Speaker 1: Lindsay, I am so honored that you're coming on my
Speaker 1: podcast here today. You the way you've approached your career
Speaker 1: and the way you've been so innovative in creating new
Speaker 1: ideas in your space has been so inspiring for me.
Speaker 1: And the way you reimagine things. I just want to
Speaker 1: start off with, how did you first fall in love
Speaker 1: with the violin? Well, thank you first of all, thank
Speaker 1: you for having me, and thanks for your very kind words. Um,
Speaker 1: I fell in love with the violin when I was
Speaker 1: really little. My parents loved classical music and they were
Speaker 1: always playing, you know, these old classical records in our home,
Speaker 1: and so that's just what I fell in love with.
Speaker 1: I was exposed to it, it's what I knew, and
Speaker 1: I really wanted violin lessons when I was six, and
Speaker 1: so you have those violin lessons. And was there ever
Speaker 1: a time where you stopped playing violin or has it
Speaker 1: just always been something that's been an outlet for you.
Speaker 1: It's always been an outlet. There were times, like in
Speaker 1: high school or in my teen years, when I like
Speaker 1: kind of started to fall out of love with it
Speaker 1: a little bit here and there and went through lulls,
Speaker 1: but I never quit. You know, it's always been a
Speaker 1: part of my life. I love that. So I have
Speaker 1: to ask, how many violence do you own? I've got
Speaker 1: a whole closet full of them. It's bad, um, but
Speaker 1: I probably have like seventeen at this point. Bad or
Speaker 1: amazing one or the other. I don't know. You know,
Speaker 1: that's a really good point. They're covered in sparkles and
Speaker 1: lace and all kinds of fun things, so it's amazing you.
Speaker 1: So you're telling me you have bedazzled violence. I do.
Speaker 1: I have some really pretty ones that I get to
Speaker 1: tour with, and like, I just got a new one
Speaker 1: that I'm really excited to decorate and figure out how
Speaker 1: I want to make it feel Christmas Eve for this
Speaker 1: tour because I decorate them myself. So I'm like, what
Speaker 1: am I gonna do? What craft d I y queen?
Speaker 1: We love that, we love it? So do you glue
Speaker 1: the rhinestones on yourself? When I get them bedazzled. I've
Speaker 1: actually sent them to like professional bedazzlers, because as we
Speaker 1: know in l A, that's the thing you have to
Speaker 1: So yeah, I wanted the real people to do the
Speaker 1: real job. But if it's like something more unique, like
Speaker 1: I just made one for a music video where there's
Speaker 1: like little skeleton bones and all this stuff on the
Speaker 1: violin and I made I made that myself because that
Speaker 1: was like a fun craft night. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put on a rom com and I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: my skeleton violin. What rom com? Oh? I think I
Speaker 1: watched um Maid of Honor? How was it? Oh, it's
Speaker 1: so cute if you haven't seen it. I'm always for
Speaker 1: a good rom com and a good crafty project. Yes,
Speaker 1: your girlf my own heart. We need to get together
Speaker 1: sometime and just craft and calm it up those nights.
Speaker 1: A good craft night with a good rom com. It's ideal.
Speaker 1: It is. I'm in college and I'm like, that's my
Speaker 1: ideal night. Just be with the friends, do a face
Speaker 1: mask crafting. Yes, what better way to live life? Love it.
Speaker 1: I know you were on America's Got Talent, which I
Speaker 1: think is so in such an interesting part of your
Speaker 1: story because though you didn't win it and you got eliminated,
Speaker 1: you kept going. It's always hard when you have a
Speaker 1: setback to keep pursuing what made you keep going. After
Speaker 1: you're on TV and then millions of people watch you
Speaker 1: get voted off because I can't imagine going through something
Speaker 1: like that. Yes, you know, it wasn't only getting voted off.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's just so you didn't make it
Speaker 1: to the next round. It was so humiliating, Like I
Speaker 1: got told just the harshest critique I've ever received, like
Speaker 1: in front of millions of people. I was told that
Speaker 1: I sounded like rats being strangled and that you know,
Speaker 1: it just didn't have it. It took and it was
Speaker 1: so embarrassing. Um. And you know, from that experience though afterwards,
Speaker 1: I remember I did think to myself, I don't think
Speaker 1: I could ever get on the stage again like this.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is for me. Um. But then
Speaker 1: there was this like a little inner voice that whether
Speaker 1: you call it your spirit, your gut, your instincts, whatever
Speaker 1: the universe, I think it's a I think it's like
Speaker 1: my spirit and God like telling me that like there's more,
Speaker 1: there is more for you, don't give up. It just
Speaker 1: wasn't right then, and so I kind of changed the
Speaker 1: wording of what they said. Rather than not good enough,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna just add,
Speaker 1: you're not good enough yet because my performance really wasn't great,
Speaker 1: like if I'm going to be honest, like I kind
Speaker 1: of earned the critique I got. But no one moment
Speaker 1: of your life should ever define you. No one performance
Speaker 1: should ever define how you're going to perform for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. Yeah, it wasn't my best performance.
Speaker 1: I was so nervous and I was new at this craft.
Speaker 1: But I put in the time and I realized I
Speaker 1: just wasn't good enough yet. And then when I got
Speaker 1: back on a stage, like, you know, a year and
Speaker 1: a half later for my first show, like my first show, Um,
Speaker 1: I was ready. Then I had put in the time
Speaker 1: and it was a different story at that point. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think there's that experience taught me so
Speaker 1: much about grit getting up after you fall, and that
Speaker 1: sometimes you know it just isn't the right time or place,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean it that forever is not the
Speaker 1: right time or place. Absolutely, And I've seen so many
Speaker 1: of your interviews and I love the way you you
Speaker 1: view things and the positive spin you take on it,
Speaker 1: because I feel like the way we talk to ourselves
Speaker 1: is so important, and it's the energy that we give
Speaker 1: out and it's also the energy that we received, and
Speaker 1: it's something that I'm definitely I struggle a lot with
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out the whole self love journey.
Speaker 1: It is a process. And I was wondering, what it's
Speaker 1: hard to continue sometimes and to keep going with the
Speaker 1: positive talk when you're not feeling so positive. So what
Speaker 1: advice do you have for you know, continuing with gratitude
Speaker 1: and just keeping that those good vibes around yourself, you know?
Speaker 1: I think that, Um, when it comes to like positive
Speaker 1: self talk and all of that, it's so much more
Speaker 1: about the overall journey than the moment. Like sometimes you're
Speaker 1: not gonna win in the moment, but it's about learning
Speaker 1: to train your mind for the overall journey. And um,
Speaker 1: when I was in college, actually I was, I was
Speaker 1: in a place where I hated myself and I was
Speaker 1: so negative and I was I was then rexic, I
Speaker 1: was depressed. I truly hated myself, and I finally woke
Speaker 1: up one day to realizing I used to not be
Speaker 1: like this. I'm sick of hating myself and I deserve
Speaker 1: everybody deserves better than this, And um, I didn't win
Speaker 1: every moment from there on out. It's really hard to
Speaker 1: like force that positive self talk in your head. It's
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to believe it when you say it
Speaker 1: when you're in a state like that. But it was
Speaker 1: through slowly training myself and saying the positive things over
Speaker 1: and over and over again, even though I didn't believe them,
Speaker 1: looking in the mirror at my eyes and saying like,
Speaker 1: I love you, and you are strong, you are smart,
Speaker 1: you are you are you know all the things that
Speaker 1: we want to believe about ourselves that I didn't believe.
Speaker 1: But after you say it enough, it's like you're rewiring
Speaker 1: your brain. After you write in a gratitude journal enough,
Speaker 1: Like if you do that every night, you are rewiring
Speaker 1: and strengthening neuropathways in your mind that you may not
Speaker 1: feel like it's winning in the moment because you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't believe this as I say it or as
Speaker 1: I write it. But the more you do it, the
Speaker 1: more those become, the stronger neural pathways than the negative ones.
Speaker 1: Just like working out muscles um and your mind will
Speaker 1: naturally start to use those pathways. I mean, it's an actual,
Speaker 1: like biological there's a science behind it. It's a science
Speaker 1: and it's not just like, oh, well, believe in yourself
Speaker 1: and you'll feel better. It's like, no, you're actually creating
Speaker 1: you know, pathways and biology and science and so anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in even if you don't think
Speaker 1: you're winning the moment, you're creating your future and it
Speaker 1: will change your life and it changed mind. I that
Speaker 1: is so important to hear because I also feel like
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in college listen, listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast, and college is just it's a it's
Speaker 1: a mess up. Social experiment is what I've had to
Speaker 1: realize about being there from high school in a random
Speaker 1: place and you're like socialized and see what happens, and
Speaker 1: it really and I think social media exascerbates it. And
Speaker 1: you know, now we have you know, always comparing yourself
Speaker 1: and there's body image issues that you know, it's so
Speaker 1: hard to just be nowadays, you know and just get through.
Speaker 1: And I know you're you're so active on social media.
Speaker 1: Have you found that balance where you know you can
Speaker 1: still prioritize your mental health and keep that the priority
Speaker 1: while still being on an app where you know you
Speaker 1: get can you can compare yourself a lot too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's always going to be a battle. It's
Speaker 1: just a reality that we have to live with, and
Speaker 1: we're almost like in the middle of the science experiment
Speaker 1: because it's also new still, you know, and everybody and
Speaker 1: it's always changing, and so it's like hard to figure
Speaker 1: out constantly what the best balances, um But I find
Speaker 1: that it's healthy to figure out your own limitations. Like
Speaker 1: there are certain things that I thought, I, you know,
Speaker 1: that I would like maybe follow on social media, and
Speaker 1: then you realize that doesn't make me feel good. You know,
Speaker 1: when I see this person's post nothing against them, but
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they did anything wrong. It's just
Speaker 1: like when I see the kind of content they're posting,
Speaker 1: it's not making me feel good. And it could be
Speaker 1: because I'm not in a good place and nothing about them,
Speaker 1: but it's like those are the posts that for now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mute, you know, like really curating your feed
Speaker 1: because it's inevitable we're all going to be on these feeds.
Speaker 1: But like learning to set boundaries for yourself. Learning like
Speaker 1: if you have to put a timer that allows you
Speaker 1: to only look at the app for a certain amount
Speaker 1: of time, if you need that, do it, you know,
Speaker 1: learning to create boundaries in a world where there are
Speaker 1: no boundaries anymore. I think is so so important, and
Speaker 1: every once in a while take a little bit of
Speaker 1: a like hiatus from social media where I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: only going to get on to post and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna use it as a um consumer for a week,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just we're gonna get on and post,
Speaker 1: not look at anything or even have someone else, like
Speaker 1: have my assistant post it for me. Like, I think
Speaker 1: it's really healthy sometimes to almost do like a bit
Speaker 1: of a fast from it, to like detox, because it
Speaker 1: is a like it is a bit of a toxin
Speaker 1: to get all that in you every day. It is.
Speaker 1: And I've noticed I turned my notifications off from Instagram
Speaker 1: and all that, and that has helped tremendously because it's
Speaker 1: not getting the ding for it anymore. So it's only
Speaker 1: when I choose to go on it, you know. It's
Speaker 1: like those little things that I've noticed really with me personally,
Speaker 1: do you have any like go to when you're not
Speaker 1: feeling your your best, like go to self care? You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this will make me feel better. Let's see what does
Speaker 1: my go to self care? UM. Lately, I've really gotten
Speaker 1: into breathwork, which is something I have you done it.
Speaker 1: I've heard so much about it from so many people,
Speaker 1: and I hear it's incredible, but I've never done it.
Speaker 1: It's really powerful, it's and it's the kind of thing
Speaker 1: again that like when I first did it the very
Speaker 1: first time, I was kind of like, all right, that
Speaker 1: was kind of relaxing, cool, Like I don't know what
Speaker 1: everybody's the big hype is. But then as I kept
Speaker 1: doing it, and now it's like a daily practice. I
Speaker 1: I do it every morning for like, oh like ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes. It's not a breaking my schedule, but
Speaker 1: I've just found it has made an immense difference in
Speaker 1: my anxiety because I am once a day like calming
Speaker 1: my nervous system. Again, it's not just this woo boo stuff.
Speaker 1: It's science, like you're actually changing the chemistry and your
Speaker 1: body when you're oxygen eating yourselves and taking this time
Speaker 1: to like reset your nervous system. It's something I do
Speaker 1: before I go on stage every night now so that
Speaker 1: those like those like adrenaline pumps that I'm getting that
Speaker 1: are so strong and sometimes cause me to be a
Speaker 1: little bit out of whack when I first step on stage.
Speaker 1: It it literally just resets everything. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: breathwork has been a huge, like maintenance practice in my
Speaker 1: life right now. But also if I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: starting to have an anxiety moment, just that reset of
Speaker 1: being able to do some of these simple like even
Speaker 1: if you know, a simple breath that I do often
Speaker 1: is where you take three breaths in and one breath out,
Speaker 1: so just like, oh fun, that's fun to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun. You do it to the beat
Speaker 1: of a song, um that's in four or four time,
Speaker 1: and it like works perfectly, and it's amazing how how
Speaker 1: much it has helped my anxiety. So that's my go
Speaker 1: to Okay, I need I have anxiety too, and O
Speaker 1: c D. So I need to get on this because
Speaker 1: I know what it's like having a nervous system out
Speaker 1: of whack. Are always in fight or flight, So I
Speaker 1: need to calm I need to calm her sometimes we
Speaker 1: all do. And I think our world is riddled with
Speaker 1: anxiety these days, you know, And how is it not?
Speaker 1: How is it not some of us worse than others.
Speaker 1: But it's like you know, anything, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've tried medication at times, that breath work is the
Speaker 1: most helpful thing I've ever done. That's so interesting because
Speaker 1: I have been really trying to figure out what works
Speaker 1: for me and you know, maintaining that and it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to continually work on it. But something I've been
Speaker 1: doing that my friend recommends is I named my anxiety um.
Speaker 1: Her name is Jojo Um, and I'm just like, Jojo,
Speaker 1: We're good, Jojo, stop it. We're so good, Jojo, you
Speaker 1: don't need to mess things up for me. And I
Speaker 1: noticed it kind of helps because I'm putting it's kind
Speaker 1: of separating in my brain, like, oh, it's not me.
Speaker 1: I love that. And I did the same thing with
Speaker 1: my eating disorder. I called it ed um perfect and
Speaker 1: I yeah, and it does. There is something really relieving
Speaker 1: about realizing that this is just a piece of you.
Speaker 1: It's not you, it's not even it's really what the
Speaker 1: world has done to you. So it's not even you,
Speaker 1: and it compartmentalizes it. And it's nice to have something
Speaker 1: to be like like ed not today. I do not
Speaker 1: believe what you're telling me about myself. You know, Jojo,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Pull it together? You know, it's
Speaker 1: little things like that, But I love, and I love
Speaker 1: being able to talk about it with people because I
Speaker 1: feel like once I started having these like open dialogues
Speaker 1: with my friends, it truly made me feel so much better, like, oh,
Speaker 1: my goodness, I'm not the only person going through it,
Speaker 1: because when you're going through it can feel so isolating. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it really can. And I think one of the best
Speaker 1: things I ever did for my recovery when I was
Speaker 1: antarexic was going to a group therapy, Terrified absolutely terrified
Speaker 1: love therapy. It was on campus, and I found out
Speaker 1: through a counselor on campus that they had the secret
Speaker 1: group that met and it was like a basement so
Speaker 1: no one would know where we were. Um, it was
Speaker 1: terrifying to go, but like one of the most powerful
Speaker 1: things was to sit in a room with other women
Speaker 1: who had never met before and share them expressed the
Speaker 1: same thoughts that I had in my head that I
Speaker 1: thought were so crazy and so isolating. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of power in just community. There really is.
Speaker 1: And you noticed when someone says I mean, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you feel that too, so do I. And it's it's
Speaker 1: taking that first step to just say something, which is
Speaker 1: often the hardest thing um. Something that I am really
Speaker 1: inspired by is I know you talked about doing ballroom
Speaker 1: dance as like a release, and I started to I
Speaker 1: signed up for a tap dance class this semester, but
Speaker 1: I've never danced before in my life, and it's with
Speaker 1: dance majors and people have taps since they were two,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm having
Speaker 1: so much fun. So I was wondering you have that
Speaker 1: same release with ballroom dancing where you kind of can't worry,
Speaker 1: you kind of have to focus on what you're doing. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think it's really important to one like have an
Speaker 1: outlet something like that where you get to you really
Speaker 1: have to, like you said, focus and it takes you
Speaker 1: out of whatever you're living in on your day to day.
Speaker 1: But also, I think there's something so great about being
Speaker 1: a consistent student in life, like the ability to try
Speaker 1: something new and realize that like, Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be kind of bad at this for a while because
Speaker 1: I'm just learning and oh my gosh, is they're teaching
Speaker 1: me this step it feels impossible. I think that is
Speaker 1: such an important feeling to consistently have as a human
Speaker 1: because as we're as we grow as adults, we just
Speaker 1: get so so comfortable being comfortable, and we get really
Speaker 1: uncomfortable being bad at things. Like kids are fine falling,
Speaker 1: They're fine if they suck at something, and they're like
Speaker 1: they're like, it's okay, I'm I'm just learning. Of course
Speaker 1: I suck, but adults aren't good at that. And so
Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, in a ballroom or I've recently
Speaker 1: started taking a trapeze class, like so you know, so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: So um odd I love it though, but I really
Speaker 1: think there's so much value in And also you have
Speaker 1: to really focus because and it does pull you out
Speaker 1: of your head because you're like, I have to focus
Speaker 1: on this or I'm gonna trip on my shoe or
Speaker 1: I'm going to fall off this areal apparatus. You know. Literally,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to live by doing one thing a
Speaker 1: day that makes me uncomfortable. Oh and it's honestly made
Speaker 1: me live more life than I ever have because I've
Speaker 1: been really putting myself out there. Can you tell me
Speaker 1: an example? Oh, of course, Um, I asked someone out
Speaker 1: for coffee, which I've never done before. Um. When and
Speaker 1: this was a little bit terrifying. But in my tap class,
Speaker 1: my teacher pointed at me and told me to do
Speaker 1: the dance routine in front of everybody. Did I want
Speaker 1: to shoot my pants a bit? Yes, but didn't make
Speaker 1: me feel uncomfortable? And absolutely did so we got everything
Speaker 1: that made us uncomfortable on the way. So it's just
Speaker 1: like little things that I do throughout the day, just
Speaker 1: like for me socially, anxiety can cause. So I've been
Speaker 1: trying to put myself in social situations. So whether that's
Speaker 1: I went to a party by myself, which I've never
Speaker 1: done before, but I actually had the best time. So
Speaker 1: it's just been it's been a lot, but it's been good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good for you. I'm going to take that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I will have the courage to do it
Speaker 1: every day. That's bold, just one thing, it could be
Speaker 1: so small. I think it's amazing. Just one Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I could but I love that. I think that's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's fun. I've been really trying to the goal for
Speaker 1: myself for this year is to try and be the
Speaker 1: best person I can be and try and you know,
Speaker 1: grow as much as I can. And I've been doing
Speaker 1: my life in three months increments where I feel like
Speaker 1: when I plan something for three months, I'm a completely
Speaker 1: different person. So it's been helpful to do it in
Speaker 1: those bits I find. Yeah, oh that's so good. I
Speaker 1: love it. I want to talk about trapeezing because I
Speaker 1: know you are going on tour and you're releasing a
Speaker 1: Christmas album, which is Can we talk about how fast
Speaker 1: the holidays came this year? Oh my gosh, I cannot
Speaker 1: believe that we're almost in spooky season. Like, yeah, do
Speaker 1: you have any Halloween costumes planned? You know, I am
Speaker 1: the kind of person I have a costume shed amazing
Speaker 1: just of like so many costumes from music videos and tours.
Speaker 1: I love costumes, so I keep them all. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: like a costume hoarder. I guess you could say, but
Speaker 1: it's a great I'm not gonna lie. I know. I
Speaker 1: always tell my friends, if you don't know what to be,
Speaker 1: come over. We'll play dress up. So, um, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna be, but we're gonna be a
Speaker 1: tour rehearsals. So I'm planning on throwing a like a
Speaker 1: Halloween party after a long day of Christmas tour rehearsals.
Speaker 1: I absolutely love that we have to take a quick break,
Speaker 1: but when we come back, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: your new album snow Waltz and the crazy stuff you're
Speaker 1: going to be doing on tour, and it has to
Speaker 1: do with track peezing. We'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 1: Your new album, snow Waltz comes out so soon. And
Speaker 1: I know you described this album as a whimsical, pixie
Speaker 1: like feeling. That's quintessentially me. Can you please expand on
Speaker 1: that because I love how that's phrased. Well, thank you. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, this is actually my second Christmas album, and
Speaker 1: my first one I really leaned into like what does
Speaker 1: Christmas iconically sound like? You know? So I had some
Speaker 1: big band songs in there, and I was trying to
Speaker 1: really lean into the traditional sound of Christmas. And this
Speaker 1: time I was like, actually, I want Christmas to come
Speaker 1: a little bit into my world. And so, um, I
Speaker 1: do feel like this album is still sounds like Christmas,
Speaker 1: but it also sounds very much like me and like whimsical.
Speaker 1: I I just cannot wait to like take it on
Speaker 1: the tour and get to share like pixie dust with
Speaker 1: people every night. So you are going to be trappeezing
Speaker 1: while playing the violin, you must be incredible at multitasking. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what I found is in order to multitask,
Speaker 1: you just have to know each skill so much that
Speaker 1: you don't have to think about them, and they become one.
Speaker 1: I guess. So I was like, learned the violin parts
Speaker 1: and then whether it's choreography or trappeezing. Um, I learned
Speaker 1: that super well, and then I learned them together slowly,
Speaker 1: and because I actually I am not a great multitasker,
Speaker 1: but if you can connect the two so they become
Speaker 1: one skill. Because if you think about it, like when
Speaker 1: I play the violin, one arm is doing something completely
Speaker 1: different than the other hand, but they become one so
Speaker 1: that they're synonymous. And so if the choreography becomes one
Speaker 1: with the playing, then I'm not multitasking anymore. My body
Speaker 1: just knows the assignment for every move, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's so awesome. So how has tell me
Speaker 1: how how has trappeezing been? What is that process been? Like?
Speaker 1: It's been so fun. It started out like, you know,
Speaker 1: super uncomfortable and like a little bit scary as you're
Speaker 1: like up in the air holding onto these ropes, and
Speaker 1: just hoping that your balance is good. But um, you
Speaker 1: know now that I'm like a little more comfortable out
Speaker 1: there and I learned how to like do certain positions
Speaker 1: where I can play and stuff. It's just so fun.
Speaker 1: I've definitely gotten the aerial bug now. And two of
Speaker 1: my dancers were like, that looks like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: We'd love to do it too, So they now go
Speaker 1: up in the air too, Like we've just all been,
Speaker 1: you know, we've been rehearsing and getting stronger, and it's
Speaker 1: there's something very empowering about it too. I've never been
Speaker 1: super strong, like in my upper body, like I could
Speaker 1: never do a pull up, and suddenly I'm I'm getting
Speaker 1: strong And so there's something that's really like exciting and
Speaker 1: empowering about like what your body can do when you
Speaker 1: push it absolutely. And I know you talked about your
Speaker 1: struggle with eating disorders. Isn't that even more empowering with
Speaker 1: how much you've overcome and to be able to feel
Speaker 1: strong in your body, has that just been even more
Speaker 1: of a full circle moment for yourself? A percent? And
Speaker 1: I remember when I was first trying to get through
Speaker 1: my anorexia. Um, one of the things I really focused
Speaker 1: on was thanking my body for what it could do,
Speaker 1: instead of seeing it as this like visual picture that
Speaker 1: I was always trying to shrink and trying to disappear into.
Speaker 1: It was like, my body allows me to walk, it
Speaker 1: allows me to you know, um, you know. And at
Speaker 1: the time, I wasn't much of a dancer. But since
Speaker 1: then and I always try to really think about that,
Speaker 1: like my body is not an object, it's a tool,
Speaker 1: and it allows me too much. And the more I've
Speaker 1: learned to focus on the what I can do and
Speaker 1: train my body to be, the less I have because
Speaker 1: of course I'm like past andrexia, but there's always that
Speaker 1: little part of my brain that there's always the voice
Speaker 1: I had to tell ed to go away. I don't
Speaker 1: believe that anymore. And the more I've worked on my
Speaker 1: my skills with my body, the easier it is to
Speaker 1: tell him to get the heck out of here. I
Speaker 1: love having tools in your tool kit. It's so autome,
Speaker 1: and I'd like to think of my brain as a
Speaker 1: toolbox and I'm just filling it with tools. Love that.
Speaker 1: So something that I think is very inspiring to me
Speaker 1: is I know you're an independent artist and you're constantly
Speaker 1: creating and innovating, And I was wondering, when you're going
Speaker 1: into creating a project, what is the creative process, Like
Speaker 1: do you generally have a theme in mind or a
Speaker 1: general idea or things you want to implement in your
Speaker 1: project or how does it generally go about when you're
Speaker 1: creating something and wanting to innovate a space. You know,
Speaker 1: it all depends. I do love a theme though. That's
Speaker 1: why I like Christmas albums are so fun. Is like
Speaker 1: there's a very understood theme that everyone gets and we
Speaker 1: get to use the from the theme. Um, you know what.
Speaker 1: I've done that on several albums, Like I wrote my
Speaker 1: last original album was called Artemis and I actually decided
Speaker 1: I wanted the theme to be this like fantastical story
Speaker 1: and I wrote a comic book so that like the
Speaker 1: album and the artwork and the music videos and the
Speaker 1: tour could like center around this theme and the red
Speaker 1: hair thank you. I love red hair. Um. It's like
Speaker 1: really fun when you can create like a palette and
Speaker 1: then you get to just bring it to life in
Speaker 1: different mediums, Like making the music videos is so fun,
Speaker 1: you know, for that Artemus album or making the tour flow,
Speaker 1: like feeling like I got to tell a little bit
Speaker 1: of the story. Um so so yeah. To me, I
Speaker 1: think it all comes a lot from like storytelling. I've
Speaker 1: always been a storyteller. My dad like like taught me
Speaker 1: how to tell stories from the time I was little
Speaker 1: because he was a writer and loved storytelling. And so
Speaker 1: I think that's where a lot of my creativity really
Speaker 1: thrives is when I find a way to make it
Speaker 1: feel like the music is a narrative or you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm writing to create a feeling of a story
Speaker 1: or an arc of a story. There's something so magical
Speaker 1: about that to me and always has been. So you've
Speaker 1: done comic books, You've composed what's the next element of
Speaker 1: storytelling that you want to go down? What's the next
Speaker 1: endeavor for you? The next endeavor? Um, you know, I've
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to well, I've always wanted to compose
Speaker 1: music for like a score, like a film. And I
Speaker 1: think you know, John Williams, I think is the greatest
Speaker 1: musical storyteller of our time. He's inspired me so much,
Speaker 1: and so I'd love to write like theme music, manifest
Speaker 1: put it out there. Yes, I'm a big manifesto. I've
Speaker 1: been trying to get into it, and I've noticed when
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been putting out good vibes, good
Speaker 1: vibes come back. So we're seeing how it goes. I
Speaker 1: love it. It's so true though, it's like what you
Speaker 1: put into the world is what comes back. It's also
Speaker 1: what you're going to look for. It's very much what
Speaker 1: you look for, you know, if you're focusing. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the good and the bad and the positive and the negative.
Speaker 1: They're all around us simultaneously all the time, and it's
Speaker 1: just what have you trained your mind to see? Um,
Speaker 1: are you going to pick out the good? Are you
Speaker 1: going to focus on the bad? And you know, and
Speaker 1: it changes your life depending on which one you're looking for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So how do you stay creative without getting into a funk?
Speaker 1: Because that is something that I've struggled with quite a bit. Yes, Um,
Speaker 1: and funks are the worst it is, and it's like inevitable,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it happens, and um, so I definitely
Speaker 1: get into funks and sometimes it's just a matter of
Speaker 1: being kind to myself when I'm in it and not,
Speaker 1: you know, just reminding myself that is a part of
Speaker 1: the process. Like when I'm in writing mode and I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm just writing bad song after bad song
Speaker 1: after bad song, I'm like, you know what this happens.
Speaker 1: We've been here before. We know that the good stuff
Speaker 1: will eventually come, you know, So like be kind to myself.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the the mantra of the Funk because
Speaker 1: it's like the harder I am on myself and the
Speaker 1: more I like get angry, you know, my why are
Speaker 1: I being better? Like, it's only going to slow down
Speaker 1: the process. It's like any emotion, you just gotta feel it,
Speaker 1: experience it, and then it will move on. You know.
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that living life has helped get help
Speaker 1: you get out of creative funks because you're pulling more
Speaker 1: from your life experience than just supposed to forcing yourself
Speaker 1: to write. I think so. I think sometimes, Um, like
Speaker 1: I just read this amazing book called The Happiness Advantage,
Speaker 1: and he talks in the book about how, you know,
Speaker 1: we have this mindset so many times that we just
Speaker 1: got to push through and we just gotta like grit
Speaker 1: down and like get through it and keep working. But
Speaker 1: he says that if you do small, tiny things and
Speaker 1: it's not like you even have to go on a
Speaker 1: huge vacation or take a month off work or like
Speaker 1: do anything big like that. Like little tiny things that
Speaker 1: just like give you a burst of happiness, whether it's
Speaker 1: like going to your favorite like restaurant for lunch in
Speaker 1: the middle of the day, like just to kind of
Speaker 1: pull yourself out of something, or um listening to your
Speaker 1: favorite song and taking five minutes to dance around your
Speaker 1: house before you leave to an important meeting. Like what
Speaker 1: that does to your body, um and your mind is
Speaker 1: game changing, and it gives you a huge advantage in
Speaker 1: like the workplace even or in just your mental health.
Speaker 1: Like tiny bursts of happiness. And so I've like kind
Speaker 1: of tried to like implement this into my life, and
Speaker 1: it's been really cool to see how I can work
Speaker 1: longer in sessions, i can be more creatively a tune
Speaker 1: when I'm kind of taking little breaks, which is not
Speaker 1: intuitive to me. I have for a long time time
Speaker 1: was always like, no, you work, you work, you work,
Speaker 1: you go, you go, you go until you figure it out.
Speaker 1: But there's so much more power that comes when you
Speaker 1: take a little break. Yeah, reset yourself, get some sunlight,
Speaker 1: have a snack, then go back in and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be so much more effective than if you just like
Speaker 1: powered through. I agree, And I feel like we're also
Speaker 1: living in a society where hustle and grind culture is
Speaker 1: so like it's good to wake up at three am
Speaker 1: to get your days started and stay up till midnight
Speaker 1: and work so hard and do all that. But it's
Speaker 1: like that's just not how our bodies function, and we
Speaker 1: need sleep and to give ourselves rest. And I feel
Speaker 1: like people don't really talk about it, like sleep is cool, guys,
Speaker 1: you should sleep, Like going to sleep early, sleep is cool.
Speaker 1: I love that. And you know, I just feel like
Speaker 1: there's this need whenever anyone's like what are you up to?
Speaker 1: What's going on? You feel like you have to the
Speaker 1: best answer is like I am so exhausted. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm just working so hard and there's so much happening.
Speaker 1: I could bear like, you know, that's like the answer.
Speaker 1: That's like the cool answer. I feel like it has
Speaker 1: been for years. But why not just be like I'm
Speaker 1: up to nothing? And it's kind of great. You know
Speaker 1: what I've loved lately that if I like, if I
Speaker 1: have stuff, I'll tell peop about it. But in those times,
Speaker 1: so maybe I'm in between projects. I've learned to like
Speaker 1: be really okay with being like, you know, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of in between stuff right now, but like I'm happy.
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. That's like my favorite answer to give
Speaker 1: is not even to talk about what I'm doing or
Speaker 1: how tired I am or if I am tired, but
Speaker 1: just saying like I'm actually like in a good place,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm happy. And it's funny to see people's
Speaker 1: response if you say, like, if your answer is that
Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy, like, oh, you know, it's it's a
Speaker 1: very intriatum. Tell me more, um, you know, or if
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be that I'm happy, be like,
Speaker 1: oh man, it's you know, it could be whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But talking about how you're actually doing rather than what
Speaker 1: you're doing is like a shift for I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people, especially in the entertainment space, when it's
Speaker 1: so much about like what are you working on next?
Speaker 1: What do you do? Anyway, it's not just like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm actually pretty content right now, like really, yeah, I'm fulfilled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and for no reason, I'm just like I'm just happy
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh that's good. Yeah, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, okay, we have to take one more
Speaker 1: quick break. But when we come back, I want to
Speaker 1: talk all about touring, including how it affects your mental health,
Speaker 1: the good and the bad. We'll be right back and
Speaker 1: we're back. So when you're on tour, would you say
Speaker 1: tour has been like good for your mental health and
Speaker 1: the travel or it does it weigh on your mental
Speaker 1: health a bit because I can't imagine like going from
Speaker 1: city to city performing all the time. Or do you
Speaker 1: just like love it and is that how you feed
Speaker 1: off your energy? I kind of love it. Well that's good,
Speaker 1: I do. I thank Heavin's. I would not do it
Speaker 1: nearly as much as I do if I hadn't realized
Speaker 1: early on that like, oh my gosh, I love this. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I love entertaining. I feel like it's kind
Speaker 1: of what I was born to do, was to get
Speaker 1: out there and put on a show. It's it's just
Speaker 1: who I've always been. But I think the most important
Speaker 1: thing that makes me love it is UM the people
Speaker 1: I tour with, Like I I really have a family
Speaker 1: and UM. And it's funny because I don't have a
Speaker 1: family of my own in my home, Like I have
Speaker 1: friends in l A and I like my people that
Speaker 1: I love, but like I feel almost like when I
Speaker 1: go on tour, I'm going home to a family. Um
Speaker 1: that you know, because some of these guys and these
Speaker 1: you know, some of the guys have been with me
Speaker 1: for ten years, and my dancers have been with me
Speaker 1: from anywhere from eight to four years. Um. So it's
Speaker 1: like we really are a family and we have our
Speaker 1: own we have our own Christmas traditions at this point
Speaker 1: because we've toured so many times through Christmas and so um.
Speaker 1: I think aside from the fact that I love performing,
Speaker 1: I love putting on a show, it's the fact that
Speaker 1: I can go to sleep at night on my tour bus,
Speaker 1: you know, like a sleepover with my friends on the bus,
Speaker 1: And that makes all the difference to me. That's so
Speaker 1: much fun. Are you so excited to go back on tour.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, lindsay, I need to see the show.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see you. I want to see
Speaker 1: you Trappee's in the air. Oh yeah, come back to
Speaker 1: a show. We'll get your tickets. Oh that would be
Speaker 1: so cool. So are you so excited to just trap
Speaker 1: peas in front of so many people or you a
Speaker 1: little well, we did it last Christmas. Um, that was
Speaker 1: like our our little maiden journey to see how it felt.
Speaker 1: And it worked and and it was great. And so
Speaker 1: we're going to all new cities this year's and we've
Speaker 1: also had time to like home the craft a little
Speaker 1: bit more. So I'm I'm very you're an expert. I'm
Speaker 1: a quote unquote sure, I'm expert ish enough to do
Speaker 1: in front of audiences. So um, because like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't be able to go up in the
Speaker 1: air in front of a crowd if I was still afraid,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if I was like afraid
Speaker 1: of falling, Like I could not do that in front
Speaker 1: of a crowd. But now that I'm like very comfortable,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel strong, I feel confident, like
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I love that. Are you doing any other
Speaker 1: d I wise for this tour? So many? I, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be making a violin something cool. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what. But I'm also super involved in the costuming,
Speaker 1: so I've like, um, you know, costumes all over my
Speaker 1: house of like bits and pieces that I've been piecing
Speaker 1: together and then I basically, once I pieced them all
Speaker 1: together and pinned things, I like send it to a
Speaker 1: seamstress and then she makes it so that it's not
Speaker 1: going to fall apart. But like, I love costuming. It's
Speaker 1: something that I get a lot of joy in. Again,
Speaker 1: it's like Kraft night. Yeah, I saw you made a
Speaker 1: skirt out of your curtains and I was so impressed.
Speaker 1: I was like, how did you do this? That was
Speaker 1: you know, that was a moment of necessity. Like I
Speaker 1: had ordered a dress for a music video and then
Speaker 1: it just kept not coming and not coming, and it
Speaker 1: kept saying it was coming, and the night before it
Speaker 1: still hadn't arrived. And I got home and it wasn't there,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's nine o'clock at night.
Speaker 1: What am I going to wear tomorrow? And I was
Speaker 1: like laying in bed and I like looked at my
Speaker 1: curtains and it was like the sound of music moment.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a favorite things. Um So yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh. I just basically pinned
Speaker 1: it to a skirt and like draped the fabric and anyways,
Speaker 1: it ended up looking really great. It was like the
Speaker 1: perfect ideal situation. I didn't have to ruin the they're
Speaker 1: actually back in my room. They were Anthropology curtains, So
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to ruin my curtains.
Speaker 1: Never not Anthropology curtains. Never not Anthropology. It's like designer
Speaker 1: wear for your window. Literally, So I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to ruin them. So I just like unhooked them,
Speaker 1: pinned them up, unpinned it at the video, and like
Speaker 1: carefully placed them back up. Like goodness, I'm so excited
Speaker 1: for the holiday sales that are about to come from Anthropology.
Speaker 1: The candles have some fun stuff, their home to Core,
Speaker 1: their dresses, everything is so magical. They're their home to
Speaker 1: Core is what I hope my future house to be like.
Speaker 1: It will like I'm it's just going to be color.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a pink couch. Like I just know,
Speaker 1: there's just gonna be fun. Yes, so like so feminine,
Speaker 1: I guess is what I think draws me in. It's fun,
Speaker 1: it's whimsical, and I feel like I feel like that
Speaker 1: you can't find it's hard to find nowadays, it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything is so dark and dark colors. I'm like, where's
Speaker 1: the color at Yeah, everybody's into neutrals and like a
Speaker 1: very basic palette. Um basic like patterns. But I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: well give me some flooras need some color. Yeah, sparkle, oh,
Speaker 1: sparkle anything and it will make it better. That is
Speaker 1: my life motto. You got to absolutely Lindsay, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for taking the time to come on my podcast,
Speaker 1: and everyone go listen to her second Christmas album, snow Walls.
Speaker 1: It is Oh my goodness, I'm so excited and I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see you hopefully live. That will be incredible. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much for such
Speaker 1: a great conversation. I loved all the things. I'm going
Speaker 1: to try to do something uncomfortable every day. I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank God for that. Thank you of course, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. Lindsay was so lovely getting to talk to you.
Speaker 1: You too, have a wonderful rest of your day because
Speaker 1: luck with college. Thank you. I will make it through.
Speaker 1: You are, You're gonna be great. Okay, bye bye