WEBVTT - How Going to the Moon Works

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody comes see us, because we're coming to see you. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of I Heart Radios. How Stuff Works, Hey, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian over there, and there's Jerry over there, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is coming up on the fiftieth anniversary Chuck of the

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<v Speaker 1>first time humans ever set foot on the Moon. One

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<v Speaker 1>small step for podcasts. Oh wow, giant or podcasting. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's a really good nail, Arnce Sean, Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>that was dumb. I liked it though. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>serves as a companion piece to our June two, thou

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen episode on the Space Race. Yeah, and was the

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<v Speaker 1>moon landing of hoax? We did that one too, Cheez,

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<v Speaker 1>did we do that silliness so long ago? Two? That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds about right. I think we landed on it not

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<v Speaker 1>being a hoax if I remember correctly, that's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good companion of the Space Race one.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back and watch the uh, the full CBS

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast of this. It's like two minutes long. Huh. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. Yeah, I mean Cronkite is kind of crying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy. Well, he was a big cry baby. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows that about cron cut He cried the drop of

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<v Speaker 1>the hat. Yeah, basically you should have seen him when

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<v Speaker 1>Princess die got married. Good lord, oh boy. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing wrong with crying, Walter. No, so, Chuck, I

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<v Speaker 1>was reading about that, that transmission and the the it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing that the world got to see Neil Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Buzz Aldrin bouncing around on the moon in the sixties. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixties, at the end of the sixties. But

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<v Speaker 1>still this was far and away the first time anybody

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<v Speaker 1>had ever done anything like this. But what I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know until this very day is that the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who invented basically the the the whole setup for this

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<v Speaker 1>for Westinghouse, that that carried this out. Um, when he

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<v Speaker 1>saw that that that transmission come through, he was he

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<v Speaker 1>almost had a heart attack. It was way way worse

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<v Speaker 1>visually than it was supposed to be. Okay, so he

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<v Speaker 1>was upset at the picture quality. Yes, he I know,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying to Like, you see this and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, wow, that's really good. No, this apparently he

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<v Speaker 1>had not factored in the compression that had to take

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<v Speaker 1>place from the signal, Like if you see the raw signal,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was just crisp and clear um or you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine it would be. It turns out NASA lost the

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic tapes that have the original raw signal on it um,

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<v Speaker 1>but when it was compressed for TV, it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>messed it up a little bit. But he he apparently

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<v Speaker 1>went with it and was like, that's still good. We're

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<v Speaker 1>still broadcasting live from the Moon, yeah, which is beaming

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<v Speaker 1>it down, then back up, then back down. Like what

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<v Speaker 1>what does he expect? I guess he was a bit

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<v Speaker 1>for perfectionist. So he had a heart attack dramatic. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I said he had a heartest. Oh, I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>literally had a hard No, no, no, no, no, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like sure beats cron Kite. He just fell right over.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny as cron Kite missed the second

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<v Speaker 1>half of the quote he said, he said, that's one

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<v Speaker 1>small step for man. I didn't catch that second part.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a couple of minutes later, when Neil Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>is talking about the the so he quickly goes in

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he has a great quote then kidding, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm serious. Uh So when Armstrong he says that great

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<v Speaker 1>quote and then he quickly kind of goes into work

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<v Speaker 1>mode and he's just talking about the surface of the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>how it looks like charcoal us basically, and uh cron

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<v Speaker 1>Kite interrupts him basically and talks over him. He's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the second part. Apparently he said one giant

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<v Speaker 1>leap for man kind. Okay. It's like, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I have never seen that broadcast. It's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a simulation going, uh so you can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a really kind of corny looking sixties simulation of the

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<v Speaker 1>lunar odile landing and then it picks up with the

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<v Speaker 1>live feed. Does it look like that mountain climber on

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<v Speaker 1>the prices right? It was an unlike that. So, for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who haven't called on yet, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Apollo eleven moon landing, which happened on July

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty nine. Um, and there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>work that went up to that. We didn't just happen overnight,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it actually all started. Um. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people trace it back to that speech that John

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy gave at Rice University in Houston, Texas in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one I believe, yeah, of ninety one. Yeah, where

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<v Speaker 1>he said that he basically challenged the United States to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Moon to put a man on the

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<v Speaker 1>moon before the end of the decade, right, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, we go to the moon not because it's easy,

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<v Speaker 1>but because it's up there mocking us when we sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>He was quite insane. And I'm told it's made of cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>They bring me some of that cheese. He turned into

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<v Speaker 1>Steinbrenner George Steimerer. So, yeah, this this is what really

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the space race had been going on, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, we did a pretty good show on

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<v Speaker 1>that uh and on June five, two fourteen. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the nineteen fifties were consumed with the Russians

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<v Speaker 1>and the United States or the Soviets rather um just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of well we were in second place, but just

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<v Speaker 1>one after the other, like oh, they're doing this, and

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta do this, and they're doing this, and we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do this, um and or or both pursuing the

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<v Speaker 1>same goal and the Soviets beating us to it almost

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<v Speaker 1>every time by three months, which is enough for the

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<v Speaker 1>world to be like, but boy, we got the last laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>We did. But that's what Kennedy went bankrupts. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy was doing. Well, you can thank Reagan for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Kennedy was doing is he was upping the anties, like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, enough of this tip fitat stuff. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>really stick it to him. And he said, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Moon. We're gonna put a person on the moon,

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<v Speaker 1>a man on the moon. But you know, if it

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<v Speaker 1>were today, say human, yeah, and I think you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk more about what's actually gained by a manned

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<v Speaker 1>like sending a person to the moon. But beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very much a symbolic thing to do this

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<v Speaker 1>and to beat the Soviets there and to plant that

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<v Speaker 1>American flag firmly in that lunar soil. But that's one

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<v Speaker 1>one big reason why it was televised live from the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, we were showing we might say the moon world.

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<v Speaker 1>It was broadcasting around the world, but to it documented

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<v Speaker 1>it as proof that we were up there. To most people,

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<v Speaker 1>it was documented as proof. But then also there was

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of bravado in the fact that we

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<v Speaker 1>were broadcasting from the Moon live. So not only did

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<v Speaker 1>we accomplish this one feat of somebody people to the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>we broadcasted at live, which is another feat as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had the US Ranger program from six to

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five, and these are things that all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, it was a long process, Yeah, building

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<v Speaker 1>up to actually putting people there, And it's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>overlook that that, like every every mission that was carried

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<v Speaker 1>out was a test or. They were trying to just

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<v Speaker 1>build it by step by stair, including like full on

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<v Speaker 1>dress rehearsals. Uh So, the Ranger program for four years

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<v Speaker 1>sent nine missions. They're collecting data basically two say here's

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<v Speaker 1>how we can do this. UM In sixty two, Ranger

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<v Speaker 1>four reached the surface but crashed. But then two years

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<v Speaker 1>after that, Ranger seven UM sent back more than four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand photographs. Not bad. Rangers six made it, but the

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<v Speaker 1>camera failed. But get this, Ranger three and five missed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, oh I can't. I mean, it's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>that we were able to put people on the Moon

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<v Speaker 1>and bring them back safely in a very short time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you imagine all of the things that can

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<v Speaker 1>go wrong and what year it was, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>nuts to think about. Yeah, so you said, Rangers seven

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<v Speaker 1>landed in nineteen sixty four and sent America back its

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<v Speaker 1>own first images of the Moon. Five years later, we

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<v Speaker 1>put humans on the moon that's a very short amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Yeah. Yeah, the Soviets were the first to um,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know these rangers, they were basically like take pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>take pictures, take pictures, crash right, right, But the Soviets

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<v Speaker 1>were the first ones who actually land gently land a

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft on the Moon without just crashing into it. They

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<v Speaker 1>were also the first to the very first step with

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<v Speaker 1>lunar orbit. The second one was crashing on the Moon,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the third step was landing softly on the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Soviets beat us every step of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Which so it was a kind of um,

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<v Speaker 1>gutsy for Kennedy to be like, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the first of the Moon because we've been we've been

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<v Speaker 1>behind every step of the way. I bet the Moon

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<v Speaker 1>was like WTF, Like what's going on? I've been up

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<v Speaker 1>here for a long time and now there's just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of activity getting on pock mark. People are crashing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on me. Here's a dude, he's coming at me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's about to jump on me. That was the Moon's quote. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so all this led up to obviously, um, these these

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<v Speaker 1>tests pre flight test on the ground, which uh some

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<v Speaker 1>ended in tragedy. Notably in n a fire swept through

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<v Speaker 1>the Apollo command module and killed Gus grissom Ed White,

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<v Speaker 1>and Roger Chaffee. And that was um They dined with asphyxiation,

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<v Speaker 1>And after reading up on it, there was like there

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<v Speaker 1>were so many things wrong, Like their space suits were flammable,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a hatch door that opened in and like

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<v Speaker 1>took a long time to open. Well, the the UM

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<v Speaker 1>fire itself created a vacuum that made it impossible for

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<v Speaker 1>the hatch to open, Like there was it was impossible

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<v Speaker 1>where that hatched. It was a really really sad accident,

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<v Speaker 1>but it might have been one that was like like

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<v Speaker 1>I wish there weren't people involved, but it might have

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<v Speaker 1>been something necessary to you know, get everything right. It

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<v Speaker 1>definitely changed the mentality of the space program and that

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<v Speaker 1>safety became even more important. And I think Gus Grisson

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<v Speaker 1>was the first of the Mercury seven to die. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very sad. Yeah forty one years old? Was he just

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<v Speaker 1>forty one? He looked way It's crazy, like what forty one?

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<v Speaker 1>What age that was back then? I think everyone that

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<v Speaker 1>was like the thirty to sixty look the same pretty much,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I can't deliverate pretty much. So we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>gone to lunar orbit, we've crashed landed on the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a there's a bunch of steps that we were

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<v Speaker 1>taking in that made up the space race. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the next one was to get somebody outside of Earth's

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<v Speaker 1>orbit and into lunar orbit. Big deal. The Soviets beat

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<v Speaker 1>us there too, but just very shortly after that, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Apollo seven. Uh, spent a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of time orbiting the Earth. I think they made it too. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know the big the big thing about Apollo seven.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've gone We've gone from like Pioneer Ranger and

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<v Speaker 1>Pioneer Ranger and surveyor into now these are crude missions

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<v Speaker 1>the Apollo program. UM Apollo one and it in tragedy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Apollo seven is where, um, it really starts

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<v Speaker 1>to become significant, where things are really picking up by

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<v Speaker 1>leaps and bounce. This is less than a year before

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<v Speaker 1>we would land on the Moon, and Apollo sevens big

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<v Speaker 1>one is that this is the first time that we're

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<v Speaker 1>testing the command module that we would use to send um,

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Aldrin and Collins up to the Moon. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they ordered or orbited the Earth a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three times, spent almost eleven days in space. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was a big success. This was Walter Shiara Jr. Uh,

0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Don Eassel and Walter Cunningham from Old him Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Apollo eight was a big deal. Um. It was

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<v Speaker 1>happening so fast. That was seven was in October a

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<v Speaker 1>Polo eight was in December of the same year. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was the first one to use h the

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<v Speaker 1>Saturn rocket, which was a big, big deal. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>Saturn rocket is. Um. You can actually see one on

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<v Speaker 1>its side and walk right under it at Kennedy Space

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<v Speaker 1>Center the museum right and UM, it's bigger than I

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<v Speaker 1>think a thirty six story building. It's just this enormously

0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:33.960
<v Speaker 1>powerful rocket. And UM. When they started testing the Saturn,

0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.560
<v Speaker 1>this was this was like when the Saturn showed that

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<v Speaker 1>it would work, we people started to realize like we're

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<v Speaker 1>actually we might do this because we'd already tested out

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<v Speaker 1>the command module and UM. Now the Saturn was up

0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and the Saturn came in three stages. There was the

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<v Speaker 1>the first stage that produced like seven point seven million

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of thrust, which is a lot more than you

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<v Speaker 1>know you produce when you jump up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked, I looked for an analogy. I couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>any good comparison. It's just a lot of thrust. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So this was the thrust that got that. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the launch thrust. Yeah, it got you out of Earth's

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<v Speaker 1>gravity or the bulk of the gravity. And then so

0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that first big old stage would fall away, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the second stage got you all the way out of

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<v Speaker 1>Earth's gravity, and then the third stage of that second

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<v Speaker 1>stage you fall away. Then the third stage would propel

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<v Speaker 1>you to the moon. So it's a three stage rocket.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the time that third stage had had fired

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<v Speaker 1>and got you up to top speed, you were going

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<v Speaker 1>something like twenty five thousand miles per hour in a

0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.040
<v Speaker 1>little capsule at the top of a rocket. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a very amazing rocket. UM. And this test,

0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.200
<v Speaker 1>it was I will go to my grave saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>And this test of the Apollo A mission showed that

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<v Speaker 1>it would work. Yeah. So Apollo nine follows just two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half months, three months later, And this one

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<v Speaker 1>was a big deal because actually UM practice a very

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<v Speaker 1>important procedure, which was the docking between the command module

0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and the lunar module. So you've got this Saturn rocket

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<v Speaker 1>that's providing the juice. Then you have the command module,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where essentially where you're you know, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>flying what you would think of as the spaceship. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the crew quarters. Yeah, yeah, that's where the crew

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<v Speaker 1>is, is is where they're flying. It's where they're eating and

0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.800
<v Speaker 1>pooping and sleeping. Uh. And then you actually need to

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<v Speaker 1>land on the Moon, and you don't do that in

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<v Speaker 1>the command module. You do that in the lunar module.

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<v Speaker 1>But those two guys have to connect, right, So the

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<v Speaker 1>command module and the lunar module for launch are facing

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<v Speaker 1>the same direction. But once they get out into a

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<v Speaker 1>lunar trajectory, I and I could not find why they

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<v Speaker 1>designed it like this. You couldn't either. But the the

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<v Speaker 1>lunar module, that thing that you've seen laying on the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon that looked just totally ungangly ungainly um had to

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<v Speaker 1>blast off and it was tethered m It blasted off,

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<v Speaker 1>turned around, and then redocked with the command module. Knows

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<v Speaker 1>to know. I don't think I'm surprised that there had

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<v Speaker 1>to be something they just couldn't figure out a work around. Four.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to know anybody who knows, please write

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<v Speaker 1>in because I was looking all over for but consider this, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>You had two pieces of equipment that we're facing the

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<v Speaker 1>same direction and you had to turn one around and

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<v Speaker 1>face the other one in space at twenty five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>miles per hour. So that's pretty impressive that they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to do in the sixties, right, So this was

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<v Speaker 1>this was Apollo nine was the first to show this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is working, like this is going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did that, and then Apollo ten was the one.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the last one in the dress rehearsal. The

0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Apollo ten astronauts you could call them um understudies, I guess,

0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.000
<v Speaker 1>so just really took it for the team. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they did everything but touchdown on the Moon. Yeah, they

0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.240
<v Speaker 1>brought that. So they did this whole docking procedure where

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<v Speaker 1>the the lunar module was blasted off and turned around

0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and nose the nose connected to the command module, and

0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.200
<v Speaker 1>then they did the lunar landing thing where they blasted

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<v Speaker 1>off the lunar module, brought it down within fifty feet

0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.160
<v Speaker 1>of the moon surface, and then took it back up

0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and redoct again. I wonder if they were like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>right there, maybe we should just I wonder too. Surely

0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.240
<v Speaker 1>they joked at least, yeah, probably, but there's probably a

0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of humor going on. I would hope so. But

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<v Speaker 1>the whole mission, though, is you've got this this command

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<v Speaker 1>module and the lunar module and the command module. When

0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the lunar module goes down to the Moon and then

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<v Speaker 1>back up, the command modules just flying around in a

0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:43.440
<v Speaker 1>lunar orbit waiting to rendezvous again. So they did everything

0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.439
<v Speaker 1>but touchdown and then they came back. And when they

0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.399
<v Speaker 1>came back, they said, we're ready. This is it that

0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.840
<v Speaker 1>we're ready? Yeah, hint hint uh. And that was like

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<v Speaker 1>two months before A followed eleven left it off. Should

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<v Speaker 1>we take a break? I think so? All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a break and talk about the stars of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Polo eleven. I also want to shout out Apollo ten,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. Um, So, with Apollo eleven, the command

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<v Speaker 1>module was named Colombia and the lunar module was famously

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<v Speaker 1>named Eagle. In Apollo ten, the command module was Charlie

0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Brown and the lunar module was Snoopy, which I love.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty sweet. Yeah, so everyone knows the three human

0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.560
<v Speaker 1>beings that we sent up in Apollo eleven Commander Neil Armstrong,

0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Lunar module pilot Buzz Aldrin, and the other guy, I know,

0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.840
<v Speaker 1>poor Michael Collins. Yeah, Command module pilot, Michael Collins, and

0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you really like we want to sing his praises because

0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:10.800
<v Speaker 1>it stinks to be known as the other guy. I

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.880
<v Speaker 1>would imagine everyone remembers those other two names. Ask Roger Daltry.

0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:20.240
<v Speaker 1>They got what they got to, uh, walk around on

0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the moon while Michael Collins essentially babysat the command module

0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.800
<v Speaker 1>in the command module eating ho hoes, waiting for them

0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to come back. That's that's unselfish, extremely and I'm sure

0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.439
<v Speaker 1>they were assigned these roles because of their you know

0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.080
<v Speaker 1>what they had trained for. But to be the guy

0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.240
<v Speaker 1>that's like, yeah, you know what, that's okay, Yeah, I'll

0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.680
<v Speaker 1>be number three. That's what he did, though. He sat

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:44.560
<v Speaker 1>up there with the command module and made sure it's

0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.040
<v Speaker 1>stayed in orbit and that's right, just waited for the

0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:51.159
<v Speaker 1>dudes to come back. So hats off to you, Michael Collins. Alright,

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:56.440
<v Speaker 1>So July in the morning, I'm so excited Apollo eleven

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<v Speaker 1>lists off from JF Case Base Center at Cape Canaveral.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no, no coincidence there. He said, our go get

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:11.199
<v Speaker 1>him and name it after me. So it was a

0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it was a huge moment um for the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the space race, you know, if it

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.240
<v Speaker 1>all went well, if it all went well. So remember

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:24.240
<v Speaker 1>we practiced everything up to the actual landing. We'll get

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.679
<v Speaker 1>to the landing in a second, but um buzz Aldern

0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.080
<v Speaker 1>later said that he was the most worried about the

0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.240
<v Speaker 1>landing because they were the most unknowns, the most questions remaining,

0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.720
<v Speaker 1>because it was the one thing that hadn't been studied

0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and practiced and done before, and it was up to

0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.800
<v Speaker 1>these guys. This is the last thing, the last part

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of this whole thing, and no one had done it.

0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 1>And so when they took off at two they went through.

0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Everything just went perfectly. The first stage fired fine, second

0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 1>stage fired fine. The third stage got him into a

0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.879
<v Speaker 1>lunar trajectory. And I think they traveled this two and

0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight thousand miles uh over about two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half days before they started to reach lunar orbit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so on July nineteenth is when they enter that orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>They spent about a day there. Um sort of, you know,

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.959
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of checking on things you don't just

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, like plow ahead with her your plan. You

0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.199
<v Speaker 1>take a day once you get up there to make

0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:23.640
<v Speaker 1>sure everything's working there, checking the communication systems, and basically

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 1>preparing for the big uh, the big show to come,

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.720
<v Speaker 1>convincing Michael Collins that he couldn't come. Sorry, still drawing

0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 1>straws up there in the orbit. So here was the

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of cool thing that I think, maybe if you

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know this full story that's really pretty remarkable is

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<v Speaker 1>the lunar module was supposed to basically land on autopilot,

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.240
<v Speaker 1>but they saw where they were headed. Uh they didn't

0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Moon doesn't have atmosphere. They had never

0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 1>really done this, so they didn't know exactly how to

0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 1>calculate their altitude and air speed and realize in short

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:03.080
<v Speaker 1>order they were ahead toward a crater with very steep,

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 1>sharp rims, and landing either on those rims or down

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>in that crater was no good. So Neil Armstrong said,

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.840
<v Speaker 1>screw it, I'm gonna fly this baby down. He did.

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.400
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't even the lunar module pilot. He just took over,

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I guess as commander because if they were going to

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.320
<v Speaker 1>crash it was gonna be on him. I need to

0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>see this movie. Have you seen it? No, not yet.

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.879
<v Speaker 1>And there's another documentary I think just called Apollo eleven

0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that's coming out. Oh, it'll have been out because we're

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.240
<v Speaker 1>releasing this around the anniversary. So I think it came

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<v Speaker 1>out in late June, maybe on CNN or something, right, Yeah, So, um,

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>so Armstrong had to take over the controls and again,

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>no one had ever done this before. And this guy

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:50.159
<v Speaker 1>is landing a lunar module basically manually, and this was unscheduled.

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.760
<v Speaker 1>He had to make the thing travel further away from

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the spot I was going to land. And so when

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they finally landed, um, they had something like thirty seconds

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:01.720
<v Speaker 1>of fuel left nuts and it was a little hairy.

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And there was a very famous quote that came out

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of the eagle. Lander said Houston, this is Tranquility Base.

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>The Eagle has landed and Tranquility or Houston said, thank goodness. Yeah,

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Houston actually said, you got a bunch of guys about

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to turn blue. We're breathing again. Uh. And funny enough,

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that was Charlie Duke who wasn't he was the capcom

0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>on the ground in Houston, but he would later be

0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 1>up in the air and Apollo sixteen pretty neat, and

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet he was wearing a tie with short sleeve

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:39.640
<v Speaker 1>dress button shirt, probably so that all those guys bore. Yeah,

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the problem back then was you could never tell car

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>salesman apart from regular people, right from an engineer, a teacher.

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I bet your dad rocked that look. Oh well into

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the nineties with the old pocket protector. So they landed

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and uh, they were gonna abort their mission right there

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and go right back up. Well, no, they set it

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>up so that they could abort at the drop of

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a head if they had to. I think it was

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>part of the Okay, I thought they were going to abort. No, No,

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I think they they The first thing they did was

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 1>prepare for an abort the chase something went wrong, they

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have to prepare to abort, ex press the button

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and take off, all right. I thought. I got down

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.639
<v Speaker 1>there was like, let's go back up. I'm having second

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>thoughts about being the first person to walk on the moon.

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Well that that actually doesn't make a lot more sense

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>in because what they were supposed to do was take

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>a four hour rest um for safety. But they were

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>all itching to go, so they were like, no, we're

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna work through this. It still took about four hours

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>just to get out onto the Moon, but they were

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>hard at work the whole time. They weren't taking a snooze. Yeah,

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>which I guess men it would have taken them eight

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 1>hours had they taken that snooze, but they did take

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>a snooze later on. Yeah, that's that's something that I

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize about the moon laning. They spend a total

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of twenty one hours on the Moon, and only two

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and a half hours of it out walking round on

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the Moon. The rest of the time they were in

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the lunar module, including uh, seven and a half hours

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>of sleep. I guess. I mean they needed it. So

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, how did they sleep? And I thought,

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I've got it. Drugs. I'll bet they took drugs. They

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>did not. They had sixteen tablets of seeking all on them.

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>They took zero, although later um later lunar landers would

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>would take a significant amount of seeking all, but Buzz

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Aldrin and um Neil Armstrong didn't take any seeking, although

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>they did take decks of dream tablets during the mission,

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.160
<v Speaker 1>so they were pepped up, which is hilarious, which means

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 1>they probably crashed. I guess so, but they were not

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>in any shape to sleep, but they still slept for

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half hours. I bet that's some of

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the quiet as sleep. I don't know. I just I

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>would be too excited. But yeah, I guess so. Maybe

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>just being there and having already gone and walked out

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>on the moon when you come back in ready for

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:01.199
<v Speaker 1>a rest. Yeah. So six undred fifty million people watched this.

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 1>It's about a fifth of the world's population at the time. Um.

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong spent about twenty minutes out there by himself, which

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I imagine was something else. It's not like Aldrin crashed

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>his party on but twenty minutes out on the moon

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>by himself. Like, it's just it's hard to even fathom

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>what that was was like or it would be like

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 1>now even Um. Then Aldrin follows him down and his

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:29.880
<v Speaker 1>description of the lunar surface was magnificent desolation. I never

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>knew that before, did you. Yeah, i'd heard that. That's

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:36.919
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. And um they started working. They started collecting

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>samples surface material, moon rocks, uh, basically taking note notations

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 1>on like what the gravity was like, because it wasn't

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 1>no gravity. It was one six of the Earth's gravity,

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>so you know they they were able to hop around

0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and jump around. Have you have here in a swimming

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>pool kind of Yeah? Have you seen that footage of

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Jack Schmidt from a Polo seventeen. He keeps falling down.

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 1>He like had a collection backers putting stuff in and

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>he'd like drop it and he bent over and get

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>it and like kind of come back up and then

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.640
<v Speaker 1>like based almost summersault like he was having a really

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>hard time. And they figured out, like pretty quickly, you

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>can't just walk on the moon, especially in these space suits.

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 1>You have to hop, right, you have to hop but

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I think even hopping is not just like innate. Sure,

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>so you can fall over, but learning curve right. But

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I did not see that Buzz Aldrin or Neil Armstrong

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>fell down? Me, no fall down? Who was at the

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>fell Jack Schmidt from Apolo seventeen, Cletzy Jack that was

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>his name. Yeah, just like up astronaut falls down on

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the Moon and it's pretty fun to watch, especially if

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>you listen to Yakety Sacks and another tab. So he

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that American flag, that iconic flag drop um or

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>flag stick or flag rays what would you call that, uh,

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>all of the above, I don't know. Me poke. Uh,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a great drink too. By the way, So the

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>pole went in um the first like six inches or

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>so very easily, and they're like, oh, this is a breeze.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>And then it hit something super hard and I guess

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, it's not so easy. So they had

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to lean the flag back. Uh well yeah, they kind of, Oh,

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 1>just wriggled it back and forth. Thank you, because I

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>realized people can't see what I was doing. But yeah,

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and in doing this, this is really important. In doing that,

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>they created ripples in this flag, and that's the that's

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>what moon hookes people point to there's no wind on

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the moon. Yeah, they're like, how is their wind? You idiots?

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Obviously this is here on Earth and that is the

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>That is the explanation that when they were wriggling it

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>back and forth created ripples, and that you can see

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>in footage the astronauts moving around the flag and the

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>flags ripples remain static. So no, there's not any wind

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>on the moon. But that's not when that did that

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to the flag on the moon. Yeah, and I saw

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>about six years ago they I feel pretty good that

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>most of those flags, what are their seven and all

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>six six I believe are still there. They should still

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>be there. I don't know how they would fall off

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>the moon, well, not fall off, but just the temperature

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>swings on the moon. There was a lot of surmising

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that they wouldn't have survived this stuff. Um but really yeah,

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and the solar radiation and everything. We'll we'll get to

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. But it did. Um. It did say

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>that they took a lot of pictures of the various

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>times of day and they think they have found I

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think they found Apollo eleven, but you know, it's

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>not like they can get it from the surface. So

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>these are all aerial shots. So they're comparing like shadows

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.959
<v Speaker 1>basically and saying, oh, well, it looks to me like

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>this is the flags. Really yeah, are they still standing

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>up to They think, well, I don't think you can tell, okay,

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>but if it's casting a shadow, it must be oh yeah,

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess that right. Yeah, very you need a job

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>at NASA, Jack, come in and be like, the shadow

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>proves its standing. But in all for Apollo eleven, they

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>collected about fifty pounds of lunar material, took a bunch

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of pictures, took two court tube samples, and um, like

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you said, spent what two and a half hours out

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>there just romping around, having a good time, having a

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>good time in twenty one hours total on the on

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the lunar surface. And then they after well after about

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty one hours, the lunar module went which no one realizes,

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but that's the sound that it makes in space. And

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it went up in rende vood with the the then

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>command module in a very uh passive, aggressively hostile Michael Collins.

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>He was very quiet for the rest of the trip.

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>But they docked a again. They docked like they the

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>docking procedure and after launch it, when it rendezvoused, it

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>docked with it. They got out and then they said,

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>so long Eagle, thanks for everything. Blasted it off again

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and just send it on a crash course to the

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Moon's surface. And where it's crash site is no one knows.

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>It's an unknown site. Um, but it's on there somewhere.

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's what they did, they said. They used the

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Eagle to go down, come back up, and then they

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>sent it back to Mama. So what happens on the

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>way back it's is it. There's two scenarios. It's either

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>those two guys can't stop talking about it and Michael

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Collins is just like yeah, yeah, or Michael Collins is like,

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>what was it like? Guys, what was it like? And

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you wouldn't understand. Yeah, we could, we could,

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>we could describe it, but it wouldn't make sense to

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>your brain. Yeah, those are people like the solar eclipse.

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Either one of these. That's a bad right. Yeah, you

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>really had to see totally, and you know, if you didn't,

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>then just forget it. That's a that's a bad outcome

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>for Michael Collins either way. Pretty bad um, but it's

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>amazing that they were able to not only read doc,

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>but they were able to splash down in Hawaii alive. Yeah,

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>there was one other part. So the command module technically

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>had another part, the service module, that had like the

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>oxygen in the water and all that stuff, and they

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.959
<v Speaker 1>they they scuttled that on the way back in and

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>then the just the command module made its entry back

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>into the Earth's atmosphere, going again about twenty five thousand

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:34.479
<v Speaker 1>miles per hour UM and heating up to something like

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>five thousand degrees fahrenheit and they had created this heat

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>shield that they knew worked because they tested it on

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>former or other Apollo missions. But I mean still, every

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>time you've got three guys in a little tiny capsule

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>going twenty five thousand miles an hour hurtling towards Earth

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>with the outside temperature of five thousand degrees, it's kind

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>of hairy. So yeah, when they splashed down off the

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>coast of Hawaii, it was a big, big deal. Like

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it had been. It had been successful and actually the

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the stated primary objective, the primary mission of Apollo eleven

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>was to send a human into space, land them on

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the Moon, and bring them back safely, the thing that

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Kennedy challenged the United States to do. And when they

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>splashed down and they were all safe and sound, Apollo

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>eleven was successful. Yeah. I think that, Uh, for all

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>these Apollo missions, the re entry is always the biggest Well,

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's tons of concerns, but re entry is

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>just so tough. And that they made this, uh they

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>made a basically a covering that was meant to be destroyed. Um,

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty ingenious sacrificial lamb. Yeah, it's like it's supposed

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to burn and everything inside should be okay, right, should be?

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine that feeling, man, I can't either. And

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the fear, like, I'm sure it is fearful, but I

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>wonder also, I feel like once you hit the atmosphere,

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you can starting to feel the speed you're going,

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>just just shaking, you know, out in space. I don't

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>believe you can feel any speed at all, but because

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>of the air pressure from the atmosphere, I mean, that's

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>how you feel that stuff. Right, Yeah, I met they

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 1>could not have felt anything else, but like we were

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>probably going to die here any second now, right Bob,

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>butther is at least one or two yeehawk, you think, yeah,

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.720
<v Speaker 1>should we take another break? All right, we'll talk about

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>some some of the other Apollo landings and then what's

0:34:29.120 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>going on today? Right after this? So Charles, as we

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>were researching this, um, I went and looked. I was like,

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>surely Michael Collins got another shot up in space. No? No,

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>well they made a movie about him. They did as

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 1>an Irish revolutionary. It was an anachronism. So they went

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>on his name sounded up familiar. They wanted to do

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Apollo twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen and seventeen, uh, and

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 1>all of them. You know, after eleven it was like

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 1>the mission is now too. I mean they got stuff

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 1>done on eleven, but each mission after that had very

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>specific goals that wasn't just just go up to the

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>moon and come back. Of those six, five of them

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>were successful, very famously. Apollo thirteen was not successful. It

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>was an aboarded mission that didn't land on the Moon,

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>but the other five did. And yeah, they were basically

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>really fun scientific journeys. Yeah, should we hit some of

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>these highlights? Yeah, I think Apollo fourteen is known for

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and Shepherd hitting golf balls. It's funny all the work

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>they did, and that's like the iconic scene as him

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>hitting golf balls. Yeah, and and some of the stuff

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that they're doing too. I mean, like that's NASA saying, like,

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>go find out how how easy it is to move

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>around in these suits. Right, So Shepherd's like, we'll hit

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>some golf balls up or like a golf course might

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>be nice up there one day, right, Yeah, he's gonna

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>carry Apolo fifteen was the first one where they used

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>that cool, super cool looking roving vehicle, the Lunar rover.

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.439
<v Speaker 1>That was really neat tore it up. Yeah, remember that

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>that cartoon doom Buggy. It was like Scooby Doo, but

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the instead of being a dog, Scooby Doo is a

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>doom Buggy. I don't remember that. You're not something wonder Bug?

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Are you? Okay? I think it was doom Buggy. Yeah,

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember wonder Bug. Wonder Bug was a doom Buggy.

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I could see there being more than one of these cartoons,

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody ripping off somebody else. Doom Buggies were big in

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the seventies, remember seeing those around? Oh yeah, I bet

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you could buy and buggy today for speed Buggy, Speed Buggy,

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Speed Buggy. All right, Yeah, it was a It was

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a cartoon from the sixties. Wonderbug was live action for

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the seventies. I'm sorry. Was it was? Did the did

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the doom Buggy talk or something like that? Or wonder Bug?

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you thinking of my mother the car? Maybe? I am? Okay?

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Let me see Apollo seventeen. I think is noted for

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>more lunar roving um. And then a very famous uh

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>famous quote as the last one? Who was it? Gean Sernin?

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>We leave as we came and God willing as we

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Yeah,

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>that was something that like, you know, the moon landings

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>were part of this space race that grew out of

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>this adversarial relationship of Cold War USSR and United States.

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>But I do have to say that America did it

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty classy when we got there, Like there were all

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>sorts of like, um, talk about peace for human kind

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and that you know, this is one small step for

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 1>a man, one giant leap for mankind. It wasn't like

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you safe or anything like that from the Moon. Yeah. Um,

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>So I I'm really heartened by the fact that that

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that's how it was done. It was meant to be

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>a mission to the Moon for human kind. I think

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of camaraderie with cosmonauts and astronauts

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>themselves somewhat. There was a lot of um, there's a

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of commemorative material up there commemorating cosmonauts both alive

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and dead, that American astronauts took up with them. Yeah.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's talk about the stuff, uh that we

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>brought back and left um from all these missions and

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>by the way, that last mission that's been back sense

0:38:55.760 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>no human has left lower Earth orbit. I bel eves.

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Since then, it's hard to believe. You'd think someone like

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>we would have done it for some reason. No, people,

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'll talk about it, but people just lost interest.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>It just became like whatever part of it was the

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Vietnam War for sure, but but I think it was

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>also just kind of like, Okay, we've done that a

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>few times. How many rock samples do you guys gonna

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>go get right? Wound me some other way? Well, and

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>it was expensive, and maybe the public sentimenting like how

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>how much money are we going to pour into getting

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 1>moon rocks probably a lot to do with it. So

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>all end, they carded back moon rocks now just samples

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>two pounds of moon rocks, core samples, pebbles, dust, sand um.

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.399
<v Speaker 1>And they you know, it helped them determine how old

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the moon was. That's not bad. No, They figured something

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like four point five three billion years or something like that.

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>And they also came up with the current um hypothesis

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 1>for how the Moon was formed that an object named

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>THEA about the size of Mars, collided with Earth early

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 1>on in Earth's formation and merged but also calved off

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the Moon. So the Moon was born from the Earth. Yes,

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty neat. Yep. So we left a lot of

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff though. Yeah, it's kind of like they didn't listen

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>to Sierra Club. Yeah, four thousand pounds of stuff that's

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>up there, and a lot of it is just gear equipment.

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean they seventies space vehicles. Yeah, but we just

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>left or junk up there basically. Yeah, there's a lot

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>of junk up there. And they said that they did

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that on purpose to to see what it would do,

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>see what happened to it. A lot of it. Some

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>of it was also um that they were It just

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>made sense to displace stuff. We didn't need to make

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.720
<v Speaker 1>room for the weight from these samples in moon rocks.

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>And it was also the sixties when you would just

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>go do a family picnic just like leave. Yeah, exactly,

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a big um. There was a debate and it

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>was finally put to rest. But for a while there

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:13.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody came across some some detail that there's nineties six

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Emesa's bags up there on the moon, and Amesa's bag

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>is what you pee, poop or vomit into if you're

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>an astronaut, and so somebody said, oh my god, there's

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>nineties six bags of poop and urine and vomit sitting

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>up on the moon. That's disgusting. And that was that

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that's what everybody thought for a very long time. And

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>then uh NASA Lunar archivist said no, absolutely not. Um,

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>nobody's puked on the moon. For one, only three guys

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>have puked in space, and none of them were on

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the moon. Um. Not only did uh Aldrin and Armstrong

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>not poop, they actually took a drug to keep them

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>from pooping while they were on their lunar mission, emodium.

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Aldrin did p but there's no evidence that he left

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>his bag behind. So they think that these nineties six

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and mesas bags are all empty bags. That were like,

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>we didn't need this because we don't vomit. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.399
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. But that was a that's a that's

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>an urban legend, right, Ripley's Ripley's believe it or not.

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Websites steered me wrong at first, and then I got

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>steered right by I think slate somebody look good for them. Uh.

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 1>There are some commemorative items. Besides just the flags, there

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>are plaques kind of all over the place. Aldrin and

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Armstrong left one that said we came in peace for

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>all mankind. A little on the nose, but still a

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:45.560
<v Speaker 1>nice sentiment. Um a disc with seventy three messages from

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>countries all over the world micro etched. Yeah, just to

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>show off more technology of the sixties. Like you said earlier,

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>they honored their Rushiman Russian cosmonaut Um counterparts I guess

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with metals uh. And then a symbol of the U. S.

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Eagle carrying an olive branch yep. And then you know,

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>they all left stuff when they went up there, including

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Douke who I talked about from Apollo sixteen. He

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>took a picture of his family and left it behind.

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>So what are you gonna do, NASA administrators? Nothing? Yeah,

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>so he left behind they think, now that's probably blank though.

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.720
<v Speaker 1>That's sad from the solar radiation. Yeah, and his family

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>subsequently disappeared. Yeah, they come back to the future, right,

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Their souls are trapped on the Moon forever. Something else

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>was smuggled too, though, right, Um that one of a

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>commemorative plaque was smuggled PAULA fifteen. David Scott smuggled an

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>aluminum plaque. Why would he have to smuggle that? I

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know. They just had it was off the charter

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I guess. I don't know why. I know

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>one guy smuggled the sandwich points really, yeah, one of

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>him did. I can't remember. My brother Rose Beef, my

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>brother at one time smuggled the PBNJ into a Dark

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Straits concert. Yeah did he really? Yeah, it's kind of

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>We still laugh about it. One of the nerdiest things

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>ever was like three songs in when he's like, you

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>want a sandwich, he just starts unwrapping it. That's hilarious.

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>It's great wrapped in wax paper. I think it was

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.280
<v Speaker 1>so uh. Neither one of us were boy scouts actually,

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 1>because my brother would have owned that sure, and his

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 1>son went all the way through. Of course, way is

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>your brother envious? Is he like Michael Collins? Yeah, I

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>think so. Um. But here's the deal with all that

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff up there is, uh, lunar tourism is going to

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>be a thing at some point, So NASA actually had

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>to establish lunar heritage sites and rules like you can't

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>go within a certain amount with like don't go near

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>any of this stuff. Basically, if you see a rover,

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>just turn around and walk the other way, which is

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>like or hoped the other way. I guess, yeah, I

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>don't fall down. Man. Can you imagine like seeing a

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 1>lunar rover beyond due can't go over there, but on

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the moon to like just see oh my gosh, frozen

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>in time. It would be so Creepsville would be awesome. Yeah,

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 1>So what's going on these days? Well, so you said

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>there there, we haven't been back since to the moon,

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>which is really kind of astounding if you think about it.

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 1>But understandably, the political interest public interests a lot of

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>it waned. That means funding dried up. Um. And because

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the Moon kind of got left behind, NASA was like, well,

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 1>we'll just focus on lower Earth orbit stuff and really

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>went all in on the Shuttle program and then um

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>also on the International Space Station. Both again are in

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>lower Earth orbit, not in what you think of as

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>like outer space, right um. And then oh, the Obama

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>administration came no, I'm sorry. The the space Shuttle accident

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:52.320
<v Speaker 1>UM that blew up the Columbia UM in two thousand three,

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 1>UM caused George Bush to say, George W. Bush to say, hey,

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 1>we let's bounce back, let's go back to the moon

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>by and UM, that's not happening though, No, So the

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:10.280
<v Speaker 1>NASA got directed back to the Moon, and Obama's administration

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:13.359
<v Speaker 1>did an audit and found that NASA was so far

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>behind that we wouldn't make it back to the Moon

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>by so Obama said go to Mars instead. This is

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>this is par for the course for NASA. Every few

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 1>years they get a completely new directive to somewhere else

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>in the Solar System, and they have to scramble to

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:30.799
<v Speaker 1>like change plans, try to salvage whatever they were working on.

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.879
<v Speaker 1>And they've gotten kind of good at applying stuff they're

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:37.919
<v Speaker 1>working on to to basically fudge to say, okay, we're

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>working on this this Mars, this Mars launcher right now,

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the SLS, the Space Launch System, and yeah it can

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>get us to Mars, but we could really also go

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to the Moon with this thing too. They're cross trained, right. So, um,

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 1>after the Obama administration came along and said forget the Moon,

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>forget this Shuttle program, go to Mars. That started languaghing,

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 1>and then um the current administration said, let's go back

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.359
<v Speaker 1>to the Moon. The current administration said, what did Obama say?

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll do the opposite of that, right, So now the

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:14.400
<v Speaker 1>man now The current target date is mind bogglingly tight.

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>The the target is to put humans on the Moon

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>again in five years and four years after that establish

0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a moon base. That is extremely ambitious. Yeah, and I

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>think most people UM kind of acknowledge, like, you know,

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna hit that date, but hopefully NASA doesn't.

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>These are outsiders say they're on target. Well, even the

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>outsiders I think are saying, hopefully we'll be within a

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>few years of that. It's possible. I mean, one reason

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 1>why it is possible is because NASA today has a

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 1>thriving commercial space industry to work with, and they they

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:58.399
<v Speaker 1>are embracing wholehearted partnering with them. Now, how does that work.

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 1>They just pay those private firms a lot of money

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 1>to to tap their resources. Yeah, if you get a

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:09.399
<v Speaker 1>contract to build the lunar lander for NASA, you might

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.879
<v Speaker 1>as well just be printing money. Um. They I think

0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 1>the current administrator for NASA UM estimated recently that it

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>would be about thirty billion dollars to get back to

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the Moon. And they put out a call the designs

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 1>UM for designs for their lunar Lunar lander, and so

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Bezos, remember I went to New York to see

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Origin unveiling. That's what he was doing, was

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 1>unveiling their thing called Blue Moon. It's a lunar lander.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>It's got a flat top like kidn play, and um,

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you can put anything on it, a lunar rover, a

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 1>bunch of scientists, a lab, whatever you want, or pieces

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to a space base, a moon base and build it

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>slowly like that. Um, and it looks pretty good. Nice,

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and it runs on hydrogen, which is big because they're

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna start landing on the South Pole of the Moon,

0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>which is where they think permanent ices which can be mined, right, Yeah,

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:06.919
<v Speaker 1>they haven't. They haven't been to the South Pole first

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>of all with any of the Apollo missions, So that

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense to go there. And yeah,

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.280
<v Speaker 1>like you said, they got ice there. They can split

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that hydrogen and oxygen thanks to electrolysis, and then you

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 1>can make rocket fuel. So used to get back potentially. Yeah,

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean the the command module when it was orbiting

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the Moon, it was operating on liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>So this is like an old technology, but the new

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>thing is we would be mining it on the Moon. Amazing,

0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and the kind of the logical conclusion of that then

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 1>is if we can establish a permanent presence on the Moon.

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the new motto. So this program, which I think

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is kind of awesome, is called the Artemis program. This

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:51.319
<v Speaker 1>returned to the Moon sister to uh Apollo, right, which

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. But it's also the program that's expected to

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>put the first woman on the Moon, which right, pretty cool. Um,

0:49:57.480 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 1>But the the the way that they're saying is now

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.240
<v Speaker 1>we're going to return to the Moon and stay there.

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the point, Like, we're permanently returning to the

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Moon now. Um. So once we do that, we'll have

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a new place to launch an outer space I mean,

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:15.120
<v Speaker 1>remember how many pounds of thrust and how much fuel

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>that first stage of the Saturn took and then the

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 1>second stage. This doesn't require any of them. And so

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the plan is to build a small space station in

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>permanent orbit around the Moon that you fly out to

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 1>and then just like you keep a boat at your

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>lake house tied up, they're gonna keep a lunar lander

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:37.360
<v Speaker 1>tied up to that to that um that that space station,

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and you just kind of go back and forth to

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the Moon using that. Amazing, it is pretty amazing. And

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about doing this in five years. Can you

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 1>imagine the equality of video and audio that we're gonna get.

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be great. It's gonna be pretty sweet. And

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I've seen that there are starting to like you were

0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about with commercial tourism, Like I saw something like

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:02.320
<v Speaker 1>five million. Can at you to the moon? It's pretty

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>soon the moon or just orbiting the moon. Oh, I'm

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 1>sorry to the to the space station. The I S

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:10.359
<v Speaker 1>S five million, which is not bad because they wanted

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to charge Lance Bass like thirty million or something crazy

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It's like HDTVs back in the day. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that price is gonna just keep coming down everybody. Pretty

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<v Speaker 1>soon you're gonna be able to go to the moon

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<v Speaker 1>for cool even Lance Basking afford that you got anything else, no, sir, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations to the world for fifty years of having been

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<v Speaker 1>on the moon the first time. I'm proud of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And since Chuck said hooray, that means it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for a listener. May I'm gonna call this one I've

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<v Speaker 1>been meaning to read for a while. We did a

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<v Speaker 1>show about Live Aid and do they know it's Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>And we're like, we love that song. Who doesn't love

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<v Speaker 1>that song? It turns out a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>love that song really because the message is flawed. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah when you look at the lyrics. Uh, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll listen to the show on Live Aid and the

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<v Speaker 1>song do they know it's Christmas? What? That's such a

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<v Speaker 1>great song. Call me a fuddy duddy. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>hear is this, There won't be any snow in Africa

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<v Speaker 1>this Christmas time. The greatest gift they'll get this year

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<v Speaker 1>is life. And he went, oh, I think, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>where nothing ever grows. It's like, that's not possible. Africa's

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<v Speaker 1>is large cottin it with lots of growing things. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>no rains or rivers flow. Ever heard of the Nile?

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<v Speaker 1>That's North Africa? Um? He said. Basically, it treats Africa

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<v Speaker 1>as a single, homogeneous region when in fact it's incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>large and diverse, ignores the fact that most of Africa's

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<v Speaker 1>in the southern hemisphere, so Christmas is in the summer there,

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<v Speaker 1>and assumes that lack of knowledge of Christmas is a

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<v Speaker 1>flaw caused by lack of resources in good weather, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than a reasonable cultural difference. Considering the large Uh that

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<v Speaker 1>a large percentage of Africans are not Christian. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is taking the do they know it's Christmas? Literally? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people wrote in about this. I gotta say,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the point of the lyrics was they have

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<v Speaker 1>so much hardship in front of their faces. Are they

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<v Speaker 1>even aware that Christmas time has come? The holiday spirit

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<v Speaker 1>in season hasn't even shown up there because there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much hardship. That's the point of the lyrics. Come on.

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<v Speaker 1>He finishes by saying this, it's okay if you like

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<v Speaker 1>the song it's sketchy, but please don't claim that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>should like it. Everyone should like that song. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>anonymous from a bunch of people. I bet you're anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh well, thank you for writing. And we always love

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<v Speaker 1>opposing opinions, right, thanks bo Yeah right, He's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>my lyrics had been accepted, it would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>much better song. Uh well, if you want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that something we like is actually heinous, we love

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