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Speaker 1: What Is Up?

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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast. Technically, at the time of recording, the Mets

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Speaker 2: have not finished up a series, but we know the

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Speaker 2: Mets have won the series against the San Francisco Giants,

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Speaker 2: taking the first two of three. The reason I'm introing

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Speaker 2: this is because I'm actually playing in a baseball game

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Speaker 2: for charity out in Portland against the Portland Pickles. So

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Speaker 2: James is going to be doing the Game three recap

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Speaker 2: all by himself. Fled a little solo, all right.

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Speaker 3: There's still gonna be a bigger Game three recap in

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Speaker 3: a little while later in the episode, but I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to come out quickly at the beginning because Wow,

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Speaker 3: that was such a sick game and sweep, big sweep,

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Speaker 3: awesome sweep, and Ronnie Marisio Ronimerso put the team on

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Speaker 3: his back. It's so cool to watch this guy in

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Speaker 3: the raw talent, like the crazy potential that he has.

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Speaker 3: It's like the second or third time this season he's

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Speaker 3: fully taken over a game. That home run off Randy

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Speaker 3: Rodriguez was just so ridiculously insane, like the way he

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Speaker 3: got his hands inside that slider put the ball into

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Speaker 3: the cove like willing affair. Kyl Raviach kind of ruined

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Speaker 3: it with a really bad call and starting that baseball,

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Speaker 3: but that's neither here nor there.

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Speaker 2: Can't do anything about it.

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Speaker 3: But just so crazy to see that from Ryan Risio

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Speaker 3: first four hit game of his career.

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Speaker 2: All four of those balls were hard hit balls.

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Speaker 3: He put his ops from his six seventy to his

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Speaker 3: seven to sixty in just the one game, only came

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Speaker 3: one bait short of a cycle.

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Speaker 2: I really wish he would have pushed that double to

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Speaker 2: a triple late just to see what could have happened.

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Speaker 2: But just wow.

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Speaker 3: Oh, also cute as hell after the game where he

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Speaker 3: said he actually wanted everything, Solo said it that Ronnie

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Speaker 3: really wanted to put the ball into mcovy cove in

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Speaker 3: the fact that he actually did that, And it's just

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Speaker 3: like Marisio and Alvarez really drove this game early on,

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Speaker 3: like being the guys to the bomb and the order

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Speaker 3: they got us the first round with the back to

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Speaker 3: back doubles.

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Speaker 2: Seeing Alver's got a couple more hard hit balls is great.

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Speaker 3: And then of course can't even like say anything else

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Speaker 3: by mentioning Solo hitting the go ahead home run while

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Speaker 3: the Giants fans chanted overrated, which is really really funny.

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Speaker 3: Also another home run off Randy Rodriguez. He had like

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Speaker 3: one or two total home runs this whole season, given

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Speaker 3: up heading into this game. He's like pound for pound, truthfully,

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent honestly one of the best relievers in baseball.

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Speaker 3: So it's sick and now seeing like little like friendship

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Speaker 3: forming between Solo Maricio as cute as hell too, both

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Speaker 3: like talking about each other in their postgame press conferences,

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Speaker 3: Solo saying that he's been like spending a lot of

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Speaker 3: time with Ronnie loves them, like the adjustments, the improvements

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Speaker 3: he's made recently. It's that cool like veteran rookie vibe

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Speaker 3: that you like to get in a team like this,

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Speaker 3: you get towards this part of the season. But also

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Speaker 3: it's like really easy to forget that they're only like

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Speaker 3: two and a half years apart in age, which is

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Speaker 3: really funny. But all right, back to the regular show.

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Speaker 3: I got more Game three stuff, like they got some

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Speaker 3: saying I got some gregor so though, lots of good nuggets.

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Speaker 2: Back to the regular show real quick. But the first

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Speaker 2: two games of this series able to watch, able to

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Speaker 2: see while we're recording this, and a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 2: Was a great start to the series out in San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: Mets playing good baseball, mar Fiano swinging the bat, Team

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Speaker 2: Steel and Basses playing good ball. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: everything as we always do, as well as the Gregory

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Speaker 2: Soto acquisition. We haven't gotten a chance to talk to

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Speaker 2: you guys about it. Me and James have opinions, you

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Speaker 2: guys want to hear them, So let's get going into it.

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Speaker 2: download and subscribe. James, how we doing. How's how's midnight

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Speaker 2: Mets been treating you? Because over here it's just it's

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Speaker 2: just seven pm. That's it's not crazy like mid Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel bad for you.

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Speaker 3: You've lost a one weekend of midnight mess this season

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Speaker 3: because the midnight Mets in New York have been fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Two really well played games, two fun games, kind of

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Speaker 3: a blowout win on Friday, a tight like now win

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Speaker 3: on Saturday where it was like nice, it's a fun thing.

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Speaker 2: You also buried the lead a little bit.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the Louis Tropert Mark Fiantis rumors.

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Speaker 3: That's a huge story. We're going to get to that.

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Speaker 3: Don't think, don't think that wall?

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Speaker 2: Is that it?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Is that a real rule?

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Speaker 3: I just sat it with his mouth. Oh I think

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Speaker 3: I think stream.

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Speaker 2: Oh I missed that part. Shout out wardy forgetting that

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Speaker 2: little scoop. Oh yeah, that's that's really important. Let's definitely

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Speaker 3: Quick on the first two games, and like Mark said,

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Speaker 3: I'm the I'm in the channel, my Mike, Francesca, Colin

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Speaker 3: Cowherd just do a little solo talking about Game three

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Speaker 3: when that's overstudying that baseball. Thank you for the ESPN for

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Speaker 3: flexing that and uh and not allow the Mark and

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Speaker 3: I'd have to section off this podcast.

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Speaker 2: But the two games were great.

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Speaker 3: We got good starting pitching, first from Clay Holmes and

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Speaker 3: then from David Peterson, both in their own weird, unique

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Speaker 3: funny ways where they both gave up heaps of hard contact,

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Speaker 3: nobody got strikeouts. Everything found gloves and everything worked out

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Speaker 3: perfectly in the end. And I think that there was

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Speaker 3: some weird fear about how the game began for Clay

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Speaker 3: Holmes because like Elio Romas, Rathfaeld Devers, Willia Domas, like

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Speaker 3: everyone was all over from from basically the first pitch

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Speaker 2: Where we're just like.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of gritting his teeth and getting his way

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Speaker 3: was hilariously like the next is the whole Clayholmes experiment

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know, it's kind of like there's been a lot

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Speaker 2: I think the best thing to do is just keep

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Speaker 2: riding this out. Yeah, I am a firm believer, and

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Speaker 2: I loved it in the moment. They needed Clay Holmes

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Speaker 2: I think that was huge for Clay Holmes. I think

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Speaker 3: That's probably not something you do if it's a one runner,

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Speaker 3: even a two run games, your Carls Mendoza. But the

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Speaker 3: just like, yeah, this and we need this ending right now.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the question is now with Clay

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Speaker 3: Hoolmes is going to come his next scheduled start, which

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Speaker 3: which would be on regular rest. After he just threw

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Speaker 2: Once a month. Maybe that's just the whole thing. Clay

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Speaker 2: Holmes can do one hundred paches once a month. Well.

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Speaker 2: they talked him about going over one hundred pitches, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: When you're winning by so much, you don't want to

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Speaker 3: so that we got to start, like we got start

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Speaker 3: giving more descriptions.

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Speaker 2: And when we say the word so though.

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Speaker 3: Now they camp with Mets, didin' think of think of

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Speaker 3: the podcasters and they made this trade unbelievable by them,

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Speaker 2: Sleepy sterns at it again, didn't think of us. It's

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Speaker 2: also the Clay Holmes, like we mentioned, just the bad

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Speaker 2: the ball quality against them, Like sure everything was hit hard,

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Speaker 2: Eleven of the eighteen balls and player were on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Just like when you have that when the quality of

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Speaker 3: always happens to Clay Holmes rallies, just a few of

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Speaker 3: the ground balls find their way through holes and likes

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Speaker 3: happened a lot with Clay Hoolmes.

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 3: The velocity did dip through the middle innings. He threw

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Speaker 3: one sinker right at ninety but also his last few

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Speaker 3: if he's there, it's it's fine again. So I also,

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Speaker 3: I'm at this point where I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: is shaping up right now, They're like, why not just

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Speaker 3: trade for a star there and put Clay Homes back

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Speaker 3: in the bullpen. I don't know if I want this

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Speaker 3: don't know if I want this version of Clay Holmes,

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Speaker 3: Like I think if Clay Holmes tapers down and he

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Speaker 2: For the rest of forward. The fact that the mess

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think coming into the game he had

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Speaker 2: I was watching the game on the plane, couldn't believe

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Speaker 2: web like, fly it into a new city. It's a

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Speaker 3: So that so, while Keith was really unplumbing, all that

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Speaker 3: webrand the web like twice No, yes, that was funny.

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Speaker 3: One that would really super killed me. But in that

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Speaker 3: Zero of them were blow the belt and most of

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Speaker 3: But I think another thing that the Mets did while

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Speaker 3: on base. He's not like guy like David Peterson. Actually,

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Speaker 3: in terms of baseball savants like net base is prevented,

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Speaker 3: He's number one. He's the best pitchers here holding runners

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Speaker 3: on It's it's amazing the leads that hitters get on

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Speaker 3: This baseball leader the boards amazing on Web even for

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Speaker 3: a right handed picture, his lead against him was about

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Speaker 3: Stolen base his entire season, especially with him and the

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Speaker 3: we're stealing NonStop. Anton Richardson was calling out these tails

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Speaker 3: Was Tyrone Taylor. We were getting these running leads out

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Speaker 3: It's like it was just go, go go, and that's

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Speaker 2: Really worked to our advantage. Yeah, old school baseball head,

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Speaker 2: They made him feel uncomfortable. It's a rare moment, and

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Speaker 2: especially logan Web is a head case. This guy is

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Speaker 2: the sneakiest suspension ever in the minor leagues that no

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Speaker 3: What do you think looks better for logan Web for

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Speaker 3: over the next five years. I oh, man, PDS, I

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Speaker 2: Feel like if you're this far past the PD spen,

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Speaker 3: And great to see it from again. Antoine Richardson, who's

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Speaker 3: marks and stolen bases, especially stolen base efficiency. He's turned

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Speaker 2: He's he's a brand Nemo runs like a fullback.

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Speaker 3: He's the US Brandon wants to turn while he's running,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna take twenty five minutes to do it. But

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Speaker 3: But what Richardson's done and understanding the tells of every

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Speaker 3: a top ten team this year in terms of raw

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Speaker 3: volume stolen bases, and that's while based on Baseball Savant,

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Speaker 3: we are the second slowest team in the league on

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Speaker 3: average spit speed. It's will least be able to do

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Speaker 3: with these guys running on the basis is so cool.

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Speaker 3: And you see the flip side this with the Giants,

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Speaker 3: where they've stolen two bases this month at a time

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Speaker 3: when their offense is kind of it's there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of good players in this Giants lineup, but they're struggling

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Speaker 3: for a spark and they're struggling to string things together.

448
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Speaker 3: Would be a great time to try and steal some

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Speaker 3: bases here and there, which is funny because you Buster

450
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Speaker 3: plays in charge. I feel like he would be on

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Speaker 3: top of these things. But it's it's crazy how much

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Speaker 3: of a difference him as a first base and outfield

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Speaker 3: coach has made this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved I loved your little tweet threw up

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Speaker 2: on Mets up with the best first base coach in

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Speaker 2: baseball history, and then I thought it was super funny

457
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Speaker 2: seeing some of the old heads reply being like, what

458
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Speaker 2: about you don't remember this guy? And it's like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, like this is a tweet. We gotta relax.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean the intern was buzzing this weekend. That

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Speaker 3: messed up Twitter was on fire.

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Speaker 2: But also on the other side of that too.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to disparage anybody used to be in

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Speaker 3: this organization, so I'm not gonna say names, but you

465
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Speaker 3: guys can connect some dots. Remember when we were spring

466
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Speaker 3: training few years ago when we worked with the Mets

467
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Speaker 3: and we saw like some of the outfield drills that

468
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Speaker 3: were going on, and we saw specifically Tommy fam who

469
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Speaker 3: we know left his team in a huff and afterwards

470
00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,159
Speaker 3: complained about preparation everything that was going on internally. And

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Speaker 3: then seeing a guy like Antwine Richardson, who won is

472
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Speaker 3: the first base coach, is a marvel. He's fristiculously good too.

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Speaker 3: Seeing someone like Jeff McNeil makes tries in the outfield.

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Speaker 3: We know that some marks Abos had some interesting takes

475
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Speaker 3: and sends this year at their base, but like watching

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Speaker 3: Brett Baty play second, so it feels like there's such

477
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Speaker 3: an influence the improvements of Felons and like working with

478
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Speaker 3: Mark Vanto's as the first basement. The influence of this

479
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,600
Speaker 3: coaching staff is incredible. Desi Dreuchelle. We heard them get

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Speaker 3: shout out by Francisco Lindoor the other day talking about

481
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Speaker 3: Greg Rusolo coming in. We heard this major bomb assistant

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Speaker 3: pitching coach mentioned by the star player after a middle

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Speaker 3: a relatively high leverage middle reliever was traded for.

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Speaker 2: It's like what that's like. That's like not shit that

485
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Speaker 2: most teams have to go with.

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Speaker 3: So it's so cool that we talk about all the time,

487
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Speaker 3: like the synergy, hate to use that word, but the

488
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Speaker 3: cohesion with this coach extaven front office, like it's it's

489
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Speaker 3: a major advantage I feel like we have over a

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Speaker 3: lot of other teams that does not get talked about enough.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, like was it a week ago when Mendoz

492
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Speaker 2: made those crazy decisions with Korea and stuff? Mean, you

493
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,240
Speaker 2: were both like I don't see the vision, like where, yeah,

494
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Speaker 2: where's the process? And now in a game like that

495
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Speaker 2: we've seen the last two against the Giants like fuck yeah,

496
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Speaker 2: Like that's the process. That's what we've been waiting for.

497
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Speaker 2: That's when we and it's probably not fair too, because

498
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Speaker 2: we picked a game that they lost in two games

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Speaker 2: that they want. We got shift to last out. We're

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Speaker 2: fans too, Yeah, sometimes we gotta lash out. But also,

501
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Speaker 2: like I think it was evident the process of what

502
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Speaker 2: this team is built on, what this team is attempting

503
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Speaker 2: to do, that's what good baseball team is doing. The

504
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Speaker 2: Metal are a good baseball team.

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Speaker 3: Percent and even just like the way this game started,

506
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Speaker 3: like we kind of glossed over that logan web first inning,

507
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Speaker 3: but just like Lindor and Nimo getting on base, and

508
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Speaker 3: then just like we talked about Murphy last week, the

509
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Speaker 3: situation awareness of Solo and Alonso two run scoring outs.

510
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Speaker 3: I was like, yes, I was so pumped up, amazing

511
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Speaker 3: for run scoring outs there. And then the way you're

512
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Speaker 3: able to extend this lead Rico Garcia, shoutout, Rica Garcia.

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Speaker 2: I'm so I go happ these back, but him and

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Speaker 2: the rest of this middle relief holding the lead and

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Speaker 2: check that allows you to move to a game now

516
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Speaker 2: on Saturday that you know what's going to be another

517
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Speaker 2: tough fall affair because you're facing another really good picture

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Speaker 2: in Robbie Ray. You have your horse on the mount.

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Speaker 3: David Pewson, but the mixture of Rico Garcia and Jose

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Speaker 3: Castillo and not letting things anything happened Gricarsia especially heaps

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Speaker 3: of credits Rico Garcia, glob of chaos legend. But then

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Speaker 3: to get to the game on Saturday, in a tough, fought,

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Speaker 3: tooth and nail baseball game that truthfully you have almost

524
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Speaker 3: no business winning whatsoever, to then be able to have

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Speaker 3: a well rested Red Garrett a Ryan Stanek who seems

526
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Speaker 3: like he's finally turning the corner just a teeny tiny bit,

527
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Speaker 3: and then hand the ball to Edwin Diaz for Pilonzo

528
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Speaker 3: to make it the game saving play.

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Speaker 2: It's just like wow.

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Speaker 3: Like the win, the good win on Friday, the fruits

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Speaker 3: of that carryover to the tight win on Saturday. That's

532
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Speaker 3: how you're able to win both games have a chance

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Speaker 3: because again we haven't gone there yet. I'll give you,

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Speaker 3: guys the solo the solo recap for that. In a

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Speaker 3: second win, a serious against a good team in their

536
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Speaker 3: home ballpark, like those little tiny things or what adds

537
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Speaker 3: up to make yourself a good baseball team? Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: even more, on top of it, you got Mark Viiento's

539
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Speaker 3: who according to Twitter, keeps boosting his trade value as

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Speaker 3: he keeps getting these big hits for the Mets late

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Speaker 3: in these games.

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Speaker 2: Mark Fiento's came through. That's what the Mark Fiento's we

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Speaker 2: need to see. Do we have a swing speed on

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Speaker 2: what that was? Because I got a feel and he

545
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Speaker 2: swang harder than he does all year seventy three and

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Speaker 2: a half. Not really, but that is faster by three.

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Speaker 3: Still by that it's also still not considered like the

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Speaker 3: fast wing which is over seventy five miles now, which

549
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: is where he sat last year. It was also the

550
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 3: hardest hit ball in this game. And get Mark's talking

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Speaker 3: about the two run double off of Robby Ray in

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Speaker 3: the sixth inning after the Mets had fallen.

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Speaker 2: Just got a mash lefties. That's it. Like, if he

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Speaker 2: can just mash lefties, he has values to this team.

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Speaker 2: But until he does that, I can is enough rate.

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Speaker 2: You know, we still have our doubts. We canna talk

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Speaker 2: about the possible trade right now. Is how we're gonna

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Speaker 2: do it. Let's do it. Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, how much we want to do now?

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if I want to make contact

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Speaker 2: Just hang out Bob Nightingale.

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Speaker 3: Have a beer with Bobby, A few beers with Bob

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Speaker 3: Knightingal se where the night takes us. But this is

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Speaker 3: any trade for Louis Robert from the Mets. I know

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Speaker 2: You see what I'm doing? What are you doing. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'll take them to the South Side. I understated. I

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Speaker 2: think like we can have that conversation of the the value, right,

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Speaker 2: Mark Viento says, what four four full seasons left, Let's

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Speaker 2: just say four full seasons. Who cares about the halfiard thing? Right?

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Speaker 2: Four full seasons left under team control. And he's never

607
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Speaker 2: really gonna make a ton of money just because he

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Speaker 2: doesn't put up those numbers like that. He's never going

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Speaker 2: to He's never gonna be a war guy. We know

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Speaker 2: that arbitration pretty much tracks to war now, Like, he's

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Speaker 2: never gonna be a high war guy. So he's gonna

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Speaker 2: be pretty cheap for the next four years. If you

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Speaker 2: have the Mark Vientos of last year, that's that's valuable,

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Speaker 2: that's unbelievably valuable to have that player for four years.

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Speaker 2: You have the Mark Vinzos of this year, he has

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Speaker 2: no value. He hurts the team. You have the in between,

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Speaker 2: which is I think where's a fair place to be

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Speaker 2: of Mark Vantos is not twenty twenty four, he's not

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. He is probably a seven to fifty

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Speaker 2: ops guy who has the ability to hit twenty five

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Speaker 2: to thirty home runs a year.

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Speaker 3: Thing's gone right, right, that was the twenty twenty four guy.

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Speaker 3: He's just exactly described. No, he had like an eight

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Speaker 3: to fifty ops. He was much better that last year,

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Speaker 3: and he hit like two seventy last year. Mark Vanto's

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Speaker 3: ops was I don't think it was eight fifty is

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Speaker 3: no way?

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Speaker 2: Oh it was eight thirty seven. Yeah, I guess what

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Speaker 2: I was saying. Yeah, he is what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 2: I'm picking the in between, Like, we're still gonna see

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Speaker 2: the home run power numbers hopefully, even though we technically

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Speaker 2: haven't even seen that at all this year. So maybe

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Speaker 2: that's maybe he's more of a twenty home run guy.

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Speaker 2: But does that change the conversation then? I just think

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Speaker 2: that for a Mets team, and I think Major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball feels very open this year. I know the National

637
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: League still runs through the Dodgers, but the Dodgers have

638
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Speaker 2: shown that they are very much a human baseball team.

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Speaker 2: Mookie Betts, the way that he's playing, Freddy Freeman slowed

640
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Speaker 2: down a little bit. Otani's unbelievable, Will Smith unblievable. That

641
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Speaker 2: team is still the best team in baseball, and it

642
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Speaker 2: you go through the Dodgers if you're gonna win the

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Speaker 2: World Series. But I just everything in my gut, in

644
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Speaker 2: my heart tells me that I think Luis Robert could

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Speaker 2: be sessed. But as like, when they make a trade

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Speaker 2: for him, you bring him in. He's gonna play elite

647
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Speaker 2: center field defense, which is not something that we need.

648
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Speaker 2: But that's a bonus at the absolute worst. I keep

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Speaker 2: saying this, he is better than Tyrone Taylor. He is

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Speaker 2: a better player than Tyrone Taylor, and that center field

651
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Speaker 2: defense alone might be more valuable to this Mets team

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Speaker 2: than Mark Vientos's right now, especially with how this roster

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00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: is constructed. On top of it, the change of scenery

654
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: for Luis Robert. I can't stress enough how much it

655
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: must have fucked with his head. Where he gets called up,

656
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 2: he's a superstar instantly. The White Sox are incredibly successful.

657
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 2: This looks like a team that he's gonna be a

658
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 2: part of for years and years to come. They're gonna

659
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: have success. That a great manager. Then Tony LaRussa comes in,

660
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: then they start playing like shit, and all of a sudden,

661
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: Luis Robert just a sheer three four years later, looks around.

662
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 2: Is not only on the worst team ever in Major

663
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: League Baseball, but he also goes, where are all my friends?

664
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: Where did all my guys go? I'm playing with Andrew

665
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: Benn and Tendi every day. This guy stinks. Andrew Vaughn's

666
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: getting reps at first base every single day and he's

667
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: got a thirty eight WRC plus. Like, what is going on?

668
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: What happened to this team? I don't love that that

669
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: could be a reason why he's playing poorly, But at

670
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: the same time, I would love to be the team

671
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: that gives Luis Robert a chance to prove that he

672
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: still has something left in the tank, because the top

673
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: end talent that he has is most impossible to find,

674
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: and that top end talent for a guy like Mark Vientos,

675
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: to me, it's a no brainer.

676
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: Well, then the flip side of this is that you

677
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: said something left in the tank. That's a weird conversation

678
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: to have about a twenty seven year old. For sure

679
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: easier I think he's.

680
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: Turning twenty actually, like within the next month.

681
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 3: But that's the part that to me that's weird, because

682
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: how how good does l Louis Robert have to play for?

683
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: The rest of this season to warrant picking up a

684
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: twenty million dollar option. I can't really figure out that line, because.

685
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh I can figure it out easily. How good seven

686
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: to fifty ops and you think twenty mil? I mean,

687
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: I feel like this front offense for that defense, and

688
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: a guy who showed like like seven fifty and I

689
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: think he'll be better than that. I truly do think

690
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: he'll be better than a seven fifty OPS. But setting

691
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: realistic expectations, I think that's the line of if he

692
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: can be a seven fifty OPS guy who's gonna give

693
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: you twenty five home runs a year with elite center

694
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: field defense, how different is that than Mark Vientos and

695
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: playing bad defense at third base position. We don't need

696
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: him at where he's truly a first baseman.

697
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: The difference to twenty million dollars verus the team control,

698
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: which is why I do think four people problems what

699
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: you're saying, Yeah, but that's not how the front offices think.

700
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: You know that, like that's your thing.

701
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: That's how I think. That's what I'm saying.

702
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: So I think that there's a big part of this

703
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: trade conversation, which is why like, for some reason, also

704
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: Mark Fanzo was slowly for Dylan Cees because it's the

705
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: idea that you could get four years of someone that

706
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 3: could be fine, solid, even good at times, for what

707
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 3: could be just fifty games of it. Because I don't know,

708
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: I don't know how likely the Mets would be to

709
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: pick up that Robert option unless he goes eight. Because like,

710
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: how many center fields you have made twenty million dollars

711
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 3: right now?

712
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: You know, like you not many? But Harrison Bader to

713
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: get paid like twelve, and we did pay Harrison Bader

714
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: ten million last year. And Harrison Bader, while he's having

715
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: a good year offensively, has never even come close to

716
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: the heights offensively of Luis Robert. And defensively, better is better.

717
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: There's no doubt he had Robert's never reached his heights.

718
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: But I think the say I think the defensive gap

719
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: is a lot closer than the offensive gap is so

720
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: for me, I think, honestly, even if he is like

721
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: a seven fifty ops guy or wherever, I think, you

722
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: give him the one team option and then you see

723
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: again what happens next year. I don't really think it's

724
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: nearly as bad as people are making it out to be.

725
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: For a guy who could be such a difference maker.

726
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: Like I, I just think he changes his team so much.

727
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: I don't think so either.

728
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: And I also will give you some contract comparisons right

729
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: now to kind of let this let people think see

730
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: what twenty million dollars does get for an outfielder on

731
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 3: the open market. So this past year, Tyler O'Neil, who

732
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: has like a six to fifty ops, he signed a

733
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: three year, fifty million dollar deal sixteen million a year.

734
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't play center field. That was okay, letnna

735
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: keep going.

736
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: Michael Gonfourth this year signed a one year, seventeen million

737
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: dollar deal for the Dodgers, and he's been one of

738
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: the worst hittististically in baseball. Av you, James, thank you

739
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: for the Anthony Santander, who a lot of people wanted

740
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: them has signed the season. He's been maybe one of

741
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: the worst players in professional baseball this season. The Blue

742
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: Jays waited each the blue Jays waited until he went

743
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: out to actually get hot. They've been only good this

744
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: year when Anthony Sons down there has not been on

745
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: the field in their lineup. Five years, ninety two million,

746
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 3: eighteen and a half million a year. Everyone's favorite you know,

747
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: Dominican uncle Starling Marty the last year of his four year,

748
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: seventy eight million dollar contract right now for nineteen and

749
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: a half million dollars a year. So there could be

750
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: just a pure money swap of Mets outfielders next year,

751
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: right handed Mets outfielders of Starling Marte and Luis Robert

752
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: for that twenty million dollars. Nick Costeanos one more year

753
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: on his five year, one hundred million dollar contract. Brandon

754
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: Nemo makes twenty million dollars a year, which actually I

755
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: think a pretty good deal still, all things considered, great

756
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: deal Ian half three for sixty, which would be less

757
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: than two for forty for m for Robert. George Springer

758
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: is still working down for the twenty five million dollar year.

759
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: Cody Bellinger has a similar option that Canner cannot be

760
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: picked up by the Yankees.

761
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: I think he's a lot better than Louise Robert.

762
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: I will say that, of course, not just significantly better,

763
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: But then those two guys are in the market at

764
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: the same time. It's like the twenty million dollars I

765
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: think isn't great. I think in the context of some

766
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: other outfielders who have signed some free agent contracts the

767
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: last few years, I don't think it's that crazy of

768
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: a number. Jerks and profar a three year, forty two

769
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: million dollar deal.

770
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: He had one good year ever, and he was fucking cheating.

771
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was juicing, And like, I think this back

772
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: to ten million dollars, That's what I'm saying.

773
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: That's it's like, I don't think the twenty million is

774
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: that big. And of course, the crux of this conversation,

775
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: along with the value thing, is truly if he hits,

776
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: If Luis Romera continues to be the player that he

777
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: has been the last two seasons, he's gone. But that's

778
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: also to me, I'm willing to take the risk. I

779
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: don't know. I just I don't see I don't see

780
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: the excitement of Mark Viento's like a lot of other

781
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: people do. And I'm a super negative guy on him.

782
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: I have been. I hate to be that guy. I

783
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: thought he proved me wrong last year, and then he

784
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: did this again this season. I was like, all right, well, like,

785
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: at some point, when do we just think he is

786
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: that player? And truthfully, if we sent him off to Chicago,

787
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: I hope he fucking goes off. I hope, I hope

788
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: he's a three time All Star. I hope he's a

789
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: franchise player for them. I don't wish bad things for him.

790
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: I just don't think that the way that this Mets

791
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 2: seems operate, and I think operating for the future, it

792
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense to covet Mark Viento's, which

793
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of Met fans. We don't

794
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: know what the front office is doing, but coveting Mark

795
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: Viento's for guy who's got no defensive positional value whatsoever.

796
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: We don't even know if he can really play first base.

797
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: He didn't look great. I don't know how much better

798
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna be his feet or horrible, and he's never

799
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: been described as a great athlete, so I don't know

800
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 2: if his footwork is going to improve that much. That

801
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: comes on the coaching like, I don't know how long

802
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: are we gonna keep playing this game with him when

803
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: we have a guy out there that could alter how

804
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: this team looks right now.

805
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: So there's also another part of this where it's like

806
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: one of the odds if you don't trade Mark Fiantos

807
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: now that he even does the entire length of his

808
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: rookie contract on the Mets like Mark Fianto's is a

809
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 3: guy who's a non zero non tender candidate, which is

810
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: the comedy non tendered Kyle Schwarber, Like shit that in mine.

811
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: That's fucking stupid.

812
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: That's great, that's but one of the dumbest baseball moves

813
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: that we've seen the last decade.

814
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: I'll say that Dodgers non tendered Cody Bellinger, how about

815
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: that one too.

816
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: That was also one where that was just so that

817
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 3: was just such a bizarre situation. Who knows what happened there,

818
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: but there's there's a lot more baseball Mark Fiantas has

819
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: played that doesn't look like last year than what last

820
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: year was. But also seeing what happened last year, like

821
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: that's in there somewhere, but blst of a while, what

822
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: happened last year happened.

823
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: It was still with.

824
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: Thirty percent track I rated through twenty on base percentage,

825
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and.

826
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: All the underlying numbers were like this guy's getting unbelievably lucky.

827
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: We don't love what's going on here.

828
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: And something that's funny about the difference of Mark Fianzos

829
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: and Louis Robert Junior just again playing altfaza baseball, Like

830
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: to use projections a lot the opposite projection systems, like

831
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: each of those guys Louis Robert Junior has very bad

832
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: projections on all of the ones that are much more

833
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: stat heavy without like the you know, bat ball data

834
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: projections like things like Steamer zips ATC Aerial Cowen's projection system.

835
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: Those all don't like Robert. They think Robert's a blow

836
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: league garbage hither. All of those love Vientos. They think

837
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: he's a five to ten percent better in the garbage

838
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: hither the flip side the bat the Bad X by

839
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: Derek Carr, the and OOPSI by join Rosenbluem and Nino

840
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: Seris which uses a lot more batspeat stack cast data.

841
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: Those don't like Fianzos. Those Cee Fianto's is barely the

842
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: league garbage heather where they see Robert still as the

843
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: twelve percent bet in the garbage ten percent better than

844
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: the garbage hither. So this is now going to be

845
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: an interesting the thought process of what does this front

846
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: office actually think. Do they actually value that upper miners

847
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: statistical output and also what we saw Mark Faner's doing

848
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: one year or are they going to look for tools

849
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: because I think that there's a lot that we've seen

850
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: from this Mets front office recently that there are tools

851
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: based front office, and they know that we need a

852
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: center fielder.

853
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: Again.

854
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: Tyrone Taylor is a sensational defensive player. But Luis if

855
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: if you can get Luis row Barn this roster and

856
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: Tyrone Taylor then becomes like the essence of the Travis

857
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: Jankowski to pinch runner, to play late ending replacement. You've

858
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: elevated the botom of this roster so fucking much in one shot,

859
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: like in terms of one to twenty six. That's also

860
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: part of this. There's an extraneous nature of Mark Fantos

861
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: on this roster right now. Him and Starling Marte, don't

862
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: they're not that different, which may sound we say Marte

863
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: is playing better.

864
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: They're both right handed hitters with no defensive value.

865
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: So it's like, and one of them can run a

866
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: little bit, which is funny, I'll give them salary might

867
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: say that credit. So it's it's I don't like trading

868
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: major league talent. Toget other major league talents this time

869
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: of year, but in the Mets case, specifically.

870
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: The roster is crunched, so it's like, it's not I

871
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: don't know. I go, I'm gone.

872
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: I've gone back and forth on this in my head

873
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: twelve times. He says, we started this conversation. Now I'll

874
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: say this too.

875
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: I would love to give up less than Mark Fientos.

876
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: I would be happy to give up less than Mark

877
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: Fiento's if they wanted, like people have been thrown out,

878
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: like the combination of like Drew Gilbert and like some

879
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 2: lower minage guy or something like that. Yeah or yeah

880
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: or Drew Gilbert like yeah, deal. I'll drive them to

881
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: Chicago too. They'll play every day and same thing. I

882
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: hope they have great careers. But if the White Sox

883
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: are hard and fast and steady on the fact that

884
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: you're not getting Luis or barn unless you give us

885
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: Mark Viento's, I don't think you can, like Mark Fiento's

886
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: be the guy who's holding new hostage to miss out

887
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: on possibly a top tier player.

888
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: Now I want to change this conversation a little bit,

889
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: because we've talked a lot about the two players and

890
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: what you made your opinion here abundantly clear. Yes, when

891
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: a rumor like this leaks, who do you think is

892
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: the one responsible which side? Because usually these rumors can

893
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: always get traced back to one of these options.

894
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: Do you think this is the Mets? Is this the

895
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: White Sox? Is this Robert's agent? Is this Fiano's agent?

896
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: Who for something like this to make it out who

897
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: has the most to gains? I think that's the interesting part,

898
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: because there is this the Mets putting more value on

899
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: Mark Fiento's Like, is this is this?

900
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: Do we think this is really real? Like as a

901
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: one for one trade. I'm trying to put the tin

902
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: foil hat on and think about why or how this

903
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 2: is now trickled out. Here's why I'll say White Sox

904
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 2: because remember earlier in the year when the Robert rumors

905
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: to the Mets first started, it was Robert for Blade Tidwell, right,

906
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: that was the rumor. That's what everyone was thinking, and

907
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: when we talked about on this podcasts also in White Sox,

908
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: and that was also Nightingales. To me, I still lean

909
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: White Sox, wanting that maybe hoping that someone goes, oh,

910
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: Mark Viento's we got a player like that, we could

911
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: beat that the Phillies. We go like you want Alec

912
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: Bohm like, is there is there much of a difference

913
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: between now and Mark Viento's true. Yes there is a

914
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: big one. Yeah, Boom's better. Yes, that's what I'm saying.

915
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: But like in the Phillies perspective, I'm sure they would

916
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: probably make that trade as well to move Bomb for

917
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: Luis Robert. I don't think what after that Moondo Sosa

918
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: injury yesterday. Oh we got hurt badly. Yeah he was

919
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 2: down on the shop. Oh I did not know that. Okay,

920
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: that does change things because the roster construction.

921
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: But if he was healthy then yes, because that I

922
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: don't know. That's where my brain went initially, where it's like,

923
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: how does this make it out? We know this Mets team. Also,

924
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: isn't that we don't have that many leaks. I honestly

925
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: thought it was possibly the Viano's camp for a tiny bit,

926
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: because it's like, get you know you've lost your job

927
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: and we know how cutthroat the arbitration is, and we

928
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: just know how these teams operate. When like you non

929
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 3: in tents ors someone, it kind of puts a stink

930
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: on you, even though it might not be made more

931
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: into they're fair, it puts a stink on you. And

932
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: no one knows more about Mark Fianzos than the New

933
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: York Mets. Mark Fianto's as a twenty five year old

934
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: for two straight years has seen a progression of his

935
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: bat speed, of his general athleticism. And it's kind of

936
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: like why Max egx of velocity They've trickled down every

937
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 3: single year. It's like, why are these things going in

938
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: the wrong direction right now? As a twenty five year

939
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 3: old who is just like a literal hero. They also

940
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: know and again I don't know anything about this. This

941
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 3: could be a good or bad thing. I'm just saying

942
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: they know better than anybody else. Mark Fianto's attitude, Mark

943
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: Fiantro's work ethic. No one knows more about Mark fiatties

944
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: and the people in the Mets building, So I think it. Besides,

945
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: like Mark Fianto's himself, like you know, like that you

946
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: know wait maybe maybe yeah, But like there's it's these

947
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 3: these are very interesting conversations because it's like why if

948
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: you got smacked, If you got hit in the head

949
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: last year, October twenty first, and you were in a

950
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: com until today you woke up and you were like,

951
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 3: the Mets are going to trade Mark Fiento, so they insane,

952
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: you know. But also on the similar side, if you

953
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: go back in time to April first of last year

954
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: and you're like the mestic get luistro bear from Mark

955
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: Fiento's Holy shit. So it's like it's I think that

956
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: these front offices think in a much longer view than

957
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: any of us fans do, and I think that's like

958
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: a funny conversation this time of years.

959
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: People are like, he's uping his trade values. Trade value

960
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: is dead.

961
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't think that anything that happens on

962
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: a baseball field for months, obviously, depending on if it's

963
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: like really drastic, impacts the trade value of these guys.

964
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 3: So sometimes so you're you're trying to tell me that

965
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: a six game hitting streak in the last week of

966
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 3: July is not uping Mark Vienzo's his trade value.

967
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: Are you a fucking idiot?

968
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: But I'll say this, if Mark Fianto's tonight hits a

969
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: ball one hundred and sixteen miles now hour, that helps

970
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 3: it trade. Yeah, but it's about it's about like siphoning

971
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: out the noise. But I don't think like a two

972
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: run double against Robbie Ray on Saturday does it. It's

973
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: just this time, you were so much fun baseball is

974
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: I think the best trade deadline. It's I think it's

975
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: the most impact on playoff runs on champions in any

976
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: other sport, Like it's it's the most interesting guys moving

977
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: biased because I know the most about them, but it's

978
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: just like it's conversations like.

979
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: This are so fascinating. I don't think other sports have them.

980
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: Before we go into talking about Greg Risoto and then

981
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna take Game three, then a series recap, I'm

982
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 2: gonna leave you with one question. How different is Mark

983
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: Viento's for the rest of his career than Wilmer Flores.

984
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: That was a conversation that was happening on Friday. Well,

985
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: Wilmer Flores has always been able to do something Mark

986
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: Fiando's hasn't demonstrated yet, and that's hit the ship out

987
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: of lefties a nonsim And maybe this is me.

988
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: Being again the hater that I am as people would

989
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: like to probably you know, give me that nickname for

990
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: Viento's that feels like his ceiling to me is like

991
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: Welles and truthfully, like you could find Wilmer Flores anywhere.

992
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: We had Jade Davis for two seasons with that kind

993
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: of production, like we had I just you are young.

994
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: If you're for sure under selling Fiantos right now, I

995
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I don't know if I am we

996
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean, just again we talk about Vienzo's not having

997
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: great batspeed and not having the best batted ball data.

998
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: It's it's so much better than Wilmiflores has ever been.

999
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: But ever or just this year, we got a couple

1000
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: of years when we only have bats feed down to

1001
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, like we're seeing bats in the league.

1002
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: We're seeing like thirty five year old warmer Flores.

1003
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: Thirty we saw thirty year old Wimer Flores still have

1004
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: one of the slowest bats in the league. And Wilmer

1005
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: Flores has basically never had like a bubbly garbage heart

1006
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: hit rate. Even now when Mark Fiantos is bad, he

1007
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: has he can still hit the ball hard consistently, But

1008
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: Wilmer Flora is also he does that intentional because he's

1009
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: a contact guy, you know what I mean. That's how

1010
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: warmer Flores oftentimes for a couple of months here and there,

1011
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: pops and in a risk because he just puts the

1012
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: ball in plays and strike out. But like in terms

1013
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: of in terms of physical ability, like Mark Fiantos has

1014
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 3: much better offen of upside the Warmer floors much.

1015
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 2: I can't.

1016
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: I can't let you go down there in terms of production,

1017
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: in terms of production because Multipley is skinn a cat. Yes,

1018
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: that might not wind up being that different in terms

1019
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: off you know, on base percentage ops kind of like

1020
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: ceilings and floors. I think, actually, I think floor market

1021
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: is still better than the Warmer. Flora's floor saw especially

1022
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: were interesting. Find not the ops last year two hundred

1023
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: play appearance.

1024
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: He's terrible. That was bad. I guess that's really bad.

1025
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then again a couple of bad defenders as well.

1026
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: May the World's here is when more Flora's playing shortstop,

1027
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: which is incomprehensible.

1028
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 2: But okay, don't talk about the world team, not again,

1029
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: not again. To the episodes we made.

1030
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: We made Murph relive that. I can't believe they played

1031
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: that in the room. But this is, this is this

1032
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: is a fascinating conversation. I'm sure the Met's gonna be

1033
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: in some really interesting discussions this whole week.

1034
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: Do you think Okay, last two questions, do you think

1035
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: the Mets trade for Luis Robert because there's a chance

1036
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: that we don't get another episode until it happens. Yes,

1037
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: I do too. I feel like this just a.

1038
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: Lot of smoke and just it's it makes the most sense.

1039
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: And they both there's both teams have of real energy.

1040
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: It seems like he do something like this. It's just

1041
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: a good fit both ways, and Metso's we got the

1042
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: guys people want.

1043
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: Well, then who's who's the player that gets moved? Then

1044
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: if you just pick one, it doesn't have to be

1045
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: you don't have to give me the full trade. But

1046
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: who do you think is a player that gets moved

1047
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: into Luis Robert trade? Maybe true Gilbert not Viena's all right,

1048
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: I kind of feel cool with that. Listen, I'd be

1049
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: happier to give up Drew Gilbert than Mark Vieno. So

1050
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: I want that to be known. And it's still a

1051
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: pro Drew Gilbert podcast.

1052
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: But even though he's been really hitting the ball well

1053
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 3: in Triple A, the ex of last seas are still

1054
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: not over one ten, which is that line where it's.

1055
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: Like, can you be a regular? Similarly, I'll say this,

1056
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: we've seen Luis Robert dominate major League baseball pitching. Drew

1057
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Gilbert at twenty five is just figuring out triple A.

1058
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: So when people are like, let's give Drew Gilbert a

1059
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: shot instead, he doesn't play as centerfield Robert plays. He's

1060
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: never been as good as Robert has been.

1061
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: And still that's us saying we subjectively like Drew Gilbert.

1062
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: Drew GILBERTAZ definitely has some big time intangibles, but Luis

1063
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: Robert has like looked like he could be MVP caliber

1064
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: player at times. So Drew Gilbert does have three out

1065
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: of the balls at exactly one ten that he has.

1066
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: This is so funny.

1067
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: It's five baut of the balls between one and nine

1068
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: point seven and one hundred and ten point one, and

1069
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: those are the hardest he's hit this year, which again

1070
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: that's not terrible. Yeah no, it's not bad at all,

1071
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: but that's also not that's.

1072
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: Like harder than Nolan Aaronado's hit the ball, so he's

1073
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: ever hit one.

1074
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: But that's also that's what's the peak for Drew. Goob

1075
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: also has a bull two advantage, so it can be

1076
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: a strong side guy for a long time with with

1077
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: twenty homer powerfuge trap late for one hundred and sixty two.

1078
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: But it's just Luise Robert has a top end and

1079
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: like you said, it's so wide open right now, I'm

1080
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: in to take some shots.

1081
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: Like why, Like I don't know, Like just you should

1082
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: let let let the dice roll now, talk about taking

1083
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: some shots. Meth took a shot Gregory Soto in traded

1084
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: a couple of prospects. I know. I tweeted out that

1085
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: this is my nightmare. Just to clarify why I say

1086
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: it's my nightmare. It's just because when the Phillies originally

1087
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: traded for Gregory Soto, I was giving them a lot

1088
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: of shit and a lot of Philly fans shit for

1089
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: pretending like he was this elite All Star closer. So

1090
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: there's a lot of tweets out there of me talking

1091
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: about Gregorisoto very very very poorly. That's why it's my nightmare.

1092
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: Objectively speaking, this is a plus trade for the Mets.

1093
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: The Mets got a good left handed reliever in their bullpen.

1094
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna walk a ton of guys, which is gonna

1095
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: drive people insane. And I have my fingers crossed that

1096
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: this is gonna work out. I have my doubts about it.

1097
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm not over the moon trying to pretend like this

1098
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: is the biggest move the Mets ever made, and they're

1099
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: gonna turn him into one of the most dominant left

1100
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: handed relievers baseball. But he throws one hundred miles an

1101
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: hour from the left side with sink like that's very

1102
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: valuable to this team. With a good slider too.

1103
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: Gregorustoa will have some issues against Ridy's because the whole

1104
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: thing is just it's sink or sweep. It's sinker slider,

1105
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 3: sinker slider, which again is not as great, and he

1106
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: has been relatively efective againt Ridy's for basically his entire career,

1107
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: and he's going to have to.

1108
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 2: Get Righty's out. But the big part of this trade

1109
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: is just the fact that you want to win the division,

1110
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: you have to get Kyle Swarber and Bress Harper out. Yes,

1111
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: So you just have to do it. And I do

1112
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: trust him better against Harper Schwarber than I do Brooks Raley.

1113
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: Who I want Brooks Raley, Yeah, like more Brooks, more

1114
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: Platuo neutral. Yes.

1115
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: And so though the fastball specs aren't really good, like

1116
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 3: his fastball actually gets some natural sink and some cut

1117
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: on it or some run, it's still ninety seven miles

1118
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: an hour. Ninety seven miles an hour is never going

1119
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: to be a gimmee. And people say, if it's straight,

1120
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 3: who cares. But it's like, it's ninety seven miles an hours,

1121
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: you've bet, you've bet a chance hitting ninety forty ninety seven.

1122
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: It's just no, no doubt every time. Yeah, yeah, but

1123
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: again the shape can change that. But it's it's it's

1124
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: totally a fine trade. Some people in the mess community, again,

1125
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 3: we always shot other by Isaac the pitching the pitching savant.

1126
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: If I'm the pitching whisper, Isaac is the pitching messiah.

1127
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 3: It's some people were a little bit upset by Wellington

1128
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: Arsenya leaving in this trade. We've talked about Wellington Arsenia

1129
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: a few times in the Prospect reports. Here he's a

1130
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: twenty year old who throws like one hundred with some

1131
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: cut with a cover with a slide there like he's

1132
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: he's got he's got some serious juice. I think some

1133
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: people around the league think that the Orioles did well

1134
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: in getting a pitcher with that much in firm Air

1135
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 3: quotes potential for guy that Greg Rissolo, who's just again

1136
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 3: reliever rental but at the same time better than fifty

1137
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: percent chance Arsenya becomes reliever in the major leagues in

1138
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: five years, So you trade the reliever related to get

1139
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 3: the reliever.

1140
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: Now it's a no brainer deal. Well, you know, taking

1141
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: a chance definitely worth it. I like that the Mets

1142
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: jump through reliever market early too, before we start to

1143
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: see some easy, crazy prices, because I have a feeling,

1144
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: as it always does, as we get closer to that

1145
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: deadline crazy You're like, who's traded for? Who? I mean,

1146
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: never forget the mess trade deadline stream that we've done. Yeah,

1147
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I.

1148
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I should schedule that clip of us talking about

1149
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: it's in the bookmarks.

1150
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: I watched it with a shout out s R S. Mike.

1151
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: I was like, this morning, woke up. I was we

1152
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: were talking about trade deadline stuff and just like what

1153
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: we think the Mets could be doing, and I was like,

1154
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: we have that clip bookmarked shot. I think al Troll

1155
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: tweeted that at us, Yeah, and it's just I'm like,

1156
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: we're sure, PCA, and you're like, oh, I just ruined

1157
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: my entire day. I'll pipe it in here.

1158
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: But I think we had some more more colorful language

1159
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 3: than that. But also that's gonna be scheduled for trade

1160
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: deadline morning, so every other guy.

1161
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 5: In the roster.

1162
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: It was a really brilliant trade.

1163
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: It was.

1164
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: It was the type of sideways move. Shut the fuck up.

1165
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 2: We gave a Pete Crow. Oh damn it, shit, that's

1166
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 2: too much fuck like I say that. Yeah, okay, ship, Oh,

1167
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't like that. I don't like that all I'm off.

1168
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm done with the trade now now I'm upset. Oh

1169
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: that's that.

1170
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: I'm excited for more trade deadline stuff. I'm excited for

1171
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: you to get back from Portlands. We could just do

1172
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: a lot of trade deadline You're gonna do a lot

1173
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: of trade deadline content yourself too. It's just like this

1174
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 3: is it's so much fucking fun. I think I'm gonna

1175
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 3: do a trade. It's it's it's incredible, especially when your

1176
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: team is in it, which we're lucky to be.

1177
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: And we got a good shot right now.

1178
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you guys quickly about Game three

1179
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 3: of the series.

1180
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: Wrap it up all right?

1181
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 3: Nice Game three recap here Little James Ciano, Mike frances

1182
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: Solo podcast style. I was just I was so excited,

1183
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: boy Ronn and Rizio at the top. I had to

1184
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: just wedge that into the beginning. But now I got

1185
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: a lot more things to talk about, some good, some bad,

1186
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: some really good, some whatever. But like Coolee Sanga another

1187
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: start where the stuff, I mean the stuff was good,

1188
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: but the command wasn't very good. Like he was still

1189
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 3: a magician, he still got out of all the jams.

1190
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: It was just Matt Chapman that got the better of

1191
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: him twice. But just there were so many walks. He

1192
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: got himself into trouble so many times through so many

1193
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: pitches really need to throw, which kind of hurt his

1194
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: ability to have a chance to go deep in this game.

1195
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 3: And a lot of it came from the fastball command.

1196
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: Like a lot of those fastballs were just either way

1197
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: out of the zone and not that competitive or right

1198
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: in the heart of the zone. One of those fastballs

1199
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: in the heart of the zone, Matt Chapman crush. He

1200
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: crushed another col directly down the middle as well. And

1201
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: a lot of the fastballs were hit hard in general.

1202
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 3: Like it's hard to I'm not like nervous or scared

1203
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: about Coli. There's a lot of stuff that we talked

1204
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: about during the first half, during like when he was

1205
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: kind of trying to get out of these things. He

1206
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: didn't really looked right and now coming back from the injury,

1207
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: it just kind of hopes that he can smooth all

1208
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: of this out. But there definitely are again not like

1209
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: causes for concern, but just things that are stopping Kodi

1210
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: right now from being the frontline star that we kind

1211
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: of really want.

1212
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: Him to need him to be.

1213
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: But all of that kind of got washed away because

1214
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 3: the bullpen was ridiculous. The series A full bulp series

1215
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: shout out from the bullpen is so cool. Edward did

1216
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: make a sweaty in the end, but we just know

1217
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 3: he's an adrenaline junkie. He wanted to load the bases

1218
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: just so we could have his fun and get those

1219
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: big strikeouts to.

1220
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: Close it out.

1221
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 3: Buteau looked nasty also again, really nice to see him.

1222
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: I know a couple of pearances ago it wasn't that good,

1223
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: but he's a big piece in this pen and Gregorysolo

1224
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 3: knew met Gregory so though such an awesome inning. I

1225
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: love them and those that gave him the top of

1226
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: the order as his assignment because there was two lefties

1227
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: there with John Hului and Ralphield Devers and he just

1228
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: passed it with flying covers, flying covers, flying colors of

1229
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: them talking about we're doing this alone.

1230
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

1231
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: But the teen pitch at bat to Devers two was

1232
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: really cool winning that battle. Lots and lots of sliders

1233
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: and sinkers over and over again, hitting a lot of spots.

1234
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: Also something really cool Gregorris Solo did in this outing,

1235
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: I mentioned that with Joung Juley Endeavors, those were the

1236
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: two lefties, that was why Solo had the ending, but

1237
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: in between them was Alio Oramos. The Ali Ram was

1238
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: a really good right handed hither and that was the

1239
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: only right Solo was do the face that edending. Oh oh,

1240
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: first pitch of the at bad Solo started him out

1241
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 3: with a.

1242
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: Little get me over back door sweeper.

1243
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: Kind of felt like an innocuous pitch and Inoccui's decision,

1244
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: just a good way to get strike run. But that

1245
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: was the first first pitch sweeper that Gregorus Solo has

1246
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: thrown to a right handed batther this entire season.

1247
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: So that's kind of like the pitching lab working fast.

1248
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: Just a little bit of game planning, a little bit

1249
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: of adjustment, a little bit of an idea, something new

1250
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: that Gregory Solo was able to work in already in

1251
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: his first appearance with the Mets. That helped is sitting

1252
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: a lot because you get ahead of so though then

1253
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 3: I think he wound up having him oh too, and

1254
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: he just destroyed him with the.

1255
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: Back foot slider. Super nasty.

1256
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: Also, I feel bad for the left handed hitters whoever

1257
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: have to play in Oracle Park. I guess it didn't

1258
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 3: really matter for Wan Solo and Running Maritio, because you know,

1259
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: we got those guys together. But Jeff got robbed so

1260
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: badly of that home run that would have I remember

1261
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: for the tied the game, for the put this ahead,

1262
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 3: but it was They showed the graphic on the ESPN

1263
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: two stat cast broadcast that the home run would have

1264
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 3: been like twenty feet over the fence into the bullpen

1265
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: and city field. Instead just hit the wall and Jeff

1266
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: only got a double, didn't even get a triple because

1267
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: I think I remember if that was Jung hu Lei

1268
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: or Yestremsky who who fielded that ball.

1269
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: They wound up fielding it really well, and.

1270
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 3: Again Sis Squalverrez, two more hard hit balls, look very back.

1271
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 3: Another extra base hit with the bottom of the order

1272
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: clicking like that, Like if we get a good version

1273
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: of Alvarez Marisio just again obscene and like the consistency

1274
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: that we've had from Baiity for basically the last two

1275
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 3: months now, and then we get Winker back and we

1276
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: still have McNeil that bridges the top to the bottom.

1277
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: It's just there's so many more places this team can

1278
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: go if this line gets like fully cohesive and has

1279
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: these rallies, the top guys carrying the bottom guys supplementing,

1280
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: and also with the bullpen. A scoreless, scoreless A scoreless

1281
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: series from the bullpen is crazy. Ri Garrett was nasty

1282
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: again too, like this is awesome right now, really great win,

1283
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: really great sweep, Like we should be feeling so good

1284
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 3: about this team now heading into the series with the Padres.

1285
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: Excellent job, mister Schiano, well done. A little little Colin

1286
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 2: Coward solo show. We've each had a solo game three

1287
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: now so where he has like one whole episode together. Neither.

1288
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and preview the next series up against

1289
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Speaker 2: the San Diego Padre. James, we got pitching matches.

1290
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 3: What are we looking at, yep, so pitching matchups this

1291
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: series against the Padres Monday, nine to forty start midnight.

1292
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 3: Mets are back bait of an as off here Franken

1293
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 3: montsas varus Dylan Cees.

1294
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: If Dylan see is still.

1295
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: In the Padres by then what if Dylan seeses on

1296
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: the Mets just walk over locker rooms, trade the money

1297
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 3: like Joe young Blood Tuesday, July twenty ninth.

1298
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: But I don't know why.

1299
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: I just sad the date that was insane. Now another

1300
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 3: nine to forty starts, so weird, that's weird. That was like,

1301
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: that was a brainer moment, shaman I versus you Darvish.

1302
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: And then Wednesday four tenths start Wednesday four tenths kind

1303
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: of a nice little start time there. Clay Holmes versus

1304
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: Nick Paveda, a couple other relievers of controversation. And also

1305
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 3: I'm curious, but what happens to this home start again

1306
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: after the one hundred pitches on regular rest with the

1307
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: off day the next day. I'm wondering if the Mets

1308
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: get a little funky with that Clay home start. But

1309
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: that being said, big series against the Padres, a team

1310
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: that were close to in the standings, they haven't been.

1311
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: They started the season very, very hot and a lot

1312
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: of people are like, this is it this year. The

1313
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 3: Padres are all coming together, but it also kind of

1314
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: felt very incomplete from them the whole time. We said

1315
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 3: we've said it before, I'll say it again. The Padres

1316
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: are that meme of the horse with the back of

1317
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: the horses drawn shaded beautifully. The front of the horse

1318
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: is like a square. That's who this roster is.

1319
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 2: So it's you. The first two.

1320
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 3: Winnings, you're like, oh my god, we need a break.

1321
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 3: Third then you're like, oh, chill, nice, cool March.

1322
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: You see Ferneo Tatis, Jackson Merrill, Manny Machado, and your

1323
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: boy x Xander Buggert has been swinging the well recently

1324
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: on fire on fire, like those four hitters. You're like, okay,

1325
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: I'm playing shortstops and progress. Yeah, playing well at short

1326
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: sum good defense. But you're like, okay, lock in. And

1327
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: then I'm not gonna mention any of their names because

1328
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: I would never do that on this podcast. But you

1329
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: start to get to the rest of the lineup and

1330
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, like it's very disjointed. One

1331
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: guy we definitely will be seeing though, Oh my god,

1332
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna see a little Jose Glaciers and I just

1333
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 2: I promise he was gonna do something big in this year.

1334
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: Definitely, I'm excited for the rash of Mets creators to

1335
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: post there at Glaciers tweets this whole week, all this stuff.

1336
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: I'm also excited for the you know, they're the crazy

1337
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 3: Mets fans to be like this, we could have used

1338
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: this all year when he gets one big hit, totally

1339
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: ignoring the fact that he has a two ninety on

1340
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 3: base percentage, a sixty five WRC, plus he's been a

1341
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: negative player in terms of wins above replacement. Very definitely,

1342
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: very vindicating move for the David Sharon's front office, being like,

1343
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: of course, we're not going to bring this guy back,

1344
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: just just for just for the hit single that he

1345
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: made while it was amazing at the time, and I

1346
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 3: will not trade and leave them the feelings from the

1347
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four Mets ever again, loser's talking. One of

1348
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: the most fun baseball seasons of my life. Very very

1349
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 3: great move that Brett Baty had that roster spot instead

1350
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: of Jose Lazi's. I can't even imagine how much better

1351
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: it actually is.

1352
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, uh, And the reason James said those stats

1353
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: is because we've already we've already told you he's gonna

1354
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 2: do something big, So there's no jinks on ours, no gart,

1355
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: He's guaranteed getting a big hit.

1356
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: He's going to get a big hint runs scorn position.

1357
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: The Mets will lose at least one game in the series,

1358
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: and it will be directly related to Jose Lazy's getting

1359
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: a bit.

1360
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: If we're doing the draft Kings player spotlight, I'd be

1361
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: spotlight and Jose Glaci's hit all the overs.

1362
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: So here's another funny thing about the Padres. Can you

1363
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: name any player on their bench right now? Their active bench?

1364
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: They have a four player active bench, and I'll even

1365
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: give you the fact that I'll give you the three

1366
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: player active betch because they have a pretty even catching

1367
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 3: tand of Martin Maldonado and l E.

1368
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Sd S who've been was gonna be my cop out,

1369
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 2: all right?

1370
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 5: No?

1371
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: Actually not right now. He's not on the bench. Jose

1372
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: Glaciers is. Obviously he's on the bench.

1373
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: Jose Lacy has been playing basically every single day at

1374
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: second base where she croner Worth is he hurt is

1375
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: playing first?

1376
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: Where's Louis ris d h brother that's right. I forgot

1377
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 2: He's one of the best hitters of this generation.

1378
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: He's also playing a lot of first cronin Worth. What

1379
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I got this second and first it's been

1380
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: it's been a mix up. But what about this is

1381
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 3: our boy, Mason McCoy. He's a met killer?

1382
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Is he there? Luckily not, that.

1383
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 3: Could change my Monday be Mason McCoy, Tyler Wade, Tyler Wade,

1384
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: you got one, you got one member of the San

1385
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 3: Diego Padres bench.

1386
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 2: And I'll say this too. I guy fumbled, Alex Earl.

1387
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: The next two guys, Tyler Wade man the.

1388
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: Tither Way stories. But the next two guys.

1389
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 3: You just start just throwing out names of players that

1390
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 3: you think could be creative players that will be the

1391
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 3: show because you have you'll never you don't know who.

1392
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: These guys are. I'm gonna I'm gonna go three names.

1393
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: Uh huh, give give me. I'm gonna throw out a

1394
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: Joe Thompson. No, you think about more like dude, perfect names. Okay, Garrett,

1395
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: Garrett Williams on the right track.

1396
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 3: But no, but these are very These are funny first

1397
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: names and basic last names.

1398
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: Okay, funny first names. Give me like a Jazz. Another Jackson,

1399
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 2: give me another, No Jackson, No Jackson. Okay, one more

1400
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: crazy funny name. Give me like a Brandon, not like Brandon,

1401
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 2: but like combining Branden Brandon.

1402
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 3: There's a Bee, but it's not that. And there's the

1403
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: other name does have an N in the middle in

1404
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 3: a weird spot. So you're you're you're getting warmer.

1405
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 2: Give me, give me the names, Give me the names.

1406
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: That was too good a podcasting.

1407
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 3: We have left handed hitter, first basement slash outfielder Trenton Brooks,

1408
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 3: and then we have switch hitting outfielder who's mixed in

1409
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: at left not a center fielder by trade, apparently, Bryce Johnson.

1410
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: Those those are these are people that those are the sand.

1411
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: That's the San Diego Padres bench right now.

1412
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: It's Eli sds or Martine Maltenauer, whoever it doesn't have

1413
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: the privilege to catch that day.

1414
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 2: Trenton Brooks, Tyler Wade, and Bryce Johnson. Oh, they're gonna

1415
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: fucking kill us, crush us.

1416
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: And then again, but this team is still a good team.

1417
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 3: The top of this order, teas Arise is gonna be

1418
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: real annoying. Marxsen gets some takes off my child of

1419
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: the Jackson, Merrill, swung up Betther Boguards, Gavin Sheets whether

1420
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 3: you know another White Sox cast off, was having the

1421
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: best season of his entire career. Get him how that

1422
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: hell hole he starts hitting? Oh no, Croninworth and the

1423
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 3: Crone zone. And then the pitching staff has been while

1424
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 3: again kind of a meme.

1425
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: The front of It's great.

1426
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: Nick Veda has had the Resurger breakout season for like

1427
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: four fucking million dollars.

1428
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: Pisses me off every single day.

1429
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: For the Padres, Dylan Cees has been the unluckiest pitcher

1430
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: in baseball this season. If someone is able to pry

1431
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: him away from the Padres before the second half, he

1432
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 3: could be a guy that really changes the playoff picture.

1433
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 2: I think.

1434
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 3: And then new Darvish just came back off after a

1435
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 3: long layoff. This stuff has not looked good. But I'm

1436
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: still willing to trust Darvis, especially against the Mets, because

1437
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 3: he completely torments us time after time, and.

1438
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they let him get some swings in, maybe

1439
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: in the bay.

1440
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 3: Actually no, I mean, honestly, I'd rather I'm not gonna

1441
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 3: say that. I cannot fuck it if I JINX said,

1442
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: I jinks it whatever, I'd rather see the Bryce Johnson

1443
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: at back from you darbyshev bad whatever. I don't give

1444
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: a fuck at this point. Also, on top of that,

1445
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 3: the back of the Padres bullpen is awesome. Robert Suarez

1446
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: has been up and down, but like when he's up,

1447
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: he throws a hundred great fastball.

1448
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: Change up.

1449
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: Jason Adam, Adrian Martjone, Jeremiah Strada has a sick ass fastball.

1450
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 3: David Morgan's mixed in. I don't think he's been as

1451
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 3: great though, Wadi Peralta Magic.

1452
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: Wandy magic.

1453
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: It's this is this team is as as strange as

1454
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 3: they are, they're still good.

1455
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 2: Do you think that they're gonna have a new player

1456
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: on the team during the series while we play them? Maybe?

1457
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: But I don't know how Prebler gets that guy. What's

1458
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 3: what's going on? How does he there's no one left,

1459
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 3: there's no one less trade.

1460
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: Who can he convince that Ethan Solace is actually a

1461
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: good prospect because I know it want to be pipeline

1462
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: he's convinced them. I'm interested to see what team he

1463
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: can fleece for that guy.

1464
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 3: That was a rumor that I've seen, like very clearly

1465
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 3: went up from the Padres. I wanted to say the

1466
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: Dylan sees for Ethan solid, Dylan sees Ethan Salas for

1467
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: Jaron Durant.

1468
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like why the fall the Red Sox. Ever, take that,

1469
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna say.

1470
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: The flip side of that, I think about the Red Sox. Actually,

1471
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 3: I would just I would just take the Dylon cease.

1472
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: I think I think you overrate Jaron Durant.

1473
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I don't know. I you can talk about

1474
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: years of control. They got years of control of him,

1475
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: that's true.

1476
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: And then again, one thing the Padres need, which is rare.

1477
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: It's just they got they need a corner outfielder, like

1478
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: they need air to breathe, so that that's another piece

1479
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 3: of that too.

1480
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: But he's like, turns around such a weird He's a

1481
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: weird value guy. I'm gonna tell you that. I think

1482
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to tune in chime in. Frankie Peppers

1483
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: as well. I was a little reminder, so definitely a

1484
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: little Frankie Peppers. So I'm now gonna let Frankie Peppers

1485
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: come in. All right, everybody, here we go. We got

1486
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: Frankie Peppers.

1487
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: Gentlemen, this is Frankie Peppers. Ain't going I'm in my

1488
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: call right now. Coming back from Philadelphia, I went on

1489
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: the cover. I went behind that enemy lines of Citizens

1490
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: Big Park City Field. This way better. But I got

1491
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: to see the Banana boys play some baseball and it

1492
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: was a really fun game. I had no idea what

1493
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: was happening. Didn't rain a lot, so we left after

1494
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: the eighth inning because they stopped the game. They stick

1495
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: so bad that Citizens Big Book couldn't even do like

1496
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: a full fun games.

1497
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: It was despeakable. No for me, olymp was a good time.

1498
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: I saw Gready and I like, pretty gritty is a

1499
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: good guy. But what a serious way? Want to sweep

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Speaker 1: by your boys? Everyone's looking really good right now, and

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Speaker 1: U and I'm sorry, just gain attention on the Jersey

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Speaker 1: can term by kid mely.

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Speaker 2: Is it the end? Oh my god, wait four more seconds.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay attention to the real boys.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to you. We got we gotta.

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Speaker 3: We have Frankie Peppers on the scene at the Bananas

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Speaker 3: and Citizens Bank Park.

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Speaker 2: We almost have some live road range for Frankie Peppers.

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Speaker 2: I just can't. I love I love Frankie Peppers. If

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Speaker 2: you're listening to this, I love you so much. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for the voicemail and now I'm back. It is

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Speaker 2: the magic of editing. That's it for this episode. Guys.

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Speaker 2: or members, you get all the episodes early. And we

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Speaker 2: need that. We need to do a member live stream.

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Speaker 2: We guy, we almost so badly, so we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: download and subscribe. You can follow James on social media

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Speaker 2: at James Ciano. I'm draftneckmark with a C. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: auys for listening and watching. We'll catch you all on

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Speaker 2: the next episode. Let's go, Mets, beace out, Go Mets Baby.

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Speaker 2: See you guys next time.