WEBVTT - Lanterns S1E03 0:00:00.220 --> 0:00:19.520 Warning! Today's episode contains spoilers for episode 3 of Lanterns. Hello! 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:20.940 My name is Jason Concepcion. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:22.410 And I'm Rosie Knight. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:24.709 And welcome back to X-Ray Vision, the podcast where we 0:00:24.750 --> 0:00:26.669 dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, podcasts, and 0:00:26.690 --> 0:00:28.430 where we bring you the episodes of X-Ray Vision. 0:00:30.450 --> 0:00:35.280 And today, guys, it is a recap of Lanterns episode three. 0:00:35.380 --> 0:00:37.950 And if you can tell, I'm excited. There may be 0:00:37.979 --> 0:00:42.390 some art involved. Oh, this was really, for me, the 0:00:42.430 --> 0:00:44.510 best episode so far. And I'm so excited to talk 0:00:44.530 --> 0:00:45.350 to Jason about it. 0:00:45.909 --> 0:00:46.040 And. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.750 Impending Doomsday is mutating. All year, we've been giving you 0:00:50.810 --> 0:00:54.250 monthly highlights of the MCU, but now with Doomsday imminent, 0:00:54.470 --> 0:00:57.450 we're upping the ante. Starting in September, we will be 0:00:57.510 --> 0:01:02.670 releasing weekly episodes focusing on each of the 15 Marvel movies. Oh, 0:01:02.810 --> 0:01:05.670 it's 14 movies on one TV show. We'll be upping 0:01:05.709 --> 0:01:10.470 the ante. We will be releasing weekly episodes focusing on 0:01:10.470 --> 0:01:16.370 14 movies. a one TV show that Marvel Studios has 0:01:16.450 --> 0:01:20.910 identified as the 15 essential projects to watch before Avengers Doomsday. 0:01:21.170 --> 0:01:23.230 We're watching it so you don't have to, or so 0:01:23.250 --> 0:01:23.970 you can watch along. 0:01:24.209 --> 0:01:27.110 We're kicking things off with the original X-Men, so grab 0:01:27.170 --> 0:01:29.300 the black leather suits from the closet and fire up 0:01:29.330 --> 0:01:31.419 a rewatch of this classic from 2000. 0:01:31.420 --> 0:01:37.530 But first, Lanterns, episode three. We open on 2016, this 0:01:37.569 --> 0:01:40.190 is a flashback within a flashback episode. 0:01:40.209 --> 0:01:42.089 Within a flashback. 0:01:42.670 --> 0:01:46.430 We see John fall from the high domed glass roof 0:01:46.770 --> 0:01:49.890 of a mall into a big pile of mattresses. He 0:01:49.950 --> 0:01:54.440 wanders around the inside of this abandoned mall. 0:01:54.820 --> 0:01:55.700 Very liminal. 0:01:56.180 --> 0:02:00.900 Yeah, very liminal through a kind of unused storefront to 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:05.180 a door marked manager's office where Laura Linney greets him. 0:02:05.950 --> 0:02:10.060 Love this. I guess she was for the audience. 0:02:10.300 --> 0:02:16.100 Laura, Laura Linney, uh, says, great. You're here. I'll be 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.580 right back. Um, just sit right there. I'll be right back. 0:02:19.340 --> 0:02:25.459 Much time passes like sunsets. It's nighttime. The sun rises again. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.040 The next day. Sometimes she comes back. John is still 0:02:29.060 --> 0:02:31.010 sitting in the chair. She was like, I was, you know, 0:02:31.030 --> 0:02:32.889 you didn't leave. You didn't go anywhere. You're still here. 0:02:32.930 --> 0:02:34.230 And he's like, I was told to wait. And he's 0:02:34.310 --> 0:02:39.560 demonstrating that like he can follow orders. She's a guardian, 0:02:39.700 --> 0:02:43.820 but in human form, taking the form of famed actress, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:48.690 Laura Linney. She said, Hey, I just need someone he's 0:02:48.710 --> 0:02:51.010 familiar with. I just need someone. 0:02:51.290 --> 0:02:52.910 He's a fan of Laura Linney. 0:02:53.070 --> 0:02:53.389 Right. 0:02:54.330 --> 0:02:57.950 Um, John, of course, he's been studying for this his 0:02:57.990 --> 0:02:59.810 whole life. He knows who the Guardians are. They are 0:02:59.830 --> 0:03:02.630 the ruling body of the cosmos. They founded the Lanterns. 0:03:03.310 --> 0:03:07.070 One of the 12 Guardians recently passed. He gives his condolences. 0:03:08.730 --> 0:03:12.630 John asks why this interview is happening like this. Usually 0:03:12.669 --> 0:03:16.669 the ring chooses the wearer, but this time it's like 0:03:16.690 --> 0:03:21.570 there's a job interview. And Laura Linney says it's because 0:03:21.610 --> 0:03:27.010 of the recent passing of that Guardian interview. And she's like, 0:03:28.310 --> 0:03:32.000 why do you think it's, why do you think we're 0:03:32.020 --> 0:03:34.040 choosing you? And John says, I know exactly why. 0:03:34.180 --> 0:03:36.730 He's like, I know fucking why, bro. And I just 0:03:36.770 --> 0:03:40.530 want to say, I just want to say, my child protection. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.320 Radar is undeniable, guys. Because I told you there was 0:03:45.340 --> 0:03:48.190 something wrong with his parents in the first episode. 0:03:48.230 --> 0:03:51.410 And people were like, this is weird. I'm sorry. 0:03:51.510 --> 0:03:53.850 I think that's the wrong way to frame it. Wrong 0:03:53.900 --> 0:03:57.470 with his parents. I... I mean, I'm not saying that 0:03:57.500 --> 0:03:59.910 this is good or that the way he was raised. 0:03:59.970 --> 0:04:02.550 It's a fantastic episode and it deals with a lot 0:04:02.570 --> 0:04:05.390 of really deep, interesting stuff. But the way his parents 0:04:05.470 --> 0:04:07.550 deal with this situation is not healthy. 0:04:07.610 --> 0:04:09.670 Let's put it that way. And it's because of the guardians. 0:04:09.750 --> 0:04:12.250 It's not healthy. I agree it's not healthy. I think 0:04:12.290 --> 0:04:14.150 this episode, I will say before we get into it, 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:18.700 does a good job of trying to balance, like, they 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.400 do give John the opportunity at any time to be like, 0:04:21.420 --> 0:04:22.420 I don't want to do this anymore. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:24.280 We'll move on. 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.270 So we flashback to John as a baby. He's in 0:04:27.290 --> 0:04:35.190 the crib. He witnesses essentially the moment when the ring 0:04:35.350 --> 0:04:40.219 calls out to its next wearer. And we learn that 0:04:40.820 --> 0:04:51.190 parallel to Hal's choosing, it also chose John's father, Johnny. 0:04:52.550 --> 0:04:56.720 and asked him the question, are you afraid? And Hal 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.800 also saw it. So it spoke to John as well, 0:04:59.820 --> 0:05:01.440 who was in the crib, but, you know, John is 0:05:01.500 --> 0:05:04.799 a child and could not respond in any kind of way. 0:05:05.420 --> 0:05:10.990 And Johnny, the father, is so shaken by this question 0:05:11.089 --> 0:05:11.890 and is afraid. 0:05:11.910 --> 0:05:16.650 And the green alien light, understandable. Yeah, so shaken by this. 0:05:16.670 --> 0:05:18.070 It's a terrifying scene. 0:05:18.570 --> 0:05:22.930 He is basically unhinged by this. The next day there's 0:05:22.970 --> 0:05:25.810 a news report or sometime later there's a news report 0:05:26.870 --> 0:05:33.460 about Hal Jordan's first public statement as the Green Lantern. And, 0:05:33.690 --> 0:05:35.920 you know, the reporter is basically saying that we don't 0:05:35.940 --> 0:05:37.840 know who this guy is. He's in a mask, but 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:42.560 that he's pledged to serve humankind and be a hero 0:05:42.620 --> 0:05:46.820 and all this other stuff. And that it gives a 0:05:47.100 --> 0:05:51.570 tidbit about the are you afraid thing. choosing bit and 0:05:51.690 --> 0:05:56.450 how that happened and how he's not afraid and johnny 0:05:57.100 --> 0:06:01.500 shoots the television he's so traumatized by this whole thing 0:06:02.420 --> 0:06:05.219 and his wife comes in it's like what the fuck 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.720 are you doing and he's like and the kids are 0:06:07.740 --> 0:06:10.160 calling on the floor he's like don't you see this 0:06:10.220 --> 0:06:12.380 is what happened to me like it asked me if 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:17.839 i was crazy green light like immense power. And yeah, 0:06:17.900 --> 0:06:19.540 it asked me if I was afraid. And yes, I 0:06:19.580 --> 0:06:22.140 was afraid. And she's trying to tell him like it 0:06:22.180 --> 0:06:26.520 was a nightmare. And he's basically being driven to the 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.680 verge of insanity by the fact that like one, no 0:06:29.740 --> 0:06:33.220 one believes him. And this insane, this really intense thing 0:06:33.580 --> 0:06:34.620 happened to him. She kicks him out. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.820 Well, also too, he's also realized that he failed the test. 0:06:37.940 --> 0:06:41.320 So that's also kind of driving him, starting to drive 0:06:41.339 --> 0:06:42.750 him more crazy too. 0:06:42.790 --> 0:06:47.360 There's this feeling of, immense failure seeing what Hal has 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:53.640 achieved and what was in his grasp. Laura Linney comes 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:58.330 to the house later that night and is looking for 0:06:58.450 --> 0:07:02.450 Sergeant Johnny Seward. And Laura Linney, on the behalf of 0:07:02.470 --> 0:07:06.800 the Guardians, is like, hey, really... we've come to kind 0:07:06.860 --> 0:07:09.420 of understand that that could have been like very, very 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.340 traumatizing and troubling for humans. 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.400 And seems like maybe there's been a few other people 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.670 that have been horribly traumatized by this. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.930 This is, listen, we've never had a human green lantern. 0:07:20.210 --> 0:07:22.310 So this is just like a pilot project. 0:07:22.330 --> 0:07:31.330 Like we don't, we're still. 0:07:28.730 --> 0:07:30.970 Working at the kinks in the system. Like we know 0:07:31.010 --> 0:07:34.520 very little about human society. Like we're just working out. Um, 0:07:35.730 --> 0:07:41.760 John's mom is like, okay, prove you're an alien. So 0:07:41.780 --> 0:07:44.960 Laura Linney is like, really? And it transforms into her 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.840 guardian form and then transforms back. Mom is like, okay, 0:07:49.860 --> 0:07:53.520 come in for a coffee. Mom is a teacher and 0:07:55.570 --> 0:07:59.630 is like, hey, so do you understand about like racial 0:07:59.670 --> 0:08:03.890 hierarchies and anti-blackness in the US? And Laura Linney is like, no, what? 0:08:04.690 --> 0:08:10.610 And so- mom explains a little bit about how that 0:08:10.690 --> 0:08:14.210 works and why a black man would be very, very, 0:08:14.290 --> 0:08:18.200 would react differently than a white man in America to 0:08:18.220 --> 0:08:21.400 the question, are you afraid? Laura Linney then takes this 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:26.300 all in and her response is, well, you know, interesting, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:30.710 you know, humans don't live very long and, um, you know, 0:08:30.730 --> 0:08:35.150 maybe one of your kids, you know, like genetically they would, 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.670 the line would be the same from the dad to 0:08:38.710 --> 0:08:41.670 the kids. And so, you know, it's possible that one 0:08:41.690 --> 0:08:43.890 of your kids would have the shot. Like if they 0:08:43.929 --> 0:08:46.170 could be raised in a fearless fashion, maybe they get 0:08:46.190 --> 0:08:47.469 the ring. 0:08:47.510 --> 0:08:49.790 She was like, so let's talk about genealogy. I was like, 0:08:49.850 --> 0:08:51.350 I don't think it's a good time, babe. 0:08:51.450 --> 0:08:54.859 She, and so Laura Linney gives mom her word that 0:08:55.660 --> 0:08:59.640 when the time comes, her child, which the mom has 0:08:59.660 --> 0:09:01.580 already decided it's going to be John because. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:02.920 The other kids, it's too late. Because he needs to 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:03.360 be raised already. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.370 They're too old already. We'll get a fair shot when 0:09:07.390 --> 0:09:10.250 the time comes. We go back to 2016. Laura Linney 0:09:10.309 --> 0:09:13.150 is asking John about being a Marine, which was his 0:09:13.690 --> 0:09:16.550 path toward becoming a Green Lantern and part of his, 0:09:17.429 --> 0:09:22.210 the end kind of stage of this kind of fearless training. 0:09:22.670 --> 0:09:24.429 And we flash back to John as a Marine. He 0:09:24.470 --> 0:09:29.640 meets this high governmental official at an outback steakhouse on 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.240 a mission related to national security. John is a very 0:09:33.300 --> 0:09:36.630 buttoned up Marine at this point. He appears in dress uniform, 0:09:36.690 --> 0:09:38.730 which the guy was like, this is like an undercover mission. 0:09:38.990 --> 0:09:41.600 Come on, my guy. You're in a diner. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:42.660 Yeah, you're here. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:43.439 What is going on? 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:44.460 In your dress uniform. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.420 I did think that was a really great tiny moment 0:09:47.460 --> 0:09:50.420 of character work, though, because it also kind of shows 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.390 how the things they weren't able to train him in 0:09:53.470 --> 0:09:56.350 or the things he missed from being so buttoned up 0:09:56.410 --> 0:09:58.950 and in the military. And I think this journey is 0:09:59.030 --> 0:10:02.630 about how... John becomes more of a whole person before 0:10:02.670 --> 0:10:05.480 he becomes the Green Lantern. But yeah, I thought that 0:10:05.500 --> 0:10:07.939 was a great character moment because it's such a kind 0:10:08.020 --> 0:10:11.040 of good old boy soldier thing to do is like, 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.479 I'm turning up to work with my superior and the 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.640 guy's like, come on bro, I'm wearing like a, may 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:17.360 as well be wearing a Bass Pro hat, you know? 0:10:18.020 --> 0:10:24.280 So- The handler gives John a file which has information 0:10:24.340 --> 0:10:28.130 about the mission. The mission is to assassinate a money 0:10:28.150 --> 0:10:33.250 launderer codenamed Gray Wolf. No one knows where Gray Wolf goes, 0:10:33.350 --> 0:10:35.690 where he lives, where he goes to and from. The 0:10:35.770 --> 0:10:40.420 only location they know of is this cabin out in 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:45.300 the wilderness of Russia, the Kamacha Peninsula, which is in 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:51.800 the far western area of Russia. And they don't know 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.640 when he will go there. They don't know how long 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.990 he would stay there. If he goes there, they don't know. 0:10:58.030 --> 0:11:00.790 They just know it exists. That's like they've said they've 0:11:00.830 --> 0:11:01.969 managed to find. 0:11:02.050 --> 0:11:04.110 It's the one place they know that he goes. And 0:11:04.150 --> 0:11:06.670 so John would have to go out there and he'd 0:11:06.690 --> 0:11:09.100 have to be out there for weeks, maybe months, who knows. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.900 And this is the third attempt. We find out the 0:11:11.940 --> 0:11:14.820 last team disappeared. It has not been heard of. So 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.800 this could be a one way mission. We then get, 0:11:18.429 --> 0:11:23.000 A flashback inside the flashback to John as a baby again. 0:11:23.020 --> 0:11:27.610 And I will say, I don't love when episodes... This 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:28.530 is a great episode. 0:11:28.809 --> 0:11:31.050 This is the best episode of the show so far, 0:11:31.130 --> 0:11:31.910 in my opinion. 0:11:32.270 --> 0:11:36.500 Yes, I agree. And I think that... That said, I 0:11:37.059 --> 0:11:39.880 usually hate when shows do this flashback inside of a 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.490 flashback to another flashback, flash forward, down back. 0:11:42.770 --> 0:11:43.090 Yeah. 0:11:43.190 --> 0:11:45.809 But I think this one handles it pretty well. 0:11:46.190 --> 0:11:49.530 The interview framing, it's kind of like interview the vampire. 0:11:49.670 --> 0:11:51.830 It's a smart way to kind of do it because 0:11:51.850 --> 0:11:57.709 you're really, you're seeing through John's eyes how he became 0:11:58.450 --> 0:12:00.050 in the position to have this interview. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:06.250 And it seems like they do roundabout like whole- numbers 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.860 for John's, like, age. So he's, like, zero years old, 0:12:09.900 --> 0:12:12.160 then he's five years old, then he's 10, then he's 20. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.800 You know, it's like, they're not, like, they're making it graspable, 0:12:16.900 --> 0:12:19.060 even though, like, this is kind of, like, a pretty naughty. 0:12:19.140 --> 0:12:21.670 Yeah, yeah, it's not completely non-linear, but it is. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.580 I would say the emotional kind of storytelling and the 0:12:25.660 --> 0:12:28.099 vibes of the episode really carry it through. 0:12:28.340 --> 0:12:30.660 I mean, I was literally heated in the chat, like, 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.640 this should have been the pilot. It's so good. 0:12:32.660 --> 0:12:33.100 I disagree. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.240 We can have that conversation later. But it's so good, guys. 0:12:36.300 --> 0:12:37.280 It's such a good episode. 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:42.730 So, John is a baby again. Johnny, we see is, 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:46.830 this is very soon after the Laura Linney visit, and 0:12:46.910 --> 0:12:51.250 Johnny has been totally unhinged again by everything that's happening. Nobody... 0:12:51.580 --> 0:12:56.280 Believes him. They think he's crazy. Mom shows him the diamond. 0:12:56.340 --> 0:12:58.140 Laura Linney brought her a diamond as a way to 0:12:58.179 --> 0:13:00.270 be like, hey, sorry about it. Like, here's like a. 0:13:01.140 --> 0:13:02.820 Giant diamond. 0:13:02.820 --> 0:13:07.240 $ 15 million diamond. Like the size of a baseball. And 0:13:07.660 --> 0:13:09.360 mom shows him the diamond and is like, hey, the 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.319 aliens came. And they were like, sorry. And she tells 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:18.490 him that, listen, I know you're devastated at missing your 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.290 shot to be a Green Lantern, but. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:26.900 John, they said it could be John. And so, you know, 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:31.380 we know what this is. You know, you're black in 0:13:31.420 --> 0:13:33.960 this country. You're going to be looked over. You're not 0:13:33.980 --> 0:13:36.680 going to be paid attention to. Our other boys are 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.810 too old. Let's raise John in a fearless fashion. And 0:13:39.870 --> 0:13:41.790 I've been really studying how. 0:13:41.650 --> 0:13:42.370 To raise him. 0:13:42.990 --> 0:13:45.819 I read a lot of books on survivalism. Like we're 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.980 going to go ham on this kid. Like this is 0:13:48.020 --> 0:13:50.540 going to be the toughest kid ever. And he's going 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.199 to be very traumatized, very traumatized. 0:13:53.300 --> 0:14:01.550 We flash forward to John talking about back to the mission. 0:14:02.170 --> 0:14:04.770 He's airdropped into the wilderness with his gear. They give 0:14:04.809 --> 0:14:06.590 him like a panic button to push so they could, 0:14:07.380 --> 0:14:10.810 But he won't push it. He's like, I'm not going 0:14:10.830 --> 0:14:14.250 to push it. It's a very bad storm, wind and lightning. 0:14:14.290 --> 0:14:17.270 He crashes through the trees, lands in the water. He's injured. 0:14:18.190 --> 0:14:21.800 We go back to the interview. John is telling Laura Linney, 0:14:22.540 --> 0:14:25.120 by the way, I was disarmingly discharged from the Marines. 0:14:25.900 --> 0:14:28.580 And she's like, why? And he's like, well, I failed 0:14:28.620 --> 0:14:31.700 a mission. But I can't really talk about it because 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.960 it's classified. She's like, what do you think? The stuff 0:14:33.980 --> 0:14:35.560 we're talking about that I'm talking to you about is 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:36.600 not classified? 0:14:37.300 --> 0:14:40.540 Yeah. You're a fucking space cop. You think that's not 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:41.020 a secret? 0:14:41.420 --> 0:14:43.920 I'm going to be also talking about classified stuff. And 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.900 she's like, what do you know about Sinestro? And he's like, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.260 just the stuff I saw on the news. 0:14:50.510 --> 0:14:51.050 Bad guy. 0:14:51.130 --> 0:14:53.690 How Jordan beat the shit out of him and put 0:14:53.730 --> 0:14:59.800 him in jail. And Laura Linney is like, well... what 0:14:59.820 --> 0:15:01.500 do you, do you have any feelings about Hal Jordan? 0:15:02.260 --> 0:15:04.450 And John's like, I have zero feelings about Hal Jordan. 0:15:04.470 --> 0:15:06.930 I just know who he is. She's like, you have 0:15:06.990 --> 0:15:09.110 no feelings. He's like, no, no, no. I have zero feelings. 0:15:09.750 --> 0:15:14.000 She tells John that Sinestra was Hal's mentor and that 0:15:15.140 --> 0:15:19.880 the Guardian's a little concerned about the remaining emotional connection 0:15:19.980 --> 0:15:23.670 to Sinestra that Hal has. Hal still has And we 0:15:23.710 --> 0:15:24.650 know that's true. 0:15:24.710 --> 0:15:26.530 We just saw him at the end of the last 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.320 episode going to see Sinestro. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.540 Yeah, despite taking him down. And John says, and this 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.440 is an important framing I think that we need to 0:15:33.460 --> 0:15:35.860 take in mind, despite the fact that I think that 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.720 you are right that, listen, you're right that. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.500 I'm coming to this from an experience of. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.320 Someone whose parents. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.480 I agree with John. You love someone even if the 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.380 people they raised you are a mess. But as someone 0:15:47.420 --> 0:15:50.520 who was raised in a mess, I can recognize a mess. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:51.420 This is a mess. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.600 John says that's a very human thing to feel connected 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.680 to whoever raised you despite the fact that they didn't 0:15:58.820 --> 0:16:00.220 raise you in an exact way. 0:16:00.260 --> 0:16:03.540 He says however crazy they are hilariously, which I love. 0:16:04.210 --> 0:16:06.420 We flash back to John's fifth birthday. He gets a 0:16:06.450 --> 0:16:10.510 Green Lantern uniform for his birthday. He asks for crayons. Sorry, 0:16:10.550 --> 0:16:13.390 you're getting this. My son. And something else. Mom and 0:16:13.410 --> 0:16:15.740 dad tell him, listen, your destiny is to become a 0:16:15.740 --> 0:16:17.140 Green Lantern. That's why we treat you differently. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:17.640 You're old enough. 0:16:17.660 --> 0:16:18.160 You're five. 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:18.700 Yeah. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:19.220 You're five. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.880 They tell him the whole crazy story. The siblings clearly 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.080 have very complex feelings about this, and that will only 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.880 increase over time. His connection with the birds we see 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.720 comes from this moment in which they tell him that 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:36.880 the guardians, apparently Laura Linney told mom that they'll be 0:16:36.940 --> 0:16:41.660 watching him through birds as little weird almost like living 0:16:41.740 --> 0:16:45.940 drones that will report back to the guardians on John's progress. 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:51.980 And he gets a little 22 rifle. We go back 0:16:52.020 --> 0:16:54.380 to the mission. John was injured in the fall. He 0:16:54.420 --> 0:16:58.420 does some like Rambo-esque field medicine and prepares his sniper position. 0:16:59.210 --> 0:17:02.590 Laura Linney asks, are you mad at your parents for 0:17:02.610 --> 0:17:06.090 his training? John, to be fair, does kind of dodge 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.449 the question. He doesn't really answer it. 0:17:08.890 --> 0:17:13.310 This is the least honest he is with her. And again, great, really, 0:17:13.369 --> 0:17:16.490 really subtle story change where this is where he is 0:17:16.570 --> 0:17:17.949 not comfortable to share. 0:17:18.100 --> 0:17:20.760 I mean, he says no, but also it's clear that 0:17:20.780 --> 0:17:22.919 there's more to the story and he doesn't want to... 0:17:23.340 --> 0:17:25.149 He's not comfortable sharing the. 0:17:27.910 --> 0:17:31.210 His emotions are not part of the training. 0:17:31.230 --> 0:17:32.230 We see that. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.220 He doesn't want to share his, this is not something 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.520 you would feel comfortable sharing with a stranger. 0:17:37.540 --> 0:17:38.940 In a job interview. 0:17:39.020 --> 0:17:44.399 And this is an alien. So we see him shooting apples. 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.560 You know, also mom has been like, like building a 0:17:50.380 --> 0:17:53.960 ham radio communication dish so she can talk real time 0:17:53.980 --> 0:17:59.440 with the guardian's. Jon Stewart comes with the idea. Now, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:00.860 does this change it at all? 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:01.960 No. 0:18:02.100 --> 0:18:03.120 Let me just put it. Let me just. 0:18:03.270 --> 0:18:03.770 He's fine. 0:18:03.790 --> 0:18:06.370 Let me just set it up. That's where I also land. 0:18:07.310 --> 0:18:08.830 At the age of five, he comes up with the 0:18:08.910 --> 0:18:12.989 idea of shoot the apples off my head like, you know, 0:18:13.030 --> 0:18:17.209 like William Tell. And mom is like, fuck yeah, let's go. 0:18:17.990 --> 0:18:21.090 As a parent, this is what you say. You say, no, 0:18:21.550 --> 0:18:23.859 never let this kid see a gun again. That's the 0:18:23.990 --> 0:18:24.859 one you say as a parent. 0:18:24.900 --> 0:18:26.899 Johnny then takes him and is like, are you afraid? 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.620 And he says, no, and he shoots the apple off. Now, 0:18:28.780 --> 0:18:31.590 I'll say this. This is a comic book origin story. 0:18:32.930 --> 0:18:33.310 And so. 0:18:34.290 --> 0:18:35.869 You have to get to ground it. 0:18:36.130 --> 0:18:38.100 No, you don't get to ground it in real life 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.520 and have the, it be like, he was raised this 0:18:41.580 --> 0:18:44.979 way on earth by parents who were literally shooting apples 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.560 off the top of his head. Not like literally suppressing 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.919 his one of being an artist. Great storyline there anyway, 0:18:52.010 --> 0:18:53.650 as anyone who's ever wanted to be an artist, but 0:18:53.850 --> 0:18:56.909 pushed into like a destiny, but also like, As we 0:18:56.950 --> 0:18:59.990 will see later, the abuse continues to an extreme degree, 0:19:00.030 --> 0:19:03.450 and he is being completely treated differently to the other 0:19:03.490 --> 0:19:07.190 members of his family. I think we're meant to see 0:19:07.210 --> 0:19:10.210 them as complicated figures, is what I'm saying. And I 0:19:10.230 --> 0:19:12.030 think they're complicated figures in John's head. 0:19:12.150 --> 0:19:14.490 I will just say that I think the word abuse 0:19:14.630 --> 0:19:18.370 in this context, though correct, lands incorrectly. 0:19:18.930 --> 0:19:19.150 Okay. 0:19:20.090 --> 0:19:20.970 I just don't agree. 0:19:21.050 --> 0:19:23.669 I think you can abuse your kid while training them 0:19:23.690 --> 0:19:26.449 for sports if you over-train them. I think that can 0:19:26.490 --> 0:19:29.050 become abusive. I think this is the same. I think 0:19:29.090 --> 0:19:31.449 they went too hard. If you're shooting an apple off 0:19:31.490 --> 0:19:33.850 a five-year-old's kid head, you could teach him other ways 0:19:33.890 --> 0:19:34.890 to not be scared. 0:19:35.230 --> 0:19:37.139 You could put him on a rooftop. You could hold him. 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.280 You could do safe things. 0:19:39.420 --> 0:19:42.200 There is a recklessness to the pursuit that I think 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:43.420 pushes it over the edge. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:44.960 And I think it has affected John. 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:46.900 I don't disagree with any of that. 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:47.800 Thank you. 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:51.920 I'm just saying that I think I think there will 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:56.840 be a reaction to... abuse in this context. And I 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.080 don't deny that it is. I'm just saying that it 0:19:59.119 --> 0:19:59.540 will land. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:00.699 Differently for some people. That's all good. I'm always here 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:01.500 to argue for a kid. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:01.780 I agree. 0:20:01.980 --> 0:20:03.480 I'm always here to argue for a kid. 0:20:03.500 --> 0:20:05.960 I think I agree with you in that, like, if 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.869 your five-year-old says, yes, shoot the apple off my head, 0:20:08.900 --> 0:20:11.090 of course you say no. What are we doing? But again, 0:20:11.570 --> 0:20:12.990 this is like the conversation in. 0:20:13.250 --> 0:20:14.710 There's a great character. I will say. 0:20:14.770 --> 0:20:17.170 Okay, great, great. This is like the conversation in Civil 0:20:17.210 --> 0:20:19.910 War where I'm like, listen, if this is real life, 0:20:20.050 --> 0:20:23.220 register all the superheroes immediately. Because this is a comic 0:20:23.260 --> 0:20:27.770 book and I trust... Tony Stark and the rest of them. 0:20:28.010 --> 0:20:29.810 And I, you know, I trust, excuse me. I trust 0:20:29.830 --> 0:20:34.590 Captain America more than the comic book government. Then of course, 0:20:34.670 --> 0:20:38.280 like don't register them. And so in that context, in 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:43.860 that context, do I trust the stewards? 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:45.500 Yes. 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.620 I trust they're doing their best. I trust they're doing 0:20:49.660 --> 0:20:51.560 their best in an insane situation. 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.139 I will also say put them in jail in the show. 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:59.140 This is not like the craziest thing I've ever seen. 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:00.260 No, no, definitely not. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.060 I would also say, again, great character moment to show 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.240