1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you? 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: From how Stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline, and today, since 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: we are talking about air brushing, I gotta admit I 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: have a subscription to to Lady Meg's as they're referred 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: to on the Internet's Glamour and Harper's Bizarre and Harper's 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Bazaar isn't quite Uh, I don't know. It's it's it's 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: not quite as air brush friendly as Glamour is. And 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: I would be lying if I said I have not 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: flipped through and made a game out of looking for 12 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: obvious air brushes in um like on cover shots or 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: in ad tise mints. Right. Yeah, there comes a point 14 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: when you start looking at ads thinking, you know, you 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: you might think, gosh, they don't have any pores, and 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: then you realize they don't have any pores. Uh, they 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: start to look like paintings. Oh and especially now that 18 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: the swimsuits season is coming upon us, all of those 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: advertisements for a swimwear with just those smooth, those impossibly 20 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: smooth buttocks is what's the plural of buttocks butt buttocks 21 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: buttocks e Um, Yeah, there's no We've talked about cellulite 22 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: before on the podcast, and the takeaway from that is 23 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: that everyone has it, unless you are an air brushed 24 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: model or someone with cellulite free jeans, which is really rare. 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: And uh, there's a lot of silly lite free celebrities. 26 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: In this Jezebel slide show that we looked at, they 27 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: they showed some of the the worst. They might not 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: have cellulite, but they didn't have waste or arms or 29 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: sometimes legs either. And I feel like we have to 30 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: give some credit to Jezebel as one of the first big, 31 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: at least online whistleblowers of um air brushing and green 32 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: these unrealistic portraits of women, whether maybe models or celebrities. Yeah, 33 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: but unrealistic to some people, uh, point of admiration and 34 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: pride for others. According to the editors itself, they said 35 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: that the cover that they posted of Kelly Clarkson a 36 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: while ago all air brushed and thin, down from what 37 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: she naturally looks like. They said, it's not as in 38 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: a news photograph journalism. It is, however, meant to inspire 39 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: women to be their best? What what? But so by 40 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: slimming someone down to what she doesn't look like, we 41 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: should idealize the idealized version of someone else. Just blew 42 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: my mind. No. Um, there's also that great Newsweek cover 43 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: of Martha Stewart. Um, I wish I knew exactly what 44 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: year was from, but it was I want to say 45 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: it was jail. She was okay, it was while she 46 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: was doing some time and they pasted her head on 47 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: a model's body. And Martha Stewart is not She doesn't 48 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: need a model's body, you know, to sub for her own, 49 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: like already fit enough body, right. Well, they said it 50 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: was a photo illustration because they couldn't get a hold 51 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: of her body because that body was in jail. So 52 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: they were like, we're just gonna take a photo. But yeah, exactly, 53 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: why didn't they just use a picture of her that 54 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: already existed? And celebrities have also taken umbridge at being 55 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: excessively airbrushed. For instance, there was Kate Winslet speaking out 56 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: publicly against a g Q cover in which she was 57 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: spin down. Yeah, and actually, if you look at the 58 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: before and after, she looks great in the before and 59 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: she she agrees. She said that the re touching is excessive. 60 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: I do not look like that, and more importantly, I 61 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: don't desire to look like that. And she said that 62 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: by her estimation, it looked like they reduced the size 63 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: of her thighs by a third. But of course we 64 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: also have to mention the most egregious example of extreme 65 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: air brushing from an October two thousand nine Ralph Lauren 66 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: ad featuring model of Philippa Hamilton's, who was already very 67 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: model esque, very spelt, and her waist they some I 68 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: don't know what the graphic designer was doing, and also 69 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: the person who signed off on this advertisement who because 70 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: it just it looks almost grotesque, almost snapper in half. Yeah, 71 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: it almost. Her waist was trimmed down so much it 72 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: looked incredibly unnatural and almost painful. Like when you see that, 73 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: you you don't think, oh, look at those nice Ralph 74 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: Lauren clothes. I would like to look like that. You think, oh, 75 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: oh no, her waist exactly, poor girl, what happened to her? 76 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is not just limited to to mod 77 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: earn day celebrities and some models. Even Audrey Hepburn wasn't 78 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: immune to this and in a book released for the 79 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary Breakfast at Tiffany's last year that included a 80 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: photo a promotional photo over and it had before and aftershots. 81 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: She looks gorgeous in both photos, but the before photo 82 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: had the little grease pencil markings of where to to 83 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: do some air brushing snooth around a little bit. This 84 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: is before even before the days a photoshop, because they 85 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: had to really want to do it, I know, and 86 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: she looks she looks great. And we also have to 87 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: point out to before we go any further that this 88 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: issue of air brushing is not just about women's bodies. Um. 89 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: Male models are also subject to this as well. I mean, 90 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: think of pick up a cover of of Men's Fitness 91 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: and you probably will see some very air brush. You 92 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: could abdominals, you could store things in some of those 93 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: ab crevices, right, Um, and there was I believe Brad 94 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: Pitt came out he was going to be on the 95 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: cover of W magazine and explicitly stated beforehand that he 96 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: did not want to be airbrushed at all, and even 97 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: requested that Chuck Close photograph him because Close is known 98 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: for his extremely realistic um photography that that shows off 99 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: all of your quote unquote blemishes in a very interesting 100 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: and almost even more attractive way. And it's not just 101 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: about body measurements, but it's also about skin tone too. 102 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: There have been controversies over loreale Um lightning, allegedly lightning 103 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Beyonce's skin tone and certain advertisements. Some people said that 104 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: it was an issue of the lighting, but they just 105 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: used really bright lighting to show how shiny your hair is, 106 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: or you just made her look pale. So this clearly 107 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: isn't just a reflection of a thin ideal, but it's 108 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: this white, thin ideal. Um. But before we get into 109 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: this issue of whether or not it is creating, you know, 110 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: negative body images, um, creating these idealized standards that we 111 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: will never be able to live up to, we had 112 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: to recognize that photo manipulation is by no means a 113 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: new thing and has been happening ever since the advent 114 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: of photography. Yeah uh. Dartmouth College professor Haney for Reid 115 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: pointed out on the Smithsonian website that Lincoln Lincoln. So 116 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: first we have Audrey Hepburn and now Lincoln. What is 117 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: the world coming to? But Lincoln's head was plopped onto 118 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: the body of John Calhoun, which is kind of ironic 119 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: considering he was a Southern pro slavery politician and back 120 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: around the same era, Civil War photographer Matthew Brady also 121 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: doctored photos to create a more dramatic scene, and he 122 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: wasn't the only one. Stalin, Mao and Castro are just 123 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: a few of the leaders who have had their political 124 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: enemies airbrushed out of photos. I wonder if they were 125 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: airbrushed out of life as well. Probably, um yeah, just 126 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: as an example of some of the historical photo manipulation 127 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: that is going because it seems like this affected photo 128 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: manipulation affected men, unlike how it seems to be more 129 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: of this women's issue today, probably because uh, you know, 130 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: men were the the ones being photographed from their seats 131 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: of power. For instance, in nineteen o two, there's this 132 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: photograph of Ulyssus Grant on a horse in front of 133 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: as I'm I'm sitting sitting here pretending to uh to 134 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: have my my hands on the reins of a horse, 135 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: and he's sitting in front of an encampment. But indeed, no, no, no, 136 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: that never actually happened because it was actually three photos 137 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: spliced together. It was a different general's body. Grant's head 138 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: came from a completely different photo of him leaning against 139 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: a tree, and then the background of the encampment was 140 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: from yet a third photograph, and it does look kind 141 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: of I don't I don't think this guy did a 142 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: great job. I mean, it kind of looks like a weird, 143 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: weird tidy. Grants had on a robust body standing in 144 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: front of a background. But it was nineteen o two. Yeah, okay, okay, 145 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 1: I'll cut them a little slack for their early manipulation. 146 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: And then there's also the controversy over the Pulitzer Prize 147 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: winning photo of that was taken at Kent State of 148 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: a student leaning over one of the other students who 149 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: had been shot and killed by National guardsman Um and 150 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: Life magazine editors decided to airbrush out a poll that 151 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: was behind the girl's head in the background, And yes 152 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: it does, and the original does look like there's a 153 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: poll sticking out of her head. But the original photographer, 154 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember what his name is, but he was 155 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: insensed that Life magazine would do that because it's still 156 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: even though it's you say, it's just a poll, but 157 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: is just a pull the slippery slope down to Philippa 158 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Hamilton's Ralph Lauren models impossibly tiny waste exactly, and it's 159 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: that slippery slope that authorities are fighting against, particularly advertising, 160 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: the advertising standards authority in the UK. This is coming 161 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: from ad Age and in July, uh the authority in 162 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: the UK band to Loreal magazine ads. So so not 163 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: we're not talking anymore about the same thing with the 164 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: history and the horses and the encampments. Now we're into uh, 165 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: lying about the effects of or oh I'm sorry, exaggerating 166 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the effects of makeup. Right there was The two ads 167 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: in question feature Julie Roberts for Landcombe and Christy Turlington 168 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: from Mabelin. Now Ms Roberts and Miss Turlington both goalgeous 169 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: women who need no air brushing. Um. But if you 170 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: if you look at the ads, they have again the 171 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: poor less skin dewey, yes, very very dewey, and they 172 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: were banned in the UK for exaggeration and for being misleading, 173 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: basically saying, hey a Landcombe and Mabelin, there is no 174 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: way on earth that the makeup products that these two 175 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: women are advertising actually can remove even the mere sight 176 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: of a pork can make your skin look that completely perfect, 177 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: you're misleading consumers, right, And as a rule that Loriale 178 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: provided insufficient evidence that it had not overly airbrushed the images. 179 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: They said that on the basis of the evidence we received, 180 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: we could not conclude that the ad image accurately illustrated 181 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: what the effect of the product could achieve. So they 182 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: are making an effort to protect consumers and try to 183 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: maybe raise awareness and media literacy. Right. It's not necessarily 184 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: the issue of the negative body image standards saying, you know, 185 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: Julia Roberts face shouldn't be in a magazine because she's 186 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: just too darn pretty. It's more an issue of what 187 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: they're saying about or trying to lead us to believe 188 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: about a product. And then on February one, two thousand twelve, 189 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: the A s A took action again banning a Loreal 190 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: ad featuring Rachel white Um and she is hawking a 191 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: product for anti aging cream. And if you look at 192 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: the ad, I my impression of it was, what a 193 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: beautiful watercolor. It's because she's so it's like she is 194 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: formed out of fine fluff. I mean, you can't even 195 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: see there are no wrinkles, no pores, no nothing. It's 196 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: like she doesn't even cast a shadow. And again, Rachel Wife, 197 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: another beautiful, non airbrush needed, non airbrush needed. That's that's 198 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: poor grammar, but you guys get what I mean. She's 199 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: so upset that she's throwing around negative she then I 200 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: think it was on either Slate or Salon dot com 201 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: that had a side by side photo of the airbrushed ad, 202 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: which was lovely and watercolor esque, and then a picture 203 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: a close up picture of her from a red carpet 204 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: and still lovely and also very calming to my soul 205 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: to see that if you look closely, she does have 206 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: pores and slight crow's feet. Yeah, a little bit of 207 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: adult acne. T tod just like us, we are covered 208 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: found great um well. In response to the banning of 209 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: this Rachel Wife, ad Lourel said they didn't believe that 210 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: the ad exaggerates the effect that can be achieved using 211 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: this product, to which I say, are you kidding me? 212 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: But maybe it's something that we should expect by now 213 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: that okay, think about think about all of those mascara advertisements. 214 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean there's if you I love looking at those 215 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: as I'm flipping through my Glamour and my Harper's bizarre. 216 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: The mascara advertisements are my most favorite because I will 217 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: stare at those just the individual hairs that were obviously 218 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: superimposed onto them. There is no way that you that 219 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: any mascara product can separate each each individual some hair. 220 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Some of these companies would beg to differ or if 221 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: there is someone because I need to get my hands 222 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: on it. Um. But these a s A rulings against 223 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: advertisements are led by MP Joe Swinson in the UK. 224 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: She's a co founder of the Campaign for Body Confidence 225 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: and a former marketing manager and she has been fighting 226 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: against unrealistic images of women in advertising and she's usually 227 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: at the helm of these anti makeup ad campaigns. Yes, 228 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: and her opinion is shared by the American Medical Association, 229 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: which in June adopted a policy to encourage advertising associations 230 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: to develop guidelines to discourage photo alterations that could promote 231 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: unrealistic expectations of appropriate body image. So now we're getting 232 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: we've gotten past the history where photos are being manipulated 233 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: for leaders purposes whatever to achieve some sort of end, 234 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: and then it was to just make women's skin look good. 235 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: And now we're getting into concerns about how this photoshopping 236 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: air brushing stuff can affect people children teenagers, right, because 237 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: the as A ruling saying hey pull those Loreal or 238 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,359 Speaker 1: land coom ads are all about um advertising and consumer 239 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: habits and really just hitting the your wallets. But the 240 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: A m A coming out against photoshopping has more to 241 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: do with what is what it's doing to our brains. 242 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: But I will say that their statement was kind of 243 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: vague in their rationale fighting a quote large body of literature, 244 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: no specific studies UM that link exposure to media propagated 245 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: images of unrealistic body image to eating disorders and other 246 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: child and adolescent health problems, and that that correlation makes sense. 247 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: There are all of these corellary relationships between media exposure, 248 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: seeing excessively thin models or excessively air brushed models, and 249 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: then internalizing those images as to what you should then 250 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: see in the mirror. But in terms of establishing a 251 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: causational relationship between air brushing and eating disorders, we get 252 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: into some sketchier areas, right. Elizabeth pearl Over at Huffington's 253 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: Post followed this A m A rolling up by saying 254 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: that photoshop isn't the issue, It's part of a much 255 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: larger issue about women and the media and impressions that 256 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: we give to our kids. Specifically, she says that the 257 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: pervasive use of image alteration software is only one small 258 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: piece of the strong sexist undercurrent that continues to dehumanize 259 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,239 Speaker 1: women as objects in the vast majority of these images. 260 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: And she said that really the issues that women and 261 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: men are still under pressure to be thin enough to 262 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: even be on the cover, right, is it so much 263 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: about the air brushing that's happening or the standard those 264 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: men and women are being airbrushed to, whether that's lightning 265 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: of the skin, whether that's um racing crow's feet, or 266 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: minimizing waste or carving out you know, trenches of six 267 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: packs in men's in men's waste, um and and going 268 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: along those same lines. Eating disorder specialists Carrie Arnold was 269 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: quoted by psychologists Vivian diller Um kind of also debunking 270 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: this idea of air brushing being the root of all evil. 271 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: Um she was saying that we don't think ads for 272 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: disinfectants somehow promote O c D, and so we also 273 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: don't think that those bluetooth headsets promote schizophrenia because it 274 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: looks like you're talking to yourself. It does. I am 275 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: fooled all the time by people with headsets. I'm sorry, 276 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: what were you saying? Oh, I just wear a Bluetooth headset, 277 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: so it's more acceptable when I am talking to myself. 278 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: A right, Well, she says that Arnold says that condemning 279 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: photoshop may be good for a good story. It might 280 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: raise controversy. We're talking about it, but she questions its validity, 281 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: the validity of the connection between these eating disorders, body 282 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: image and air brushing. Well, I think it might be 283 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: an easy scapegoat to say, oh, it's the knowledgey these days, 284 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: this new fangled thing. But but no, it's been going 285 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: on for a really long time. Think about that that 286 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: Audrey Hepburn photo. But I mean, so these people are 287 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: sort of raising questions, they're being skeptical about it. But 288 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: I still think it's an important point to bring up. Absolutely, 289 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: um that you know, it's airbrushing is not the most 290 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: evil thing. Obviously, we need to work on media portrayal 291 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: of women and men and men, but yeah, just airbrushing 292 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: is part of that. To me, it's more an issue 293 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: of media savvy, which is one reason why Haney f reed, 294 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: who you mentioned earlier. UM has developed away or well, 295 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: I should say he's developed a mathematical model to measure 296 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: the amount of photo shopping done on an image. Yeah. 297 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Each he presented these some photos to some people, and 298 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: each altered photograph was scored between one and five, with 299 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: five for heavy retouching. And the the human volunteer is 300 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: that they put it. UH scored photos from one to five, 301 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: and they found a close correlation between the people's assumption 302 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: of how much something had been airbrushed and the actual 303 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: airbrushing done. So it seems like people are more savvy 304 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: than we give them credit for. UM. But he is 305 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: saying that there should be a rating next to a 306 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: photo according to his mathematical model. That way you could 307 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: automatically know that a photo has been retouched. For instance, UM. 308 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: A lot of news magazines will clarify, they'll footnote if 309 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: UM an image is a photo illustration like the Newsweek 310 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: cover of Martha Stewart with Martha Stewart's head on someone 311 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: else's body, that is a photo illustration. It is a 312 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: compositive something else that and they want to clarify that 313 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that they aren't misleading readers into altering 314 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: their their sense of reality. And so for read to 315 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: saying that you can use this kind of one to 316 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: five rating skill scale to do the same thing, and 317 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: I think that could be pretty helpful, right, And for 318 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: Red is not the only one who wants disclaimers alongside photos. 319 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: The founders of off Our Chests recently launched a Self 320 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: Esteem Act campaign to pass a bill that would regulate 321 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: the digital retouching of models and magazines and advertisements, and 322 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: so they want disclaimers alongside photos too. So a lot 323 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: of people want it to be very clear that these 324 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: photos are airbrush. So it sounds like that Self Esteem 325 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: at campaign would be the the US sort of companion 326 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: to those u k s advertising standards that have become 327 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: more strict. I mean, I don't know that there would 328 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: ever come a point that that the government would legislate 329 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: how much a model's body can be airbrushed on the 330 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: cover of Glamour. I think that it's easier to um 331 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: to tie it into advertising standards. Mean, if she's sitting 332 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: there holding a bottle of shampoo, then they might be 333 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: able to institute something. But I don't think airbrushing is 334 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: going anywhere anytime soon, which is why common sense media 335 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: dot org Um really encourages parents to make sure the 336 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: kids know that celebrities have stylists and hairdressers and personal trainers. 337 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: And you know what, it's not just the kids, it's 338 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: you know. I have to remind myself of that when 339 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: I'm flipping through Glamour, especially if I might be feeling 340 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: dumpier one day and I'm flipping through and I see 341 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: those individually separated eyelashes and the cellulite less buttocks. Is 342 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: so I haven't figure I gotta figure out the plural 343 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: to buttocks. Bottoms, bottoms, all those all those smooth bottoms, 344 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: and and I have to remind myself that, you know 345 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: what this is. This is a product of technology. This 346 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: is a product of it being someone's job to look fantastic. 347 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: It's well, it's their job to look fantastic. It is 348 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: someone else's job to sell the product to us. You know. 349 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: I look at my pores sometimes, going back to pores, 350 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, I have buckets on 351 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: my face. And then I look back and I'm like, oh, no, 352 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: you look like a normal person. Your pores aren't huge. Self, 353 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Don't be taken in by those 354 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: altered images and I can't see your pores at all. Thanks. 355 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: And it's not just because I'm I'm not that good 356 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: with sight seeing, but I do think too, by the 357 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: same token that kids are more knowledgeable of this, then 358 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: we might give them credit for There was a forum 359 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: on The New York Times asking kids whether or not 360 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: air brushed images of models affected them, like if they 361 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: saw an image of a model, if it made them, 362 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: if they internalized that and it made them feel bad 363 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: about their bodies, and if you screw I mean granted, 364 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: I mean you have to think about the kind of 365 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: self selected population of kids who are going on. They're 366 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: probably already pretty stute if they're commenting on the New 367 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: York Times when they're thirteen years old. Um. But by 368 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: and large, scrolling through the two plus comments, a lot 369 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: of them said, without prompting, well, we know that this 370 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: is just how they're supposed to look. They know what 371 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: air brushing is. They have photoshop there on their laptops exactly. 372 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: They yes, they know, and they are aware. And that's excellent. 373 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: I think those are great strides that have been made. 374 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: But not to ham her home anything. Beat me dead 375 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: horses here, but if eat dead horse. I'm gonna it's 376 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: it is. It's still part of that larger cultural shift 377 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: that needs to happen. We need, you know, part of 378 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: that effort to get people with more real bodies just 379 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: depicted in ads and whatnot. Right, Um, but then we 380 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: have to we have to play devil's advocate for just 381 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: a second, because yes, there is some devil's advocacy to this, 382 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: and it's the kind of contrived notion that air brushing 383 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: is a way to combat ages. M Right, wait for it. 384 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: Eric comes former model Tara Moss in the Sydney Morning Herald. 385 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: She was part of a big there was like a 386 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: big giant clump of opinions about air brushing, and she 387 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: said that the rise of air brushing has given us 388 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: glossier images, but it has its virtues. She says that 389 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: few forty something models and celebrities were on magazine covers 390 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: before this huge rise in uh, you know, photoshopping little 391 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: blemishes and whatnot out. So basically she's saying that it 392 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: is keeping a select group of attractive forty some models 393 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: and and I know, like apparently we wouldn't pay attention 394 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: to Meryl Streep anymore if we didn't have airbrushing. But 395 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: I'm reading this because Tarra Moss. Doesn't that just feed 396 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: this whole the whole botox culture of saying, hey, oh wow, 397 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: look at that model. She looks incredible and she's forty five. 398 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: Looks like I need some lip filler. Well, you know, 399 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: I was talking. I was actually talking with Kristen about 400 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: this the other day. There was some magazine article several 401 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: years ago. I feel like it was in one of 402 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: my mother's magazines, and it featured Jamie Lee Curtis, but 403 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: she was adamant that she would not be airbrushed. I 404 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know about the cover, but inside 405 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: the magazine she had a photo had taken of her 406 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: in like shorts and a sports bra, letting it all 407 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: hang out. She no makeup, obviously, no shirt, so you 408 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: could see a little bit of celebrity muffin top. And 409 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: I thought that was a pretty good move. Yeah, one 410 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: of my one of my favorite kind of attempts by 411 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: a magazine to show the natural, natural beauty. Um was 412 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: it was? I guess. In two thousand eleven, there was 413 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: a Harper's Bizarre cover of Lady Gaga and the big 414 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: headline was Gaga no makeup, but she clearly had on makeup, 415 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: but it was just makeup to make it look like 416 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: she didn't have makeup. I'm sure Gagata took all of 417 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: her makeup off, she'd be a lovely gal nonetheless. Um, 418 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: but I just think it's funny how how magazines are 419 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: clearly cognizant of this air brushing issue, but they still 420 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: try to get around it by embracing natural beauty, but 421 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: naturally enhanced with very good lighting and can feeler. And 422 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is to Caroline that a 423 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: lot of women are not averse to personal touch ups 424 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: and air brushing. That is certainly true. Uh. There was 425 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: a Glamour poll of a thousand women. Forty one percent 426 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: of women ages eighteen to twenty four said they had 427 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: retouched their own photos. Of women aged thirty to thirty 428 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: four said they've done so. And this ranges, you know, 429 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: from Facebook photos to online dating shots too, you know whatever. 430 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: Sixty percent said it's okay to tweak personal photos. Of 431 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: the women who actually did it remove skin imperfections. A 432 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: few fewer women a ray stray hairs, and thirty four 433 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: percent white and teeth, So apparently skin is way more 434 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: important than hair. That's what I'm getting from this. Well. 435 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: I wondered too, though, if the Glamour poll results are 436 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: also the product of that self selection like I was 437 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: talking about with the the New York Times, because you 438 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: you might be able to make the argument that maybe 439 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: these women are more open to air brushing because they 440 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: are regular Glamour readers. Comes full circle, right, and they 441 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: want you know, they they expect to look or try 442 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: aspire to look as great as their favorite airbrush celebrities. 443 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: Whether we know it's like we know it in our 444 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: head that that's not exactly what um what is it 445 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: Star magazine that has the segment on like Stars without makeup? Uh, 446 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, we we know that that is more of 447 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: the reality. But it's the images that we're fed that 448 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: are are so heavily were touched in our lovely to 449 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: look at that we might internalize more than we think. Yeah, 450 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: and there are cameras. Cameras can do it. You don't 451 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: even have to get the software anymore. There are cameras 452 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: that are sold now with airbrushing capabilities, so you can 453 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: you can get rid of your red eye and white 454 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: and your teeth, but you can also apply makeup, which 455 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: is so strange, and I don't know how people come 456 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: out of that and not looking like cartoons. I mean, 457 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: the hipstomatic filter on my iPhone is pretty flattering for 458 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: your inflection. I'm not gonna lie, So I think it's 459 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: time now to turn this over to the listeners. Is 460 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: air brushing creating unrealistic beauty standards or is this just 461 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: another byproduct of the unrealistic beauty standards that we have 462 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: established long ago and have only perpetuated through time. Yeah, 463 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: how A where are you of the air brushing that 464 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: goes into these magazines and does it bother you? Does 465 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: it still sort of make you feel like your poor 466 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: should be smaller or guys that your abdominals should be 467 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: much much more defined and carved out like cubbyholes. Yes, 468 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: and younger listeners out there too. I especially want to 469 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: hear from you all to know whether or not when 470 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: you see those images of of models, whether you internalize 471 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: it or if something clicks in your head saying hey, 472 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, I know what that is. It's air brushing, 473 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: and you go about your day. All these things we 474 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: would like to know. Mom. Stuff at Discovery dot Calm 475 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: is where you can send your letters and You can 476 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: always hit us up on Facebook and Twitter as well 477 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: at Mom's Stuff podcast, and we got a couple of 478 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: emails here to share in the meantime. Yeah, this one's 479 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: from Alan in response to our foster care podcast. Uh 480 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: years ago, I had a neighbor friend, single train wreck 481 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: of a mom doing an abysmal job raising a darling 482 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: little girl who deserved as most children, so much more 483 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: more than once babysitters or nanny's called child Protective Services. 484 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: I was one of the key people besides the mom 485 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: that they interviewed. I had to make a choice whether 486 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: to let this girl go into foster care or lie 487 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: to the social workers in order to keep her out. 488 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: I decided that if I helped raise this little girl 489 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: and be a positive influence as I could, even with 490 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: the negative influences in her home, it would still be 491 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: better to at least have a mom and one home 492 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: rather than the foster care system. My responsibilities raising this 493 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: girl grew to the point in which her mom was 494 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: away for a time and I was her legal guardian 495 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: when her mom was away at with the opportunity to 496 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: move her upstate to a rural community. She is now 497 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: a young teenager doing all the things that teenage girls do. 498 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: She plays soccer, basketball, and softball, does well enough in school, 499 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: and loves fashion and boys. Her mom has since moved nearby, 500 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: so while I take most of the responsibility of raising 501 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: this young lady, she is still able to spend time 502 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: as she wishes with her biological mother. Well, I got 503 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: an email here from Adrian and this is in response 504 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: to our episode about whether or not in doctors are 505 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: listening to us, and she has had her own sort 506 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: of medical runarounds and she's now in school for medical sociology. 507 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: And she had a list of things to share with 508 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: us that are helpful for for going into the doctor. 509 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: Things to do before you see the doc to make 510 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: a list of all your symptoms, even if they seem 511 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: small and unrelated. This way you will not get flustered 512 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: and forget when the doctor seems to be breezing past 513 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: you during the quick visit. Keep a diary of your 514 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: systems and note every day that you experience something. And 515 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: if you're having g I systems, you may even want 516 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: to keep a diary of food at intake. If you're 517 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 1: on a lot of medication, always keeping up to date 518 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: date list of what you were on. Once you receive 519 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: a diagnosis, look for support groups on Facebook. I've learned 520 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: more about having, living and coping with chronic pancreaitis through 521 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: support groups on Facebook than I ever have from any doctors. Five. 522 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: Ask for copies of tests and medical records. Six. If 523 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: you don't like one doctor's opinion, seek the advice of 524 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: another doctor. And finally, don't be afraid to ask questions 525 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: or call the nurse back later. I'm sure we have 526 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: all at the doctor's office and immediately afterward thought of 527 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: something that you missed before. 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