1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. It is single best idea. 2 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: We're thrilled with the initial response, thank you, particularly on Apple. 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody gets our podcast through Apple pretty much, 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: and we greatly appreciate the initial response. What we're doing 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: here is five minutes, six minutes, seven minutes tops with 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: two ideas, two conversation points from Bloomberg surveillance that we 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: did this morning today. There were so many good conversations. 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: We've even pushed one of today's conversations into tomorrow's podcasts. 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: For now, we're gonna start with liz Ane Saunders. So 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: it's great about this and I wantally want to sell 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: another podcast. You can listen to my podcast six minutes 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: you added on I mean, you know, it's what you do. 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: And you can also listen to Barry Redholtz on Masters 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: in Business in his podcasts, which is a conversation of 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: an hour in x minutes with liz Anne Saunders. It's 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: a brilliant effort by Barry as always and liz Anne Saunders. 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: We talked about her years at SCHWAB and the philosophy 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: of Schwab to the individual investor, which I completely stole 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: from Barry writ hol So Berry gets, he gets an er, 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: he gets a copyright royalty. Here today, I think it's like, 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, half a beverage or something like that. But 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: here's liz Ane Saunders. Later in our conversation on factor 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: investing on Quality on Dividends, we talked a little bit 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: about momentum being a challenge, but here is liz Anne 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: Sanders on factor investing. 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: What we have continued to do, though is focus on factors, 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: even a little bit more than sectors, and we still 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: think you want to stay up in quality. A momentum 29 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: has been a dominant factor. But what's interesting is that's 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: more of a concept than a factor. Momentum says thank you. 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: It just says these docs that have been working continue 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: to work. What you can do, though, because a lot 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: of comparisons are being made to the late nineties. Uh oh, 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: momentum as a factor is doing well right now. That's 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: the same thing happened in the nineties. But the actual 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: fundamental factor that was most highly correlated to momentum in 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: the late nineties was negative earnings. The factor right now 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: most positively correlated to momentum is our factors like high 39 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: return on equity strong, free cashlow, and a negative correlation 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: right now is negative earning. So momentum is just a concept. 41 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: You then have to look at what are the fundamentals 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: of the types of stocks that continue to do well, 43 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: And I think that's an important differentiation. 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Liz Anne Saunders there with some really interesting comments on 45 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: this equity market. The vogue of the moment drives me nuts. 46 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: This momentum investing, I have real trouble with it. I'm 47 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 1: much more where liz in is looking at quality as 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: being the dominant observable theme right now, subject to change, 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: but certainly that's what we've seen part of what we 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: do here. Then the advantage we have is what Matthew Winkler, 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: the editor in chief emeritus of Bloomberg News, invented, which 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: is the Bloomberg headline. They come in two forms. They 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: come out amberwaves are great, and they come out with 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: an amber color against the black background. And then when 55 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: they're important, they come out with a red which we 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: call a hot headline or even a red sticky. Is 57 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: sort of over thirty years what we call those headlines. 58 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: Paul Sweeney and my dialogue change this morning with red 59 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: stickies on this collapse of management at Boeing. I'm not 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: going to go into the details right now, but needless 61 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: to say it is their clients, their customers. The airlines 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: speaking that to me was a demonstrative thing over the 63 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: last three days, where you had O'Leary of Ryanair, you 64 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: had Kirby of United Airlines and others just saying enough, 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: there's gotta be some triage done. The triage is the 66 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: CEO out, the chairman out. There's a new head of 67 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: commercial Aerospace, Stephanie Pope, and mister Malinkoff of Qualcomm will 68 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: step in as the chairman. He's on the board down 69 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: he'll step in as chairman as they await a great 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: CEO search. We went to all of our good people 71 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: brook Sutherland and others on this. Of course out on 72 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: the cell side there's all these great names Kaivon Rumor 73 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: and Helene Becker together at TD Cowen is quality, but 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: one of the great names here is really studied for 75 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: decades aviation and the challenges of Boeing at this immediate 76 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: moment this morning was George Ferguson. 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: I mean they've run down, they've run down the road 78 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: of you know, of automotive folks in the past too, 79 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: and I think that's one thing i'd caught. 80 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: You, right. 81 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Automotive and Arab based are very different. Automotive much 82 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: higher volumes, right, and so very different business tolerances and 83 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: aerospace are much tighter. I don't know. I think i'd 84 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 3: be looking through some of the engine manufacturers and figuring out, 85 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: you know, who inside the engine manufacturers are really good, 86 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: really good at engineering, at manufacturing, and who could potentially 87 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: come over. Right, You've got David Joyce on the board. 88 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: You can help you figure out who you're the right 89 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: person might be. I'm not sure it's David Joyce, right, 90 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: but that might be one of the places I love. 91 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: George Ferguson of Bloomberg Intelligence there at providing some really 92 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: important perspective to get the week started. It's a four 93 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: day work week. I just want to say thank you 94 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: to all of you as we begin. Single Best Idea. 95 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: It's our short podcast here for Bloomberg Surveillance. Just two 96 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: ideas that we had in conversation today.