WEBVTT - Featuring Lindsey Stirling 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.160 Lindsay, I am so honored that you're coming on my 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:07.240 podcast here today. You the way you've approached your career 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.920 and the way you've been so innovative in creating new 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.480 ideas in your space has been so inspiring for me. 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.040 And the way you reimagine things. I just want to 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.760 start off with, how did you first fall in love 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:21.000 with the violin? Well, thank you first of all, thank 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.599 you for having me, and thanks for your very kind words. Um, 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:26.560 I fell in love with the violin when I was 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.040 really little. My parents loved classical music and they were 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.600 always playing, you know, these old classical records in our home, 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.280 and so that's just what I fell in love with. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.520 I was exposed to it, it's what I knew, and 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.959 I really wanted violin lessons when I was six, and 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.120 so you have those violin lessons. And was there ever 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.600 a time where you stopped playing violin or has it 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.080 just always been something that's been an outlet for you. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.720 It's always been an outlet. There were times, like in 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.840 high school or in my teen years, when I like 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:57.760 kind of started to fall out of love with it 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.800 a little bit here and there and went through lulls, 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.200 but I never quit. You know, it's always been a 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.360 part of my life. I love that. So I have 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.920 to ask, how many violence do you own? I've got 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.919 a whole closet full of them. It's bad, um, but 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.720 I probably have like seventeen at this point. Bad or 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.640 amazing one or the other. I don't know. You know, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.679 that's a really good point. They're covered in sparkles and 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.120 lace and all kinds of fun things, so it's amazing you. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:26.080 So you're telling me you have bedazzled violence. I do. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.720 I have some really pretty ones that I get to 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.399 tour with, and like, I just got a new one 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.800 that I'm really excited to decorate and figure out how 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.160 I want to make it feel Christmas Eve for this 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.240 tour because I decorate them myself. So I'm like, what 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.440 am I gonna do? What craft d I y queen? 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.080 We love that, we love it? So do you glue 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:49.160 the rhinestones on yourself? When I get them bedazzled. I've 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.680 actually sent them to like professional bedazzlers, because as we 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.040 know in l A, that's the thing you have to 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.800 So yeah, I wanted the real people to do the 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.760 real job. But if it's like something more unique, like 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:02.960 I just made one for a music video where there's 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:07.320 like little skeleton bones and all this stuff on the 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.720 violin and I made I made that myself because that 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.840 was like a fun craft night. I was like, I'm 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.400 gonna put on a rom com and I'm gonna make 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.520 my skeleton violin. What rom com? Oh? I think I 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.399 watched um Maid of Honor? How was it? Oh, it's 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.640 so cute if you haven't seen it. I'm always for 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.120 a good rom com and a good crafty project. Yes, 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.040 your girlf my own heart. We need to get together 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.919 sometime and just craft and calm it up those nights. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.040 A good craft night with a good rom com. It's ideal. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.960 It is. I'm in college and I'm like, that's my 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.160 ideal night. Just be with the friends, do a face 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:45.600 mask crafting. Yes, what better way to live life? Love it. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.280 I know you were on America's Got Talent, which I 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.680 think is so in such an interesting part of your 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.840 story because though you didn't win it and you got eliminated, 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.480 you kept going. It's always hard when you have a 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.639 setback to keep pursuing what made you keep going. After 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.880 you're on TV and then millions of people watch you 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.560 get voted off because I can't imagine going through something 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.839 like that. Yes, you know, it wasn't only getting voted off. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.520 It's not like it's just so you didn't make it 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.080 to the next round. It was so humiliating, Like I 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.560 got told just the harshest critique I've ever received, like 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.760 in front of millions of people. I was told that 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.720 I sounded like rats being strangled and that you know, 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.360 it just didn't have it. It took and it was 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:32.239 so embarrassing. Um. And you know, from that experience though afterwards, 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.079 I remember I did think to myself, I don't think 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.880 I could ever get on the stage again like this. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.920 I don't think this is for me. Um. But then 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.840 there was this like a little inner voice that whether 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.360 you call it your spirit, your gut, your instincts, whatever 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.600 the universe, I think it's a I think it's like 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.360 my spirit and God like telling me that like there's more, 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.080 there is more for you, don't give up. It just 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.680 wasn't right then, and so I kind of changed the 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.720 wording of what they said. Rather than not good enough, 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.000 I was like, you know what, I'm gonna just add, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:07.040 you're not good enough yet because my performance really wasn't great, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.080 like if I'm going to be honest, like I kind 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.840 of earned the critique I got. But no one moment 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.440 of your life should ever define you. No one performance 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.960 should ever define how you're going to perform for the 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.840 rest of your life. Yeah, it wasn't my best performance. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.279 I was so nervous and I was new at this craft. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:24.719 But I put in the time and I realized I 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.599 just wasn't good enough yet. And then when I got 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.680 back on a stage, like, you know, a year and 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:34.720 a half later for my first show, like my first show, Um, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.080 I was ready. Then I had put in the time 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.680 and it was a different story at that point. And 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.200 so yeah, I think there's that experience taught me so 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.760 much about grit getting up after you fall, and that 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.760 sometimes you know it just isn't the right time or place, 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.159 and that doesn't mean it that forever is not the 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.360 right time or place. Absolutely, And I've seen so many 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.320 of your interviews and I love the way you you 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.840 view things and the positive spin you take on it, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.080 because I feel like the way we talk to ourselves 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.279 is so important, and it's the energy that we give 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.400 out and it's also the energy that we received, and 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.120 it's something that I'm definitely I struggle a lot with 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.360 I'm trying to figure out the whole self love journey. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:20.400 It is a process. And I was wondering, what it's 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.839 hard to continue sometimes and to keep going with the 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.359 positive talk when you're not feeling so positive. So what 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.120 advice do you have for you know, continuing with gratitude 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:34.400 and just keeping that those good vibes around yourself, you know? 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:38.400 I think that, Um, when it comes to like positive 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.560 self talk and all of that, it's so much more 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.680 about the overall journey than the moment. Like sometimes you're 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.760 not gonna win in the moment, but it's about learning 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.320 to train your mind for the overall journey. And um, 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.040 when I was in college, actually I was, I was 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:57.880 in a place where I hated myself and I was 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.600 so negative and I was I was then rexic, I 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:05.200 was depressed. I truly hated myself, and I finally woke 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.039 up one day to realizing I used to not be 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.960 like this. I'm sick of hating myself and I deserve 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:15.040 everybody deserves better than this, And um, I didn't win 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.400 every moment from there on out. It's really hard to 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:21.039 like force that positive self talk in your head. It's 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.240 it's almost impossible to believe it when you say it 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.880 when you're in a state like that. But it was 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.560 through slowly training myself and saying the positive things over 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.320 and over and over again, even though I didn't believe them, 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.280 looking in the mirror at my eyes and saying like, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.680 I love you, and you are strong, you are smart, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.000 you are you are you know all the things that 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.279 we want to believe about ourselves that I didn't believe. 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.159 But after you say it enough, it's like you're rewiring 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.279 your brain. After you write in a gratitude journal enough, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.520 Like if you do that every night, you are rewiring 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.480 and strengthening neuropathways in your mind that you may not 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.760 feel like it's winning in the moment because you're like, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.880 I don't believe this as I say it or as 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.599 I write it. But the more you do it, the 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.520 more those become, the stronger neural pathways than the negative ones. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.920 Just like working out muscles um and your mind will 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.520 naturally start to use those pathways. I mean, it's an actual, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.800 like biological there's a science behind it. It's a science 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.680 and it's not just like, oh, well, believe in yourself 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.880 and you'll feel better. It's like, no, you're actually creating 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:28.760 you know, pathways and biology and science and so anyways, 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.920 I'm a big believer in even if you don't think 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.280 you're winning the moment, you're creating your future and it 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.960 will change your life and it changed mind. I that 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.080 is so important to hear because I also feel like 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.240 I know a lot of people in college listen, listen 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.800 to this podcast, and college is just it's a it's 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.160 a mess up. Social experiment is what I've had to 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:52.120 realize about being there from high school in a random 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.320 place and you're like socialized and see what happens, and 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.920 it really and I think social media exascerbates it. And 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.240 you know, now we have you know, always comparing yourself 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.280 and there's body image issues that you know, it's so 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:10.600 hard to just be nowadays, you know and just get through. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.160 And I know you're you're so active on social media. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.360 Have you found that balance where you know you can 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.920 still prioritize your mental health and keep that the priority 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.280 while still being on an app where you know you 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:25.680 get can you can compare yourself a lot too. Yeah, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:27.520 I think it's always going to be a battle. It's 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.280 just a reality that we have to live with, and 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.920 we're almost like in the middle of the science experiment 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.440 because it's also new still, you know, and everybody and 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.679 it's always changing, and so it's like hard to figure 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:42.840 out constantly what the best balances, um But I find 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.200 that it's healthy to figure out your own limitations. Like 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.199 there are certain things that I thought, I, you know, 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.440 that I would like maybe follow on social media, and 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.600 then you realize that doesn't make me feel good. You know, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.839 when I see this person's post nothing against them, but 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:01.960 I'm not saying that they did anything wrong. It's just 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.400 like when I see the kind of content they're posting, 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.160 it's not making me feel good. And it could be 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.440 because I'm not in a good place and nothing about them, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.400 but it's like those are the posts that for now 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.720 I'm gonna mute, you know, like really curating your feed 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.720 because it's inevitable we're all going to be on these feeds. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.080 But like learning to set boundaries for yourself. Learning like 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.040 if you have to put a timer that allows you 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:24.720 to only look at the app for a certain amount 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.240 of time, if you need that, do it, you know, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.600 learning to create boundaries in a world where there are 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.079 no boundaries anymore. I think is so so important, and 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.240 every once in a while take a little bit of 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.000 a like hiatus from social media where I'm like, I'm 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.880 only going to get on to post and I'm not 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.920 gonna use it as a um consumer for a week, 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.360 you know, I'm just we're gonna get on and post, 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:47.960 not look at anything or even have someone else, like 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.880 have my assistant post it for me. Like, I think 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.679 it's really healthy sometimes to almost do like a bit 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.000 of a fast from it, to like detox, because it 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.040 is a like it is a bit of a toxin 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.040 to get all that in you every day. It is. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:04.000 And I've noticed I turned my notifications off from Instagram 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.679 and all that, and that has helped tremendously because it's 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.040 not getting the ding for it anymore. So it's only 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.120 when I choose to go on it, you know. It's 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.520 like those little things that I've noticed really with me personally, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.160 do you have any like go to when you're not 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.560 feeling your your best, like go to self care? You're like, oh, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.560 this will make me feel better. Let's see what does 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.360 my go to self care? UM. Lately, I've really gotten 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:33.280 into breathwork, which is something I have you done it. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.800 I've heard so much about it from so many people, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.480 and I hear it's incredible, but I've never done it. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.360 It's really powerful, it's and it's the kind of thing 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.560 again that like when I first did it the very 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.200 first time, I was kind of like, all right, that 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.040 was kind of relaxing, cool, Like I don't know what 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.400 everybody's the big hype is. But then as I kept 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.720 doing it, and now it's like a daily practice. I 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.880 I do it every morning for like, oh like ten 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.800 to fifteen minutes. It's not a breaking my schedule, but 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.920 I've just found it has made an immense difference in 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:08.160 my anxiety because I am once a day like calming 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.800 my nervous system. Again, it's not just this woo boo stuff. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.840 It's science, like you're actually changing the chemistry and your 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.080 body when you're oxygen eating yourselves and taking this time 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.880 to like reset your nervous system. It's something I do 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:22.680 before I go on stage every night now so that 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.120 those like those like adrenaline pumps that I'm getting that 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.079 are so strong and sometimes cause me to be a 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.200 little bit out of whack when I first step on stage. 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.160 It it literally just resets everything. So I don't know, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:37.600 breathwork has been a huge, like maintenance practice in my 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.360 life right now. But also if I feel like I'm 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.520 starting to have an anxiety moment, just that reset of 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.480 being able to do some of these simple like even 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.560 if you know, a simple breath that I do often 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.760 is where you take three breaths in and one breath out, 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:55.000 so just like, oh fun, that's fun to do that. Yeah, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:56.280 it's kind of fun. You do it to the beat 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.600 of a song, um that's in four or four time, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.760 and it like works perfectly, and it's amazing how how 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.440 much it has helped my anxiety. So that's my go 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.360 to Okay, I need I have anxiety too, and O 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.360 c D. So I need to get on this because 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.360 I know what it's like having a nervous system out 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.280 of whack. Are always in fight or flight, So I 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.280 need to calm I need to calm her sometimes we 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.560 all do. And I think our world is riddled with 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.120 anxiety these days, you know, And how is it not? 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.720 How is it not some of us worse than others. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.599 But it's like you know, anything, you know, I don't know. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.880 I've tried medication at times, that breath work is the 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.280 most helpful thing I've ever done. That's so interesting because 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.720 I have been really trying to figure out what works 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.760 for me and you know, maintaining that and it's it's 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.880 hard to continually work on it. But something I've been 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.120 doing that my friend recommends is I named my anxiety um. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.120 Her name is Jojo Um, and I'm just like, Jojo, 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.680 We're good, Jojo, stop it. We're so good, Jojo, you 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.480 don't need to mess things up for me. And I 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.800 noticed it kind of helps because I'm putting it's kind 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.400 of separating in my brain, like, oh, it's not me. 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.920 I love that. And I did the same thing with 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.280 my eating disorder. I called it ed um perfect and 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.480 I yeah, and it does. There is something really relieving 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.840 about realizing that this is just a piece of you. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.520 It's not you, it's not even it's really what the 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.560 world has done to you. So it's not even you, 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.240 and it compartmentalizes it. And it's nice to have something 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.560 to be like like ed not today. I do not 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.320 believe what you're telling me about myself. You know, Jojo, 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:33.719 what are you doing? Pull it together? You know, it's 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.520 little things like that, But I love, and I love 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.240 being able to talk about it with people because I 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.040 feel like once I started having these like open dialogues 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.160 with my friends, it truly made me feel so much better, like, oh, 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.160 my goodness, I'm not the only person going through it, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:49.280 because when you're going through it can feel so isolating. Absolutely, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.160 it really can. And I think one of the best 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.440 things I ever did for my recovery when I was 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:59.520 antarexic was going to a group therapy, Terrified absolutely terrified 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.520 love therapy. It was on campus, and I found out 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.440 through a counselor on campus that they had the secret 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.760 group that met and it was like a basement so 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.280 no one would know where we were. Um, it was 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.000 terrifying to go, but like one of the most powerful 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.800 things was to sit in a room with other women 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.480 who had never met before and share them expressed the 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.480 same thoughts that I had in my head that I 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.080 thought were so crazy and so isolating. And you know, 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.320 there's a lot of power in just community. There really is. 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.280 And you noticed when someone says I mean, you're like, oh, 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.920 you feel that too, so do I. And it's it's 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.320 taking that first step to just say something, which is 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:39.440 often the hardest thing um. Something that I am really 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.360 inspired by is I know you talked about doing ballroom 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.880 dance as like a release, and I started to I 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.720 signed up for a tap dance class this semester, but 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.480 I've never danced before in my life, and it's with 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.240 dance majors and people have taps since they were two, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.040 and I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm having 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.120 so much fun. So I was wondering you have that 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.240 same release with ballroom dancing where you kind of can't worry, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.560 you kind of have to focus on what you're doing. Absolutely, 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.080 I think it's really important to one like have an 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.720 outlet something like that where you get to you really 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.840 have to, like you said, focus and it takes you 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.080 out of whatever you're living in on your day to day. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.000 But also, I think there's something so great about being 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:25.680 a consistent student in life, like the ability to try 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.120 something new and realize that like, Okay, I'm going to 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.040 be kind of bad at this for a while because 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.680 I'm just learning and oh my gosh, is they're teaching 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.080 me this step it feels impossible. I think that is 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:39.520 such an important feeling to consistently have as a human 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.720 because as we're as we grow as adults, we just 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:47.120 get so so comfortable being comfortable, and we get really 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.640 uncomfortable being bad at things. Like kids are fine falling, 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.120 They're fine if they suck at something, and they're like 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.840 they're like, it's okay, I'm I'm just learning. Of course 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.400 I suck, but adults aren't good at that. And so 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.920 you know, like yeah, in a ballroom or I've recently 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:06.360 started taking a trapeze class, like so you know, so uncomfortable. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.840 So um odd I love it though, but I really 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.560 think there's so much value in And also you have 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.120 to really focus because and it does pull you out 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.000 of your head because you're like, I have to focus 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:19.480 on this or I'm gonna trip on my shoe or 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.520 I'm going to fall off this areal apparatus. You know. Literally, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.280 I've been trying to live by doing one thing a 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:30.160 day that makes me uncomfortable. Oh and it's honestly made 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.480 me live more life than I ever have because I've 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.240 been really putting myself out there. Can you tell me 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.640 an example? Oh, of course, Um, I asked someone out 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.360 for coffee, which I've never done before. Um. When and 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.360 this was a little bit terrifying. But in my tap class, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.320 my teacher pointed at me and told me to do 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.040 the dance routine in front of everybody. Did I want 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.280 to shoot my pants a bit? Yes, but didn't make 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.720 me feel uncomfortable? And absolutely did so we got everything 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.680 that made us uncomfortable on the way. So it's just 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.760 like little things that I do throughout the day, just 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.000 like for me socially, anxiety can cause. So I've been 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.760 trying to put myself in social situations. So whether that's 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:07.920 I went to a party by myself, which I've never 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.520 done before, but I actually had the best time. So 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.800 it's just been it's been a lot, but it's been good. Yeah, 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.320 good for you. I'm going to take that. I don't 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.199 know if I will have the courage to do it 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.280 every day. That's bold, just one thing, it could be 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:25.320 so small. I think it's amazing. Just one Okay, Okay, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.480 I could but I love that. I think that's amazing. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.600 It's fun. I've been really trying to the goal for 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.119 myself for this year is to try and be the 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.040 best person I can be and try and you know, 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.160 grow as much as I can. And I've been doing 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.959 my life in three months increments where I feel like 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.240 when I plan something for three months, I'm a completely 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.639 different person. So it's been helpful to do it in 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.919 those bits I find. Yeah, oh that's so good. I 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.080 love it. I want to talk about trapeezing because I 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.159 know you are going on tour and you're releasing a 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.800 Christmas album, which is Can we talk about how fast 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.639 the holidays came this year? Oh my gosh, I cannot 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.520 believe that we're almost in spooky season. Like, yeah, do 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.919 you have any Halloween costumes planned? You know, I am 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.160 the kind of person I have a costume shed amazing 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.000 just of like so many costumes from music videos and tours. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.480 I love costumes, so I keep them all. Um, I'm 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.800 like a costume hoarder. I guess you could say, but 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.800 it's a great I'm not gonna lie. I know. I 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:23.760 always tell my friends, if you don't know what to be, 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.480 come over. We'll play dress up. So, um, I don't 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.280 know what I'm gonna be, but we're gonna be a 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.159 tour rehearsals. So I'm planning on throwing a like a 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:35.040 Halloween party after a long day of Christmas tour rehearsals. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:39.240 I absolutely love that we have to take a quick break, 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.119 but when we come back, I want to talk about 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.120 your new album snow Waltz and the crazy stuff you're 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.919 going to be doing on tour, and it has to 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:55.800 do with track peezing. We'll be right back and we're back. 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.479 Your new album, snow Waltz comes out so soon. And 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.880 I know you described this album as a whimsical, pixie 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.040 like feeling. That's quintessentially me. Can you please expand on 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.119 that because I love how that's phrased. Well, thank you. Um. 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.080 You know, this is actually my second Christmas album, and 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.040 my first one I really leaned into like what does 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.480 Christmas iconically sound like? You know? So I had some 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.679 big band songs in there, and I was trying to 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.440 really lean into the traditional sound of Christmas. And this 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.760 time I was like, actually, I want Christmas to come 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.119 a little bit into my world. And so, um, I 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.840 do feel like this album is still sounds like Christmas, 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:40.240 but it also sounds very much like me and like whimsical. 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.560 I I just cannot wait to like take it on 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.240 the tour and get to share like pixie dust with 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.560 people every night. So you are going to be trappeezing 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:54.080 while playing the violin, you must be incredible at multitasking. Well, 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.000