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Speaker 1: Jesse Tyler Ferguson is here. Hi, Jesse, I've all choked up.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at my friend who's just amongst all

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Speaker 2: these balloons in the corner.

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Speaker 1: Put her in the balloon corner. You will be there

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Speaker 1: all day, Rachel.

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Speaker 3: I hope I can find you afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Balloon saloon, They're everywhere. I love them. Well, Jesse, thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming in today.

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Speaker 3: Happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Well, so we can talk about many things. We could

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Speaker 1: talk about TV shows. We could have talked about Broadway plays.

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Speaker 1: We could talk about podcasts. Let's do all all of them.

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Speaker 1: Where do you want to start?

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Speaker 3: Wherever you want to start?

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Speaker 1: Let's okay. Well, podcast podcasts have been uh the topic

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Speaker 1: in our room for so long now, and now especially lately,

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Speaker 1: they're like, we're all heating up. I'm starting mine. I heard,

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Speaker 1: so here we go. Don't be so resisting. I love it.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: A long time.

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Speaker 2: I know this is ridiculous. He is really the track

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Speaker 2: marks on the floor where it's.

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Speaker 1: No I'll tell you what it is, and I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: you feel the same way. It's out of the comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: It's something that's different. Even though we interview people here

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Speaker 1: every day, it's a different.

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Speaker 2: Thing, like, we're really good at us. You should not

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Speaker 2: be worried. I have, like I can have some imposter

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Speaker 2: syndrome because this is not what I do. But you

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Speaker 2: having that is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Okay, slap me. I mean, I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 1: we interview people, but we have a clock ticking now

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Speaker 1: and we have to get things done by a certain time. Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: in the podcast world, you can.

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Speaker 2: Long form do whatever you want, and you can curse.

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Speaker 2: You can curse. Oh, absolutely anything you want. You could

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Speaker 2: do it pantless. I don't recommend it, right, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: You start. So after we're done with the show today,

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Speaker 1: will you stick around and do my podcasting?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that's why I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this is just like the you know, the appetizer, Okay,

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Speaker 2: the big event.

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Speaker 1: I like how I just like Coily set you up, Like, oh, sure,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the invitation to be on your podcast. It

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Speaker 1: was already planned. It was already planned you guys. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about on Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so you did mention to someone. It is a little

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Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone, but you enjoy pushing the boundaries.

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Speaker 2: I too, I've had this career that I'm very lucky

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Speaker 2: I have never imagined going. I thought I was just

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Speaker 2: going to be a theater actor, and then I got

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to come to LA and be a part

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Speaker 2: of a show. This is actually before Modern Family, and

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Speaker 2: I was doing some TV work and I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: I was asked to be the host of HGTV's reboot

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Speaker 2: new Tie Pennington. I was like, well, this doesn't make

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Speaker 2: any sense, but if someone thinks that I'd be good

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Speaker 2: at this, like, let's try it. I had a great

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Speaker 2: time doing that, you know, I just I keep getting offered.

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Speaker 2: The Cocaine Bear is a perfect example. Who would have

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Speaker 2: ever thought let's put the guy from Modern Family up

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Speaker 2: coked up bear. Not me, but someone thought that was

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Speaker 2: That's honestly been I feel like you're asking me these

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Speaker 1: I love that. So it's dinner on me.

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Speaker 3: Dinner's on me.

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Speaker 1: Ye, dinner's on me. So I'm assuming there's restaurants involved. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I it's you're interested in interviewing this person in a

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Speaker 1: Well, it's your opportunity to get to know someone new.

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Speaker 2: I'm all about, you know, if they're willing to talk

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Speaker 1: So is it about food and I mean going out

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Speaker 1: That was another concept we were thinking about in podcast world.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about interviewing since this is a new

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Speaker 1: So many people ever died to come in and say

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Speaker 1: They only made you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just stick around.

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Speaker 1: Do it, do it? Get smokey. Jesse Tyler Ferguson. It's

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