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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. She's beautiful on the inside

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Speaker 1: and the outside. She's young, she's healthy, a college student

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Speaker 1: who actually wants to help children when she is through

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Speaker 1: with her education. She is so alive. You know, there

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Speaker 1: are people that just kind of like through life, and

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Speaker 1: then there are those people. When they walk in the room,

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Speaker 1: it's electric. You want to go talk to them, You

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Speaker 1: want to be around them like a moth and the flame.

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Speaker 1: That's this girl, Kaya Whetstone. Can somebody explain to me

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Speaker 1: why this gorgeous young co ed is dumped blue in

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Speaker 1: girl Kaya died and as of right now, no justice,

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Speaker 1: no justice. My twins are fifteen, they're about to start driving.

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Speaker 1: We practice every day at night in the rain on

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Speaker 1: the interstate. You name it. Why Because I want to

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Speaker 1: protect them. I want them ready. I want to save

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Speaker 1: their lives in any way I can. But should you

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Speaker 1: be afraid every time your son or daughter gets into

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Speaker 1: an uber? Yeah? I said it, get sent an Uber

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Speaker 1: and you know, step out of that uber, you get

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Speaker 1: pushed out like a sack of potatoes. I Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us

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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and series six sem one eleven.

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Speaker 1: I also want to tell you how I found out

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Speaker 1: about Kaya. Does the name Alex Murdog ring a bell? Well?

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Speaker 1: It should Alex Murdog and South Carolina, the heir to

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Speaker 1: and son Paul. What does that have to do with Kaya? Well?

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Speaker 1: I was there for the duration waiting on the verdict

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Speaker 1: and the Senate saying broadcasting live from in front of

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Speaker 1: the Cournhouse every single day, looking in the back of

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Speaker 1: Alex Murdog's head the rest of the time. One day,

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Speaker 1: I was afraid I was going to be late for court,

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Speaker 1: and I was running out of the holiday inn. We

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Speaker 1: were only there one night one night at that particular hotel,

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Speaker 1: but I went, you know what, I stopped. She had

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Speaker 1: I help you? And This was Kaia's aunt that worked

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Speaker 1: at the holiday inn, begging in tears, running out into

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Speaker 1: a hot parking lot, chasing me to try and get justice.

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Speaker 1: Where are we living that you have to chase somebody

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Speaker 1: beautiful young girl. Everything is completely best awkwards that she

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Speaker 1: had to come running to try to hand me this

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Speaker 1: stack of papers to try to get somebody to listen

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Speaker 1: to these facts. Well let's do just that. Take a

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Speaker 1: listen now to our friends at wvu E. She's my

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Speaker 1: best friend.

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Speaker 2: I brought her here to graduate, not to come back

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Speaker 3: Miranda Farrand holds a picture of her daughter, Kya Whetstone,

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Speaker 3: a twenty one year old University of New Orleans student

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Speaker 1: She is a precious angel and I will not rest

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Speaker 1: She's mine. Dropped off by a neighbor. That's certainly a

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Speaker 1: euphemism putting perfume on the pig. Dropped off more like

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Speaker 1: pushed out of the car. And what more do we know?

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Speaker 1: That really struck me when her mother says I brought

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Speaker 1: Listen to Wyff.

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Speaker 4: A University of New Orleans student from Bamberg, South Carolina,

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Speaker 4: Jordan Whetstone. A coworker posted on Facebook that Whetstone got

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Speaker 1: Miranda Whetstone. This is Kaya's mother. First of all, is Whetstone,

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Speaker 1: I am so sorry the torture that you have gone

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Speaker 2: This is like nine o'clock in the morning our time

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Speaker 1: You know, very rarely have I been left speechless, but

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Speaker 1: hearing your story with me, renowned attorney no stranger to

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Speaker 1: the courtroom is Renee Rockwell on Facebook Renee dot Rockwell. Renee,

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Speaker 1: this is your turf, New Orleans, Louisiana. And I believe

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Speaker 1: all of this occurred around the time of Marty Raw

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Speaker 1: and that is one of the reasons Kaya was out

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Speaker 1: not Kaya Kaya actually was studying. I think it was

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Speaker 1: I have dealt with so many parents that get this news.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard it told the way? Miranda Whetstone

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Speaker 6: No, you can't. It's unimaginable. Nancy and Kaya. As I

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Speaker 6: a great grandmother, a mother, a little brother. Those are

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Speaker 6: the kind of things that you do not see in

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Speaker 6: a courtroom, Nancy, familial support.

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Speaker 1: This girl had everything, everything taken away from her. Take

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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at WCIV.

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Speaker 7: Kaya was brought to a city hospital at six forty

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Speaker 7: one Saturday morning by a man who told security he

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Speaker 7: was an uber driver. A nurse said Kaya looked blue

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Speaker 7: and her pupils were fixed and dilated, but she showed

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Speaker 7: no physical signs of injury. Kaya was declared dead about

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Speaker 1: Whoa wait a minute, Wait a minute, so she gets

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, the cole part in joining me crimeonline dot

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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter. She was still alive when she was

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Speaker 1: Do I have the time right? The coal partner, She

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Speaker 6: She was dumped off by the uber driver at six

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Speaker 1: Now, when missus Whetstone, who was joining us, Kaya's mom,

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Speaker 1: called her daughter's cell phone, she didn't get any of

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Speaker 1: that information. She's just told, point blank, first thing in

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Speaker 1: She then learned, take a listen to our friend Olivia

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Speaker 2: I am asking anyone that knows any saying about what

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Speaker 8: They have to read about it in the news that

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Speaker 8: Kya's pupils were dilated and that her face was blue,

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Speaker 1: She found it out on line. Mss Whetstone, how did

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Speaker 1: And you had to read online that she had been

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Speaker 2: Like she was trash, basically like she was just trash.

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Speaker 1: put his money where his mouth is, Doctor William Maroney joining,

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Speaker 1: US medical examiner, toxicologist, pathologist, author of American Narcan. Doctor Moroney,

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Speaker 1: let me just start with one simple question. Why would

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Speaker 1: Because you're not breathing, your blood blood doesn't get the

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Speaker 1: Doctor moroney, did you hear the timeline? She's dumped out

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because we have narcan everywhere in America. It's with

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Speaker 1: Hold on, I've got to explain why I care what Prince,

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Speaker 5: And here's what I'll say. This is going to sound

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Speaker 1: You're saying in her toxicology report she had thirty nine nanograms.

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Speaker 5: And you only need three to die.

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Speaker 1: She was odain. This woman like, if I had to

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Speaker 1: This girl didn't even know where to get sentanel even

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Speaker 1: isn't that right, Miss Whetstone. She had been out at

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're right, Nancy. She actually had worked that day

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Speaker 1: Yeah, take a listen to our friends at wc IV.

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Speaker 7: I spoke to two of her cousins who were very

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Speaker 10: So I just we don't really know. I just parted.

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Speaker 1: Okay, help me out here, Renee Rockwell, I want you

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Speaker 1: You didn't know them, you never met them in your life.

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Speaker 1: Renee Rockwell, this needs to be a murder charge based

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Speaker 6: You gotta wonder, Nancy, did somebody hand her a drink

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Speaker 1: They're taking their dam and time, aren't they?

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Speaker 6: And Nancy, where have we gotten in this society where

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Speaker 1: Just exactly they should be all over this law enforced. Okay,

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Speaker 1: You have to acknowledge and determine. Is it true? Is

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Speaker 11: On a Friday evening in New Orleans, South Carolina native

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Speaker 11: and Curran University of New Orleans student Kaya Whetstone and

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Speaker 11: her friend Juliette Or attend some parades. After the parades,

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Speaker 11: From there, Juliette Or tells the New Orleans Advocate, Whetstone

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Speaker 1: So here we are. It is one am. Everybody else

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Speaker 11: they're on the phone, Torres clearly here's the Uber driver

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Speaker 1: I just learned a lot. I just learned a lot.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's going to hell, but you know what, I want

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Speaker 1: Well it could have just been casual in that. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: he's my friend. He doesn't mind going. At one thirty

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Speaker 1: context of that. Joining me right now is Dan Corsentino

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Speaker 1: I know you have investigated all around the world as

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's number one. The timeline that you articulated certainly

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Speaker 12: doesn't favor the Uber driver here. Number two, the route

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Speaker 12: at this point in time in regards to uber, deals

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Speaker 12: with the pol Cason were in play in then tempt

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Speaker 12: specifically of this uber driver, what was his motive in

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Speaker 12: the end, Assuming that this young lady was alone in

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Speaker 12: the vehicle and there was no other party in the

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Speaker 12: vehicle worth.

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Speaker 1: Her exactly, we're learning a little bit more about her

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Speaker 1: route and the details surrounding her disappears for that period

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Speaker 1: of just a few hours where she ends up dump

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Speaker 1: like a sack of sugar, dead, soon to die, blue

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Speaker 1: in the face eyes the pupils dilated. Take a listen

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Speaker 1: to our friends at crime Online.

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Speaker 11: For the victim's mother, says Kyle Whtstone died twenty six

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Speaker 11: minutes after she was carelessly and recklessly dropped off and

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Speaker 11: left for dead. That uber and the unidentified driver who

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Speaker 11: dropped her daughter off the morning she died, showed disregard

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Speaker 11: for the child's life and are ultimately responsible for her death.

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Speaker 11: Kyle Wetstone called an uber. In the early morning hours

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Speaker 11: of February nineteen, twenty twenty two, a driver picked her

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Speaker 11: up in his twenty nineteen Toyota Camry from a parade

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Speaker 11: route in the New Orleans area and drove her to

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Speaker 11: her destination on the UNO campus. The uber driver escorted

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Speaker 11: Wetstone to a dorm room. Then both the driver and

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Speaker 11: Wetstone returned to his car and drove to another quote

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Speaker 11: undisclosed and undetermined unquote location. The lawsuit alleges the driver

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Speaker 11: at some point during the ride contributed to or caused

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Speaker 11: the harm that led to Wedstone's death. When the unnamed

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Speaker 11: uber driver took Wetstone to the hospital in New Orleans East,

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Speaker 11: he left without leaving his name or advance that led

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Speaker 11: to the medical emergency. She was dropped off at six

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Speaker 11: forty one am and pronounced dead at seven oh seven am.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace to missus Whetstone, this is

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Speaker 1: Tias trying to piece together everything that we're hearing. Do

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Speaker 1: you know, Mss Whetstone, whether a rape kit was performed

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Speaker 1: on Kaya.

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Speaker 2: I was told that there was a rape kit and

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Speaker 2: it was negative.

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Speaker 1: You are told that, doctor Maroney. Have you looked at

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Speaker 1: the autopsy report?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I have it in front of me. I'm looking

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Speaker 5: at all the different sections, but I'm phrenomenantly looking into

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Speaker 5: the lab.

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Speaker 1: Could you thumb through and tell me if you see

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Speaker 1: any indication that a rape kit was performed on Kaya

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Speaker 1: because what I'm zeroing in on, and this is to

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Speaker 1: Dan Arsantino and Renee Rockwell, high profile defense lawyer is

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Speaker 1: that time. So somehow she struck up a casual friendship

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Speaker 1: with the Uber driver. He walks her to her roommate's room,

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Speaker 1: walks her to her dorm room, they check on the dog,

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Speaker 1: and then the driver in Kaya go back to the

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Speaker 1: car right here, to an undisclosed location, and it says undetermined.

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Speaker 1: That's total BS because Uber has a record of everywhere

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Speaker 1: this driver goes, so they know where he went and

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Speaker 1: right there when she goes to the dorm room, when

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Speaker 1: she goes to check on her dog, she's fine. Then

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Speaker 1: within about three and a half hours she's blue in

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Speaker 1: the face. What happened at the undetermined location? What happened

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Speaker 1: right there? Renee? Where is New Orleans East Hospital as

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Speaker 1: it relates to the campus.

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Speaker 6: Nancy, I can't tell you exactly how far away that is,

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Speaker 6: but in New Orleans there's nothing too terribly far away.

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Speaker 6: I'd be curious if he brought her to the nearest hospital.

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Speaker 6: I want to make one point, though, Nancy. Just because

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Speaker 6: there's a negative rape KIP does not mean she was

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Speaker 6: not great.

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Speaker 12: Let's just remember.

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Speaker 2: That right now.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not plus Murni. Do you see anything in there

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Speaker 1: about a rape kit?

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Speaker 5: No? Really, the rape kit will be documentation from a

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Speaker 5: staff that's called criminal sexual assault nurse, the same nurse.

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Speaker 5: But the pathology external exam of the genitals says grossly unremarkable.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean there's not sperm.

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Speaker 5: Well no, but that will be found in the rape kit.

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Speaker 5: But you would you would say, is there assault on

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Speaker 5: her female parts? And according to this it doesn't look

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Speaker 5: like an assault. But that rape kit report will be

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Speaker 5: a separate document.

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Speaker 1: Do you have that, Miranda? Do you have the rape kit?

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Speaker 10: I do not.

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Speaker 1: And you can't just be the genitals. You have to

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Speaker 1: look at the mouth. You have to look at the

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Speaker 1: whole body to determine is their seamen, there is their

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Speaker 1: male DNA from perspiration for example, on her body. You

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Speaker 1: have to look everywhere to find that. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: hearing that that was done. What more do we know

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Speaker 1: about this victim? Take a listen to our friend Sidney Sumner.

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Speaker 9: Crime online kaya Jordan Whetstone moves from her native South

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00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 9: Carolina to Louisiana for college. Wetstone settles in New Orleans

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Speaker 9: and into her routine of psychology classes and a retail

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Speaker 9: job at the mall in a clothing store called Buckle.

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Speaker 9: Friend say Whetstone is set to graduate in the next

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Speaker 9: year with the dream of helping kids through therapy and more.

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Speaker 9: Whetstone was looking forward to her first Marty Gras. She

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Speaker 9: started her weekend in Metorie watching carnival parade festivities with

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Speaker 9: her friends and her boyfriend. Then it was on to

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Speaker 9: a night out on the town. On her Instagram, Wetstone

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Speaker 9: shared photos of the festivities and she captioned them, well,

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Speaker 9: my first Marti Gras parade did not disappoint. As the

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Speaker 9: night progressed. Whetstone ended up at her boyfriend's house and

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Speaker 9: later in the evening decided to go home. She called

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Speaker 9: a new.

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Speaker 1: Verse to doctor Sherry Schwartz joining US forensic psychologist specializing

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Speaker 1: in capital mitigation and victim advocacy. She's the author of

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Speaker 1: Criminal Behavior and also the book Where Law and Psychology Intersect.

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Speaker 1: You can find her at Trial Doc or at panthermitigation

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Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Sherry Schwartz, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: You know it's sticking in my mind like a brand

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Speaker 1: on skin. Do you like to party. That is what

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Speaker 1: the uber driver said to this little girl, a novice

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Speaker 1: to drugs and alcohol, do you like to party? My

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Speaker 1: rear end. Apparently he had a very different interpretation of

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Speaker 1: what it means to quote party.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, and what that sounds like to me, it's chilling,

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Speaker 13: because what it sounds like is that this is somebody

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Speaker 13: who is a predator, who has a depraved mind, and

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Speaker 13: he's got an ulterior motive, and he's sizing her up.

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Speaker 13: And you know, Nancy, I read in her obituary that

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Speaker 13: she never met a stranger, and she always made people

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Speaker 13: feel loved and accepted. And I imagine Kaya, a young

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Speaker 13: psychology student, getting into that car and seeing the uber

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Speaker 13: driver as a friend because she never met a stranger

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Speaker 13: and couldn't imagine, because she was so good, that anybody

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Speaker 13: else would be out to do her any harm.

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Speaker 1: Ms Wetstone, Why haven't there been charges brought in this case.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Abra driver meant to kill her.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that he treated her with an abandoned and

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Speaker 1: malignant heart. At the very least, this is a voluntary

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Speaker 1: manslar charge. At the least. What's happening, Nancy?

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Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. We have heard

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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing from the authorities. Justin actually a subpoena Nola

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Speaker 2: Police Department this week because he was told that they

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Speaker 2: would have a phone conference whether this case was actually

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Speaker 2: still ongoing or whether it was closed. Because right now

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Speaker 2: we have no knowledge of that and we're in limbo.

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Speaker 2: I have not heard anything from them.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you something else that we've learned? Dan Corsentina,

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Speaker 1: a former police chief and sheriff, we contacted the police. Gee,

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Speaker 1: I wonder why they didn't want to come on today.

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Speaker 1: But we also learned they said, we went to the

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Speaker 1: Aubers driver's house and he wasn't home. So that's when

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Speaker 1: you stake out in the place. That's when you sit

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Speaker 1: there till he does come home. How do I know

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Speaker 1: that I've done it myself. I've sat in my beat

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Speaker 1: up Ponda hiding hunch down behind the wheel, waiting for

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Speaker 1: a school bus driver to come home, and I got her.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean he wasn't home?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Nancy, the police department appears as I took a

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Speaker 12: look at this case to really be underperforming, and they

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Speaker 12: haven't put this as a priority. They took the Corners

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Speaker 12: report as an accidental overdose, and they closed the case

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Speaker 12: out and they ran with it. From that perspective, I mean,

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Speaker 12: this young lady deserves a voice, she deserves to be heard,

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Speaker 12: and she can at this point because one component in

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Speaker 12: the criminal justice system is failing to do their job

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Speaker 12: and they need to really focus in on the uber driver.

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Speaker 12: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: The whole parton Crime online dot Com invescat reporter, What

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Speaker 1: can you tell me what is happening in the case?

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Speaker 1: Who Jackie? Who is the sheriff in this jurisdiction? What

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Speaker 1: county is at.

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Speaker 2: Miranda, Nancy, I'm not even sure I know.

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Speaker 1: I know it's Greater New Orleans, Renette. You would know that.

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Speaker 6: Well, we don't have counties in Leuisdana. We have of perishes,

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Speaker 6: and you could count on it being Orleans Parish. But

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Speaker 6: if she was a mettery of that, Nancy, the conglomeration

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Speaker 6: of all the police departmartments, the sheriff's department, we've got

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Speaker 6: the first of all, Marti Gras. You know, everything shuts

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Speaker 6: down for weeks.

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Speaker 5: Nancy, No, I did not know that.

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 12: People do not go to work.

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Speaker 6: Why because it's party central it's carnival.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that includes the police department.

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Speaker 6: Well, apparently in this case, it's included the police department, Nancy.

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Speaker 6: So we're talking about Orleans Parish, Nancy. We're talking about

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Speaker 6: New Orleans metro area and Marti Gras. It is party central.

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Speaker 6: It's carnival, and people take off of work for ten days,

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Speaker 6: and obviously the police department has done the same.

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Speaker 1: Ms. Whetstein, I doubt deeply that the police department took

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Speaker 1: off the night that your daughter was giving a fatal

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Speaker 1: lethal dosage a sentinel. What is your message to them today?

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Speaker 2: I need communication. I need to know where they stand,

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Speaker 2: what information they have. They have her belongings, they have

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Speaker 2: her phone. Her phone has everything on it, it has everything.

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Speaker 2: We are in the dark.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I have no clue where they are in this investigation,

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Speaker 2: what they have found, who they have talked to. I

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Speaker 2: am absolutely in the dark, and no matter where I turned,

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Speaker 2: I'm still not getting anywhere. Eighteen months later, I have

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Speaker 2: yet to get a phone call from these people from

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Speaker 2: the department. They just say, hey, when your daughters, we

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Speaker 2: still care. We do care. This is still an open investigation.

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Speaker 2: We're still looking into things. I need communication. I need

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Speaker 2: to know what they are doing about this situation because

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to go away. I have a lifetime

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Speaker 2: to sit and nothing but time. I have nothing but

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Speaker 2: time to give.

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Speaker 6: Nancy used to be a prosecutor. How important and part

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Speaker 6: of your job was victim contact. They even have victim

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Speaker 6: witness advocates now at every prosecutor's office and at the

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Speaker 6: police department. That is one of your main focuses in

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Speaker 6: any case is victim contact.

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Speaker 1: In Erina, you just sent a flood of memories back

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Speaker 1: sitting in victims living rooms, at their kitchen table, the victims'

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Speaker 1: families because their loved one will be typically dead by

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Speaker 1: the time I met them. And it's everything. It's everything

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Speaker 1: to know your victim's family, to know your victim, whether

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Speaker 1: in life or in death. And I'm embarrassed, embarrassed for

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Speaker 1: law enforcement, specifically the Orleans Parish Sheriff Susan Hudson, that

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Speaker 1: this is how the constituents are treated. Their number is

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Speaker 1: five zero four eight two two eight thousand, and believe

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Speaker 1: you me, I will be calling again to get about

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Speaker 1: three inches up their tailpipe, Doctor Moroney. Final thought.

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Speaker 5: The final thought is her lungs are congested with copious

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Speaker 5: amounts of fluid, which means the overdose that killed her

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Speaker 5: developed with the Uber driver that you can tell that

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Speaker 5: by the amount of fluid, and it's one of the

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Speaker 5: secondary causes of death after fentanyl toxicity. It's pulmonary congestion.

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Speaker 5: And our investigators said, give her a voice. We go

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Speaker 5: beyond her case. There's hundreds of thousands of women that

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Speaker 5: are being supposed to predators who give them drugs for sex,

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Speaker 5: to abuse them in beginning relationships. We have to give

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Speaker 5: them all a voice. This kind of behavior has to stop.

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Speaker 5: We have to put these people.

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Speaker 1: In jail today. Corsantina jump in Dane.

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Speaker 14: One of the things that I found which I found

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Speaker 14: somewhat interesting is Uber purports to do uniform training on

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Speaker 14: sexual misconduct through online videos six online videos to be specific.

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Speaker 14: But how they do that and the system they have

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Speaker 14: in place is really really questionable. So it's not going

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Speaker 14: to be a mitigating factor for this Uber driver, one

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Speaker 14: if he didn't do it, and two if he did

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Speaker 14: do it and he still is the perpetrator in this case,

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Speaker 14: it only adds more to the fire in the fact

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Speaker 14: that their system has failed. And I think that becomes

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Speaker 14: critical in the investigation as well as the Sharf's office.

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Speaker 14: Filling in the gaps, specifically on the timeline that exists

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Speaker 14: every shriff's department, every criminal case, homicide, investigator's suspicious death,

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Speaker 14: serious bodily injury. They've got to fill in the gaps

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Speaker 14: where there's timelines that are unaccounted for, and they failed

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Speaker 14: to do that, and that answer those answers have to

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Speaker 14: be complete.

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Speaker 1: At this airing, no one has been charged, no one

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Speaker 1: has been arrested, nothing is happening in the case. Why

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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,