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Speaker 2: How are you guys doing? We all right to start early? Corey, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you guys get.

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Speaker 1: To go go.

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Speaker 3: Ahead, Matt, Yeah, if there on.

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Speaker 2: Negotiation, Yeah, we have started negotiations.

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Speaker 1: We're talking.

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Speaker 2: I won't go into negotiations, like always is our stance.

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Speaker 1: Want brought to be our quarterback as.

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Speaker 2: Long as we're here and uh and beyond and and

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Speaker 2: there's no guarantees that we get something done, but my

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Speaker 1: So random what with his impact Brandon Staley?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we Brandon in for a reason because of

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Speaker 2: best year, but I think we saw just that. Brandon

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Speaker 1: And we really enjoyed the opportunity to work with him.

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Speaker 2: I think the Saints, you know, really got a good one,

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Speaker 2: good decision by Mickey and Kellen and everybody there, and

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Speaker 2: So Greece when he committed, you know, kind of an

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Speaker 2: had always had, Uh, you know, thought of of Greece man,

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Speaker 1: It's all all good. It was just a family decision

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Speaker 1: And Salah brought a great deal when he was last here.

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Speaker 2: I think he's even better now with the experiences he's had,

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Speaker 2: and it's a it's a welcome sight to have him back,

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Speaker 2: the energy that he brings, the expertise that he brings,

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Speaker 2: the leadership he brings. We're we're very happy to have

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Speaker 2: And I remember meeting with them in my backyard when

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Speaker 2: So then you wonder is this going to really hurt

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Speaker 2: But the encouraging thing is I start to look and

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of good football players.

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Speaker 2: Some could argue, are there the impact top end players

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Speaker 2: we're encouraged by that.

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Speaker 1: Start getting maybe a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit more clarity.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not those guys are fantastic players.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we have interest in bringing them back, and

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Speaker 2: to make that happen. Whether it does, I can't tell

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Speaker 2: you know, we've been in contact with them and their

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Speaker 3: Be where.

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Speaker 1: Love.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of love there, there's a

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Speaker 1: So to let that go, that's difficult.

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Speaker 2: But like I said, time happens, and you know, if

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Speaker 2: and like I said, everybody's on good terms and you know,

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Speaker 1: There's always the scenario. I've learned that as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I would tell you I think that the de

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Speaker 1: To being healthy. And we'll I think it'd be a

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Speaker 2: And we've we've had good discussions with Javon, you know

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Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, players one more time when we're on

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Speaker 3: Yeah that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the impact players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which you see that.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I I've learned in this deal is

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 2: But you know, our intention is to have a really

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Speaker 2: Yeah on the tush push, you know what. It is

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Speaker 2: want something to found it could because credit to the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: and congratulations to the Eagles, as hard as.

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Speaker 1: It is to say, respect, they had a.

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Speaker 2: and I congratulate them. They're fantastic at that play and

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Speaker 2: But I have my own feelings on that play, and

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Speaker 2: I long have It's it's it's.

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Speaker 1: Not real pretty to watch.

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Speaker 2: It's I think back to my playing days, and I

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Speaker 2: going to stop it, I'll stop it. That that kind

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Speaker 2: hope that's never the case. You know, the Competition Committee,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've been really impressed the way they go

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Speaker 2: about things. You know, you go right down the line,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about it, you know, for the game of football,

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Speaker 2: the aesthetics of it, but let's talk of it first.

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Speaker 1: And foremost has always health and safety.

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Speaker 2: And I think the early there's probably not enough significant

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Speaker 1: The dynamics of it.

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Speaker 2: And I think part of everyone involved job is to

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Speaker 1: And so that's something they're weighing.

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Speaker 2: There's great discussion, and you know, I think this that

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Speaker 2: lot of strong opinions on both sides.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, thanks guys. Okay, I can do it.

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