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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Devin. How are you today? I'm good about

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Speaker 1: How are you going? I'm all right, thank you. It's

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Speaker 1: it's been a hectic few days for you, I guess,

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Speaker 1: huh yeah. And I think it's there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: no matter if you're black, if you're white. I think

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Speaker 1: we could all say over the last couple of months,

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Speaker 1: everyone's had this mindset of like, how do we create

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Speaker 1: more unity being together, seeing each other as equal? And

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Speaker 1: I just feel over the last couple of days, I

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Speaker 1: that unity. So that's what I've been feeling. How I know,

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Speaker 1: it's frost the team. A lot of guys and been

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Speaker 1: feeling like that just talking to guys. Now we've seen

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Speaker 1: what the NBA has done. They've postponed games for two

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Speaker 1: maybe even going on three days. The NHL didn't play

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Speaker 1: last night. Major League Baseball has been kind of a

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Speaker 1: mixed bag so far. But could you envision a scenario

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Speaker 1: where maybe the NFL doesn't play Week one? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: mean I think right now you can envision anything, right,

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Speaker 1: who would imagine, you know, players in basketball, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I think you can imagine our envision a lot of

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Speaker 1: different things happening. I think at the time right now

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Speaker 1: can be involved in how they can help. UM. Well,

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Speaker 1: I know that's the Leason doing on our ND. That's

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Speaker 1: what I've I've always been doing and trying to do.

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Speaker 1: So I don't have the answers. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: should be done or shouldn't be done, but I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: willing to try to figure that out. Bill Belichick said

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Speaker 1: this morning that there have been some very productive discussions

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Speaker 1: Would you agree that the discussion so far have been productive, Oh,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. We've had a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: being able to share um and and a time where

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Speaker 1: all we usually talk about a football you guys being

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Speaker 1: able to share UM, a lot of different emotions of feelings, UM,

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Speaker 1: sing things that have nothing to deal with football. So UM,

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Speaker 1: we've had a lot of productive taught UH in the

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Speaker 1: past and then obviously recently UM over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of days, and now it's up to all of us

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Speaker 1: as individuals and then together collectively to try to put

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Speaker 1: all those toughts to action. UM. And that's what we're

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Speaker 1: doing us and we're trying to figure out right now

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Speaker 1: how we can be pro active. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the responsibility of an athlete, because it seems like

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Speaker 1: now maybe even more than ever, when when things come up,

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Speaker 1: it is, oh what is What does Devin mccordy think

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Speaker 1: about it? What does Jayalen Brown think of about it?

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Speaker 1: What does you know Damian Lillard think about it? Like

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Speaker 1: it is? It is really kind of changed I think

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Speaker 1: over the last several years. Were your thoughts on it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I think it's awesome that had the platform UM.

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Speaker 1: And you know the last couple of days you feel

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Speaker 1: the pressure too, UM of you know when we got

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Speaker 1: the right words to say. I didn't know what to say. UM.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's that pressure too, UM of that

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Speaker 1: knowing that it's very challenging, um, but also accepting out

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Speaker 1: trying to get other people to not just think that.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of times to our history and we've

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Speaker 1: The stories you told were heartbreaking the other day, of

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Speaker 1: because you could have had a real impact with some

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Speaker 1: But it's also important to make sure people know that

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Speaker 1: Just think so long as it's time to re share

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Speaker 1: to get people to understand I've had that conversation what

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Speaker 1: a lot of different guys, even in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: think the more we do that as a society, it

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Speaker 1: you and get your response to it. This is Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay head coach Bruce Arians talking about protests. Please just

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Speaker 1: take action. I don't know that protests is in action.

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Speaker 1: I think each guy has a personal thing. I would

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Speaker 1: because protesting doesn't do crap. In my opinion, I've been

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Speaker 1: It's easy to say protesting a substract, but the hard

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Speaker 1: I think that times in our lives is always difficult,

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Speaker 1: what I've done. I know that's what a lot of

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Speaker 1: And then on top of all of it, David's still

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Speaker 1: So UM, here, that stuff has been I don't want

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Speaker 1: this thing up here today? Oh, just have an open mind.

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Speaker 1: You know, like when I go on my social media account,

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Speaker 1: it's it's name calling, it's your navy, it's this and that. Um.

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Speaker 1: I would just tell people, even if you don't agree,

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Speaker 1: encourage people to do that. And UM, I think the

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Speaker 1: more we do that, the more we understand that we're

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Speaker 1: all one, all one, We're all humans, and that's what's

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Speaker 1: more important than anything. UM. We just try to push that,

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Speaker 1: and I know that's what I've been trying to push them.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what guys believe in and what guys

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