1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: At least. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson and we will not. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: Be having Aaron. 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: Rodgers as a guest today. 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: No, we were not not on this one. 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was a guest today on the Pat McAfee 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 3: show because he said his sister urged him get to 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: go on because there was a lot of bs out 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: there guarding his situation. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: I didn't hear the interview, but it sounds like it 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: was pretty inconclusive overall. 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: Well, I mean he did say some stuff. He said, Look, 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: I haven't signed with anybody to this point because I 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: have some stuff going on in my life right now 19 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: that I have have to take my attention. 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, that's fair. 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: I mean there are a lot of people these things, 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: if those things have to take precedent over whether you 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 3: play football or not next year, and the Steelers are 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: comfortable waiting, which obviously they are. 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's been back and forth in dialogue between you. 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: He's been in contact with Mike Tomlin constantly. 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: Really okay, so no change obviously, which change I understand 28 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: gets frustrating. 29 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: He said retirement is still a possibility. But I think 30 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: retirement is a possibility for him if the Steelers would move. 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: On, Okay, I mean, there isn't another landing spot for it. 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: I don't see it. 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: I don't see him going to New Orleans, for example. 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't either. I think they're going to draft one 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 1: and cars still in the mix. I mean, that doesn't 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: seem like a fit to me at all. Scheme finances, 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, where the teams do it right, right, right? Yeah, 38 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: So they've been nice to get an answer. There's no 39 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: doubt it'd be nice to know before the draft. Maybe 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: they do know, I mean, or. 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: I have a feeling again, Mike Tomlin has been in 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: constant content with Aaron Rodgers. 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I guess Rogers. 44 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: Rogers said that he has a great deal of respect 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: for Mike Tomlin, even more so after meeting with him, 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: said he's been you know, he's had a relationship with 47 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: with Arthur Smith for a long time. They've known each other. 48 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: Tom Arth was with the Packers, the Steelers quarterback coach, 49 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers rookie year. So Aaron Rodgers is going 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: to be a Pittsburgh Steeling. 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: You can feel pretty confident about it. Yeah, I do. 52 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: I have every step of the way. It's starting to linger, 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: which because you doubts, but the Steelers would have done something. 54 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: This makes a lot more sense. Like him coming out 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: and you know he's waiting on the vikings, he's waiting 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: on it. You were everybody was guessing what was happening. 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that part didn't that up to me either. I mean, 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: it's Steelers are retirement for Yeah. 59 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: For him to come out and say, look, no, I've 60 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: had some things that I've had to take care of 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: my life. I have some people who are dealing with 62 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: some illnesses in my He didn't say family. Yeah, yeah, 63 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: he deferred his family. That that he or his inner 64 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: circle or whatever you want to say. 65 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: People are close to him, people that. 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: Are close to him, great, take care of that. Like 67 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: there's again, there's no rush here. The Steelers haven't done 68 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: anything on the football field, nor will they really until 69 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: after the draft. 70 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: He's not under contract with the Steelers or anyone, so 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: he has no obligations financially or legally to anybody. I 72 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: mean he can take as long as he wants and 73 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: he has the money. Obviously, I don't know what else 74 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: to add to it, you know, I mean, so we're 75 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: still don't know any different in terms of a yes 76 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: or no. But at least it was something said from him, 77 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: and I think that clears things up a little a 78 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: little bit. 79 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, again, that thats just add some clarity, gives 80 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: you some clarity to the situation. He's not holding out 81 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: waiting for somebody else. He did say he's told the 82 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: teams that he talked to, Look, I'll play for ten million. 83 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: I did hear that? Oh they're going to give Aaron 84 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: rodgersion dollars. He's not worth that. 85 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: I guess that wasn't true. 86 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: Huh. I doubt he signs a ten million dollar contract. 87 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: But it's not going to be forty five. 88 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: It's not going to be forty five. It's not going 89 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: to be forty it's not gonna be it's gonna be something. 90 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: I like that, Dan, did you like that? 91 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: But this is this is just what we've been dealing. 92 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: With, right everyone, they say people. 93 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: The conjecture, the guess that worked there. Well, if you 94 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: pay Aaron Rodgers, you can't pay TJ. 95 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: What No, right, that's o case at all. Right. Yeah, 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: So it's funny is all these people that think they 97 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: know really had. 98 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: No clue, pretending that they I talked to Aaron Rodgers 99 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: once five years ago, and here's what I think. 100 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: This is what he's up to, that's all. 101 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: BS. 102 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he knows hundred percent, you know, right. 103 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: That's that's the main thing. He doesn't know. 104 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: What if? 105 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: What if the situations that he is dealing with off 106 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: the field linger or turn worse? 107 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: Right right right? You know what? 108 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: I don't and I'm not going to even guess what 109 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: these things are. 110 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Clue. 111 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: But you know, again, how having dealt with stuff in 112 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: my own personal life, I can understand if you want 113 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: to take your time. If somebody's dealing with something really 114 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: bad in their life and there and they mean a 115 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: lot to you, take your time. 116 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 117 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, But once you're in, this is what I've said 118 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: all long about Aaron Rodgers. Once you're in, you're in. 119 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: That's the thing is when you jump on the ride, 120 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: the roller coaster is not stopping, you know what I mean, 121 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: let's go, We're not going to Egypt, We're no, you're in. 122 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: You get all that stuff out of the out of 123 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: your system, or deal with what you need to deal with. 124 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: It's more important in football. We all understand that that's 125 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: that there is things more important than football, believe it 126 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: or not. And hey, I mean he's not a young 127 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: guy either. I mean he's probably looking at his life 128 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: in a retrospective kind of way in some ways. 129 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 3: Here's the one thing I thought that he talked about 130 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: the way things ended with the Jets, and he wasn't 131 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: happy about that. He told them he still wanted to 132 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: keep playing. 133 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: Okay, important note, an important note, context clue. 134 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: And they said no, they were they were going to 135 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: move on. And I guess it got a little contentious 136 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: or whatever, however you want to look at it. I 137 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 3: can't believe that a player of Aaron Rodgers' ability, that 138 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: is resume and status, right, would want that to be 139 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: the last the last thing that you saw, right. 140 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, now, his body might disagree with him. And 141 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: that's the thing. He did have a major injury and 142 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: surgery not long ago. On his timeline. He's not young. 143 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: But if you want to play the Jets, I mean, 144 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: if there's truth to that that, hey, I wanted to 145 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: do this another year with you guys in New York. 146 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: Probably wants to do another year. 147 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 3: He probably wants to play another year. He wants to 148 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: get that bad taste out of. 149 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: His knows what he's capable of, and you know, maybe 150 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: he's not the player he was five years ago and 151 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: probably recognizes that, but probably doesn't want Frank with the 152 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: Seahawks to be the last thing you hear of them. 153 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, Willie Mays with the Mets. You know that 154 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: kind of ye charge a million other rams? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 155 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: like that. Let me change that tune, you know, Yeah, 156 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: hopefully I mean hopefully we who knows. 157 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: And quite frankly, I mean, if you look at it, 158 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning in twenty fifteen with the with the Broncos, 159 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: Pet Manning was not the driving factor for the Broncos. 160 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: Winning a Super Bowl, bad neck injury, he was coming 161 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: off of why he was not a cult any But. 162 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: What you got from Peyton Manning that season and it 163 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 3: happened against the Steelers in the playoffs that year. Steelers 164 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: are winning that game in Denver with Ben Roethlisberger with 165 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: an army couldn't raise above his shoulder, No, Antonio Brown, 166 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: and I think that was the year they're all run 167 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: together now. But the Steelers are winning that game and 168 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning put together a drive. 169 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, summoned up An with his They. 170 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: Won that game for him because they had a really 171 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: good defense. They did, they did, and he made he 172 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: may basically I can remember there was one throw that 173 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: he kind of saw something at the line of scrimmage, 174 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: changed the play, hit the hit the steam route and 175 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: basically won them that game. But his overall numbers weren't great. 176 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: No, he had a rough go of it. I mean 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: he couldn't drive the ball on out routes and things 178 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: like that, but there was still a bullet or two 179 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: left in the guy. No no, no, I mean yeah, yeah, 180 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: and knowing where to go to football, being smart, all 181 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. Tom Brady. Now, Brady had more in the tank. 182 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I would say he was better player at that stage. 183 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: But he also had a heck of a lot more 184 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: offensively around him. I mean, we talked about that that 185 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: off snon I remember if you just gave you gave 186 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: that Tampa Bay Buccaneers team average quarterback play. 187 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean that was Winston coming off the thirty thirty year. 188 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: With basically forty third Yeah, he had forty turnovers. He 189 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: lost over ten fumbles that year two in addition to 190 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: the thirty interceptions. Like if your quarterback just goes out 191 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: there and doesn't the ball over two times a game, 192 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: make that twelve or fifteen or twenty, which is what 193 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: Brady was able to do. 194 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's and Brady agreed with us. I mean 195 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: he looked at the situation like this is perfect for 196 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: me to land. Yeah. 197 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: Now you've also brought up some other instances where it 198 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: didn't work out. 199 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: Sure, I mean we kind of went through this with 200 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: Wilson here. 201 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: Last year, but those players weren't the caliber player that 202 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was or Tom Brady or Peyton Mann. 203 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: Right right right, I mean some of the best I've 204 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: ever done it. Yeah, without question, So again, I who knows. 205 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: I'm willing to give it a shot because A what 206 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: else do you got at this point? But B if 207 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: only if he is in one on being a Steeler, 208 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: being present at everything. 209 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: And you but like you said, not before he signs 210 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: a contract, but the second. 211 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: Half, the second after. 212 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 213 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't care about all this stuff because 214 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: they're not doing anything on the field right now. 215 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: No, he's not hurting the team he's not making. You know, 216 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: it's not a maybe it's a distract action, but who knows. 217 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: There's not anyone even in the facility working out. I mean, 218 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: it's everyone's on their own. 219 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: I know some people. Well, there are OTAs start next week. 220 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 3: There are OTAs, and there are OTAs. 221 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. 222 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: The OTAs that start next week are just we're going 223 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: to have the building opened up. If players want to 224 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: come in and work out, you can come in and 225 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: work out. Coaches aren't involved, Yeah, the coaches aren't it. 226 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: It's just guys going and lifting weights, training together, that 227 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. Then you have the draft, you have 228 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: your rookie mini camp. 229 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: This's the fact you wrote. You said the sentence coaches 230 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: aren't involved. 231 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: Coaches aren't involved. You have your rookie mini camp that 232 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: it starts to be football ish, and that's where the 233 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: coaches get their hands on the young guys for. 234 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: The first time. That's like freshman orientation. 235 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: But you're not bringing Aaron Rodgers to that, no, no, no, 236 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: that's and then after that you involve the veteran players 237 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: in the coaches. So really you've got two or three 238 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 3: more weeks before the actual football off sage off season 239 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: training program really starts where. 240 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: You would want him to be. Yeah, you know, I 241 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: mean if he starts missing those things, I think that's 242 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: a different conversation. That's the conversation from a year ago 243 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: in New York. Blah blah blah. Yeah, and by then 244 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: the drafts in the books, you've already major decisions of 245 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: should we draft a quarterback or what do we do 246 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: with disposition? Et cetera, et cetera. 247 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: And the difference is like, if he were still a packer, 248 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: he wouldn't need to be a thetas. No, no, you know, 249 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 3: the offense, you're not learning anything new. 250 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: Nobody cared if Ben was there. Yeah, well you're either 251 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: you know right then? 252 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: Was there something? Sometimes he was, Sometimes he wasn't. A 253 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: lot of players are in and out of those things. 254 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: I never really can Hayward's not there, No one cares, no, right. 255 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: But for a new player on a new team, yeah, 256 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: kind of need to be there. 257 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: To a degree, it would certainly be fruitful. I mean 258 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: just even the verbiage at the line of scrimmage, the terminology, 259 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: the communications. I assume Wilson was there last year. I 260 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, you know, I think it's I think 261 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: that's important. I'm the starting quarterback on a new team. 262 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: I want you there for those things. 263 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I gotta learn these new receivers who can 264 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: do what? 265 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 266 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's when it gets important. At least 267 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: it hasn't. 268 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: Then then well then we can complain about it or 269 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, bring it back up. But I would hope 270 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: that answer has happened, hopefully by the draft, but certainly 271 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: by then. Yeah. 272 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: I mean that's when it gets really Now you're starting 273 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: to get closer to you know, three weeks from now, 274 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: you're just a couple of weeks away from mini camp, 275 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: and then once mini camp's over, you're done, your off 276 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: season program is finished. 277 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: And it's quiet, quiet time. Yeah, but you'd like to 278 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: have some exposure at that point, right, you know, even 279 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: if it's cousins or car or whoever. I mean, you'd 280 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: want your starting quarterback to be around. 281 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: That's what you would hope. I mean that doesn't mean 282 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: that's what's going to happen, but I mean we've seen 283 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: instances in the past where quarterbacks have gotten injured in 284 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: training camp and you bring somebody else in and. 285 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it's quarterback. I don't know. The encouraging thing, 286 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: assuming everybody wants them to be a stealer, to me 287 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: is constant communication with the head coach, and I wanted 288 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: to play. I wanted to come back to the Jets 289 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: and play. You know. That implies to me that he's 290 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: leaning that way. You know, if he was drifting off 291 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: in the sunset, would those two things come out of 292 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: his mouth. Probably not. But again I'm speculating. 293 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's what it always, right, And this 294 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: just ends some of the speculation, not all of it, but. 295 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Some of it. I do think people were hoping to 296 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: get an answer. He's going on the air, he's gonna 297 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: say yes or no, we didn't. 298 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: But well, yeah, quite frankly, I'm kind of happy he 299 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: didn't do it that way just to go on. I'm 300 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 3: gonna go on the McAfee show and make a big pronouncement. 301 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just shows have to happen, right. 302 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: No, the circus is still in towent. 303 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: Everyone thought he'd be walk out on stage, you know, 304 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: and McAfee was here and all that too, and yeah, 305 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's not just a big look at me circus situation. 306 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: It's just ID see the little time. 307 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: I need time. 308 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get it. I mean totally upfront with 309 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: the Steelers that way too. 310 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: It's it's really not all that different than the last 311 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: few years, a few years of Ben Roethlisberger's career. He says, look, 312 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: I need some time before I decide whether I'm gonna 313 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: play or not. 314 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: Not uncommon for any athlete. I mean they're under contract 315 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: with their new teams. 316 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: Once you reach a certain age. Okay, and I know, oh, 317 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: Chuck Nolan said, if you're thinking about retirement, then you retire. 318 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: That was forty years ago. It's a different game today. 319 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: It's a lot more money involved. There's a lot more 320 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: off season. I mean, some of those guys like sold 321 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: insurance and. 322 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't have the full season train year round, right, Like, Okay, 323 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: if you're thinking about retirement in nineteen seventy five, I 324 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: get it, because you get another job that you do 325 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: on the side that maybe you just want to do that. 326 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 327 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, guys didn't play into their late thirties and early forties. 328 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean it was then too, but it's just a 329 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: huge commitment to say yes, I'm in because it's diving 330 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: in with both feet. Like you said, they're not sneaking 331 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: off the Egypt. You're not going into a dark or 332 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: half or whatever, right right, I mean you need to 333 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: constantly train your mind, your body, everything about it. And 334 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: it's a big commitment and it's a longer seed. It's 335 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot more money involved of that. You know, people 336 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: played later if they want. There's I'm sure he has 337 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: his own private quarterback coach and you know all that 338 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: stuff too that Bradshaw didn't have. And of course you know, 339 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: so it's just a lot more involved. 340 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: So what Chuck Nole said forty years ago or fifty 341 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: years ago really doesn't doesn't factor into this. 342 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: No, I'm sure there's been I bet we could come 343 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: up with ten football players in the last couple of 344 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: years Kelsey or whoever. Yeah, thought about retirement and came 345 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: back and didn't and he came back and played well, 346 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: right right right? You know again, you're either in or 347 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: you're out. But if you're in, you got to be in. 348 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: And that's what you're deciding right now. Do I want 349 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: to put my body through this again? Right? Right? Right? 350 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean it is a strain, yeah, and doesn't sound 351 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: like money is the most important thing to him, which 352 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: is that's thought That was good to hear too. Yeah, 353 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: that's not we'll play for ten million, but I get 354 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: what he's saying. 355 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyways, let's get to a break. He is the 356 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the 357 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back 358 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: with more right after this. 359 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: At this, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 360 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 361 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio, and. 362 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: We are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the 363 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt I saw this today on SI dot. 364 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: Com their. 365 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: Matt ver Damie Vetera, Amy, I guess or urder Army. 366 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: I forget how pronounce him. He's been in the business 367 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: for a while. 368 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: Been in the business for a while. He put together 369 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: the top picks at every spot in the in a draft. 370 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: I'm up from the history of the game. Oh okay, 371 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: I thought he was predicting this upcoming draft. Okay, like 372 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: who was the best twenty third pick overall or whatever? Like, 373 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: So we go through some of these, Okay, see if 374 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: we agree. 375 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: It's funny. We talked with Bob yesterday about you know, 376 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: some the Steelers picking twenty one lynch Wan. You know 377 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: it was one of them, right right, that's a pretty 378 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: good one. 379 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: It's a good one. Yeah, yeah, all right. So first overall, 380 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: how do you get narrow that down? So he chose 381 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning. But here are some of the other guys 382 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: who were chosen first. 383 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean there's a million of them. Yeah, obviously they're 384 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: gonna be good. O J. 385 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: Simpson, Yeah, Terry Bradshaw. 386 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: Say what you want about O. J. Simpson. I think 387 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: he's one of the most underrated backs in the history 388 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: of the league. 389 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: Leeroy Selman, Earl Campbell, John Elway. 390 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: I say Elway comes to mind for me, is immediate. 391 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: Bruce Smith, Troy Aikman, I get it. I mean three 392 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: Super Bowls? 393 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean. 394 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 3: Orlando Pace and Miles Garrett. 395 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: Okay, pretty good list. Peyton Manning, all right, I mean 396 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: there's I might go Elway too. I think Lweih would 397 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: be my pick. Yeah, I mean Manning was great, don't 398 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: get me wrong, but Elway was It would be. 399 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: My pick number two overall. His pick is Lawrence Taylor 400 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: in nineteen years say LT to me stands out on 401 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: this one. The honorable mentions Randy White in seventy five, Oka, 402 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 3: Tony Dorset in seventy seven, Eric Dickerson in eighty three, 403 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: A lot of running backshre Marty. 404 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: You say that the Cowboys got dor set in seventy 405 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: seven when they were already like one of the best 406 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: teams in the league. 407 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: I traded, I know, I know, Marshall Falcon ninety four, 408 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: he was two. Yeah, Tony Basselli in ninety five, Julius 409 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: Peppers in two thousand and two, and Saquon Barkley in 410 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. 411 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: I think lt is the choice. Yeah, good golf. Yeah, 412 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure who beats him at any level. 413 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: Number three overall, going back to nineteen eighty, he went 414 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 3: with Anthony. 415 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: Munos, maybe the best OFFENSI facult ever life. 416 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: Offensive tackle for the Bengals. The honorable mentions mile my No, 417 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: I would go to this guy, Barry Sanders in eighty nine, 418 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: not bad, Cortez Kennedy in ninety Hall of Famer Andre 419 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: Johnson in two thousand and three. Also Hall of Famer 420 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald in two thousand and four, and Joe Thomas 421 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven. I would say Barry your moneo, 422 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: I'm going Barry Santas, okay, yeah, but that's yeah, Yeah, 423 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: they're both strong candidates. Fourth overall, going back to nineteen 424 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: seventy five, it. 425 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: Was Dion right after Barry in the same draft. I 426 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: don't know if he was four or five. I think 427 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: he was five. His number four pick is Walter Payton 428 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: in nineteen five. Not too shabby. 429 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: The honorable mentions Joe Green in sixty nine. Anybody either, right, 430 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 3: John Hannah in seventy A lot. 431 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: Of people think Joe Green was the first pick in 432 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: the draft and he was not. He wasn't. 433 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, John Hannah in seventy three, Dan Hampton in 434 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 3: seventy nine, Derek Thomas in eighty nine, Jonathan Ogden in 435 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: ninety six. 436 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: Derek Thomas was the same year as Barry Sanders that draft. 437 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: We're going to get the d on so good, right, yeah? 438 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: Wow, Charles Woodson in ninety eight, and Trent Williams in 439 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 3: twenty ten. 440 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: Strong as you would imagine. I mean, there's serio, who 441 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: is it. If Joe Green comes in second, that's pretty good. Yeah. Uh. 442 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: Number five is Dion Sanders nineteen eighty nine, same class. Wow, 443 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: honorable mentions Mike Kynes. 444 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: What's funny is Manderich went to that year. Oh yeah, 445 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: and all these other Hall of famers went right after 446 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: the Packers. 447 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: Mike Haynes in seventy six, the cornerback Junior Seau in ninety. 448 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: Junior Sale I a monster, Yeah. 449 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: Ladanian Tomlinson in two thousand and one. 450 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: Okay, and then they got Drew Brees in next round. 451 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Khalil Mack in twenty fourteen. 452 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Pretty good. I guess I'd go with Dion six. 453 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: Walter Jones in ninety seven. 454 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: Oh man, you talk about I mean, everyone knows how 455 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: good he is, but I think he was as good 456 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: as any player I almost ever scouted. I mean I 457 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: was in charge of the NFC West when I was 458 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: at the Browns, and him and pace For in their prime. 459 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: By the fourth quarter, people just stopped rushing the passer 460 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: against those guys just played the run. It was crazy 461 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: to watch. 462 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: The honorable mentions John Riggins in seventy one, James Lofton 463 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 3: in seventy eight, Jim Covert in eighty three, Pitt Tim 464 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 3: Brown in eighty eight, and Julio Jones in twenty eleven. 465 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: Julio's got a good case. We talked about him, we retired. 466 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: Who was number one? Could they pick Walter Jones? Oh yeah, good? Good? 467 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: Number seven overall Adrian Peterson two thousand and seven is 468 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: his pick. 469 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: Pretty ridiculous career. 470 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 3: Not many honorable mentions here, though, there's one that could 471 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: push his way into this over Adrian Peterson Sterling Sharp 472 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 3: in that eighty eight, Champ Bailey in ninety nine. 473 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 474 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: Josh Allen in twenty eighteen. 475 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: Oh, I think he'll end up with the title of. 476 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: Five years from now. Adrian Peterson's getting bumped off. 477 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think Peterson's the It's terrible, say like 478 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: the weakest one. 479 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: Bar you know, Number eight, Ronnie Lott forty nine Ers 480 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: in eighty one. 481 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: He's probably unlike the all time defensive back team, you know. Yeah. 482 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: The honorable mentions Larry Zonka in sixty eight, Mike Munchak 483 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: in eighty two, eh, Willie rof in ninety three, Christian 484 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: McCaffrey in seventeen. 485 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Good not amazing. 486 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, number nine overall, Bruce Matthews by the Oilers 487 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: in eighty three. Your honorable mentions Brian Erlacker in two thousand, 488 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: Tyron Smith in twenty eleven. Luke Keickley in twenty twelve. 489 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: We talked about Tyron Smith yesterday, the day before Keithley 490 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: will go to the Hall of Fame. I think Smith 491 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: will also. 492 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 3: Number that's kind of week, yeah, Number ten overall. Patrick 493 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: Mahomes in twenty seventeen. 494 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: I'm on board with that. 495 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: Here are the other guys though, Marcus Allen in eighty two, good, 496 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: Rod Woodson in eighty seven, Jerome Bettison ninety three. 497 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: Okay, little Steeler contingency there, right, Nice Mahomes is hard 498 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: to talk, hard to be right. 499 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: Woodson's not bad. Yeah, pretty damn good. Number eleven overall, 500 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: it's some argument here. He goes with JJ Watt. 501 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna go to the Hall of Fame. 502 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: The other picks Michael Irvin in eighty eight, okay, Ben 503 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 3: Roethlisberger in two thousand and four, DeMarcus ware in two 504 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: thousand and five, and Patrick Willis in two thousand and seven. 505 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with WA quarterbacks are strong though. 506 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they can't get a big contingency there. 507 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: Number twelve. Warren Sap in nineteen ninety five by the Buccaneers. 508 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: And he fell he fell, you know, I mean I 509 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: remember watching the draft. They were talking about him being 510 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: the best player in the draft. 511 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 3: The interesting part his honorable mention includes nobody really, there 512 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: must be no Hall of famers drafted at twelve twelve. Okay, 513 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: number thirteen, Aaron Donald, Saint Louis, I's twenty fourteen. Your 514 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 3: honorable mentions Franco Harris in seventy two. Good, Kellen Winslow 515 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: in seventy nine, Tony Gonzalez in ninety seven. 516 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: It's pretty strong. 517 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: Must be where you take tight ends. 518 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Get the tight end number fourteen Loveland or Warren goes thirteen. 519 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, to move Darrel Reeves in two thousand and seven, 520 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: Good by the Jets. The honorable mentions Randy Gratishar in 521 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: seventy four. I think he's in Yeah, Yeah, Jim Kelly 522 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: in eighty. 523 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: Three US by way of USFL. Yeah. 524 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: Fifteen once again just one guy, Alan Page offensive face 525 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: at all time, very defensive tackle for the Vikings nineteen 526 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: sixty seven. No honorable mentions. Sixteen guy the Bob Labriola 527 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: talked about on our show yesterday. 528 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, Yeah, pretty good. 529 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: Eighty five. The honorable mention in I wonder. 530 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: Where the Steelers picked that year, because I remember him 531 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: saying they had all this interest and he went right 532 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: before the Steelers picked. 533 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: The honorable mention is Troy Paulamalo in two thousand and three. 534 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: Not a bad runner up. There's definitely some Steelers on here. 535 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: Seventeen is EMMITTT. Smith running back Dallas Cowboys nineteen ninety 536 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 3: the uh. 537 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: We're having Irvan the same year. No, they were won apart. 538 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: Irvan was eighty eight, are you Nine? 539 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: The honorable mentioned Gene Upshaw in sixty seven and Steve 540 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: Hutchinson in two thousand and one. 541 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: Okay, that's prettyasy. Want to say there. 542 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 3: Eighteen Art Monk in nineteen eighty he's in the Hall 543 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 3: of Fame. No honorable mentions again, Okay, that's pretty weak spot. 544 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 545 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: Nineteen Marvin Harrison nineteen ninety six. The honorable mentions are 546 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: Roger Worley in nineteen sixty nine and Randall McDaniel in 547 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight. 548 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: Not super strong either. 549 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: Twenty is Jack Youngblood with the Rams in nineteen seventy one. 550 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: Your honorable mentions Steve Attwater in nineteen eighty nine. 551 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: Reach in Hall of Famer. I might put Atwater over 552 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: young Blood twenty one. Wait, eighteen nine, twenty aren't so great? 553 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: Where the Steelers draft this year? Randy Moss Minnesota Vikings 554 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety eight. EFL. 555 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: Dyson went ahead of them, which is weird. 556 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the honorable mention is Lynn Swan. 557 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: Nice bout your wide receiver. Seventy four? 558 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty two. I bet there's several seventy four's on 559 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: this list. He went the whole way through the draft, 560 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: So I bet you can find nineteen seventy four Steelers 561 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: all the way through twenty two, justin Jefferson. Yeah, I 562 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: think that's worth twenty twenty. Nobody in the honorable mentions wow, okay, 563 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: twenty three. Ozzie Newsom the Browns in nineteen seventy eight. 564 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: Oh fame or easily the honorable mentions Ray Guy. 565 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, no, I mean it sounds like 566 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: if you're in the Hall of Fame. He mentions, apparently. 567 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that was not a good draft pick 568 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: to take Ray Guy in the first round in the 569 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy three draft. 570 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Even if you are the best punter ever, 571 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: you could be the Yeah, it could be number one. 572 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: It's for eternity. 573 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, couldn't you got him in the second round? 574 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: I would think so. 575 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: Same with Janikowski. Yeah. 576 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: The other honorable mention is ty Law in nineteen ninety five, 577 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 3: two quips on there, there you go. Twenty four Ed 578 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: Reid two thousand and two. The honorable mention Aaron Rodgers 579 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: in two thousand and five. I'm sorry, but Aaron Rodgers. 580 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: Got to go over it reads it amazing. Don't get 581 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: bad player, amazing, right, but Aaron Rodgers is. I remember 582 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: being a fan back then hoping Reid got the Steelers 583 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: and it was like two or three picks ahead of 584 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: him that Ravens snagged him. 585 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: Twenty five is Stanley Morgan with the Patriots in nineteen seventy. 586 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: He's not a Hall of Fame. 587 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess if you put somebody there, somebody hit 588 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: because there's no honorable mess. Yeah, that's the weakest spot. 589 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: What number was that? Twenty forty five? 590 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: Ray Lewis at twenty six nineteen ninety six with the Ravens. 591 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: The honorable mentions your same. 592 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: Year as Ogden, and I don't think Ogden got mentioned 593 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: early in the draft. Yeah he did, did did? Okay, 594 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: you should. 595 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: Joe Delu the Malaik Delamaur, Dilomelauri. Yeah, Bill and Alan 596 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: Fanica in ninety eight. Okay, not bad. I would go 597 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: with Lewis twenty seven. Dan Marino nineteen eighty. 598 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Three also kind of slipped, but a strong quarterback draft. 599 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh. The honorable mention is DeAndre Hopkins. 600 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: Probably not a Hall of Fame I don't think so. Yeah. 601 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 3: Twenty eight. Derek Brooks with the Buccaneers in nineteen ninety five. 602 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: The honorable mention is Darryl Green in nineteen eighty three. Okay, yeah, 603 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: twenty nine Harrison Smith with the Vikings in two thousand two. 604 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Probably not a Hall of Famer. Yeah, really good career, 605 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: but probably not a Hall of Famer. 606 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: The honorable mentions are Chris Bielman in eighty eight and 607 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: Nick Mangold in two thousand and six. 608 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that's probably the weakest spot so far. Give your today. 609 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: Thirty j Watt. Nice It's Burg Steelers twenty seventeen. So 610 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: both Watt brothers, two of the three brothers over Eric 611 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: Allen nineteen eighty eight and Reggie Wayne two thousand and one. 612 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: He should be number one on that list. 613 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty one. Cameron Hayward Wow Steelers in twenty eleven. 614 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: The honorable mention is Curly Culp in nineteen sixty eight. 615 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. 616 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, Hayward Hall of Famer. I think wow, yeah, yeah, 617 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: I think he's on his way thirty two. Lamar Jackson, Yeah, 618 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: I think that's fine. Honorable mentioned Drew Brees in two 619 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: thousand and one, but. 620 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: He was the second rounder. There must have been thirty 621 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: two to thirty teams at that point. 622 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Lamar versus Drew Brees is a conversation. 623 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: It is it is. I mean, I don't know how 624 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: many does Breeze have any MVPs? I would think one. 625 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: I think he has at least one. Yeah, he is 626 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: a super Bowl yeaheah. I mean he's got a ton 627 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: of passing titles in stats. 628 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: That's a that's a carversation. 629 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: It is. 630 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: Brett fav Is at thirty three doesn't give you honorable 631 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: mentions for some of these other spots. Let's see here. 632 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Then they traded him a year after that. 633 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he had some stuff. 634 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: Oh he did. Just I'll go through the. 635 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: Stuff here that Steeler related as we go through. 636 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: The rest of this year, it'll go all the way 637 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: down to lake Go do that. 638 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: Two hundreds, Yeah, forty four Dermani Dawson nineteen eighty eight. Nice, nice, 639 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: I think he's the best center of all time. 640 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: You too, he'd be my vote. 641 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry's at forty five, forty six. Jack Lambert Pittsburgh 642 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: Steelers nineteen seventy. 643 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Four, say that drafted me pretty well represented. 644 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna you might see a bunch of those. Yeah, 645 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: let's see her. 646 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: Webbe and you know, yeah A J. 647 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: Brown, Ken Stabler at fifty two and sixty eight, fifty three, 648 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: Mel Blunt Pittsburgh Steelers nineteen seventy. 649 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: How does he last in the second round. 650 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 3: He's a small school guy that I know. 651 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just kind of sixty four and incredibly 652 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: physically imposing. I get it. 653 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: Let's see here, Pat Swilling, Brian Dawkins, Tony Hill sixty three, 654 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey, Yeah that sixty four. Dan Fouts nineteen seventy three. 655 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: That late, let's see here sixty seven. 656 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: Ken Anderson, Okay, has a strong Hall of Fame case, 657 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: but probably doesn't get in. 658 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: I think he eventually gets in, but it's got a wow. Yeah, 659 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: it's been too long. Seventy five, Russell Wilson with the Seahawks. 660 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that guy in the third round. 661 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely Artschell all the way down at nineteen eighty from 662 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight, eighty two. Joe Montana in nineteen seventy nine. Nice, 663 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: we got uh, oh, there's heinz Ward ninety two, nineteen 664 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: ninety eight. 665 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: A lot of Steelers on there, lot of Steelers on 666 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: this fifteen. 667 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: Ninety four, Thomas Everett, Wow, nineteen eighty seven. 668 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: It's a good player, but he the same as Woodson. 669 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: Draft at Woodson, Dalton Hall, and Everett. I remember one 670 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 1: year that went they had three defensive backs in their 671 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: top four picks. 672 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: You got Joe thisman of the Dolphins in nineteen seventy one. 673 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: Dolphins drafted him, they trade him right away. 674 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he went to the well, he went to the CFL. 675 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, back in nineteen seventy four, came back with Washington. Yeah. 676 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: Uh one O four d White White nineteen seventy one, 677 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. One O college. They don't list to college. 678 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember the White White's college. 679 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, like Alabama's something or other, I don't know, somewhere down. 680 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't sure if he was a historical Black 681 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: college or not. 682 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 3: Max Crosby at one o six and twenty nineteen, Oh 683 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 3: like that, Yeah, had some stuff. Let's see here. Kevin 684 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: Green by the Rams in nineteen eighty five at one thirteen. Yeah, 685 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: Hall of famer, Herschel Walker by the Cowboys in nineteen 686 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: eighty five by way of USFL Yeah. Interesting. Steve Largent 687 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: by the Oilers in nineteen seventy six. 688 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: He's phenomenal. 689 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: Imagine if he has stayed with the Oilers. 690 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: I forgot he was an Oiler. 691 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: First they had the expansion Draft. 692 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how that worked. Okay, Yeah, so how did 693 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: you get this? Yeah? 694 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: Mark Brunel was won eighteen by the Packers in nineteen 695 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: ninety three. 696 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: Packers drafted a bunch of quarterbacks. He drafted your quarterback, Yeah, hasselback, and. 697 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: You know Hardy Nickerson nineteen eighty seven, Steel Beck with 698 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: the Steelers at one twenty two. 699 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: That's the fourth round. 700 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, one twenty five. Mike Webster nineteen seventy four. They 701 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 3: did okay in that seventy four draft, one twenty eight. 702 00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 3: Barry Sanders nineteen ninety or Barry Foster, Barry Foster ninety 703 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: begot that's kind of what you're hoping for in this draft. 704 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd get that kind of that neighborhood. 705 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: Uh. Let's see here, Isaiah likely already making the list 706 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 3: at one thirty nine from twenty twenty two. That's a 707 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: little it has to be so rich after at won 708 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: thirty nine, it has been somebody else that drafted at 709 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 3: one thirty nine that makes that list. Let's see one 710 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 3: fifty Greg Lloyd nineteen eighty seven. Steelers are pretty good 711 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 3: in that eighty seven draft. 712 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: They're represented quite well here, to be honest with you. Yeah, 713 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: East Texas, A and M from Tyler, And it was 714 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: somewhere I knew. It was a small, tiny school, right. 715 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill at one sixty five in twenty sixteen. 716 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: He had off the field stuff. Yeah. Yeah. 717 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 3: Gary Anderson won seventy one by the Buffalo Bills in 718 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty two. 719 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: No, he wasn't a Steeler peck. 720 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 3: He was not a Steeler pick. 721 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: I assume that he has caught him early and. 722 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: One eighty three Bo Jackson Raiders nineteen eighty seven. 723 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: And it would have been one. Oh yeah, I mean 724 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: I think he was one by Tampa. He was, and 725 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: then he went and played baseball baseball and came back in. 726 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy wide receiver Dave Smith by the Steelers. 727 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't know Dave Smith. Let's see. 728 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: Nineteen one ninety five. In twenty ten picked one ninety 729 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 3: five Antonio Brown by the Steelers. 730 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an easy one, I'm sure. 731 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Terrell Davis at one ninety six, So two Hall 732 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 3: of famers back to back should be Hall of famers. 733 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: And then one ninety nine Tom. 734 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: Brady, Yeah, obviously. Yeah. 735 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: So six rounds? Where you mind these. 736 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: Two oh three? 737 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 3: Richard dentka three like when you hit in the sixth round, 738 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: you hit in the sixth round, when you don't you 739 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: get some of these other gus reaches? 740 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 741 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: David Tyree, oh wow Yeah. Tim Ritay, Okay, we're getting there. 742 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 3: We're really four scrape in the bottom of the barrel. 743 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 3: Tom Nalen, Okay, imagine putting this list together. Oh, Mark 744 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: Clayton with the yeah yeah, and number two twenty four 745 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 3: Jay Ratliffe defensive tackle, Cowboys two thousand and five. Okay, 746 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: that's a heck of a list he put together? Is 747 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: Perdy not on there is the last one he only 748 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: went to two twenty four for some reason. 749 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I don't know what number he was, but 750 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: he's later than that. Yeah. Nice, So yours very well. 751 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: Represented, extremely well represented on that list. 752 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple of What's kind of funny is 753 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: there was a couple spots in the first round that 754 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: weren't that great. 755 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how John Stalworth didn't make the list. 756 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: What pick was John stalwars the second rounder? Right? 757 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: No, he's a fourth rounder? 758 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: Fourth rounder? 759 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta look that up now. In nineteen seventy four, 760 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 3: what what overall pick was? He was eighty six? 761 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 1: Eighty second was number? 762 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 3: There you go, eighty seven can pick according to Toller, 763 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 3: and it is correct. Webby was the one twenty five? 764 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 1: Who did you have? Eighty two? But I mean, John 765 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: Stalworth at least has to be an aorable mention, I 766 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: would think. 767 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 3: And my computer is frozen up. 768 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh wait, we can investigate that. Have the break? 769 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: If we have, we can look into that. We're gonna 770 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: get to a break, won't wait? 771 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: Wait? Whoop? Ye? Nope? 772 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: Maybe not nope? Yeah, there goes eighty two on this list? 773 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: Was this is good radio? 774 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: Yeah? 775 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 3: This sits we're gonna get the break, all right, we'll 776 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 3: do We'll do the break. 777 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: Uh. 778 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening 779 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 3: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll 780 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: be back with more right after this. 781 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: At least. 782 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams on 783 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 784 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 785 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: And we are back. 786 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson. And it 787 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 3: was Joe Montana who went over John Stone, so I 788 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 3: get it. 789 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: We were double checking his work and back did a 790 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: pretty good job. He did a pretty good job. 791 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm not looking here to see if there's any other 792 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: Steelers through the years that may have made that list. 793 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: That I'm just trying to kick around, like late round 794 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: picks that were huge successes, like Antonio Brown's, like the 795 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: Poster Channel. 796 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah sure, yeah, I'm just looking here at some of 797 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: these ones that didn't have any honorable mentions. We had 798 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 3: some players that was like a little sketchy, like Art 799 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 3: Monk at eighteen had no honorable mentions. 800 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: That's funny. Yeah, well eighteen nineteen twenty I remember was 801 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: pretty weak. 802 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: Marquise Pouncey was the eighteenth pick in the twenty ten draft. 803 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh really, it should be an honorable mention at least, 804 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean minimum. We've got some other guys on this 805 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: list that are like, I mean a minimum. I think 806 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: Pouncey's a Hall of Fame finalist. 807 00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 3: Yeah he has to. Yeah, where are the goods? Going 808 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 3: back a little bit more here? I mean max starts 809 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: at seventy five. 810 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, my number was wolf picked. 811 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 3: Punch, Yeah, nineteen okay, I was just looking there for 812 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 3: Casey Hampton. First rounds tough, first round is difficult, but 813 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 3: there were some that only have one guy listed, And 814 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I. 815 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: Remember eighteen nineteen twenty ish, we're not real real strong. 816 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 3: Troy Edwards, that's a new. 817 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: Like I don't remember. Like wil Fork's name you mentioned. 818 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 3: No, that's another one. Like the defensive tackles kind of 819 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 3: get a little. 820 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a little short. I remember Richard Seymour's name. 821 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, yeah, some of those guys didn't didn't 822 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 3: cut the mustard there? Ninety four, no ninety three, no 823 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 3: ninety two? 824 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: What pick is? The Steelers have the eighty third pick 825 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: this year as well. Yes, that's right in the Stalwart 826 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: neighborhood Stalworth of Montana bo when eighty two. Right, yeah, right, 827 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: so you can get some there has been good stuff 828 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: mined in that neighborhood. 829 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Dawson was a forty fourth pick. 830 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: That was a good one. 831 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 3: That eighty seven draft was Rod Woodson at ten, Delton 832 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 3: Hall at thirty eight, Charles Lockett at sixty six, and 833 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 3: then Thomas and then Everett ninety four, Hardy Nickerson. 834 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: That's doesn't get talked about enough. 835 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 3: Maybe it was like one twenty two draft and then 836 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: Greg Lloyd at one fifty. 837 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's the pretty think about rebuilding your defense. 838 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 3: That's a pretty good one. I mean also got Meryl 839 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 3: Hodge Hodge that year at two sixty one. 840 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: Not like Belton Dalton Hall was a bad player, but 841 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: you get Woodson, Everett, Lockett, Lloyd for your defense for 842 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,479 Speaker 1: the next ten years or whatever. 843 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 3: When Charles Lockett was a wide receiver. 844 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: Who do I missing that? 845 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 3: There was four got Woodson, there was four starters, Everett, Everett, Lloyd, 846 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 3: and I guess that was really Cood Nickerson Nickerson Nickerson. 847 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were four, big time guy. 848 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 3: That's how you rebuild your team on the because they 849 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 3: were bad. Yeah yeah, yeah, eighty seven, eighty eight, they 850 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: were not. 851 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: A good football secondary must have been horrible. Yeah, first four. 852 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 3: Picks while they went out and did that. Yeah yeah, 853 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: and then you know you again, you follow it up out. 854 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 3: It took Carnell Lake. 855 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: The way I remember it too. There was a lot 856 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: of talk that Woodson might go to the Olympics, which 857 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: is maybe why he dropped a couple spots, and I 858 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: think he held out for a while he did, yeah, 859 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: because of the Olympic stuff, right. 860 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 3: So interesting it is. But yeah, that that's a heck 861 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: of an undertaking that. 862 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: Well can you imagine even just I thought he was 863 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: just gonna be the first round and then start two hundred. 864 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 3: When when your editor gives you that task, they said, Okay, 865 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in the room for about three weeks, right, 866 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 3: don't bother me. 867 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: I think you searched the internet like this. Has anyone 868 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: done this before? That I could take as a jumping 869 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: off point. 870 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: I mean, last year you go to draft test free 871 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 3: dot com and you can kind of go through and 872 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 3: pick out dudes. 873 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, who's doing through two hundred and 874 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: some picks. That's the thing you have to go. And 875 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like they went before the super like 876 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: Gail Sayers wasn't. 877 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a super boil. 878 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean at least you narrow it 879 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: down to what fifty five sixty drafts something like that. 880 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 3: It's not very narrowing, no, And it's growing larger like 881 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 3: Leon Leon is growing larger. 882 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: Two hundreds though too, Like who's even close? Right? First 883 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: round wouldn't be that bad, No, but you could. 884 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 3: I mean you'd have to go through draft. Not fun. 885 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: No, I like going through it. 886 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 3: I would not want to come after about a week. 887 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 3: Your eyeballs are going. Yeah, all right, let's knock out 888 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: the next one lot of izine. 889 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you gonna do today? I'm gonna do 890 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: picks fifty eight through one hundred and twelve. 891 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Now I can't argue with a lot of 892 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 3: what he had on there either. 893 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean that was on SI dot com. Yeah, okay, 894 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: so it's just well done. Interesting cool. Yeah, absolutely, let's 895 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I 896 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: am Dale Lallie. That's going to do it for our 897 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: number one of the drive. 898 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 3: Here on the Steelers Audio Network Matt Now, I'll be 899 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 3: back with our number two right after this