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Speaker 1: in Chicago. Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production

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Speaker 1: of I Heart Radios. How Stuff Works, Hey, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck,

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Speaker 1: Brian over there, and there's Jerry over there, and this

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Speaker 1: is coming up on the fiftieth anniversary Chuck of the

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Speaker 1: first time humans ever set foot on the Moon. One

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Speaker 1: small step for podcasts. Oh wow, giant or podcasting. That's

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Speaker 1: a that's a really good nail, Arnce Sean, Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: that was dumb. I liked it though. I think this

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Speaker 1: did we do that silliness so long ago? Two? That

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Speaker 1: this is a good companion of the Space Race one.

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Speaker 1: was reading about that, that transmission and the the it's

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Speaker 1: Well that that actually doesn't make a lot more sense

427
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: in because what they were supposed to do was take

428
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: a four hour rest um for safety. But they were

429
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: all itching to go, so they were like, no, we're

430
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: gonna work through this. It still took about four hours

431
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: just to get out onto the Moon, but they were

432
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: hard at work the whole time. They weren't taking a snooze. Yeah,

433
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: which I guess men it would have taken them eight

434
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: hours had they taken that snooze, but they did take

435
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: a snooze later on. Yeah, that's that's something that I

436
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: didn't realize about the moon laning. They spend a total

437
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: of twenty one hours on the Moon, and only two

438
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: and a half hours of it out walking round on

439
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: the Moon. The rest of the time they were in

440
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: the lunar module, including uh, seven and a half hours

441
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: of sleep. I guess. I mean they needed it. So

442
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: I was like, how did they sleep? And I thought,

443
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: I've got it. Drugs. I'll bet they took drugs. They

444
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: did not. They had sixteen tablets of seeking all on them.

445
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: They took zero, although later um later lunar landers would

446
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: would take a significant amount of seeking all, but Buzz

447
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: Aldrin and um Neil Armstrong didn't take any seeking, although

448
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: they did take decks of dream tablets during the mission,

449
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: so they were pepped up, which is hilarious, which means

450
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: they probably crashed. I guess so, but they were not

451
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: in any shape to sleep, but they still slept for

452
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: seven and a half hours. I bet that's some of

453
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: the quiet as sleep. I don't know. I just I

454
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: would be too excited. But yeah, I guess so. Maybe

455
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 1: just being there and having already gone and walked out

456
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: on the moon when you come back in ready for

457
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: a rest. Yeah. So six undred fifty million people watched this.

458
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: It's about a fifth of the world's population at the time. Um.

459
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: Armstrong spent about twenty minutes out there by himself, which

460
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: I imagine was something else. It's not like Aldrin crashed

461
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: his party on but twenty minutes out on the moon

462
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: by himself. Like, it's just it's hard to even fathom

463
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: what that was was like or it would be like

464
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: now even Um. Then Aldrin follows him down and his

465
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: description of the lunar surface was magnificent desolation. I never

466
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: knew that before, did you. Yeah, i'd heard that. That's

467
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And um they started working. They started collecting

468
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: samples surface material, moon rocks, uh, basically taking note notations

469
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: on like what the gravity was like, because it wasn't

470
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: no gravity. It was one six of the Earth's gravity,

471
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: so you know they they were able to hop around

472
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: and jump around. Have you have here in a swimming

473
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: pool kind of Yeah? Have you seen that footage of

474
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: Jack Schmidt from a Polo seventeen. He keeps falling down.

475
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: He like had a collection backers putting stuff in and

476
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: he'd like drop it and he bent over and get

477
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: it and like kind of come back up and then

478
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: like based almost summersault like he was having a really

479
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: hard time. And they figured out, like pretty quickly, you

480
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: can't just walk on the moon, especially in these space suits.

481
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: You have to hop, right, you have to hop but

482
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: I think even hopping is not just like innate. Sure,

483
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: so you can fall over, but learning curve right. But

484
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: I did not see that Buzz Aldrin or Neil Armstrong

485
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: fell down? Me, no fall down? Who was at the

486
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: fell Jack Schmidt from Apolo seventeen, Cletzy Jack that was

487
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: his name. Yeah, just like up astronaut falls down on

488
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: the Moon and it's pretty fun to watch, especially if

489
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: you listen to Yakety Sacks and another tab. So he

490
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: mentioned that American flag, that iconic flag drop um or

491
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: flag stick or flag rays what would you call that, uh,

492
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: all of the above, I don't know. Me poke. Uh,

493
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: that's a great drink too. By the way, So the

494
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: pole went in um the first like six inches or

495
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: so very easily, and they're like, oh, this is a breeze.

496
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: And then it hit something super hard and I guess

497
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it's not so easy. So they had

498
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: to lean the flag back. Uh well yeah, they kind of, Oh,

499
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: just wriggled it back and forth. Thank you, because I

500
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: realized people can't see what I was doing. But yeah,

501
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: and in doing this, this is really important. In doing that,

502
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: they created ripples in this flag, and that's the that's

503
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: what moon hookes people point to there's no wind on

504
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: the moon. Yeah, they're like, how is their wind? You idiots?

505
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Obviously this is here on Earth and that is the

506
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: That is the explanation that when they were wriggling it

507
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: back and forth created ripples, and that you can see

508
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: in footage the astronauts moving around the flag and the

509
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: flags ripples remain static. So no, there's not any wind

510
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: on the moon. But that's not when that did that

511
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: to the flag on the moon. Yeah, and I saw

512
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: about six years ago they I feel pretty good that

513
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: most of those flags, what are their seven and all

514
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: six six I believe are still there. They should still

515
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: be there. I don't know how they would fall off

516
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: the moon, well, not fall off, but just the temperature

517
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: swings on the moon. There was a lot of surmising

518
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't have survived this stuff. Um but really yeah,

519
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: and the solar radiation and everything. We'll we'll get to

520
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But it did. Um. It did say

521
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: that they took a lot of pictures of the various

522
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: times of day and they think they have found I

523
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: don't think they found Apollo eleven, but you know, it's

524
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: not like they can get it from the surface. So

525
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: these are all aerial shots. So they're comparing like shadows

526
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: basically and saying, oh, well, it looks to me like

527
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: this is the flags. Really yeah, are they still standing

528
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: up to They think, well, I don't think you can tell, okay,

529
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: but if it's casting a shadow, it must be oh yeah,

530
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: I guess that right. Yeah, very you need a job

531
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: at NASA, Jack, come in and be like, the shadow

532
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: proves its standing. But in all for Apollo eleven, they

533
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: collected about fifty pounds of lunar material, took a bunch

534
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: of pictures, took two court tube samples, and um, like

535
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: you said, spent what two and a half hours out

536
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: there just romping around, having a good time, having a

537
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: good time in twenty one hours total on the on

538
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: the lunar surface. And then they after well after about

539
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: twenty one hours, the lunar module went which no one realizes,

540
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: but that's the sound that it makes in space. And

541
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: it went up in rende vood with the the then

542
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: command module in a very uh passive, aggressively hostile Michael Collins.

543
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: He was very quiet for the rest of the trip.

544
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: But they docked a again. They docked like they the

545
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: docking procedure and after launch it, when it rendezvoused, it

546
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: docked with it. They got out and then they said,

547
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: so long Eagle, thanks for everything. Blasted it off again

548
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: and just send it on a crash course to the

549
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: Moon's surface. And where it's crash site is no one knows.

550
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: It's an unknown site. Um, but it's on there somewhere.

551
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: But that's what they did, they said. They used the

552
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: Eagle to go down, come back up, and then they

553
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: sent it back to Mama. So what happens on the

554
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: way back it's is it. There's two scenarios. It's either

555
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: those two guys can't stop talking about it and Michael

556
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: Collins is just like yeah, yeah, or Michael Collins is like,

557
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: what was it like? Guys, what was it like? And

558
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: they're like, you wouldn't understand. Yeah, we could, we could,

559
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: we could describe it, but it wouldn't make sense to

560
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: your brain. Yeah, those are people like the solar eclipse.

561
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: Either one of these. That's a bad right. Yeah, you

562
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: really had to see totally, and you know, if you didn't,

563
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: then just forget it. That's a that's a bad outcome

564
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: for Michael Collins either way. Pretty bad um, but it's

565
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: amazing that they were able to not only read doc,

566
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: but they were able to splash down in Hawaii alive. Yeah,

567
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: there was one other part. So the command module technically

568
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: had another part, the service module, that had like the

569
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: oxygen in the water and all that stuff, and they

570
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: they they scuttled that on the way back in and

571
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: then the just the command module made its entry back

572
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: into the Earth's atmosphere, going again about twenty five thousand

573
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: miles per hour UM and heating up to something like

574
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: five thousand degrees fahrenheit and they had created this heat

575
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: shield that they knew worked because they tested it on

576
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: former or other Apollo missions. But I mean still, every

577
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: time you've got three guys in a little tiny capsule

578
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: going twenty five thousand miles an hour hurtling towards Earth

579
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: with the outside temperature of five thousand degrees, it's kind

580
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: of hairy. So yeah, when they splashed down off the

581
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: coast of Hawaii, it was a big, big deal. Like

582
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: it had been. It had been successful and actually the

583
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: the stated primary objective, the primary mission of Apollo eleven

584
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: was to send a human into space, land them on

585
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: the Moon, and bring them back safely, the thing that

586
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 1: Kennedy challenged the United States to do. And when they

587
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: splashed down and they were all safe and sound, Apollo

588
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: eleven was successful. Yeah. I think that, Uh, for all

589
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: these Apollo missions, the re entry is always the biggest Well,

590
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: I mean there's tons of concerns, but re entry is

591
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: just so tough. And that they made this, uh they

592
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: made a basically a covering that was meant to be destroyed. Um,

593
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: it's pretty ingenious sacrificial lamb. Yeah, it's like it's supposed

594
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: to burn and everything inside should be okay, right, should be?

595
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that feeling, man, I can't either. And

596
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: the fear, like, I'm sure it is fearful, but I

597
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: wonder also, I feel like once you hit the atmosphere,

598
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: I'll bet you can starting to feel the speed you're going,

599
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: just just shaking, you know, out in space. I don't

600
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: believe you can feel any speed at all, but because

601
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: of the air pressure from the atmosphere, I mean, that's

602
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: how you feel that stuff. Right, Yeah, I met they

603
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: could not have felt anything else, but like we were

604
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: probably going to die here any second now, right Bob,

605
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: butther is at least one or two yeehawk, you think, yeah,

606
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: should we take another break? All right, we'll talk about

607
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: some some of the other Apollo landings and then what's

608
00:34:29,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: going on today? Right after this? So Charles, as we

609
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: were researching this, um, I went and looked. I was like,

610
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: surely Michael Collins got another shot up in space. No? No,

611
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: well they made a movie about him. They did as

612
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: an Irish revolutionary. It was an anachronism. So they went

613
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: on his name sounded up familiar. They wanted to do

614
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: Apollo twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen and seventeen, uh, and

615
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: all of them. You know, after eleven it was like

616
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: the mission is now too. I mean they got stuff

617
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: done on eleven, but each mission after that had very

618
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: specific goals that wasn't just just go up to the

619
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: moon and come back. Of those six, five of them

620
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: were successful, very famously. Apollo thirteen was not successful. It

621
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: was an aboarded mission that didn't land on the Moon,

622
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: but the other five did. And yeah, they were basically

623
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: really fun scientific journeys. Yeah, should we hit some of

624
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: these highlights? Yeah, I think Apollo fourteen is known for

625
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: and Shepherd hitting golf balls. It's funny all the work

626
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: they did, and that's like the iconic scene as him

627
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: hitting golf balls. Yeah, and and some of the stuff

628
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: that they're doing too. I mean, like that's NASA saying, like,

629
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: go find out how how easy it is to move

630
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: around in these suits. Right, So Shepherd's like, we'll hit

631
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: some golf balls up or like a golf course might

632
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: be nice up there one day, right, Yeah, he's gonna

633
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: carry Apolo fifteen was the first one where they used

634
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: that cool, super cool looking roving vehicle, the Lunar rover.

635
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: That was really neat tore it up. Yeah, remember that

636
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: that cartoon doom Buggy. It was like Scooby Doo, but

637
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: the instead of being a dog, Scooby Doo is a

638
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: doom Buggy. I don't remember that. You're not something wonder Bug?

639
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: Are you? Okay? I think it was doom Buggy. Yeah,

640
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: I remember wonder Bug. Wonder Bug was a doom Buggy.

641
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: I could see there being more than one of these cartoons,

642
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: somebody ripping off somebody else. Doom Buggies were big in

643
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: the seventies, remember seeing those around? Oh yeah, I bet

644
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: you could buy and buggy today for speed Buggy, Speed Buggy,

645
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Speed Buggy. All right, Yeah, it was a It was

646
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: a cartoon from the sixties. Wonderbug was live action for

647
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: the seventies. I'm sorry. Was it was? Did the did

648
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: the doom Buggy talk or something like that? Or wonder Bug?

649
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: Are you thinking of my mother the car? Maybe? I am? Okay?

650
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: Let me see Apollo seventeen. I think is noted for

651
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: more lunar roving um. And then a very famous uh

652
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: famous quote as the last one? Who was it? Gean Sernin?

653
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: We leave as we came and God willing as we

654
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Yeah,

655
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: that was something that like, you know, the moon landings

656
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: were part of this space race that grew out of

657
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: this adversarial relationship of Cold War USSR and United States.

658
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: But I do have to say that America did it

659
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: pretty classy when we got there, Like there were all

660
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: sorts of like, um, talk about peace for human kind

661
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: and that you know, this is one small step for

662
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: a man, one giant leap for mankind. It wasn't like

663
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: you safe or anything like that from the Moon. Yeah. Um,

664
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: So I I'm really heartened by the fact that that

665
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: that's how it was done. It was meant to be

666
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: a mission to the Moon for human kind. I think

667
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: there was a lot of camaraderie with cosmonauts and astronauts

668
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: themselves somewhat. There was a lot of um, there's a

669
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: lot of commemorative material up there commemorating cosmonauts both alive

670
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: and dead, that American astronauts took up with them. Yeah.

671
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about the stuff, uh that we

672
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: brought back and left um from all these missions and

673
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: by the way, that last mission that's been back sense

674
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: no human has left lower Earth orbit. I bel eves.

675
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: Since then, it's hard to believe. You'd think someone like

676
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: we would have done it for some reason. No, people,

677
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll talk about it, but people just lost interest.

678
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: It just became like whatever part of it was the

679
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Vietnam War for sure, but but I think it was

680
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: also just kind of like, Okay, we've done that a

681
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: few times. How many rock samples do you guys gonna

682
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: go get right? Wound me some other way? Well, and

683
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: it was expensive, and maybe the public sentimenting like how

684
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: how much money are we going to pour into getting

685
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: moon rocks probably a lot to do with it. So

686
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: all end, they carded back moon rocks now just samples

687
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: two pounds of moon rocks, core samples, pebbles, dust, sand um.

688
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: And they you know, it helped them determine how old

689
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: the moon was. That's not bad. No, They figured something

690
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: like four point five three billion years or something like that.

691
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: And they also came up with the current um hypothesis

692
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: for how the Moon was formed that an object named

693
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: THEA about the size of Mars, collided with Earth early

694
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: on in Earth's formation and merged but also calved off

695
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: the Moon. So the Moon was born from the Earth. Yes,

696
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: that's pretty neat. Yep. So we left a lot of

697
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: stuff though. Yeah, it's kind of like they didn't listen

698
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: to Sierra Club. Yeah, four thousand pounds of stuff that's

699
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: up there, and a lot of it is just gear equipment.

700
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: I mean they seventies space vehicles. Yeah, but we just

701
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: left or junk up there basically. Yeah, there's a lot

702
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: of junk up there. And they said that they did

703
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: that on purpose to to see what it would do,

704
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: see what happened to it. A lot of it. Some

705
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: of it was also um that they were It just

706
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: made sense to displace stuff. We didn't need to make

707
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: room for the weight from these samples in moon rocks.

708
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: And it was also the sixties when you would just

709
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: go do a family picnic just like leave. Yeah, exactly,

710
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: there's a big um. There was a debate and it

711
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: was finally put to rest. But for a while there

712
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: somebody came across some some detail that there's nineties six

713
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: Emesa's bags up there on the moon, and Amesa's bag

714
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: is what you pee, poop or vomit into if you're

715
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: an astronaut, and so somebody said, oh my god, there's

716
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: nineties six bags of poop and urine and vomit sitting

717
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: up on the moon. That's disgusting. And that was that

718
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: that's what everybody thought for a very long time. And

719
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: then uh NASA Lunar archivist said no, absolutely not. Um,

720
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: nobody's puked on the moon. For one, only three guys

721
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: have puked in space, and none of them were on

722
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: the moon. Um. Not only did uh Aldrin and Armstrong

723
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: not poop, they actually took a drug to keep them

724
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: from pooping while they were on their lunar mission, emodium.

725
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Aldrin did p but there's no evidence that he left

726
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: his bag behind. So they think that these nineties six

727
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: and mesas bags are all empty bags. That were like,

728
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: we didn't need this because we don't vomit. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

729
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But that was a that's a that's

730
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: an urban legend, right, Ripley's Ripley's believe it or not.

731
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: Websites steered me wrong at first, and then I got

732
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: steered right by I think slate somebody look good for them. Uh.

733
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: There are some commemorative items. Besides just the flags, there

734
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: are plaques kind of all over the place. Aldrin and

735
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: Armstrong left one that said we came in peace for

736
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: all mankind. A little on the nose, but still a

737
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: nice sentiment. Um a disc with seventy three messages from

738
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: countries all over the world micro etched. Yeah, just to

739
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: show off more technology of the sixties. Like you said earlier,

740
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: they honored their Rushiman Russian cosmonaut Um counterparts I guess

741
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: with metals uh. And then a symbol of the U. S.

742
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: Eagle carrying an olive branch yep. And then you know,

743
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: they all left stuff when they went up there, including

744
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: Charlie Douke who I talked about from Apollo sixteen. He

745
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: took a picture of his family and left it behind.

746
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do, NASA administrators? Nothing? Yeah,

747
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: so he left behind they think, now that's probably blank though.

748
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 1: That's sad from the solar radiation. Yeah, and his family

749
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: subsequently disappeared. Yeah, they come back to the future, right,

750
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: Their souls are trapped on the Moon forever. Something else

751
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: was smuggled too, though, right, Um that one of a

752
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: commemorative plaque was smuggled PAULA fifteen. David Scott smuggled an

753
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: aluminum plaque. Why would he have to smuggle that? I

754
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: don't know. They just had it was off the charter

755
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. I guess. I don't know why. I know

756
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: one guy smuggled the sandwich points really, yeah, one of

757
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: him did. I can't remember. My brother Rose Beef, my

758
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: brother at one time smuggled the PBNJ into a Dark

759
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: Straits concert. Yeah did he really? Yeah, it's kind of

760
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: We still laugh about it. One of the nerdiest things

761
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: ever was like three songs in when he's like, you

762
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: want a sandwich, he just starts unwrapping it. That's hilarious.

763
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: It's great wrapped in wax paper. I think it was

764
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: so uh. Neither one of us were boy scouts actually,

765
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: because my brother would have owned that sure, and his

766
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: son went all the way through. Of course, way is

767
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: your brother envious? Is he like Michael Collins? Yeah, I

768
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: think so. Um. But here's the deal with all that

769
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: stuff up there is, uh, lunar tourism is going to

770
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: be a thing at some point, So NASA actually had

771
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: to establish lunar heritage sites and rules like you can't

772
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: go within a certain amount with like don't go near

773
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: any of this stuff. Basically, if you see a rover,

774
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: just turn around and walk the other way, which is

775
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: like or hoped the other way. I guess, yeah, I

776
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: don't fall down. Man. Can you imagine like seeing a

777
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: lunar rover beyond due can't go over there, but on

778
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: the moon to like just see oh my gosh, frozen

779
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: in time. It would be so Creepsville would be awesome. Yeah,

780
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: So what's going on these days? Well, so you said

781
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: there there, we haven't been back since to the moon,

782
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: which is really kind of astounding if you think about it.

783
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: But understandably, the political interest public interests a lot of

784
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: it waned. That means funding dried up. Um. And because

785
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: the Moon kind of got left behind, NASA was like, well,

786
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: we'll just focus on lower Earth orbit stuff and really

787
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: went all in on the Shuttle program and then um

788
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: also on the International Space Station. Both again are in

789
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: lower Earth orbit, not in what you think of as

790
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: like outer space, right um. And then oh, the Obama

791
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: administration came no, I'm sorry. The the space Shuttle accident

792
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: UM that blew up the Columbia UM in two thousand three,

793
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: UM caused George Bush to say, George W. Bush to say, hey,

794
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: we let's bounce back, let's go back to the moon

795
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: by and UM, that's not happening though, No, So the

796
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: NASA got directed back to the Moon, and Obama's administration

797
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: did an audit and found that NASA was so far

798
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: behind that we wouldn't make it back to the Moon

799
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: by so Obama said go to Mars instead. This is

800
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: this is par for the course for NASA. Every few

801
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: years they get a completely new directive to somewhere else

802
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: in the Solar System, and they have to scramble to

803
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: like change plans, try to salvage whatever they were working on.

804
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: And they've gotten kind of good at applying stuff they're

805
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: working on to to basically fudge to say, okay, we're

806
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: working on this this Mars, this Mars launcher right now,

807
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: the SLS, the Space Launch System, and yeah it can

808
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: get us to Mars, but we could really also go

809
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: to the Moon with this thing too. They're cross trained, right. So, um,

810
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: after the Obama administration came along and said forget the Moon,

811
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: forget this Shuttle program, go to Mars. That started languaghing,

812
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: and then um the current administration said, let's go back

813
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: to the Moon. The current administration said, what did Obama say?

814
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: We'll do the opposite of that, right, So now the

815
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: man now The current target date is mind bogglingly tight.

816
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: The the target is to put humans on the Moon

817
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: again in five years and four years after that establish

818
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: a moon base. That is extremely ambitious. Yeah, and I

819
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: think most people UM kind of acknowledge, like, you know,

820
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: we're not gonna hit that date, but hopefully NASA doesn't.

821
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: These are outsiders say they're on target. Well, even the

822
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: outsiders I think are saying, hopefully we'll be within a

823
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: few years of that. It's possible. I mean, one reason

824
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: why it is possible is because NASA today has a

825
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: thriving commercial space industry to work with, and they they

826
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: are embracing wholehearted partnering with them. Now, how does that work.

827
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: They just pay those private firms a lot of money

828
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: to to tap their resources. Yeah, if you get a

829
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: contract to build the lunar lander for NASA, you might

830
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: as well just be printing money. Um. They I think

831
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: the current administrator for NASA UM estimated recently that it

832
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: would be about thirty billion dollars to get back to

833
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: the Moon. And they put out a call the designs

834
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: UM for designs for their lunar Lunar lander, and so

835
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos, remember I went to New York to see

836
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: the Blue Origin unveiling. That's what he was doing, was

837
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: unveiling their thing called Blue Moon. It's a lunar lander.

838
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: It's got a flat top like kidn play, and um,

839
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: you can put anything on it, a lunar rover, a

840
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: bunch of scientists, a lab, whatever you want, or pieces

841
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: to a space base, a moon base and build it

842
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: slowly like that. Um, and it looks pretty good. Nice,

843
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: and it runs on hydrogen, which is big because they're

844
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna start landing on the South Pole of the Moon,

845
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: which is where they think permanent ices which can be mined, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they haven't. They haven't been to the South Pole first

847
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: of all with any of the Apollo missions, So that

848
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to go there. And yeah,

849
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: like you said, they got ice there. They can split

850
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: that hydrogen and oxygen thanks to electrolysis, and then you

851
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: can make rocket fuel. So used to get back potentially. Yeah,

852
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean the the command module when it was orbiting

853
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: the Moon, it was operating on liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.

854
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: So this is like an old technology, but the new

855
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: thing is we would be mining it on the Moon. Amazing,

856
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: and the kind of the logical conclusion of that then

857
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: is if we can establish a permanent presence on the Moon.

858
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: That's the new motto. So this program, which I think

859
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: is kind of awesome, is called the Artemis program. This

860
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: returned to the Moon sister to uh Apollo, right, which

861
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: makes sense. But it's also the program that's expected to

862
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: put the first woman on the Moon, which right, pretty cool. Um,

863
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: But the the the way that they're saying is now

864
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: we're going to return to the Moon and stay there.

865
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: Like that's the point, Like, we're permanently returning to the

866
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: Moon now. Um. So once we do that, we'll have

867
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: a new place to launch an outer space I mean,

868
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: remember how many pounds of thrust and how much fuel

869
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: that first stage of the Saturn took and then the

870
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: second stage. This doesn't require any of them. And so

871
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: the plan is to build a small space station in

872
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: permanent orbit around the Moon that you fly out to

873
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: and then just like you keep a boat at your

874
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: lake house tied up, they're gonna keep a lunar lander

875
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: tied up to that to that um that that space station,

876
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: and you just kind of go back and forth to

877
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: the Moon using that. Amazing, it is pretty amazing. And

878
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: they're talking about doing this in five years. Can you

879
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: imagine the equality of video and audio that we're gonna get.

880
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. It's gonna be pretty sweet. And

881
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: I've seen that there are starting to like you were

882
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: talking about with commercial tourism, Like I saw something like

883
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: five million. Can at you to the moon? It's pretty

884
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: soon the moon or just orbiting the moon. Oh, I'm

885
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: sorry to the to the space station. The I S

886
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: S five million, which is not bad because they wanted

887
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: to charge Lance Bass like thirty million or something crazy

888
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: like that. It's like HDTVs back in the day. Is

889
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: that price is gonna just keep coming down everybody. Pretty

890
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: soon you're gonna be able to go to the moon

891
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: for cool even Lance Basking afford that you got anything else, no, sir, Well,

892
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 1: congratulations to the world for fifty years of having been

893
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: on the moon the first time. I'm proud of us.

894
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: Uh And since Chuck said hooray, that means it's time

895
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: for a listener. May I'm gonna call this one I've

896
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: been meaning to read for a while. We did a

897
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: show about Live Aid and do they know it's Christmas?

898
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: And we're like, we love that song. Who doesn't love

899
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: that song? It turns out a lot of people don't

900
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: love that song really because the message is flawed. Oh yeah,

901
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: yeah when you look at the lyrics. Uh, hey, guys,

902
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: we'll listen to the show on Live Aid and the

903
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: song do they know it's Christmas? What? That's such a

904
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: great song. Call me a fuddy duddy. But what I

905
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: hear is this, There won't be any snow in Africa

906
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: this Christmas time. The greatest gift they'll get this year

907
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: is life. And he went, oh, I think, he said,

908
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: where nothing ever grows. It's like, that's not possible. Africa's

909
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: is large cottin it with lots of growing things. Uh,

910
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: no rains or rivers flow. Ever heard of the Nile?

911
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: That's North Africa? Um? He said. Basically, it treats Africa

912
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: as a single, homogeneous region when in fact it's incredibly

913
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: large and diverse, ignores the fact that most of Africa's

914
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: in the southern hemisphere, so Christmas is in the summer there,

915
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: and assumes that lack of knowledge of Christmas is a

916
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: flaw caused by lack of resources in good weather, rather

917
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: than a reasonable cultural difference. Considering the large Uh that

918
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: a large percentage of Africans are not Christian. I think

919
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: this guy is taking the do they know it's Christmas? Literally? Well,

920
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people wrote in about this. I gotta say,

921
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: I think the point of the lyrics was they have

922
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: so much hardship in front of their faces. Are they

923
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: even aware that Christmas time has come? The holiday spirit

924
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: in season hasn't even shown up there because there's so

925
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: much hardship. That's the point of the lyrics. Come on.

926
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: He finishes by saying this, it's okay if you like

927
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 1: the song it's sketchy, but please don't claim that everyone

928
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 1: should like it. Everyone should like that song. And that's

929
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: anonymous from a bunch of people. I bet you're anonymous.

930
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: Uh well, thank you for writing. And we always love

931
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: opposing opinions, right, thanks bo Yeah right, He's like, if

932
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: my lyrics had been accepted, it would have been a

933
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: much better song. Uh well, if you want to point

934
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: out that something we like is actually heinous, we love

935
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: hearing that kind of stuff. You can go on to

936
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: stuff you should not dot com and there you're gonna

937
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:57,279
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938
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,239
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939
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,720
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940
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941
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