1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field. 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: player for Steve. Steve a blimp. We're not even in 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: the straded beer of normalcy. To get ready for a 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: jam Pack Thursday show here on lung FIL's Live. Chris Brown, 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and Clenty Moore to come by 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: way of our guest lineup today and we'll get to 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: that lineup shortly. A lot of news and notes coming 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: down from the NFL. We like to dive right into 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: those at the top of the show. Find it interesting 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: that the Aaron Rodgers saga Steve has taken another turn. 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: The Packers are now reportedly looking into adding other quarterbacks 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: to their roster, and that is because Jordan Love is 14 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: the only other quarterback on their roster besides Aaron Rodgers. Now. 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Typically teams do this around this time of year, especially 16 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: in advance of rookie Minicamp, because if you have veteran quarterbacks, 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: you can't bring them to rookie Minicamp to throw. I 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: don't know that that's the case here, because the word 19 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: is they're seeking veteran quarterbacks. They're out there floating around 20 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: without a job right now. And we know the texting 21 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers has done the last couple of days, 22 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: reportedly comparing Brian guten Coups to Jerry Kraus, the former 23 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls GM who was often made fun of right 24 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: in front of his face by Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen 25 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: and others who felt they were vastly underpaid for their services, 26 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: especially after they were successful, because he kept costs down 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: right wrong or indifferent. So yeah, I think that the 28 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: media at large, especially the national media, is looking for 29 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: any little breadcrumb they can cling to on this and 30 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: seeing Green Bay at least reaching out to veteran quarterbacks 31 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: who they might be interested in kicking the tires on, 32 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: it's a sign they think that maybe Rogers really won't 33 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: come back, you know that kind of thing. Yeah, And 34 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't know that we can jump to those conclusions yet. 35 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: And at the same time, Steve, if you're the Packers, 36 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: you have to at least prepare for the worst case 37 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: scenario in some way shape. Let's put it into perspective. 38 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: The Bills are working out. Zach Smith, former quarterback at 39 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Tulsa today the Tennessee Titans are working out former quarterback 40 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Brady White from Memphis today. You gotta have guys to throw. 41 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: So to say that that the Packers are out of 42 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the blue working quarterback, I mean, this is this is 43 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: why people inside the league, players coaches are like, just 44 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: like you stop, can we not just stopped? We're gonna 45 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: you got we got one quarterback and he can't throw 46 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: to anybody we have at our rookie minicamp. Yeah, what 47 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: do you think we're gonna do? So come on, and 48 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, getting veteran quarterbacks all that, I get it. 49 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna get the best guys you can. That's your job. 50 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: So if it's a veteran guy, fine, if it's a rookie, fine, 51 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: But they gotta have bodies to throw to. These guys 52 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: at their rookie minicamp. All the teams are doing it. 53 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: You got to fill your roster out. And it's called 54 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: a camp arm for a reason. Your quarterbacks can't make 55 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: that many throws to all these guys every time you 56 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: get together. So, yeah, the Aaron Rodgers things thing is real. 57 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: This is not. Yeah, speaking as Zach Smith just finished 58 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: up at Tulsa this past year. In twenty twenty. Spent 59 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: his first two years at Baylor, then sat out a 60 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: year under transfer rules, finished up at Tulsa and was 61 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: a part time starter you know, at Baylor before becoming 62 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: a full time starter at Tulsa. Apparently he had some 63 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: familiarity with the head coach down there for the Golden Hurricanes. 64 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: Started all twenty one games the last two seasons for them. 65 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: Said to have a quick release, adequate zip on the ball, 66 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: not a super mobile guy, and will fall victim to 67 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: holding the ball too long. That's the scouting report on 68 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: him anyway. So he'll probably be in here for Rookie 69 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: Minicamp next week on a tryout basis, and I'm sure 70 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: he won't be the only one, because you got to 71 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: have enough guys to practice and the vets aren't here. 72 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: And speaking of that, there was an NFL memo that 73 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: came down late yesterday. Tom Pella Sero from NFL Network 74 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: was reporting on a lot of this, but with the 75 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: Rookie Mini Caamps set to begin next week, the league 76 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: informed all teams last night that they should offer COVID 77 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: nineteen vaccines to all rookies in addition to encouraging clubs 78 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: to offer the vaccinations. They're also trying to have teams 79 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: highlight to all players that vaccinations may help players avoid 80 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: miss practices and games and therefore may have a competitive 81 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: impact for the club. So let's just call that passive negotiating. Well, 82 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're not saying you have to do this, 83 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: but it's highly recommended that you deliver the message that 84 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: getting vaccinated will help keep you available and on the 85 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: field at practices in games. And so if you were 86 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: against getting vaccinated, you may want to reconsider that decision. 87 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: We had Brandon Bean on the show yesterday and got 88 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: a little buzz about what he said, because what will 89 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: happen is it looks like the league is going to 90 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: put ratios on it. If you've got this many people 91 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: in your building that are vaccinated, you can go on 92 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: about your business without doing all the stuff that we 93 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: all had to go through for twelve or thirteen, fourteen months. 94 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: You don't have to test every day, you don't have 95 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: to wear a masks, you don't have to socially distance, 96 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: and it looks like by the time they roll things 97 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: into training camp and all that, it'll be business as 98 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: usual for the NFL. If you've got this much of 99 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: a percentage of the people in your building vaccinated. So 100 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: I asked Brandon Bean, what if you got one guy 101 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: on your team who puts you under that? So from 102 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: this point you got to go. Everybody's got to wear 103 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: a masks and socially distance. And you've got one guy 104 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: on your team that's not vaccine, or enough guys on 105 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: your team that aren't vaccinated that you're owned with the radio, 106 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: do you cut those guys and bring in a vaccinated player? 107 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: And he said yeah, And it's easy to see why. 108 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: You're not talking about Josh Allen or you know, Stephan 109 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: Diggs or somebody those like that, but you're talking about 110 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, Charlie Baggett. Don't like me, a guy like me. 111 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: You're saying, yeah, either get vaccinated or we're gonna cut 112 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: you and bring somebody in here. So nobody else has 113 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: to socially distance, wear a mask and sitting a walled 114 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: off cubicle. All that, And the main impetus for that 115 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: is he felt that the effectiveness of their player meetings 116 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: position meetings were compromised by the distancing by the location. 117 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: You got five different position groups sitting in the fieldhouse, 118 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: so they can properly distance, because it's the biggest room 119 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: they have on campus, and you're talking over one coach 120 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: over here is talking over another coach over there trying 121 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: to teach his guy's stuff, and it's very distracting and 122 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: it's lacking and its effectiveness. So they felt the process 123 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: that they like to subscribe to here and the way 124 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: they like to do business in preparing for games every 125 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: week was largely compromised because of that setting. So if 126 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: you can avoid that setting and go back to the 127 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: old way of doing things, which was highly effective in 128 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: helping guys prepare for games, you're gonna do whatever you 129 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: can to get back to that, right, And that's that's 130 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: really the impetus for the want to get it. For 131 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: what he said, it just makes your day goes smoother 132 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: and more stress free. It's just more efficient, to say 133 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: the least. Yeah, so if you want to do everything, 134 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: you can make sure your rosters put together in a 135 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: way that you can go business as usual rather than 136 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: during a worldwide pandemic. Yeah. However, the league also said 137 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: by May seventeenth, which is when veterans are supposed to 138 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: come to voluntary OTA's, all NFL clubs must transition back 139 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: to regular season COVID nineteen protocols, which means players, coaches, 140 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: Tier one, two, and three individuals that work for the 141 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: teams are prohibited from gathering outside of the club facility. 142 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: Other protocols set to start on May seventeenth. Maximum of 143 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: fifteen players in the weight room. No in person and 144 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: media interviews for players. No club organized social gatherings in 145 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: a maximum of five tryouts per week. Four teams. So 146 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: we remember last year when the Bills wanted to bring 147 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: somebody in. It wasn't fly the guy in. We'll work 148 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: him out, give him a physical if we like it, 149 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: and then we can agree we signed a contract. No, 150 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: there was. First of all, there was a five day 151 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: testing period where you had to make sure they were 152 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: COVID free. Then you brought him in, tried him out, 153 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: gave him a physical, and then if everything went well, 154 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: you signed him. And then that was relaxed as the 155 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: year went on. But you're back to five tryouts max 156 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: per week. So yeah, yeah, we're back to square one. 157 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: It takes forever for anything to get done. Back to 158 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: square one though, with the COVID protocol, Steve, I didn't 159 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: think we would go back there. I was hoping well, 160 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I didn't think. I said I was 161 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: hoping we would and go back there. I think it's 162 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: is there any ulterior motive that the clubs or the 163 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: league would have for going all that way backwards in 164 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: this in the environment as much as you know, much 165 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: as you don't have all the players vaccinated, or as 166 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: much as little as it chang, is there an ulterior motive, like, 167 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: for instance, something other than the football or the the 168 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, is there something between the league and the 169 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: union that the league is trying to send a message 170 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: to the union. So we're gonna make it really tough 171 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: on you guys. Well you know you're gonna have to 172 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: get that. You're gonna have to get tested every day, 173 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: and you have to go through this unless you get vaccinated. Well, 174 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: I do you know what I think is going to 175 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: happen ultimately? I think ultimately there are going to be 176 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: some teams that can get full buy in from their 177 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: players to get vaccinated, and they're going to be able 178 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: to go back to doing things the old way. It 179 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: will no longer be a level playing field, right because 180 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: the teams that get vaccinated, as we heard Brand and 181 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: Being say yesterday, will have relaxed modified COVID protocols. First, 182 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: first one is weekly testing. You're you're a vaccinated player 183 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: or employee, You're getting tested once a week, not every day. 184 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not getting swabbed up your nose seven 185 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: days a week. It's once a week. I mean, not 186 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: that it's a major inconvenience, but it's, like you said 187 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: it last year, it became a situation where it's like 188 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: brushing your teeth in the morning, right. But I think 189 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: more importantly, you got a fully vaccinated team and a 190 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: coaching staff and a training staff. You know you can 191 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: you can set up in a meeting room, you know, 192 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: separate your position groups so they can go off on 193 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: their own and get their own private space. You know, 194 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: you probably. I mean I don't want to speak for 195 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: the what the modified protocols are all going to be, 196 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: but I would tend to think you would get back 197 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: to more normal preparations in a game week and not 198 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: be as restricted. Yeah, And because of that, I think 199 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: you can make the argument anyway that a team like 200 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: that would be at a competitive advantage over a team 201 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: that is half vaccinated and has has to abide by 202 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: all the COVID protocols that we witnessed last year. Absolutely absolutely, 203 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if that will prompt teams to lean 204 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: on their players more. Going, Hey man, we're gonna be 205 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: lining up against this team in two weeks. They're fully vaccinated, 206 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: they're doing things the way we're used to doing them. 207 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: We still can't. We're at a disadvantage right now. Right 208 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: We got to fix that, and whether players buying or 209 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: not is going to be interesting the league, and the 210 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: league will alter. They'll it's a one blanket rule. If 211 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: you do this, then you can do that, and if 212 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: you don't do this, you cannot do that. They'll keep 213 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: it fair and it'll be up to the teams to 214 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: vaccinate or not vaccinate, or you abide by the protocols 215 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: or not or all of that stuff. Can you imagine, 216 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, worst case scenario, some team doesn't do that, 217 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: that decides not to vaccinate, they're gonna and then they 218 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: kind of blow off the protocols and then have an 219 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: outbreak just like we thought we were gonna have last year, 220 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: like we did in Week five with the Tennessee Titans. 221 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: That could happen again. And let me tell you, how 222 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: likely do you think it is that the league's gonna go, 223 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: Oh geez, that's too bad guy. You know what, here, 224 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: we'll try and bump your schedule around, moving around. Please 225 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: are gonna go. You better find a couple of ticket 226 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: vendors and maybe a couple of your equipment guys to 227 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: suit up. And we know last week before the draft, 228 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: the league put out another membo that said all clubs 229 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: should continue their efforts to educate about available vaccines. To 230 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: maximize vaccine acceptance among their staff, players, and family members, 231 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: each club should make the vaccine easily and conveniently available 232 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: through a vaccination day or another pro Graham and I 233 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: think to this, at least at the time that that 234 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: memo came out, fourteen clubs had already hosted on site 235 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: vaccination events. So yeah, a bunch of the stadiums returning 236 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: into vaccination sites, mass vaccinations. I know Arizona was one 237 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: of the first clubs to set it up. I think 238 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: they're up. They're almost at a million vaccination doses issued, 239 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's still it's amazing how it has 240 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: changed because at this point last year, and you know, 241 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: we had on yesterday, I can't remember who we had 242 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: on yesterday. Oh Brandon Bean, he said, remember last year 243 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: at this time, we didn't even know if we were 244 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: gonna play. Yeah, how far we are away from that. 245 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: If you can get through that last year, yeah, they're 246 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna make it happen. But you're dealing with the difference 247 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: here is you're dealing with play and coach personal preference 248 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: about themselves their health. Now, while that is a personal decision, 249 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: I think the rub here is you're part of something 250 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: bigger than yourself. When you're part of an NFL football team, 251 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: and it's no longer just how it impacts you. You're 252 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: working with. You come in contact with sixty, seventy, well 253 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: ninety other players this time of year. You're in twenty 254 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: something coaches and ten to fifteen to twenty support personnel 255 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. I don't really want to, you know, 256 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to want to get this all, you know, 257 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: up into the into the other end of the discussion. 258 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it comes down too as well. How 259 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: much pressure does your employer have? How much pressure can 260 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: your employer legally place upon you to make a personal decision. 261 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: I think that's why this is treacherous ground. It is 262 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: that the NFL is trying to navigate with out, you know, 263 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: without getting into a messy area with the Players Association. 264 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: I think they're trying to do this the right way 265 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: with the NFLPA. But we're we're eleven days away from 266 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: a seventeenth and right there is no clear and definitive 267 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: plan or agreement reached between the two parties on how 268 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: to best plot the course forward. And they may not 269 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: even know the percentages of what guys have gotten vaccinated 270 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: have not, you know, and certainly the staff and coaches 271 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: and all that is going to be a different ratio 272 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: than the players, or maybe it's going to be the 273 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: exact same as the players. There maybe coaches and staff 274 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: members of each team who don't want to get vaccinated 275 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: or have not gotten vaccinated. All of that's on the table, 276 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: and you kind of got to you just gotta do 277 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: a census basically about, Okay, what are we looking at it? 278 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Is this going to be an issue at all? Or 279 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: is it is it going to be something that every 280 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: team's gonna have to deal with, or is it going 281 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: to be something that like there's a handful of teams 282 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: that have to deal with or half of them or whatever. 283 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: There's no way they're gonna get a blanket policy that's 284 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: gonna make everything okay. And there are going to be 285 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: some players or coaches who probably will not be able 286 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: to do their job in its full capacity if they 287 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: don't get vaccinated, because the league's already set like, you 288 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: don't get vaccinated, you won't be able to be like 289 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: a Tier one or a Tier two. That's a hard 290 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: way too, So that's a hard decision to make well. 291 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: And yes, I'm not saying it's an easy decision. What 292 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: I am saying is the NFL is a freight train. 293 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: It's not waiting for you. It's gonna go forward. You 294 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: saw it last year they in the pandemic. They got 295 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: a steamroll to season last year in an environment where 296 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: nobody else on the planet could do it, so no 297 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: other league could do it. There are gonna be people 298 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: that probably across the league that make the decision not 299 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 1: to get back, and they're gonna get left behind because 300 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: the league is going to move forward. What they are 301 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: never stagnant, and that's full speed ahead. That's the question 302 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: we're asking today too, is what's that gonna look like? 303 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: You know, what is that gonna look like? On the field, 304 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: off the field, what's it gonna do to fan interest 305 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: about your team or the patients that a fan base has. 306 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: For fifteen guys that aren't refused to get vaccinated on 307 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: your team and now they're they're spending their entire day 308 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: working around the protocols rather than in meetings and watching 309 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: film like the other teams are doing. That's getting to 310 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: this level. Coaching at this level, playing at this level 311 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: is hard enough, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 312 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: you're to throw some roadblocks in front of yourself. You're 313 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: not playing in a vacuum to you're not playing or 314 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: coaching in a vacuum. There's there's some quality people everywhere 315 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: on every team that are coaching against you and playing 316 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: against you that are at the highest level. And when 317 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: you give them all kinds of advantages like the ones 318 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about, with with or without COVID protocols in 319 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: your locker room, that dictates how your game and season 320 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: is gonna go. Because if you have, if you feel 321 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: like you're playing out of that hole, like you're the 322 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: only team that's gonna have to do that, forget it. 323 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot get you cannot feel like you've 324 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: got a chance when everybody else is that far ahead 325 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: of you in their preparation. Every week we have a 326 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: jam packed show for you today. Coming up at one twenty, 327 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: Armando Salguero has covered the Dolphins for god knows how 328 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: many years now. It's got to be coming up on 329 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: over thirty years, still writing for the Miami Herald and 330 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: doing some other stuff. So well, we'll catch up with 331 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: Armando to get the lowdown on the Dolphins, what they 332 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: think of their draft class and how they think that 333 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: will benefit and help to his progression in his second 334 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: year as the starting quarterback for the Bill's division rival. Then, 335 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: coming up at two o'clock, it's Bill's second round draft choice, 336 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: Boogie Bashing. I'm going to talk to Boogie about well, 337 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: how his first week as a Buffalo Bill has felt. 338 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: He did get up here and check things out at 339 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive after he was drafted over the weekend 340 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: last week, So he'll be right back here next week 341 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: when rookie Minicamp starts, We're gonna check in with Boogie. 342 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: And then final half hour of the show, our colleague 343 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: Maddie glab will join us. As we know, she had 344 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: been hard at work tracking all of the mock drafts 345 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: under the sun basically since January, I think late January, 346 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: and she's gonna give us the results of who got 347 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: it right. It's pretty interesting. Yeah, I mean we had 348 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: Charles Davis on. He got eleven or twelve including the 349 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: Bills picked, so I know he's on the list, so 350 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: he'll be one of them. Yeah, and I think a 351 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: couple of our other show guests got it right as well, 352 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: a lot of them, and a lot of what she 353 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: put together also has which players, which guys the right 354 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: guys to go to the Bills, not only at thirty 355 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: but also at sixty one. Yeah, a lot of fun 356 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: breaking that down. Because it's an entire season in the 357 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: football calendar we all take part in that becomes obsolete overnight. 358 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: And these guys like Maddie, all these guys, Pro Football, Focus, 359 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: every entity, ESPN, CBS, Fox, they all put out dozens 360 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: of these mock drafts and they all be useless. Well overnight. 361 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: That's the thing that gets me. These guys put in 362 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: all that film work to put those together and then 363 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: it's over and they're wrong. Yeah, all of them. That's 364 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: why I found Charles Davis's approach pretty interesting. So you know, 365 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: some of these guys are doing trades and everything. He's like, 366 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: as a rule, I don't do trades because at least 367 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: if I leave and I agree with them, at least 368 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: if you leave the picks the way they are, you 369 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: know there's a chance that team's picking in that spot, 370 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you start moving around, 371 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: you don't know if they're gonna move right the Yeah, 372 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: everything's a guess, but you're guessing about a guess, you know. 373 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: It's like it's like was that movie inception? It's a 374 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: dream inside a dream inside a dream. Right, That's what this. 375 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: That's what a lot of these mock drafts go to, 376 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean, seven round month. And then the best ones, though, 377 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: are when these editors ask these guys, all right, the 378 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one drafts over, let's do a mock draft 379 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two right now? Right like ESPN as 380 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: poor Todd McShay, do they even call it a way 381 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: too early mock draft for twenty twenty two. You don't 382 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: even know what anybody's picking yet. And then like you're 383 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: just guessing who's gonna be the worst team in football, 384 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: and who's gonna be there at the end. And then 385 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: there's the mock draft that are like this, and you 386 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: always do the mock drafts just what you think is 387 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: going to happen. Then they also do mock drafts where 388 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: they think this is what should happen. Yeah, and you think, well, 389 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: it's the same. It's not the same thing. Picking. The 390 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: person picking making picks, guessing about what they are going 391 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: to do as opposed to what you think they should 392 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: do is completely different, and that difference spawns another cottage 393 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: industry that is the same but different. Yeah, it's and 394 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: it's all it's all obsolete in in a forty eight 395 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: hour period, twenty four hour period. Yeah. I mean it's 396 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: like Christmas. There's all this anticipation and then it's over. 397 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: It's like, oh and you're into Hey, you ended up 398 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: playing with the rappers. Yeah, and you got to go 399 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: back to work in two days. But not on Christmas 400 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: vacations or school, you know. Uh, So we wanted to Matt. 401 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: He's going to come in and do that. Yeah, so 402 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: she'll tally it all up for us and and let 403 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: us know who who got it right and what the 404 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: position group breakdowns were in terms of how many were 405 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: mocked at this position, that position, and stuff. So we'll 406 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: dice it all up with her final half hour of 407 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: the show twinter poll today on the heels of the draft, 408 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: we wanted to get into more of the division talk 409 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: because we know that two of the four teams in 410 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: this division have new quarterbacks that were taken in the 411 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: top fifteen picks, among a slew of other editions, not 412 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: only in the draft, but in free agency. And so 413 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: now that I would say ninety to ninety five percent 414 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: of the roster moves have been executed by the teams 415 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: in this division and across the league for that matter. 416 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: In what order will the AFC East finish in twenty 417 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: twenty one and tell us why? So put your division 418 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: standings together for the AFC East for this season and 419 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: tell us why they are going to finish in that order. 420 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: And you can send that order to us at one 421 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: bills live on the tweet sheet, or you can give 422 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: us a call eight oh three oh five fifty one 423 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty open line for 424 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: you there, and we will have open phones all the 425 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: way up till about one fifteen. So get on board 426 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: if you want to join us and have a conversation 427 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: about how the AFC East will stack up when the 428 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: twenty one regular season comes to an end. Let's go 429 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: to the phones and leading us off today north of 430 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: the boarder, we go to Lewis and Hamilton. Lewis, what 431 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: do you got for us? You're on one Bills Live. Hey, guys, 432 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: you guys are doing a great job. I love to 433 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: listen to you guys at noon. This question, I'd like 434 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: to refer it to Steve Tasker if you don't mind. Yeah, 435 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: And I don't want your opinion too as well, because 436 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: it's very important to me. Steve. I like to know something. 437 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: You played football for the Buffo Bills. You are a 438 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: great You're a great special team or a great receiver, 439 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: and you own right. And I like the fact that 440 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: when we drafted Russo, Bruce Smith wanted to contact him 441 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: and reach out to him and say, look, we like 442 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: your pick. I like you as a player. I want 443 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: to I want to make you even into a better player. 444 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: My question to you, Steve is being a former player, 445 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: and I'd like to hear your response on the phone 446 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: if I may. What do you think Bruce Smith can 447 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: give to Russe and and far as teaching and making 448 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: him a better player. Well, I think there's a lot 449 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: it could be. It could be a wide raid spectrum 450 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: of things that Bruce noon. You know, nobody got more 451 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: sacks in the league than Bruce. He got two hundred sacks, 452 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: and he played for a long long time, and he 453 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: did it both with great physical ability and great technique 454 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: as well as well as evolving during the time. And 455 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: he played as a rookie till the time he played 456 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: as a twenty year veteran. Everything in between that is 457 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: at his disposal, and he would be perfectly willing to 458 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: share that. But a lot of what a player like 459 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: Bruce could hand to a guy like Greg Russeau begins 460 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: with a mindset and maybe something as simple as a 461 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: schedule or a list of priorities. And for a guy 462 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: like Greg Russeau, who comes in with a lot of 463 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: physical gifts and a huge upside, Bruce may begin by saying, listen, 464 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: First of all, find your perfect playing weight. Bruce came 465 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: in as a three hundred and fifteen pound rookie who 466 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: got thirteen and a half sacks, and I watched him 467 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: six or seven years into his pro career, not that far. Well, yeah, 468 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: five or six years into his pro career. I watched 469 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: Bruce step onto the onto the scale in a parish 470 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: shorts and nothing else, and he was two fifty nine. 471 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: That kind of commitment to changing and transforming his body, 472 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: even when he's been successful as a as a fat guy, 473 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: to come in transform his body and turn into the 474 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: defensive player of the year, that's pretty courageous for a 475 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: guy and pretty committed for a guy like that. That 476 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: kind of mindset something he could transfer to Greg Russou, 477 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: as well as telling him, like how he used his 478 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: practice time in the offseason, what he thought about, how 479 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: he watched film, all of that stuff Greg Russou could 480 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: ask Bruce about and Bruce would be perfectly willing to 481 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: tell him. Bruce's gifts are different than Greg Russo's gifts, 482 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: but the mindset and the ability to evaluate yourself and 483 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: get a sense of yourself and where you're good and 484 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: where you're bad, and going forward, how you work on 485 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: what you're not good at, and what you do about 486 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: your strength to get them stronger. All of that mindset 487 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: and the techniques and the time spent on all of 488 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: it is something Greg Rousseau would benefit from. I could 489 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: hear Bruce telling him because he used to always say this, 490 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: because I heard him talk to Marcella's Wiley about this out. 491 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: Hear him talk to a bunch of guys, don't let 492 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: them get your hand their hands on you. I mean 493 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: that's yeah. He had a he had like a rake 494 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: move where he would just the guy, you know, the tackle, 495 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: would shoot his hands and he'd chop them away as 496 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: he's running by the hand, the two hands chopped down. 497 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: I saw him. I too if if an offensive lineman 498 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: got his hands on Bruce, his hands were hitting Bruce 499 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: right where Bruce wanted him so that he could use 500 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: the leverage to spin out of it, do a rip 501 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: and spen move. Um. So it was all about. You know, 502 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: hand fighting is big in the NFL for those who 503 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: don't watch. Even for a guy like me who I 504 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: was covering, kicks you because the guys do so much 505 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: lifting and stuff and you work out so much. Most 506 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: of those guys got grips like vices. If they get 507 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: a handful of your jersey, if if they want to, 508 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna hang on. In fact, even if they're you're 509 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: getting if they're you swing them around like a bulldog 510 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: grabbing a rope. You know, they're not letting go with 511 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: that hand. They can hold their own body weight with 512 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: their own grip, so they're not letting go. You can't 513 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: get them off. That's how strong these guys are. They'll 514 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: hold their own body weight with that one handful of jersey. 515 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: So that's you can't let them do that. So it's 516 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: a big thing how you use your hands in the 517 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: pros and for guys like Bruce and Greg Russou and 518 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: these guys, I mean those, I mean they're they're so 519 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: close to these guys. You know, you gotta have a 520 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: plan every single time. So that's the Yeah, all of 521 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: that hand place, grip strength, all the rules that you 522 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: hear about. Bruce is a PhD. Yeah, I mean, thirty 523 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: five inch arms will help Greg Russo. Chances are he's 524 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: gonna make contact of them. Can't get your hands on 525 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: something you can't reach. Chances are he's making contact with 526 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: that guy before that guy's making contact with him. Patrick 527 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: and Stafford, hang tight. We have to take a break here, 528 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: but we'll get to you first on the other side. 529 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: In what order will the AFC East finish in twenty 530 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: twenty one and why we've seen what draft classes have 531 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: come down the pike for each of the four teams 532 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: in the division. They've all been doing some certain things 533 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: in free agency to add to their rosters. Now, how 534 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: do you think the division will finish? Eight O three 535 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: oh five fifty To get on board with us or 536 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live, We're back 537 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: in a moment, Steve and I carrying you through a 538 00:30:51,640 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: Thursday here on one Bills Live. Welcome back to One 539 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you got Boogie 540 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: Basham coming up in the third hour of the show. 541 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: Be sure to stay tuned for that. Joining us in 542 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: about an hour and forty minutes. And uh, we're asking 543 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: you in what order will the AFC East finish in 544 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one? And tell us why these teams have 545 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: largely made the vast bulk of their roster changes and 546 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 1: perceived improvements going into the twenty twenty one season. Your 547 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: chance to get down the way too early? Mock draft, playoff, 548 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: mock standing, mock standings here with the AFC East. Why not? 549 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean exactly when you think about it, not, I 550 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: mean the rosters are not the rosters. I'm not saying 551 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: they're saying, we don't need to know about the roster. 552 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: To a large degree, we got the draft, we got 553 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: free agency. To a large degree, these rosters are are 554 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: going to have the majority of the people they currently 555 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: have right now. And so yeah, let's make some assessments. 556 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: Let's see what we think about anybody pushing the bills 557 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: for the division title, pture of the room, who's going 558 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: to sit right behind them, who's gonna be nipping at 559 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: their heels the most, and who's going to be sitting 560 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: in the basement when the twenty twenty one regular season 561 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: is over. So we go to the phones at eight 562 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty, open line for you there, 563 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty, and we 564 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: lead off with Patrick and Stafford. Patrick, what do you 565 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one bills live. Well, I 566 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: just want to start out with first saying I think 567 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: that Steve should have a yellow jacket and a bust 568 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: in Ohio. Okay, he enjoyed watching him played during his heyday, 569 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: and I'm going to refer back to that day. Do 570 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: we need to run him back like Thurman to really 571 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: make this offense click? And am I putting too much 572 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: emphasis on him and not enough on the offensive line. 573 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of credit goes 574 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 1: both ways, but god, that just opened up so much 575 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: for everything else, and it is was Thurman just that 576 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: much of a rare talent that we don't see any 577 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: running backs quite like that today. That really covered every 578 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: gamut of deposition, you know, blocking, running well the ball. 579 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: To think about it, Patrick, i mean, Thurman led the 580 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: league in yards from scrimmage for four straight years, is 581 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: the first time it was ever done in the history 582 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: of the league. So he gotta give Thurm a little 583 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: credit for that, but also the guys up front and 584 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: the team that he was on, and it was a 585 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: different offense and they're running this year. It was a 586 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: different league than that now than it was then as well. 587 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: But yes, and there's no question if you had a 588 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: back like Thurman, Yeah, it's a yeah, it would change 589 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: the way you thought about it. I'm not saying they 590 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: would start running the ball fifty or forty percent or 591 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, fifty percent of the time and giving him 592 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: the ball forty percent of the time or whatever, but 593 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: a great players make a difference, and a player like Thurman, 594 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: of course would tilt the balance of the offense. You'd 595 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: give him more opportunities. And when you give a guy 596 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: like Thurman more opportunities like that, you take him away 597 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: from Steph Diggs and John Brown and Cole Beasley and 598 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis and Dawson Knox. So the rest of your 599 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: weapons got to know. That's yes, Thurman is was a 600 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: singular talent, a Hall of Fame talent who made an 601 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: enormous difference on an extremely good team. But but the 602 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: offensive line was dominant for stretches of his career as well. Yes, 603 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: we just seem some one dimensional at times. Well, I 604 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: mean they did add Matt bred in free agency, and 605 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: he is a home run hitter. I mean the guy 606 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: runs a four to three six. So you want a 607 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: speed element in your backfield, you have it now. I 608 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: know a lot of a lot of fans were interested 609 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: in seeing more of Antonio Williams. He's still on the roster. 610 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that should be forgotten, although he's probably 611 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: similar to Zach Moss and Devin Singletary more than Matt Breeda. 612 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: But we'll see what shakes out of the trees here. 613 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: There'll be other people in camp. I'm not afraid of 614 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: being dimensional. Patrick, I know what you mean you mean, 615 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: because here's what happens when you get in this game. 616 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: And like the old San Diego Chargers or whatever team 617 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: you want to name, that was a big, high flying, 618 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: throw it all the time offense, like the old Houston 619 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: Orders when they were doing the run and shoot, the 620 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills throw the ball a ton last year by design. 621 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: They were good at it. They were scoring a lot 622 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: of points doing it. And what happens is this, though, 623 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: at certain points of every game, if you're scoring a 624 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: lot of points, there are certain times in games, a 625 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of times when you're trying to put the game away, 626 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: you want to run the ball, let the clock run 627 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: and not and just not give the other team the 628 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: ball anymore. That happened to the Bills a number of times. 629 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: And then for a team like Buffalo, when you're running game, 630 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: it hasn't been used. And it's, for lack of a 631 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: better word, at atrophies because you don't exercise it enough. 632 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: You got Ruben Browning here, we have him on the 633 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: and he says, if you want to run the ball better, 634 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: you gotta hand it off more. You gotta give the 635 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: offensive line a chance to get a rhythm, to start 636 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: to feel each other, start to get an idea of 637 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: how they can move guys up front. If you never 638 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: run the ball enough in these games like the Bills 639 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: did not last year, you never get to that as 640 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,479 Speaker 1: an offensive line. Therefore, in games like that, you don't 641 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: have the juice to put it away with the running game. 642 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: That doesn't scare me at all, because what it comes 643 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: down to is this. If you're throwing the football all 644 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: the time and you get to a point where you 645 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: got to put the game away, all it comes down 646 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: to is this, you just have to convert on third 647 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: down with the passing game, and then you can just 648 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: you get another set of downs, you continue to run 649 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: the ball and then convert another third down. That's all 650 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: it is, and this team was very good at doing that. John. 651 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: They just convert Cole Beasley bang, put the game away. 652 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: Third down. We need a first down to put the 653 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: game away, boom, and then now we're kneeling down for 654 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: the last two minutes of the game. That's what it 655 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: comes down to, and this team was able to do 656 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: that last year. So I'm not afraid of this being 657 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: a one dimensional team because the only time. In that case, 658 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: when we're talking about a one dimensional pass only team, 659 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: it comes down to being able to put games away 660 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: late because you throw the football and you're scoring a 661 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: lot of points and you don't want that team to 662 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: get the ball one more time and maybe have an 663 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: on side kick or even you know, take the lead 664 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: or whatever. So I'm not afraid of that because this 665 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: team is able to convert on third down because of 666 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: their quarterback can run number one in the league, and 667 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: they can throw the football to four different guys and 668 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: just get past the sticks. That's what you're talking about, 669 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's why I'm not afraid of this 670 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: team throwing the ball sixty plus percent of the time. 671 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: But I understand your point because that's the way it's 672 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: always kind of Ben and CEC teams trying to do that. 673 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: The Bills did very well at that last year, and 674 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't change much. So yeah, I'm not up for 675 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: forcing the run game at just in order in certain 676 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: aspects of certain games. You'll have that there. Let's go 677 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: to Charles and Buffalo X. Charles here on one Bills Live. 678 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: What do you have for us? How are you doing good? 679 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: I've got a comment mister Tafica at the end. But 680 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: the older I say is it's gonna be first, followed 681 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: up by Miami New England and the Jets, mainly because 682 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: of our head office and our coaching staff. They seem 683 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: they're starting to build a dynasty in Buffalo. And that's 684 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: the way I look at it. And Charles, why do 685 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: you why do you have Miami ahead of New England? There? 686 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: You have a reason for that, Yeah, because of the staff, 687 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be trying to followed Bumpo's 688 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 1: weed as far as head office in coaching goes both there. 689 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: All right, that's fair enough. And my comment is from 690 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: mister Tafficer. You might have been number eighty nine in 691 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: the in the playbook, but you'll always be number one 692 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: in the arts. And I've always considered you the comic 693 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: coazy kid because the way you attacked on special teams 694 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: and being uh, well, thanks, Charles, that's nice of you 695 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: to say, I'm kama Kazi kid. How about that? Oh God, 696 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: what's that's all I have to say? You're coming? Thanks? Thanks, 697 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Yeah, So he goes Buffalo and 698 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: Miami New England Jets. It's interesting too, and I'm and 699 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: it's it's quite a compliment to the Bills because he 700 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: says the reason Miami's ahead of New England because they're 701 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: more like Buffalo in their front office and the way 702 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: they do things. They're they're further along in their build 703 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: than New England. I think I don't know if New 704 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: England would consider themselves completely rebuilding, but yeah, but think 705 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: about that. I think the big New England like always 706 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: has a lot of questions coming into a season. They 707 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: tend to do that even though they're coming you think 708 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: could be coming off a Super Bowl and we've seen 709 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: well what about this and this and this? They got 710 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: a ton of opt outs coming off the COVID list. 711 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: Their defense is going to be significantly better. That's going 712 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: to take a lot of pressure off their offense to 713 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: score a lot of points and stay on the field 714 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: and do all the things they had to do last year. 715 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: I think they've got to handle more so on what 716 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: they will be this year than they did coming into 717 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: this point last year. And they added two pretty important 718 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: defensive pieces in rookies Christian Barmore and Ronnie Perkins. You know, 719 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: an edge guy in a three to four who can 720 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: get to the passer and Perkins and Barmore. You know, 721 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: say what you will about him, but I think that 722 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is going to get as accurate a report 723 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: on Christian Barmore and how coachable he is from one 724 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: of his best friends in the game in Nick Saban 725 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: down in Alabama. He's gonna get an honest report of 726 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: what that guy can be and how hard he can 727 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: be coached. And so he's putting his faith in Saban 728 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: that guy is coachable, because there were reports out there 729 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: that he wasn't. But those could be two critical pieces 730 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: for their at least Nick Saman will tell him if 731 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: you push this button right here, it works best kind 732 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: of thing, right. I mean, that's whether you know whether 733 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: he's gonna work hard or not. You can get him 734 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: to work hard if this and this or in place, 735 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: and you can do it. But I agree with you. 736 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: And plus you know they're gonna get Kyle van Noy back, 737 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: who was in the Dolphins last year. That tower comes 738 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: back from max They maximize you know Van noy like 739 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: and if those are you know Van Noise, the guy 740 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: that Josh Allen trucked in that Miami game where they 741 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: blew the early whistle, and he's a good player. Despite 742 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: what I just said, he's a really good player. And 743 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna play better for New England than he 744 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: did from Miami last year. So yeah, I think New 745 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 1: England's got a chance to bounce back in a big 746 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: way after a down year. And I think the big 747 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: question mark is how long Cam plays and how well 748 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 1: break time for us. But Tom on the West Side, 749 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: Rick and Atlanta will get to you guys next when 750 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: we return, as we're asking you how will the afcast 751 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: standing shake out in twenty twenty one now that we're 752 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: done with the draft, and give us an idea as 753 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: to why you feel the order will be what you 754 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: think it will be. We're back in a second here 755 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health. It's 756 00:41:48,040 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, going right back to the 757 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: phones here as we're asking what order will the a 758 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: FC East finish in twenty twenty one and why? And 759 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: we lead off with Tom on the West Side, Tom 760 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: when he got for us, you know, One Bills Live, 761 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: a Brownie and Steve, how do I want to say? 762 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm an eternal optimist and I believe the Bills are 763 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: gonna finish two games above everybody else. Okay, I think 764 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: New England and Miami might be neck and neck. But 765 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: New England scares me a little bit because he got 766 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: Billichick and he's getting all his players back off the 767 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: COVID list last year, last year. Yeah, so you have 768 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: them edging out Miami or not for second place. Yeah, 769 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: I think I think New England and Miami are gonna 770 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: be a game away. We're gonna win by two. Miami 771 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: and New England are gonna be a game apart. And 772 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: the Jets they're they're still gonna be at the bottom 773 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: sale what scares me. But he's got a rookie quarterback, 774 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: so I'm really not too worried about him. Yeah, they 775 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: didn't load up on defense in the draft until the 776 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: end Day three, Like, they made sure they were getting 777 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 1: protection and weapons around Wilson on offense. And Steve was 778 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 1: talking about this, you know, last week during the draft 779 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: week Tom he was basically saying that a lot of 780 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: these teams are focusing on building around the quarterbacks because 781 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: they believe offense is what's going to win you the 782 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: football games more than defense keeping you in it. Right, 783 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: So now, they got to get the players just around 784 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and I don't believe the Jets have that 785 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 1: right now. Well, the Jets are gonna have a much 786 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: better offensive line than they had a year ago, which 787 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: which kind of gave them some problems. They've got Vera 788 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: Tucker inside, and they've got McKay Beckton, and they'll be 789 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: able to cobble together the right side in the center 790 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: position to you know, to keep it together over there. 791 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: So they'll be better up front of Zach Wilson. But 792 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: I'm like you there their defense, it's gonna be hard 793 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterbacks, even if he plays well, to 794 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: keep up with teams that are working against his defense. 795 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: At least this way, it looks like on paper, Sala 796 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: will give them some edge and they'll be able to 797 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: skim some scheme some things up at a top you know, 798 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: in a top level way, but they still won't have 799 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: the horses to get it done unlike some other teams will. 800 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of with you. The Jets, while they 801 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: may be improved, may win fewer games or as many 802 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: games as they did last year. Although it's interesting to me, 803 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: and we haven't talked too many people about it, and 804 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: nobody's brought it up. It's gonna be interesting to see 805 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: the seventeen game schedule on what it looks like when 806 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: it's all said and done, and how big of and 807 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: how deep into the season these division races really go 808 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: with a season a little bit longer. Like that, we 809 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: go back to the phones and to Rick in Atlanta. Rick, 810 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: what do you have for us here on One Bill's Live. Hey, guys, 811 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: good afternoon. I just got a quick comments and maybe 812 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, you're a genius at numbers, maybe you can 813 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: back up live on the radio. You look at the stats. 814 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if all my high school math teachers 815 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: would agree with you, but we'll give it a shot. 816 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: What do you got? Okay? All year, I've been hearing 817 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: from you guys that uh et N and the other 818 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 1: and the other kids from Alabama they are no Elvin Camaro, 819 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: they are nod thurmon Thomas. But I looked at the 820 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: stats and it's actually flip flopper because et N destroys 821 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: both those guys on college stats, and the proper comparison 822 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: should be college stats versus college stats, not you know, 823 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: not NFL stats versus college stats, and eat N he 824 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: destroys thurmon Thomas, and he destroys Elvin Camara, and I 825 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: like to hear your input on that. I'm sat, I'll 826 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: tell you this, and I'm sorry, I'm gonna jump in. 827 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 1: One of the knocks on at N was that he 828 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: couldn't catch his own head with two hands before his 829 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: senior year. Now he did show something in the fact 830 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: that he actually obviously worked on his receiving skills and 831 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: got into his senior year and caught the ball a 832 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: lot better. But it was and I've too fon him 833 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: his first couple of years. Upside is up there. His upside. 834 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: It proved that he's trying to improve like our defensive end. 835 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: You know, he got right. So now, the reason why 836 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 1: the fans wanted Etn because his stats speak for themselves. 837 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: His stats were better to Elva camaras, were better than 838 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 1: Thermon Thomas. That's what we fans. We wanted the guy, 839 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: right and I and I understand all that, Rick and 840 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: I respect it. And you know, you think the guy 841 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: is going to translate to this level. That's great and 842 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: he may very well be a very good back. I 843 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: also remember the guy that that coach Travis Etn when 844 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: he came to Buffalo, his name was C. J. Spiller, 845 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: and he had twenty one plays of over fifty yards. 846 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: In his college career, he had over sixty plays of 847 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: twenty yards or more, and people thought he was going 848 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: to be the best thing since sliced bread. Now did 849 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: he come into the best of situations? Not necessarily. And 850 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: Etn isn't going to be running behind the best offensive 851 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: line in Jacksonville either. You could argue he ran behind 852 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: a better offensive line at Clemson and he's going to 853 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: run behind in Jacksonville. So circumstance has something to do 854 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: with it too. But I remember Josh Reid, the Bill's 855 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: second round pick in two thousand and three or two 856 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: thousand and two. He averaged one hundred and forty five 857 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: yards receiving a game at LSU. Never translated here. So 858 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: just because you have six and I agree with you, Rick, 859 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: from your standpoint of comparing, you want to compare guys 860 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: at the college level and compare their college stats. I 861 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: agree that's probably more accurate and more relative. And again 862 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: I'll reiterate, I'm not saying that Travis Etn is not 863 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 1: going to be successful at the NFL level. It probably 864 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: has a very good chance of being successful. It doesn't 865 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: always translate, though, and that's the thing. And I think 866 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 1: you can also take a look at the college situations 867 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: that each of those players were in. Kamara, Thurman and 868 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: even Etn. ETN was surrounded by NFL Draft eligible players 869 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 1: at just about every position on the field. I mean, 870 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 1: they're one of the top two recruiting programs in the 871 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,479 Speaker 1: country them in Alabama, I mean, they get more five 872 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,720 Speaker 1: stars than just about every other school in the country, 873 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: with the exception of the Crimson Tide. I don't know 874 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: if you could have said that about Oklahoma State in 875 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: the mid eighties. They had really good players, particularly at 876 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: running back, Thurman Thomas and Barry Sanders, and there were 877 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: other good players on that roster. And you know, the 878 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: conference they played in was very competitive. And then you 879 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: know for Camara at Tennessee, they weren't what they used 880 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: to be in the SEC, going back to you know, 881 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning days and the late nineties. But you know, 882 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 1: you can you can spin the numbers any way you want. 883 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: The biggest impact on Travis etn success at the NFL 884 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: level is going to come down to a couple of things. 885 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: The situation in which he's dropped into okay, and how 886 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: effective the passing game is for his respective offense. Because 887 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 1: if he's got a good passing game with his college 888 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: teammate Trevor Lawrence at the helm and they can move 889 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: the football throwing the ball through the air, he's going 890 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: to see an awful lot of seven man boxes and 891 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: that's to his advantage. Alvin Camara too, you think about it, 892 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: you try and extrapolate what they did. He started out 893 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: at Alabama, right, transferred to hutch j I say hutch 894 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: Junior College. It's Hutchinson Can. I played in this conference. 895 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: I know I played against hutch Community College UM and 896 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: in the Jayhawk JUCO Conference. I played against a lot 897 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: of NFL players in that conference. He had to get 898 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: out of Alabama go to hutch Juco. Then he went 899 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: to Tennessee for two years. Hard to extrapolate that towards 900 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: a guy who has been and I don't know what, 901 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know that atn has been was hit 902 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: out right, So it's a little different atmosphere when a 903 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: guy's jumping around like that. Plus it says something about 904 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: the guy good or bad. But Alvin Kamara is better 905 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: in the pros than he was in college. Right, so's 906 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas, those Barry Sanders, although even Barry, I mean 907 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: won the Heisman. So uh, it's hard to extrapolate what 908 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: the guy's gonna look like when he gets into a 909 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: pro system. I said this before or leading up to 910 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: the draft, and it's true even here. Some guys thrive 911 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: as a pro more so than they did as a 912 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: college player, and some guys it's the reverse. We can 913 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: sit here and compare guys all day long, but they're 914 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: never going to be the same guy. If they were 915 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 1: the same guy in college, that is not a guarantee 916 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 1: they're going to be the same guy in the pros. 917 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 1: And two guys could look very different in college and 918 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: turn out to be very identical as pros. So I 919 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: get the comparisons, but we're still talking about stuff that 920 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: is there's about a million variables, and these guys are 921 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: all going to be their own player. And the question is, 922 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: and I get it. Travis Atn was the shiny object 923 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: on the shelf that everybody thought was going to transform 924 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's offense. And I, okay, you can believe 925 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: that if you want, I'm telling you right, now Bill's 926 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: offense doesn't need transforming. You can polish it a little more, 927 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna put anybody in there that's going 928 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: to transform this offense. Break time for us when we 929 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: come back, more of your phone calls, and we'll have 930 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: Armando Saligero for the Miami Herald coming up in about 931 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,399 Speaker 1: twenty minutes as we break down how we think this 932 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: division is going to shake out in the standings come 933 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 1: the end of the twenty twenty one regular season. Your 934 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: phone calls continue at eight oh three oh five fifty, 935 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: as well as your comments on the tweet sheet coming 936 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: up next at a Steve Taster who has been all 937 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: over the fields kind of unique. He was kind of 938 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: a dual role player for you. State of Steve a blimp. 939 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 1: We're not even in the stragedyre of normalcy, and we're 940 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: still not back to normal as far as NFL offseason 941 00:51:53,600 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: programs go, either normal open those the NFL. The NFL 942 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,240 Speaker 1: Communications Department has just put out the workout program dates 943 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 1: for the offseason, and Phase two, which is May seventeenth 944 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: to the twenty first, has been shortened. Phase two has 945 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: been shortened from three weeks to one week on field 946 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: workouts may include individual player instruction and drills. It looks 947 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: like plays will have to be conducted only offensive players 948 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: can line up against offensive players, and defensive players against 949 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: defensive players. So the conventional eleven on eleven or seven 950 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: on seven or nine on seven. If you want to 951 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: run defensive plays, you're gonna have to use your backup 952 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: defensive players to line up as offensive players. You laugh 953 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: at me. You don't just cross my mind? What are 954 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 1: they going to do when they start playing? Justin Zimmer 955 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: on offense, he can't go defense on you know he'll 956 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: be there in May. What am my guys? What's my 957 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: guy gonna do? He's go to be able to practice. 958 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: He can't go against the offensive guys because he's a 959 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: defensive lineman and they can't move him to the offensive side. 960 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 1: Players on one side of the ball may execute a play, 961 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: but players on the opposite side of the ball may 962 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 1: not initiate contact with or attempt to impede the progress 963 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: of players who are running to play. All such drills 964 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 1: must be conducted in an acceptable walkthrough pace i e. 965 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl practice. I love that parenthetical reference. Phase three 966 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: May twenty fourth to June eighteenth remains its customary four 967 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: weeks in length. Beginning in Phase three, clubs may conduct 968 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: in person meetings, classroom instruction, subject to COVID testing, cadence tracking, 969 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: facility access in other protocols. During Phase three, teams may 970 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: conduct total of ten days of organized team practice activity, 971 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: the conventionally known OTAs no live contact permitted seven on seven, 972 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 1: nine on seven, eleven on eleven drills are permitted. So 973 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: that is where we stand, and with COVID protocols still 974 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 1: fully in place, as was the case during the regular season. 975 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 1: So there's your update. If if you are vaccinated, they've 976 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: already been delineating as it's becoming more and more common. 977 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: You know, overnight everything changes. But whenever, if you're fully vaccinated, 978 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now in the NFL you get 979 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: tested once a week, and if you're not, it's every day. Yeah, 980 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: And now they had to have separate open, separate entrances 981 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,720 Speaker 1: and stuff here at the at the building. When players 982 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: start showing up, they got to go in one build, 983 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: one door and get tested if they're supposed to, and 984 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: then and everybody else goes in other doors. All that 985 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: stuff's back in place now, although it's still not as 986 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: stringent as it was during the regular season last fall. 987 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones where we're asking you, 988 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: in what order will the AFC East finish in twenty 989 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: twenty one and why? And here to help us out 990 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 1: is Neil in Toronto. Neil, what do you have for us? 991 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, good afternoon, guys. How 992 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: are you good? Good? A couple of things. First of all, 993 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 1: I think the Jets are going to finish last. They're 994 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: not going to be able to score a lot of 995 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: points still this year one of the best bests made 996 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,720 Speaker 1: the under and every one of their games in New England. 997 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: With some changes in and the two tight ends and 998 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: Newton as a running back there you know, basically more 999 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 1: than a quarterback. I think you'll see a lot of 1000 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: their games close one scoring games. They may pull out 1001 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: some games, but they get behind early. They're not going 1002 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: to be able to be an impact team. Buffalo is 1003 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: still the front runner, but I think Buffalo Miami is 1004 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot closer at the end, depending on 1005 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: the actual schedule when it comes out next week. There's 1006 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: a couple of things with Buffalo schedule, including Kansas City 1007 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh gives a little bit of a tougher schedule. 1008 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 1: The Dolphins did play well last year. They do have 1009 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: a lot more additions that are going to be impact 1010 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: or starters. Where the Bills have sort of held Ford, 1011 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna They've invested in the future a lot of 1012 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: their draft picks. They've showed with their coaching staff and 1013 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,720 Speaker 1: the management down in Miami that they've been able to 1014 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: be ahead of the program. I think the two things. 1015 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 1: Another thing is too, you've got fits coming into the 1016 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: building for that extra game, and that could be a 1017 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,439 Speaker 1: little you know, wild card because he he always plays 1018 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 1: well against Buffalo. He's with a solid defense and a 1019 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: good offense in Washington. Where that extra game from Miami, 1020 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,760 Speaker 1: I believe it is New York so and uh and 1021 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,760 Speaker 1: you know there's still a lot of people, including mister Tasker, 1022 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,879 Speaker 1: that to undersell two as accomplishments in the first year 1023 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 1: and now with a fuller waddle, you know, a healthy 1024 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: Parker and another year in his belt with spring training, 1025 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: I think that could be for the arrival we were 1026 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,439 Speaker 1: all looking for now where it is a legitimate run 1027 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: to the races again, and if the schedule comes out 1028 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: in that last game is it's hopefully reversed this year, 1029 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: and it's the Nyami versus being in Buffalo that could 1030 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,399 Speaker 1: be enough to be a the difference. But I think 1031 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,720 Speaker 1: you're you're going to see in US another um nice 1032 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, long season between those two front runners. Yeah, 1033 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a good calling. You might be 1034 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,800 Speaker 1: right about two. I mean, I have under and Brownie 1035 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 1: and I are cut. I mean, I maybe I'm doing 1036 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: it to Brownie, but I'm really have been affected by 1037 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: the games Miami played against Buffalo last year, in particular 1038 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 1: two A two. It did not have his best game 1039 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 1: against Buffalo last year, and not all of it was 1040 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: his fault, no question. But when you see these two 1041 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: teams play, it is not shocking and it's not unbelievable. 1042 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: It's you see these two quarterbacks play. There's a vast 1043 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: difference between Josh Allen and tah Josh Allen is was 1044 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 1: vastly ahead of two A last year, and he should 1045 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: have been. He's two years old, older than the league. 1046 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: But the physical differences, the way the ball was thrown, 1047 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: what they were asking him to do. TWA has a large, 1048 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: a big step. To get into the conversation with Buffalo's 1049 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: quarterback and he may be able to take that step. 1050 00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 1: He might, but he's not gonna do it physically because 1051 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 1: that's not there and that's not getting better. But he 1052 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: could with so we'll see. But he's got that. He's 1053 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 1: got more to overcome trying to get to that point 1054 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: than some of the other guys we've seen do. So 1055 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm you're you may you may get me on that, 1056 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 1: and you can call me on it, and I get it. 1057 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: I probably deserve it. I am not high on Tua 1058 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: because every time I see Tua play, he's played against 1059 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: our guy and he looks like a junior varsity player, 1060 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: well physically right. And there are a lot of people 1061 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: that are wondering openly, Hey, you know, Ta was less 1062 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: than a year removed from you know, major hip surgery, 1063 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe that impacted his mobility, his escapability, 1064 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: his running ability. People think, oh, you know, now that 1065 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: thing's going to be fully recovered, maybe he's better, Maybe 1066 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 1: he can step into his throws more effectively. Whatever the 1067 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 1: case might be, we'll see um. And you know, they 1068 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: gave Josh Allen time here, They put the right things 1069 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 1: around him to help him succeed. He had the same 1070 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator throughout the whole thing. That is not something 1071 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: too is going to have because Jan Galley retired. And 1072 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 1: while he is going to have two familiar members on 1073 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: the staff that got promoted, he's going to have co 1074 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. And we're gonna have Armando Salgaroon in the 1075 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: next segment here, and I am going to ask him 1076 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: how the hell is that going to work? Yet, George 1077 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 1: Godzi and Eric Studisville working together as co offensive coordinators. 1078 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: I assume they're going to delineate that one of them 1079 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: is the play caller exclusively so as not to muddy 1080 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: the waters anymore. But two voices in his ear, and 1081 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: that's not even counting the quarterbacks. Coach, I don't know. 1082 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that's the best thing 1083 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: for a second year quarterback to have two co coordinators, 1084 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? Chuck it down to the 1085 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 1: cob and let's go. Like, I don't think that helps him. 1086 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 1: And we said this earlier. Remember we're having the conversation 1087 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: about Brian Flores and some of the stuff that he 1088 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 1: did last year. We got a lot of respect for 1089 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: him because, oh I think he's a good head coach. Yeah, right, 1090 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: I do too, but he's done a couple of things 1091 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: where he's like, I don't know, like they win three 1092 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: games in a row and he benches the quarterback, and yeah, 1093 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: he benches fits. Then you know there's you know, they 1094 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: bring in these a couple of guys on big free 1095 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: agent deals, like Kyle van Noy, now him a ton 1096 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: of money, paid a ton of money. Both those guys 1097 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: are gone. So they do that. And then we just 1098 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: heard today Bobby McCain, who is a team captain for 1099 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, a great and nice safety for him, they 1100 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: cut him today. So whether that's a money deal or whatever, 1101 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's cutting team captains right after the draft, 1102 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 1: so he is not I mean, one thing about Brian 1103 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Floor is he does not care what it looks like. 1104 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: If he thinks it's the right decision, he's doing it. 1105 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 1: And we've seen that they traded for the first round 1106 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 1: draft pick of the Tennessee Titans. The guy never showed 1107 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: up three days they release it three days later. Of course, 1108 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: it only costs him like a sixth round pick. But 1109 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, they do stuff like that, and every once 1110 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 1: in a while you're like, what was that about benching 1111 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: your quarterback? After three game winning streak. Show me when 1112 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 1: that's happened in the history of the league, you know. Now, 1113 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: I'll say this too, he didn't hesitate to pull two 1114 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: and put Fitz back in during the season, and he 1115 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: played that right a couple of times as well. But 1116 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Brian Flores to me, that's an organization that stays on 1117 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: its toes because of those kind of decisions, and Two 1118 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: has got to be a part of that. I wonder 1119 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: how secure two is going to feel in his job 1120 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 1: without fits back in him up. Yeah, it's well, they 1121 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: have Jacoby Brisette now that's the backup in Miami. So 1122 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: we'll see, and we'll have some questions that one Armando 1123 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Salguero can answer when we return, I mean, Harold's columnist 1124 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: and long time reporter will be talking Dolphins with us, 1125 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: and the AFC still large. We'll ask him out he 1126 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 1: sees the AFC. He's finishing in twenty twenty one. When 1127 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: we return here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health, 1128 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live. 1129 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,479 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and on the line 1130 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 1: right now. Odyssey Sports NFL Insider Armando Salgero Insider Calls 1131 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: brought to you by the Dell Technology Small Business Pod 1132 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 1: FENS two point zero podcast series available on Odyssey dot com. 1133 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Forward Slash Dell Armando, how are we doing on the 1134 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: heels of the draft here? We're rested up now. It 1135 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: wasn't the same. I couldn't have said the same on 1136 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Sunday List, that's for sure. Yeah, what is the vibe 1137 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: down in South Beach about how the Dolphins picked? Dude? 1138 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 1: The vibe on South Beach is, you know, we're gonna 1139 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: party and drink until six am, and we don't care 1140 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: about the Miami Dolphins spot at hard Rock Stadium, and 1141 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the county folks are excited. They think 1142 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 1: that the Dolphins this offseason, and not just in the draft, 1143 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: but this entire offseason have added playmakers and an offense 1144 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: that was kind of stagnant last year and kind of 1145 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: stifled by the lack of speed. Has that in droves 1146 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 1: now with will Fuller and Jail and Waddle. What are 1147 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: we supposed to make of Bobby McCain's release. If I'm 1148 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, I'm looking at Bobby McCain and I'm 1149 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 1: thinking slot that's his position slot. Oh slot. So look, 1150 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 1: the Dolphins had four guys who were captains last year. 1151 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 1: They're all gone. So Bobby McCain was one of them. 1152 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick was one of them, Kyle van Noyd was 1153 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 1: one of them. Ted Harris was one of them. They're 1154 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: all gone. So I don't know where their leadership is 1155 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: going to come this season or you know, by this season, 1156 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean the next season. It's going to be an interesting, 1157 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 1: an interesting time. And it's a great experiment in his 1158 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: leadership as important as improving the position. In other words, 1159 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: it's great to have a great player who's a great leader, 1160 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: but you don't always have that. Sometimes it's you have 1161 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: a great leader who's not as good a player, or 1162 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: a great player who's not a leader at all. We'll 1163 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: see what the Dolphin do with those positions. Because they 1164 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: think they've upgraded to they upgraded leadership. Do you think 1165 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 1: that it speaks to how high they are on Javon Holland, 1166 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 1: the second round pick. Without question. They love the fact 1167 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: that he's going to be a Eugene Chung type of 1168 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 1: guy for the Dolphins. If you remember the Patriot safety 1169 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: of you know, a couple of years ago. That's the 1170 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 1: that's the role that Brian Flores, who happened to coach 1171 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 1: Eugene Chung in New England, what he sees for Javon Holland. 1172 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 1: They've also been visiting with Malie Hooker of the Colts, 1173 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: who you know missed most of the the last year or 1174 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 1: all of last year really with an achilles injury, so 1175 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 1: they might not be done back there. And then just 1176 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 1: quickly with respect to the offense, because we know that 1177 01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 1: Godsy and Studisville are cold coordinating, and then apparently quarterbacks 1178 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 1: coach Charlie Fry is going to have some input in 1179 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: terms of blending you know, some of the more popular 1180 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: college schemes in with the pro schemes. Having been a 1181 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 1: coordinator in the college ranks, is this is there concerned 1182 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: that this is just going to muddy the waters and 1183 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: make it murkier for TUA or is there going to 1184 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: be a clear delineation as to who's calling plays and 1185 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:29,040 Speaker 1: running the show here? Yeah, And when listening to you 1186 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: speak about it, it sounds ominous, and Levy had some 1187 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 1: more ominous to it. They're running somebody else's offense, the 1188 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 1: three of them, because the offense that they're going to 1189 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: run is fundamentally chan Gailey's offense, and Gaily was the 1190 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator last year and he left and retired or 1191 01:06:52,160 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: re retired, So they're gonna run Gailey's offense. Studeville, you know, 1192 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: Godsey and Fry are gonna run Gaily's often think about that, Yeah, Like, 1193 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't like that thought. And then I'm not even 1194 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 1: at the execution part yet in terms of what's going 1195 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 1: to be communicated to Tuam, whether it's during the week 1196 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 1: preparation or in game in his ear, Like, do we 1197 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: know any of that yet? No, we don't. Brian Flores does, yeah, 1198 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 1: but he's not volunteering. So it's gonna be something that 1199 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: we'll find out when the season, or at least the 1200 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 1: preseason gets underway. It's gonna be very very interesting to watch. 1201 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: We've sat up here and watched some of the things 1202 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: that go on in Miami from a thousand miles away, obviously, 1203 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 1: and we saw last year where the Dolphins get off 1204 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 1: on this three game winning streak, get to four and 1205 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 1: three and then bench their quarterback. And then you see 1206 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 1: him bring in a couple of high price free agencies, 1207 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,919 Speaker 1: one from here in Buffalo, Shack Lawson and then Kyle 1208 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: Van Noy, Ted Carriss, all those Now those guys are 1209 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 1: in for one year, signed big deals. Now they're gone. 1210 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: The four captains all gone from this last year, their 1211 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 1: their bench. They released Bobby McCain today. I mean, there 1212 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 1: have been some really sort of message sending decisions from 1213 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 1: Brian Flores over the past twelve months. And can you 1214 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,759 Speaker 1: give us an idea of what he's about and maybe 1215 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: some other decisions that may be coming down the pipe. Well, 1216 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 1: I mean, what he's about is he wants, according to 1217 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,719 Speaker 1: what he has said, a team that is tough minded, 1218 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 1: a team that plays hard, a team that is comprised 1219 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 1: of players who are about the team more than about 1220 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: the individual. So clearly that so far has worked for him, 1221 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: because the Dolphins put a triple A college team type 1222 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: rostered together in twenty nineteen and Flora's milk five wins 1223 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,799 Speaker 1: out of that team. Last year they had ten wins, 1224 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 1: and no they didn't make the playoffs, and yes they 1225 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 1: got destroyed by the Bills in the season finale with 1226 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs on the line. But folks down here looking 1227 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 1: at that and going ten wins, what's the next step? 1228 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: And so that's mostly what he's about. But like to 1229 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 1: your point and what you said, he's also about it's 1230 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 1: my way or the highway, and I don't let you 1231 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 1: stick around if it's not my way. We have to 1232 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 1: understand the Dolphins are working on having their fourth offensive 1233 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: line coach in three years, because Flora's fired the first 1234 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: guy four days into his first camp because he didn't 1235 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:03,759 Speaker 1: agree with him. Then they fired another guy, and then 1236 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,639 Speaker 1: you know last year's guys went left with Gaily, So 1237 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 1: they're on their fourth offensive line coach. You have their 1238 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 1: out their second or third offensive coordinator, and the first 1239 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:24,120 Speaker 1: guy Chad o'sheay. He worked with Flores for twelve years 1240 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 1: in New England, came down to Miami to be his 1241 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and was fired after one year. You know, 1242 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: Eric Flowers, who is from Miami, signed with the Dolphins 1243 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,480 Speaker 1: to be their left guard and it wasn't a chief contract. 1244 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 1: He was making ten million dollars a year, and this year, 1245 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:52,080 Speaker 1: after one year, he's traded to Washington and the Dolphins 1246 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 1: wanted to trade him so badly that they paid him 1247 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: six million dollars of his stalary to make the trade war. 1248 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: So the Dolphins are paying Eric Flowers six million dollars 1249 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 1: to play for the Washington Redskins this year. Yeah, it's 1250 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 1: if you are a favorite of Brian Flores, God bless you, 1251 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna it's gonna work. But favorite is not a 1252 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 1: permanent thing, and it doesn't sound like there's too many 1253 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 1: of them either. When it comes to the draft choice 1254 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: of Jalen Phillips Armando, I'm sure everyone at least that's 1255 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 1: talking right now between us three would agree on talent alone, 1256 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: he's probably a top ten pick. Dolphins get him at eighteen. 1257 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 1: We know the concussion history, we know he's stepped away 1258 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,439 Speaker 1: from the college game and for all intents and purposes 1259 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,799 Speaker 1: retired before being coaxed back on the field at Miami. 1260 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 1: Have Chris Greer or Brian floor has been asked, you know, 1261 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 1: they're a question about maybe their concerns with his long 1262 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 1: term physical health in light of the concussion history. Right, 1263 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 1: so they have been asked. The obvious and predictable answer was, 1264 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 1: we did all our research, We looked into the whole thing. 1265 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 1: We're comfortable with where Jalen Phillips is physically and beyond that, 1266 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, emotionally and psychologically. Because if you're retiring at 1267 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 1: age nineteen, you know, you're dealing with stuff probably, and 1268 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:40,639 Speaker 1: so the Dolphins looked into that and they're comfortable with that. 1269 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,599 Speaker 1: And what they're really comfortable is with is the other stuff, 1270 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 1: which is this is a top ten talent, like you mentioned, 1271 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: and you know they got him at eighteen, So they 1272 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: think that they've got not just a very good player, 1273 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 1: but a player that really puts, you know, a little 1274 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 1: bit of fear or should be if he's plays up 1275 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: to his potential in the minds and the hearts of 1276 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, the New York Jets, and yes, 1277 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,719 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Give us a little insight Jaylen Waddle 1278 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be. I mean, he's an absolutely plug in 1279 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,880 Speaker 1: and play him kind of wide receiver. Give us a 1280 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,880 Speaker 1: highlight or maybe a synopsis of who you think will 1281 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,479 Speaker 1: be on the field. Will they go two wides, two 1282 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 1: tight or three wise four wise? What do you think 1283 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 1: their go to formation will be if they put their 1284 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,639 Speaker 1: best players on the field the way the roster looks 1285 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: right now. So if they're running chan Gailey's offense without 1286 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:46,759 Speaker 1: chan Gailey, they're gonna be in three wides and those 1287 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: guys will be William Fuller who they acquired as a 1288 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 1: free agent, DeVante Parker, who's their number one receiver last 1289 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,719 Speaker 1: couple of years, in the last three years, and Jalen 1290 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 1: Waddle in the slot, and and you know, at tight 1291 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 1: end they got Gassicki, Mike Gisicki, who led them in 1292 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 1: touchdowns last year at six. And if they want to 1293 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 1: go double tight, they drafted a kid from Boston College, 1294 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Hunter Long, who is already probably their most complete tight 1295 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,000 Speaker 1: end on the roster because he's gonna catch the ball, 1296 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 1: but he can also block, which is something that Gissicki 1297 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 1: is a great at. Did has Jalen Waddle hugged it 1298 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,479 Speaker 1: out with twa yet in light of his statement that 1299 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 1: he prefers mac Jones to Tua, Yeah, I don't know 1300 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,719 Speaker 1: if they've actually even seen each other yet. They those 1301 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,360 Speaker 1: guys are at least not in the practice facility. They 1302 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: were still in in you know, virtual meetings and so forth. 1303 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 1: But what I would say is my guess is knowing Tuah, 1304 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, that didn't that didn't bother him too much. 1305 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that relationship is a lot more than that, 1306 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, one sentence comment, Devanta Smith said the same thing. 1307 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 1: So it's kind of interesting. But you know, water off 1308 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,720 Speaker 1: a duck's back. I think what is next on the 1309 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 1: menu for the Dolphins as they head into training camp? 1310 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 1: Do they have anything that people are wringing their hands 1311 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 1: about with their roster? They should be wringing their hands 1312 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 1: about the running back corps, which is, you know, average 1313 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 1: at best. So the other day for the Miami Herald, 1314 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 1: I ranked the position groups one to ten, and the 1315 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 1: running back corps was number ten. Because they've got all 1316 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:52,559 Speaker 1: their guys are seven sixth round picks, undrafted guys who 1317 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 1: none of them are dynamic in any way. I mean, 1318 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: the longest run by Dolphins running back currently on the 1319 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:09,679 Speaker 1: roster over his career is thirty one yards, and that's 1320 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, they don't have a guy that is going 1321 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 1: to go sixty yards. They don't have that. They didn't 1322 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 1: draft that, and I don't know that they're going to 1323 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,560 Speaker 1: be able to get that in the back end of 1324 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 1: free agency. So I would say to you that that 1325 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 1: position is going to be interesting. They're comfortable with Miles Gaskon, 1326 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:40,320 Speaker 1: but Miles Gascon, he's a four yard to carry guy. Okay, 1327 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 1: what what happened? What happened? Can we can we can 1328 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,880 Speaker 1: you feel how excited Armando is about the Dolphins running game. 1329 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,599 Speaker 1: It's palpable. Well, we picked up a Miami running back 1330 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,240 Speaker 1: up here. How how did he fall out of a 1331 01:16:54,280 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 1: favor down in Miami. Yeah, Matt Brida. Matt Brita was 1332 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 1: dynamic in San Francisco. He came to the Dolphins and 1333 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 1: got a chance and really didn't maximize his opportunities. I'm 1334 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 1: sure that some of that had to do with the 1335 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: offensive line in front of him and the fact that 1336 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 1: the Dolphins were starting, you know, four new guys most 1337 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,360 Speaker 1: of the year, and three of them are rookies. But 1338 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:33,040 Speaker 1: having said that, he I don't know if it he 1339 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:38,840 Speaker 1: just wasn't all there the entire time. It was interesting. 1340 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,839 Speaker 1: Some guys they had just better to the new place, quicker, 1341 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:49,639 Speaker 1: better faster. Some places are easier to adjust to than others. 1342 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,480 Speaker 1: South Florida can be, you know, it could be an experience, 1343 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 1: let's be frank. I don't know. I don't know if 1344 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 1: that was an issue for him, but it simply you know, 1345 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,840 Speaker 1: the Dolphins gave up a fifth round pick for him 1346 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. We didn't see him a 1347 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:15,679 Speaker 1: whole lot, and it wasn't to the point where the 1348 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,960 Speaker 1: locker room was open and you could go up to 1349 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 1: him and go, hey, Matt, what's up. You know, they 1350 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 1: didn't make them available a whole lot either. Yeah, Armando, 1351 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,759 Speaker 1: forgive me, but the picture you're painting here is quite 1352 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:35,240 Speaker 1: cryptic in terms of how the Dolphins do business, including 1353 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:40,719 Speaker 1: the coach to player relationships. Here, it doesn't sound like 1354 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,200 Speaker 1: being a newcomer on this roster is an easy thing 1355 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:50,360 Speaker 1: in terms of assimilation. I can't imagine that when four 1356 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: captains are moved off the roster from the prior year 1357 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 1: that that sends a great message to the players in 1358 01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 1: the locker room, because it's like, wow, not even the 1359 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 1: leaders on our team get the benefit of the doubt 1360 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 1: or whatever. And I'm not going to pretend to know 1361 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 1: what you know, the inside cases are with those players 1362 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,639 Speaker 1: per se. But you're painting a picture here, armand where 1363 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, how delicate is this whole operation in 1364 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 1: terms of players to coaches, whether you're talking about multiple 1365 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:25,000 Speaker 1: coordinators on offense, Brian Flores, Jettison and captain's guys having 1366 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 1: a tough time blending in, Like what are we looking 1367 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,960 Speaker 1: at here? What we're looking at is today. That's all 1368 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 1: that the organization cares about. They care about today, getting 1369 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:42,400 Speaker 1: better today, doing your job today, having the best meeting 1370 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 1: that you can today, having the best walk through, having 1371 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 1: the best practice that you can, or the best lift 1372 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:56,600 Speaker 1: session today and tomorrow you'll think about tomorrow, tomorrow and 1373 01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 1: next year is not even anywhere on the radar. So 1374 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,720 Speaker 1: our relationship and our you know we love each other 1375 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 1: or don't love each other, or whether you're going to 1376 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,960 Speaker 1: be here or not, we're not even going there or 1377 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,080 Speaker 1: discussing it or thinking about it. And if you are, 1378 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,600 Speaker 1: you're going to get a visit with the coach in 1379 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,759 Speaker 1: his office. That's the part of the culture that they've 1380 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 1: that they've you know, put together. I would say it's 1381 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:30,799 Speaker 1: a very similar culture to what New England had during 1382 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 1: their heyday. You know, they were winning. That's what made it, 1383 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 1: I would say more than tolerable in New England. When 1384 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:45,599 Speaker 1: you're winning championships, you can be coached hard and you 1385 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:50,000 Speaker 1: can deal with you know, the no love and this 1386 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 1: and that. But if you're not winning championships, it can 1387 01:20:55,200 --> 01:21:01,240 Speaker 1: wear on some guys. And I think that's that's what 1388 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 1: we've seen. But the beauty of the Dolphins is they've 1389 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 1: got so many young players and they don't know how 1390 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 1: it is elsewhere, so they're assuming this is how it 1391 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,760 Speaker 1: is everywhere. It sounds like And I don't know if 1392 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,799 Speaker 1: this is a correct question to ask, but how likely 1393 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 1: is it given all this, the chan Gailey retiring, you 1394 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,800 Speaker 1: got three guys running chan Gailey's offense, none of whom 1395 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 1: are chan Gailey. How likely is it that all three 1396 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,120 Speaker 1: of those guys survived the season? To me, in that 1397 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 1: environment you're describing, I mean, if you remember the old 1398 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,800 Speaker 1: James Bond movie, Brian Flores is driving the car with 1399 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,000 Speaker 1: a little red button on the stick shift and somebody's 1400 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 1: gonna get ejected. My guess is all three of those 1401 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 1: guys will survive this season. But if we're talking next year, 1402 01:21:55,080 --> 01:22:01,639 Speaker 1: and you know the Dolphins offensive co coordinas are Eric 1403 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Stoudsville and George Godsey, and you know Charlie Fry has 1404 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 1: a major say in what happens with the offense, and 1405 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:18,479 Speaker 1: they're running chan Gailey's offense, fundamentally, I would be very 1406 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 1: highly surprised. Wow, whether it goes well this year or not, 1407 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 1: I don't know that that helps it to it. It 1408 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 1: doesn't help to It just doesn't help him and he's well. Interestingly, 1409 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,600 Speaker 1: the reason that they kept most of Chan's offense is 1410 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 1: to help to us. I wouldn't have to learn a 1411 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,240 Speaker 1: whole new different offense. Yeah, I get it from the 1412 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,960 Speaker 1: scheme perspective, but in terms of who's going to be 1413 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 1: in his ear and to what degree, and whether there's 1414 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,120 Speaker 1: going to be too, I just think football and the 1415 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,799 Speaker 1: way it works, there has to be a clear line 1416 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 1: of responsibility and delineation of assignments, and I just think 1417 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 1: this is the opposite of that. And I don't know 1418 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,640 Speaker 1: that that helps to Ah. I mean, I understand collaboration 1419 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,240 Speaker 1: and putting a game plan together. I mean, I guess 1420 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,360 Speaker 1: as long as they have a straight line of communication 1421 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 1: on game day, maybe it doesn't matter. But man, I 1422 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 1: always get a little antsie when I see this many 1423 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,400 Speaker 1: cooks in the kitchen. Armando, let me ask you this 1424 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 1: before this would be the last one for me. What 1425 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of environment do you think Tua is going to 1426 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,720 Speaker 1: need to take another step forward? And what do you 1427 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,559 Speaker 1: think the coaching staff is thinking about about helping him 1428 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 1: along and supporting them. Certainly they've done some stuff in 1429 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 1: the draft that we could all say yeah, you can 1430 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,679 Speaker 1: nod and say, yeah, they're doing their best to get 1431 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,680 Speaker 1: him what he needs to be successful. What do you 1432 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,120 Speaker 1: think from the outside of the organization and what are 1433 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 1: the fans think and football people who follow your team closely, 1434 01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,240 Speaker 1: what do they think to Ah needs to take another 1435 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:48,320 Speaker 1: step forward. So Tangibly, what he needed was more talent 1436 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 1: around him. The way to get a quarterback better is 1437 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 1: obviously for him to improve. But if other guys around 1438 01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,599 Speaker 1: him are better than what he's had in the path, uh, 1439 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 1: that's gonna be way easier. So the Dolphins have done 1440 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,839 Speaker 1: a lot of work to improve, you know, the guys 1441 01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 1: around him to If Tuah is the the Rembrandt, then 1442 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,599 Speaker 1: the Dolphins have looked for, you know, a golden frame 1443 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,800 Speaker 1: to put him in. What I would say to you 1444 01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:26,800 Speaker 1: beyond Tangibly on the field, performance wise, I think that 1445 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:31,320 Speaker 1: the Dolphins need to They've committed to Tah, but in 1446 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:36,000 Speaker 1: season I think they have to commit to a Last year, 1447 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:41,080 Speaker 1: after he was named the starter, there were two games 1448 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:47,679 Speaker 1: that he started and got benched. And you I guess 1449 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 1: you can do that with a rookie quarterback, but if 1450 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:59,600 Speaker 1: you're doing that to any amount of of you know, 1451 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:07,840 Speaker 1: ofteness if that's the word beyond his first year, something's up. 1452 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 1: And that works on a player's psyche, I think it 1453 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 1: would work on anybody's psyche. Man, you give me the 1454 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 1: job and you don't let me finish. My guess is 1455 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:22,559 Speaker 1: that that last game at Buffalo, if Ryan Fitzpatrick had 1456 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,360 Speaker 1: not been on the COVID list, TUA would not have 1457 01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,200 Speaker 1: finished that game. Yeah, and it looked like it played 1458 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,720 Speaker 1: on those defensive players in that game too, because after 1459 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,920 Speaker 1: it was fourteen to three, the body language for those 1460 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 1: defensive players in that game changed because they didn't they 1461 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 1: knew they didn't have fits on the bench correct. And 1462 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 1: so at some point the training wheels are off, they 1463 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 1: have to ride or die with tuah and and they 1464 01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 1: think that they're gonna be riding high. We'll see if 1465 01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:59,439 Speaker 1: they you know, if that's the case. Armando is always 1466 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 1: we appreciate at the inside. Thanks very much for the time. 1467 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you down the line. Thanks, Armando, 1468 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,080 Speaker 1: always my pleasure man. All Right. That was Odyssey Sports 1469 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 1: NFL insider Armando Salgaro Insider Calls brought to you by 1470 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,960 Speaker 1: the Dell Technology Small Business Pod for its two point 1471 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:17,559 Speaker 1: zero podcast series, available on Odyssey dot Com forward slash Dell. 1472 01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,680 Speaker 1: We will take a break but be back with more 1473 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 1: of your thoughts on how you think the AFC East 1474 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 1: will shape up post draft. I don't know if I 1475 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,400 Speaker 1: feel so good about the dollars right now after the 1476 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,280 Speaker 1: picture that Armando painted, But we can talk more about 1477 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,880 Speaker 1: that when we return here on One Bills Live presented 1478 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:49,160 Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. I'll go 1479 01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,600 Speaker 1: back to one Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve casting with you. 1480 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Steve, but I feel a 1481 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 1: whole lot better about the Dolphins flaming out and go 1482 01:26:55,240 --> 01:27:00,200 Speaker 1: in eight and eighth this season. I think Brian floor Is, 1483 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:01,680 Speaker 1: as I was telling you during the break, wants to 1484 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 1: rule with an iron fist, and I don't know if 1485 01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:07,000 Speaker 1: he's got the resume in this league to demand that 1486 01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,800 Speaker 1: from his players, And I don't know how players lay 1487 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,439 Speaker 1: it on the line for a guy that has no 1488 01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,479 Speaker 1: problem cutting four captains off his roster from last year, 1489 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 1: which which was fully completed with the release of Bobby McCain. Today, 1490 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 1: the safety it's like the equivalent of cutting Jerry Hughes, 1491 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:25,720 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, some offensive co captain and you know, Mitch Morrison, Yeah, 1492 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,560 Speaker 1: Mitch Morrison, I don't know, name some other guys. You know. 1493 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,599 Speaker 1: It's just I don't know how player you're gonna shake 1494 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,719 Speaker 1: your locker room to its core when you do something 1495 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 1: like that, even if it is in the off season, 1496 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,040 Speaker 1: from a long way away from where we are, it 1497 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 1: really looks like it would be disconcerting for players who 1498 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,479 Speaker 1: are coming in, particularly veteran guy who's coming back in 1499 01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 1: that locker room room. Where's our boy? How do we say? 1500 01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:54,280 Speaker 1: How can you preach that leadership counts when you do that? 1501 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,160 Speaker 1: Like what? You just pick those guys to be our leaders? 1502 01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,479 Speaker 1: All four of them are gone. And it's interesting too, 1503 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 1: and maybe we just haven't searched hard enough or whatever. 1504 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:09,000 Speaker 1: I'd never heard. Why Kyle van noy's not there? Why 1505 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,200 Speaker 1: Ted Carriss is no longer there. Why is Bobby McCain 1506 01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,880 Speaker 1: being sent to kick to the curb? Why are these 1507 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,519 Speaker 1: seemingly you know, Kyle van Noy, Why are these guys 1508 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:24,720 Speaker 1: being jettisoned at all after they were just signed to 1509 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,560 Speaker 1: lucrative deals as free agents. Shack Lawson. Now that was 1510 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 1: a trade, so they got something in return. So you 1511 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,519 Speaker 1: can make a case Okay, is this for that? Okay, fine, 1512 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:38,120 Speaker 1: But I don't know. It just seems a little bit 1513 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:43,440 Speaker 1: helter skelter with the way they are making these decisions, 1514 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,240 Speaker 1: particularly when you get given, like what you said, the 1515 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,840 Speaker 1: intangibles that what it looks like to the players, what 1516 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,479 Speaker 1: kind of players they were when they were there? Were 1517 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: they not living up to it? What did he how 1518 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 1: does he address those moves in a team setting? Does 1519 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,760 Speaker 1: he tell his team about those guys is not being there? 1520 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,720 Speaker 1: And we don't know any of that, And like I said, 1521 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:10,720 Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, it's like, what's going on? Yeah, 1522 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,479 Speaker 1: what happened here to a team that won ten games? Yeah? 1523 01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,120 Speaker 1: I think they go eight and nine or nine and 1524 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,400 Speaker 1: eight this year. You're way down on them after some 1525 01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 1: I am, And I well, first of all, I don't 1526 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:25,280 Speaker 1: like the group think at offensive coordinator. I mean, Godsey 1527 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 1: and Studentsville are co offensive coordinators. I mean, you don't 1528 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,639 Speaker 1: think they're gonna butt heads on stuff. There's no clear 1529 01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 1: delineation as to who has finals say there. Maybe they do, 1530 01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,880 Speaker 1: but they might have don't know. I mean, egos, egos 1531 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,679 Speaker 1: are going to get in the way. They're real fast. 1532 01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,599 Speaker 1: And then what is and how does that impact too. 1533 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 1: It not positively, I don't think so. So yeah, I 1534 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,680 Speaker 1: am not. I'm feeling good about them not being as 1535 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 1: much of a threat as I anticipated. I'll tell you 1536 01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,360 Speaker 1: that right now. They're hard to anticipate now because it 1537 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 1: seems like there's a little bit of like helter skelterness 1538 01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,760 Speaker 1: to their offseason. Certainly, I thought, and a lot of 1539 01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,400 Speaker 1: people thought, they had really good draft. Jalen Phillips, if 1540 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,360 Speaker 1: he works out, he's a He's a tremendous player. Jalen 1541 01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:11,960 Speaker 1: Waddle a tremendous player. They got a couple of really 1542 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 1: good and their third rounder Dodson, No, that's not right. 1543 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:21,160 Speaker 1: What's their second round? Also in the second round, those 1544 01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,760 Speaker 1: two guys can play. They're gonna get some help from 1545 01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,320 Speaker 1: their draft class right away. So that's that's got to 1546 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,719 Speaker 1: be a huge plus for them. Um. Perhaps that's part 1547 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,719 Speaker 1: of and I know of this too, jettisoning the four 1548 01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,639 Speaker 1: captains from a year ago, and I've seen this happen 1549 01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,559 Speaker 1: does clear the way for the people he hand picks 1550 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:46,400 Speaker 1: to lead the team. True meaning like Tua Tonga Vola 1551 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,840 Speaker 1: or Javon Holland. Javon Holland or safety. It could be 1552 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 1: you know Jalen Waddle as well. I mean, could be 1553 01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 1: one of the young guys that come in. He wants 1554 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,840 Speaker 1: them to emerge. Maybe he thinks they've got that kind 1555 01:30:55,840 --> 01:31:00,160 Speaker 1: of uh personality. But it does clear the way for 1556 01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,920 Speaker 1: the team to a little bit by absence dictate who 1557 01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,559 Speaker 1: will lead the team going forward. And perhaps it's a 1558 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,719 Speaker 1: nod toward two of being able to take the reins 1559 01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 1: because a guy like Kyle van noy with with the 1560 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,760 Speaker 1: chops he brings to the table being out of the way, 1561 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,040 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, Bobby McCain being out of the way. 1562 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 1: Perhaps that's what Brian Flores has got in mind. Break 1563 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 1: time for us here, but when we return, we will 1564 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:31,599 Speaker 1: have Buffalo's second round draft choice joining us. One. Boogie 1565 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 1: Basham will be on the line as we talked to 1566 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,639 Speaker 1: him about getting ready for rookie Minicamp. Boogie Basham coming 1567 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,559 Speaker 1: up next here on one Bill is the live Pretend 1568 01:31:40,680 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Had 1569 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over the field, 1570 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,240 Speaker 1: kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 1571 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:12,639 Speaker 1: player for you see Steve a blimp. We're not even 1572 01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:18,320 Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy here. Well, welcome to 1573 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 1: our number three of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve 1574 01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,720 Speaker 1: Tasker with you, and please to be joined by the 1575 01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,080 Speaker 1: man that the Buffalo Bills made the sixty first pick 1576 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:32,719 Speaker 1: in the NFL Draft last Friday night and still basking 1577 01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,959 Speaker 1: in the glow of now officially being a professional athlete. 1578 01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 1: Is one Boogie Basham who's joining us on the line. Bookie, 1579 01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,639 Speaker 1: Good to have you with us. What are you hot 1580 01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,160 Speaker 1: after a workout there? I know we got rookie minicamp 1581 01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:45,920 Speaker 1: coming up. You're just out of the gym. What's going on? 1582 01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:49,640 Speaker 1: H Yeah, I'm down in Virginia right now. I just 1583 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,040 Speaker 1: got in from a still work so I'm just staking 1584 01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:54,960 Speaker 1: there right now, just try to cool up a little bit. 1585 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,320 Speaker 1: What's what's been the schedule like since you got drafted 1586 01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:02,920 Speaker 1: last least we ken the man thing for me just 1587 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, just meet with everybody, getting to know everybody, 1588 01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,760 Speaker 1: and of course myself just getting in the playbook, trying 1589 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,160 Speaker 1: to know everything. Also, you know, coming in next week 1590 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,840 Speaker 1: to shake. That's the main thing for me. And then boogie. Um. 1591 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 1: It was interesting because we found out that Greg Rousseau, 1592 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:22,320 Speaker 1: your new teammate, had his parents lived here in Buffalo 1593 01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,800 Speaker 1: prior to him being born, so it was kind of 1594 01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,160 Speaker 1: a full circle thing for his family. I don't know 1595 01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:28,960 Speaker 1: if you're aware of this, but your head coach at 1596 01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,200 Speaker 1: Wake is from Western New York. Also, he's born up 1597 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,600 Speaker 1: here in Youngstown. I don't know if you've had a 1598 01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,720 Speaker 1: chance to talk to him since you got drafted, but 1599 01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm curious if if he's ever if you have talked 1600 01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,839 Speaker 1: to him, if he said anything to you about Buffalo 1601 01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,280 Speaker 1: and Western New York. Yeah, I had a couple of 1602 01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,120 Speaker 1: conversations with it. The main thing he said for me, 1603 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 1: just just be prepared for the weather. Getting down Rooth, 1604 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Carolina and up in New York is to everything. So 1605 01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,320 Speaker 1: he said that's the main thing He've ben prepared for it. Yeah, Boogie. 1606 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,080 Speaker 1: One of the reasons you we went so highly in 1607 01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,040 Speaker 1: the draft was because of your production. There's a lot 1608 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,799 Speaker 1: of guys who opted out, even your team at Greg Russou, 1609 01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,360 Speaker 1: the first round draft pick of the team, did not 1610 01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,280 Speaker 1: play this last year. You did, and you come out 1611 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:09,479 Speaker 1: of Wake Forest with the fourth all time number of sacks. 1612 01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,439 Speaker 1: You had twenty and a half sacks in your time there. 1613 01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,080 Speaker 1: You had a bunch of tackles for loss. You played 1614 01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot of football at Wake Forest, and it puts 1615 01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:18,639 Speaker 1: you at the top of the draft. Is that what 1616 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,760 Speaker 1: kind of you heard from teams during the process that 1617 01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:26,439 Speaker 1: they knew exactly what they were getting from you. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 1618 01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,720 Speaker 1: They said, my gang spot for itself, you know, just 1619 01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,240 Speaker 1: being there a lot of the time, and also this 1620 01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,840 Speaker 1: develop a year and a year out getting better and better, 1621 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, team stay lovel with that. You know, some 1622 01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,640 Speaker 1: guys that usually go through the process, they have a 1623 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,720 Speaker 1: fall off year. But for me, they said, you know, 1624 01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,040 Speaker 1: they could tell I was getting better each and every year. 1625 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,559 Speaker 1: And then you know, I saw you. You went with 1626 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:49,880 Speaker 1: ninety six for your number, so I know you were nine, 1627 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,840 Speaker 1: you know at school, So are you combining numbers there? 1628 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:55,920 Speaker 1: There's always a story behind a number of choice, So 1629 01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm just curious what was yours for this? You know, 1630 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:01,639 Speaker 1: they didn't you know I wanted you know, I wanted 1631 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,760 Speaker 1: ninety nine just because I couldn't get nice, so you know, 1632 01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,960 Speaker 1: two millions of twenty five, but you know the available 1633 01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,679 Speaker 1: number ninety six. So you know, for men, never really matter. 1634 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,040 Speaker 1: You just go out there and play ball with What 1635 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 1: are you looking forward to when you get in here 1636 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,640 Speaker 1: next week, what's the first thing you're gonna do and 1637 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:19,640 Speaker 1: what are you expecting? For me, it's just getting out 1638 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,320 Speaker 1: there and playing football again. You know, my season was 1639 01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:23,920 Speaker 1: cut short due to COVID, So you know, for me, 1640 01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,120 Speaker 1: it's just pulling back out there and doing what I love. 1641 01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:29,639 Speaker 1: That's the main down. Ready for it, and then uh boogie. 1642 01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:31,639 Speaker 1: We were having fun with Greg Rousseau, so we're gonna 1643 01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,479 Speaker 1: do the same thing here with you. Because our crack 1644 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 1: staff has dug up some some high school footage. Greg 1645 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,360 Speaker 1: Russeau is not the only former wide receiver on this 1646 01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,280 Speaker 1: roster that now plays defensive end. You got a little 1647 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,040 Speaker 1: split out wide a little bit in high school. Uh 1648 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, how how are the how are the route 1649 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,760 Speaker 1: running skills out there? I mean you played defensive end 1650 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,880 Speaker 1: too once you got to your junior year. I know 1651 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:55,519 Speaker 1: you played, you know, on the defensive side of the 1652 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,200 Speaker 1: ball too, obviously, But there's some receiver skills out there 1653 01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:01,640 Speaker 1: that I saw on some of this tape. Yeah. I 1654 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,120 Speaker 1: mean for me, you know, I was always a skilled player. 1655 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,840 Speaker 1: Just when I got I was always bigger than everybody else. 1656 01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:08,960 Speaker 1: You know, they's like, yeah, they gonna play the receiver. 1657 01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, we need you out there in the block 1658 01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,960 Speaker 1: and ball. I always had the jump too, so you 1659 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 1: know the route. The route running is Chris. That's all 1660 01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:16,880 Speaker 1: I can say is Chris, Chris. Okay. And what about 1661 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,120 Speaker 1: what about your hands? Can if you have ball skills, Bookie, 1662 01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,760 Speaker 1: that's all I need to know. Oh yeah, yeah, I 1663 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,840 Speaker 1: definitely got balls. Yeah. I was laughing because we got this. 1664 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, we got these highlights when I was watching them, 1665 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,920 Speaker 1: and they do treat you like a red zooe target 1666 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:34,599 Speaker 1: and they throw that thing up for grabs. You went 1667 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,800 Speaker 1: up and got it a couple of times. It's pretty impressive. 1668 01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,599 Speaker 1: Did you When you got recruited out of high school? 1669 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,439 Speaker 1: What did you hear from college coaches about you know, 1670 01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,519 Speaker 1: you're a defensive end from the get go, I know, 1671 01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,760 Speaker 1: but what do they say about you coming out? Uh? 1672 01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,200 Speaker 1: You know, my freshman and sophomore year, a lot of 1673 01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,720 Speaker 1: people having me just playing offense, you know, like a 1674 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,720 Speaker 1: big wide receiver playing tight end. You know, they just 1675 01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,160 Speaker 1: started going to my junior senior year. You know, I 1676 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,000 Speaker 1: just mainly was on defense. But my senior year they 1677 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:03,439 Speaker 1: put me back in the robber siver just because some 1678 01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,160 Speaker 1: guys had left, you know, and coaches was like, yeah, this, 1679 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can play both sides of the ball. 1680 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,640 Speaker 1: Just you get the colleges up your decision. You know, 1681 01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,559 Speaker 1: after basketball season, I gained probably about thirty pounds and 1682 01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:17,160 Speaker 1: that's why those strictly stuck with defensis. I know that 1683 01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,840 Speaker 1: I heard coach class and comment on, you know, your 1684 01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,880 Speaker 1: decision to return for your senior year, because I think 1685 01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,200 Speaker 1: everybody would agree you could probably come out after your 1686 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,559 Speaker 1: junior year and you certainly would have been a draft choice. 1687 01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,400 Speaker 1: But he commented on what a tight knit group you 1688 01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:37,320 Speaker 1: guys had. They're at weight. Can you just talk about, 1689 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,800 Speaker 1: you know how those relationships kind of weighed into your 1690 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:44,720 Speaker 1: decision to finish things out, you know with the deacons, Yeah, 1691 01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,000 Speaker 1: I'll definitely say. You know, just in the decensive liar room, 1692 01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,960 Speaker 1: the guys great, you know, just even the freshman guys 1693 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,080 Speaker 1: who came in. Every relationship was so guys and it's 1694 01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,240 Speaker 1: like there was nothing nothing more than being in the 1695 01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,639 Speaker 1: room with the people you know, you grind, grind day 1696 01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,000 Speaker 1: in the day out. So you know that took a 1697 01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,000 Speaker 1: big part about to sit and also the other guys 1698 01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 1: outside the defensive line group, you know, our locker room 1699 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:04,880 Speaker 1: was very small. It ain't the biggest locker room, so 1700 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's pretty much on top of each other. 1701 01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:08,720 Speaker 1: You know, you get to know people a lot more. 1702 01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:10,600 Speaker 1: You know. I just wasn't ready to let let the 1703 01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,720 Speaker 1: relationship bill yet. So that's that took a big part 1704 01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,000 Speaker 1: of That's my decision as well. Spend your career before 1705 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,360 Speaker 1: you even stepped onto the field here in Buffalo. Spend 1706 01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,559 Speaker 1: your career. What do you want to be here in Buffalo? 1707 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:23,160 Speaker 1: Where do you want to go? What do you want 1708 01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:26,640 Speaker 1: to happen as a Buffalo Bill in your career? For me, 1709 01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,560 Speaker 1: that's you win a super Bowl. You know, that's a 1710 01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,640 Speaker 1: childhood gym of mine. You know, that's that would be 1711 01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:33,400 Speaker 1: the best thing I can do, is wint a super Bowl. 1712 01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,040 Speaker 1: You also, you know, just be the best player I 1713 01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:36,720 Speaker 1: could be. You know, I'm not really all into the 1714 01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:38,800 Speaker 1: stats and everything, you know, I just want to go 1715 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,960 Speaker 1: out there the best I'll be day in the day out. 1716 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to put this on you, but I 1717 01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,639 Speaker 1: believe there is you know, a duty that you filled 1718 01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,080 Speaker 1: on special teams. You were on kickoff team? Is that right? 1719 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,639 Speaker 1: At Wait? Yeah? Yeah? I was OK. Yeah, I mean 1720 01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:57,240 Speaker 1: these guys are always looking for help on special teams, 1721 01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:01,320 Speaker 1: and you know the young guys usually get tapped in. Um, 1722 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,679 Speaker 1: that's pretty exciting seeing a guy your side is running 1723 01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,120 Speaker 1: forty yards down field to go make a play. How's 1724 01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:09,280 Speaker 1: that sit with you? Uh? Yeah for me. You know 1725 01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,120 Speaker 1: the coaches that you know we have, some guys get injured, 1726 01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:13,600 Speaker 1: some guys didn't play. The coach like you want you 1727 01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,400 Speaker 1: want to be able to kick off? I like, yeah, 1728 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,760 Speaker 1: it's another chance. But I think somebody so why that's 1729 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:23,680 Speaker 1: something I really like doing. Have you ever blocked any kicks? Uh? Yeah, 1730 01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm blocked up about the field goal my junior year. Nice. 1731 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,800 Speaker 1: That's a nice nice. That's nice to add to the repertoire, No, 1732 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,519 Speaker 1: no question about it. What what your schedule for the 1733 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,360 Speaker 1: rest of You're gonna stay in Virginia. You're gonna come 1734 01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:36,960 Speaker 1: to mini camp and then go right back home and 1735 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,439 Speaker 1: start training down there or what kind of feedback have 1736 01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,200 Speaker 1: you gotten about spending more time up here in Western 1737 01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,560 Speaker 1: New York and maybe working out at the facility. What 1738 01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,080 Speaker 1: are your thoughts about the rest of your off season? Um? 1739 01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,519 Speaker 1: You know the thing is, after many camp, Uh, it 1740 01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 1: wasn't really much of a consensus yet know what we 1741 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,400 Speaker 1: can do, what we can't do. It was like this 1742 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,240 Speaker 1: more going day by day. But if I had a 1743 01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,599 Speaker 1: chance to, you know, come home after mini camp, I'm 1744 01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:00,320 Speaker 1: in up going back to Miami to I do some 1745 01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:03,040 Speaker 1: work with a pastor Specials. It's having reporter back for you. 1746 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,160 Speaker 1: And then, Boogie, when you get up here to rookie Minicamp, 1747 01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,920 Speaker 1: you got two draft classmates who you're probably gonna see 1748 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,920 Speaker 1: a lot of out on the edge in Tommy Doyle 1749 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:18,120 Speaker 1: and Spencer Brown. I know you're big, they're bigger. You're 1750 01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,599 Speaker 1: gonna get some good You're gonna get some good practice 1751 01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,559 Speaker 1: against some long offensive tackles, which I think you know 1752 01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,000 Speaker 1: full well you're gonna see a good deal of in 1753 01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,000 Speaker 1: this league, down in and down out. So how much 1754 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,080 Speaker 1: are how much do you think that might help you? 1755 01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,160 Speaker 1: Right from the jump. You're gonna be getting work against 1756 01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:38,400 Speaker 1: some pretty long dudes. You know that definitely be a 1757 01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:40,200 Speaker 1: big help to my advantage as well. You know, just 1758 01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,400 Speaker 1: being a smaller decis Evan, you know, getting that getting 1759 01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,320 Speaker 1: those reps day in and day out with bigger guys 1760 01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,200 Speaker 1: will definitely be advantaged to myself in the season. Well, Boogie, 1761 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:51,439 Speaker 1: when you when you do come up. Have you heard 1762 01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:55,600 Speaker 1: about wings chicken wings? Yeah, yeah, I heard about it. 1763 01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,160 Speaker 1: Have you heard any names or anything like that, or 1764 01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,320 Speaker 1: are you gonna make sure you run those down but 1765 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,400 Speaker 1: when you up here or not. I just heard of 1766 01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:05,439 Speaker 1: they got the best wings. I ain't. They ain't heard 1767 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,360 Speaker 1: no places yet, and so you know, once I get there, 1768 01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I get those places, dass. I'm 1769 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,000 Speaker 1: go out and trying. Well, we know a place when 1770 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,840 Speaker 1: you get up here, so we're looking forward to it. Yeah, 1771 01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:19,400 Speaker 1: don't overdo it though, don't put on another thirty pounds 1772 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,280 Speaker 1: after you like you did after your you know, your 1773 01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:26,679 Speaker 1: basketball season. Man, Boogie listen, thanks very much for the time. 1774 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:28,479 Speaker 1: We don't want to take any more of yours, but 1775 01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,360 Speaker 1: we appreciate it, and uh we look forward to seeing 1776 01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:32,880 Speaker 1: you up here on the field in the not too 1777 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:36,720 Speaker 1: distant future. Thanks for the time. Appreciate it. All right, 1778 01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,120 Speaker 1: let's bill second round pick Boogie Bash him joining us 1779 01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,839 Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live. He's all business man, um, 1780 01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, like he's We saw him sitting in the 1781 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,120 Speaker 1: car when we got him on the line, and uh 1782 01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,240 Speaker 1: he's like, oh yeah, I just got done with some 1783 01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:52,720 Speaker 1: field work. I was just doing some field work and 1784 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,920 Speaker 1: you heard what he said. He said, you know, after 1785 01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:57,439 Speaker 1: some of the after this rookie minicamp, he's going back 1786 01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,240 Speaker 1: down Florida work with a pass rush specialist. I mean, 1787 01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:04,120 Speaker 1: he's he embraces the grind. And if that's not a 1788 01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:05,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills player, I don't know what it is. Yeah, 1789 01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,800 Speaker 1: you gotta these guys put in a lot of work 1790 01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,720 Speaker 1: these days. It's funny you think back years ago and 1791 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,799 Speaker 1: how and I keep saying, you know, the league evolves 1792 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,479 Speaker 1: all the time, and rightfully so it should. Obviously, the 1793 01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:22,200 Speaker 1: economics have changed. And every generation, even before my playing days, 1794 01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:24,800 Speaker 1: the old guys getting out of the league, when you're 1795 01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,840 Speaker 1: coming into the league or said, man, you guys are awesome. 1796 01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,360 Speaker 1: You guys are gonna really make a ton of money now, 1797 01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, And then you know, you play your career 1798 01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:33,720 Speaker 1: and the money escalates, and then when you're leaving you say, wow, 1799 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,320 Speaker 1: you guys are really going to do well. You're making 1800 01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:39,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money now. And then the difference is this, 1801 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,719 Speaker 1: When I came into the league, I'd played with old 1802 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 1: timers that literally had offseason jobs because that's where the 1803 01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,280 Speaker 1: economics of the league was at that time, they were 1804 01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,519 Speaker 1: selling cars, selling insurance, working for their family, would do 1805 01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,160 Speaker 1: whatever they were doing jobs in the offseason to make 1806 01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,439 Speaker 1: it work, and then they'd come into training camp. And 1807 01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:03,680 Speaker 1: training camp back then was before I just before I 1808 01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,240 Speaker 1: got in the league. It was six games, six preseason games, 1809 01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:09,720 Speaker 1: and that's that month and a half or two months 1810 01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,120 Speaker 1: is what they used to get into shape to train 1811 01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:16,599 Speaker 1: to play. Was training camp. Now it has evolved into 1812 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,799 Speaker 1: what it is now. These guys are and it happened 1813 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,200 Speaker 1: in my career. I was, you know, I was in 1814 01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:24,960 Speaker 1: the economic realm of your pro athlete twelve months a year. 1815 01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:27,400 Speaker 1: So I worked at at twelve months a year, and 1816 01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,280 Speaker 1: that that transformed and elevated the game even further. Now 1817 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,760 Speaker 1: you got guys now there's a cottage industry. You got 1818 01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,240 Speaker 1: receiver coaches or help your route run. You got pass 1819 01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:42,759 Speaker 1: rush specialists, you've got catching gurus, you got all this stuff. 1820 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,919 Speaker 1: Running back guys. Devin Singletary's working with a running back specialist, 1821 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:51,000 Speaker 1: kicking specialist, kicking camps. All of this stuff's going on, 1822 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:55,400 Speaker 1: and it's a cottage industry of you know, training specific 1823 01:43:55,800 --> 01:44:00,120 Speaker 1: guys for a specific position in professional sports. And it's 1824 01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,240 Speaker 1: amazing to talk to guys like Boogie who are and 1825 01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,200 Speaker 1: they're already all about it. They're not even in the 1826 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,839 Speaker 1: league yet and they're all about it. Howard and Jeremy 1827 01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 1: on the Morning show on WGR had his college coach on, 1828 01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,560 Speaker 1: Dave Clawson, who, as I mentioned, is you know, a 1829 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,080 Speaker 1: native of porn in Youngstown. I think he went to 1830 01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:19,559 Speaker 1: like Looport High School and he's the head coach down 1831 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:25,080 Speaker 1: there at Wake And he said two days before the draft, 1832 01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,599 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott called him on the phone to ask him 1833 01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:32,320 Speaker 1: about Boogie. Apparently they know each other for more than 1834 01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:37,240 Speaker 1: twenty years. He coach Classen coached at Villanova when Sean 1835 01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,080 Speaker 1: was playing at William and Mary, so they went against 1836 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,400 Speaker 1: each other a good amount and he wanted to know 1837 01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:49,800 Speaker 1: like the full character makeup of Boogie Basham from a 1838 01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:55,040 Speaker 1: guy that he trusted. And I think the winning word 1839 01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,920 Speaker 1: that coach Classen used in describing Boogie Basham because he 1840 01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,960 Speaker 1: was a team captain, was he's a unifier of people. 1841 01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,439 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. You want to win, you want to 1842 01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,080 Speaker 1: win somebody over on a guy fast You say something 1843 01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,519 Speaker 1: like that, Well, and he's not just saying it. You 1844 01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,960 Speaker 1: think that's that's not music to the years of Sean McDermott. 1845 01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what is that is his native language 1846 01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,920 Speaker 1: unifier of people? Are you kidding me? That had to 1847 01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:25,160 Speaker 1: resonate big time. So you know, three days later he's 1848 01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:26,960 Speaker 1: a buffalo bill he hires in it. I mean, it's 1849 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:31,880 Speaker 1: not by accident. And there's no end to the phone 1850 01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,040 Speaker 1: calls that these guys will make to find that out, 1851 01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,439 Speaker 1: because that, you know, some snippet of information or some 1852 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,439 Speaker 1: aspect of a guy's life that you weren't aware of, 1853 01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,760 Speaker 1: changes the entire perspective of how they view him in 1854 01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:45,720 Speaker 1: the room, in the draft room. And you know, I 1855 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,400 Speaker 1: didn't know Greg rus. I watched his you know, his 1856 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:50,800 Speaker 1: highlight reels and it was interesting to me because he 1857 01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:55,840 Speaker 1: had the same number as Jalen Phillips the year before 1858 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:57,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips did. And then you find out also that 1859 01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,559 Speaker 1: in the film I'm watching, he's now twenty pounds heavier 1860 01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:02,960 Speaker 1: than he was in this film. Okay, that's fine. And 1861 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:07,439 Speaker 1: then you find out Greg Rousseau finished high school early 1862 01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,040 Speaker 1: through his own efforts, so that he could get into 1863 01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,599 Speaker 1: spring football. The spring of his senior year of high 1864 01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,880 Speaker 1: school at the University of Miami, and the day after 1865 01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,120 Speaker 1: he takes his last final, he enrolls in Miami University. 1866 01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:23,519 Speaker 1: That those kind of aspects about their personality are really 1867 01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:25,800 Speaker 1: informative about what they're willing to do to make their 1868 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,400 Speaker 1: dreams happen and how driven they are to be great. 1869 01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:34,719 Speaker 1: It resonates because at this level in the NFL, we've 1870 01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,720 Speaker 1: seen it too. Remember Carlos Williams, a young running back, 1871 01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:39,760 Speaker 1: came in and kind of made a big splash as 1872 01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:43,439 Speaker 1: a rookie, and though he made it, he had reached 1873 01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:46,360 Speaker 1: his goals. He wanted to play in the NFL. Well, 1874 01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,800 Speaker 1: he did, and he played well his rookie year. So 1875 01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:53,080 Speaker 1: he gets to the offseason, his dreams are gone because 1876 01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:56,519 Speaker 1: they've been you know, he has no motivation to go 1877 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,120 Speaker 1: any further because that's not that was never his goal. 1878 01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,639 Speaker 1: Now he has to dress it up from someplace else 1879 01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,960 Speaker 1: and he couldn't do it. Yeah, your goals for these 1880 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:07,920 Speaker 1: guys and their their aspirations have to be way well 1881 01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:12,120 Speaker 1: beyond just making it making just getting having a ten 1882 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,800 Speaker 1: sacks season or making one Pro Bowl or doing all that. 1883 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:17,639 Speaker 1: It has to be your goals have to be so 1884 01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:23,120 Speaker 1: lofty that it's never ending process. And that keeps you 1885 01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,400 Speaker 1: motivated through every offseason. If you play sixteen years, it 1886 01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,040 Speaker 1: keeps you motivated year after year after year, and it 1887 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,200 Speaker 1: puts together all of a sudden you you do become 1888 01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:33,560 Speaker 1: one of these guys that are legendary. One thing we 1889 01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,320 Speaker 1: didn't get to ask Boogie was he he has a 1890 01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:43,360 Speaker 1: license plate on his car that says QB Hunter. I 1891 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:47,000 Speaker 1: gotta like that. I mean, that's confidence. I like it. 1892 01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:51,640 Speaker 1: I gotta like it. Um these Yeah, that's it's a 1893 01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,840 Speaker 1: good class. You gotta like it. You gotta like the 1894 01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:56,200 Speaker 1: class that the Bills have put together. They seem like 1895 01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,479 Speaker 1: they're they've got all got their feet on the ground. 1896 01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:02,080 Speaker 1: There was one thing that I wanted to address today 1897 01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,759 Speaker 1: that is not football related, but it is sports related. 1898 01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:11,599 Speaker 1: Willie Mays is turning ninety today. One of the best 1899 01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:18,559 Speaker 1: baseball players ever to put on a uniform. And the fact, 1900 01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,479 Speaker 1: and I think we'd be remiss if we didn't realize. 1901 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,840 Speaker 1: In the last calendar year, and not just because of 1902 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,559 Speaker 1: the pandemic, but just because of old age, we lost 1903 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,639 Speaker 1: ten Baseball Hall of Famers last year, like big names, 1904 01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:34,400 Speaker 1: Tom Seever, a bunch of them. This guy is one 1905 01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,160 Speaker 1: of the greatest ambassadors of the game. I mean, it's 1906 01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:41,880 Speaker 1: been retired like over forty five years, and his name 1907 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:47,120 Speaker 1: still resonates with people and just hearing he was ninety 1908 01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:51,160 Speaker 1: years old today, I found like a seven minute clip 1909 01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,360 Speaker 1: of you know, his career and everything. I sent it 1910 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,639 Speaker 1: to my dad because my dad grew up a New 1911 01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:01,800 Speaker 1: York Giants fan. The poor man lived in Queens, which 1912 01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:06,759 Speaker 1: was at that time the absolute epicenter of Brooklyn Dodger 1913 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,879 Speaker 1: fan country. But his dad grew up in the Bronx 1914 01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:15,760 Speaker 1: up where the Giants played, you know, up you know, 1915 01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:20,920 Speaker 1: north of Manhattan there, and he grew up a Giants fan. 1916 01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:24,880 Speaker 1: Because of that, you kind of inherit your parents fandom. 1917 01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:27,639 Speaker 1: And so the poor guy's going to school every day 1918 01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,880 Speaker 1: surrounded by Brooklyn Dodgers fans as a Giants fan. But 1919 01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:37,559 Speaker 1: Willie Mays was his guy, like number one guy. And 1920 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,960 Speaker 1: I think what gets lost on Willie Mays is the 1921 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:45,720 Speaker 1: guy was five ten, one hundred and seventy pounds and 1922 01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:49,400 Speaker 1: he hits six hundred and sixty home runs was third 1923 01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:53,080 Speaker 1: all time when he retired, and he missed almost two 1924 01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,559 Speaker 1: full years in his prime because he fought in Korea 1925 01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:00,880 Speaker 1: during the Korean War. And my dad is. He'll say 1926 01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:03,880 Speaker 1: it till his grave. If Willie May has got to 1927 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:07,080 Speaker 1: play those two full seasons, he would have broke Babe 1928 01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,160 Speaker 1: Ruth's home run record before anybody else did, before Hank 1929 01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,160 Speaker 1: Aaron for anybody six hundred and sixty, he wasn't far 1930 01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:15,400 Speaker 1: away from seven fourteen. And he would have had a 1931 01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,160 Speaker 1: lot more home runs if he didn't have to play 1932 01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,519 Speaker 1: in that giant stadium where the wind blew in from 1933 01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:24,400 Speaker 1: the outfield in San Francisco for fifteen years. But he 1934 01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:28,439 Speaker 1: is one of only two players all time steve five 1935 01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:31,559 Speaker 1: ten and under to hit over five home run five 1936 01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,920 Speaker 1: hundred home runs. It's him, and it's Mellot, the famous 1937 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:38,479 Speaker 1: New York Giants catcher who was my grandfather's favorite player. 1938 01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:41,800 Speaker 1: So I sent him the seven minute clip and he 1939 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,760 Speaker 1: emailed me back and he's basically telling me I had 1940 01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,360 Speaker 1: tears in my eyes watching a lot of these clips 1941 01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:50,040 Speaker 1: because it just took me right back to my child. 1942 01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,160 Speaker 1: I'll say this, and you know I'm not a baseball guy. 1943 01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:54,920 Speaker 1: I know you're not, but I will Who could you 1944 01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:58,880 Speaker 1: not say, but happy birthday to Willie Mays. It's ninetieth birthday. 1945 01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:02,120 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. He is really He is a legend 1946 01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:04,680 Speaker 1: among legends in sports world in America, legend with the 1947 01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:07,240 Speaker 1: capitol A glad he's I'm glad he's still with us. 1948 01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,720 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is he said baseball was his 1949 01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:15,840 Speaker 1: third best sport. Yeah, what it's a five tool player? 1950 01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,559 Speaker 1: How could do every? How different life is now where 1951 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,680 Speaker 1: we've got and you've got you had kids. I've got 1952 01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,080 Speaker 1: five kids, four sons and a daughter, and they all 1953 01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:26,240 Speaker 1: played sports, and how the sport world, sporting world in 1954 01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,920 Speaker 1: America is now where we're all. We're asking these kids 1955 01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,599 Speaker 1: before they even turned ten years old to pick a sport, 1956 01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,280 Speaker 1: a sport. Well, right, and we grew up. I mean 1957 01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:37,320 Speaker 1: it was everything. What season is baseball? Okay, where's my glove? 1958 01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go dig the glove out of the closet 1959 01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,240 Speaker 1: because I know that's where it is, and it's on 1960 01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:41,680 Speaker 1: to the next and it is where what's next? Yes, 1961 01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:46,560 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's whatever, tennis, it's baseball, it's football 1962 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:48,960 Speaker 1: in the fall, all of these other sport. He played 1963 01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:52,439 Speaker 1: absolutely every sport that you could pick up, and you 1964 01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:55,760 Speaker 1: just don't do that anymore. They don't do that. So, yeah, 1965 01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:58,960 Speaker 1: one last thing about Willie Mays, because my dad tells 1966 01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,080 Speaker 1: this story like it was Yes, he's ten years old, 1967 01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:05,559 Speaker 1: and or no, he's eight years old. And the Giants 1968 01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:07,959 Speaker 1: are fourteen and a half games back at the Dodgers 1969 01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:12,599 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty one, and it's late August, so there's 1970 01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:14,320 Speaker 1: not a lot of time to make up the ground 1971 01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:20,799 Speaker 1: and win the division. So they go on a tear. 1972 01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,920 Speaker 1: They catch the Dodgers on the last day of the 1973 01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:27,360 Speaker 1: regular season. Fourteen and a half games back, they catch 1974 01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:29,360 Speaker 1: the Dodgers on the last day of the season, they 1975 01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:31,839 Speaker 1: have to have a playoff, and that's the Bobby Thompson 1976 01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,400 Speaker 1: home run game in nineteen fifty one, and my dad's 1977 01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:36,800 Speaker 1: got the earpiece on his transistor radio in the lunch 1978 01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:40,599 Speaker 1: room because it's day games right then, and Thompson hits 1979 01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,160 Speaker 1: the home run and he got in trouble because he's 1980 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,559 Speaker 1: running around the cafeteria in front of all these Dodge 1981 01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:48,320 Speaker 1: fans because the Giants finally beat the Dodgers in nineteen 1982 01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:51,000 Speaker 1: fifty one, so he when they when they won, he 1983 01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:53,360 Speaker 1: soaked it up as much as he could. But yeah, 1984 01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:56,960 Speaker 1: just Willie Mays is like part of my youth because 1985 01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,160 Speaker 1: it was part of my dad's. So just seeing him 1986 01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,479 Speaker 1: turn ninety. It's it's kind of a cool deal because 1987 01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:03,120 Speaker 1: we've lost a lot of Hall of Famers in the 1988 01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,479 Speaker 1: last year. So good on Willie for hitting the big 1989 01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:10,720 Speaker 1: ninezero and starting his tenth decade of life. Was unbelievable 1990 01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:13,120 Speaker 1: to a difficult year for people. Great people we've lost 1991 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,839 Speaker 1: in our country, and not just due to the pandemic, 1992 01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 1: but also just for the passage of time. So I'm 1993 01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:20,360 Speaker 1: glad Willie Mays was not one of them. That's right, 1994 01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,040 Speaker 1: turning ninety today. Good good for him. On a much 1995 01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:26,559 Speaker 1: lighter note, Steve, I saw this and I had to 1996 01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,519 Speaker 1: bring it up. It is not related to sports in 1997 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:32,160 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, but we often see strange 1998 01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:35,200 Speaker 1: stories come out of three states, in particular in our 1999 01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:41,600 Speaker 1: fair country. It's usually Florida, Texas, or Ohio, and the 2000 01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:45,160 Speaker 1: latest comes out of Ohio. Steve and Ohio state Senator 2001 01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:49,519 Speaker 1: was taking part of this in a zoom call about 2002 01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:53,439 Speaker 1: distracted driving. The senators of this fair state are looking 2003 01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,760 Speaker 1: to pass a bill which will call for a ban 2004 01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:01,360 Speaker 1: on writing, sending or reading texts, viewings, are taking photos, 2005 01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:03,800 Speaker 1: live streaming, or using any kind of apps on your 2006 01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,720 Speaker 1: phone while driving. Seems to make sense. It's good, you know, 2007 01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:09,240 Speaker 1: sure put it into law. I like it was anything. 2008 01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:14,360 Speaker 1: Anything to distract, to prevent distracted driving. Anybody can get 2009 01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,519 Speaker 1: behind that prevents him accidents. It's perfect. So they've got 2010 01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:21,040 Speaker 1: six people on this zoom call and one guy has 2011 01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:23,800 Speaker 1: this strange thing like over his shoulder. It looks like 2012 01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:27,439 Speaker 1: a saddle bag. I don't know what it is he's 2013 01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,800 Speaker 1: got in his living room. So you know, it's it's peculiar, 2014 01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:34,480 Speaker 1: to say the least. We come to find out later, Steve, 2015 01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:39,360 Speaker 1: this is a fake background behind this man. And why 2016 01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:42,360 Speaker 1: has he put this fake background behind him? Because he 2017 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:47,760 Speaker 1: is participating in a zoom call while driving. He's so 2018 01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:51,400 Speaker 1: set that up. So here we go, passing legislation against 2019 01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:56,440 Speaker 1: distracted driving while on a zoom calling, a seatbelt driving 2020 01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,280 Speaker 1: down the road while driving, and to fool people, he 2021 01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:03,320 Speaker 1: puts a fake background behind him on his zoom background, 2022 01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:09,240 Speaker 1: except he forgets that he's wearing a seatbelt. There's always 2023 01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:13,280 Speaker 1: a detail you miss, don't always a detail that's missed? 2024 01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:18,200 Speaker 1: What dude, Yeah, he's in He's in deep yogurt on 2025 01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,840 Speaker 1: that one. Um. It's pretty funny because about two and 2026 01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:25,360 Speaker 1: a half minutes into the call, he picks up his phone, 2027 01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:30,520 Speaker 1: his videos cutting in and out um and he reappears 2028 01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:33,080 Speaker 1: on the screen wearing a seat belt with a background 2029 01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:37,520 Speaker 1: that looks like the antiar of his own AH, but 2030 01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:41,120 Speaker 1: spends the rest of the call driving. I'm telling you, man, 2031 01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,240 Speaker 1: what are you thinking? Like what it's a bad idea. 2032 01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:49,280 Speaker 1: It's just I don't know if you can get more 2033 01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,640 Speaker 1: hypocritical than that? Does that would that? Wouldn't that set 2034 01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:57,560 Speaker 1: alarms off in your head? Apparently not for this guy. 2035 01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:01,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I guess that that line would 2036 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:07,320 Speaker 1: kind of become more more e wouldn't it become more evident? 2037 01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:09,000 Speaker 1: It would be more than a line. We can't have 2038 01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:10,960 Speaker 1: a wall that would be there. Like if I'm gonna 2039 01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,960 Speaker 1: if I'm on this call talking about legislation that I'm 2040 01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:17,200 Speaker 1: responsible for passing, I've been some distracted driving. Just pull over, 2041 01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:22,200 Speaker 1: pull exactly, take the seatbelt off, pull over and sit 2042 01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:27,040 Speaker 1: there and have the call. You are flying directly into 2043 01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:30,520 Speaker 1: the face of this legislation. Can't that, just like expand 2044 01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:35,000 Speaker 1: your just doesn't set something off? Isn't there some little 2045 01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:37,360 Speaker 1: small switch in your control room that says, hey, we 2046 01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,280 Speaker 1: need this, we gotta take care of this' a warning 2047 01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:44,680 Speaker 1: light here. Yeah, were of this first. There's no warning light, 2048 01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:51,080 Speaker 1: no display that says hey, no detour sign. You're passing 2049 01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:54,680 Speaker 1: legislation against what you're doing. While you're passing the legislation. 2050 01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,760 Speaker 1: I wonder how he voted. Maybe he voted it down. 2051 01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:03,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it was all a protest. Maybe that's it. He 2052 01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:06,400 Speaker 1: voted it down. He voted it down, and it was 2053 01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:12,080 Speaker 1: on my own personal principles. I'm protesting this legislation. I'm 2054 01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:17,280 Speaker 1: voting against it. Oh my god, that's what we're missing. 2055 01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:20,840 Speaker 1: It was all a protest. I just can't believe he 2056 01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,920 Speaker 1: came on the screen with a fake background making it 2057 01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,000 Speaker 1: look like he's at home, but he's got this seat 2058 01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,240 Speaker 1: belt on. I mean, if you're if you're if you're 2059 01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,160 Speaker 1: not concerned at all about distracted driving, which he clearly 2060 01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:34,840 Speaker 1: isn't by virtue of what he's doing, why bother having 2061 01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:36,680 Speaker 1: the seat belt on, you might as well just go right, 2062 01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:38,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just go all the way 2063 01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:42,240 Speaker 1: with it? Why? And I get it too. Can't you 2064 01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:46,000 Speaker 1: see yourself? You see yourself on a zoom. This is true. 2065 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:50,560 Speaker 1: You didn't get the at least he could have done, 2066 01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:55,400 Speaker 1: was right like Miss America, Miss America across the belt. Right, 2067 01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,920 Speaker 1: So it's like a sas is just a sash. It's 2068 01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:01,280 Speaker 1: just my senator says at the key want us last night, 2069 01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:06,400 Speaker 1: and I'm something. You gotta gotta sell it better, sell 2070 01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:09,080 Speaker 1: it better something or put like a like it's now 2071 01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:12,640 Speaker 1: this is my Fannie pack or something. Oh, I got 2072 01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:14,840 Speaker 1: my saddle bag on. I'm gonna get going here in 2073 01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:20,080 Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, in my living room, I'm just about 2074 01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:23,280 Speaker 1: to hit out the door. I'm wearing my I'm wearing 2075 01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:27,280 Speaker 1: my Miss America costume. This is my sash, this one. 2076 01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:31,520 Speaker 1: I just some people just have it so backwards. I 2077 01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,680 Speaker 1: just I couldn't resist. I had to bring it up 2078 01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:37,400 Speaker 1: on the show today because that is just that's just 2079 01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:41,480 Speaker 1: so beautiful, so beautiful. It's that and such a horribly 2080 01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:46,000 Speaker 1: corrupt and disturbing right there makes the Internet all worth it. 2081 01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:53,600 Speaker 1: As we always say, Steve, the Internet is undefeated, completely busted, undefeated. 2082 01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:55,440 Speaker 1: It is undefeated. All right, we have to take a 2083 01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:57,600 Speaker 1: break because when we come back, we were gonna be 2084 01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:01,120 Speaker 1: joined by our colleague, Bills Report Maddie Maddie glab who's 2085 01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:04,400 Speaker 1: going to be going over the mock drafts that she 2086 01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:08,120 Speaker 1: compiled for the better part of four months to see 2087 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:12,720 Speaker 1: who the hell was right and who maybe was wrong. Well, 2088 01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:16,040 Speaker 1: it's pretty much the rest of them, anybody not with 2089 01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,280 Speaker 1: the given names that she's going to provide to us. 2090 01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:20,760 Speaker 1: When we returned here on One Bill's Live, presented by 2091 01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:35,600 Speaker 1: Kalaida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. I Got One Bills Live, 2092 01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:38,640 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Jasper, and joining us now is Bills 2093 01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:42,240 Speaker 1: reporter Maddie glab As. We have reviewed all things draft, 2094 01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:45,680 Speaker 1: so we've thought it only appropriate to review all the 2095 01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:48,800 Speaker 1: guesses that were made and just about every mock draft 2096 01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:53,160 Speaker 1: under the sun. So Maddie, who was diligent in compiling 2097 01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:56,200 Speaker 1: all of these over the course of the last four months, 2098 01:59:56,680 --> 02:00:00,400 Speaker 1: joins us now to share the results with us. And 2099 02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:06,040 Speaker 1: the hit rate, Maddie, was not exactly high, right, No, 2100 02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:09,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't high at all. When you look at who 2101 02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:13,160 Speaker 1: got some of these rights. I mean it wasn't until 2102 02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:19,360 Speaker 1: April that people started to mock Greg Russeau to the 2103 02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills at number thirty. And when I say April, 2104 02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:28,280 Speaker 1: I really mean like two days before the draft. The 2105 02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:31,680 Speaker 1: first person who actually got it right was an SB 2106 02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Nation writer who mocked Greg russo to the Buffalo Bills 2107 02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:39,880 Speaker 1: on March thirtieth, and he said that he was a 2108 02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:43,560 Speaker 1: devastating pass rusher in terms of what he can do 2109 02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:47,960 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, affecting offensive lineman and quarterbacks, 2110 02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:51,160 Speaker 1: and saying that Russo can adapt to almost any scheme 2111 02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:54,680 Speaker 1: and make an impact. He's comfortable working from the outside 2112 02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:57,720 Speaker 1: and inside, giving the Bills a defensive tool to rek 2113 02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:01,840 Speaker 1: havoc with. So this was March thirtieth when the first 2114 02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:06,720 Speaker 1: person actually got it. Before that, people were mocking Boogie 2115 02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Basham to the Buffalo Bills at number thirty. There were 2116 02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:14,440 Speaker 1: three times where Boogie Basham was mocked to the Buffalo 2117 02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Bills before Greg Russeau was actually mocked to the Buffalo Bills. 2118 02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:21,160 Speaker 1: I guess those guys were. And those people were kind 2119 02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:23,480 Speaker 1: of right too. I mean, he eventually got to us 2120 02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:27,080 Speaker 1: at sixty one, but you checked out a hundred and 2121 02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:30,800 Speaker 1: when it's finally over one hundred and fifty mock drafts, 2122 02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:35,600 Speaker 1: nobody got the first two picks right, not a single 2123 02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:39,000 Speaker 1: person right. They missed they some of them had one 2124 02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,400 Speaker 1: and not the other. Some of them even had Carlos 2125 02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Basham at sixty one to the Bills. But nobody had 2126 02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:48,960 Speaker 1: both those guys right, correct, Yeah, nobody had both of 2127 02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:52,240 Speaker 1: them right. And I mean, remember what Brandon Bean said 2128 02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:55,360 Speaker 1: when he spoke to the media after the draft was over. 2129 02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,839 Speaker 1: He said, if I were a betting man, I wouldn't 2130 02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:00,720 Speaker 1: have bet that we would have taken a pass rusher 2131 02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:03,440 Speaker 1: with the first round pick and the second round pick. 2132 02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:06,600 Speaker 1: So I'm sure all these people who are smart making 2133 02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:09,839 Speaker 1: their mock drafts, thinking Okay, Buffalo Bills needs the Buffalo 2134 02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:13,200 Speaker 1: Bills need an edge rusher or a corner weren't thinking, oh, 2135 02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:15,400 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills need an edge rusher, and then they're 2136 02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:18,320 Speaker 1: going to go after another edge rusher in the second 2137 02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:20,760 Speaker 1: round because Boogie Basham is still going to be around. 2138 02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:24,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, nobody got the first to right. And it 2139 02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:27,560 Speaker 1: really wasn't until I said April twenty seventh where people 2140 02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:31,200 Speaker 1: started actually mocking Greg Russo to the Buffalo Bills. It 2141 02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:35,640 Speaker 1: was Chris Simms from NBC Sports. Our friend Marcel Louis 2142 02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:40,920 Speaker 1: Jacques got it right, from ESPN, Yahoo Sports, Eric at 2143 02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Home got it right as well. And then we we've 2144 02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:45,480 Speaker 1: talked about it. We talked about it on the show 2145 02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Brownie and we were doing the draft shows Charles Davis 2146 02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:51,160 Speaker 1: also got it right. On April twenty eighth, he mocked 2147 02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:55,360 Speaker 1: Greg to the Buffalo Bills at number thirty. But yeah, 2148 02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:58,000 Speaker 1: there was only one person to do it before those 2149 02:02:58,120 --> 02:03:00,520 Speaker 1: four mock drafts came in right at the end before 2150 02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:03,640 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, And we should mention that Steve got 2151 02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:06,920 Speaker 1: it as he picked Greg Russo the day before the 2152 02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:10,160 Speaker 1: draft in our Wednesday show. So a late entry, but 2153 02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:12,920 Speaker 1: it counts nonetheless, and I think our producer Jay Harris 2154 02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:15,040 Speaker 1: is probably proud of the fact that four of the 2155 02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,440 Speaker 1: people on the list that we just had, we're on 2156 02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:20,000 Speaker 1: this very show before the draft. I don't think any 2157 02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:23,040 Speaker 1: of them picked Greg Russo. But we had Eric Dholm 2158 02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:25,000 Speaker 1: on the show. We had Charles Davis on the show, 2159 02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:28,800 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks on the show, and Chad Ruter, who did 2160 02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:33,520 Speaker 1: a seven round mock draft which included that Boogie Basham 2161 02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:36,760 Speaker 1: pick in the second round for the Bills. He had 2162 02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:39,040 Speaker 1: the Bills trading out of round one if I remember 2163 02:03:39,120 --> 02:03:42,120 Speaker 1: right down to like pick thirty five, right, Maddie, Yes, 2164 02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:45,600 Speaker 1: it was thirty five, and he had us choosing Buggy Basham. 2165 02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:49,240 Speaker 1: The funny thing is he also had us drafting Damar 2166 02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:53,160 Speaker 1: Hamlin from pits, so he's the only guy to get 2167 02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:56,480 Speaker 1: anything right out of the second round. He projected that 2168 02:03:56,560 --> 02:03:58,560 Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin was going to go to the Buffalo Bills 2169 02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:01,160 Speaker 1: with the one hundred and six, the first pick in 2170 02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:03,280 Speaker 1: the NFL draft. Okay, so he had him as a 2171 02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:05,560 Speaker 1: fifth round pick instead of a six, but still that's 2172 02:04:05,560 --> 02:04:08,360 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. What do you think the reason is that 2173 02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:11,080 Speaker 1: it was all the way up until the last minute 2174 02:04:11,080 --> 02:04:13,040 Speaker 1: where teams started to hone in it. Do you think 2175 02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:15,760 Speaker 1: it's things they learned about the draft picks or is 2176 02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:19,200 Speaker 1: it things they learned about the teams. I think it's 2177 02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:22,720 Speaker 1: things they learned about the teams. Honestly. Greg Russeau was 2178 02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:25,920 Speaker 1: a name that was being tossed around by our local 2179 02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:29,040 Speaker 1: media a couple weeks, two weeks a week before the 2180 02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:32,920 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and I think once one person who's credible 2181 02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:36,760 Speaker 1: enough picks a guy like Greg Russeau, then maybe other 2182 02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:40,040 Speaker 1: mock drafts tend to do so. I mean, Brownie, when 2183 02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:42,520 Speaker 1: you remember when we had Charles Davis on with us 2184 02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:44,240 Speaker 1: and we were like, yeah, you got the pick, right 2185 02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:46,000 Speaker 1: way to go, and he's like, I'm not going to 2186 02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:48,160 Speaker 1: take all the credit for it. There's a lot of 2187 02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:51,600 Speaker 1: people who are as smart as me or smart than me, 2188 02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:54,200 Speaker 1: who are doing these mock drafts and who have mentioned 2189 02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:56,840 Speaker 1: his name before I did, so I think it's a 2190 02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,320 Speaker 1: little bit of both. I mean, you look at edge rusher, 2191 02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:02,560 Speaker 1: it was definitely a need for the Buffalo Bills first 2192 02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:05,840 Speaker 1: round needs, second round need, who knows at that point 2193 02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:08,440 Speaker 1: before the NFL Draft started. But I think once that 2194 02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:11,440 Speaker 1: name started to be a hot name, other people wanted 2195 02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:13,960 Speaker 1: to choose it for their mock drafts as well. And 2196 02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:16,480 Speaker 1: just refresh my memory, Maddy, because I know we went 2197 02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:20,240 Speaker 1: over this, I think during the Draft special. But was 2198 02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,400 Speaker 1: running back the number one position picked to the Bills 2199 02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:25,400 Speaker 1: in round one or was it corner I can't remember. 2200 02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:28,800 Speaker 1: So if we go to the positions, the top positions 2201 02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:30,680 Speaker 1: out of those one hundred and fifty mock drafts that 2202 02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:35,760 Speaker 1: we that we looked up and counted, cornerback was the 2203 02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:38,960 Speaker 1: most mocked position to the Buffalo Bills at thirty seven. 2204 02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:42,040 Speaker 1: Edge rusher, though a close second number thirty six. Edge 2205 02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:45,240 Speaker 1: Rusher came on very strong towards the end of when 2206 02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:48,280 Speaker 1: I was tracking these so in April, edge rusher was 2207 02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:51,640 Speaker 1: such a popular position for the Buffalo Bills to select 2208 02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:55,640 Speaker 1: at number thirty. Running back running back was third twenty seven, 2209 02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:59,640 Speaker 1: and then linebacker an offensive tackle tied at sixteen for fourth, 2210 02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:02,600 Speaker 1: and the most popular name, guys, I know you're not 2211 02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:04,920 Speaker 1: shocked by this, but it was Travis et and he 2212 02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:08,600 Speaker 1: was mocked to the Buffalo Bills fifteen times, naj Harris ten. 2213 02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:11,560 Speaker 1: And then you have two corners at nine, and our 2214 02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:14,960 Speaker 1: first edge rusher to come in was Jason Oway being 2215 02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:17,640 Speaker 1: mocked to the Buffalo Bills at number nine. Yeah, and 2216 02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:19,840 Speaker 1: he was on the he was what did he go 2217 02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:22,560 Speaker 1: right after the Bills? I think he went right after 2218 02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:25,960 Speaker 1: the Bill? Yeah? Nine, he was yeah nine times people 2219 02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:30,400 Speaker 1: mocked him to us and Joe Tryon went two picks 2220 02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:32,800 Speaker 1: later to Tampa. So there was like a defensive end 2221 02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:35,320 Speaker 1: run right there where the Bills were picking. Yeah. And 2222 02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:38,440 Speaker 1: it was great too because somebody it was a draft 2223 02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:43,440 Speaker 1: at Trevor Sikima. Sakima had Carlos Basham coming to the 2224 02:06:43,480 --> 02:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Bills at sixty one, so he went deep and and 2225 02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:49,640 Speaker 1: got got better late in his mock draft rather than 2226 02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:52,640 Speaker 1: early in his mock draft. Carlos Basham still still on 2227 02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:55,320 Speaker 1: the board at sixty one, and the were you shocked 2228 02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:59,400 Speaker 1: by that? I I there's no way that's really hard 2229 02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:02,720 Speaker 1: to pick two edge rushers or to predict the Bills 2230 02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:05,280 Speaker 1: taking two edge rushers. And I think, you know, we're 2231 02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:07,120 Speaker 1: never gonna remember this next year when the mock draft 2232 02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:10,440 Speaker 1: season comes around. But that's why, man, oh man, it's 2233 02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:14,920 Speaker 1: dart thrown. It's dart throwing to the max as it 2234 02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:17,880 Speaker 1: really is. I think it's so interesting how some of 2235 02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:20,640 Speaker 1: these people can get it right, or how they craft 2236 02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:23,080 Speaker 1: their mock drafts. I mean, some of these people do 2237 02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:25,840 Speaker 1: seven round mock drafts, and once you get out of 2238 02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:28,800 Speaker 1: the third round, just like you said, it's like throwing 2239 02:07:28,880 --> 02:07:31,880 Speaker 1: darts to try and decide what position is going to 2240 02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:34,200 Speaker 1: be available, what players going to be available, what's a 2241 02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:36,880 Speaker 1: need for a team? You really have no idea how 2242 02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:39,080 Speaker 1: it's going to work out. The quarterbacks were such a 2243 02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:42,000 Speaker 1: big question going into the first round. You know, how 2244 02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:44,440 Speaker 1: quickly would those five come off the board. Would it 2245 02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:46,840 Speaker 1: be within the first ten picks or would it be 2246 02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,320 Speaker 1: beyond that. So there were a lot of question marks 2247 02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:51,840 Speaker 1: that were answered in the first round, which set up 2248 02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:57,560 Speaker 1: everyone's boards for second and beyond. Yeah, and already I 2249 02:07:57,640 --> 02:08:00,680 Speaker 1: know you're not surprised by this, Manny there are early 2250 02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:05,000 Speaker 1: predictions for an NFL mock draft twenty twenty two. Poor 2251 02:08:05,080 --> 02:08:08,800 Speaker 1: Todd McShay from ESPN was asked by his editor to 2252 02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:13,520 Speaker 1: put one together. I haven't seen the full list yet, 2253 02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:17,920 Speaker 1: but it's out there, so I'm not going to put 2254 02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:20,720 Speaker 1: any pressure on me. No, don't start tracking. Don't do that, 2255 02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:22,560 Speaker 1: get to work. We don't even know what order they're 2256 02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:25,800 Speaker 1: picking in yet. This is such a ridiculous exercise, the 2257 02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:29,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two mock draft in May of the year before. 2258 02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:34,440 Speaker 1: It's absolutely insane. But I guess people love them that much. Huh. Yeah. 2259 02:08:34,480 --> 02:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to jump on to track any mock 2260 02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:40,240 Speaker 1: drafts anytime soon. I remember the first one I tracked 2261 02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:44,680 Speaker 1: was January twenty second, because I have this all written 2262 02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:47,720 Speaker 1: down in the Excel spreadsheet that I keep a file of, 2263 02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:50,520 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking back to January twenty second, being 2264 02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:53,720 Speaker 1: like super sad about the Buffalo Bills losing the AFC 2265 02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:56,600 Speaker 1: Championship game, and being like, do I have to do 2266 02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:59,920 Speaker 1: this already? Is it already time to start tracking these 2267 02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:01,920 Speaker 1: mock drafts. I just want to be in the Super Bowl. 2268 02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:04,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to be thinking about mock drafts right now, 2269 02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:07,440 Speaker 1: so I hope by the time this comes around next 2270 02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:11,360 Speaker 1: year we'll be celebrating. We won't be tracking them until February. Yeah, 2271 02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:13,400 Speaker 1: And let me just say, I can't tell you how 2272 02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:15,920 Speaker 1: grateful I am that you did this, because that means 2273 02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't have to. I just see, just like our listeners, Maddie, 2274 02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:26,720 Speaker 1: I rely one on you, and you came through big 2275 02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,200 Speaker 1: time for us. This is an awesome it's an awesome 2276 02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:32,040 Speaker 1: set of stats, and thanks for coming on every week 2277 02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:35,800 Speaker 1: and helping us with it. What did you learn from 2278 02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:39,160 Speaker 1: this mock draft process? What you observed with all these guys. 2279 02:09:39,880 --> 02:09:42,440 Speaker 1: What was the biggest thing that moved the needle for 2280 02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:45,320 Speaker 1: these players and these and these teams in them in 2281 02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the eyes of the guys who mocked drafts. I mean, 2282 02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:52,520 Speaker 1: I learned that people are wrong. Travis Etn was the 2283 02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:55,760 Speaker 1: favorite name for the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills did 2284 02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:59,080 Speaker 1: not draft Travis Etn, nor did they draft Naja Harris. 2285 02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:02,520 Speaker 1: So people can be wrong. And cornerbacks started to come 2286 02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:06,400 Speaker 1: on strong towards the end too. But it's very interesting 2287 02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:09,520 Speaker 1: to think what a team will do based on if 2288 02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:12,760 Speaker 1: there were rumors going around, or if these rumors we 2289 02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:16,640 Speaker 1: had any truth to them or not any truth, because 2290 02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,000 Speaker 1: if you're really not in the building and you're not 2291 02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:23,760 Speaker 1: talking to Brandon Bean or the scouting department or coaches, like, 2292 02:10:24,400 --> 02:10:26,080 Speaker 1: how do you really know at the end of the 2293 02:10:26,160 --> 02:10:28,320 Speaker 1: day what they want to do? I mean, yes, you 2294 02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:32,440 Speaker 1: know positions of need. But the running back conversation, and 2295 02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Brandon even alluded to this when he spoke to the 2296 02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:38,360 Speaker 1: media after the NFL Draft. He was like, that conversation 2297 02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:41,640 Speaker 1: I think got taken out of context, and I could 2298 02:10:41,640 --> 02:10:44,240 Speaker 1: see that in the mock drafts with how much running 2299 02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:47,400 Speaker 1: back was mocked to the Buffalo Bills. He had that 2300 02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:51,800 Speaker 1: comment about not having a home run a hitter in 2301 02:10:51,920 --> 02:10:54,080 Speaker 1: terms of a running back in the running back room. 2302 02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:57,080 Speaker 1: But then he said afterwards, we still really believe in 2303 02:10:57,200 --> 02:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Zach Moss and Devin Singletary, and they just added Matt 2304 02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:03,680 Speaker 1: Breta to the roster and Antonio Williams is going to 2305 02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:06,520 Speaker 1: have a shot as well. So I just think it's 2306 02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:10,360 Speaker 1: interesting how some of these positions or players get taken 2307 02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:13,560 Speaker 1: out of context and people just run with it in 2308 02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:15,880 Speaker 1: terms of what shows up on the mock draft. That 2309 02:11:15,960 --> 02:11:18,240 Speaker 1: was the interesting thing for me when we were watching this, 2310 02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:22,360 Speaker 1: is that a scrap of information or one interview with 2311 02:11:22,400 --> 02:11:24,400 Speaker 1: a guy like Brandon being here in Buffalo, and he 2312 02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:27,000 Speaker 1: says that what he says about the running backs and 2313 02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:31,080 Speaker 1: the ripple effect that has across the league. You know too, 2314 02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:33,600 Speaker 1: think about this that every time a pick is on 2315 02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:35,480 Speaker 1: draft day, when that first pick is made, in the 2316 02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:37,320 Speaker 1: second when they start to get into the ones where 2317 02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:41,280 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna pick you know, Kyle Pitts. But 2318 02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:44,960 Speaker 1: if they don't, you know, that ripple effect of when 2319 02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:50,920 Speaker 1: a pick becomes unpredictable is so amazing all the way 2320 02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:53,560 Speaker 1: down through the rest of that round and beyond of 2321 02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:56,080 Speaker 1: which teams end up trading up and trading dad. The 2322 02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:59,720 Speaker 1: ripple effects of these picks, and also in our case, 2323 02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:02,080 Speaker 1: he just alluded to Brandon Beans saying that about the 2324 02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:05,360 Speaker 1: running backs, that had a ripple effect over the whole 2325 02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:10,120 Speaker 1: cottage industry of mock drafts. You saw it immediately because 2326 02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:12,040 Speaker 1: it was like running back was a favorite for a 2327 02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:14,360 Speaker 1: little bit, and then it cooled off and the cornerbacks 2328 02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:17,480 Speaker 1: were going super hot to the Buffalo Bills. And then 2329 02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:21,000 Speaker 1: after Brandon Bean made that comment, it was like running back, 2330 02:12:21,080 --> 02:12:24,280 Speaker 1: running back, running back, running back, running backs. So immediately 2331 02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:27,520 Speaker 1: he says something the mock drafts translate to what he 2332 02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:30,440 Speaker 1: said or what people thought that he meant from what 2333 02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:34,360 Speaker 1: came out of his mouth. Maddie, thanks, we're at a time. 2334 02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:36,480 Speaker 1: We appreciate it, and we'll catch up with you soon. 2335 02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:41,280 Speaker 1: That's Bills reporter Maddie Glad breaking down the mock drafts. 2336 02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Who was right? Who was wrong? Steve and I to 2337 02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:45,760 Speaker 1: close it up here next on one Bill's love was wrong? 2338 02:12:45,800 --> 02:13:02,520 Speaker 1: And who was wronger? What have we learned? Brought to 2339 02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:07,320 Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of 2340 02:13:07,400 --> 02:13:11,520 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Well, we learned that Bookie Bashan's a 2341 02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:15,000 Speaker 1: grinder today, Steve. He was able to give us about 2342 02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:17,200 Speaker 1: ten fifteen minutes on the air, nice enough to share 2343 02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:20,440 Speaker 1: some time with us after just finishing a field workout 2344 02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:24,400 Speaker 1: right down there in Virginia where he's spending his time 2345 02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:27,520 Speaker 1: before he comes back up here for rookie Minicamp. Yeah, 2346 02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:29,680 Speaker 1: he's going and after Rookie Minicamp headed down to a 2347 02:13:29,720 --> 02:13:33,840 Speaker 1: pass rush specialist in Florida. He's I wonder if him 2348 02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:35,880 Speaker 1: and Rousseau are going to the same guy. That's a 2349 02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:39,800 Speaker 1: good question. That's a good question, and it's interesting too 2350 02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:42,280 Speaker 1: because they will rush the passer even if they line 2351 02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:44,440 Speaker 1: up at the exact same place on different reps. They're 2352 02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:46,920 Speaker 1: going to rush the passer differently because of their physical gifts. 2353 02:13:47,360 --> 02:13:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Rousseau is so tall and long. Yeah, the 2354 02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:52,680 Speaker 1: things that he's able to do it as a pass 2355 02:13:52,760 --> 02:13:55,960 Speaker 1: rusher will vary greatly from what Bashian will do. It's interesting, though, 2356 02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:59,040 Speaker 1: I think we also learned that the Miami Dolphins may 2357 02:13:59,080 --> 02:14:01,360 Speaker 1: not be as big a word he has initially anticipated. 2358 02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:04,360 Speaker 1: Based on the comments of Armando Sell. This just in folks, 2359 02:14:04,360 --> 02:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Brownie is way down on the Fins today. I'm not 2360 02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm not against it, but I hear what he's saying. 2361 02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:13,600 Speaker 1: Friday Show is gonna be another banger. Tasker's teammate. Read 2362 02:14:13,640 --> 02:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Ferguson and your third round draft selection one Spencer Brown. 2363 02:14:18,200 --> 02:14:19,440 Speaker 1: We'll see it now and tomorrow.