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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Wanna throw by Kyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the

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Speaker 3: five and end of the end zone for the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: On the NZO pickoff.

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Speaker 1: Hiz hear White with the interception, the latest news and

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Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Tyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh that was nasty

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Speaker 2: right there.

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Speaker 3: Rights slam the ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic.

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Speaker 2: I know they play every single game for a reason,

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Speaker 2: so I don't want to ruin the suspense. But after

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals win on Sunday, then we're going to reconvene

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Speaker 2: next week. I don't want to you know, pre empty

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Speaker 2: athletic process or anything, but there are well, there's one

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Speaker 2: primary reason why the Cardinals are going to beat the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers in Week eighteen. Not sure if you

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Speaker 2: guys are able to hit rewind all the way to

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the season. One of the big factors

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Speaker 2: the Honolulu Blueprint, where if you play the Lions, what

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Speaker 2: happens to you the very next week?

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Speaker 4: Have you been keeping up with that, Paul? Do you

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Speaker 4: know what it's happened? Though?

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Speaker 2: I bailed a little bit early, actually went to five

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Speaker 2: and zero, and then somebody broke the chain it was

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Speaker 2: it became five and one, and then I lost interest.

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Speaker 2: You know add around here you.

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Speaker 4: Lost interest, and then you've brought it back.

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Speaker 5: Now sure, Why are you being a hater? I'd like

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Speaker 5: to hear the rest of Paul's theory.

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Speaker 4: Oh but he doesn't have That's the problem is he

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Speaker 4: has a theory, but he doesn't he didn't do the research.

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Speaker 2: I mean, where's Grilu? I mean, come on, Griolu put

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Speaker 2: in a full week around here. That's that's where Craig

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Speaker 2: Griolou comes in for that sort of stuff. Hashtag no math.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you guys thought I was going to say

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Speaker 2: maybe because brock Perdy isn't expected to play, or maybe

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Speaker 2: because the forty nine ers are on a short week

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Speaker 2: or maybe the Cardinals know Josh Dobbs more on the

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Speaker 2: past or not a little bit later. But don't forget

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Speaker 2: about the physicality factor the Niners. Going now about how

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Speaker 2: about the forty nine ers with was it two former

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Speaker 2: Cardinals on their offensive line in that game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were rotating at left tackle, Charlie Heck and

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Speaker 4: Austin Pleasants, who both were on the practice squad this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go. I take that as a

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Speaker 2: good sign. Actually, whenever former Cardinals are in the lineup elsewhere,

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Speaker 2: I actually take that as a positive. Actually nodded at

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Speaker 2: the screen and said, Okay, that's good, because when you

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Speaker 2: have enough talent right that hits the street and makes

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Speaker 2: other teams, that usually is a sign that you're at

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Speaker 2: least going in the right direction in terms of personnel.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, Charlie Heck, he didn't even hit the streets.

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Speaker 4: He was on the practice squad and the forty nine

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Speaker 4: ers swooped in and took him away.

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Speaker 2: All right. So, and then the Cardinals had a cornerback

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Speaker 2: who was recently claimed by someone and his name eludes me.

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Speaker 2: And of course you'll remember it, Darren, because you're winning

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Speaker 2: that your guy, there you go divide Wilson, Wilson. This

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Speaker 2: is a no Marca Wilson zone. That's right, no math

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Speaker 2: and no Marco. And that'll be our intro to Cardinals Underground,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Pacific Office. You Too, Automation. Paul KELVC,

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Speaker 2: Danny Sirek, Darren Urban. Darren seems a little overdressed for

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Speaker 2: this New Year's Eve edition? Is there something there?

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Speaker 4: Let's let's look along.

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Speaker 2: You're going right to a party from this?

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Speaker 4: Is that you're saying? I mean sometimes there's a dress

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Speaker 4: code here, Paul, I don't know if you're aware of that.

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Speaker 2: I see.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Actually, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be dead honest

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Speaker 4: about this. Paul is the last person I would ever

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Speaker 4: get on for the dress code. That's right, everybody, everybody

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Speaker 4: else in our department. I might, but Paul I would not.

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Speaker 5: All is the only person who does not partake in

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Speaker 2: True, that's true.

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Speaker 4: I said I was being honest.

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Speaker 2: You know why, because I never remember, and that should

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Speaker 2: be that should be no surprise to anyone who's followed

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Speaker 2: Wise Guy trivia all year long.

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Speaker 5: I can't even don't remember to just casually.

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Speaker 2: I can't even remember it's casual address Friday, much less

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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four. Okay, now, don't even think. Don't

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Speaker 2: even answer that, don't even don't even answer that. All right,

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Speaker 2: how was the La experience? Mean? No, see, that's what

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Speaker 2: I don't need, right experience.

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Speaker 5: I had a great week in in La. We celebrated

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Speaker 5: Kevin's birthday and our department, one of our videographers who

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Speaker 5: was on the road, and it was a perfect if

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Speaker 5: you know Kevin, which nobody listening does. The best way

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Speaker 5: to celebrate Kevin's birthday is exactly what we did. We

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Speaker 5: went to a Korean barbecue restaurant that was also a

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Speaker 5: karaoke restaurant. So you went and it was a private

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Speaker 5: room and there was a whole group of us singing

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Speaker 5: karaoke for two and a half hours. It was a

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Speaker 4: I could definitely see pulsinging carryo oh the key.

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Speaker 2: There would be dinner before the karaoke, otherwise you lose

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Speaker 4: So I trust you would be the drinks before the karaoke.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Well, I've seen both of you at work

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Speaker 2: at karaoke in Nashville. We won't talk about that. Let's

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Speaker 2: get back to the game. And where do you want

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Speaker 2: let's just go right to the Trey McBride, because it

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Speaker 2: seems like everyone is still talking about the fateful play

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Speaker 2: at the goal line around the horn, we go thoughts, assessments.

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Speaker 2: Does that leave some sort of indelible mark that goes

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Speaker 2: into the off season. Seems like you can almost escape

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Speaker 2: or evade anything on a week to week basis, but

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Speaker 4: See, I'm going to disagree just because of where they were. Now.

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Speaker 4: I will say this. In the seconds after it happened,

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Speaker 4: my oldest son in our family group chat, which is

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Speaker 4: and myself, he put in there, He goes, I'm just

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Speaker 4: gonna tell you right now, I'm glad we didn't win

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Speaker 4: to handle it, but they had been from the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, when you look at that play, the thing

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Speaker 5: that stands out the most is just being unlucky. The

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Speaker 5: Cardinals are right there on the five yard line. I

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Speaker 5: like the play called Finie McBride. His defender was behind him,

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Speaker 5: he was past the goal line. The ball came out fast.

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Speaker 5: It was a good play, and quarterback Kyler Murray was

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Speaker 5: right when he said postgame, ninety nine percent of the

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Speaker 5: time they make that play. It was a combination of

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Speaker 5: as Murray zipped that ball, because that ball came out

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Speaker 5: made a leaping catch for it and intercepted the ball

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Speaker 5: I like trying to find McBride wasn't able to get

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Speaker 5: responsibility for that post game. I think it was just

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Speaker 5: something more of being unlucky and that situation and that's

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna how I would chime in is I've had

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Speaker 4: people talk to me about why the Cardinals weren't running

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Speaker 4: the ball. I don't have a problem with a play call.

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Speaker 4: I really don't. And if you hear Trey McBride talking

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Speaker 4: if we would execute it.

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Speaker 2: They got zero, so they brought seven. That was the

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Speaker 2: perfect play.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about they should have run.

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Speaker 4: That's Monday morning quarterbacking, which is what we're doing anyways,

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Speaker 4: but it's Tuesday. The other thing is it's not just

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Speaker 4: like I know people want to get mad. Did Kyler

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Speaker 4: throw it too hard? Blah blah blah blah. Like the

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Speaker 4: long enough that that dude could come off as a

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Speaker 4: Jones and die for the ball and still almost let

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Speaker 4: think it's bad luck. Obviously, not everybody wants to hear that.

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Speaker 4: Obviously you don't. You can't mess up a chance like this,

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Speaker 4: But no offense Kurt Warner, But that's not like the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl interception where you throw right to them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's start with a guy who intercepted it.

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Speaker 2: A Kella Witherspoon just happens to be a six to

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Speaker 2: that because an NFL network they actually gave the measurables

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Speaker 2: right and tried to Paul's jealous illustrate the point that

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Speaker 2: But from a Cardinal's perspective, what was vaccine was the

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Speaker 2: fact that number four was getting torch all game long.

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Speaker 2: He was not having a good game. Different Cardinals receivers

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Speaker 2: Number two, someone who was played and coach for a

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Speaker 2: throw wasn't necessarily that it had too much v low

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Speaker 2: on it, as they say in baseball. Steve Smith Senior

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Speaker 2: problem with how hot he said too much hot sauce

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Speaker 2: on that throw. I was told by someone who should

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Speaker 2: know that the problem with the throw was it wasn't

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, so if it's incomplete, it's not interception. For

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Speaker 2: the exact reason for what happened is there's no deflection

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Speaker 2: it doesn't deflect up in the air.

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Speaker 5: That's the unfortunate luck is that was a first down

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Speaker 5: feeling that they would have found a way to find

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Speaker 4: Of those other have been three more plays because you

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Speaker 2: I look, and by the way, the Cardinals have been

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Speaker 2: practicing that for at least two months at play and

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Speaker 2: they were really confident in that play.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, I'm not dismissing the idea that the

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Speaker 4: ball placement should have been better. And I think once

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Speaker 4: Kyler looked at the video, which we haven't talked to

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Speaker 4: him since he looked at the video, I'm sure he's

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Speaker 4: gonna say the same thing. He'd be dumb not to.

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Speaker 4: But again I'm not in the context of what we're

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Speaker 4: It didn't get intercepted, Like that's what happens to most

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Speaker 2: But there's so many other singular play if the game's

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Speaker 4: Of course, bottom line is they scored one touchdown and

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Speaker 4: they had almost four hundred yards of offense. Take away

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Speaker 2: Probably one for four in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. And when I say lasting Mark,

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Speaker 2: I just wonder Trey McBride, you know, as pumped out

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Speaker 5: It didn't even play every game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so his one hundred receptions this year, he's

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Speaker 2: I mean that it should have been such a joyous

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Speaker 5: Isn't it also the milestone second tight end in franchise history,

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's another ding, so it's a triple ding game.

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Speaker 5: Thankfully, he got his first receiving touchdown on his ninety

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Speaker 2: Positive, remember the old Steve Young when he won the

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Speaker 5: There is not going to be a lasting impression. Negatively,

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Speaker 5: There's not going to be any cloud hanging over McBride

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Speaker 5: for that. That's these players week to week. When they

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Speaker 5: that something this offseason that might be on McBride's mind

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Speaker 5: It's not going to cloud anything. Getting ready for the

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Speaker 5: It's been a really great year of growth for McBride.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say that, and I want to get

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Speaker 4: whatever he's got now is one of four. Sorry, is

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Speaker 4: But I I remember talking to him right before the season.

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Speaker 2: Do they still make recipes off Pinterest? Remember that they

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Speaker 4: So, Yeah, the older brother he went back to Colorado.

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Speaker 4: But uh, I think that before the season. You know,

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Speaker 4: need to we need to make that like Darren's word

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Speaker 5: For the new year, get me. Every day is a

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Speaker 4: And I'm a wordsmith, Danny, I'm a wordsmith express.

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Speaker 5: One's opinions in a way considered annoyingly pompous.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's not gonna pontificate about what stats he might want,

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Speaker 4: And for him to get that. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: he did miss that one game, so he's only he's

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Speaker 4: gonna do it all in a sixteen game season. Whatever

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, he has a chance at

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Speaker 2: he's twelve catches away. Come on, hello, he said three

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Speaker 2: dozen catch games this year. That was his third twelve

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Speaker 5: We talk about James Connor as a running back. He

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Speaker 2: All right, So Danny, you're down on the sideline right

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you're talking.

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Speaker 2: Not only is Darren gonna be a contrarian, but he

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Speaker 2: Did you notice that on the cardinal sideline.

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Speaker 5: Yes, McBride doesn't do that as a trash talker. He's

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Speaker 5: not going to go and he's not going to go

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Speaker 5: use his words. He hypes up his team and the

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Speaker 5: He leads by example. He has become that catalyst of

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Speaker 4: Why would I disagree with that? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, just because of the because you're Darren, Well,

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Speaker 5: That's cause you pontificate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't just pompous. It was annoyingly pompous. Was

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: It?

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, look at Danny learning new words?

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Speaker 2: Oh man? Uh so, speaking of catching the ball, Marvin

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Speaker 2: Harrison Junior. How much of a step forward? Was that

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Speaker 4: I think the Rams don't know how to cover him

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Speaker 2: And you know what the Rams were saying going into

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Speaker 2: That was the guy that Marvin Harrison Junior torched in

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think with all the talk that's been

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Speaker 5: It's a good sign that all season long, Murray has

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Speaker 5: was double teamed and the ball was slightly over his head.

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Speaker 5: But I like Harrison in those moments. It's not going

438
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 5: to work every time we've seen enough of them this

439
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 5: season though, to know that that's possible. And I think

440
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 5: it says a lot that the quarterback still has that

441
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 5: trust and a rookie receiver to want to go for

442
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 5: him on those moments.

443
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Speaker 4: It's funny looking at a couple still photos of that play, like,

444
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 4: if Marvin's like a step and a half backwards, that's

445
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 4: got a chance. I mean, he just happened to turn

446
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 4: a little too soon or jump a little too soon

447
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 4: or whatever it is, and the ball was just a

448
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 4: little bit over his head and the Rams guys were

449
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 4: behind him. But that had that had a real chance

450
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 4: if if to be uh Hail Murray type of play,

451
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 4: had Harrison been like another foot backwards.

452
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Speaker 2: I know you guys are running around after the game,

453
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 2: but if you went back through Kyler Murray's media session

454
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Speaker 2: at LA at the podium and when he was asked

455
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Speaker 2: about Marvin Harrison Junior and JG mentioning, you know, there's

456
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Speaker 2: room to improve in terms of being physical, you know,

457
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 2: in the NFL and physically attacking the ball, and Kyler's

458
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: quote was, I think the physicality of it coming from

459
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 2: college to the league, guys don't realize how physical you

460
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: can be. When you get to the league, he's going

461
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Speaker 2: to be big time. And it's it's not just the

462
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Speaker 2: physicality you get from the corners, especially Pressman, but it's

463
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Speaker 2: what you can get away with as a receiver. It's

464
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Speaker 2: what Drew Torrel was talking about a few weeks ago,

465
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: right that we dictate to them and maybe as you

466
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Speaker 2: think back to the entire of his rookie season, maybe

467
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Speaker 2: that's the area where he's had to improve the most.

468
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Speaker 2: Is that guess what, I'm ultra skilled. I have all

469
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Speaker 2: the measurables. I'm a polished route runner. Sometimes in the

470
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: NFL comes down to get off me right and you

471
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: just shoved the guy and you got to get that

472
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Speaker 2: separation before the ball arrives.

473
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Speaker 5: The expectations from fans and the league, I think the

474
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Speaker 5: general sense were, in hindsight a little unfair. Despite being

475
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Speaker 5: a fourth overall pick. Harrison has had a good year.

476
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Speaker 5: There have been moments, and that's fair for the fans

477
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Speaker 5: to have at times the season wanted more from Harrison, absolutely,

478
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Speaker 5: because you see these great games, like both times against

479
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Speaker 5: the Rams, and then you're wondering in the middle of

480
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 5: season why it was inconsistent and why you weren't getting

481
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Speaker 5: those games on a regular basis, And that's a fair

482
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 5: question to have when you're looking at the big picture.

483
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 5: Though Harrison had a very good rookie season, and the

484
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Speaker 5: fact that again his quarterback continue to trust him on

485
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 5: those big time plays and those in those huge moments

486
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Speaker 5: where they really matter, says a lot about what is

487
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 5: going on outside of what everybody can see on a

488
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 5: game day, and what's going on in the meeting rooms

489
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 5: and now on the practice field and the communication and

490
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 5: trust that they are building there. I would expect a

491
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 5: big jump from year one to year two, similar to

492
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Speaker 5: how we've seen a handful of other receivers around the league,

493
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Speaker 5: as they do start to get bigger and they start

494
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 5: to get more comfortable and how physical they can be

495
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 5: on their end and really fine tuning their route running

496
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 5: and having a better understanding with their quarterback and all

497
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Speaker 5: of those things. So I can understand of the frustration

498
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Speaker 5: when you see a game like Harrison has against the

499
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Speaker 5: Rams and you're thinking, where has that been for two

500
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Speaker 5: thirds of the season. You gotta be patient. It's uncomfortable,

501
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 5: but you have to be patient.

502
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Speaker 2: And what did JG say during the bye week, the

503
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Speaker 2: one area he would have liked to have seen Marvin

504
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Speaker 2: Harrison Junior get better by the end of the season.

505
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 2: Was outside the numbers. That was the direct quote from

506
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: the head coach on his weekly TV show. Well, that

507
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: was a prime example of that. Not only were they

508
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: owe for most of the season on the back shoulder

509
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: right to the second or third level, and that was

510
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: nice to see the twenty four yarder, but there were

511
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: other catches outside the numbers. Somebody put out a stat

512
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 2: some sort of analytic where he leads the NFL and

513
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: crossing routes, crossing routes, targets are catches. I found that

514
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: really hard to believe.

515
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Speaker 4: I thought that was weird. I haven't seen that that

516
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: would be weird to me. It's funny that you say that,

517
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: because I got a question in the mail bag this

518
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 4: week who was complaining about that they don't give Marvin

519
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 4: enough chances to get yards after catch, and I guess

520
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 4: I understand it, but like again, if they're trying to

521
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Speaker 4: get him better outside the numbers.

522
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Speaker 2: That actually was if you guys remember you go back

523
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Speaker 2: to August, that was my biggest question coming in the

524
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: regular season. How is Marvin Arrison Junior yards after catch?

525
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Speaker 2: You didn't see a lot of it. At Ohio State.

526
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: He was either just so wide open or he's already

527
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Speaker 2: in the end zone. He just so often he'd make

528
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: catches he was untouched. How would he be after the catch,

529
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Speaker 2: because we never got a sense that he didn't play

530
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: in the preseason except for those three plays where he's

531
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: basically a decoy and then nobody's hitting him, like Buddha

532
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: Baker joked at the end of camp, So we didn't

533
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: really know coming in how he would be at the That's.

534
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Speaker 4: The thing I think. I think taking into account what

535
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Speaker 4: he did or didn't do in college in terms of

536
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 4: who's covering him, you know, And it wasn't just who

537
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 4: was covering him. It's also that he had about a

538
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: billion other wide receiver teammates that were really awesome too

539
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 4: at Ohio State, so like it wasn't like they always

540
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: had the best guy on him necessarily. And this isn't

541
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Speaker 4: taking any anything away from what Marvin did in college,

542
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: but again, there was going to be a learning curve.

543
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Speaker 2: And if Marvin, because he didn't see pookin Aicua, Cardinals

544
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: did not see pookin Akua in week two.

545
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Speaker 4: He made up for that this week.

546
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Speaker 2: Yes, he did I mean, you look at Matthew Stafford

547
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: seventeen completions, ten of them to pook and Akua one

548
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty nine yards, passing one hundred and twenty

549
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: nine of that to the second year, former fifth round pick, who,

550
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 2: by the way, does not have blazing speed. What's so?

551
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: But he's an unbelievable receiver. And the reason I bring

552
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: it up is if Marvin Harrison Junior was watching, even

553
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson, you're watching Pokinakua. I mean, you're big guys

554
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: as receivers, and look at the way he gets it done.

555
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: You know, you don't need to be the fastest dude

556
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 2: on the field to be a really productive receiver in

557
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: the NFL. And so you know, I'm curious, by the way,

558
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: the one stat that's hard to process with the Rams,

559
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: and we're going to get into the division a little

560
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: bit later. Matthew Stafford as Rams starter in December is

561
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: now thirteen and one. So even though they could, even

562
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: though they played an ugly game and didn't get a

563
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: lot done on offense, just he stinking finds a way.

564
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you can conduct a study

565
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: in the offseason. Last year was momentum. Can you conduct

566
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: a study this year and the off season on finding

567
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: a way that should be the next level? Okay, you

568
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: know if you need to pontificate, you can do that too.

569
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. You know he can study it, you

570
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: can pontificate it. Whatever. Let's just kidding him.

571
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: Not going to take a step back and dumbed down

572
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 4: my fine vocabulary because you guys are going to make

573
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: me feel bad about it. It's not gonna happen.

574
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 5: I'm grateful to expand my vocabulary. I don't think anybody's

575
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 5: making you feel any type of way, Darren. You are

576
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 5: in charge of your own emotions.

577
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 4: Thank you, doctor Surrek.

578
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, as long as you're playing doctor here, Danny

579
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: James Connor is he going in the final, the season

580
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: finale or not?

581
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: That's my segue is all over the place, man, I

582
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 4: if it helps you. Tray Benson is now on injured reserve,

583
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: so he will definitely not play.

584
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 5: I don't think it would be likely for Connor to play,

585
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 5: and this is Tuesday, before we've had any practice or

586
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 5: seen any sort of injury report to have anything of

587
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 5: that nature. However, for Connor to not be able to

588
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 5: go tells you the pain he was in. He got

589
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 5: hurt in Carolina, hurt his knee, didn't go back in

590
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 5: that game, was limited practicing all last week with the sleeve,

591
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 5: was off to a hot start against the Rams and

592
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 5: got twisted up. And I will tell you on the

593
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 5: sideline from the moment Connor came out of the game

594
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 5: and started getting his knee looked at by the training staff.

595
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: His helmet did not come off, did not come off

596
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 5: in the rest of that first half, entire second half,

597
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: he did not play a single snap. He had his

598
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 5: helmet on the entire time. On the sideline.

599
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, that's interesting.

600
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so he he wants to play. You can tell

601
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 5: he wanted to go in there. And that's the type

602
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 5: of person and leader and player that he is. If

603
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 5: Connor is going to be able to play, and he's

604
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: gonna be able to tough through it, he's gonna play.

605
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 5: At some point. You also need to take into consideration

606
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 5: his health. Now, this staff is not one that's going

607
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 5: to sit players just for the fact that they are

608
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: out of the playoffs. They're still going to have their play.

609
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: If you're healthy and you're ready to go, they're gonna

610
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 5: go out there and try and win the game. You

611
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 5: just have to take into account how his knee is feeling,

612
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 5: and if that even is the same knee he hurt

613
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 5: here his right knee in Carolina.

614
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 4: I think I think A Gannon said he took a

615
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: shot on the same knee. What happened, So you know,

616
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Speaker 4: I'm I'm with Danny. I think he would definitely want

617
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: to play. I think one of the reasons he would

618
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: love to play is because if he does, it will

619
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Speaker 4: be the first season he will have played an entire

620
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: season without missing a game with injury. I think that

621
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: means something to him. Now. I don't think he's gonna

622
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: go out there if he knows he's only gonna be

623
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: able to play ten snaps again or whatever he played.

624
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 4: But I think he would like to play now. The

625
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 4: benefit that the Cardinals have is Michael Carter's looked really

626
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: good when he's had to play, and that's your that's

627
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: gonna be your number one back if James Connor can't go.

628
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: Michael Carter might lack the size of James Connor, he

629
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: does not lack the confidence sweet him for an hour

630
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: in the Big Red Rage, and you forget that as

631
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: a rookie with the Jets. He was the leading rusher. Hey,

632
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: you know, so he feels like he belongs in the NFL.

633
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: He feels like he belongs with the ball in his hands.

634
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: So and he was effective, you know, for most of

635
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: that game. Now, he's obviously a different style of runner

636
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: in all the above. But yeah, if they're going to

637
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: give Michael Carter twenty touches in this game, I have

638
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: no problem with that.

639
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 5: He brings the energy, He's got a little swag to him.

640
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 5: Even when he's been on practice squad this year, he

641
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: brings a little something with him.

642
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Darren name some of the some of the

643
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: nobody practice squad running backs the Cardinals have had to

644
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: call up to finish seasons over a years past. Right,

645
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: there's been a few. It wasn't one guy, William's something

646
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: William Powell.

647
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 4: But that was the end of the preseason. That was

648
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: at the end of the regular season. That was when

649
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: he had thirty seven carries in the last preseason. Gave

650
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: William Powell God rest in peace. No, he has not dead,

651
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: But you're just thirty seven carries in a preseason game.

652
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: You think you'd be dead. I will say that it

653
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: will be an interesting if Connor can't go, you're talking

654
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Speaker 4: about a running back room of Michael Carter, DJ Dallas,

655
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Speaker 4: Tony Jones, I would assume would.

656
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Speaker 2: Be probably from the practice squad. Yep.

657
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Speaker 4: Although are you going to bring up two running backs

658
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: from the practice squad in the last game? Because right

659
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: now Michael Carter remains on the practice squad, So do

660
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: you sign him to the regular roster? You know, it's

661
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: it's it's gonna it'll it'll be an interesting combination of

662
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: how that all comes about, how they figure it out.

663
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Speaker 2: Every week, I've been putting slips of paper into the

664
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: suggestion box outside Drew Petsen's office, you know, for more

665
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: tight end screens this week, more carries for John gains

666
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: Can we get a carry for John Gaines? How about that?

667
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 4: I will say on the Michael Carter thing. And I

668
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: can't remember if I mentioned this last week. I talked

669
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 4: to him briefly after the Carolina game when he had

670
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: to come in, and he was talking about how grateful

671
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: he was being on his team. Now we talk about

672
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: how much swag he has and how much he believes

673
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: in himself. Here's a guy who's been on the practic

674
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: squad all year, and he clearly could be grumpy that

675
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: he's been on the pract squad all year and not

676
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: elevated until the Carolina game. And yet after the game

677
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 4: he's like, I'm grateful to be on this team. I'm

678
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: grateful to be in this organization. I love it here.

679
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: I was a little bit surprised given everything of how

680
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Speaker 4: much he kind of gushed about being in the situation

681
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 4: despite being on the practice squad all year.

682
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Speaker 5: Props to this offense for losing a bull dozing running

683
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Speaker 5: back in Connor in the middle of the game, already

684
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Speaker 5: without rookie Tray Benson, who was hurt with an ankle

685
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 5: and is now on ir similar ononder to Connor. So

686
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Speaker 5: you bring in Michael Carter, who's different. He's smaller, he's

687
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 5: a lot more slippery. He's gonna kind of hop over

688
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 5: the blocks going in front of him to find his

689
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 5: way through the gaps. He's not going to try and

690
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 5: run through you, although he's not afraid. He's just gonna

691
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 5: make you miss a tackle. So for this Cardinals offense

692
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 5: to be able to adjust mid game and still be

693
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 5: effective in the run game is an impressive feat, especially

694
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Speaker 5: without your two bookend tackles.

695
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Speaker 2: Yes, and you know the fact that you know, he

696
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: gets it done in sort of a different way, and

697
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: the fact that Cardinals still had almost four hundred total yards.

698
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: So that was yeah, that was intriguing. All right. I'mbracing

699
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: myself mentally. I mean, nothing says the end of twenty

700
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: twenty four like yours.

701
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 5: Truly, what can't we bring over your Cardinals mantra for

702
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four for you for wise Guy, a twenty

703
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 5: twenty four dip for a twenty twenty five rip and wise.

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Speaker 2: Guy, Yeah, thank you, except you got to have like

705
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Speaker 2: four rs, you know, rip. Okay, you gotta you gotta,

706
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: you gotta letter.

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Speaker 5: I'm still working on it, Okay.

708
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: You know Danny had another the best week and picks

709
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Speaker 4: again this week. Yeah.

710
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: No, it's amazing when I care about something.

711
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: That you and I were both twelve and three.

712
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: Paul, no hashtag fishy, fishy. Something's going on here, Danny.

713
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: I mean this the turnaround, something.

714
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 5: We're going on. Don't you think I would be a

715
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 5: little closer than still five games back from you?

716
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: The question is, and you're five games back of Paul,

717
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: Paul's five games back of me, So that makes you

718
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: ten games back.

719
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 5: So maybe Darren, we'll just forget to submit his picks

720
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 5: this week, but as we go.

721
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: If we go into the final week, it'll be interesting

722
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: to see if you take any wild swings there, Danny,

723
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: to catch up to at least Paul.

724
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: Okay, you realize that the difference here is beyond nominal.

725
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: It's like one point two percent difference in two hundred

726
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: and seventy two game schedule. You realize that, you know,

727
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: as you're flexing that over Darren, you know a one

728
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: board percent scoreboard difference, and you know, anyway, all right,

729
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: here we go. I'll just take my beat down like

730
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 2: like an adult. Here Wise Guy Trivia and three two one.

731
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy the World's Bestest Growing

732
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

733
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess.

734
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 5: Daddy's all right, I love this time of day.

735
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: Here we go.

736
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Speaker 4: Side from Poul.

737
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: My new year's resolution is to uh ingest more arcane

738
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: information in twenty twenty five. If Darren's going to start

739
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: the use of big words around here, I'm gonna go

740
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: with that.

741
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: Start that I feel like I'm off here, I'm gonna

742
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: take number three, Danny.

743
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: It's week eighteen. Darren's already thinking about Cancun. I'm locked

744
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: in bring it.

745
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 5: That's a fun question.

746
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: I'm all about fun.

747
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 5: Former Cardinals and forty nine Ers receiver and Quambolden raked

748
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 5: second all time on the Cardinals receptions list with five

749
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty six catches. Name the three other players

750
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 5: in franchise history who have caught more than five hundred passes?

751
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald, the Boy, Roy Green. And this is going

752
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: to be a guest, but I'm gonna go.

753
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 5: Pat Tilly incorrect. Paul, you have the chance to steal.

754
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 5: Name the three other players in franchise history who have

755
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 5: caught more than five hundred.

756
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: Passes Fits, Roy Green, Frank Sanders.

757
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: This was a tough one.

758
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 4: Larry Centers, son of a biscuit.

759
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fifty to fifty.

760
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm like Larry Centers or Frank Sanders.

761
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 5: So Fits had one thy four hundred and thirty two Centers,

762
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 5: five hundred and thirty five Green, five hundred and twenty two.

763
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: Larry Centers slipped my mind completely, like he slipped out

764
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 4: of something.

765
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 5: Good question. I'm one hundred pass Here we go. You

766
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: get to pick your question, Paul.

767
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: The pus nugget.

768
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: Number one.

769
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: Here we go. In the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, Kyler

770
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 5: Murray was selected first overall by the Cardinals and Nick

771
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: Bosa went to the forty nine ers with the second pick.

772
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 5: Named the third overall pick from that draft and the

773
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 5: team who made the selection two nineteen.

774
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: I believe in Kyler Bosa. Mmmm, twenty nineteen. I want

775
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: to say Trey Lance, but it wasn't because that was

776
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: one two. Three quarterbacks. Oh it was Jacksonville with an

777
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: edge rusher m Trayvon Walker. No, that was number one.

778
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: Two years later.

779
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I'm going to go with the Jets

780
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 4: and Quinn.

781
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 5: Williams Darren for the steal.

782
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 4: There you go, okay, because Paul, you should have known

783
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: that those are the three names we kept talking about

784
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 4: with what the Cardinals were going to do. I mean,

785
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 4: nobody thought they weren't going to take Kyler, but those

786
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: were the other names that we were talking about.

787
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: If you if you care to remember the entirety of

788
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: the three months leading to the draft, who was saying tiktalk?

789
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: That's true, and I was focused solely on Kyler Murray. Anyway,

790
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: here we.

791
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 5: Go, Darren, question two or four?

792
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: I will take question two. Did I say Pat Tillman

793
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: or Pat Tilly? I thought I said Pat Tilly. But

794
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: that's okay.

795
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 5: You said Tilly? Okay, just check on okay? Are you ready?

796
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: Yes? I am. As a matter of fact, I am.

797
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: In a twenty twenty one game against the forty nine Ers,

798
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 5: Chandler Jones became the Cardinals franchise leader in sacks. He

799
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: was fined more than ten thousand dollars after revealing a

800
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 5: T shirt featuring a photo of the previous record holder

801
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 5: name the player who previously held the record.

802
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: Can you repeat the question one more time?

803
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 5: Yes. In a twenty twenty one game against the forty

804
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 5: nine Ers, Chandler Jones became the Cardinals franchise leader in sacks.

805
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 5: He was fined more than ten thousand dollars after revealing

806
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 5: a T shirt featuring a photo of the previous record

807
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 5: holder name the player who previously held the record.

808
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: Was it Freddy Joe Nunn?

809
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 5: It sure was. I can see her face when I

810
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 5: mentioned in the question the first time around that he

811
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 5: was fined more than ten thousand dollars, and I knew

812
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 5: you were thinking, what on earth? He had done to

813
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: be fine.

814
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember the T shirt thing. I don't remember

815
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: the fine part of it. And I was like, yeah,

816
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 4: that's why I had you reread it because I got

817
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: whiplash once you went to the T shirt. I'm like,

818
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: my head wasn't in a good place.

819
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 5: Okay, here we go, Paul for frenzies.

820
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 2: Oh was that it? Okay?

821
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 5: Two one up on you? Unless maybe this is the

822
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 5: week you can convince Darin for an all or nothing

823
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 5: time time will time. Here we go. This four time

824
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl offensive lineman played for every NFC see West

825
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 5: team except the Rams. His career spanned eleven seasons from

826
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: twenty ten to twenty twenty. Named him offensive lineman who

827
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 5: played for every NFC West team except the Rams.

828
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: This is a lamp for you.

829
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Four time prosh Yeah and uh played at

830
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: Idaho State or Idaho.

831
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 5: You remember that.

832
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: I remember the guy aspects I ran. I remember I

833
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: ran into him at the Phoenician and uh.

834
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, it's not spelled with an L.

835
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: Everybody wanted you, potty.

836
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 2: It took me a moment.

837
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 5: Mike, you potty, We'll give it to you. You know,

838
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 5: I'm way I feel like, the older I get, the

839
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 5: harder it is for me to remember people's names. Oh

840
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 5: my gosh, shall we do a tiebreaker?

841
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

842
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 5: Go for the final game? Is this all? Is this

843
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 5: all or nothing?

844
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: There?

845
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 5: Okay, here we go. Get your pens ready, wide receiver

846
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 5: and Kwan Bolden played seven seasons with the Cardinals and

847
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 5: three with the forty nine Ers. Remarkably, he averaged the

848
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 5: exact same yards per catch for both franchises. What was

849
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 5: that number? Just so you know, Darren has given me

850
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: a decimal point, so include that in your answer.

851
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: Fourteen point eight.

852
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 5: It was twelve point eight Darren. That's your fifteenth win

853
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 5: of the season. So regular season SATs finish Darren fifteen,

854
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 5: Paul two.

855
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 4: That's that's the what we do. That's the end. That's it, right.

856
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 5: Are we going to find a way to do these

857
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 5: in the off season?

858
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: Probably? Well, we'll find something else interesting in the off season.

859
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 5: And will we have any ideas.

860
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: Let's come back to wise guy next season when Cardinals

861
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 4: have to go play a third play schedule instead of

862
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: a fourth's going.

863
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 5: To spend his off season binge watching TV. So he

864
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 5: from all all the TV shows that are set in

865
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 5: our opponent's cities. That's how he's going to spend his

866
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 5: off seasons. We can be ready for the cultural question.

867
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna buy Hunter on DVD, so paulk.

868
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: Watch the bitch watching. It will have to happen on

869
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: TV Land is what will have to happen on.

870
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Speaker 4: That first Wise guy? Wasn't it or one of the

871
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 4: first Wise guys? Yeah, there was a Hunter question Fred

872
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: Dryer anyway.

873
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So speaking of the schedule twenty twenty five, the

874
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: opponents are out yes at home Cardinals in addition to

875
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: the division have Atlanta, Carolina, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Green Bay, and

876
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: then away at Houston, Indie, Tampa, New Orleans, Dallas, Cincinnati.

877
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: So aid at home nine on the road, and obviously

878
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: there's only you know, two kinds of NFL games on

879
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: the road. There's either roof or no roof. So when

880
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: you apply that filter to it, Houston roof, Indie roof,

881
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 2: New Orleans roof, Dallas roof, and then Tampa and Cincinnati

882
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: no roof.

883
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 5: We have lucked out the last two years with whether

884
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 5: at some places that could be pretty extreme. So all

885
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 5: we got to do is cross our fingers for not

886
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 5: going to Tampa Bay in September.

887
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 4: I know that you just partied it up in New

888
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 4: Orleans and probably lost a couple of days there up, Danny,

889
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: but I want to warn you, since you have not

890
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: been there for a football game, that that not might.

891
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 4: It is absolutely hands down the coldest press box in

892
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: the NFL. Come prepared.

893
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 5: Interesting. That is good to know.

894
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 4: So if we go there in September and it's miserably

895
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 4: humid outside, you're still going to want to make sure

896
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: you have a heavy coat.

897
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: It's good. I mean, Darren, Darren works ahead. That could

898
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 2: be eleven months notice right there for the Orleans press box.

899
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: So that's that's news. You can also make sure you.

900
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: Do your Louisiana taxes because they'll come find you if

901
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 4: you don't.

902
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: Spoken like a man who's been there.

903
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, and oh will let us know there's no state

904
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 4: taxes in four of our nine road games next year,

905
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 4: which I know people are probably one. Why are we

906
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 4: even bringing this up? Well, it's because of that really

907
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: cool rule that says all these states can tax professional

908
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: athletes as long as we're on the plane with them,

909
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 4: we are treated as professional athletes. So we also have

910
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 4: to pay these extra state taxes.

911
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: They come after the ham and Eggers. I mean, come

912
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: on now, right, So, yes, personal gripes aside and airing

913
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 2: of grievances. You know, it is the season for Festivus nice.

914
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: It is interesting that the Cardinals, what there were three variables,

915
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: so now instead of playing Chicago, they play Green Bay

916
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: because the Niners finish in last place, so they get

917
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: the last place schedule correct.

918
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: So the way it works is almost all the division

919
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 4: teams play the same teams except for three games, and

920
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: that is determined by where you finish in the schedule.

921
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: So the Cardinals before the forty nine Ers game have

922
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: already clinched third place. I've already had people mad at

923
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 4: me that mention. I made it a mention in regard

924
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: to knowing what the schedule is. They got mad that

925
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: I would be promoting that they finished in third. I'm like, no,

926
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 4: that's not it. But anyways, it's.

927
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: Just a fact.

928
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

929
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: It also means we can they secured. It also means

930
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 2: between now and the beginning next season, we can refer

931
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: to him as the last place forty nine that's true ahead.

932
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: But anyways, so the way it worked out was the

933
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 4: third place team in the NFC West, now we know

934
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: is the Cardinals. They get a home game against the

935
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: Packers because the NFC North was so incredibly strong, and

936
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: road games at Cincinnati and at Dallas. Danding with a

937
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: thumbs up or actually her family, and then the fourth

938
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 4: place team instead of getting the Packers at home, get

939
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: the Bears at home, and the fourth place team instead

940
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: of getting the road games at Cincinnati and Joe Burrow

941
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 4: and Dallas, which I'm assuming is going to be healthy again,

942
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 4: they get the New York Giants on the road and

943
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: they get the Cleveland Browns on the road. So a

944
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 4: significant difference there.

945
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, so yeah, Cale Williams and head coach Pete Carroll,

946
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: I guess we'll be going to San Francisco.

947
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: That's not gonna happen, is it?

948
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: Why not? Of course, again, anything can have with the Bears.

949
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 4: So what happens if Pete Carroll takes over the Bears?

950
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 4: Are you just gonna be all over Double Rainbow Chicago? Wise,

951
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 4: we don't even play them.

952
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: I know that's disappointing. I know that's you know, that's

953
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: so that's tough. You're right?

954
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 5: Should we do Cardinals underground? From my parents' house in Dallas.

955
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: I like it.

956
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 5: We don't have a basement, so we can't go underground.

957
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 4: Just yeah, just Ryan, let us know, no one would love.

958
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 5: That more than my dad, our number one fan.

959
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: By the way, what do you think which team is

960
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: going to be the team to beat in the division

961
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: next year? Yes, we're we're pre emptying the athletic process

962
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: by a good eight months.

963
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 5: We love a good poll.

964
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: But you know, without a single offseason move being made,

965
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: who do you figure is going to be the team

966
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: to beat in the NFC West next year?

967
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: Assuming they're healthy? Don't? Don't we go back to the

968
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 4: forty nine ers until somebody knocks them out because they're

969
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 4: not healthy.

970
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: I just having just called this this Rams game and

971
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: looking in depth at their roster and seeing how many

972
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: first and second and thirty year players the Rams have.

973
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you.

974
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: They're one of four teams that are younger than the

975
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals, and just considering and the way they've been

976
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: able to draft, the way they've been able to pull

977
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: Kien Williams out around five and Pooka Naku out around five,

978
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: and they've hit on so many of their draft picks.

979
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 4: Here's my only issue with the Rams. Okay, usually not always,

980
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: but usually a quarterback falls off a cliff at some point.

981
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford is going to fall off a cliff in

982
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 4: my opinion, when is that he's getting in that ballpark.

983
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: There were some inexplicably poor throws in Week seventeen against

984
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: the Cardinals where he just flat misdudes open receivers.

985
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 4: I'm not even saying based on what I just saw.

986
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, given his age, you just never know I.

987
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 5: Would go forty nine ers.

988
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: Well how about brock perty though, now he won't go

989
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: in Week eighteen, but in that Monday night game he

990
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 2: threw another two critical picks on the stretch.

991
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: He also threw for three hundred and seventy seven yards

992
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 4: in a Randers have got.

993
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 5: An interesting situation this offseason on what they're going to

994
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 5: do in terms of paying party.

995
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 4: I agree with that. I guess I go back in

996
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 4: that game. Yeah, he had two bad turnovers, but that's

997
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: like getting I'm sorry on the same thing. Forty nine

998
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 4: ers rolled up all those yards in points. Where was

999
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers defense love against the Lions? Nowhere? Nowhere?

1000
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: But again, I'm going back to my Matthew Stafford is

1001
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: thirteen and one in December as rams starting quarterback. He

1002
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: had zero touchdown passes, but he also had zero interceptions.

1003
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: He threw for under two hundred, but he figured.

1004
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: This hasn't done. Jack squat for three weeks and won

1005
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: away wins.

1006
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: But they went from a forty four burger against the

1007
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: Bills to winning twelve six, nineteen to nine, and thirteen

1008
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: to nine. And by the way, I went back because

1009
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: apparently Griela was just mailing in this week, and so

1010
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: I looked myself since the bye, the one win the

1011
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: Cardinals have secured was the one game they won, the

1012
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: turnover battle New England. They were plus one otherwise. Week

1013
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: twelve at Seattle, it was a push, but the one

1014
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: turnover was the sixty nine yard pick six that Kyler

1015
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: threw to Kobe Bryant. Week thirteen, Kyler had two picks

1016
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: at Minnesota. And by the way, if you give me

1017
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: one moment, just one singular moment of this season, it

1018
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: would probably have to be late third quarter. Cardinals lead

1019
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: at Minnesota nineteen to six, and they're not able to

1020
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: bring that one home. Then week fourteen against Seattle, they

1021
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: were minus two. Kyler had two picks the week fifteen

1022
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: against New England plus one. They win the game. Week

1023
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: sixteen at Carolina they were minus two, and then this

1024
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: last week at the Rams minus two. And that's not

1025
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: all on the offense. Takeaways have been hard to come

1026
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: by for the Cardinals defense. So if you know, there's

1027
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: I surmise there's going to be a lot of conjecture

1028
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: and analysis and speculation in the off season. You know

1029
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: what happened after the bye from six and four to

1030
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: one in five, two and five, one and six, whatever

1031
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: ends up being. And to me, you can start right there,

1032
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 2: the all important turnover battle.

1033
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: To come out of the buy and lose your first game,

1034
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: that happens, you want to say mentally it was taking

1035
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: you a bit of time to get back into the

1036
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 5: swing of things. Fine, although we heard from this coaching

1037
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 5: staff and the players alike, the process was the saying

1038
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: during the bye week. What continued to happen after that, though,

1039
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: that was so different. The Cardinals entering the buyro on

1040
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 5: a four game win streak. Even leading up to that

1041
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 5: win streak earlier in the season, the games that they

1042
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 5: were losing more times than not, they were in it.

1043
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 5: It was a team that you could tell was starting

1044
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 5: to figure things out early in the season. Then as

1045
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 5: they got to that mental portion really started getting rolling.

1046
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 5: So what was the falloff after the bye week? That's

1047
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 5: absolutely going to be an area of emphasis for what

1048
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 5: everybody's going to try and figure out to make sure

1049
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 5: that doesn't happen again moving forward. When you're talking about

1050
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 5: takeaways against the forty nine ers, you have to wonder

1051
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 5: if you're going to have some more opportunities given who's

1052
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 5: going to be at quarterback for San Francisco, because it's

1053
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 5: not going to be Brock Perdy who hurt his elbow

1054
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 5: against the Lions. Is it going to be Josh Dobbs,

1055
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 5: former Cardinals quarterback who was filling in last year when

1056
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 5: Kyler Murray was still on IR with that ACL injury.

1057
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 5: Wouldn't that be.

1058
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: Something I got to go back and found find the SoundBite.

1059
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: It was one of his last press conferences. In the

1060
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: last question I for better or Worse? I ended the

1061
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 2: press conference when I'm not you when I asked Josh Dobbs,

1062
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: Josh hard hitting question over here, Polly pencil neck, you

1063
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: probably can't see me on behind Darren. Do you believe

1064
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: in aliens? Was my question, do you believe in UFOs,

1065
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: you know as the pastornat as a guy works with

1066
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: NASA in the off season, And he gave a brilliant

1067
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: two minute answer, most of which I couldn't comprehend. In

1068
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: the very end, he said, absolutely not. He does not

1069
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: believe in UFOs and or aliens.

1070
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 5: Wonder if what do he thinks of all the drones

1071
00:50:59,040 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 5: going on?

1072
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 4: I want to keep wondering how disappointing that was to

1073
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 4: Paul who it really was. It was a lot about

1074
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 4: that celestial possibility.

1075
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: I just I get to go back and find that answer,

1076
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna try. It'll take me a while to

1077
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: study it. I'll probably have to get some outside helped

1078
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: understand the you know, finer points of his answer, But

1079
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: maybe by game day I'll be able to prove Josh

1080
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: Dobbs wrong.

1081
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 5: You can pontificate your piece.

1082
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 4: What karaoke songs did you sing? Danny?

1083
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 5: Where did that come from?

1084
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: It became with the beginning of the podcast, when we

1085
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: were talking about how you went.

1086
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 5: Okay, why are you coming at me so hot right now?

1087
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: I've just you got very irritated with me, and I

1088
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: just I was curious.

1089
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 5: It was a group effort. There were two microphones, so

1090
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Speaker 5: we were all singing together. There was a whole I

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Speaker 5: mean the book was.

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Speaker 4: Huge, of all too solid. That's all you have to

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Speaker 4: give me.

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Speaker 5: We sang Skater Boy by Avril Levine. That was a

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00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 5: good one. We sang some bejis, and by we I

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00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 5: only mean Kyle and myself, because nobody else in our

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00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 5: group even knew who the bejis were, which is unfortunate.

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00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 5: We're saying, how much?

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Speaker 4: Now, what courage do you need to karaoke.

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Speaker 5: In a group where I'm friends with people? Not a ton?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not a good singer by any means.

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Speaker 2: I think he's setting you up to take us out

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Speaker 2: here this year, and no it's an addition of Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 2: Then what is no you're going to provide the musical

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Speaker 2: accompaniment on the way out.

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Speaker 5: Actually, my twenty twenty four New Year's resolution was to

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Speaker 5: never sing on this podcast. So I just I have

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Speaker 5: to finish strong, right, Sorry, Paul, And that's coincidentally also

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00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 5: my twenty twenty five Year's resolution.

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Speaker 2: That's good, you're.

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Speaker 4: Here strong with those resolutions? You got anything else in

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Speaker 4: the back pocket other than not?

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Speaker 5: I gotta be honest I'm not a big resolutioner. Goal

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Speaker 5: setting is great. I just I don't love the idea

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Speaker 5: of saying this my new Year's resolution, because everybody falls

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Speaker 5: off by beginning of February. I do want to read more.

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Speaker 5: I don't read during the season. I feel like that's

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Speaker 5: just so hard. In the off season, I enjoy reading,

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Speaker 5: and I do such a poor job at like keeping

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Speaker 5: up with it the way that I want to. So

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Speaker 5: I guess I would say reading, how about you, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Addition, by subtraction, we're getting rid of wise Guy trivia

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: I want Cheeto to get more treats. That's my new

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Speaker 5: Year's resolution for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually he.

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Speaker 4: Might have that on the treats or the wise Guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, i'm testing out I do my new weight loss

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Speaker 2: medication for dogs. So you're right, more treats so we

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Speaker 2: can continue to conduct our tests for dogs. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, Pete, I'm joking. Just we're joking, all right.

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Speaker 2: I don't eat any sort of you know, why do

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Speaker 2: we have to joke?

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Speaker 4: Why would Peda care? They don't want overweight dogs either.

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Speaker 2: I just said, we're testing out new weight loss medication

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Speaker 2: on my dog at home, you know, Peter, you don't

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Speaker 2: know these people. I mean, they'll come bang on your door, Daren.

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Speaker 4: What's my resume?

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Speaker 5: Dress fancy more often?

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Speaker 4: Oh, clearly, dress fancy more often. I think that's number one.

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Speaker 4: Become a close horse. Yes, I don't know. Uh, probably

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Speaker 4: keep my nose out of my kid's business more often,

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Speaker 4: and stop being let them be there.

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Speaker 5: They give you that resolution.

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Speaker 4: They didn't, They didn't, But I'm trying to be better

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Speaker 4: about that because let me tell you something. You always

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Speaker 4: you go through that part where you're the kid and

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00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: you're always wondering about your parents, and then you get

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Speaker 4: to the point where your kids become the adults and

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00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: you're like, you struggle with a little bit, and I

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00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 4: want to tell them, man, maybe that's not the best idea. Nope,

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00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: just let them sink or swim on their own.

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Speaker 2: Let them touch that hot burner. Everyone, wha, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: the way it works.

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Speaker 4: That's what Brian does. Ryby lets you touch the hot burner.

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Speaker 5: Sure does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And okay, well I guess you know. I'm waiting

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Speaker 2: just to make sure Danny's not going to take us

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Speaker 2: out with any sort of Avril Levine or Beg's no. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that'll do it. We'll talk to you next year on

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