Speaker 1: To our remove galling deep spiegles peas do.
Speaker 2: From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
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Speaker 2: What is up, Dolph Fans? And welcome to the Drift
Speaker 2: Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on
Speaker 2: today's show, we continue our free agent interviews. A couple
Speaker 2: of offensive linemen down in the trenches, a couple of
Speaker 2: nice additions here with Aaron Brewer and Jack Driscoll. We'll
Speaker 2: get to know the guys, We'll get to talk about
Speaker 2: their games, we'll hear from the folks that covered them.
Speaker 2: All of that and a whole bunch more here from
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Speaker 2: This is the Drive Time Podcast, my chat with new
Speaker 2: Dolphins offensive lineman Aaron Brewer. Join now by new Dolphins
Speaker 2: offensive lineman Aaron Brewer. Aaron, Welcome into South Florida.
Speaker 3: Man, Thank you, thank you, glad to be here.
Speaker 2: So October twenty eighth is a pretty special day, right.
Speaker 2: I bring it up because that's my birthday. Is well,
Speaker 2: we share the same birthday, crazy.
Speaker 3: Right way, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, there's three hundred and sixty five days. There's like
Speaker 2: nine billion people in the world. You're gonna have the
Speaker 2: same birthday with some people, but you share a birthday
Speaker 2: with me. What's your favorite part about a late October birthday?
Speaker 3: Halloween spooky season?
Speaker 2: Same here? Yeah, like a favorite Halloween movie or anything?
Speaker 3: Favorite Halloween movie?
Speaker 2: Go with Halloween, Michael choice, Yes, sir, is there a
Speaker 2: certain one in the series that you like? There's like
Speaker 2: a billion of reason, good good stuff, an old soul.
Speaker 4: Maybe.
Speaker 2: All right, good deal, Let's go and talk some football here,
Speaker 2: because when I turn your tape on, hard pivot from
Speaker 2: Halloween to playing offensive line in the NFL. Right, but
Speaker 2: just watching you, like it takes one rep to see
Speaker 2: how you fit in this offense getting out of your
Speaker 2: stands fast and really escorting fast people into the end zone. Right,
Speaker 2: how do you think that your play style jives with
Speaker 2: what coach down you wants to do down here in
Speaker 2: South Florida.
Speaker 5: I feel like it being is perfect because all we
Speaker 5: bet like here about speed, Like you got speed on
Speaker 5: on the outside, you got speed in the back field,
Speaker 5: and that's what we're running.
Speaker 3: Like, that's that's me on speed. I'm getting to the
Speaker 3: second level fast.
Speaker 5: I'm running all over the field, sideline, the sideline, end
Speaker 5: zone and the end zone. So I feel like I
Speaker 5: feel perfect into this program.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I can watching your tape like
Speaker 2: seeing you running fifty yards down the field, like escorting
Speaker 2: either Derek Henry or Ti Tree spears into the end zone.
Speaker 2: It's fun to watch. My favorite part of your game personally.
Speaker 2: But for you, what's your favorite part about playing offensive
Speaker 2: line in the NFL?
Speaker 5: I say, justly, I love playing offense line, but I
Speaker 5: love this football as a whole. I feel like I'll
Speaker 5: play any position on the field like playing with the
Speaker 5: same passion I play offense alone with. But I just
Speaker 5: like just just being not just being aggressive, just competing and.
Speaker 2: The comarade with the guys too. I'm sure it's a
Speaker 2: big part of us.
Speaker 5: Well, locker room fourth from just like my personal feeling
Speaker 5: back fay out line like as a whole. Yes, like
Speaker 5: the guys like offense, like I got a different kind
Speaker 5: of mind like with each other. There's no other position
Speaker 5: on the team that like you all out there at
Speaker 5: one time, all together, like they're right next to each
Speaker 5: other and the success y'all have all depends on each
Speaker 5: other and how y'all work together in your relationship and communication.
Speaker 3: So like that's a different kind of bar And I
Speaker 3: really love.
Speaker 2: That it's like five individuals as one, right, and it's
Speaker 2: the kind of the one group in the NFL.
Speaker 3: It's like that right as a whole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this might be a question for my own
Speaker 2: curiosity because again, the speed, the athleticism getting out in
Speaker 2: space is so much fun to watch. But then to
Speaker 2: be able to like anchor against a three hundred and
Speaker 2: forty pound nose tackle is a rare blend that you
Speaker 2: just don't see that off in the NFL. What have
Speaker 2: you learned in your career about playing against guys that
Speaker 2: you're giving thirty forty, sometimes fifty pounds to in the middle.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, like many people know. But when
Speaker 5: I in college, I had played underweight as well. So
Speaker 5: like when I first went to college, like two twenty
Speaker 5: and so I had put on by like forty pounds
Speaker 5: into something got out to about two seventy, and so
Speaker 5: just really in my mindset, I had looked at it like,
Speaker 5: so I'm in the weight room, I got a strong
Speaker 5: lord bout it. I can squat five hundred, six hundred pounds.
Speaker 5: Nobody in the NFL or anybody go against it's going
Speaker 5: to be five hundred or six hundred pounds. So I
Speaker 5: feel like if I could put that on my baking squad,
Speaker 5: like I should be able to sit down anybody like
Speaker 5: because like what you got technique, sometime when you get
Speaker 5: the right levergs on people, the only thing you're doing
Speaker 5: is using your legs, so it ain't really too much
Speaker 5: to it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it helps you get under those guys' pasts a
Speaker 2: little bit, right under underneathing play that way. I'm curious.
Speaker 2: I got to know, Now, what's the diet like to
Speaker 2: gain forty pounds in one summer?
Speaker 5: Bro, When I tell you that was depressing, Like, so
Speaker 5: this is what they had me doing. I don't want
Speaker 5: to black, but because I literally I wake them in
Speaker 5: the morning. I eat two people in J's drink chocolate milk,
Speaker 5: Go eat breakfast, eat another people in J drink protein shake,
Speaker 5: my honey, finish that, go eat lunch, PBJ protein shake,
Speaker 5: dinner PBJ protein shake. Before I go to sleep, two
Speaker 5: more PPJ and some chocolate milk. And I was doing
Speaker 5: this every day awesome, like chugging every day people, uh
Speaker 5: PB and J's every day wake up, go to sleep,
Speaker 5: the same thing. You had to do that every day,
Speaker 5: and like until we did it from May to July
Speaker 5: August for this first game. And so in that love
Speaker 5: amount of time, I put on forty pans.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Can you even stomach playing burn Jill anymore?
Speaker 2: Is it like not something you want to eat anymore?
Speaker 3: At that time I had stopped eating for a minute.
Speaker 3: But like now I love PV.
Speaker 2: We have some incrustables that we we did some work
Speaker 2: on itwave yeah, exactly, you know what's going on there.
Speaker 2: So I read a quarter about years about the difference
Speaker 2: between playing center and guard in the NFL, and you
Speaker 2: allude to the idea of assisting on blocks more so
Speaker 2: than that head up contact. I'm curious about how those
Speaker 2: two things have helped the other, if that makes sense,
Speaker 2: Like playing center versus playing guard, how has those two
Speaker 2: things helped each other?
Speaker 5: I feel like playing both. I played tackle as well
Speaker 5: in college, so I didn't played left tackle, left guard, center,
Speaker 5: right guard, right tackle, And so just being in every position,
Speaker 5: I understand like what it takes to play that position,
Speaker 5: and so like what type of help you need or
Speaker 5: would you need to be successful with doing your job,
Speaker 5: and so I feel like it helped a lot being
Speaker 5: able to play the different positions then to go in
Speaker 5: the middle and kind of orchestrate what's going on.
Speaker 3: So I feel like it's being very beneficial towards me.
Speaker 2: When you play that center position. Do you take a
Speaker 2: lot of pride in like the line calls and making
Speaker 2: the checks and getting everything sorted out for the quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I'm I'm a team person, Like I like
Speaker 5: looking at for people and so like I feel like
Speaker 5: they just come natural with being in that center position.
Speaker 5: Like man, they just to help your brothers. Besides, you
Speaker 5: help your team and like just having the responsibility of
Speaker 5: setting the type and get stuff going.
Speaker 2: How excited a you block for a new quarterback here
Speaker 2: in town?
Speaker 5: I'm absolutely excited to block for to it Like he
Speaker 5: a special talent, So I can't wait to get in
Speaker 5: front of him, chop it up with him, and just
Speaker 5: get on the field with him.
Speaker 2: A couple of your ex teammates are going to be
Speaker 2: new teammates for you again here. I'm sure you're well
Speaker 2: aware of that. David Long and John Smith. Are you
Speaker 2: more excited to block for Tua on a pass for
Speaker 2: John U. Smith or climb the second level and take
Speaker 2: on David Long out there practice. I'd be a tough one.
Speaker 5: I like doing both, but I say probably getting out
Speaker 5: there on that screen, just in that opening space. I
Speaker 5: can still block David Long on that screen in space,
Speaker 5: have him on his toes a little bit. So I
Speaker 5: say probably getting at there on that screen. And Lenn
Speaker 5: John knew catch the ball and doing what he do best.
Speaker 2: I saw him taking a screen for sixty yard touchdown
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 3: He can move fast.
Speaker 2: Lottp be on this team and the guy that put
Speaker 2: all together Coach McDaniel. Have I had a chance to
Speaker 2: meet him yet, and what's your first impressions?
Speaker 5: I haven't, okay, and my first place like faird work
Speaker 5: on my heads genius. I say that I feel like
Speaker 5: he's really smart, like he understand the game on a
Speaker 5: different level, and I just love, like, hey you PUAs
Speaker 5: from what I seen, I haven't met him personally, but
Speaker 5: like from what I seen, I feel like he's a
Speaker 5: great dude, great coach and jeez, you know his stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you see is what you get. He's a
Speaker 2: genuine article for sure. How about coach Barry. Have you
Speaker 2: met your offensive line coach yet?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had met not too long ago. We chopped
Speaker 5: it up and he was pretty like he was straightforward
Speaker 5: with us and just trying to grow that condition, letting
Speaker 5: each other know, like what we want from each other
Speaker 5: with the expectation.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it for you here, but
Speaker 2: I have a coach bury impression that I feel pretty
Speaker 2: good about. Maybe after we get off the air here,
Speaker 2: we'll go ahead and do it for you here. Last question,
Speaker 2: I saw you talk about this. I'm not sure where
Speaker 2: I saw it, but better backflip you or Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3: I think I got to back. I think I do
Speaker 3: got it.
Speaker 2: It's pretty impressive. I mean you got a yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been flippings since I was a kid, though,
Speaker 3: like it just never went away.
Speaker 2: How How did you learn that?
Speaker 3: How I learned?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 5: When I was younger, I was a daredevil, So I
Speaker 5: just used to do a whole bunch of crazy shit.
Speaker 5: But so me and my cousin, like he liked my brother,
Speaker 5: but he started two years old and he started doing
Speaker 5: backfits whatever, and so I seen him and I tried it,
Speaker 5: but I couldn't do I like be doing outside ways quick,
Speaker 5: because it's like a lot of people can't do a
Speaker 5: backflip just because he's scared to go back absolutely and
Speaker 5: so like literally it was just one day I like
Speaker 5: I want to do it. The only way I was
Speaker 5: able to do it, I took got like in a
Speaker 5: full sprint, did the carlin just like just threw myself
Speaker 5: backwards and at the daylight after like being uncomfortable, like
Speaker 5: going there fast and throwing yourself like landing on your knees,
Speaker 5: landing on your face. Like over time usually get comfortable
Speaker 5: with it and it just become normal.
Speaker 2: It's like riding a bike. You can do anytime now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good stuff. Aaron Brewer, new Dolphins offensive linean appreciate your
Speaker 2: time today, man, thank you. Let's go ahead and slide
Speaker 2: one position, maybe two positions out to the tackle spot.
Speaker 2: He plays all five spots on the offensive line really
Speaker 2: in my chat with new Dolphins offensive lineman Jack Driscoll
Speaker 2: joined the podcast today. A new Dolphins offensive lineman Jack Driscoll. Jack,
Speaker 2: welcome in, man, oh, thank you, it's great to be here.
Speaker 2: So first time was a free agent. First time since
Speaker 2: like the college recruiting, right, you get a chance to
Speaker 2: go around look for a new team. How's that process been,
Speaker 2: and why the Dolphins?
Speaker 1: You know, it's been you know, it's been you know,
Speaker 1: hectic week, I would say, but you know when my
Speaker 1: agent kind of had callings at the Dolphins Rangers, and
Speaker 1: I was really excited, you know, I just you know,
Speaker 1: knowing the offense that they that they run here and
Speaker 1: you know, seeing how they use offensive linemen get the
Speaker 1: user athleticism, I.
Speaker 6: Was really excited. I'm really excited to be here.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's funny you mentioned that, because in doing
Speaker 2: some research on your background and everything, you can almost
Speaker 2: like set a watch to it. With the Dolphins and
Speaker 2: offensive lineman ten split times, they love guys that get
Speaker 2: off the line. Right, You're one seven four, which is
Speaker 2: the ninety third percentile for all tackles in combine history.
Speaker 2: You don't know if you knew that I did not
Speaker 2: very highly ranked in the ten split time. What does
Speaker 2: that explosive first step do for you in an offense
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 1: It's so important, you know, just it sets you up
Speaker 1: for success, you know, beause ultimately the guys across the
Speaker 1: ball from us are great athletes as well, So being
Speaker 1: like how I get that get off and just learning
Speaker 1: from guys like you know in Philly, from Kelsey and
Speaker 1: Lane and whatnot, and just you know, it's all they
Speaker 1: talk about, like in past bro that you know, when
Speaker 1: you are setting it's almost like one hundred meter races.
Speaker 1: But Lane would tell us, and you know, kind of
Speaker 1: seeing how that translate is huge. And just like you said,
Speaker 1: whoever gets off the ball first a lot of times
Speaker 1: does it have a upperhand on the play.
Speaker 2: So it sounds like you learned a lot from your
Speaker 2: four years in Philly with all the veteran experience on
Speaker 2: the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we had some great players room and
Speaker 1: I'm thankful my time there. I think it will help
Speaker 1: me be successful here.
Speaker 2: So one thing you all said in Philly was take
Speaker 2: snaps at both tackle spots and the right guard position
Speaker 2: and left guard.
Speaker 6: Just right guard practice a little bit.
Speaker 2: But okay, I figured everything I played practice. Okay, Well
Speaker 2: there you go, So all five okay, So like questions
Speaker 2: even easier. Then, what's the key to being a good
Speaker 2: swing guy that can play all five spots?
Speaker 1: Just have the right mindset and you know understand that
Speaker 1: you know when you're the swing guy and you're backing
Speaker 1: up that it's your job to you know, be accountable
Speaker 1: for everything. And you know I always took pride and
Speaker 1: trying to make sure that when I went in that
Speaker 1: there was no drop off of that. You know, Oh
Speaker 1: I'm in the game, that's not the reason we lose,
Speaker 1: you know, So just playing at high level, and you know,
Speaker 1: we had a high standard in our room. I know
Speaker 1: there's a high stand of this room too, so I
Speaker 1: know it's going to be you know, I have to
Speaker 1: bring my best every day these there's a lot of
Speaker 1: great players.
Speaker 6: In this whole line.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just like said, having a good attitude about it,
Speaker 1: and just you know, studying a craft, like watching different guys,
Speaker 1: you know, just really being prepared and just you know,
Speaker 1: doing the extra work after practice. You know, you like
Speaker 1: you said, you might only get reps at right guard
Speaker 1: at practice, but you might be playing left back in
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 6: So like, you know, you better get those reps on.
Speaker 2: So two follow ups to that, because number one, who's
Speaker 2: some guys that you have watched you're a big fan
Speaker 2: of in terms of studying their game?
Speaker 6: Guard?
Speaker 1: I always I always like to watch Zach Martin. You know,
Speaker 1: he was great, you know kind of at guard. You know,
Speaker 1: we've had so many good guys in Philly too, like
Speaker 1: Isaac sal Malewis from my watch lot Lane obviously playing
Speaker 1: behind him, and then you know Kelsey.
Speaker 6: You know, Kelsey is one of the best alignment of
Speaker 6: all time.
Speaker 2: And yeah, a lot of good options there. Something else
Speaker 2: I've heard coach McDaniel talk about before is something you
Speaker 2: touched on. It was coming into a game cold and
Speaker 2: he kind of compared offensive line played like quarterback in
Speaker 2: terms of how tough it can be to like, you're
Speaker 2: up right now, go block Aaron Donald right on this snap.
Speaker 2: I'm curious how challenging is there? What maybe what have
Speaker 2: you learned from when you know, pregame a once is
Speaker 2: three hours ago, you haven't taken a rep since then,
Speaker 2: and it's the middle of the fourth quarter. We have
Speaker 2: to get a game winning drive. Jack, You're in for
Speaker 2: the first rep. Like, how challenging is that? And what
Speaker 2: does it teacher? Who's a player?
Speaker 1: You know, it just teaches you a to be fountable,
Speaker 1: you know, be you know, it's like life, you ready
Speaker 1: at any time, you know, you never know what you know,
Speaker 1: let's got to throw at you in you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like I said, is just
Speaker 1: having that team first emphasis on you know, when I
Speaker 1: go in, whether it's like you said, last drive of
Speaker 1: the game or the first player or whatever, it is,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's all on you to get the
Speaker 1: job done. And you know, like I said, you have
Speaker 1: teammates counting on your coaches counting on you, and just
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the whole thing about drawing your
Speaker 1: strength from the guys around you and just you know,
Speaker 1: being tight with that core of the guys. Just understand,
Speaker 1: like I said, we're all us. Five are out here
Speaker 1: to get the job done. And no matter who which
Speaker 1: five it is, you know, we all have the same goals.
Speaker 2: So yeah, five guys, one position, one player. Really right,
Speaker 2: it's all one continuity.
Speaker 6: I will drive. Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 2: That's good. We'll have to bring that up to coach
Speaker 2: here later on. I always love asking guys about reunions.
Speaker 2: And you don't really have anybody who played in the
Speaker 2: pros with here, But I do know you played against
Speaker 2: two of our best players back in college, Tua and Wattle.
Speaker 2: What do you remember about those guys at Alabama?
Speaker 1: I remember Wattles was one we played in the iron
Speaker 1: Ball against Wattle. It was one of the most impressive
Speaker 1: against you own. It was one of the most impressive
Speaker 1: performance ever seen. Believe he had five touchdowns, I like
Speaker 1: return returning free touchdowns or like bully crap. You know,
Speaker 1: we're doing everything we can and this guy is just
Speaker 1: absolutely torturing enough. We did win the game though, I
Speaker 1: Will said we did win that game, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable. And you know Two is the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know, Two is such a great player. When he
Speaker 1: played him, I think it was eighteen, they blew us
Speaker 1: out and he you know, he was bolling. So I'm
Speaker 1: excited to you know, now you know, play against those
Speaker 1: guys and now you know, to get to be teammates
Speaker 1: with them, is me be really cool.
Speaker 6: And I know how special players they are.
Speaker 2: There's a screenshot from that Wattle kick return where one
Speaker 2: of your guys is he's not going to catch him,
Speaker 2: but he tries his hardest and lays out and he's
Speaker 2: like Wattles in a full sprint. He's like Superman behind him.
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite pictures in football history. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you're behind him, you just it's showing the telllights
Speaker 2: and way of goodbye. Two more here for you here.
Speaker 2: So your birthday is a holiday, and it's gotta be
Speaker 2: the toughest day besides maybe Christmas or things getting like
Speaker 2: for a kid that you know wants to have a
Speaker 2: different birthday than Christmas, the presence I'll go together. But
Speaker 2: a birthday on April fools, man, that could either play
Speaker 2: into your hands as like the ultimate tool or I
Speaker 2: feel like a could backfire. Is the most exhausting experience.
Speaker 2: What has been your experience on April first birthday?
Speaker 6: And off and down?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 6: I mean I've had, like you know, I'm and my
Speaker 6: mom one day she pated me bunch.
Speaker 1: Of oreos for school and I never yet you know
Speaker 1: oreos that's if one buying you know, his tooth based
Speaker 1: on no no, you know, so just stuff like that.
Speaker 6: But I like, say, I have a birthday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you say, it's tough becase those guys just
Speaker 1: Hilbret Christmas, their birthday is getting forgot, if you know,
Speaker 1: it's just all mashed.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So it's a good birthday.
Speaker 1: It kind of start a spring, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: good weather, March madness, you know. So yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: always an interesting birthday.
Speaker 2: I say that, So I mentioned doing background you went
Speaker 2: to your Instagram, saw that you got engaged in Floridaida
Speaker 2: and that was an inlet beach, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, don like Rosemary, but thirty A.
Speaker 2: A little different on the Panhills in South Florida, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: slightly different.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What do you think is the difference between those two
Speaker 2: parts of the of our state here, which is basically
Speaker 2: its own country.
Speaker 6: There's a lot, Yeah, you know, there's a lot.
Speaker 1: And I grew up coming to Florida, so I know,
Speaker 1: I grew up coming to Miami a bunch, but you know,
Speaker 1: just a heat all year round, just kind of paying.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little bit you know, more quaint,
Speaker 1: I would say, I'm on the Panhandle, whereas you know,
Speaker 1: South Florida is kind of the hustle and bustle, you know,
Speaker 1: more busy, more you know, of a young scene and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But I think both are great. I love the state
Speaker 1: of Florida, you know, Proud to be out here.
Speaker 2: Go home, Jack Triscoll, do Dolphins tackle Dolphins off of Lineman?
Speaker 2: Really really good stuff. They got to get Jack a
Speaker 2: little bit closer to the microphone next time he comes
Speaker 2: in here, but otherwise, really really good chats with those
Speaker 2: two guys, let's go ahead and take our first break,
Speaker 2: come back on the other side and do some analysis here.
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Speaker 2: by Auto Nation. Dast tape has been grounded, grinded ground
Speaker 2: I don't know the phrasing there, but Aaron Brewers tape man,
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and start with him first before Jack Driscold.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, like, going from watching years of interior
Speaker 2: offensive line play that hasn't been that great. And you know,
Speaker 2: I thought Connor Williams was very good the last two years.
Speaker 2: Robert Hunt has had a great career for the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: which got him paid twenty million bucks per year. Right,
Speaker 2: But on balance, we've seen you know, Leam Mikenberg try inside.
Speaker 2: We've seen Austin Jackson get kicked inside a few years ago.
Speaker 2: A handful of guys that played that position over the years,
Speaker 2: and I kind of got used to like guys in
Speaker 2: the ground, guys with their heads on a swivel in
Speaker 2: a bad way in terms of like what the hell
Speaker 2: is going on out here? That famous football clip of
Speaker 2: the young man, the blind young Man playing football? What
Speaker 2: the hell is going on? And just technique wise not good,
Speaker 2: like never the same arm hand, sorry say, the same
Speaker 2: hand leg punch combination where you time up your punch
Speaker 2: with your drop step or with your you know, getting
Speaker 2: your cleats in the ground to anchor and pad level
Speaker 2: and just all these things that cause blocks that just
Speaker 2: look bad, that look like how am I going to
Speaker 2: execute this block? Because I just don't have the fundamentals
Speaker 2: or the technique to handle it. Well, there's a reason
Speaker 2: that Aaron Brewer made the NFL at two hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty pounds. It's because his technique is nearly flawless, and
Speaker 2: he's gained you know, fifteen twenty pounds since then, getting
Speaker 2: close to three hundred pounds now. But that's how he
Speaker 2: wins with speed, explosiveness and elite like elite technique and fundamentals.
Speaker 2: He handles bigger bodies with pad level and leg drive
Speaker 2: and it's ridiculous how much push he can get considering
Speaker 2: his weight disadvantage, when he's able to pop you under
Speaker 2: your chest plate. And then he talked about on the
Speaker 2: podcast just a few minutes ago about his leg drive
Speaker 2: and squats and you see that power he plays with
Speaker 2: kind of has a dumpy body, right, squatty body. That's
Speaker 2: what those guys are supposed to look like. That's what
Speaker 2: he looks like. He drives guys off the football with
Speaker 2: that leg drive, and you pair that with flat out,
Speaker 2: no question, without even a moment of debate, by far,
Speaker 2: the most athletic center in the National Football League. He's
Speaker 2: pretty damn good man. He's so clean in the way
Speaker 2: he attaches and detaches, which is so critical for your
Speaker 2: man gap schemes, which the Titans ran plenty of, and
Speaker 2: it allows you to stay flexible in those types of
Speaker 2: blocks in an offense that wants to run wide zone
Speaker 2: and have a CounterPunch to this man in power. But
Speaker 2: also there are some counterlooks to those zone plays, like
Speaker 2: there's a play against the Colts tape last year where
Speaker 2: he takes a dummy step but counterstep to the left
Speaker 2: and there's a linebacker stacked right over the top of him,
Speaker 2: and he countersteps left, which gets linebacker to take one
Speaker 2: step that way, and then he fires back across his
Speaker 2: body with a change of direction and a crossover step
Speaker 2: that puts him like two yards wider than the linebacker,
Speaker 2: and at that point all he has to do is
Speaker 2: turn his button the gap and steal him off. And
Speaker 2: he does that and then drives him off the football
Speaker 2: and buries him in the turf there in Nashville. Like
Speaker 2: it's so impressive, and you know he can like he
Speaker 2: can help on a two technique in some of these
Speaker 2: looks because a lot of times, like not a lot
Speaker 2: of defenses, he's AA's play a strap zero technique, a
Speaker 2: beare front, you know, a front that has a nose
Speaker 2: tackle right over the center, and so oftentimes these guys
Speaker 2: are kind of firing off the ball and helping on
Speaker 2: blocks with the guards, and he can help on that
Speaker 2: two technique, which lines up head up over your left
Speaker 2: or right guard and then continues that leg drive up
Speaker 2: to the second level, and then he can get off
Speaker 2: of that block and then wall off a five technique,
Speaker 2: which is a guy that plays on the outside shoulder
Speaker 2: of your offensive tackle, and he can wall that guy
Speaker 2: off before he crashes inside on a slanting rush. Doesn't
Speaker 2: get stuck on those blocks as a double man almost ever,
Speaker 2: which I've seen the Dolphins do oh many times over
Speaker 2: the last decade plus. The way he strikes when he's
Speaker 2: out flanked by pass rushers like anything outside of a
Speaker 2: zero or one technique is with quickness and punching first.
Speaker 2: But here's where he's gotten beaten the past, based on
Speaker 2: the tape that I watched, if the two technique head
Speaker 2: up over the guard the two I which is inside
Speaker 2: shoulder of the guard, or your three technique, which is
Speaker 2: inside shoulder of the tackle or outside shoulder of the guard,
Speaker 2: I should say, if they can absorb or withstand his
Speaker 2: initial pop, which is pretty aggressive and pretty strong, they
Speaker 2: can then use his momentum because he knows he has
Speaker 2: to get out there fast and win with that quickness,
Speaker 2: they can kind of use that momentum against him and
Speaker 2: hip toss him, and he can either get grabby in
Speaker 2: that sense and pull a guy down on the turf
Speaker 2: or just flat out get thrown out of the play
Speaker 2: and lose the pass rush rep as it is, but
Speaker 2: man doesn't happen frequently because the punch is hardwired to
Speaker 2: the feet. He consistently gets his feet under his shoulder
Speaker 2: pads in order to be on balance when he does strike,
Speaker 2: and when he's not in position, you see the quickness
Speaker 2: to shuffle over and get in position. He is very
Speaker 2: aware of how it's supposed to look from a technique standpoint,
Speaker 2: and he frequently is in a great position to make
Speaker 2: those things happen. I just I can't reiterate enough how
Speaker 2: low he plays defensive tackles. There's a technique it's called
Speaker 2: making a pile where they'll recognize a double team and
Speaker 2: they will turn their back and drop their knee and
Speaker 2: just try to pull the cloth of the jersey of
Speaker 2: both offensive linemen and cause a two on one pile.
Speaker 2: Looks if I take out two offensive linemen, you're at
Speaker 2: a disadvantage in the numbers game here blocking wise. And
Speaker 2: he can thwart this because he plays so damn low
Speaker 2: and can get this controlled ribshot on those guys and
Speaker 2: knock them back while he stays on his feet. There's
Speaker 2: just there's no wasted movement in his game, fluid mover.
Speaker 2: I saw him reach block of four eye technique, which
Speaker 2: is inside shoulder of the tackle, turn the butt inside
Speaker 2: and wall that thing off for now see gap rip.
Speaker 2: For Dereck Henry, everything he does is fully intentional. I've
Speaker 2: seen enough bad offensive line play to see what looking
Speaker 2: confused looks like. He's never that. He always is aware
Speaker 2: of what's coming. He's consistently hitting the right targets, getting
Speaker 2: his feet under him, retaining his punch until it's necessary,
Speaker 2: quiet hands, kind of like a wide receiver, and he's
Speaker 2: never on the ground like he can anchor. There's a
Speaker 2: bull rush from to Forrest Buckner as the three technique
Speaker 2: slanting inside, and he played tackle in college. You heard
Speaker 2: him talk about it there. It's so clear that he did,
Speaker 2: because on this rep he's got it's like a third
Speaker 2: and long. So their NASCAR package wide rushers, nobody inside
Speaker 2: the three technique position. Buckner is the closest guy to
Speaker 2: him inside, and he slants across the face of the
Speaker 2: guard for a bull rush on Brewer because that's two
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety five pounds or rather three twenty pounds
Speaker 2: against two hundred ninety five pounds, and he wants to
Speaker 2: bowl rushman, put brew on his back, and then clear
Speaker 2: up that a gap on either side. He just throws
Speaker 2: this beautiful kickslide where he drops steps and handles him
Speaker 2: with one headed punch and the cleats hit the turf
Speaker 2: at the same time that his hands hit the pats.
Speaker 2: That is synchronicity you want from your offensive lineman. He's
Speaker 2: a fantastic player. Man. I think that there's some concerns
Speaker 2: about the size and what it can do against bigger
Speaker 2: players on the interior, but he can so frequently out
Speaker 2: technique those guys that he can win. And then when
Speaker 2: you get that going on top of the athletic ability,
Speaker 2: no one moves like him in the entire National Football League.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a ton of fun with this guy.
Speaker 2: He is, I think, a better fit here than even
Speaker 2: Connor Williams was, And I thought Connor Wims is the
Speaker 2: top five center in the NFL the last two years.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Aaron Well brute will be that he
Speaker 2: can be that, but I think that he's a better
Speaker 2: fit stylistically for the counter game, the jet sweep, the
Speaker 2: reverse game, all the different action encounters and stuff than
Speaker 2: McDaniel has in his back pocket. Brewer is the quintessential
Speaker 2: fit for the Dolphins offense in that regard. How about
Speaker 2: Jack driscoll, a guard slash tackle slash played some center
Speaker 2: and practice formerly the Philadelphia Eagles, coming to Miami for
Speaker 2: his fifth year as a pro. And there's right guard tape,
Speaker 2: there's right tackle tape, tackle tape, and as you heard
Speaker 2: Jack say, himself. He has played left guard and center
Speaker 2: in practices as well, So very position diverse, very flexible
Speaker 2: in terms of what he can offer you, and honestly
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. I know this is probably
Speaker 2: gonna not sound great to a law of Dolphins fans.
Speaker 2: Kind of reminds me of Jesse Davis in that way.
Speaker 2: Not like twenty twenty Jesse Davis. Maybe more like twenty
Speaker 2: seventeen Jesse Davis when he was playing some good games
Speaker 2: off the bench there here and there. But my notes
Speaker 2: on Jack are he comes off the football quickly. I
Speaker 2: mean that's a non negotiable in this offense. I think
Speaker 2: his past sets in a phone booth at the right
Speaker 2: guard position are very nice. You see those quick feet translate.
Speaker 2: I think a little bit better inside in terms of
Speaker 2: how he can wall off some of those pass rushes
Speaker 2: from a three technique or a two technique. He's super,
Speaker 2: super effective as a poler. All the stuff that goes
Speaker 2: with athletic ability, right like his quickness in a road environment,
Speaker 2: which is something I don't think you consider on tape
Speaker 2: most of the times unless you are a Dolphins media
Speaker 2: member or analyst or whatever you call it. Because we
Speaker 2: saw how many times the Dolphins had issues getting their
Speaker 2: calls in and getting everybody on sync for the snap
Speaker 2: and having no pre snap alignment issues was an issue
Speaker 2: right of itself, and his ability to you know how
Speaker 2: the right guard often is the one that triggers the
Speaker 2: snap on road environments, kind of taps the center and
Speaker 2: then the center looks down, looks back up, snap comes up.
Speaker 2: His ability to do that and then get back into
Speaker 2: a position to get off the football first is it
Speaker 2: jumps off the tape. You see it very quickly and
Speaker 2: whether it's straight ahead forty five degree angle turn and pull,
Speaker 2: he is just quick out of his stance. Now, this
Speaker 2: is where I think that butcher Berry earns his salt,
Speaker 2: so to speak, like he did last year with a
Speaker 2: couple Dolphins offensive lineman because there's a lot of what
Speaker 2: I would consider a twenty twenty one Austin Jackson tape here,
Speaker 2: where there's impressive flashes of dominance that show you the
Speaker 2: skill set that made this guy a high draft pick.
Speaker 2: But then there's also a bunch of weird reps where
Speaker 2: it looks totally out of sorts, like it kind of
Speaker 2: reminds me of me on the golf course or sometimes
Speaker 2: so at least the last my play to birdie one
Speaker 2: hole triple the next I don't get that many triples,
Speaker 2: but it is in my bag. But I also can't
Speaker 2: get past just some of the fundamental shortcomings, and I
Speaker 2: think bleed into bad technique that reduces any semblance of power,
Speaker 2: feet stopping on contact, taking false steps. Is always isn't
Speaker 2: always on balance because he kind of leans into blocks
Speaker 2: instead of driving through them, and that's the feet going
Speaker 2: down on contact thing. He does sometimes at the right
Speaker 2: tackle position set to wide and that opens the strike
Speaker 2: zone for the edge rusher to come through, or at
Speaker 2: the right guard position for a three technique to kind
Speaker 2: of see him open up that wide base, get the
Speaker 2: hands spread apart and expose the chest plate, which then
Speaker 2: allows the defender to control the rep at that point.
Speaker 2: The change of direction anytime he has to kind of shuffle,
Speaker 2: replace slide get back from an overseet not really in
Speaker 2: his bag but a tackle. I like the quickness for
Speaker 2: his ability to get a deep kickslide that helps him
Speaker 2: cut off the arc. And there's some of the same
Speaker 2: stuff from the guard position in the running game too,
Speaker 2: where he can counter tray wham trap just get to
Speaker 2: and landmarks a little bit quicker than most guys at
Speaker 2: that position, at that size can do. So there's a
Speaker 2: lot there I think. I think ideally, I believe this
Speaker 2: is like your sixth guy in a lot of positions,
Speaker 2: is my hope. We will see what it looks like
Speaker 2: come the spring, and I'm excited to see what the
Speaker 2: coaching staff can do with him and how they can
Speaker 2: maximize his skill set because there is a lot of
Speaker 2: talent in there. I think technique could be cleaned up,
Speaker 2: and that's what coaches are paid to do. So a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff in there. Let's go ahead and take
Speaker 2: our last break right there. Come back on the other side,
Speaker 2: and here from Tarn Davenport. We do not have a
Speaker 2: guest for Jack Driscold. Today, we'll hear from Tarn Davenport
Speaker 2: from he covers the Titans. We'll talk to him about
Speaker 2: Aaron Brewer. That's next Draft Time podcast. Your host, Travis Wingfield,
Speaker 2: brought to you by Auto Nation. Joining us now is
Speaker 2: ESPN's NFL Nation reporter covering the Tennessee Titans. Tarn Davenport
Speaker 2: and Tron welcome back into the Drive Time podcast.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, I appreciate you having you man, It's always
Speaker 4: good to talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, always happy to get you on here talking about
Speaker 2: some x Titans. That seems like we have on here
Speaker 2: for every time you come on the podcast here. But
Speaker 2: before we get into that, I want to ask you
Speaker 2: a couple of questions about the person. But first just
Speaker 2: his general usage and talking of course about Aaron Brewer,
Speaker 2: the former Titans offensive lineman now here with your Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: because when you watch his tape, like the athleticism, the speed,
Speaker 2: the ability to get to the second level, all those
Speaker 2: things really jump out of you, especially through a Dolphin's lens,
Speaker 2: where our run game emphasizes those things. But in Tennessee,
Speaker 2: it was like power, bigger players around him, you know,
Speaker 2: between the tackles, downhill balling style offense. I'm curious what
Speaker 2: you made of his play style compared to what the
Speaker 2: Titans kind of identity was on offense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think you know, they did a lot
Speaker 7: of wide zone that was one of Derrick Henry's strong points,
Speaker 7: and they did a lot of zone blocking in addition
Speaker 7: to power.
Speaker 4: It was like a mixture of the two.
Speaker 7: But when they go zone, I think when you look
Speaker 7: at Aaron Brewer, you kind of think of those centers
Speaker 7: like Jason Kelsey. I'm not comparing the greatness, but just
Speaker 7: the ability to get out in the open and move
Speaker 7: under control with speed and able to throttle down and
Speaker 7: destroy second level defenders.
Speaker 4: And that's what you see him able to do.
Speaker 7: And that's one of the things that stood out to
Speaker 7: me about him, and I thought they did a good
Speaker 7: job there. But as you mentioned, when they went to
Speaker 7: like power schemes those types of things, it doesn't really
Speaker 7: match because he's not the biggest guy.
Speaker 4: He's strong, but he's not the biggest guy.
Speaker 7: And actually, and when you're giving up, you know, twenty
Speaker 7: to thirty pounds to certain defenders, it's harder to move them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem like a lot of teams have
Speaker 2: shifted more towards a balance of those two run styles,
Speaker 2: because like the Niners do it now under Shanahan, the
Speaker 2: Rams with McVeigh. I mean, these teams that have kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, written the book on wide zone outside zone
Speaker 2: running schemes have more power in their playbook. And the
Speaker 2: Dolphins actually put together a game winning drive last year
Speaker 2: with a pretty much power running game against the Cowboys
Speaker 2: on Christmas Eve, And I'm curious to Ron because like
Speaker 2: you talk about, you know, the mix of those two
Speaker 2: things there. Did you guys ever talk to me about
Speaker 2: that in the media in terms of the challenges that
Speaker 2: he faces because of his playing weight, his play style,
Speaker 2: in terms of going up against those bigger guys, because
Speaker 2: you're going to see bigger nose tackles, and I mean
Speaker 2: I thought, by and large, he really held his own
Speaker 2: against a lot of teams across the league.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Now that's something I personally had asked him about a
Speaker 7: lot of times because I know there were rumors that
Speaker 7: he was like two sixty five. I asked about his
Speaker 7: weight and he said he was up to the two nineties.
Speaker 4: We talked about his diet.
Speaker 7: And things like that, you know, what he would do
Speaker 7: to get that weight to where it needed to be
Speaker 7: and maintain it. And he going against bigger guys when
Speaker 7: that was something that we discussed. And he just always
Speaker 7: talked about the use of leverage, and I think when
Speaker 7: you are able to mix leverage into your game, it
Speaker 7: helps you at times to outdo those size disadvantages. And
Speaker 7: Mike Vrabel he in fact Joe and caught him tougher
Speaker 7: than a two dollars stake and I think when you
Speaker 7: look at that analogy, it applies because the way he's
Speaker 7: able to hold his own at times against guys who
Speaker 7: are much bigger. But I think it really comes down
Speaker 7: to leverage and technique. How he's able to use that
Speaker 7: and that helps him hold his own against the bigger defenders.
Speaker 4: And you got to look even further. He has a
Speaker 4: lot of heart.
Speaker 7: You know, this is a guy who was an underdog,
Speaker 7: came from a very small school, and he managed to
Speaker 7: you know, go from an undrafted free agent outside chance
Speaker 7: to make the roster to eventually become a d starting
Speaker 7: center at least for a season for the Titans. So
Speaker 7: I'll just let you know that the fight is in him,
Speaker 7: and I think, you know, he's somebody that will really
Speaker 7: match with what the Dolphins do as far as like
Speaker 7: everything is movement and fast and speed and agility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the fit there is obvious, But what
Speaker 2: you just said was kind of revealing because that's what
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, that's his entire journey was. You know, everyone
Speaker 2: told me couldn't do it. And he likes to collect
Speaker 2: players in his locker room to have that similar mindset
Speaker 2: because it kind of creates a camaraderie and a bomb
Speaker 2: between those guys, and it sounds like Aaron Brewer is
Speaker 2: gonna fit right in with that. And also to your
Speaker 2: point about you know those bigger bodies like man, when
Speaker 2: I watch him play, he's like the first guy off
Speaker 2: the snap as the center, which is so difficult to
Speaker 2: do to snap the ball then get in space, and
Speaker 2: he's so quick off the snap that I think it
Speaker 2: gives him a lot of, like you talk about advantages
Speaker 2: in that leverage.
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, I mean he who gets his hands on
Speaker 7: the other man first typically wins.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, exactly right. So really good stuff there, and
Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit more about just
Speaker 2: being around the guy the person here for a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes. I believe the last time we had you,
Speaker 2: I was talking about David Long and that worked out
Speaker 2: pretty damn well for us. So hoping to go two
Speaker 2: for two with this next one here, and I'm fired
Speaker 2: up about Aaron Brewer. Man. I think I'll start with
Speaker 2: this spot talking about kind of the maturation and the
Speaker 2: mental side of it. He's played all the interior spots
Speaker 2: and I always find that fascinating for offensive linemanhouse seamlessly
Speaker 2: they can switch positions like that because it's a different
Speaker 2: job really in different roles and it's a different, you know,
Speaker 2: game that you're playing. I'm curious how you would describe
Speaker 2: his eagerness or his willingness to play go to play center,
Speaker 2: and just the volatility of switching spots like that, because
Speaker 2: that was his career the first few years. How did
Speaker 2: he approach being kind of a jack of all trades
Speaker 2: on the inside.
Speaker 7: Yeah, for him, it was really just about attacking and
Speaker 7: getting in where he could fit it, and that was
Speaker 7: his thing where he knew that he was, you know,
Speaker 7: a guy who was on the fringe of the rosters,
Speaker 7: so he was just trying to find a way to
Speaker 7: fit in any way possible. I think when you look
Speaker 7: at just the ability to play center and guard, it's
Speaker 7: a big difference because I mean, still, you're in the
Speaker 7: phone booth and everything's coming at you fast and all
Speaker 7: that stuff.
Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent true. But the other thing.
Speaker 7: That you have to look at is just the fact
Speaker 7: that you got to snap the ball and get your
Speaker 7: head up in time to get that guy who's in
Speaker 7: front of you, and that's no easy task. And then
Speaker 7: on top of that, you got to make sure that
Speaker 7: the ball is getting where it needs to be to
Speaker 7: the quarterback. So a lot of that is you know, difficult,
Speaker 7: but he's able to manage to do that, and I think,
Speaker 7: you know, that's a credit to him. And then you
Speaker 7: just look at the person that he is. You know, again,
Speaker 7: like I said, the underdog part of it. You know,
Speaker 7: the guy he was, he was not even on the radar.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: In fact, John Stretcher, who was Mike Frabele's personal assistant,
Speaker 7: he was the one that that kind of found him
Speaker 7: so to speak, and put him onto the Scouts and
Speaker 7: you know, he just worked his way into into the system.
Speaker 7: And I think, you know, when you look at at Brew,
Speaker 7: he was one of my favorite guys to talk to
Speaker 7: in the locker room, whereas like you know, he's somebody
Speaker 7: that I would go to until not about football at
Speaker 7: the time, just you know, about other stuff. And it's
Speaker 7: always cool to have that type of relationship with with
Speaker 7: a player. And that's something that I'm sure you guys
Speaker 7: are going to experience because he's he's a really cool dude.
Speaker 4: He's into fashion, he's into music.
Speaker 7: You know, his I G page is always interesting, just
Speaker 7: and his his pregame outfits and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: It was cool to document those things.
Speaker 2: That's exactly why I wanted to have Toron devinport On
Speaker 2: from ESPN covering the Titans for ESPN, I should say,
Speaker 2: really good stuff. There. One last question for you here
Speaker 2: at to Aron before I get you out of here.
Speaker 2: What about the leadership and the role of being that
Speaker 2: conduit between play caller and quarterback as the center, because
Speaker 2: it's just such a unique position in this league where
Speaker 2: you're kind of, you know, biking line checks for the
Speaker 2: most part. How did you, I guess, grade him as
Speaker 2: it were in terms of his ability to communicate protections
Speaker 2: and just be that trusted voice in the middle of
Speaker 2: the offensive line for a quarterback room that you know,
Speaker 2: saw three different guys play this year. What did you
Speaker 2: kind of make of his ability to be a stabilizing
Speaker 2: force in the middle of the Titans offensive line from
Speaker 2: a communication and just leadership standpoint.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's one of the things I like the most
Speaker 7: about camp is you get to be there for the
Speaker 7: full practice and there's not a bunch of noise and
Speaker 7: stuff like that. You could hear them communicate and and
Speaker 7: and talk, and that's something that he did a really
Speaker 7: good job with I remember around this time last year,
Speaker 7: I guess more like next month in April, and may
Speaker 7: like leading up to many camp I remember when it
Speaker 7: was clear that he was the starting center, asking him
Speaker 7: about that leadership and being the quarterback of the offense
Speaker 7: as far as the offensive line is concerned, and he
Speaker 7: said that that's something that he took personally, and then
Speaker 7: he was in the quarterbacks room with them at times,
Speaker 7: you know, in addition to the offensive line, you know,
Speaker 7: just trying to make sure that that communication was as
Speaker 7: clear and concise as possible. So I think that's an
Speaker 7: example of how how seriously he takes it and how
Speaker 7: much he wants to make sure that it's all.
Speaker 2: Fort Thron Davenport covers Tennessee Titans for ESPN at TD Davenport,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time today. Drive to
Speaker 2: wherever you're getting safely, and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4: Man. Thank you all right, for sure. I appreciate you.
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