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Speaker 2: Welcome in. This is all ball. We're live in Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas at the site of NBA Con NBA Con, which

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Speaker 2: is interesting, right because I think and I know it's

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Speaker 2: a conference, that's the idea behind it, right, but it

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Speaker 2: feels like this is all Hey, comic Con is a

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Speaker 2: really good idea, very successful. What if we did NBA con?

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Speaker 2: And does the con? Should Comic Con have trademarked the

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Speaker 2: con part to their name?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: It's like every scandal is now a gate that all

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Speaker 2: comes from the Watergate scandal, even though that was actually

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Speaker 2: the name of the Watergate hotel that was broken into

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Speaker 2: This is comic Con anyway, this is NBA Con. So

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Speaker 2: the idea behind in this is the first ever NBA

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Speaker 2: Con is look NBA team executives, players, veterans, stars, and

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Speaker 2: of course the rookies and second years, the guys try

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Speaker 2: to make the league. Since the NBA moved the summer

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Speaker 2: league here about a decade ago, it's become the hub.

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Speaker 2: And here's the weird thing. If you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 2: you probably already know this because you know me, I

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Speaker 2: grew up in southern California. I was a hooper and

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Speaker 2: the way aau high school, middle school hoops used to work.

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Speaker 2: Was there was a big Easter tournament here was called

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Speaker 2: the May West I believe it was May West Easter Invitational,

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Speaker 2: huge tournament, and then gosh, I forget who. Then there

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Speaker 2: the North and South Gym at UNLV. So UNLV has

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Speaker 2: thomasin Mack which opened in I think the.

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Speaker 4: Late eighties, mid to late eighties, and they used to play.

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Speaker 2: The Convention Center of five thousand seed building right next

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Speaker 2: to the Las Vegas Hill. They moved to thomasin mac

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Speaker 2: but on campus where they practiced again. This is before

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Speaker 2: they built the practice facility, and there's actually the practice

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Speaker 2: facility which has multiple courts. They have two arenas over

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Speaker 2: at Vegas. That's why it's a great site for the

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Speaker 2: Summer League because the Summer League used to be at

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Speaker 2: Long Beach State Before that, it was at Loila, Marymount,

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Speaker 2: then with at Gerston Pavilion, then it was at the Pyramid.

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Speaker 2: When I played for the Lakers, it was at the

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Speaker 2: Pyramid at Long Beach, and then I think a little

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Speaker 2: over a decade ago, it moved here. And it made

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Speaker 2: and though it's ungodly hot, at least it gives you

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Speaker 2: some other stuff to do. And most Hoopers had always

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Speaker 2: were in Las Vegas. So I think it's it's been

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Speaker 2: a great idea. And then this is like, hey, everybody's

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Speaker 2: a convention. And that's always been one of the things

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Speaker 2: that NBA people have. I don't know if you want

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Speaker 2: to idolized or really liked about the Final Four. Like

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Speaker 2: what you don't know about the Final Four is the

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Speaker 2: Final Four is actually the convention for college basketball coaches.

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Speaker 2: So and you also have all Star games, and so

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Speaker 2: the NBA just took bits of the Oh comic CON's

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Speaker 2: a great idea. Final four is a great idea. The

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Speaker 2: NFL doesn't really have this, although I'm sure they're going

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Speaker 2: to copy it. The NFL draft is the one that

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Speaker 2: So the NBA has decided, hey, let's make a convention.

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Speaker 2: And the peak moment for the convention for NBA con

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Speaker 2: is not necessarily me broadcasting.

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Speaker 4: It's Victor webin Yama.

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Speaker 2: We got to see him in a quasi NBA uniform

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Speaker 2: last night on the court at Thomas and Mack. We

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Speaker 2: think it's safe to say that we were underwhelmed, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: rid of him, send him back, spurs got a bust.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's definitely going to be shows on

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Speaker 2: These are the same shows who I heard people say,

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Speaker 2: Star games and MVPs say he's going to be an

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing? And I learned this the old fashioned way.

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Speaker 2: I was a really really good player. I was an

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Speaker 2: The jump from high school to college is big. The

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Speaker 2: you factor in he wasn't actually playing against pros last night, right.

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Speaker 2: There are four hundred and fifty NBA players in the

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Speaker 2: important to point out that, like your what is your

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Speaker 2: default setting? Maybe this is the best way of expiating it.

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Speaker 2: What is your default setting?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And your default setting is whatever you've done your whole life.

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Speaker 2: You know, we all try and grow and improve, but

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Speaker 2: at some point you go back to your default right

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Speaker 2: as as a radio host you know, and a TV

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Speaker 2: played it growing up. My best to stay engaged with gms,

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Speaker 2: in front office people, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: have great fans that are baseball agents, baseball players, former

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Speaker 2: baseball players. Of course, I played baseball up until high

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Speaker 2: I love baseball, but my default is the basketball, and

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Speaker 2: having played basketball in America for I'm forty seven, so this.

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Speaker 4: Is I don't know, forty years.

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Speaker 2: My default is like, I know what American basketball feels like,

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Speaker 2: you think you still think in English, right, and native

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Speaker 2: For Victor Webbin Yama, I don't know if you want

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Speaker 2: to say he's thinking in French or his default is

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Speaker 2: And I don't think the Spurs, I don't think they

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Speaker 4: He said he hadn't practiced.

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Speaker 2: With him, and he hadn't really practiced him anemo he

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Speaker 2: And then it gets back to your default, right, And

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that he was like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: So his default is like, you know, you play to win.

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Speaker 2: Look NBA Summer League, and my default was, you know,

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Speaker 2: play to win as well. I learned the hard way

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Speaker 2: with you play with the Lakers. This is in nineteen

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Speaker 2: Devin George, Slava Medvedenko, they were all.

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Speaker 4: That they were on the team.

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Speaker 2: Like those dudes didn't play that much on the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: They were incredible. Their level was so much higher than

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Speaker 4: Of trouble and whatever.

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Speaker 2: But the other part too, it is I remember going

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 2: That's how that's the bat, that's you want mama mentality.

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Speaker 2: That's basketball mentality. And it's not just the NBA team

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Speaker 4: You're playing to get invited to play. And anybody's ain't

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Speaker 2: Or every high powered, high paying overseas roster. Everyone those

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Speaker 4: And so as much as Victor webbin Yama's.

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Speaker 2: Probably used to one being the guy in his French team,

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Speaker 2: It ain't how we played disorganized basketball here. Like here

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Speaker 2: it is attack attack, attack, attack. There, it's movement, movie, move, move, movement,

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Speaker 2: he was exhausted, and he was by his own accounts lost,

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Speaker 2: and he look he looked that bad. Now those things

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Speaker 4: Everybody gets baptized.

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Speaker 2: But it was not a great celebration, celebratory night like

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Speaker 4: If you've seen Scoot.

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Speaker 4: But if I'm putting money down.

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Speaker 2: I've told people for the last couple of weeks, Scoot Henderson,

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Speaker 2: the regular season, that's not as big of a holdback

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Speaker 4: That's for me. That's my that's my NBA Rookie of

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Speaker 2: We'll see Chet Holmgren tonight saw Chet played twice in Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's the biggest difference between the two. Chet is

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Speaker 2: He's got some shit to him, right, Like he sees

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Speaker 4: He's got to shoot. He shoots it well, but he's

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the stats. Anybody's played in.

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Speaker 2: Jabari Smith, they asked him why he played like he

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Speaker 2: and you've seen all the coverages, and at the end

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Speaker 4: So we give Chet a.

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Speaker 4: Is he a five? Is he a four? I do

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Speaker 2: Kind of evolving back to where you're playing two big guys.

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Speaker 2: Considering Oklahoma City's a pretty high level team. I think

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Speaker 2: Even if his play really didn't dictate that next year,

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Speaker 4: There was great energy. It was on fire.

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Speaker 2: I what a great night for the NBA right to have,

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Speaker 2: And the place was packed and it was a zoo

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to get much better.

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Speaker 2: want to shut him down.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think he plays a full season in

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Speaker 4: the NBA.

436
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: I know it's frustrating to all of us, but like

437
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: this is what happens when you draft a seven with

438
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: three dudees nineteen years old, right, you got to develop him,

439
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: and there's just not the time even now, like you

440
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Speaker 2: get done.

441
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Speaker 4: He's going to go back to sentence.

442
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Speaker 2: He's probably at some point got to go back to

443
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Speaker 2: France and get all this stuff.

444
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Speaker 4: You know, he's not just moving here and then he's

445
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Speaker 4: gonna start training.

446
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Speaker 2: There's just not enough time you got you start training

447
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Speaker 2: camp in September.

448
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Speaker 4: Right, it's mid July already, So I think they'll.

449
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Speaker 2: Use the first year as a toe in the water,

450
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Speaker 2: not jumping into the deep end. He'll play on some

451
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Speaker 2: made for TV games, And remember he plays for the Spurs, who,

452
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Speaker 2: even when they were NBA champions, they didn't care about

453
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Speaker 2: the league saying, hey, we're putting you on TV on

454
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Speaker 2: a Friday night against Lebron the heat they sat guys,

455
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Speaker 2: then they'll sit him this year. So to me, if

456
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Speaker 2: I'm betting, I'm going to the window the Rookie of

457
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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 4: Most likely.

459
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Speaker 2: You have to get the ball, you have to play minutes,

460
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Speaker 2: you have to play on a team that's not gonna win. Right,

461
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: it's Scoot Henderson. That's just the reality of it. Because

462
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Speaker 2: we're all going to vote for a guy who puts

463
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Speaker 2: up the best numbers, and the only guy who could

464
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Speaker 2: maybe sneak into that conversation would be somebody like Chet

465
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Speaker 2: because Chet can put up some ridiculous block shot numbers

466
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Speaker 2: from all around stats. I just don't think he gets

467
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: the volume of touches and the volume of stats because

468
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Speaker 2: he's playing on a team.

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Speaker 4: That's really, really good. Do they need him? Yeah? Will

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Speaker 4: he play?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

472
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Speaker 4: Will he get the ball and score twenty game? Hell?

473
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Speaker 2: No, Shay Gilds Alexander is that team's offense, and then

474
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Speaker 2: they all kind of play around.

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478
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Speaker 2: A couple Orange County kids up here, right, Josh Childris

480
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Speaker 2: Mayfair high School.

481
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Speaker 4: I'm Tustin High School. Previous generation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but Mayfair is that little window you and Landry Fields? Right?

483
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Speaker 4: A couple.

484
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Speaker 2: I know Landry was low sal but still like same

485
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Speaker 2: sort of same little window of success.

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Speaker 3: Stanford guys, Stanford.

487
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Speaker 4: Guys as well.

488
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Speaker 2: Right, Stanford guys is like the Brian Fitzpatrick of the NFL.

489
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Speaker 2: Like even if the dumbest guy at Stanford you walk

490
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Speaker 2: into the room, be like, oh, I forgot, he's smarter

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Speaker 2: than everybody else.

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Speaker 4: Can you help me with my help me with my taxes?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: How did that happen when you're in the league?

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00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, that's taxes, investment. I mean anything, you just

496
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 3: you automatically qualified.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about last night. I know

498
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Speaker 2: you just got in town. You didn't watch, you weren't

499
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Speaker 2: at the Webbie game. But it's more the difference in

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00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: the style of basketball, right, because you famously were playing

501
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: the league, good play in the league, left and went

502
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Speaker 2: to Greece, and I was trying to relay to people

503
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Speaker 2: on how THINKBA is going to be fine?

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Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, but it's a it's a completely different It.

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Speaker 2: Looks the same, smells the same, the court's the same length,

506
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: three point line is almost the same now it's supposed

507
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Speaker 2: to when you played different But it's a it's kind

508
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Speaker 2: of a different sport. How would you compare and contrast

509
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Speaker 2: the differences in playing at a high level in Europe

510
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Speaker 2: and playing NBA style basketball.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean europe basketball is fantastic, but it's much

512
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Speaker 3: more calculated. I think it's much less emphasis on and

513
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Speaker 3: you know, fast break and getting out and scoring and

514
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Speaker 3: much more on the structure game, which is what he's

515
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Speaker 3: played in. And you know, coming into Summer League of

516
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: all things, uh, you know, Summer League is running gun,

517
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Speaker 3: It's it's fast paced, and you know, guys are out

518
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Speaker 3: there just trying to try to make plays. You know,

519
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: the game will so down for him a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's his first game in Summer League. I don't think

521
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: the Spurs are worried. I don't think he's worried. But

522
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Speaker 3: it is a it's a shift in the game for sure.

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Speaker 4: When when you came out with Supper League, Lobby State.

524
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Speaker 3: That came out Summer League are Summer League was in

525
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Speaker 3: Salt Lake.

526
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Speaker 4: City, so so Salt Lake City Review, which they which

527
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Speaker 4: they have.

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Speaker 2: Now, what's that feeling like of the first time you

529
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Speaker 2: put on the logo?

530
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Speaker 3: Oh man, the nerves, the butterflies. You know, you want

531
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Speaker 3: to make sure you go out there and perform. Obviously

532
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Speaker 3: you had a good training camp with the team. But

533
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Speaker 3: it's fun and we went out there. We had a

534
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Speaker 3: young team, you know, it was it was about four

535
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Speaker 3: of us that were you know, fresh out of high

536
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Speaker 3: school or early college. And uh, there's a fun time.

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Speaker 3: Man's get out there and getting after it.

538
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Speaker 2: The the differences when you first get to the league, right,

539
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: and if you've ever been to the Farm, you ever

540
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: been to Stanford, you know, like that's not real.

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Speaker 4: Life, right.

542
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that well left, Okay.

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00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: So and for people who don't know, like anybody who's

544
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: been in the Stanford you tell me about wrong. Yah,

545
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Speaker 2: But like that's like the iconic if you could be

546
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Speaker 2: anywhere like that people are. It's diverse, it's smart at

547
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: the facility, like the everything's manicured perfectly. Now you've got

548
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: coaches that even live on campus. Like you got your

549
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: whole life in this one epicenter. It's like a utopia. Yep,

550
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Speaker 2: you're on your own. You're in Atlanta.

551
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: What was it like massive culture shock. I mean you

552
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Speaker 3: go from Morris County to Stanford and then to Atlanta,

553
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Speaker 3: a massive culture shot For me. I had great teammates

554
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Speaker 3: that helped me get used to the culture. But there's

555
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Speaker 3: a different world and especially leaving with Stanford, as you

556
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Speaker 3: mentioned it, it's its own little bubble that is unlike

557
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Speaker 3: anywhere else in the world. And so more from there

558
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Speaker 3: to Atlanta, which was high in g was entertainment capital

559
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Speaker 3: at the time. Uh, we had had a fun four

560
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Speaker 3: years for sure.

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Speaker 2: People I think whether they where they google you or

562
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: hoop heads or Whember, like, oh, you left the league

563
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: and went to went went to Greece kind of it

564
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: was a very unique path.

565
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Speaker 4: Why two reasons.

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Speaker 3: One, I didn't have a contract on the table here

567
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Speaker 3: in the league, and then secondly, I've always been open

568
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: to try something new, and I went over there, I

569
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: visited all went to visit Greece and wanted to take

570
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Speaker 3: on a new challenge. But I think had I had

571
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Speaker 3: a contract on the table, I mean maybe that doesn't happen.

572
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: So you get there and you're playing for one of

573
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Speaker 2: the powerful teams in all of Europe.

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Speaker 3: Which I didn't know at the time. I mean, you

575
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Speaker 3: didn't know. You only know you can see what just

576
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: in you know, YouTube and internet wasn't in the internet

577
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 3: back then. Yeah, so you see a few things on

578
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: TV and on the internet, but I didn't really understand

579
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Speaker 3: the power of oribacos.

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Speaker 4: You also did not think understood like even training camp.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, okay, so to the mountains.

582
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Speaker 2: Okay, So training camp in Atlanta was at the facility.

583
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: At the facility once a day, once a day. You know,

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Speaker 3: it was a couple of weeks. We had some some

585
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: you know, some track time and you know, early or

586
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: late summer just to you know, get in shape, your condition.

587
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: But you know, for the most part, it was pretty relaxed,

588
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: and I had a coach, Mike Woodson, who was old

589
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 3: school school all day, but you know, still it was

590
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Speaker 3: it was once a day and we went.

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Speaker 4: We went hard to have a woody impression. By the way,

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Speaker 4: everybody has a woppression.

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Speaker 3: I can't curse on air, so I'll just leave it there.

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00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: You could curse. This is podcast. Say whatever you want.

595
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Speaker 2: That's the beauty to podcast. You can you can drop

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Speaker 2: that pop Okay, fair enough. So you go to Olympiacos,

597
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: like this is a big, big thing that Josh Childress

598
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Speaker 2: is going to Olympiacos and leaving the NBA, and they're

599
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Speaker 2: like training camp is in mountains, in the mountains.

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Speaker 3: Took a three hour bus ride to the mountains. Yes,

601
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Speaker 3: it was just us in the resort, so no hanging out,

602
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: no no other source of activities. Yeah, we were just

603
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: there for like three weeks.

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Speaker 4: And again I did this in Russia.

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Speaker 2: So I'm guessing like some sort of running in the

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Speaker 2: morning and maybe lifting, and then you shoot for like

607
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: an hour and then you go, then you go have lunch,

608
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: take a nap, and then you go like two and

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Speaker 2: a half in the evening.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, it's a tough schedule. Yes, it's a tough

611
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: and we had our strength coach. You know, strength conditioning

612
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: coach spent some time in the league, so he had

613
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: a little bit of seasoning in what you know league

614
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: training looked like. So you know we were a little

615
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: bit advanced from that perspective, but it's still it's a grin.

616
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Speaker 4: Was there a point where you're like, what am I

617
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: doing well here?

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Speaker 3: But you suddenly and I had some good events, got

619
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Speaker 3: Lynn Greer was my first year, and uh love Land

620
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: and had some good guys around.

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Speaker 2: Me searching what, uh was pal the big Who's where's

622
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: the big rival?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Five?

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Speaker 4: Did I go to so so again?

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Speaker 2: And and this is hard for people to comprehend because

627
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Speaker 2: when you were at Stanford, that was one of the

628
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: iconic places to play, right you had the bouncy floor. Yeah,

629
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Speaker 2: and you know Tiger came to the games like it

630
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: was crazy. Now you look at Stanford, it's kind of sad.

631
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Speaker 2: It's like my old version don't draw really well. But uh,

632
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: Olympiacos versus Powell, what is that atmosphere?

633
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: Like it's unlike anything you will ever see in the US.

634
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I think imagine Cameron Indoor against U n

635
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: C on steroids and on HGH and everything else you

636
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Speaker 3: can imagine.

637
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: Did they have dude burning flares up in the.

638
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Speaker 3: My first game there you have the barriers behind the fence,

639
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: and the guys shot a flare through the barrier and

640
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: hit our towel bag. So our tower bag is on fire.

641
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: We're trying to count country on the game and it's

642
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: just just massive fire growing on the side of the bench.

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00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: So it was like a rude awakening into the European basketball.

644
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Speaker 4: How did you learn the language?

645
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: I didn't enough to order food?

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00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: Okay, so what was it? What was your what was

647
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: your favorite thing?

648
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: My favorite thing to these chicken skewers? Yeah, like you had.

649
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: The fries with the veta that was really good, like

650
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: the Greeks down fries pretty good.

651
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: And then I know how you stow.

652
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Speaker 2: You just say thank you exactly, thank you, thank you,

653
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you, and.

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00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: Then you kind of bounced around, right.

655
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: You did the Australia thing, you did Japan, you came

656
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: back to the States, you tried the G League. How

657
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: would you characterize like the rest because what happens is

658
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: you made the moved to grease, you tracked you then

659
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: you had great play in in the EuroLeague stuff, and.

660
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: Then people, you know, they go back to Paran.

661
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: But how would you characterize those that last those last stops.

662
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I came back to Phoenix after Greece

663
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: for a couple of years and then got released. You know,

664
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: it was a little bit nomadic in that in that

665
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: last last little bit of my career. But I enjoyed it.

666
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: I went to some countries and imagine me, they would

667
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: go to a play in and I had a great

668
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: time and happy without it all ended.

669
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: Coolest place you can, like you close your eyes, like

670
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: this is the coolest place I ever played, not necessarily

671
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: the whole game.

672
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 4: You just played in a.

673
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: I mean Sydney when we were playing, you know, we

674
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: walk outside after the game, you see the opera house

675
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: with great weather. It's you know, a great fan base.

676
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: It was a great time.

677
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: Plus people are they seem so chill there, like during

678
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: a game, super physical, right, but afterwards it's like, hey,

679
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: let's let's go off to Plint.

680
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: And ironically I had Olympiakos fans in Sydney, so they

681
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: would come to game channing the Olympiaco's chance. So it

682
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: was it was a great.

683
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: Time when you made the move back to the NBA.

684
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: You know, so oftentimes I think guys that play in

685
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: a high level of college and they go play kind

686
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: of the mid level in Europe play struggle because it's

687
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: just you don't feel it, you're not tied to the team,

688
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: you don't have the emotions to it.

689
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 4: You're you're leaving behind.

690
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: You play at a great club in Europe where they're

691
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: firing players, and it's nuts. You come back and play

692
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: for the Suns. You're not playing nearly as much. What

693
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: are those emotions like here?

694
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: Who's tough? Who's tough?

695
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: Time?

696
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: My career I didn't play and uh, you know, dealing

697
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: with that and not having you know, really a path

698
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: forward challenging. And then after that, you know, depending on

699
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: how you position yourself in your land, you're kind of

700
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: bounce around because people questioned why you didn't work out

701
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: there and got to be, you know, mindful of the

702
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: right fit and so I wasn't able to find that

703
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: right fit in the league. But you know, I went

704
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: overseas and had a good time.

705
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 5: What is it like to come to the conclusion, Yeah,

706
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: it's different for every guy, I mean you for me,

707
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: it was uh, you felt good about it.

708
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: Fifteen years total, it's had a great, great career, great time.

709
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: Give me what you were was there like a moment

710
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: where you're like, that's ah No.

711
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: I had a started a family and so at that time,

712
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: you know, being overseas and not having your family with

713
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: you was tough. So that was tough.

714
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: So did you have a plan?

715
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: I did. So I got injured in New Orleans left

716
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: I had to get surgery and they went back and

717
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: finished a standard. So that was five years before I

718
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: was done. So I kind of started the planning process then.

719
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 4: And what was what was the plan in your mind?

720
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: This is, you know, be a business owner of so

721
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: my own business, which what I do now. I have

722
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: a little state investment firm, and you know, just continue

723
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: to build on the foundation that I laid over the

724
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: fifteen years, you know, and and build something that I

725
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 3: can be proud of and pass down to my kids,

726
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: you know in the future.

727
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 4: And a commercial real estate or or resident So.

728
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: We build an investment apartments, apartment buildings on the West coast,

729
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: So we have a nice project here in Vegas. Yeah.

730
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: And does it when you wake up in the morning,

731
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: does it still bring you like joy and energy to

732
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: do it.

733
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's more stressful. You know, you're dealing with,

734
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: you know, just a wide range of other variables that

735
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 3: you didn't ever imagine. And you know, I'm also dealing

736
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: with other people's money, which is you know, stressful in itself.

737
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's a it's been fun, it's

738
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: been a journey. I'm looking forward to growing it, but

739
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: it's a different kind of stress.

740
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: What's the What's that's the hardest part about it? What's

741
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 4: the most challenging element to it?

742
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: I'll say it is you You experienced this in your

743
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 3: career too. You're always in a position where people are

744
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: chasing you, you know, and looking after you, and you

745
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: get to roll the red carpet rolled out and you know,

746
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: you're very rarely hear knows maybe toward the end of

747
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: your career, you know, as things wind out, but you know,

748
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: starting a company raising capital, like I heard hundreds of

749
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: nose and it was challenging because historically I had never

750
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 3: heard that, you know, And it's it's about that resilience.

751
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: So that's it.

752
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: That's a That's an awesome way to pivot and have

753
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: this conversation because we're giving what kids more yeses than

754
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: ever before.

755
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh.

756
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: One of my dear friends is a high ranking offensive

757
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: coordinator in college football and he's like, look, I know

758
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: that people thought college kids had it bad before they're

759
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: getting paid, but it's going to be worse. And I

760
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: asked them to kind of flush it out. And he's like,

761
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: you know, look, if you're given a kid one hundred

762
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: and fifty two hundred grand to play a sport.

763
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: College, they get out of college, they think.

764
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: That's there at the borrow, that's their life.

765
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 4: Like that ain't a real life, bro, That ain't real

766
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: life at all.

767
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: So having having been through it, obviously you had to

768
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: be an incredible student and student athlete to go to Stanford,

769
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: but then to come back to Stanford as well, Like

770
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: that takes a different sort of stuff. And now as

771
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: an adult with kids, what's the what's the best? Like,

772
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: let's just take basketball. Now you have nil in college,

773
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: but also there's an il in high school.

774
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, dudes can go to overtime E league. They're expanding.

775
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: You got G league? Ignite.

776
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: If I put you in charge, I say, Josh, you've

777
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: lived it, what do you do?

778
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: How did can you?

779
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: Can you go stake my school the league, Silver's the

780
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: only one pushing that one. Do you do you go

781
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: back to the old college system? Can you transfer them

782
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: without penalty?

783
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 4: What do you do?

784
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't allow players to come straight out

785
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: of high school to the league. I think there needs

786
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: to be a year stop gap somewhere just to get

787
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: a foundation how to be a pro college is that

788
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: for some people? G League, Knight, Overtime Elitue, the NBL,

789
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: which is a league I'm involved in, but there needs

790
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 3: to be a Scott I stop. Yeah. Secondly, I think

791
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: there needs to be more formation of education around finances

792
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: for these kids. Just one thing they're getting paid, they're

793
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: using their name in is like just to do that

794
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: as fair as fine, But you know, if you're putting

795
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: a hand you know two and are grand in the

796
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: hands of a seventeen year old, they're going to do

797
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: stupid stuff and there needs to be I think a

798
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: more a better and more intentional foundation around that help

799
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: them educate themselves and create you know, less just wild

800
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 3: wild West sort of strategy for a lot of these teams.

801
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: I think it's a great point. You mentioned you're involved

802
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: with the NBL. They have their program is starting to

803
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: get players from America. Yeah, what is unique about it

804
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: as opposed to the ignite, as opposed to overtime A leaders.

805
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: I say the NBL is probably one of the closest

806
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: in terms of just how the game translates from there

807
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: to the NBA that I've seen, and I've played there

808
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: for three years, I know it. And now we've had success.

809
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: We've had year over year we've had guys come over

810
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: either you know, just guys that were in the league

811
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: or LaMelo Balls and Argie Hampton's and you know the

812
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: kids that got drafted for the past couple of years

813
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: that have come in the league and had success, And

814
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: that's just a testament to the league. They've grown it

815
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: the right way. You know, you get a true season

816
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: of strength conditioning, and you know, Australians and sports science

817
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: is one of the top of the world, and the

818
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: coaching over there is great and there's a lot of

819
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: you know, connectivity to the to the NBA. So I

820
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: think that the NBL needs to have more players come over,

821
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: you know, because the league is fantastic and it is growing.

822
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: It really is okay, So for you you're here, you

823
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,959
Speaker 2: got your real estate stuff.

824
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 4: You're in town? What else are you doing in Vegas?

825
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: Come to watch some games? I want to hang out.

826
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: Who are you most excited to see?

827
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: I want to see more of Brandon Miller. I mean

828
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: everybody will to see who, but I think I'm intrigued

829
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: to see what. You know, what Jordan saw in him?

830
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: You know over Overscoo.

831
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: So it's a it's a really interesting question because Scoot.

832
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: I think Scoot's gonna be a real good year, you know,

833
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: I mean, guys, an unbelievable athlete. He can good bye

834
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: is it's hard to keep out of the lane, you know,

835
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what what his shooting ends up looking like,

836
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: it'll be better than it is now. That's probably the

837
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: one limiting factor. And size and league's just get bigger

838
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: and bigger, and he's obviously built like a grown man.

839
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: But you know, sixty two and a half six three.

840
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: Who knows my thoughts on Brandon Miller? And I'd love

841
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: to hear it after you watch him, as I like

842
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: the idea, I think what Jordan saw as when he's

843
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: got Lamello ball and they're pot committed there right paying

844
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: him nearly a quarter billion dollars. You know if I committed,

845
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: So he'll be great because he's he was sixty percent

846
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: shooter on just catch and shooting at Alabama now college three,

847
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: but clearly has NBA ran yep, and has all of

848
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: the things that would be you check the box in

849
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: terms of a modern day NBA defensive player, length, athleticism, intelligence,

850
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: has enough toughness, has some ship to him a little bit.

851
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: You know the question, can he be a star? Well

852
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: that's different now, right? Can you can he be a

853
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: three level scorer in the league? That that one I don't.

854
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: I don't know about. And it'll be interesting because he's

855
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: a guy who made a seismic jump in his draft

856
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: stock during his year at Alabama.

857
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 4: But it's hard because you know, when you're.

858
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: Playing in college, you're not necessarily playing against pros, right rescue,

859
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: he's playing against pros, right So it's it's it's gonna

860
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: be an interesting yeah.

861
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: But I mean when the cream rids at the top

862
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: and you you know, see a kid like that, he

863
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: has all the physical gifts, seems like, you know, on

864
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: his game. So I haven't seen to play enough, but

865
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: I've seen enough to see he's got it. It's just

866
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: a matter of can he put it together and can

867
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 3: they put it right support system around him to maximize

868
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: his talent. LaMelo is great, and you gotta have some

869
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: bests in the locker room and kind of help guide

870
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: all those guys.

871
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

872
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Speaker 3: You know, we've seen some issues in locker rooms here

873
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: recently because of that, So hopefully they do a good

874
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: job and creating support around him.

875
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 4: Uh. How much you like watching yokid you play?

876
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: I love it? I love it, I mean and tell

877
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: tale you know of playing in Europe, you have these

878
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: guys that super talented, probably on your team, have no

879
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: interesting coming to the NBA. Yeah, but just can hope

880
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: and I just he's that for me.

881
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they do the the awkward stretching stuff they do,

882
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: you know, and it looks funky. It's not what we're

883
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: used to, but it's really effective.

884
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 4: It was it was I thought that would that be

885
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: a guy that you love it you and.

886
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: You know as approach to the game, and I want

887
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: a ton of the playoffs with him. Just the fact

888
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: that a guy at that statue can go into the

889
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: game first quarter not even a tempt to shot, you know,

890
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 3: on purpose, just to make sure his teammates are getting involved.

891
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: And everybody's getting involved and then you know, last three quarters,

892
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: just turn it up.

893
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: I just attest him to his talent if you could.

894
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: And again, I mean there's probably a million things you

895
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: could say.

896
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: But say there's a high school.

897
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: Kid out there and he's fascinated with you, your path,

898
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: your success personally professionally, what would be the advice you get?

899
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: Reach out to me? How you know? Social media? Yeah,

900
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: social media easy. But I'll tell you the other thing

901
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: is educate yourself on the business of the league. I

902
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: think that that's super important. You know, these guys you

903
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: mentioned the mellow, these guys are going to be billionaires.

904
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 3: And you get a couple of these guys that will

905
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: get two or three contracts over the next you know,

906
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: ten years. These are the game has changed a bit,

907
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: and so just being mindful of that. Educating yourself on

908
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: the finances and the business behind it is one of

909
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: the biggest pieces of advice.

910
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 4: What what what percentage?

911
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: Again, this is just your perspective of players value that

912
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: education piece. And I say it because I think we

913
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: do a terrible job in the media of expressing any

914
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: sort of interest in it. But it's like all the

915
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 2: things you're saying are like, you should educate yourself, And

916
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: I agree we should have some pretty professional program college

917
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: basketball players on agents, taxes, investments, all this stuff that

918
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: we should teach as opposed to like do I really

919
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: need to go into you know, social sciences, and like

920
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: that's not going to help me. Now, high level math

921
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: is not going to help me. Tell me how I

922
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: can manage my money and manage my life.

923
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 4: But you know, you lived it.

924
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: What percentage of NBA players do you think value that

925
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: side of it, not just the business side of it,

926
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: but the understanding and educating themselves on everything going on.

927
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: I think years probably one to five, fifteen to twenty percent.

928
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: When you get you know, year seven to twelve, you know,

929
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: it probably takes up to sixty to seventy percent. So

930
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: just a matter of age. I mean, you come in

931
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: the league, you're invincible. You can do it wrong. All

932
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: your boys are around you. You know, it's a different

933
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: sort of mentality.

934
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Speaker 6: Do you miss the baby fro? I can grow it back,

935
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 6: I know, but you don't have you miss it? Too

936
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Speaker 6: much work, too much work, too much work. Hey Josh Man,

937
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 6: it's great catching up with you. I congratulations on all

938
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 6: your success refercally Amphibets.

939
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Speaker 3: I appreciate

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