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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama girl drama girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens.

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Speaker 1: We'll take you for a ride. And our comic girl

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Speaker 2: Drama Queens girl fashion, but your tough girl, you could

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Speaker 2: sit with us Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Quise Drama, Queens

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Speaker 4: Twenty three questions you, guys, she's here a gorgeous guest

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Speaker 4: this week.

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Speaker 5: Oh you always look so beautiful, and she can put

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Speaker 5: together it's the crazy n in you.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I would like to think so thank you.

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Speaker 1: That is clutter me. It's so good to see you, guys,

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Speaker 1: you ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 5: Kate Vogel, everyone knows that voice.

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Speaker 3: Look how pretty your microphone is?

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Gold?

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, I need a microphone update. This

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Speaker 3: I need I need to I'm like you drop the

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Speaker 3: link in the chat.

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Speaker 1: Yes please, I'll get you guys all expects. I got

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Speaker 1: you all set up as much?

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Speaker 5: Does it come in rose gold?

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Speaker 1: Rose gold would be cool? Yeah, it's uh, it's definitely

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Speaker 1: like I have a lot to learn, but I feel

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Speaker 1: a technical difficulty in zero point five seconds. But doing

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Speaker 1: the zoom thing. I'm like, there's no excuse for all

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Speaker 1: my stuff not to be dialed.

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Speaker 4: You do sound much clearer than using too close. You've

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, totally. I'm I'm I'm loud and

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Speaker 5: Where are you right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, endless, I'm at home. Okay, Oh my god, come over,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: We're on strike.

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Speaker 3: We should literally just be sitting in the backyard drinking

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Speaker 3: wine together every day.

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Speaker 1: Dude, anytime I'm so down. I I'm here. Yeah, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Let's speaking of strike. We can't talk to you about

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Speaker 4: anything we maybe filmed together, which that's not what we

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: We're playing twenty three questions because we just want to

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Speaker 4: learn more about you.

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Speaker 1: K vocal love it.

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Speaker 4: I feel lucky that we've known you since you were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, insane, it's so wild. It's so wild to think about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy, and it seems like not that long ago.

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Speaker 1: And then in other times you're like, that was a

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Speaker 5: How old were you when we met.

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Speaker 1: I think I was nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Didn't you turn twenty right at the hundredth birthday party?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what? I turned at the hundredth episode party,

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Speaker 1: And you guys, that is a story. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: but oh my god, yeah, the twenty first birthday, that

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Speaker 4: Well, how about we jump out of these questions because

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Speaker 4: I feel like we've got so many questions for you

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm I'm.

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Speaker 5: In, and we have so many questions for you about guys,

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Speaker 5: Stay tuned because Kate has a big announcement that will

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm so alright.

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Speaker 4: Who wants to start?

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll jump in. First question, no pressure, What

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Speaker 3: is your idea of perfect happiness?

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good one. Oh my gosh, Okay, a

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It's definitely like me and my husband Brett,

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Speaker 1: I I that makes me feel good. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: What's your greatest fear? Well, I mean, okay, I have

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Speaker 5: Guys don't think about that every time peeing or getting

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Speaker 4: No, not once in my whole life if I thought.

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Speaker 1: We're musicians who've been just gonna ask. And when you

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Speaker 1: Like there's I think that because there's like pea stops

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Speaker 1: Like when's the next time I get to pee on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it instills a panic in you. Yeah, total pan Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because we don't we don't have that, but y'all do, guys.

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Speaker 4: I've peyed behind so many buildings in Wilmington, Oh just

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Speaker 1: Absolutely no. I mean that, I don't have an issue

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not super glam, wouldn't you say so?

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Speaker 3: I almost feel like the thing that's worse is when

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Speaker 3: But like when somebody gets up from the campfire and

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Speaker 1: Like, I know what you're going to do. You're going

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Speaker 4: Oh, man the elevator. P all right, well we're gonna

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Speaker 4: write that horror film and go sell it to Blumhouse

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, number three. If you could be the best

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Speaker 4: you're an extordinary painter too.

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Speaker 1: But thank you. I I you know what I think

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Speaker 1: I would say, like renovating houses or like old chateaus

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Speaker 4: She said, renovating a chateau.

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Speaker 1: Yes, like Kate is so too. You have to hire

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Speaker 1: Kate to renovate your chateau, you know, and that might

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, are you signed up for that website? Up?

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Speaker 4: It's like a cheapcastles dot com.

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Speaker 3: I am, yeah, same, but I follow all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, girl, you need as she wants a chateau,

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Speaker 3: I will start to send you the links. I look

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, please please do bring me in on this.

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Speaker 3: I have a backlog just in case it's for phase two.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. I'm like, that is my that's

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Speaker 4: So like what if we just do a GoFundMe to

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Speaker 4: buy a chateau that Kate can renovate and then like

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Speaker 1: That would be sweet actually thought about being like like

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Speaker 1: even if it's just me with my iPhone documenting the process,

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Speaker 1: like I love of to do like a whole, like

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Speaker 1: like let's run a workshop or like people can come

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Speaker 4: I could be under that we're gonna find a cheap

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Speaker 1: Ooh I love like a dirty martini with blue cheese olives.

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Speaker 3: That's how I feel about ordering an old fashion whiskey. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think it's good. We were sold this bill of

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Speaker 1: Everyone has so much going on. Everybody's a lot more

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Speaker 1: I mean, I try, I try to be I try

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Speaker 1: one of those things. I don't know if you guys

441
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Speaker 1: have those things where like these memories of something you

442
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: said or you did where you just want to shout

443
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: it out of your head and you're like, why am

444
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 1: I so awkward? Maybe this is just me. I don't know,

445
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: it's O care if it is. I I was backstage

446
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: at a friend's show, and I was like really jet

447
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: lagged because I had just gotten back from a tour

448
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: in Europe, and so I was like really out of it.

449
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Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I support my friends gonna

450
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: go to their show, and one of their other friends

451
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: just casually asked me if I was wearing hair extensions,

452
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: and I absolutely was wearing hair extensions. But however, I said, no,

453
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: this is all my real hair. And then the split

454
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: second after I said it, I was like, why did

455
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: I just lie about that? But then it was too

456
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: late to be like, I'm sorry, I just lied. You know,

457
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: my brain was just like behind like and then it

458
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: like I found out that this girl was like her

459
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: dad is like a very successful person in the entertainment business,

460
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this girl knows some hair extensions when

461
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: she sees them.

462
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 5: Like, oh, oh my gosh, I love a dumb lie.

463
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 5: Give me the dumb line's funny.

464
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have been great if you'd followed up

465
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Speaker 4: with just kidding.

466
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Speaker 1: Exact kidding.

467
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Speaker 5: I feel like I can count on one hand the

468
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 5: experiences I've had with people who have said something then

469
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 5: they're like.

470
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: Actually, that's a lie.

471
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Speaker 5: I don't know why I just said that, and then

472
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 5: they continue on with the conversation. But there's something like

473
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 5: I respect them so much in that moment for the

474
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 5: fact that you just caught yourself saying something you don't

475
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 5: know why you said it, and then you just adjusted

476
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 5: and admitted it right away and kept going. I'm like, whoa,

477
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 5: that is clean energy. It's so good.

478
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: I love it. It is and that's why I look back

479
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why couldn't I have been that girl

480
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: in that moment?

481
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 5: Well, because it's awkward and like it's so hard to

482
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 5: who has that instinct?

483
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: It's hard.

484
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: It's also so weird when your mouth speaks words and

485
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 3: you go, why did my brain do that? And in

486
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 3: front of a stranger, or you're going to be like

487
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: I just short circuited and said something that wasn't true,

488
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 3: Like that's awful. It's like for me anyway, Like the

489
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: immediate feeling of like what just happened is the reason

490
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: I can't get over it and be smart.

491
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Speaker 1: Enough to be like just.

492
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: Kidding, ah, Like I'm panicking that something's wrong with.

493
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: Me, Like yeah, yeah, listen.

494
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 4: I like the idea of carrying back months, months, years later,

495
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: be like, hey, hey, can we address something right?

496
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 5: I was wearing hair extensions.

497
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 4: I was.

498
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Speaker 1: I don't know why I open pray This girl is

499
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: is a drama Queen's fan and listens to this podcast

500
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: because god, oh my god, I.

501
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: I want that. I want that, Okay, Well, aside from

502
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: maybe denying what's in your hair? Uh, what is one

503
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: thing you will never do again?

504
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is such a good segue dye

505
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: my hair because oh I'm like deathly allergic to hair dye.

506
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: It turns out what yes, Oh my god, you guys.

507
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: I found this out working on I don't even know

508
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: like how much I could in a makeup trailer somewhere

509
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: and we'll North Carolina.

510
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: Wait, I feel like I remember this.

511
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had like a crazy reaction. Yeah, yes, And

512
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: I never dyed my hair before, and they were like,

513
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: my hair's already really dark, but they were like, we

514
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: wanted to be jet black. And I was like, cool,

515
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: I've never dyed my hair, but like, let's go. That

516
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: sounds great. I'm all about it. And yeah, and like

517
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: it basically was one of those things where the people

518
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: at Urgent Care were like, here's a bunch of steroids,

519
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: but next time, urchin can might be like anphylectic with

520
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: this and you should, oh my god, never do this again.

521
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, did you find out what the product was

522
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 5: and what was in it? Like, could you do a

523
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 5: vegan hair dyes there if you wanted to? I mean,

524
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 5: isn't there options? Aren't there options?

525
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: There's Okay, there is something now that's new that I

526
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: haven't tried yet, but it's basically I'm allergic to the

527
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: thing it's in Hennah, it's in like all the natural

528
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: hair dyes. It's called PPD. It's like this chemical that's

529
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: it's the thing that opens up the hair follicle so

530
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: that it can't Yeah, so it's like, yeah, it's like

531
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: wild times. But I mean, Hillary, you're my inspiration. You're

532
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: you're rocking, rocking it. It is beautiful. I'm gonna be

533
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: right there with you. Just can't Whre's what I found.

534
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 4: There's a very different group of people that pay you

535
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: compliments in public when you just like go for it,

536
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: and it's it's always surprising. You're like there was a

537
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 4: old man who was the waiter in a restaurant I

538
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 4: took George to the other day and he like wanted

539
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: to sit down at the table. Oh, and I was like,

540
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: no one has ever.

541
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: Been this friendly with me before.

542
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: This is fantastic. So it's it's just a different kind

543
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 4: of different kind of energy you're putting out, But you don't, baby,

544
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: you look so fantastic. I just I want to know

545
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: who was assigned to take you to urgent care because

546
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: you were a kid in a place where you didn't

547
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: live and you're having this reaction.

548
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it was Carrie from Hair Like

549
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: I remember her being at like, I don't think she

550
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: took me like I think I went in like a transpo,

551
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: but I remember because she was like, I've never seen

552
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: this before, and I was like, well, that's because you're

553
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: a professional.

554
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: It's so scary.

555
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. I was lucky

556
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't like worse. But I was like, Okay, that's cool.

557
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: I guess you know, I don't have to spend three

558
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: hundred bucks every time I go get a haircut. They

559
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: just like trim my hair and then I leave.

560
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: You know, so you've got naturally beautiful hair.

561
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you. And I am not wearing

562
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: hair extensions today, I swear to God.

563
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: Okay, what is the strangest purchase you've made or almost made?

564
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: The strangest purchase? Ooh, I mean, I I don't know

565
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: if it's strange, but it's like super inconvenient. I had

566
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: a huge phase at the beginning of my music career

567
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: where like every time I traveled to a new destination,

568
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: I felt like I had to buy like something from

569
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: a house because I was also like moving into my

570
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: first apartment. So I was like, I like went way

571
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: too hard. You know. It was like literally the trailer

572
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: for our gear on our tour bus was also filled

573
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: with like antiques. I was in like Iowa, and I

574
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: was like, these anti shores are way better than the

575
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: ones in La.

576
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: Like that's totally what would be on my tour vest.

577
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 5: That's so funny.

578
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yes see so if we ever, if we ever

579
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: toured together, joy it will be it will just be

580
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: the antiques road show. An antiques roadshow, yes literally.

581
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: And then you could put all the furniture in the

582
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: chateau that we're gonna go fundme. Yes, guys, this is

583
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: this is shaping up nicely. I'm ready, so ready for it.

584
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: Number twelve, Who are your favorite writers?

585
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: My favorite writers? Oh my goodness. I I mean like

586
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: as a musician, I mean I gotta you know, this

587
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: is like pretty obviously I gotta go like Lennon and

588
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: McCartney for sure. Like okay, you know, Deny, I had

589
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: I had an independent study my freshman year of college

590
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: where my professor my textbook was just the Beatles song

591
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: book and he was like, just study what these guys do,

592
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: like their their geniuses, you know, and and so yeah,

593
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: like I think there's such a there's such kind of

594
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: for me, like art is about like humans telling other

595
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: humans what it means to be human, you know, and

596
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: that I feel like they just like nailed that so simply,

597
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: so beautifully. But like writers, writers, I mean, I love

598
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever read Stephen Pressfield The War of Art? Oh? Great,

599
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: it's incredible. It's so good. It's like I love his writing.

600
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: Like How He Is is a fiction or nonfiction nonfiction, it's

601
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: like basically it's kind of about like how to get

602
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: out of your own way as a creative, which I

603
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: am in my own way like constantly when I'm creating.

604
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: And it is one of those books that I feel

605
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: like I want to read like once a quarter because

606
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: it's short, but it's so good, Like he gets to

607
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: the heart of it, Like is that, like Sophie said,

608
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: you've read it? Yeah, yeah, it's really good.

609
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: It's beautiful, it's really inspiring, and I I love that,

610
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: you know, he was inspired by reading Wow Zoo. The

611
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: Art of was like imagine like this notion that he

612
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: kind of couldn't get over the idea of well making

613
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: making art is a war in and of itself, and

614
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: like how do you do that in your in your

615
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 3: own being? Like how do you? Oh, I don't know.

616
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: It's really really inspiring.

617
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a good one. It's a it's one

618
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: for the books for sure. Like it's just a it's

619
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: an MVP for me.

620
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, I love that. Okay, thirteen a little bit

621
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: of a pivot. What is your greatest regret?

622
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Getting deep? Guys, Yeah, we're going dark, Kate, It's okay.

623
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm an artist, I'm a songwriter, Like yeah, honey,

624
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: Like well, I mean there's definitely some regrettable outfits from

625
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: like the times, like two thousand and eight outfits, I'm

626
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: for sure make the list.

627
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 6: We were all there, it was it was like cool,

628
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 6: I guess that's what everyone was wearing. You know, every

629
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 6: time I put leggings on my five year old so

630
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 6: that she can wear a skirt.

631
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, what were we doing?

632
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: Why did we is about five year olds?

633
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

634
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we absolutely did. I yeah that, I mean,

635
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: it's I'm glad to know I'm not alone that like

636
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: everybody else feels that way. But oh yeah, I feel

637
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: like I mean, on a more like serious note as

638
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: far as regrets go, Like I would just say, and

639
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm curious if if you guys feel this way too.

640
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: I think every every woman in you know, in entertainment

641
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: but just in general, probably feels this way to some degree.

642
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Like I wish I had trusted myself more, like just

643
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: cultivated a little bit more of instead of thinking that

644
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: like a bunch of dudes in positions of power like

645
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: knew better than me what was right for me, whether

646
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: it was like career wise or you know, like do

647
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: you speak that way?

648
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 5: Yeah?

649
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely, every day.

650
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And we were talking about this the last time

651
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: the three of us gathered together, this idea that you

652
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: have to go through all these things to become the

653
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: person that you are. And it's really interesting to hold

654
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 3: I think two things true. Right, That you regret that

655
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: you got pushed around or didn't trust your gut, and

656
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: that the things you went through made you exactly who

657
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: you are. Because when you hit the moment where you

658
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: say it's me and what I know that I trust, like,

659
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: it's a priceless place.

660
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: To arrive at.

661
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, OI like it's hard to it's hard to

662
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: hold those two things true simultaneously.

663
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: I think you're so right. You're so right. It is

664
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: it's both of those at once. And you wouldn't be

665
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: where you are now if it wasn't for all those

666
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: experiences and stuff. But and I do think it's one

667
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: of those things unfortunately, Like I think I'm learning that

668
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: learning to trust yourself is something you can't just like

669
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: put somebody through a crash course and teach them in

670
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: school or whatever like you have to. It's it's like

671
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: it's living life, you know, it's the journey.

672
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but your experience in the music industry, you know,

673
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: when we're talking about people telling us what to do

674
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 4: from the TV side of things, like there is a

675
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: department that tells us what to wear, there is a

676
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: department that tells us how to do our hair and makeup,

677
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: There is a department that tells us what to say.

678
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: There's a department that tells us where to stand in

679
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: the industry. Who were the voices that were influencing the

680
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 4: decisions you were making?

681
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 5: Great questions.

682
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's less like I feel like it's less

683
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: sort of obvious than in TV because it is a

684
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: lot more And Joey, I don't know if you feel

685
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: this way, like it's a lot more fluid. It's kind

686
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: of it's a lot less like structured, you know, the

687
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: music business. But I mean there were guys in my

688
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: band who I had hired, who like would tell me

689
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: I remember this guy that I'd hired literally like said

690
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: to me, oh, well, you know, I think, like, you know,

691
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: Gibson was going to give me a free guitar because

692
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: I was playing, you know, all these songs on the

693
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 1: show and TV and you know, on on the road

694
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: and stuff. And he was like, well, you're not you know, really,

695
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're really a good enough guitar

696
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: player for like this kind of guitar. So maybe you

697
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: want to get like, you know, low version, you know,

698
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: like stuff like though, yes, And I'm like, why didn't

699
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: we just I heard this guy on the spot like

700
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: what a clown? Yeah? But instead I'm like this kid

701
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: you know from Ohio little like people. Oh no, And

702
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, I guess I guess you're right.

703
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: Maybe I should just you know. So it's stuff like that.

704
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: But it's people in people at the label, people songwriters

705
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: and producers. And by the way, I've also I've been

706
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: lucky to work with so many amazing you know, guys

707
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: and girls, but you know men like who are incredible,

708
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: who like it, empowered me and propped me up and

709
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: really helped me kind of find my voice. But there

710
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: were definitely a share of people, you know, who thought

711
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: they should weigh in on stuff where you're.

712
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: Like maybe not, yeah, no, no, the scales are full here,

713
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: we don't want your weight.

714
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 3: Yeah. I also think it's really interesting because we've talked

715
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: a lot about this, like the great male friendships in

716
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: our life versus the ones who we'd love to like,

717
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 3: you know, shoot into the atmosphere and space canon. And

718
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 3: I think there's really something too. When you have healthy

719
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 3: relationships and you see the dynamics of those, you can

720
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: spot what's not healthy. And in communities, you know, particularly

721
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: in music, film, TV that are so male dominated, you

722
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 3: see the way that guy would never talk to any

723
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: of the men in the room the way he talked

724
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: to you, but he'll talk to you that way, and

725
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: you see how the dynamics are different. It's like, you know,

726
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: even with the World Cup, everybody talking about what happened

727
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: to Jenny Hermoso, and it's like the head of the

728
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: Spanish Soccer Federation never would have grabbed a male soccer

729
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: player by the face and tried to open mouth kiss him,

730
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: like it just wouldn't have happened. And so it's a

731
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: really it's an interesting thing to learn how to navigate

732
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: the reality of the dynamics we experience and take them

733
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 3: seriously and also not be like irritated all the time.

734
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: You because you have to figure out how to enjoy

735
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: your life, and you're also supposed to be charming and

736
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: you can't be negative.

737
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: And it's like it's like.

738
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: We have to juggle all these that they just don't

739
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: have to juggle, and it's wild.

740
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: It's wild. Yeah, it's absolutely, absolutely wild. Like yeah, I

741
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: but it's definitely. Yeah, it's like inspiring to see how

742
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: other women navigate it. And because yeah, like you said,

743
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: it's like you can't let them, you know, you can't

744
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: just sort of say like, okay, well I guess I'm

745
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: just you know, gonna resign myself to whatever now because

746
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: this is the reality. It's like, no, we have to

747
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: work to change that. And you know, it's a it's

748
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: a lot of work, but it's yeah, it's worth it.

749
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: It's just it's how would.

750
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 5: You practically have done that? Differently in a way that

751
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 5: felt like you were being honoring to yourself but not

752
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 5: I guess, well, I don't know. I mean, what's the

753
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 5: what's the way to be able to handle situations like

754
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: that when you feel young and intimidated and you want

755
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: to do things the right way, but you also want

756
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 5: to honor yourself and your own art, but you also

757
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 5: want to take advice. I mean, that's that's such a

758
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 5: tough balance to strike. How do you feel like you

759
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 5: would have done it differently?

760
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: That's such a good question because you're right, like you

761
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: don't want to overcorrect and then be like I'm the

762
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: boss here, you know, I know what's best because I

763
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: was really green, like in a lot of ways, it

764
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: was like some of my first tours and you're so like,

765
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: I was so young. There was a lot to learn

766
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 1: from other people. But I think it would have been

767
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: I think like I wish I would have sort of

768
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: been able to take a step back and ask myself,

769
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: like who am I taking advice from? And you know,

770
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 1: do I want to be? You know, I think there's

771
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: that some sort of quote that has language about like

772
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: don't take advice from people who you know whose life

773
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: you don't want or who you don't want to sort

774
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: of yeah, like or you don't respect or whatever. And

775
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: so I think I just wish I would have sort

776
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: of been less afraid to take up space and sort

777
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: of claim my seat at the table, as like, you know,

778
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I was like, it

779
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: is my name on the side of this bus, and

780
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: I did, you know, work really hard and you know,

781
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 1: drive around, you know, in my parents minivan to play

782
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: a billion shows and high school and stuff to get

783
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: to this point. And so I think it would have

784
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: just it would have been cool to sort of I

785
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: wish I would have just understood that I had the

786
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: authority to sort of make certain decisions. And but I

787
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: think that there is a real people pleasing tendency, especially

788
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: like being from the Midwest, there's such a sort of

789
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: like self deprecating, people pleasing you know, culture around like well,

790
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm just here for whatever, Like I'm okay with anything.

791
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: What do you guys want to do? Like my husband jokes,

792
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: they're like trying to decide what to order for dinner.

793
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: Hanging out with our family is like a nightmare because

794
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: we're all like, whatever, yeah, whatever you want, What do

795
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: you want?

796
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 5: What do you want? What do you want?

797
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly so? But but you're right, Joy, it's a

798
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: hard needle to thread, like because you want to go

799
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: in with a humility that really is open to absorbing

800
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: the you know, advice and experience of other people who

801
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: do know better than you, but also like a trust

802
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: in yourself just knowing like I'm okay right where I am,

803
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: even if I'm not. Like, just because you're not the

804
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: best yet doesn't mean you don't belong you know. That

805
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: was like the thing I wish I would have sort

806
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: of been hipped to.

807
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: You know.

808
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: That took a while to cate.

809
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, well, the actual question I was supposed to

810
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 5: ask you what's is? What's something you really dislike? It

811
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 5: sounds like it's bad.

812
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean definitely for sure, like immature dudes thinking they

813
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: know and telling you how. It is definitely at the

814
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: top of the list.

815
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 5: So annoying.

816
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: You know.

817
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love a good just question back, like, could

818
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 5: you clarify that? What do you mean by that?

819
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: I was gonna say I found I got to hot

820
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: by an older chick. She's like, just ask why, right,

821
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: Because if someone tells you something condescending, like you shouldn't

822
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: be playing that guitar, right, they're throwing down a gallet.

823
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 4: And when you say why, you're not being a bitch, right,

824
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 4: you're not really challenging it. You're just curious. Tell me

825
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: more about that. And nine times out of ten people

826
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 4: will walk it back. They'll be like, you know what,

827
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: never mind, ignore me, you do you? But if they

828
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: have a legitimate reason why, that's when they elaborate. And

829
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 4: so sometimes just asking people why is a great tool.

830
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: It's a good tool. That why such a good yeah,

831
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: just like just to just kind of yeah, it puts

832
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 1: them on the spot, but not in a way that's

833
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: like rude or combative. Yeah, and not combative at all,

834
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: but that it goes back.

835
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 5: To the curiosity that you were talking about. If you're

836
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: just curious, like huh, I'm And also you know that

837
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 5: there's the humility in that too of what you were

838
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: saying that you want to be open to. Maybe I'm

839
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 5: not seeing everything that I don't see all sides of

840
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: the picture, so I'm interested why. So yeah, if they

841
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 5: have a good reason, it's it would be nice to

842
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 5: hear it anyway, And if they don't, then they'll probably

843
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 5: back off.

844
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: Kick rocks. Good.

845
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 4: All right, we're going to crawl out of darkness. Now

846
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: we're getting out. Number fifteen is what or who is

847
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 4: the greatest love of your life?

848
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: That yes, definitely crawling out of darkness. I mean my husband,

849
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: Brett and my dog coming in at a close second,

850
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, he's I met him. I think I

851
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: met him like right towards the tail end of you know,

852
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: when I was living in Wilmington and stuff, and so

853
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: I know he's like he was in Paris last time

854
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: we were there. Joy and so y'all have met and

855
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: I think, like I can't remember at different times. It's

856
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: been so long. We've been together almost fifteen years.

857
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: How did you guys meet?

858
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: We met through He runs a nonprofit and we met

859
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: through that because we had a mutual friend who was

860
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: working with him on the nonprofit, and he was my

861
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: friend from music. He's a musician, and he was Brett's

862
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: friend from lacrosse because at the time Brett was playing

863
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: professional lacrosse, which honestly I didn't even know existed, because

864
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm like the least already athletic reson ever lived. I

865
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: wish I was. But yeah, so that that was how

866
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: we met. And he came to one of my shows,

867
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: and just like he was so different than any other

868
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: guy that I had ever dated, Like I'd always dated

869
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: kind of like introspective, like artsy types and like good people.

870
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: But but like, I don't know if you guys ever

871
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: experienced this, but I had a boyfriend for part of

872
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: the time that I was working, you know, in TV,

873
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: who was like really jealous about the fact that you know,

874
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: you have like a TV boyfriend and that you're like

875
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: someone else on TV, which is so when it's your job,

876
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Like it's so silly because you're like, oh my god,

877
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: how do I explain to you that this is work?

878
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: But but and I get it, like it's I'm sure

879
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: for some people who aren't working in that space, it's

880
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: not ideal. But my husband was just like he was

881
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: so just down to hang. He's very much like he's

882
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: sure of himself. He always like lifted me up, supported

883
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: my dreams, and yeah, like just it's so easy, you know,

884
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: and such a relief to just be like.

885
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 4: Oh, that's a great way to describe your my partner's

886
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 4: a relief. Yeah, it's nice.

887
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: That's so nice. Yeah, it's a gift for sure to

888
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: have that like it is. It is. It's a relief.

889
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: It's like a breath of fresh air. Like whoa, thank God,

890
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I love that.

891
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: Okay, that sort of segues beautifully into the next question,

892
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 3: which is when and where were you happiest. Oh, maybe

893
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 3: it has to do with with.

894
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: More of this. Yeah, like gosh, I mean I think

895
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: I have to say, like, I mean, I feel like

896
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm probably the happiest I've ever been now in you know,

897
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: in the season I'm in Like we yeah, like we

898
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: got a dog finally during lockdown and stuff because we

899
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: weren't traveling as much and we're just like those those

900
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: dog parents who don't have kid yet, who are just

901
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: like have meat snacks by our nightstand and everything she

902
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: wants she is. But yeah, like my whole family was

903
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: out here in LA for the holidays and it was

904
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: like one of those beautiful La sunsets, and we all

905
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: went down to the beach and brought our dog and

906
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is it, man, this

907
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: is where it's at. Like it doesn't get better, you know,

908
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I feel I feel super super grateful

909
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: to be able to say that, like just yeah, cool.

910
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 5: Love which talent would you most like to have.

911
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I feel like I would probably pick

912
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: something that's super opposite of like I got all the

913
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: artsy things and none of the you know, like practical ones. Yeah,

914
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: like the like, no one is going to want to

915
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: pick me for their team for whatever the game. It

916
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: is not even close to being my forte. Like I

917
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: would probably have to say something like surfing, because there's

918
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: absolutely no circumstance under which that is something that that's

919
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,959
Speaker 1: actually probably something I should have said for like something

920
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: you'll never do again, because uh, Brett surfs a little bit.

921
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: And you know, we had some friends I was designing

922
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: sunglasses for Oakley, like a long time ago, and a

923
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: bunch of like the friends who were a part of that,

924
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: Like heng were these women who are professional surfers and

925
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: they're like the coolest people, like so much cooler than

926
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: I could ever hope to be. And you know, I

927
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: remember being like like having a couple drinks and saying

928
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: to bro, like, do you wish that I was cool

929
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: like them?

930
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: And prevent.

931
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: You know, you wish that I was an athlete? And

932
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: he's like, what are you like, honey?

933
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 6: You know how that I don't know, I know exactly

934
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 6: what you're talking about.

935
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: I feel that way about motorcycle chicks. Oh yeah, I'm like,

936
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 4: oh they look cool. I'm not cool, but I do

937
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: you want me to be cool? No? The answer is no,

938
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 4: just no.

939
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: Oh right, but that's always a thought that you know.

940
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: But then he's like, Okay, do you want me to be, like,

941
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: you know, an amazing singer songwriter? And I'm like, oh,

942
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: of course not so, of course not. I'm like absolutely not.

943
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: Only one person in this relationship is telling the story

944
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: of the fights, and it's gonna be me. Okay, that's

945
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: perfect obsessed.

946
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 4: I like that. Okay, if you could change one thing

947
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: about yourself, what would it be.

948
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's gotta be related to like my perfectionism,

949
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, totally weigh too hard on myself. Like so,

950
00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: so it's something that I feel like I'm getting better at.

951
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: Like actually, I like did a big intensive French learning

952
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: journey this like these past five years, but really just

953
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: this past year, I like went crazy and did this

954
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: sprint to get this diploma. It's like a nerdy a

955
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: language nerd thing, but it's like a diploma proficiency in

956
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: the language. And it was such a good lesson for

957
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: me in helping to temper my perfectionism because like, because

958
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: it's literally impossible to be perfect at learning a second language,

959
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: like you sound like an idiot for like a long time,

960
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: and you'll never be perfect at it, right because you

961
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: can't ever substitute growing up as something being like your

962
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: mother tongue or whatever. So that has helped me chip

963
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: away at it, but it is still just like I

964
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: used to cry and when I was a kid and

965
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: I would color outside of the lines and coloring books

966
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: like such a no. Yeah, so that I wish I

967
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: could be more like give myself more space to be

968
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: bad at something or to mess up, or to to

969
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: make a mistake or to lie about wearing hair extensions.

970
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 4: You know.

971
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel that in my bones, in my bones.

972
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: It's as an artist, right, Like why is that so

973
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: common for so many of us?

974
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Okay, Well, we're gonna we're gonna go positive.

975
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 3: And the next question is what do you consider to

976
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 3: be your greatest achievement?

977
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: Oh, greatest achievement? Man? Well, and it's so funny because

978
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: it's so hard for me to even like say that

979
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: I achieve something like, you know, because.

980
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm so because you're a perfectionist.

981
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: Self deprecating, Like my friends call me self deprecate, like Kate,

982
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: because they're like, you really need just to cool it.

983
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: They'll like, but I think, you know, I I would

984
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: have to say, like, probably just being able to get

985
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: out of my own way enough to share the art

986
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: that like that I wanted to share, you know, and

987
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: to sort of navigate through some of the stuff that

988
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: was a real challenge in order to get to a

989
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: place where I was able to, you know, say what

990
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to say artistically and share it with people

991
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: who hopefully, you know, we were able to like find

992
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: it inspiring or whatever. Like I really it's the most

993
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: meaningful thing in the world to me. When like I

994
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: hear from someone that like my song helped them or

995
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: you know, that it inspired them or something like that

996
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: is something I always wanted. I always wanted to be

997
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: on the other side of that. When I was a kid,

998
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, listening to music that helped me like navigate

999
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: the stuff I was going through my life. I was like, yeah, man,

1000
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: if I could just be the person that someone says

1001
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: that to someday, you know, if somebody yeah in person,

1002
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: and so that is probably yeah, I would probab I say,

1003
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: that feels like my greatest achievement. Like it really feels

1004
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: good to feel like you contributed something, even in a

1005
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: very very small way, you know, to helping somebody satter day.

1006
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: Your me Too song, Like that was such a time

1007
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 4: because every day you'd wake up and be like, what

1008
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 4: am I going to see about myself in the media?

1009
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 4: And it was I was pregnant and like hormonal anyway,

1010
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 4: and it was such an awful time. And you put

1011
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 4: out that me Too song that was so angry and

1012
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 4: it felt so good and I was just so proud

1013
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 4: of you, but also like relieved that someone else was

1014
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: saying the words that I didn't necessarily have the ability

1015
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 4: to articulate. That was like that was perfect timing and

1016
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 4: the perfect song.

1017
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: Thank you? That is that is so meaningful in so

1018
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: many ways. I mean, I you know, it was a

1019
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: it was a wild time like all of us. It

1020
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: was like it you know, was really and it was

1021
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: so like there was such an onslaught of just yeah,

1022
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: of like panicking of like what's going to happen and

1023
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: who's going to say what? And who's going to be

1024
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: mad at me? And you know all this stuff. But

1025
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: That's always been my That's always been the way I've

1026
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: been able to be the most honest is writing songs

1027
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: because I'm like a you know, like a socially awkward

1028
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: introvert who you know and so, but that is that

1029
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: it's so meaningful. So thank you so much for saying that.

1030
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: That was That was definitely that was probably one of

1031
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: the most honest songs I've written to date. That was

1032
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: was no no bs there.

1033
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the truth. Belt you after all of your achievements. Okay,

1034
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 5: you die and you get to come back as a

1035
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 5: person or a thing? What do you what is it

1036
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 5: going to be.

1037
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: A person or a thing? Oh my god? No, Like

1038
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I should have some answer. That's like,

1039
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know.

1040
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 5: No, there's no pressure, no expectation.

1041
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: Who made a massive difference in the world, you know,

1042
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: But this is like probably lame. But I don't know.

1043
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: If you guys are fans of Nate and Jeremiah.

1044
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 3: From The Biggest.

1045
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: Just like I just I would like to come back

1046
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: as them as a couple, as a family obviously, like

1047
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: their children are beautiful, all of it, all of it. Okay, yes,

1048
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: thank you.

1049
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 3: The way they mood board Oh the way Poppy picks

1050
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 3: out when.

1051
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: We're talking about you, guys, I live in a cave Nate.

1052
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: Burg Is and Jeremiah Brent, who are two of the

1053
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: greatest interior designers that are married.

1054
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 4: All right, y'all are talking about like y'all are first

1055
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 4: name Yeah, and I'm like, Nate, who did I'm Nate

1056
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 4: burg O.

1057
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 1: My god, it's okay.

1058
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: I can't wait for us to get a chateau. You

1059
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: need to have them come do it.

1060
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 4: I thought you two are on a first name basis.

1061
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: No, we're definitely not. We are definitely not. I don't

1062
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: know why I just said it like that, but but

1063
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: maybe we will be on it maybe some day manifesting.

1064
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 4: It right, Yeah, and when they ask you about your extensions,

1065
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 4: you'll be honest ill, those guys were do you have

1066
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 4: something in your life that is just so easy that

1067
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 4: you know it's where you belong?

1068
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: I mean I think this is a big noe dah. Yeah,

1069
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: I mean I think, you know, writing music and singing

1070
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: for sure is is the top of the It's so

1071
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: just like I don't know. I always was like people

1072
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't know it because I've really like grown a lot

1073
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: from just forcing myself to be on stage in front

1074
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: of a bunch of people for the beast like fifteen

1075
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: twenty years of my life. But I was like a

1076
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: very shy kid, like no one would have thought like, oh,

1077
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: Kate definitely wants to be the center of attention, you know,

1078
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: definitely not not my vibe at all. But something about

1079
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: like when I'm in the middle of singing a song

1080
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: on stage, like I can do that, you know, like

1081
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: I can totally do that. I can sing in front

1082
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: of people. I can I can write a song, you know,

1083
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: and I can say so much more writing a song

1084
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: than I can, you know, sometimes just in an honest

1085
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: conversation or I'm trying to get better at that. But yeah,

1086
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I guess that is a little

1087
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: bit of a no dub, but it Yeah, it just

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00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: feels like, you know, where I can do my thing

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Speaker 1: without feeling like, you know, the noise of the world

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Speaker 1: doesn't really like interfere or something.

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Speaker 4: Well, does this seem like a natural place for you to,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, make an announcement.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes it does. Actually, it feels perfect,

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00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm really excited that this is just it's

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00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: really really fun to be announcing this on I just

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00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: kind of like had this thought last minute this because

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00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: the timing is crazy. So basically I, oh my god,

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm like nervous. It's like, well, so okay. So we've

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00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: been working on this for three years, and so it

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00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: feels like so crazy to be announcing it to the world.

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00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: But I felt like the fans of our show, who

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Speaker 1: we won't name, but the Drama Queens fans are the

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00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: best fans and the best fans of the world, the

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00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: best fans in the entire world, a mixing, most supportive crew,

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00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: and so I felt like they all deserve to be

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Speaker 1: the first to know. So I have a new band

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00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: with Mike Grubs from Waki Waki from our show, and

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00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: Grubs and I have been working on this new band

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00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: for three years and we are finally ready to start

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Speaker 1: sharing this music with everybody. The band is called Your

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00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: Future Ghost and it's so much fun. It's like it's

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00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: like the dirty indie rock album we've always wanted to make.

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Speaker 4: My god, I'm so excited.

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00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 4: I'm so red, Like I really want to be back

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00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: at that warehouse that we used to hang out in

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00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: all the time which shall not be named in this Yes,

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00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 4: but I just want us to be back there. Yeah,

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00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 4: they're playing together.

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Speaker 3: When do we get music, Kate?

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Speaker 1: I okay, so I'm going to send you guys, I

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00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: think I maybe did. I'm going to send you a

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00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: secret link to hear some of it, just because I'm

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00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: so excited for my friends to hear this. But I

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00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: think we are like very close to being ready to

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00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: share music to the point where like when this airs,

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00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when it's, but like we might even

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00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: have a pre save for a single. Yeah, but we are,

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00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: like we have a little sign up on our website

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00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: for to be the first to know when everything drops

1131
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: just your future ghost dot com. And uh yeah, our

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00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: like our insta is just your future Ghost.

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Speaker 4: I'm following that, yeah right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so excited you guys. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for letting me share this with with these amazing listeners,

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01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: these wonderful fans. First, because I've been like bursting at

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Speaker 1: the seams every time we've been, you know, making music.

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01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: Every time we write a new song, We're like, oh

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01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: my god, I can't wait to tell everybody. And yeah,

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01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: and we're and we're ready to go it's uh, it's

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Speaker 1: really fun. It's like fun music in a way that

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I felt like we both just like

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01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: have permission to be like and to say and to

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01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: like make the type of music that you know, we

1145
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: really that neither of us really had figured out how

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01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: to do like on our own, and so I can't

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: wait for you.

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Speaker 4: So I just want to say right now, I just

1149
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 4: followed you on Instagram. There, you guys are only following

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01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 4: one person and you have three followers right now. You're

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01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: about to have four and five followers right now for it.

1152
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 4: And I feel real snobby that we have gotten in

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01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 4: at the jump here.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to end. I think the only person

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01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: we're following is Popeye's Chicken, because there was like stop

1156
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: and it is pop Eyes is true? That is true.

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: The good sandwich, you know I got.

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01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 5: I love that you got five followers.

1159
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: Now, thank you for sharing that with us.

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01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 4: I mean when you texted us that you wanted to

1161
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 4: share it on the show, we all were pomped. Oh,

1162
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 4: you guys know, it's fun that we get to all

1163
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: celebrate each other this many years out from working together.

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01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 4: You know, we always want to make a big deal

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Speaker 4: out of each other's accomplishments.

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Speaker 1: It is it's so well, it means so much to me,

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Speaker 1: and I know Grubs feels the same way, like that,

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01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, the connection and we you know, we ran

1169
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: in some of the same circles, but we connected through

1170
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: you know that the whole community and this this like

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01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: it really is special. How just supportive and you know,

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01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: like it's it's such a wonderful group people. And I

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: feel like it's just I feel like even more connected

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01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: to everybody and excited about, you know, then than when

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01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: we were all working together, because there was like there

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01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: was some crazy stuff going on, and it just feels

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Speaker 1: so it's it's really gratifying, and it's so cool to

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01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: be able to you know, share all of these things

1179
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: together and and celebrate all of you Like Hillary, I

1180
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:25,479
Speaker 1: can't wait to read your new book.

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01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 4: Joy.

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01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: Your Strawberry song is like such a bop. I'm just jamming,

1183
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: like I love. I love seeing all the projects that

1184
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: you guys are doing too, and it's just like, yeah,

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01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: it's it's the best. It's the best like group of

1186
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: cheerleaders for each other, which is really like what the

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01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: world needs more of.

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Speaker 5: You know. We have two quick questions left for you.

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01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 5: Should we throw them out before before we wrap up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can do them like rapid fire.

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01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Question twenty two, I mean, I really do feel like

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01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: we just peaked and I'm thrilled about it. And I

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01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: know We've asked you extra questions, so I'm sorry, but

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01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: we still will get through this list.

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Speaker 1: Question twenty two is I.

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Speaker 3: Think we know the answer. Where would you most like

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Speaker 3: to live?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, the south of it, somewhere our chateau.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 5: And then what is your most treasured possession?

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01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: Ooh, treasure? My most treasured possession. When I got married,

1203
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: my mom made me a garter out of pieces of

1204
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: her wedding dress, which was like, that's amazing, an amazing,

1205
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: beautiful heirloom.

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01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 4: Yes, I love it.

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01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's the first thing that comes to mind.

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01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 4: So cool. Good, that's an amazing answer. Your family sounds

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01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 4: so nice, Kate.

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01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 1: They are there, they're the best, They're amazing. I love

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Speaker 1: so much.

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01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There, I don't deserve them. I got there, so you do.

1214
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 5: We don't deserve you. You're so great. Thank you so

1215
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 5: much for joining us and spending time and choosing us

1216
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 5: to be your outlet to make your big announcement. Yeah,

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01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 5: we love you, we miss you.

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01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: I think about it.

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01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: It's like you you're talking about how much you love

1220
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 3: your family, and I'm like, man, we're so lucky that

1221
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: outside of like our you know, actual family circles, we've

1222
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: built this big friend family and what's come of it

1223
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: and your new project coming out of it and us

1224
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: all getting to be together, like, oh my god, this

1225
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 3: is so cool.

1226
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: It is it's it's so incredibly cool you guys. I

1227
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: can't tell you how much I like, how how much

1228
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: I was excited about this, and how fun it is

1229
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: to chat with all of you and see you all

1230
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: and like just thank you so much for having me on.

1231
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,959
Speaker 1: This is truly like, this is so much fun.

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01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, drap A queens, make sure that you're

1233
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 4: following your future ghost go pre save anything you can

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01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,919
Speaker 4: pre save at the moment. And then we all want

1235
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 4: t shirts like We're Merchant. Guys will be getting We're

1236
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 4: merch whorse, we just love it.

1237
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: Getting all the swag and all the yes. For sure,

1238
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: we will not leave you guys alone about it. We

1239
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: are We're so excited. Well, we'll be sending you all

1240
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: the all the free your future ghosts to all the yeah, yes,

1241
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: we can't wait.

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 4: Awesome, right you guys, there's been another episode of twenty

1243
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 4: three Questions with your Drama Queens. We'll see you next week.

1244
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 5: Hey, thanks for listening.

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01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

1246
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens oh.

1247
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 4: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

1248
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: See you next time.

1249
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama.

1250
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: Girl Drama Girl, all about them high school Queens.

1251
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 5: We'll take you for a ride at our comic girl

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01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 5: Sharing for the right teams.

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01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 2: Drama Queens, leise my go up girl fashion with your

1254
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: tough girl, you could sit with us

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Speaker 5: Girl Drama Queens, Drama Queense, Drama Queens Drama Drama Queens

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Speaker 5: Drama Queens