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Speaker 4: All Right, Seas rising up, Jimber your rising vision, blurring Rage,

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Speaker 4: take it over. Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one

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Speaker 4: You know, when we talk about a record breaking season,

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Speaker 4: And eighteen degrees. I mean, not just the hottest ever

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Speaker 4: Bolick, I've got an idea. Maybe we should open the

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so, Paali preseason.

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Speaker 4: Rage with Jalen Thompson, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert.

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Speaker 4: We are Santan Ford. Yes, Jalen Thompson is gonna be

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. This has been one of

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Speaker 5: That was the big day.

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Speaker 9: There has been a final decision made and staying for

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Speaker 9: the season for people who have spoken. So it started

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Speaker 9: Is creating a lot of camaraderie out of good times,

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Will Hernandez dead panting with the media last year.

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Speaker 4: But wait a minute, if you did like Will Hernandez's mustache,

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Speaker 4: would you really have the nerve to tell him that? Hah,

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Speaker 5: Let's put it that way. It is the big red rage.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Thompson is around the corner, Paul kelvc ron Wolf

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Speaker 4: Lee Wolf. I ran into Will Hernandez earlier today. No,

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Speaker 4: and I told him. I told him. You know what,

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Speaker 4: I love the fact you're back. I hate the fact

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Speaker 4: here to stay. And now Will Hernandez is back. As

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Speaker 5: Filled in the gap, right there.

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Speaker 4: Wolf, What do you think of when you think of

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the greatest news. Probably you know how

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Speaker 1: much I love Will Hernandez. Miho, of course, I love

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Speaker 1: This team's motor just got bigger, and this team's violence

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Speaker 4: Was he not playing some of his best football last

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this, I thought he was the

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Speaker 4: Okay, so no wonder they signed him back. In fact,

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Speaker 4: here's the head coach I'm bringing back Will Hernandez.

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Speaker 10: He's a good player, you know, but coming off a

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Speaker 1: Go for shit like motor and violence.

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Speaker 10: Does this player you just signed kind of yeah, he's

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Speaker 4: More friction or if you want, cram that vertical Will

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Speaker 5: We get it.

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Speaker 4: But this is a man who started a fight with

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Speaker 1: BALI, we just do you believe that it's right there

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Speaker 4: Guess what, though, you're gonna love a brawling Will Hernandez

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Speaker 4: Seahawks and other Premiere three techniques right, but for now,

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Speaker 4: Isaiah Adams is your right guard. The head coach said

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Speaker 4: In fact, speaking of Isaiah Adams, he is definitely won

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Speaker 10: His confidence stack, as I would call it, vision belief

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Speaker 10: I felt from when he got back in here to

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Speaker 1: Year, You know, Paul, It's interesting because we all talk

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Speaker 1: More than anything else, it's his soul. It is the

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Speaker 1: his name out, doesn't matter, but he used to say,

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Speaker 4: And guess what, Evan Brown is your second best center,

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Speaker 1: What And that's not gonna that is a big deal.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 1: Many times, PAULI let me just jump in here and

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Speaker 1: If there's another guy that's really close to his skill

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Speaker 4: And I said, just having watched all the O line

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Speaker 1: Yes, nobody would know this better than you because you

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Speaker 4: When I go back through it, I can see exactly

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Speaker 4: Dalvin Thomlinson when he's coming in hot. So here's my question, though,

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: What do you think about this team? We know you

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Speaker 1: Creedy right now? Are we probably talking about twenty two personnel?

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Bully, if you're not going to

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Speaker 4: twenty six or so right now, and he says he

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Speaker 4: plays more positions or spots on defense than Xavin Collins?

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Speaker 1: Hmmm?

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Speaker 4: Who might be the only player left in the NFL

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Speaker 4: active player to have been selected in the supplemental draft.

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Speaker 5: Guess what.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Thompson is the answer to a lot of these

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Speaker 4: trivia questions, and he is our guest when we come back.

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Speaker 4: It is the big Red Rage presented by santan Port

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Speaker 4: and Gilbert. We are santan Ford pass away over the

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Speaker 4: middle and a diving intercepted by Thompson. He gets up

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Speaker 4: at the twenty five, runs left of the thirty and

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Speaker 4: knock down there Jalen Tompson and with the peck.

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Speaker 1: Thompson with a big time pick.

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Speaker 5: Throws near side.

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Speaker 3: It's high and picked off at the thirty yard line

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Speaker 3: by Jalen Thompson.

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Speaker 4: He's run out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: The ball batted into the air and there is Jalen

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Speaker 1: TOMPs with Johnny on the spot.

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Speaker 4: Dumps it off your side.

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Speaker 3: Pennet's picked off in a thirty by Thompson running it

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Speaker 3: back in your side's tent fifteen, ten, five.

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Speaker 6: Nine and the pilot.

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Speaker 3: He's out of bounds inside the ten and the five

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Speaker 3: yard line.

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Speaker 4: But what a huge play by Jalen Thompson. All Right,

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Speaker 4: the roster says safety. The highlight reel the montage there,

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Speaker 4: Wolf says playmaker. But before we go to the introduction

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Speaker 4: for Jalen Thompson again in the specifics, maybe congratulations, I

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Speaker 4: mean the speaking of the roster, the schedule, the calendar

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Speaker 4: here says the end of camp. Does it feel like

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Speaker 4: the end of camp though?

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Speaker 11: It feels like we're just getting started honestly, you know,

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Speaker 11: guys are out there working hard, guys are out there competing,

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Speaker 11: so kind of feels like it's the beginning of camp

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Speaker 11: really and we're just getting started.

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Speaker 8: So I kind of like that.

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Speaker 1: Jalen, how is this camp gone for you? You're seven? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Your seven? He haw's this camp gone compared to the

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Speaker 1: other camp?

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Speaker 8: It's gone pretty good so far. Guys are competing.

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Speaker 11: I'm competing a lot with uh, you know, Trey McBride, uh,

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Speaker 11: some of the offensive guys, dorch Andre, A lot of

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Speaker 11: the guys are competing. I know, you see Will out

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Speaker 11: there competing. We got some young guys who are stepping

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Speaker 11: up and really doing what they need to do. So

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Speaker 11: it's been a it's been a competitive camp so far.

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Speaker 4: He's marvel at your ability.

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Speaker 5: Same with some of the other guys.

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Speaker 4: But when you have to go from covering you know,

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Speaker 4: six foot three Marvin Harrison Junior who's all jacked, So

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Speaker 4: then you have to cover a guy who's electric like

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Speaker 4: Dorch and then you got big Trey McBride.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean those are three totally different challenges in coverage.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yes, definitely different, but uh, all good work at

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Speaker 11: the same time. You know, I pride myself on being

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Speaker 11: a guy who can cover anybody on the field and

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Speaker 11: who can go out there and play any of the

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Speaker 11: defensive back positions. So that's just one of the things

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Speaker 11: that you have to do as being the type of

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Speaker 11: safety that I am. Guys who can a guy who

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Speaker 11: can go out there and cover anybody really.

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Speaker 1: So you know, Jay, you were kind of the first

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Speaker 1: one Jalen to actually do that on this team defensively,

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Speaker 1: when you stop and think about it, Yeah, a guy

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Speaker 1: that could line up over nickel corner. You were Garrett

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Speaker 1: Williams before Garrett Williams got here, right, And then Garrett

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Speaker 1: Williams this is what he does as well, and then

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Speaker 1: Daydreene Taylor Demerson as well. Rabbits. Yes, he does the

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Speaker 1: same thing. Very mobile in terms of being able to

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Speaker 1: walk up over the slot or actually play as a

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Speaker 1: safety you started all that.

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Speaker 11: I think that's just the evolution of the defensive bag nowadays.

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Speaker 11: You know what I mean, Guys are just you gotta

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Speaker 11: be able to cover in today's league, you know what

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Speaker 11: I mean, cover anybody, like you said, from the Marvin

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Speaker 11: Harrison's to the Tray mcbrides and to the speedy guys

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Speaker 11: like Dorts. You know what I mean, you got to

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Speaker 11: be able to cover them all. I think that's just

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Speaker 11: the evolution of it in today's game.

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Speaker 4: So we just off the field and I said to

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Speaker 4: Sam and call and Hey, we're gonna be interviewing Jalen Thompson,

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Speaker 4: And I said, you know what, I'm gonna ask him

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Speaker 4: who plays more positions? And the reason I bring that

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Speaker 4: up is because you correct me if I'm wrong. You

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Speaker 4: play center field safety, Yes, you play box safety.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: You can be bullitt seen Yep, you can be in

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Speaker 4: the slot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, how much is on your plate mentally just

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Speaker 4: to process all that?

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Speaker 8: A lot?

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Speaker 11: But it's it's something that I'm used to, you know

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Speaker 11: what I mean. I feel like that's been my role

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Speaker 11: in this defense for a while now. You know, I

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Speaker 11: can I pride myself on being just a defensive bag,

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Speaker 11: not technically a safety, just anybody who can go out

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Speaker 11: there and play niggle. I can play corner, I can

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Speaker 11: play box safety, I can play up top deep. So

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Speaker 11: I pride myself on that. And that's all thanks to

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Speaker 11: my coaches as well. Pat Patrick Tony does a good

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Speaker 11: job of making sure that I know the releases of

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Speaker 11: some of the guys. And uh, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 11: just out there doing my job.

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Speaker 1: Not a corner, not a safety, a d by truly

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Speaker 1: a dB that is very very special. So which one

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Speaker 1: do you enjoy? What do you enjoy doing the most?

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Speaker 1: Do you enjoy being in the box, or in center

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Speaker 1: field or in man?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 8: I kind of enjoy doing it all, you know what

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Speaker 8: I mean.

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Speaker 11: I take pride in, you know, going out there and

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Speaker 11: doing whatever the coaches need me to do for the

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Speaker 11: most part. So if it's a week where I got

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Speaker 11: to guard the slot and be a nickel, I take

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Speaker 11: pride in that. If it's a week where I got

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Speaker 11: to be in the box and fit the run, take

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Speaker 11: pride in that. So like all of those going to

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Speaker 11: playing at my position and doing what I do, so

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Speaker 11: I just take pride in it.

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Speaker 4: So I saw stat Jalen Thompson's our guest and the

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Speaker 4: Big Red rage ps everybody, Santan Ford and Gilbert where

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Speaker 4: you're the only player in the NFL currently to terviw

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Speaker 4: the supplemental draft. Yes, take us back seven years ago.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what was your level of confidence you would

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Speaker 4: have as long an NFL careers? Were you always confident

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Speaker 4: yourself or what was it like as a rookie and

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Speaker 4: what you're like? Man, I got to prove myself and

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Speaker 4: prove myself quick.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 11: It was always confident. I knew I had guy with me,

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Speaker 11: and I knew that with God, I can do anything.

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Speaker 11: So there was always confidence within me. It's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 11: I tell everybody on my team that draft story or

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Speaker 11: just whatever, you know what I mean. I'm sitting at

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Speaker 11: home with the family and we're just scrolling Twitter and

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Speaker 11: refreshing it and refreshing it trying to see which team

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Speaker 11: actually drafted me, you know what I mean. Honestly, I

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Speaker 11: thought I got drafted by the Indianapolis Colts. Wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 11: it turns out that was a mistake. And then refreshed

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Speaker 11: it one more time and it was the Cardinals. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: it was just a crazy thing. Bro it's crazy and

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Speaker 11: I take pride in that as well being a supplemental

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Speaker 11: draft guy. It you know, it makes it to where

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Speaker 11: I'm People look at it as underrated or whatever. I

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Speaker 11: look at it as just an opportunity to go out

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Speaker 11: there and prove myself.

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Speaker 1: You really have taken the road less traveled to the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Do you share that with some of

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Speaker 1: the young guys on your team? Do you try to

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Speaker 1: encourage for sure?

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Speaker 11: Definitely, especially when they asked me about that, or just

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Speaker 11: tell him that hard work and and uh being intentional

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Speaker 11: every single day will you know get you here and

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Speaker 11: have you playing in the league for a long time.

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Speaker 11: So I try to share that with some of the

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Speaker 11: younger guys and try to, you know, just share some

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Speaker 11: of the knowledge that I have that some of the

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Speaker 11: older guys like Buddha have given me.

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Speaker 4: What's your mindset about this season, in particular the business

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Speaker 4: side of things? Right, Bouha last year got a deal done,

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Speaker 4: James got a deal done, saving guys. So what's your

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Speaker 4: mindset considering the position.

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Speaker 5: You're in right now?

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Speaker 11: Uh kind of really haven't even thought about that really

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Speaker 11: about like anything like that, the money side or anything.

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Speaker 11: Kind of just focused on the season and kind of

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Speaker 11: just focused on improving my game, uh, cleaning up the

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Speaker 11: mistakes that I made last year, and and becoming a

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Speaker 11: totally new player, an evolved player, and basically, you know

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Speaker 11: what I mean, just going out there and working at work.

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Speaker 1: Can you go specific on that when you say improve Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as a player where.

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Speaker 11: Man coverage abilities would say tackling, I would say, uh,

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Speaker 11: you know, just knowing what the offense is about to do,

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Speaker 11: really evolving in that sense. I know I can compete

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Speaker 11: in this league. I know I can play in this league.

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Speaker 11: It's really just what I do now and uh making

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Speaker 11: my play go up.

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Speaker 4: About this defense, I mean there's a lot made. I

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Speaker 4: mean we see it. I mean that you have a

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Speaker 4: totally different defensive front. Yes, yes, yes, yes, What do

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Speaker 4: you know about this defense? Maybe that we're gonna find

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Speaker 4: out here sometime soon.

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Speaker 11: I think our D line could be something special. Man

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Speaker 11: could be something special. I don't want to speak too soon,

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Speaker 11: but D line looks pretty good. We got vets in there.

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Speaker 11: You know Kalais is in there now. You know how

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Speaker 11: he works hard. He's a he's a great player. We

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Speaker 11: got guys like uh like sweat at at the end

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Speaker 11: we got guys like uh, Dalvin at the nose, you

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Speaker 11: know what I mean. So we got guys who are

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Speaker 11: ready to put their hands up and get in, uh,

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Speaker 11: you know, help our defense out and help us in

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Speaker 11: the in the secondary as well, a big thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nod for the secondary. When you've got guys up front,

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Speaker 1: especially even in rundown situation for sure against the run game.

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Speaker 1: To be able to stand up so you can get

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Speaker 1: to your opponent in third and obvious pass situation. What

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Speaker 1: an advantage. That truly is.

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Speaker 11: Something that defensive backs love, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 11: When you got a great D line in front of you,

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Speaker 11: it makes our jobs a lot easier.

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Speaker 4: I mean, how about for Nick rawlis I mean, if

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Speaker 4: you can stop the run with four, if you can

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Speaker 4: rush for yeah, what sort of options does that give

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Speaker 4: your defensive coordinator?

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Speaker 8: Man? So many options? He can do so much more.

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Speaker 11: It makes our defense so much more versatile, and like

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Speaker 11: I said, makes our secondary that much better if we

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Speaker 11: can rush for and drop that drop an extra guy

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Speaker 11: and coverage you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Talking about that secondary be as well. Jalen, Yeah, talk

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Speaker 1: about the young guys, Will Johnson and Max Melton, those

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Speaker 1: two guys specifically, A very interesting your thought on these guys.

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Speaker 11: Guys that are competitive, competitive, guys that love love ball.

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Speaker 11: I go in there every single day will to study

661
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Speaker 11: and I go in there every single day. Max is

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Speaker 11: asking asking questions. These are guys that just love the

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Speaker 11: game of football, and you can you could tell that

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Speaker 11: when you watch him on the field.

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Speaker 4: What about Denzel Burke, I'm gonna go off. I hear

666
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Speaker 4: he is maybe the first guy into the building every day.

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Speaker 4: What have you seen out of the fifth round pick?

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Speaker 8: A guy that is versatile?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 11: You watch him on the tape, you will You watch

672
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Speaker 11: him on the field and you know he's cycling through corner.

673
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Speaker 11: Nickel can even play safety, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 11: So he's one of those hybrid type of guys when

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Speaker 11: we talk about guys like myself and guys like Garrett

676
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Speaker 11: who can do it all. Really, I feel like.

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Speaker 1: So man or zone has it changed for you at all?

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Speaker 1: What do you enjoy playing in?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Really?

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Speaker 11: I like playing in both. But I do enjoy covering people,

682
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Speaker 11: you know what I mean, That's my job. I like

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Speaker 11: going down and covering the best tight end or whoever

684
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Speaker 11: is the best receiver that week.

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Speaker 5: I like doing that.

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Speaker 8: So that's how I feel is my job and I

687
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Speaker 8: enjoy doing it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I really see you when zone, especially so

689
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Speaker 1: because when you play in his own room, of course

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Speaker 1: you're trying to impact the quarterback. Yes, so how much

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Speaker 1: do you really tip off to the quarterback? I'm on

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Speaker 1: this guy, but you know what, I don't see this

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Speaker 1: guy and then you really do see that.

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Speaker 11: It's all it's all in the looking in disguise really

695
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Speaker 11: and that's uh really a testament to Nick and how

696
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Speaker 11: he has everything dialed up. You know, he's he has

697
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Speaker 11: everybody on point and with the disguises and uh, you know,

698
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Speaker 11: that's how we take the ball away.

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Speaker 1: But Jalen, that really takes a lot of experience, Yes,

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Speaker 1: for a guy to do that, to actually play games

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Speaker 1: with a quarterback for sure. Oh I'm not looking at

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Speaker 1: the how you're going to throw the ball to? Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: I undred percent. So I mean it really is an

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Speaker 1: experience issue.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yes, yes, yes, And that's you know, spending years

706
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Speaker 11: with with like guys like Buddha, you know what I mean,

707
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Speaker 11: guys who have done it year after year and excel

708
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Speaker 11: at it really will. I'm one of those guys as well.

709
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Speaker 11: That's always asking questions in the meetings. So you know,

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Speaker 11: I think guy excel at man coverage. I think I

711
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Speaker 11: could get a little bit better as own. I'm always

712
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Speaker 11: asking those questions to Buddha and just making sure my

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Speaker 11: game is on point and tight as well.

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Speaker 4: All right, I had two hot takes. Okay, Well, sometimes

715
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Speaker 4: I have to, you know, I have to explain things.

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Speaker 4: Not number one, if this defensive front is much better

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Speaker 4: than a year ago, I think nine interceptions is a

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Speaker 4: defense might even.

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Speaker 5: Be doubled this year. Oh for sure. For number number.

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Speaker 4: Two, Buddha Baker, if he puts up the sort of

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Speaker 4: numbers he did last year this year and this is

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Speaker 4: a playoff team, Yes, you guys get primetime exposure. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I mean, could he not be an NFL defensive player

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Speaker 4: or the year candidate?

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Speaker 11: And you, I mean, you guys see it every every

726
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Speaker 11: week on the tape, you know what I mean. He

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Speaker 11: he he shows it and he's just a great player,

728
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Speaker 11: great player.

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Speaker 1: This defense schematically, do you expect you to be just

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Speaker 1: rush Ford drop seven or do you expect, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do Nick is gonna have us doing a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things going after quarter.

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Speaker 11: I think it'll be a lot of different things, a

734
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Speaker 11: lot of different things that can try to confuse the quarterback,

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Speaker 11: a lot of different things to put us in position

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Speaker 11: to make the most plays that we possibly can.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if rookie Tyler Shook starts week one, good luck.

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Speaker 5: That's all I'm gonna say. Right there.

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Speaker 4: Here's my big finish question. Okay, Kyler did the media

740
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Speaker 4: rounds yesterday NFL Network and he says it's been really

741
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Speaker 4: competitive offense against defense, and they smiled and he said,

742
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Speaker 4: I think the offense has won this camp.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 5: It's been really tight, hasn't it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, definitely.

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Speaker 11: I think that's his job is to go out there

747
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Speaker 11: and have that confidence in his offense like that. I

748
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Speaker 11: feel like it has been competitive on both sides. Like

749
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Speaker 11: I said, Trey has been pushing me every single day.

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Speaker 11: Trade me, Brian. I know, Will and Marv have been

751
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Speaker 11: working every single day, and it's just a push pushing pull,

752
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Speaker 11: you know what I mean. Guys have been working and

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Speaker 11: competing every single day.

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Speaker 1: Jailing those two types of guys, those that have a

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Speaker 1: goal coming into training camp and those that don't have

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Speaker 1: goals coming into the tress, which one.

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Speaker 11: Are you a guy that has goals. Definitely coming into

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Speaker 11: training camp, be the best player I can be. Elevate

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Speaker 11: the young guys and uh, you know, just follow what

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Speaker 11: my coaches are saying. What they're saying is the right

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Speaker 11: stuff and it's definitely gonna help out the team.

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you how much we're looking forward to

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Speaker 4: watching this defense ball this year, sir. I mean that

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Speaker 4: that three safety look all the different. I mean it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be something to be hold. So appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Jalent, appreciate you guys so much.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Thompson, Cardinals standout safety. Will continue with a big

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Speaker 4: red rage right after this.

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Speaker 1: Hush quick throw and acception.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a pick six, Well Johnson, we'll take it.

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Speaker 2: Hout on over re touchdown too many round Johnson one

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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 3: Bench cornerbacks and the country Selton to Bechigan pick six

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Speaker 3: touch down lever rage, lay, fake a cord underneath and

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Speaker 3: accepting Michigan. Will Johnson jump the route, cross forward and

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Speaker 3: has it at the vine yard line.

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Speaker 4: Will Johnson is one of the best corners in America.

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Speaker 12: That was kind of a no brainer too, or like

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Speaker 12: we think this guy's a starting corner and you know,

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Speaker 12: just the person as phenomenal, as intangible, as he's very intelligent,

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Speaker 12: and he really is a scheme fit for us too.

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Speaker 12: So it was like, dude, like, let's take that.

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Speaker 4: Guy Jonathan Yain and man, is that is that ringing

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Speaker 4: true in this camp? Or what how many routes has

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Speaker 4: he jumped? I mean, honestly, wolf if you were to

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Speaker 4: give me one guy I want to see more than

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Speaker 4: any other guy on Saturday Night, thanks for asking, it

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Speaker 4: would be Will Johnson, Round two, rookie out of Michigan.

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Speaker 4: It is the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford

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Speaker 4: and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, Paul kelvec Ron Wolfley

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Speaker 4: Special thanks. Jalen Thompson loved his response to you about

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Speaker 4: you know what, I'm a defensive back. Yeah, I'm so versatile.

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Speaker 4: I'm just a dB. I'm not a safety. I'm out

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Speaker 4: a corner play a little bit of everything, and then

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Speaker 4: his coming about how this d this defense, especially this

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Speaker 4: D line quote could be special.

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Speaker 1: Yes here and there's no doubt about it. You think

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Speaker 1: about your defensive line and how that impacts everything A

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Speaker 1: team that wants to run the ball PAULI, do you

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Speaker 1: think it's important you got a Dalvin Tomlinson in there

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Speaker 1: and at Kalais Kembell. You think that's important that you

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Speaker 1: got some defensive linemen who can actually hold their gap

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Speaker 1: and hold their ground. Do you think it's important as

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Speaker 1: well that you can get a defensive line to actually

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Speaker 1: pressure a quarterback and now put them in a situation

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Speaker 1: where he might make a mistake because you've got some

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Speaker 1: corners and you've got some safeties as well. You got

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Speaker 1: some dbs who can actually make a play on the ball.

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Speaker 5: You said it, Drew stand said it.

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Speaker 4: Look, it's not just about affecting the quarterback rushing for

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Speaker 4: it's stopping the run with four having that HU And

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Speaker 4: you know what, because of injuries and other reasons, Nick

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Speaker 4: Rolis has not been afforded that luxury in his two

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Speaker 4: years as defensive coordinators. So it's really intriguing. Now, what

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Speaker 4: if dot dot dot you add a legit lockdown corner

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Speaker 4: to this defense and Will Johnson, I mean, here's Garrett Williams.

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Speaker 4: Just talk about what a natural Will Johnson is at

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Speaker 4: the position of cornerback.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's really smart. You can tell you to Nashville.

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Speaker 13: He plays very comfortable, he plays in his game, and

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Speaker 13: he just he's really coachable too, and so he's picked

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Speaker 13: up everything fast. I think he's taking big stretch from

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Speaker 13: even OTAs now and you're really starting to see the

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Speaker 13: guy that we drafted.

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Speaker 5: You know, I mean Wolf.

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Speaker 4: If I name drop Sauce Gardner, Patrick, I mean Patrick

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Speaker 4: Sirtan the second was the NFL Defensive Player of the

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Speaker 4: Year a year ago. Derek Stingley, Junior All Pro Devinspoon

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Speaker 4: in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: All right, Paully, I know I can.

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Speaker 4: These guys were dudes from day one.

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Speaker 1: Cbe I get it, Paulli, and listen. He's certainly on

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Speaker 1: track right now to do that. Will Johnson looks fantastic

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Speaker 1: and has in all of trading gap whether he was

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Speaker 1: playing man cover or he was playing in a zone room.

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Speaker 1: He really looks good. But whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Let's let this rookie go out and play one preseason

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Speaker 1: game and then maybe two, and you know what, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna play in that third one,

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Speaker 1: maybe even three. If we get him three preseason games,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll have a much better idea as to what

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Speaker 1: Paul is talking about. Because right now, rook, you gotta

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Speaker 1: prove it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, you sound all right, you sound like

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Speaker 4: someone who's been there and done that ten years in

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Speaker 4: the league. But you know what I'm going to defer

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Speaker 4: to Nick Rowlis and why Will Johnson can be successful

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Speaker 4: right away?

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Speaker 7: Coach first and foremost, it's just his ability to go

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Speaker 7: out there and excute, understand things.

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Speaker 3: Really well, and then corner when you're one on ones.

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Speaker 7: And he's doing that, so he's showing that he can

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Speaker 7: go out there and hang with some really good receivers.

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Speaker 5: Low key.

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Speaker 4: You know, one of the best players they saw last

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Speaker 4: year in this building from an opposing team was Christian

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Speaker 4: Gonzalez of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he was a really good.

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Speaker 4: Corner that was a really, really good, horrendous team with

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Speaker 4: not a lot of talents. Christian Gonzalez nearly six to

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Speaker 4: two reminds me a lot of a Will Johnson.

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Speaker 1: You're right, bully, and you know I would agree with

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Speaker 1: that assessment. But let me also say again the scheme fit.

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Speaker 1: We keep talking about the scheme fit. The fact that

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals play a lot of zone, and not

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Speaker 1: just zone, but a lot of quarter coverage four deep

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Speaker 1: three underneath rush four. This is where I think Will

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Speaker 1: Johnson excels the most is in quarter coverage. And it's

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Speaker 1: not a surprise that he jumped z A Jones out route.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray threw it out there in Will Johnson jumped

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Speaker 1: that route and made the pick, and that, to me

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Speaker 1: has been That is probably the best play I've seen

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Speaker 1: in training camp right now, by anybody agreed the best play.

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Speaker 1: And it was made by a rookie corner. That tells

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Speaker 1: me something.

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Speaker 5: It was such a good play.

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Speaker 4: I turned to the guy next to me, as probably

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Speaker 4: Craig g Real who as I continue to explain the

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00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: game of football to him, and I said, did he

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Speaker 4: know the play? Did he know the route? That's how

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Speaker 4: good he was in that coverage. In fact, if I'm

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Speaker 4: Nick Ross and Jonathan Gannon, I really hope Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 4: test my rookie cornerback.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: I would love to see Mahomes go at Agent zero

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Speaker 4: on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: Agent zero? Is that what you're calling him? Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you on that. I would love that if in

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Speaker 1: fact they did. But you know, once again, when you

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Speaker 1: play in his own room, you've got to trick the

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Speaker 1: quarterback as well. You don't want to cover the guy

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Speaker 1: so good he doesn't throw it you want. And this

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Speaker 1: is where I think the brilliance of Will Johnson really is.

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Speaker 1: Mel kiper Junior. You know mel kiper Jr. Of course

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00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: came on our show and was talking about how this

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00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: guy is a pick six waiting to happen, and it's

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Speaker 1: because of his ability to fool the quarterback as to

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Speaker 1: where he is when he's looking at him and not

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00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: letting the quarterback know that he's looking at him. So

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00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: he can jump a lot of routes as well. So

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Speaker 1: it takes a lot of smarts and a lot of

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Speaker 1: instinct as well. And I think we'll Johnson's got that.

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Speaker 4: All was last two years in Michigan, he had three

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Speaker 4: picks sixes and zero touchdown catches allowed. If he would

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00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: have come out, been able to come out after they

907
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Speaker 4: won the national championship and he was the National title

908
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Speaker 4: game defensive MVP, you can't tell me he wouldn't have

909
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Speaker 4: been a top ten pick. Here's the only thing I'll

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Speaker 4: throw out there, because a lot of people look at

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals secondary are like, wow, they're really young. Okay, well,

912
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: a year ago. What did Philadelphia do with that defense?

913
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Speaker 4: They won a Super Bowl with two rookie corners and

914
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Speaker 4: Cooper to Jean and Quinnan Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: Great observation.

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Speaker 4: If you have the defensive front and you can be disruptive. Man,

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Speaker 4: I mean I was joking with Trey McBride. You know,

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Speaker 4: Cooper to Jean and Quinian Mitchell ended up higher than

919
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Speaker 4: Trey McBride in the NFL Top one hundred list.

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Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. I mean, you know they I get it.

922
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Speaker 4: They hold to the Lombardi. They get all the flowers

923
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Speaker 4: and the props. I get all that. But with a

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Speaker 4: Max Melton, would you not say Max Melton has taken

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Speaker 4: a jump this game.

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Speaker 1: I'm so impressed with Max Melton right now. We all

927
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Speaker 1: thought he really was making some development last year. He

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Speaker 1: got in at the end of last season, of course,

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Speaker 1: it looked like a guy that was getting better and

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Speaker 1: better and better. But man, he looks really really good

931
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Speaker 1: out there so far this training camp as well. I

932
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Speaker 1: love the corner room, specifically Nickel. As we all know,

933
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Speaker 1: a Nickel corner is a starter in today's NFL. So

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Speaker 1: much of the time and rundown situation first and ten,

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Speaker 1: second and one to six. So much of the time

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Speaker 1: in a first and ten, other teams offensively will go

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Speaker 1: eleven personnel, one back, one tight end, three wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: and that means you need three corners. The Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: right now, a rookie, a second year guy, and a

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Speaker 1: third year guy. Those are those three corners for them

941
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Speaker 1: right now. Will Johnson, of course, is the rookie. Max

942
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Speaker 1: Melton is the second year guy, and I'm looking forward

943
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Speaker 1: to him really taking a big leap. And then Garrett Williams.

944
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Speaker 1: Carrett Williams Pro Football Folcus had him rated number three.

945
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Speaker 1: Now you know me, I'm not big on Pro Football Focus, PAULI,

946
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Speaker 1: but I will say this right now, just the fact

947
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Speaker 1: they had his coverage grade that high against all these

948
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Speaker 1: corners in the National Football I'm talking about all pro corners.

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Speaker 1: He was number three, Okay, So he's remarkable. Even if

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Speaker 1: the grade is a little skewed and it's not correct

951
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Speaker 1: because it's Pro Football Focus, that still is a big

952
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Speaker 1: jump for a guy like Garret Williams.

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Speaker 4: So if it's base defense and there are only two

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Speaker 4: corners out there, does Garrett Williams stay on the field.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely not all the time based on personnel.

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Speaker 4: Because the other package is when you go with those

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Speaker 4: two corners and then you go with the three safety

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Speaker 4: look with Rabbit, Buddha and Jalen Thompson. Interesting it was

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Speaker 4: our guest tonight and by the way, Jalen Thompson earlier

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Speaker 4: in the off season, we asked him, do you feel underrated?

961
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Speaker 4: He said yes, and I think we would all agree with.

962
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Speaker 1: That versatility and flexibility for this defense.

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Speaker 4: Ye how many times have we said the words Buddha

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Speaker 4: or JT saved a touchdown with that tackle right there? Hey,

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Speaker 4: special thanks as always, jim O, Mohunterro Cody Fincher, Ali Narini,

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Speaker 4: Parker Garash for Jalen Thompson, Ron Wolfley on Paul KELBC.

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