Speaker 1: And what up?
Speaker 2: Welcome in. This is all ball. We're live in Las
Speaker 2: Vegas at the site of NBA Con NBA Con, which
Speaker 2: is interesting, right because I think and I know it's
Speaker 2: a conference, that's the idea behind it, right, but it
Speaker 2: feels like this is all Hey, comic Con is a
Speaker 2: really good idea, very successful. What if we did NBA con?
Speaker 2: And does the con? Should Comic Con have trademarked the
Speaker 2: con part to their name?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: It's like every scandal is now a gate that all
Speaker 2: comes from the Watergate scandal, even though that was actually
Speaker 2: the name of the Watergate hotel that was broken into
Speaker 2: This is comic Con anyway, this is NBA Con. So
Speaker 2: the idea behind in this is the first ever NBA
Speaker 2: Con is look NBA team executives, players, veterans, stars, and
Speaker 2: of course the rookies and second years, the guys try
Speaker 2: to make the league. Since the NBA moved the summer
Speaker 2: league here about a decade ago, it's become the hub.
Speaker 2: And here's the weird thing. If you're listening to this podcast,
Speaker 2: you probably already know this because you know me, I
Speaker 2: grew up in southern California. I was a hooper and
Speaker 2: the way aau high school, middle school hoops used to work.
Speaker 2: Was there was a big Easter tournament here was called
Speaker 2: the May West I believe it was May West Easter Invitational,
Speaker 2: huge tournament, and then gosh, I forget who. Then there
Speaker 2: was the Nike National Championship was here in July at
Speaker 2: the North and South Gym at UNLV. So UNLV has
Speaker 2: thomasin Mack which opened in I think the.
Speaker 4: Late eighties, mid to late eighties, and they used to play.
Speaker 2: The Convention Center of five thousand seed building right next
Speaker 2: to the Las Vegas Hill. They moved to thomasin mac
Speaker 2: but on campus where they practiced again. This is before
Speaker 2: they built the practice facility, and there's actually the practice
Speaker 2: facility which has multiple courts. They have two arenas over
Speaker 2: at Vegas. That's why it's a great site for the
Speaker 2: Summer League because the Summer League used to be at
Speaker 2: Long Beach State Before that, it was at Loila, Marymount,
Speaker 2: then with at Gerston Pavilion, then it was at the Pyramid.
Speaker 2: When I played for the Lakers, it was at the
Speaker 2: Pyramid at Long Beach, and then I think a little
Speaker 2: over a decade ago, it moved here. And it made
Speaker 2: sense because USA basketball would have their practices here, they
Speaker 2: play an exhibition game here. It's Vegas in the summer,
Speaker 2: and though it's ungodly hot, at least it gives you
Speaker 2: some other stuff to do. And most Hoopers had always
Speaker 2: been coming here because though the spring stuff was more
Speaker 2: West Coast based and the early summer stuff was West
Speaker 2: Coast spate. July was when all the national AAU tournaments
Speaker 2: were in Las Vegas. So I think it's it's been
Speaker 2: a great idea. And then this is like, hey, everybody's
Speaker 2: here anyway, let's kind of formalize it and make it
Speaker 2: a convention. And that's always been one of the things
Speaker 2: that NBA people have. I don't know if you want
Speaker 2: to idolized or really liked about the Final Four. Like
Speaker 2: what you don't know about the Final Four is the
Speaker 2: Final Four is actually the convention for college basketball coaches.
Speaker 2: So and you also have all Star games, and so
Speaker 2: the NBA just took bits of the Oh comic CON's
Speaker 2: a great idea. Final four is a great idea. The
Speaker 2: NFL doesn't really have this, although I'm sure they're going
Speaker 2: to copy it. The NFL draft is the one that
Speaker 2: everybody points to, but really it's I think it's the
Speaker 2: combine that they want to make into their own convention.
Speaker 2: So the NBA has decided, hey, let's make a convention.
Speaker 2: And the peak moment for the convention for NBA con
Speaker 2: is not necessarily me broadcasting.
Speaker 4: It's Victor webin Yama.
Speaker 2: We got to see him in a quasi NBA uniform
Speaker 2: last night on the court at Thomas and Mack. We
Speaker 2: also saw you know, Brandon Miller. We also we got
Speaker 2: a chance to see Scoot play. Scoot Henderson, who is
Speaker 2: the number three picks. We saw the number one and
Speaker 2: number two picks play against one another and then number
Speaker 2: three pick play. And of course he heard his shoulder
Speaker 2: which did look like a legit injury. Don't know if
Speaker 2: he plays today. Let's start with Victor webbin Yama. I
Speaker 2: think it's safe to say that we were underwhelmed, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and go like, hey, he's nineteen,
Speaker 2: he just got off the plane and he stinks, get
Speaker 2: rid of him, send him back, spurs got a bust.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's definitely going to be shows on
Speaker 2: television where people are going to raise their voices and
Speaker 2: say he's terrible, he's horrible.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 2: These are the same shows who I heard people say,
Speaker 2: legitimate people who followed the sport, who vote on All
Speaker 2: Star games and MVPs say he's going to be an
Speaker 2: All Star this year. And you're like, yo, do you know?
Speaker 2: Here's the thing? And I learned this the old fashioned way.
Speaker 2: I was a really really good player. I was an
Speaker 2: All American high school, was a really good player in college.
Speaker 2: The jump from high school to college is big. The
Speaker 2: come from college to pro is so gigantic you cannot
Speaker 2: possibly understand how difficult and different it is. And then
Speaker 2: you factor in he wasn't actually playing against pros last night, right.
Speaker 2: There are four hundred and fifty NBA players in the
Speaker 2: entire Solar system, four hundred and fifty. There are eight
Speaker 2: million people on Earth. There are four hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: NBA players. So the jump is gigantic, And it's really
Speaker 2: important to point out that, like your what is your
Speaker 2: default setting? Maybe this is the best way of expiating it.
Speaker 2: What is your default setting?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And your default setting is whatever you've done your whole life.
Speaker 2: You know, we all try and grow and improve, but
Speaker 2: at some point you go back to your default right
Speaker 2: as as a radio host you know, and a TV
Speaker 2: personality like, look, I know a lot about football, I
Speaker 2: played it growing up. My best to stay engaged with gms,
Speaker 2: in front office people, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, I
Speaker 2: have great fans that are baseball agents, baseball players, former
Speaker 2: baseball players. Of course, I played baseball up until high
Speaker 2: school as a kid. My son played baseball for a
Speaker 2: long time at a pretty high level for a little kid.
Speaker 2: I love baseball, but my default is the basketball, and
Speaker 2: having played basketball in America for I'm forty seven, so this.
Speaker 4: Is I don't know, forty years.
Speaker 2: My default is like, I know what American basketball feels like,
Speaker 2: play is like. And by the way, most conversations in
Speaker 2: my brain, it's like if you ever learn a different language,
Speaker 2: you think you still think in English, right, and native
Speaker 2: Spanish speakers will tell you like they speak Spanish, but
Speaker 2: they think they speak English, but they think in Spanish.
Speaker 2: For Victor Webbin Yama, I don't know if you want
Speaker 2: to say he's thinking in French or his default is
Speaker 2: French basketball or international basketball. It is a different sport.
Speaker 2: It is a feba. Basketball is so different it's really
Speaker 2: hard to articulate.
Speaker 4: Most of the.
Speaker 2: Rules are the same, but the way their officiator different.
Speaker 2: And I don't think the Spurs, I don't think they
Speaker 2: did wrong by him, but I'm not sure you did
Speaker 2: right by him in how they did it right.
Speaker 4: He said he hadn't practiced.
Speaker 2: With him, and he hadn't really practiced him anemo he
Speaker 2: worked out with him, he didn't.
Speaker 4: Really know what he was doing.
Speaker 2: And then it gets back to your default, right, And
Speaker 2: I love the fact that he was like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: didn't play that well, but at least you know we won.
Speaker 2: So his default is like, you know, you play to win.
Speaker 2: Look NBA Summer League, and my default was, you know,
Speaker 2: play to win as well. I learned the hard way
Speaker 2: with you play with the Lakers. This is in nineteen
Speaker 2: or two thousand and one NBA Summer League. Like I
Speaker 2: came in my first game. I came in, We're playing
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies. It's like a Wednesday night. Snoop Dogg's there,
Speaker 2: and you know, I got in like end of the
Speaker 2: second quarter, and I'd never in my life, I never
Speaker 2: sat for forty five minutes and then had like two
Speaker 2: minutes to kind of prove myself. And one I threw
Speaker 2: an alley up to Devin George. Remember the former Laker
Speaker 2: Devn George through an alleupe to Devon George, which I
Speaker 2: was sure was a dunk. I was like Steph Curry
Speaker 2: shooting at three, running back the other way, and it
Speaker 2: got deflected. Because in basketball, you don't get longer everybody
Speaker 2: else does. Right the windows when you're making passes or
Speaker 2: the time you have to take a shot, it just
Speaker 2: closes up so much more quickly. So I saw him,
Speaker 2: it's open. I delivered the ball on time, on target,
Speaker 2: and he got deflected. So I learned one that these
Speaker 2: dudes are incredible, even the guys that barely play at
Speaker 2: Devin George, Slava Medvedenko, they were all.
Speaker 4: That they were on the team.
Speaker 2: Like those dudes didn't play that much on the Lakers.
Speaker 2: They were incredible. Their level was so much higher than
Speaker 2: everybody else. They had so much a better pace and
Speaker 2: understanding of where to be and how to play and
Speaker 2: where to stand and how to defend and how to
Speaker 2: stay out.
Speaker 4: Of trouble and whatever.
Speaker 2: But the other part too, it is I remember going
Speaker 2: in at halftime and I had taken one shot, I
Speaker 2: had one assist, and I had and that's really it
Speaker 2: in like two minutes of work and I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I was doing the plus minus thing like Mike plus minuses.
Speaker 2: We've done well. And one of the assistant coaches grabbed
Speaker 2: me at the time. He's like, hey, dude, you don't
Speaker 2: have a lot of time. You got to get in
Speaker 2: there and do work. All right, everything is and what
Speaker 2: you learn is those are shark infested waters. Like we're
Speaker 2: watching to watch Victor webin Yama. Every dude on the
Speaker 2: Charlotte Hornets is like, I want to kill Victor Webinyama.
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 2: That's how that's the bat, that's you want mama mentality.
Speaker 2: That's basketball mentality. And it's not just the NBA team
Speaker 2: you're playing for, Like you're not just playing to make
Speaker 2: the Hornets.
Speaker 4: You're playing to get invited to play. And anybody's ain't
Speaker 4: anybody's training camp, you know, to get a two way.
Speaker 2: Or every high powered, high paying overseas roster. Everyone those
Speaker 2: those teams they're all here. They're all here and they
Speaker 2: paid lots of money, and so you got to go
Speaker 2: in and do work.
Speaker 4: And so as much as Victor webbin Yama's.
Speaker 2: Probably used to one being the guy in his French team,
Speaker 2: two running sets, the ball, moving around, playing friend style basketball.
Speaker 2: His default is to how they play disorganized basketball in France.
Speaker 2: It ain't how we played disorganized basketball here. Like here
Speaker 2: it is attack attack, attack, attack. There, it's movement, movie, move, move, movement,
Speaker 2: you know, ball screen attack, open, guy, get it. I
Speaker 2: kind of stay out of trouble a little bit. If
Speaker 2: you're open, shoot the ball. If not move it, let
Speaker 2: somebody else. And I ain't how we play here. And
Speaker 2: he was exhausted, and he was by his own accounts lost,
Speaker 2: and he look he looked that bad. Now those things
Speaker 2: can get adjusted, you know where you run a couple
Speaker 2: of things to where he Hey, where do you want
Speaker 2: to get the ball? I want to get the ball
Speaker 2: here on the wing on a pick and pop. I
Speaker 2: want to get the ball here on his you know,
Speaker 2: catching on a zoom or handing off on a zoom.
Speaker 2: The parts that were I think a little distressing to
Speaker 2: me are one I didn't see great hands and hands
Speaker 2: are like you know, the old definition of pornography. You
Speaker 2: know you can't find it, you know when you see it,
Speaker 2: that's hands, right, Like, watch Jokic play in the finals,
Speaker 2: and obviously he's got incredible hands. But like the ball
Speaker 2: goes up, there's three or four dudes that jump higher
Speaker 2: than him. They get to get a rebound, and somehow
Speaker 2: he just got got the ball and he's dribbling down
Speaker 2: the court, like, how do you do that?
Speaker 4: He's got great hands. Guys that have great hands have it.
Speaker 4: Guys that don't don't, and you can improve, but you don't.
Speaker 4: It's not really something you can fix or teach. It
Speaker 4: didn't seem to have great hands. That was a little troubling.
Speaker 2: And then look he's way thiny and he can tell
Speaker 2: you all this bowl about well, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want to gain bulk. I just want like you know,
Speaker 2: when he wants functional strength. That's great. Okay, he was
Speaker 2: getting ragged off. It's not that you get ragged all
Speaker 2: by stronger guys. That's gonna happen. He's nineteen. He hasn't
Speaker 2: played this sort of scout. It was that when he
Speaker 2: got the ball in the post a couple of times,
Speaker 2: he didn't look good. You know, like dude gets into
Speaker 2: excuse my language, but he gets guys get into their shit.
Speaker 2: They get the ball, they take a peek for the double,
Speaker 2: and they get into something. He just kind of like
Speaker 2: jumped up in mid air and tried to throw it in.
Speaker 2: He very much looked like a guy who did not
Speaker 2: have a defined, a refined post game. And as much
Speaker 2: as we can say, hey, Americans, a lot of them
Speaker 2: don't have to refined post games, that's fair, but they
Speaker 2: haven't been playing professional basketball in Europe, in France at
Speaker 2: the pro A level. And oh yeah, by the way,
Speaker 2: they're not seven foot three like he didn't just grow
Speaker 2: like last week, and so you're trying to figure out,
Speaker 2: like what is he?
Speaker 4: He's a point center. He's much more comfortable on the perimeter.
Speaker 2: So the handle, which everybody freaked out about because we
Speaker 2: haven't seen seven with three guys handled like that. That's great,
Speaker 2: but remember, if you can't score inside, if you're not
Speaker 2: strong enough to and you don't like physicality, everything you
Speaker 2: do is gonna have to be either getting by guys
Speaker 2: or getting over guys, and they can get into you.
Speaker 2: So obviously he's gonna have to add some speed, some
Speaker 2: strength that'll come in time. I think he's working with
Speaker 2: Melvin Sanders, who's actually a former oklame State cowboy, former
Speaker 2: San Antonio Spur, Like I'm all for it.
Speaker 4: I think that he's gonna be fine there. I'm a little.
Speaker 2: Hesitant because of his hesitance towards physicality, right, staying away
Speaker 2: from physicality.
Speaker 4: I don't love that. I really don't.
Speaker 2: And you know, the other part to it is the
Speaker 2: hands give me a little bit of the he be
Speaker 2: cheepingsnu factor in man, he's thin, and you just worry
Speaker 2: about him breaking in half.
Speaker 4: That's a very reasonable thought.
Speaker 2: You look at a dude who's seven feet tall, maybe
Speaker 2: on two hundred pounds, and you worry.
Speaker 4: I guess there's two parts to it.
Speaker 2: One, it's in the process of putting on strength, in
Speaker 2: the process of putting on weight, does he get hurt?
Speaker 2: And then two when he eventually puts on weight, and
Speaker 2: they all do on different levels. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: look at Yannis now as opposed to be honest, when
Speaker 2: he was drafted, and I don't know, you know, body
Speaker 2: type wise, what it looks like when he ends up being,
Speaker 2: you know, two thirty, he ends up being two fifty
Speaker 2: and you're like, two fifty that sounds like a load.
Speaker 2: He's seven foot three and a half, two hundred fifty
Speaker 2: pounds on him, does not like to look like two
Speaker 2: hundred fifty pounds on you and me. But I think
Speaker 2: the fascinating thing to keep an eye on is as
Speaker 2: he puts on strength, does his aggressiveness improve?
Speaker 4: How they how do they improve his hands?
Speaker 2: And maybe more than anything, can he change his mentality? Right,
Speaker 2: because a pass first mentality is great, not in this
Speaker 2: awful world of Summer League. And oh yeah, by the way,
Speaker 2: you're the number one pick who and it wasn't his fault,
Speaker 2: But dudes are like, if he's not a chem, if
Speaker 2: he's a chem Elijah one, it's a disappointment. You don't
Speaker 2: think that guys in the NBA are going to be
Speaker 2: coming at him for days and trying to dunk on him.
Speaker 2: I mean, he got dunked on last night by a
Speaker 2: boardline NBA player.
Speaker 4: It happens.
Speaker 2: You know, you're seven to three, you're going to get
Speaker 2: dunkd don everybody's gonna get dunkd on.
Speaker 4: Everybody gets baptized.
Speaker 2: But it was not a great celebration, celebratory night like
Speaker 2: we've seen in Vegas many times over in the Summer League.
Speaker 4: So it leaves us going, like, what did I just watch?
Speaker 4: You ever watched that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: What did I just watch?
Speaker 2: When you're told something's really good, and you go and
Speaker 2: it has pieces of what could be really good, and
Speaker 2: you want to understand it's a process, but the process
Speaker 2: may be a little bit earlier in the development stage.
Speaker 2: Then we thought heading in, that's a fair way to
Speaker 2: look at it. You know, maybe this is I've never
Speaker 2: watched a movie with rough cuts, you know, when you go,
Speaker 2: you sit down and you watch the rough cut of
Speaker 2: movie and you thought you thought you're gonna see like
Speaker 2: a whole movie, and you're like, ooh, I don't know there.
Speaker 2: Plot is kind of weird. There's some scenes I want
Speaker 2: to cut out. You guys got to go back to
Speaker 2: work and rethink this thing. So I walk away thinking
Speaker 2: and Scoop was impressive.
Speaker 4: If you've seen Scoot.
Speaker 2: Henderson, you know, like that dude's body is a real deal.
Speaker 2: The question is going to be about a shooting really
Speaker 2: nothing else. Incredibly competitive player should be a competitive defensive player, don't.
Speaker 2: I do think he kind of topped out in the
Speaker 2: G League, that there was improvement there, but maybe not
Speaker 2: the next step. And you're not playing super competitive games,
Speaker 2: so it's hard to tell what he looks like in
Speaker 2: playoff basketball different the regular seas.
Speaker 4: But if I'm putting money down.
Speaker 2: I've told people for the last couple of weeks, Scoot Henderson,
Speaker 2: it should be your pick for NBA Rookie of the
Speaker 2: Year because Portland's going to trade Damian Lillard. He's going
Speaker 2: to be giving the ball. He's playing for a former
Speaker 2: scoring point guard. And John Spills ays his coach, and
Speaker 2: he's he's got a body, he's got a game. The
Speaker 2: only question is going to be his development in his
Speaker 2: jump shot. But early on your NBA career that in
Speaker 2: the regular season, that's not as big of a holdback
Speaker 2: as it is once you get to meaningful games.
Speaker 4: That's for me. That's my that's my NBA Rookie of
Speaker 4: the Year.
Speaker 2: We'll see Chet Holmgren tonight saw Chet played twice in Sacramento.
Speaker 2: A little stronger. Here's the difference in Chet and Wen Mignon.
Speaker 2: Here's here's the biggest difference between the two. Chet is
Speaker 2: not strong enough, but Chet has some Here's the basketball person.
Speaker 2: He's got some shit to him, right, Like he sees
Speaker 2: the physicality and he goes to it. We mean, Yama
Speaker 2: was like, I want no part of that, you know,
Speaker 2: I want zero part of that. So and look, he's
Speaker 2: also been here his whole life. In terms of Chet,
Speaker 2: he's also spent a year in rehabbing and then training
Speaker 2: with Oklahoma City, so he's not blown away by the
Speaker 2: size the physicality of it, but that mentality is the
Speaker 2: difference to him. Look, Chet still Chet looks like he's
Speaker 2: got to be a four because he's still still not strong,
Speaker 2: he's not explosive.
Speaker 4: He's got to shoot. He shoots it well, but he's
Speaker 4: got to shoot a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Not going by guys, but again, like it changes when
Speaker 2: you get to real basketball because they put you in
Speaker 2: positions where you can succeed, whereas here you're kind of
Speaker 2: left to your devices. So the guys that are going
Speaker 2: to flourish the most are one guys that have played
Speaker 2: in the NBA.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the stats. Anybody's played in.
Speaker 2: The NBA should be playing very well, averaging fifteen to
Speaker 2: twenty points. It's like Keegan Murray, we're trying to get
Speaker 2: him on the pod, right, Like Keegan Murray played for
Speaker 2: Sacramento in the Summer League and he's putting up huge numbers.
Speaker 2: Jabari Smith, they asked him why he played like he
Speaker 2: didn't have a great rookie season, But this is a
Speaker 2: great place to where you can get twenty five shots
Speaker 2: and you've seen all the coverages, and at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, you've played in the NBA for a year,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be way better than anybody playing G League
Speaker 2: or definitely playing college international basketball.
Speaker 4: So we give Chet a.
Speaker 2: Little bit of the benefit of doubt because like Blake Griffin,
Speaker 2: like so many of the other guys, due to injury,
Speaker 2: sat out a year added strength. I still am a
Speaker 2: little cautious on Chet just because I don't know exactly
Speaker 2: what he is on offense.
Speaker 4: Is he a five? Is he a four? I do
Speaker 4: know the NBA is.
Speaker 2: Kind of evolving back to where you're playing two big guys.
Speaker 2: He absolutely can protect the rim, but is he physical
Speaker 2: enough to do that at a high level NBA game?
Speaker 2: Considering Oklahoma City's a pretty high level team. I think
Speaker 2: the issue with holding me back from Chet being a
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year is that he plays with Sae
Speaker 2: Gilgess Alexander who's going to average thirty a game. He's
Speaker 2: playing on a legit NBA playoff team, and so you're
Speaker 2: not had he played this year, they would have had
Speaker 2: time to develop Chet and play him twenty five thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Even if his play really didn't dictate that next year,
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City's kind of playing to win, like they don't
Speaker 2: need to They don't need a tank anymore. They got
Speaker 2: the dudes. So I think I think the smart pick
Speaker 2: is Scoot Henderson to be your Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 2: I'm not selling all my victory women, Yama Stock. I'm
Speaker 2: just telling you that at first glance, that's what it
Speaker 2: looks like. And there are a lot of people going, Oh,
Speaker 2: don't worry, He's got a couple of games here.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know how often you play basketball, buddy, if
Speaker 2: you are not in shape for whatever level of basketball
Speaker 2: you're playing, and you play a game with that sort
Speaker 2: of energy, that building was buzzing.
Speaker 4: There was great energy. It was on fire.
Speaker 2: I what a great night for the NBA right to have,
Speaker 2: you know, two teams of guys that have maybe five
Speaker 2: guys in.
Speaker 4: The court they're gonna play in the NBA.
Speaker 2: And the place was packed and it was a zoo
Speaker 2: that sort of energy, and you saw he was completely
Speaker 2: out of gas in the second half. So I want
Speaker 2: you to imagine you being Victor Webinya. I'm a seven
Speaker 2: ft three and a half waking up this morning in
Speaker 2: his hotel suite. You know how sore he is, you
Speaker 2: know how tired he is. Oh my god. And then
Speaker 2: you're like, hey man, you got another game tonight. That
Speaker 2: doesn't really mean anything to anybody except, you know, to
Speaker 2: the NBA and the Spurs and to kind of your brand.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to get much better.
Speaker 2: I think he'll he'll hit a couple of shots. My
Speaker 2: guess is just to guess that he'll play and if
Speaker 2: he's playing well, they'll write it out. If he hits
Speaker 2: a couple of shots, they'll take him out. And at
Speaker 2: some point, probably after game three, they'll shut him down.
Speaker 2: After he plays well, hits a couple of shots, they
Speaker 2: want to shut him down.
Speaker 4: And I don't think he plays a full season in
Speaker 4: the NBA.
Speaker 2: I know it's frustrating to all of us, but like
Speaker 2: this is what happens when you draft a seven with
Speaker 2: three dudees nineteen years old, right, you got to develop him,
Speaker 2: and there's just not the time even now, like you
Speaker 2: get done.
Speaker 4: He's going to go back to sentence.
Speaker 2: He's probably at some point got to go back to
Speaker 2: France and get all this stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, he's not just moving here and then he's
Speaker 4: gonna start training.
Speaker 2: There's just not enough time you got you start training
Speaker 2: camp in September.
Speaker 4: Right, it's mid July already, So I think they'll.
Speaker 2: Use the first year as a toe in the water,
Speaker 2: not jumping into the deep end. He'll play on some
Speaker 2: made for TV games, And remember he plays for the Spurs, who,
Speaker 2: even when they were NBA champions, they didn't care about
Speaker 2: the league saying, hey, we're putting you on TV on
Speaker 2: a Friday night against Lebron the heat they sat guys,
Speaker 2: then they'll sit him this year. So to me, if
Speaker 2: I'm betting, I'm going to the window the Rookie of
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 4: Most likely.
Speaker 2: You have to get the ball, you have to play minutes,
Speaker 2: you have to play on a team that's not gonna win. Right,
Speaker 2: it's Scoot Henderson. That's just the reality of it. Because
Speaker 2: we're all going to vote for a guy who puts
Speaker 2: up the best numbers, and the only guy who could
Speaker 2: maybe sneak into that conversation would be somebody like Chet
Speaker 2: because Chet can put up some ridiculous block shot numbers
Speaker 2: from all around stats. I just don't think he gets
Speaker 2: the volume of touches and the volume of stats because
Speaker 2: he's playing on a team.
Speaker 4: That's really, really good. Do they need him? Yeah? Will
Speaker 4: he play?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Will he get the ball and score twenty game? Hell?
Speaker 2: No, Shay Gilds Alexander is that team's offense, and then
Speaker 2: they all kind of play around.
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Speaker 2: A couple Orange County kids up here, right, Josh Childris
Speaker 2: Mayfair high School.
Speaker 4: I'm Tustin High School. Previous generation.
Speaker 2: Okay, but Mayfair is that little window you and Landry Fields? Right?
Speaker 4: A couple.
Speaker 2: I know Landry was low sal but still like same
Speaker 2: sort of same little window of success.
Speaker 3: Stanford guys, Stanford.
Speaker 4: Guys as well.
Speaker 2: Right, Stanford guys is like the Brian Fitzpatrick of the NFL.
Speaker 2: Like even if the dumbest guy at Stanford you walk
Speaker 2: into the room, be like, oh, I forgot, he's smarter
Speaker 2: than everybody else.
Speaker 4: Can you help me with my help me with my taxes?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: How did that happen when you're in the league?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, that's taxes, investment. I mean anything, you just
Speaker 3: you automatically qualified.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about last night. I know
Speaker 2: you just got in town. You didn't watch, you weren't
Speaker 2: at the Webbie game. But it's more the difference in
Speaker 2: the style of basketball, right, because you famously were playing
Speaker 2: the league, good play in the league, left and went
Speaker 2: to Greece, and I was trying to relay to people
Speaker 2: on how THINKBA is going to be fine?
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, but it's a it's a completely different It.
Speaker 2: Looks the same, smells the same, the court's the same length,
Speaker 2: three point line is almost the same now it's supposed
Speaker 2: to when you played different But it's a it's kind
Speaker 2: of a different sport. How would you compare and contrast
Speaker 2: the differences in playing at a high level in Europe
Speaker 2: and playing NBA style basketball.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean europe basketball is fantastic, but it's much
Speaker 3: more calculated. I think it's much less emphasis on and
Speaker 3: you know, fast break and getting out and scoring and
Speaker 3: much more on the structure game, which is what he's
Speaker 3: played in. And you know, coming into Summer League of
Speaker 3: all things, uh, you know, Summer League is running gun,
Speaker 3: It's it's fast paced, and you know, guys are out
Speaker 3: there just trying to try to make plays. You know,
Speaker 3: the game will so down for him a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's his first game in Summer League. I don't think
Speaker 3: the Spurs are worried. I don't think he's worried. But
Speaker 3: it is a it's a shift in the game for sure.
Speaker 4: When when you came out with Supper League, Lobby State.
Speaker 3: That came out Summer League are Summer League was in
Speaker 3: Salt Lake.
Speaker 4: City, so so Salt Lake City Review, which they which
Speaker 4: they have.
Speaker 2: Now, what's that feeling like of the first time you
Speaker 2: put on the logo?
Speaker 3: Oh man, the nerves, the butterflies. You know, you want
Speaker 3: to make sure you go out there and perform. Obviously
Speaker 3: you had a good training camp with the team. But
Speaker 3: it's fun and we went out there. We had a
Speaker 3: young team, you know, it was it was about four
Speaker 3: of us that were you know, fresh out of high
Speaker 3: school or early college. And uh, there's a fun time.
Speaker 3: Man's get out there and getting after it.
Speaker 2: The the differences when you first get to the league, right,
Speaker 2: and if you've ever been to the Farm, you ever
Speaker 2: been to Stanford, you know, like that's not real.
Speaker 4: Life, right.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that well left, Okay.
Speaker 2: So and for people who don't know, like anybody who's
Speaker 2: been in the Stanford you tell me about wrong. Yah,
Speaker 2: But like that's like the iconic if you could be
Speaker 2: anywhere like that people are. It's diverse, it's smart at
Speaker 2: the facility, like the everything's manicured perfectly. Now you've got
Speaker 2: coaches that even live on campus. Like you got your
Speaker 2: whole life in this one epicenter. It's like a utopia. Yep,
Speaker 2: you're on your own. You're in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: What was it like massive culture shock. I mean you
Speaker 3: go from Morris County to Stanford and then to Atlanta,
Speaker 3: a massive culture shot For me. I had great teammates
Speaker 3: that helped me get used to the culture. But there's
Speaker 3: a different world and especially leaving with Stanford, as you
Speaker 3: mentioned it, it's its own little bubble that is unlike
Speaker 3: anywhere else in the world. And so more from there
Speaker 3: to Atlanta, which was high in g was entertainment capital
Speaker 3: at the time. Uh, we had had a fun four
Speaker 3: years for sure.
Speaker 2: People I think whether they where they google you or
Speaker 2: hoop heads or Whember, like, oh, you left the league
Speaker 2: and went to went went to Greece kind of it
Speaker 2: was a very unique path.
Speaker 4: Why two reasons.
Speaker 3: One, I didn't have a contract on the table here
Speaker 3: in the league, and then secondly, I've always been open
Speaker 3: to try something new, and I went over there, I
Speaker 3: visited all went to visit Greece and wanted to take
Speaker 3: on a new challenge. But I think had I had
Speaker 3: a contract on the table, I mean maybe that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: So you get there and you're playing for one of
Speaker 2: the powerful teams in all of Europe.
Speaker 3: Which I didn't know at the time. I mean, you
Speaker 3: didn't know. You only know you can see what just
Speaker 3: in you know, YouTube and internet wasn't in the internet
Speaker 3: back then. Yeah, so you see a few things on
Speaker 3: TV and on the internet, but I didn't really understand
Speaker 3: the power of oribacos.
Speaker 4: You also did not think understood like even training camp.
Speaker 3: Oh no, okay, so to the mountains.
Speaker 2: Okay, So training camp in Atlanta was at the facility.
Speaker 3: At the facility once a day, once a day. You know,
Speaker 3: it was a couple of weeks. We had some some
Speaker 3: you know, some track time and you know, early or
Speaker 3: late summer just to you know, get in shape, your condition.
Speaker 3: But you know, for the most part, it was pretty relaxed,
Speaker 3: and I had a coach, Mike Woodson, who was old
Speaker 3: school school all day, but you know, still it was
Speaker 3: it was once a day and we went.
Speaker 4: We went hard to have a woody impression. By the way,
Speaker 4: everybody has a woppression.
Speaker 3: I can't curse on air, so I'll just leave it there.
Speaker 2: You could curse. This is podcast. Say whatever you want.
Speaker 2: That's the beauty to podcast. You can you can drop
Speaker 2: that pop Okay, fair enough. So you go to Olympiacos,
Speaker 2: like this is a big, big thing that Josh Childress
Speaker 2: is going to Olympiacos and leaving the NBA, and they're
Speaker 2: like training camp is in mountains, in the mountains.
Speaker 3: Took a three hour bus ride to the mountains. Yes,
Speaker 3: it was just us in the resort, so no hanging out,
Speaker 3: no no other source of activities. Yeah, we were just
Speaker 3: there for like three weeks.
Speaker 4: And again I did this in Russia.
Speaker 2: So I'm guessing like some sort of running in the
Speaker 2: morning and maybe lifting, and then you shoot for like
Speaker 2: an hour and then you go, then you go have lunch,
Speaker 2: take a nap, and then you go like two and
Speaker 2: a half in the evening.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, it's a tough schedule. Yes, it's a tough
Speaker 3: and we had our strength coach. You know, strength conditioning
Speaker 3: coach spent some time in the league, so he had
Speaker 3: a little bit of seasoning in what you know league
Speaker 3: training looked like. So you know we were a little
Speaker 3: bit advanced from that perspective, but it's still it's a grin.
Speaker 4: Was there a point where you're like, what am I
Speaker 4: doing well here?
Speaker 3: But you suddenly and I had some good events, got
Speaker 3: Lynn Greer was my first year, and uh love Land
Speaker 3: and had some good guys around.
Speaker 2: Me searching what, uh was pal the big Who's where's
Speaker 2: the big rival?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Five?
Speaker 4: Did I go to so so again?
Speaker 2: And and this is hard for people to comprehend because
Speaker 2: when you were at Stanford, that was one of the
Speaker 2: iconic places to play, right you had the bouncy floor. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know Tiger came to the games like it
Speaker 2: was crazy. Now you look at Stanford, it's kind of sad.
Speaker 2: It's like my old version don't draw really well. But uh,
Speaker 2: Olympiacos versus Powell, what is that atmosphere?
Speaker 3: Like it's unlike anything you will ever see in the US.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think imagine Cameron Indoor against U n
Speaker 3: C on steroids and on HGH and everything else you
Speaker 3: can imagine.
Speaker 4: Did they have dude burning flares up in the.
Speaker 3: My first game there you have the barriers behind the fence,
Speaker 3: and the guys shot a flare through the barrier and
Speaker 3: hit our towel bag. So our tower bag is on fire.
Speaker 3: We're trying to count country on the game and it's
Speaker 3: just just massive fire growing on the side of the bench.
Speaker 3: So it was like a rude awakening into the European basketball.
Speaker 4: How did you learn the language?
Speaker 3: I didn't enough to order food?
Speaker 4: Okay, so what was it? What was your what was
Speaker 4: your favorite thing?
Speaker 3: My favorite thing to these chicken skewers? Yeah, like you had.
Speaker 2: The fries with the veta that was really good, like
Speaker 2: the Greeks down fries pretty good.
Speaker 4: And then I know how you stow.
Speaker 2: You just say thank you exactly, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you, and.
Speaker 4: Then you kind of bounced around, right.
Speaker 2: You did the Australia thing, you did Japan, you came
Speaker 2: back to the States, you tried the G League. How
Speaker 2: would you characterize like the rest because what happens is
Speaker 2: you made the moved to grease, you tracked you then
Speaker 2: you had great play in in the EuroLeague stuff, and.
Speaker 4: Then people, you know, they go back to Paran.
Speaker 2: But how would you characterize those that last those last stops.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I came back to Phoenix after Greece
Speaker 3: for a couple of years and then got released. You know,
Speaker 3: it was a little bit nomadic in that in that
Speaker 3: last last little bit of my career. But I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: I went to some countries and imagine me, they would
Speaker 3: go to a play in and I had a great
Speaker 3: time and happy without it all ended.
Speaker 2: Coolest place you can, like you close your eyes, like
Speaker 2: this is the coolest place I ever played, not necessarily
Speaker 2: the whole game.
Speaker 4: You just played in a.
Speaker 3: I mean Sydney when we were playing, you know, we
Speaker 3: walk outside after the game, you see the opera house
Speaker 3: with great weather. It's you know, a great fan base.
Speaker 3: It was a great time.
Speaker 2: Plus people are they seem so chill there, like during
Speaker 2: a game, super physical, right, but afterwards it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's let's go off to Plint.
Speaker 3: And ironically I had Olympiakos fans in Sydney, so they
Speaker 3: would come to game channing the Olympiaco's chance. So it
Speaker 3: was it was a great.
Speaker 4: Time when you made the move back to the NBA.
Speaker 2: You know, so oftentimes I think guys that play in
Speaker 2: a high level of college and they go play kind
Speaker 2: of the mid level in Europe play struggle because it's
Speaker 2: just you don't feel it, you're not tied to the team,
Speaker 2: you don't have the emotions to it.
Speaker 4: You're you're leaving behind.
Speaker 2: You play at a great club in Europe where they're
Speaker 2: firing players, and it's nuts. You come back and play
Speaker 2: for the Suns. You're not playing nearly as much. What
Speaker 2: are those emotions like here?
Speaker 3: Who's tough? Who's tough?
Speaker 4: Time?
Speaker 3: My career I didn't play and uh, you know, dealing
Speaker 3: with that and not having you know, really a path
Speaker 3: forward challenging. And then after that, you know, depending on
Speaker 3: how you position yourself in your land, you're kind of
Speaker 3: bounce around because people questioned why you didn't work out
Speaker 3: there and got to be, you know, mindful of the
Speaker 3: right fit and so I wasn't able to find that
Speaker 3: right fit in the league. But you know, I went
Speaker 3: overseas and had a good time.
Speaker 5: What is it like to come to the conclusion, Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's different for every guy, I mean you for me,
Speaker 5: it was uh, you felt good about it.
Speaker 3: Fifteen years total, it's had a great, great career, great time.
Speaker 4: Give me what you were was there like a moment
Speaker 4: where you're like, that's ah No.
Speaker 3: I had a started a family and so at that time,
Speaker 3: you know, being overseas and not having your family with
Speaker 3: you was tough. So that was tough.
Speaker 4: So did you have a plan?
Speaker 3: I did. So I got injured in New Orleans left
Speaker 3: I had to get surgery and they went back and
Speaker 3: finished a standard. So that was five years before I
Speaker 3: was done. So I kind of started the planning process then.
Speaker 4: And what was what was the plan in your mind?
Speaker 3: This is, you know, be a business owner of so
Speaker 3: my own business, which what I do now. I have
Speaker 3: a little state investment firm, and you know, just continue
Speaker 3: to build on the foundation that I laid over the
Speaker 3: fifteen years, you know, and and build something that I
Speaker 3: can be proud of and pass down to my kids,
Speaker 3: you know in the future.
Speaker 4: And a commercial real estate or or resident So.
Speaker 3: We build an investment apartments, apartment buildings on the West coast,
Speaker 3: So we have a nice project here in Vegas. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And does it when you wake up in the morning,
Speaker 2: does it still bring you like joy and energy to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's more stressful. You know, you're dealing with,
Speaker 3: you know, just a wide range of other variables that
Speaker 3: you didn't ever imagine. And you know, I'm also dealing
Speaker 3: with other people's money, which is you know, stressful in itself.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's a it's been fun, it's
Speaker 3: been a journey. I'm looking forward to growing it, but
Speaker 3: it's a different kind of stress.
Speaker 4: What's the What's that's the hardest part about it? What's
Speaker 4: the most challenging element to it?
Speaker 3: I'll say it is you You experienced this in your
Speaker 3: career too. You're always in a position where people are
Speaker 3: chasing you, you know, and looking after you, and you
Speaker 3: get to roll the red carpet rolled out and you know,
Speaker 3: you're very rarely hear knows maybe toward the end of
Speaker 3: your career, you know, as things wind out, but you know,
Speaker 3: starting a company raising capital, like I heard hundreds of
Speaker 3: nose and it was challenging because historically I had never
Speaker 3: heard that, you know, And it's it's about that resilience.
Speaker 4: So that's it.
Speaker 2: That's a That's an awesome way to pivot and have
Speaker 2: this conversation because we're giving what kids more yeses than
Speaker 2: ever before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 2: One of my dear friends is a high ranking offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator in college football and he's like, look, I know
Speaker 2: that people thought college kids had it bad before they're
Speaker 2: getting paid, but it's going to be worse. And I
Speaker 2: asked them to kind of flush it out. And he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, look, if you're given a kid one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty two hundred grand to play a sport.
Speaker 4: College, they get out of college, they think.
Speaker 3: That's there at the borrow, that's their life.
Speaker 4: Like that ain't a real life, bro, That ain't real
Speaker 4: life at all.
Speaker 2: So having having been through it, obviously you had to
Speaker 2: be an incredible student and student athlete to go to Stanford,
Speaker 2: but then to come back to Stanford as well, Like
Speaker 2: that takes a different sort of stuff. And now as
Speaker 2: an adult with kids, what's the what's the best? Like,
Speaker 2: let's just take basketball. Now you have nil in college,
Speaker 2: but also there's an il in high school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dudes can go to overtime E league. They're expanding.
Speaker 4: You got G league? Ignite.
Speaker 2: If I put you in charge, I say, Josh, you've
Speaker 2: lived it, what do you do?
Speaker 3: How did can you?
Speaker 2: Can you go stake my school the league, Silver's the
Speaker 2: only one pushing that one. Do you do you go
Speaker 2: back to the old college system? Can you transfer them
Speaker 2: without penalty?
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't allow players to come straight out
Speaker 3: of high school to the league. I think there needs
Speaker 3: to be a year stop gap somewhere just to get
Speaker 3: a foundation how to be a pro college is that
Speaker 3: for some people? G League, Knight, Overtime Elitue, the NBL,
Speaker 3: which is a league I'm involved in, but there needs
Speaker 3: to be a Scott I stop. Yeah. Secondly, I think
Speaker 3: there needs to be more formation of education around finances
Speaker 3: for these kids. Just one thing they're getting paid, they're
Speaker 3: using their name in is like just to do that
Speaker 3: as fair as fine, But you know, if you're putting
Speaker 3: a hand you know two and are grand in the
Speaker 3: hands of a seventeen year old, they're going to do
Speaker 3: stupid stuff and there needs to be I think a
Speaker 3: more a better and more intentional foundation around that help
Speaker 3: them educate themselves and create you know, less just wild
Speaker 3: wild West sort of strategy for a lot of these teams.
Speaker 2: I think it's a great point. You mentioned you're involved
Speaker 2: with the NBL. They have their program is starting to
Speaker 2: get players from America. Yeah, what is unique about it
Speaker 2: as opposed to the ignite, as opposed to overtime A leaders.
Speaker 3: I say the NBL is probably one of the closest
Speaker 3: in terms of just how the game translates from there
Speaker 3: to the NBA that I've seen, and I've played there
Speaker 3: for three years, I know it. And now we've had success.
Speaker 3: We've had year over year we've had guys come over
Speaker 3: either you know, just guys that were in the league
Speaker 3: or LaMelo Balls and Argie Hampton's and you know the
Speaker 3: kids that got drafted for the past couple of years
Speaker 3: that have come in the league and had success, And
Speaker 3: that's just a testament to the league. They've grown it
Speaker 3: the right way. You know, you get a true season
Speaker 3: of strength conditioning, and you know, Australians and sports science
Speaker 3: is one of the top of the world, and the
Speaker 3: coaching over there is great and there's a lot of
Speaker 3: you know, connectivity to the to the NBA. So I
Speaker 3: think that the NBL needs to have more players come over,
Speaker 3: you know, because the league is fantastic and it is growing.
Speaker 2: It really is okay, So for you you're here, you
Speaker 2: got your real estate stuff.
Speaker 4: You're in town? What else are you doing in Vegas?
Speaker 3: Come to watch some games? I want to hang out.
Speaker 4: Who are you most excited to see?
Speaker 3: I want to see more of Brandon Miller. I mean
Speaker 3: everybody will to see who, but I think I'm intrigued
Speaker 3: to see what. You know, what Jordan saw in him?
Speaker 3: You know over Overscoo.
Speaker 2: So it's a it's a really interesting question because Scoot.
Speaker 2: I think Scoot's gonna be a real good year, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, guys, an unbelievable athlete. He can good bye
Speaker 2: is it's hard to keep out of the lane, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what what his shooting ends up looking like,
Speaker 2: it'll be better than it is now. That's probably the
Speaker 2: one limiting factor. And size and league's just get bigger
Speaker 2: and bigger, and he's obviously built like a grown man.
Speaker 2: But you know, sixty two and a half six three.
Speaker 2: Who knows my thoughts on Brandon Miller? And I'd love
Speaker 2: to hear it after you watch him, as I like
Speaker 2: the idea, I think what Jordan saw as when he's
Speaker 2: got Lamello ball and they're pot committed there right paying
Speaker 2: him nearly a quarter billion dollars. You know if I committed,
Speaker 2: So he'll be great because he's he was sixty percent
Speaker 2: shooter on just catch and shooting at Alabama now college three,
Speaker 2: but clearly has NBA ran yep, and has all of
Speaker 2: the things that would be you check the box in
Speaker 2: terms of a modern day NBA defensive player, length, athleticism, intelligence,
Speaker 2: has enough toughness, has some ship to him a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know the question, can he be a star? Well
Speaker 2: that's different now, right? Can you can he be a
Speaker 2: three level scorer in the league? That that one I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know about. And it'll be interesting because he's
Speaker 2: a guy who made a seismic jump in his draft
Speaker 2: stock during his year at Alabama.
Speaker 4: But it's hard because you know, when you're.
Speaker 2: Playing in college, you're not necessarily playing against pros, right rescue,
Speaker 2: he's playing against pros, right So it's it's it's gonna
Speaker 2: be an interesting yeah.
Speaker 3: But I mean when the cream rids at the top
Speaker 3: and you you know, see a kid like that, he
Speaker 3: has all the physical gifts, seems like, you know, on
Speaker 3: his game. So I haven't seen to play enough, but
Speaker 3: I've seen enough to see he's got it. It's just
Speaker 3: a matter of can he put it together and can
Speaker 3: they put it right support system around him to maximize
Speaker 3: his talent. LaMelo is great, and you gotta have some
Speaker 3: bests in the locker room and kind of help guide
Speaker 3: all those guys.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, we've seen some issues in locker rooms here
Speaker 3: recently because of that, So hopefully they do a good
Speaker 3: job and creating support around him.
Speaker 4: Uh. How much you like watching yokid you play?
Speaker 3: I love it? I love it, I mean and tell
Speaker 3: tale you know of playing in Europe, you have these
Speaker 3: guys that super talented, probably on your team, have no
Speaker 3: interesting coming to the NBA. Yeah, but just can hope
Speaker 3: and I just he's that for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they do the the awkward stretching stuff they do,
Speaker 2: you know, and it looks funky. It's not what we're
Speaker 2: used to, but it's really effective.
Speaker 4: It was it was I thought that would that be
Speaker 4: a guy that you love it you and.
Speaker 3: You know as approach to the game, and I want
Speaker 3: a ton of the playoffs with him. Just the fact
Speaker 3: that a guy at that statue can go into the
Speaker 3: game first quarter not even a tempt to shot, you know,
Speaker 3: on purpose, just to make sure his teammates are getting involved.
Speaker 3: And everybody's getting involved and then you know, last three quarters,
Speaker 3: just turn it up.
Speaker 4: I just attest him to his talent if you could.
Speaker 2: And again, I mean there's probably a million things you
Speaker 2: could say.
Speaker 4: But say there's a high school.
Speaker 2: Kid out there and he's fascinated with you, your path,
Speaker 2: your success personally professionally, what would be the advice you get?
Speaker 3: Reach out to me? How you know? Social media? Yeah,
Speaker 3: social media easy. But I'll tell you the other thing
Speaker 3: is educate yourself on the business of the league. I
Speaker 3: think that that's super important. You know, these guys you
Speaker 3: mentioned the mellow, these guys are going to be billionaires.
Speaker 3: And you get a couple of these guys that will
Speaker 3: get two or three contracts over the next you know,
Speaker 3: ten years. These are the game has changed a bit,
Speaker 3: and so just being mindful of that. Educating yourself on
Speaker 3: the finances and the business behind it is one of
Speaker 3: the biggest pieces of advice.
Speaker 4: What what what percentage?
Speaker 2: Again, this is just your perspective of players value that
Speaker 2: education piece. And I say it because I think we
Speaker 2: do a terrible job in the media of expressing any
Speaker 2: sort of interest in it. But it's like all the
Speaker 2: things you're saying are like, you should educate yourself, And
Speaker 2: I agree we should have some pretty professional program college
Speaker 2: basketball players on agents, taxes, investments, all this stuff that
Speaker 2: we should teach as opposed to like do I really
Speaker 2: need to go into you know, social sciences, and like
Speaker 2: that's not going to help me. Now, high level math
Speaker 2: is not going to help me. Tell me how I
Speaker 2: can manage my money and manage my life.
Speaker 4: But you know, you lived it.
Speaker 2: What percentage of NBA players do you think value that
Speaker 2: side of it, not just the business side of it,
Speaker 2: but the understanding and educating themselves on everything going on.
Speaker 3: I think years probably one to five, fifteen to twenty percent.
Speaker 3: When you get you know, year seven to twelve, you know,
Speaker 3: it probably takes up to sixty to seventy percent. So
Speaker 3: just a matter of age. I mean, you come in
Speaker 3: the league, you're invincible. You can do it wrong. All
Speaker 3: your boys are around you. You know, it's a different
Speaker 3: sort of mentality.
Speaker 6: Do you miss the baby fro? I can grow it back,
Speaker 6: I know, but you don't have you miss it? Too
Speaker 6: much work, too much work, too much work. Hey Josh Man,
Speaker 6: it's great catching up with you. I congratulations on all
Speaker 6: your success refercally Amphibets.
Speaker 3: I appreciate
Speaker 1: H