1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Joshua P. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Warre. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Yes, ready to be amazed by the wizard of this 12 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: is Strange Warren. 13 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: I am Joshua pe Warren, and each week on this show, 14 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 4: I'll be bringing you brand new my blowing content, news exercises, 15 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 16 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: lot more on this edition of the show. Why was 17 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: Devil's Tower picked for the movie? Close Encounters? Close Encounters 18 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: of the Third Kind is one of my absolute favorite movies. 19 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: Of course, it is Stephen Spielberg's nineteen seventy seven masterpiece 20 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: starring Richard Dreyfuss, Melinda Dylan, Terry Garr and I doubt 21 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 4: that anybody listening to this show does not like Close 22 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: Encounters of the third kind, and you know, it's a 23 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: great movie on any screen. But one year, Lauren and 24 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: I got to actually go watch it. It was an 25 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: anniversary year, and they played it again in the theaters 26 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 4: on the big screen, and it was just spectacular. One 27 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: of the most amazing movies I've ever watched on a 28 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 4: big screen. And of course in this movie, you have 29 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 4: all of these characters that have had they're having close encounters, 30 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: they're having these run ins with UFOs, and it turns 31 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 4: out that each one of them starts becoming sort of 32 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 4: obsessed with this image of what turns out to be 33 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 4: a rock formation. They don't know what it is at first, 34 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: they just know that after they've had this encounter, they're 35 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: drawn to this image. And there's this memorable scene where 36 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: Richard Dreyfus he's obsessing about this, and he's sitting at 37 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 4: dinner and his family is arguing and he's frustrated, and 38 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: at one point he has a plate of mashed potatoes 39 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: and he just starts playing with the mashed potatoes and 40 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 4: taking his fork and sort of stroking the fork up 41 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 4: and down until he creates this mound of mashed potatoes 42 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: that ends up looking like this rock formation that all 43 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 4: these characters are later drawn to, and that rock formation 44 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: is called Devil's Tower. And Devil's Tower is actually what 45 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: is known as a butte, and a butte is defined 46 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: as an isolated hill with steep, often vertical sides and 47 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: a small, relatively flat top. This particular butte, Devil's Tower, 48 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: is composed of igneous rock, and it is in the 49 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: Bare Large Ranger district of the Black Hills in northeastern Wyoming. 50 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: And this thing is it's pretty darn big. Let's see 51 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 4: the It looks just like a stone cup turned upside down, 52 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: jutting out of the landscape. It's a striking thing, and 53 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 4: it becomes the iconic pivotal image of the film because 54 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 4: this is where everybody goes, and it becomes all these 55 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: characters go there, and it becomes the landing spot for 56 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: the mass close encounter that happens. And so Devil's Tower, 57 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: it's let's see, eight hundred and sixty seven feet from 58 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: its base to the summit, and it's five thousand, one 59 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: hundred and twelve feet above sea level. So okay, if 60 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: we look at the height from the top to the 61 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: bottom eight hundred se sixty seven feet is two hundred 62 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 4: and sixty four meters, so that's almost three times taller 63 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: than the Statue of Liberty and almost as tall as 64 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: the Eiffel Tower, if my math is correct here. And 65 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: one thing that's especially notable about Devil's Tower is that 66 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 4: it was the very first United States national monument, established 67 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: on September twenty fourth of nineteen o six by President 68 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: Theodore Roosevelt. Okay, Teddy Roosevelt. You know, he was big 69 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: into preserving the land. By the way, September twenty fourth, 70 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: my wife Lauren's birthday. I'd never realized that before. That's 71 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: an interesting connection. And when you see this amazing looking structure, 72 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 4: there is something enchanting about it. And there is a 73 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: YouTube channel that I love to watch. It's called Jacob 74 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 4: the Carpetbagger. And this guy he's I guess he's probably 75 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: in his forties, I would imagine, and he he just 76 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 4: gets in his car and drives all over the United 77 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 4: States exploring and doing you know, like one hour videos 78 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: about roadside attractions and carnivals and fairs and just anything 79 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: that's kind of unusual. I was recently watching his channel 80 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 4: and he camped at this Koa campground at the foot 81 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: of Devil's Tower. And that's what got me thinking more 82 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: about the you know, why that Spielberg decided to use it, 83 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: and what the story was behind this thing. And in fact, 84 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: it's kind of funny because when you camp there, it 85 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: turns out in this Koa campground, of course, they have 86 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: a variety of cabins and different kinds of campsites, even 87 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 4: some teepees, but every evening everybody convenes in this common 88 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: area where they have a big screen and they all 89 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: watch Close Encounters together. They play the movie every night 90 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: in this park. So that shows you the impact that 91 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: the movie has made on the tower and vice versa. 92 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: And in fact, so if you haven't seen this, I 93 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 4: highly recommend go just get online and type in Jacob 94 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: the Carpetbagger and Devil's Tower. I think Jacob currently lives 95 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: in western North Carolina as a matter of fact, but 96 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: always good content from him. So here is sort of 97 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: the old Native American story behind what we call Devil's Tower. 98 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: Now and again this is igneous. So apparently this was 99 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: a volcanic structure that partially eroded over time and basically 100 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: it looks like that this mound has all of these 101 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: vertical ridges going up and down it, all all sides, 102 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: and there is a geologic explanation for white looks that way. 103 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 4: The striations have sort of eroded off in that pattern. 104 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: But according to the Native American lore that goes back 105 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: to who knows, when there was an incident where a 106 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: bunch of Native Americans we're being attacked by this gigantic 107 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: bear named Mato m Ato, and they were, and then 108 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: we're talking about a bear that's the size of Godzilla, 109 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: and so right when they are about to be gobbled up, 110 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: the great Spirit decides to lift the earth up underneath 111 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: them onto this pedestal so that Mato cannot get to them. 112 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: And so this giant bear is doing his best clawing 113 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 4: up and down the sides of this butte to try 114 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: to capture them. And that's where you get all these ridges. 115 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: They say those are the giant claw marks of the 116 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: attacking bear. And in fact, for that reason, it's often 117 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: called bear lodge or something similar to that, bear lodge, 118 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: bear bear teepee. So this was a sacred place because 119 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: they were saved by this bear or from this bear. 120 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: And it turns out that if you want to learn 121 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: about why it is actually called Devil's Tower. Oh yeah, 122 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: you know what, Before I get to that, if you 123 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: look at some of the depictions of Mato the bear, 124 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: one thing that's kind of weird is that Mato the 125 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: bear is shown as having a tail. And when Lauren 126 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: saw that, she said, why why would they put a 127 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: tail on a bear? Bears don't have a big long 128 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: it's kind of like a big long bushy tail. You know. 129 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 4: Bears may have a little, but not like a big 130 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 4: long bushy tail. I said, I don't know. So I 131 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 4: looked into it, and apparently there's this Native American story 132 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 4: about how that bears used to have a big, long, 133 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: bushy tail and they were very proud of it, and 134 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: it annoyed all the other animals at the forest. The 135 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 4: bears were so prideful, And one day a bear walked 136 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: up to an otter and saw that the otter had 137 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: this big, nice, impressive pile of fish, and so the 138 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: bear said, how do you get those fish? And so, 139 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: instead of telling the bear that we would drive down 140 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: he would dive down into the water and catch fish. 141 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: The otter decided to trick the bear, and he said, oh, 142 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: I just put my tail in this ice hole here, okay, 143 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: because there was like a frozen leg, there's a hole 144 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 4: in the ice. He says, I put my tail in 145 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: this hole, and I wiggled around once in a while 146 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 4: so the fish see it. And when a fish bites 147 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: onto my tail, I just pull it up and out 148 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: of the water. It's an easy way to catch fish. 149 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: And so the bear said, well, do you mind if 150 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 4: I use your your fishing hole, and the otter said, 151 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 4: oh no, go right ahead, And so the bear sticks 152 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 4: his tail in there and starts storing this. But then 153 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: the sun started to set and the water froze over 154 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 4: and it froze up the bear's tail, and the bear 155 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: could not move and he freaked out and he pulled 156 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: at his tail. It was stuck so tight. 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That's Coast to Coast am dot com. 204 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: Welcome back, to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 205 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, 206 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. 207 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 7: Warren, beaming into your worm whole brain from my studio 208 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 7: in Send City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day golden 209 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 7: and every night a silver a gietato zume. 210 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: You know, I believe my brother in law, Charles, visited 211 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: Devil's Tower once and he was obviously impressed. I have 212 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 4: not made it to that part of the country, but 213 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: I believe that you can drive from there only maybe 214 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: two two and a half hours and be it Mount Rushmore. So, 215 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: that would be a cool little road trip to go 216 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 4: hit up both of those sites. And when it comes 217 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: to this name Devil's Tower, of course, I told you 218 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: about the history of the connection with the bear And 219 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: according to the National Park Service website, the first use 220 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: of the name Devil's Tower was by then Lieutenant Colonel 221 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:58,479 Speaker 4: Richard Dodge in eighteen seventy five. He commanded the military 222 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: escort for a scientific expedition into the Black Hills. Keeping 223 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: a journal during this expedition, Dodge wrote that quote, the 224 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: Indians called this place bad God's Tower, end quote, a 225 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: name adopted with proper modification, and so the label Devil's 226 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: Tower was created. Okay, so he's saying they called it 227 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: Bad God's Tower. To him, that meant devil, so he 228 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: called it Devil's Tower. But there's no records that indicate 229 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: the Native Americans associated to place with bad gods or 230 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: evil spirits, and so it is suspected that a bad 231 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 4: translation led the men to confuse the words for bear 232 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: and bad god. Others feel Dodge deliberately changed the name 233 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: of an important indigenous site. So we just don't know, 234 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 4: but it's I think it's certainly possible that, I mean, 235 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: if the word bear and bad sounded close enough and 236 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 4: there were mistranslations, it makes sense that, you know, that 237 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: could be the case. So that's sort of the gist 238 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: of the story of the butte itself called what we 239 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 4: now call Devil's Tower. Obviously an impressive enough place to 240 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: be considered America's first or to be designated as America's 241 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 4: first National monument by President Teddy Roosevelt. So how did 242 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: this end up in the movie. Well, apparently from what 243 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 4: I can find here. Stephen Spielberg, of course, he wrote 244 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 4: Close Encounters of the third kind, and in his script, 245 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 4: he knew that he wanted some kind of a mountain 246 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 4: like structure, but he just didn't know exactly what it 247 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: would be. He wasn't sure what would be striking enough, 248 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: and so he sent a location scout out to look 249 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: at least one and this location scout who was in 250 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: that area, he was apparently by himself, and he said 251 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 4: that he was I've got some quotes written down here 252 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: by him. He said that he was driving through this 253 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: kind of grassy wilderness area and then he emerged in 254 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 4: whoa there it was, and he said, the shock of it. 255 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: It looks like something manufactured. We just liked the shape 256 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: of it, and then we found out it has this 257 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 4: great spiritual value. The solitude is amazing. Images don't do 258 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 4: it justice. So he said that, you know, he got 259 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: Spielberg to go out there, and Spielberg was like, yep, 260 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 4: this is it. It was literally just based upon the 261 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: power of seeing this thing. So that obviously, if you're 262 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 4: into this sort of thing, that gives you inspiration to 263 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 4: want to make the trip and go see Devil's Tower 264 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 4: for yourself, especially now that you know that it really 265 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: was considered a blessed place, I suppose by the Native Americans, 266 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: and still is to this day. In fact, people are 267 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 4: encouraged not to climb up there. I was reading something 268 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: about this that you might find interesting, how that let's 269 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: see here today. Okay, So there are people who want 270 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 4: to go there and climb, of course, and it says 271 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: fear of the tower is sacred to several plains tribes, 272 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 4: including the Lakota, Cheyenne, and Kiowa. Because of this, many 273 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: Native American leaders objected to climbers ascending the mountain, considering 274 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 4: this to be a desecration. The climbers argued that they 275 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: had a right to climb the tower since it is 276 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: on federal land. A compromise was eventually reached with a 277 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 4: voluntary climbing ban during the month of June, when the 278 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: tribes are conducting sarah onies around the monument. Climbers are asked, 279 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 4: but not required, to stay off the tower in June, 280 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 4: and according to a PBS documentary about this, approximately eighty 281 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: five percent of climbers honor the ban and voluntarily choose 282 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: not to climb the tower during the month of June. However, 283 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: several climbers, along with such and such foundations, sued the 284 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 4: Park Service claiming an inappropriate government entanglement with religion. So 285 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: there is a controversy about the spiritual designation as well 286 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 4: as the federal monument designation of Devil's Tower to this day, 287 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 4: but there's nothing to indicate that there's anything evil about it, right, 288 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: despite this very memorable name. Now, when I look at 289 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 4: this and I realize, all right, this is a work 290 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: of fiction, even though there's a lot of truth in 291 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: that movie. And we can see that more and more 292 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: if we look back now at some of the things 293 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 4: the movie was based on. But is there something valid 294 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: about this concept that certain places on Earth may be 295 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: vortex's for lack of a better word, that do attract 296 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: UFOs that because that we humans see something like that 297 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 4: and we find it so amazing looking, it would make 298 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: sense that UFOs would do the same thing. They would 299 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: want to come and check it out, just as tourists. 300 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: But perhaps there is an energy around it as well 301 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 4: that can be physically tapped into if you're using some 302 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: kind of exotic alien technology. And this reminds me of 303 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: the work that was done by Page Bryant. Page Bryant 304 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: was a woman who lived in Sedona, Arizona, and I'm 305 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: going to say back in the probably the late eighties 306 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: and nineteen nineties, and she was a psychic and she 307 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 4: went around to all these different spots in Sedona, Arizona, 308 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 4: and said that she believed that they were vortexas, and 309 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: these are places where funnels of energy are moving into 310 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: or out of the earth. And she said that some 311 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 4: of them were called magnetic, meaning that they would draw 312 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: energy in, and some were called electric, meaning that they 313 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 4: would send energy out. And she wrote a lot about this, 314 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: She talked a lot about it on the radio, and 315 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 4: she finally moved to western North Carolina and she wrote 316 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: this book about vortex is there called The Spiritual Reawakening 317 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: of the Great Smoky Mountains, which is a fascinating book. 318 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: And she said that Brown Mountain and the surrounding area, 319 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 4: the Lynbal Gorge, were vortexes as well. Brown Mountain is 320 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: a vortex. Table rock over there as a vortex, Hawk's 321 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 4: Bill as a vortex. And she describes whether they are 322 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: electric or magnetic in her terminology. And one evening I 323 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: was very fortunate because I got to go to her house. 324 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 4: She invited me and Brian Irish to spend the evening 325 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: with her and her husband, and she was very kind 326 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 4: answering a lot of my questions about this, and she 327 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 4: basically said that, you know, she's not a technical person, 328 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 4: that she doesn't know if you can go in and 329 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 4: measure these things that way with you know, measured the 330 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: energy flowing in or out with our current technology, but 331 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: that she just always sensed it and wrote about it 332 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 4: that way. And to this day, if you go to 333 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: somewhere someplace like Sedona, Arizona, you'll find these maps of 334 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: these different points you can hike two that are labeled 335 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: as vortexas and it's a lot of fun to do that. 336 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: But you know, North Carolina has a lot of these 337 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 4: sort of interesting spots. As a matter of fact, one 338 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: time I was driving east from Asheville with my buddy 339 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: k Fox. At one point we looked up above the 340 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: road and said, what the heck is that there was 341 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 4: a mountain there that looks a heck of a lot 342 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: like Devil's Tower. It's called Pilot Mountain there in North Carolina. 343 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: And we were so intrigued with Pilot Mountain that on 344 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: our way back a few days later, we stopped and 345 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: we drove up the mountain and got out some of 346 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 4: the overlooks, and it's another way. This is a bona 347 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: fide mountain. It's not as narrow as Devil's Tower. But 348 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: you know, if you're interested in this sort of thing, 349 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 4: check out Pilot's Pilot Mountain in North Carolina. And so 350 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 4: it's intriguing to me that you have a lot of 351 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: people who say there are UFOs around Brown Mountain, a 352 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: lot of people who say there are UFOs in fact 353 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: around that area where Pilot Mountain is. I don't know 354 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 4: how many people actually report seeing UFOs around Devil's Tower, 355 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: but I would not be surprised, of course, if it's 356 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 4: got such a reputation though that if somebody said, oh, 357 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: I went there and I saw a UFO, you would think, yeah, right, 358 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: they're just using their imagination. We need to get David, 359 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 4: We need to get Jason Sarachi out there. I believe 360 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 4: to do some research. In fact, a little bit later, 361 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm up on a break here, but I'll 362 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 4: tell you something about Jason Saraci. And furthermore, you know, 363 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 4: they don't make movies anymore quite like that, do they. 364 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: You know, my favorite movie of all time, and this 365 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 4: is a tough one, but I have to go with 366 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 4: Raiders of the Lost Arc and of course it's also 367 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 4: a Spielberg movie. And when we come back from this break, 368 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: I want to tell you something kind of interesting about, 369 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: of all people, Harrison Ford, who of course starred as 370 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 4: Indiana Jones. It's another case. It's a movie story, but 371 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 4: it applies also, believe it or not to a question 372 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: that I was recently asked about manifestation tips and transforming 373 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 4: energy into matter and physical form and all that. I'm 374 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: Joshua P. 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I was talking to someone the other 397 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 4: day who is new to manifestation work, and the person 398 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 4: asked me, when you are trying to come up with 399 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 4: what you want to manifest to materialize magically in your life, 400 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: how just how specific should you be? Should you be 401 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: so specific that you break it right down to every 402 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 4: little grainy detail or can you just put a few words? 403 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 4: And this is a very good question, and it comes 404 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: up a lot, and let me just say it reminds 405 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 4: me of I guess an experience that Lauren and I 406 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 4: had on Sunday, October fourteenth of two thy eighteen, around 407 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 4: twelve forty five pm. How's that for specific. We were 408 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 4: in Hollywood, in California, the real Hollywood, and I believe 409 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 4: that this was like the day after I'd done an 410 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: event there. I'm not one hundred percent sure. I think 411 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: that that was the time of the trip. Might've even 412 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 4: been a wishing machine workshop. I didn't go back and 413 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: check the dates. But there was this movie that had 414 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: just come out, I believe, produced by Steven Spielberg, called 415 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: First Man, starring Ryan Gosling, and it was about Armstrong's 416 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: journey to be the first man to walk on the Moon. 417 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 4: And I had thought, well, while we were in Hollywood, 418 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: why don't we go watch it on a big impressive screen, 419 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: because I imagine these will be some epic shots. And 420 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 4: so we went to what they called the TCL Chinese Theater, 421 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: that's what they call it now. It was originally Grahman's 422 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 4: Chinese Theater, and it was renamed Man's Chinese Theater in 423 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: nineteen seventy three and then reverted to its original name 424 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: in two thousand and one, and then in twenty thirteen, 425 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: a Chinese electronics manufacturer TCL Corporation purchased the naming rights, 426 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 4: and so now it's you know, it's the TCL Chinese Theater. 427 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 4: And this it was originally built in nineteen twenty two 428 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: or opened that year, and it was following the success 429 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: of Grahman's Egyptian Theater, so they were looking at, you know, 430 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 4: these kind of exotic styles. But anyway, look, this place 431 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 4: has an amazing history. It's teamed up with Imax. Now, 432 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 4: I mean, a lot of the biggest movies ever debuted there, 433 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: including Star Wars in nineteen seventy seven. There have been 434 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 4: a lot of big private events there, three Academy Awards ceremonies. 435 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 4: It just seemed like a really cool place to go 436 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 4: and watch this epic film. And so we arrived, oh, 437 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe like an hour before showtime, and 438 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: we were in the lobby and there weren't very many 439 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 4: people around, and there was a bar, so we decided 440 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 4: to have a drink before we went in to watch 441 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 4: the movie, and since we were the only people at 442 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: the bar, we started having a pretty interesting conversation with 443 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: the bartender and she had worked there for a long time, 444 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 4: knowing that it has this reputation. I said to the 445 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 4: bartender at some point, well have you ever had any 446 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 4: run ins with celebrities here? And she goes, oh, yeah, 447 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: yeah all the time, and she started telling his stories, 448 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 4: and somehow or other, well I probably asked her about 449 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 4: like what certain celebrities drink or whatever, and I think 450 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 4: she was the one who actually brought up Harrison Ford. Now, 451 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: Harrison Ford, of course is he's famous for a lot 452 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 4: of reasons. One of them is being very healthy. He's 453 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 4: I guess in his eighties now, and you know, he 454 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 4: looks like he's just as healthy as ever. I mean 455 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 4: he's I think he says all he eats is bland 456 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: stuff like fish and vegetables, and then he exercises his 457 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 4: butt off every day. But I do know, I think 458 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 4: I've read that he has a Scotch that he likes occasionally. 459 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: But anyway, he was there for some kind of a 460 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 4: p and she was serving drinks at this special VIP 461 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: area for the big celebrities, and so she asked him 462 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 4: if he would like a drink, and he kind of 463 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 4: grumbles a little bit like, uh, I don't know, and 464 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: the she's and she says, well, we've got beer and wine, 465 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 4: and and he goes, okay, I'll uh, I'll take a 466 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: glass with just just this much beer in it. And 467 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: he and he shows with his fingers maybe like, you know, 468 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 4: maybe two inches of beer. So I'll have a glass 469 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 4: with this much beer in it. She goes, okay. So 470 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: she pours him the glass and she hands it to 471 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 4: him and she said. He goes, I told you just 472 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 4: this much. That's way too much beer. And he's and 473 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: he's just really gruff and unhappy that she has poured 474 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 4: a little too much beer in this glass. I don't 475 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 4: know if he was joking or not. You know, it's 476 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 4: one of those things like I've always enjoyed his movies 477 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 4: so much. I'd never want to meet him because what 478 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 4: if I you know, he said something that hit me 479 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 4: the wrong way. But anyhow, the point is, she said 480 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: to me, you know, rich people are very specific. I've 481 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: noticed that rich people are very specific and with what 482 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 4: they want. And I thought that's an interesting point coming 483 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 4: from someone like her, who's around not just rich people, 484 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 4: but people who have these giant egos and who also 485 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 4: are part of the manifestation business. I mean, what are 486 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 4: movies other than a collective manifestation, you know, taking ideas 487 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 4: and turning them into this experience. And so you might 488 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 4: look at that and say, well, hey, if people like 489 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 4: him are very, very specific, then that's a good thing. 490 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 4: But on the other hand, I tend to believe that 491 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 4: there needs to be uh, some greater consideration. Let me explain. 492 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 4: In my book Use the Force, a Jedi's Guide to 493 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 4: the Law of Attraction, which you can read for free 494 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 4: if you go to my website Joshua Pwarren dot com, 495 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 4: there's a section and it's called specific but not too specific, 496 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 4: and this applies to any kind of technique that you're 497 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 4: using to try to manifest something. And let me just 498 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: read this little portion for you. I have stressed the 499 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 4: importance of being specific in your wishes. However, in some 500 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 4: cases you can be so specific that your wish will 501 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: not come true, most especially when other living beings, particularly people, 502 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: are involved. Human energy is extremely complex and interfering with 503 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 4: another's life path can have unforeseen consequences. You should therefore 504 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 4: avoid trying to attract a particular person, for example, as 505 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 4: you would like an ideal mate, then wish for or 506 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 4: quote your ideal mate. Do not, however, wish for a 507 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 4: certain individual. You may think someone in particular is perfect 508 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 4: for you, but you are not omniscient. The universe is 509 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 4: always a much better judge of what is suited to 510 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 4: you and what will satisfy your needs. It is helpful 511 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 4: to think of childhood crushes. Maybe at a certain age 512 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 4: you felt someone would be your dream partner, and then 513 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: ten years later you look back with an experienced eye 514 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 4: to see this person was not right at all for you. Furthermore, 515 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 4: being too specific also applies to some inanimate objects as well. 516 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 4: If I want an Aston Martin car, I should be 517 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 4: able to manifest that. If I want an Aston Martin 518 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 4: dB five, that may be slightly more difficult to manifest. 519 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 4: But if I want the Aston Martin dB five that 520 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 4: Sean Connery actually drove in the movie Goldfinger, this may 521 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 4: be such an impossible goal that it is not worth 522 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 4: my time to envision. So always think about getting the 523 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 4: most bang for your buck, so to speak. So as 524 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 4: you can see, there's not really a hard and fast 525 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 4: rule there, but you just have to consider that the 526 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 4: less specific you are, the more likely you are to 527 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 4: get what you want in some cases. And then the 528 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 4: more specific you are, the more likely you are in 529 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 4: some cases. But I think that's something that you just 530 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 4: have to take on a case per case basis and 531 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 4: figure out with practice and experience and trial and error. 532 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 4: But I don't know how helpful that was, but it 533 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 4: certainly made me think of it when I got that question. 534 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 4: But you know, getting back to the movie thing that 535 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 4: we're talking about in general. You know, at my house, 536 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 4: we've recently been watching a lot of the old three 537 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 4: D movies you can get them on DVD where they 538 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 4: have the red and blue and a glyph I believe 539 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 4: they're called, and you wear the red and blue glasses. 540 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 4: And we have like, you know, Creature from the Black 541 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 4: Lagoon and Jaws and you know, all this kind of 542 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 4: stuff that you can that you can watch in three D, 543 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 4: and it's it's kind of like being back in that 544 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 4: I you know, I didn't live in the nineteen fifties, 545 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 4: but it's similar to that feeling. I guess a lot 546 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 4: of these movies that you we would consider schlock and uh, 547 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 4: I started thinking about that word shlock. Where does that? 548 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 6: You do know? 549 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: Where lord schlock comes from? Turns out it's a Yiddish word. Well, 550 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: It comes from this Yiddish word s h l a k, 551 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 4: which means junk or junkie. But if you if you're 552 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 4: interested in just getting some of these old like DVDs 553 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 4: that have the red blue thing that you can watch 554 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 4: with the glasses, there's a very cool website called DVD 555 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 4: Rparty dot com. I'm not being paid to promote this, 556 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 4: but it's just something that you might enjoy if you 557 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 4: like the stuff that I like. DVD Rparty dot com 558 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 4: and they provide just tons of these older three D 559 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 4: movies like that, including some stuff that you know, well, 560 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 4: some stuff that is well, let me just put it 561 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 4: this way. There's a lot of schlock, okay, but I 562 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 4: miss the days when people made movies like that. Not 563 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 4: everything needs to have some serious social agenda. Well, when 564 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 4: we come back, I want to tell you something about 565 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 4: what's happening with TV right now, including something that happened 566 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 4: with Jason Saraci. And also I have a little bit 567 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: of well sad news. I'm Joshua P. Warren, and you're 568 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 4: listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 569 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 4: Coast AM Paranormal podcast network, and I will be right back. 570 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 3: The Internet is an extraordinary resource that links our children 571 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 3: to a world of information, experiences, and ideas. It can 572 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: also expose them to risk. Teach your children the basic 573 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 3: safety rules of the virtual world. Our children are everything, 574 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 3: Do everything for them. 575 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 5: On the iHeartRadio and parl Podcast Network. Listen anytime, any place. 576 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: Hi, this is Sandras Champlain. Ever wonder what happens when 577 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 3: we well? I'm going to make it easier for you 578 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 3: to understand. Join me for my show, Shades of the Afterlife. 579 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 3: New shows come out every Friday, so I'll be looking 580 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: for you right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 581 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 3: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 582 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 4: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of 583 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 4: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 584 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 4: Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Laarren 585 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 4: and my buddy Jason's Sarachi will take you out to 586 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: see UFOs with third generation night vision if you're in 587 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: the Vegas area. His website is Vegas UFOs dot com 588 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 4: and he was recently on television on the Discovery Channel. 589 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 4: I have seen his footage on TV before, but I 590 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 4: think this is the first time I've seen Jason actually 591 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 4: sit down. He was on this show called Alien Encounters 592 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 4: Fact or Fiction, hosted by Mitch Horowitz and Chrissy Newton, 593 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 4: and basically those two are sitting in a bar in Roswell, 594 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 4: New Mexico, and throughout the show people come in who 595 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 4: believe they have evidence of UFOs or aliens and they 596 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 4: share the evidence and then Chrissy and Mitch evaluate it 597 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 4: and say whether or not they think it's it's or 598 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 4: if there's a more basic explanation than jumping to a 599 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 4: UFO or extraterrestrial conclusion. And Jason went on the show. 600 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 4: He drove all the way down to Roswell to present 601 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 4: a piece of footage that he shot here near Vegas 602 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 4: at night with night vision, showing some type of a 603 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 4: strange light with another light that ejects from it. And 604 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 4: I think it's very impressive looking. In fact, it reminds 605 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 4: me of a piece of footage that I got during 606 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 4: broad daylight here in Las Vegas using my high speed 607 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 4: camera in which you see some white object that has 608 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 4: a second object that ejects from it. And so I 609 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 4: don't want to spoil it for you and tell you 610 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 4: what the result was, but Jason did an excellent job. 611 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 4: I was very impressed with the way he presented his case, 612 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 4: and so it should be on Discovery Plus. If you 613 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 4: can access that, just go to do a search for 614 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 4: Alien Encounters Factor Fiction. It's a news show just came 615 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 4: out recently, and go to episode seven and I think 616 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 4: about three quarters of the way through you'll see the 617 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 4: segment with Jason Sarachi. But he did a real good job. 618 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 4: Now I told you have a little bit of sad 619 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 4: news for you. Those of you who have followed my 620 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 4: work for a long time may recall one edition I 621 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 4: did of my podcast called Joshua P. Warren Daily. If 622 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 4: you've never heard of that, just do a search a 623 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 4: Google search for Joshua P. Warren Daily. There's over five 624 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 4: hundred of them, all for free and commercial free. And 625 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 4: I posted one it looks like on July twenty eighth 626 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 4: of twenty nineteen, called Listen to what Happened When I 627 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 4: watched a Giraffe Paint a Picture? And that segment or 628 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 4: that show is about Lauren and myself traveling to this 629 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 4: lion habitat which is here near Las Vegas, and of 630 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 4: course they used to have a lot of big cats here. 631 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 4: Lions and tigers, and when they stopped using those, they 632 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 4: retired them all to this refuge, the Lion Habitat, And 633 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 4: so now you can go there and it's sort of 634 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 4: like a little zoo where you can go and walk 635 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 4: around and see these It's pretty pretty wild experience, you know, 636 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 4: they have like the MGM lion and all that kind 637 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 4: of thing. But for some reason, they also had this 638 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 4: giraffe there named Ozzy, and Ozzy was like no other 639 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 4: draft I've ever seen. A lot of times drafts seem 640 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 4: kind of aloof this giraffe was different. It seemed to 641 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 4: have a presence about it. As weird as that sounds. 642 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 4: Ozzy would just stand right there and look at you 643 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 4: and they he had just this amazing, amazing spirit, and 644 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 4: he was very talented. What his shtick was he would 645 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 4: paint pictures, and so people would gather around. They had 646 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 4: a little comedy routine they would do with him. And 647 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 4: usually what they would do is have him take different 648 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 4: paint brushes and paint one big painting and then they 649 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 4: would cut it up in the little pieces and sell 650 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 4: it off. And I went to afterward. I was so 651 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 4: impressed that I said to the folks who work there, 652 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 4: are like, look, I just keep it all intact. I 653 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 4: just want to buy the whole thing, and they're like, 654 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 4: nobody's ever done that before, said I want to do it. 655 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 4: So sure enough I bought the entire intact picture, and 656 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 4: I'm very proud to say that it hangs on the 657 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,240 Speaker 4: wall of our living room next to a big stuff giraffe. 658 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 4: And we just loved I think everybody loved Ozzy because 659 00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 4: that well, we even talked about how that if we 660 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 4: had the means, we would try to buy him and 661 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 4: take care of him. He was born in Wichita, Kansas, 662 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 4: and let's see, he was let's see, grew to be 663 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 4: seventeen feet tall. Well, anyway, he just recently turned ten 664 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 4: years old, and there was very sad news that broke 665 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 4: that in the I guess like in the early morning hours, 666 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 4: something disturbed him, something scared him. They don't say exactly 667 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 4: what it is, but he jumped up out of his 668 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 4: sleep and he fell somehow and hurt himself and he died. 669 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 4: So for those of you who followed this story, yes 670 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 4: it's heartrenching. We actually shed a tear when we found 671 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 4: that Ozzie the Giraffe is with us no more. But 672 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 4: now the painting, I suppose is even more precious to 673 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 4: have that whole attact painting by this giraffe. And the 674 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 4: funny thing is it kind of the painting kind of 675 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 4: looks like if you use your imagination, it kind of 676 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 4: looks like to me, the head of a giraffe. We'll 677 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 4: see if we can get that put up on my 678 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 4: Instagram page for you. The Joshua it's a new Instagram page, 679 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 4: so we still only have like maybe a couple hundred followers, 680 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 4: so go check it out though, if you're an instagrammer, 681 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 4: just put in Joshua P. Warren podcast. We're going to 682 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 4: try to grow this thing and post more pictures. In fact, 683 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 4: another weird animal picture that we need to post is 684 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 4: something that was recently featured on the Coast to Coast 685 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 4: am website, and there was an article written by Tim 686 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 4: Banal and it says Bigfoot photographed by game camera and 687 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 4: North Carolina question mark, and he writes, a fantastic game 688 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 4: camera photo from North Carolina shows a remarkably clear view 689 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 4: of what appears to be a mysterious bipedal creature that 690 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 4: some believe could be Bigfoot. The eyebrow raising image reportedly 691 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 4: emerged earlier by let's okay, so somebody just posted this 692 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 4: on Reddit apparently, and it seems a little bit cloudy 693 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 4: where it came from. Some people think it's like a 694 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 4: dog man or whatever, but so apparently, from what I 695 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 4: can tell, this is just a still image from a 696 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 4: game camp at night. So it's black and white, and 697 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 4: let me try to describe what this creature looks like. 698 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 4: It does look very weird at first. Okay, basically, it 699 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 4: does look by pedal. In other words, it's got two legs. 700 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 4: It looks like it's standing on two legs, and it 701 00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 4: has this oval shaped body, not much of a head, 702 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 4: as if it might be hunching over it. You can 703 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,439 Speaker 4: see what looks like possibly a bit of an arm, 704 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 4: and it's covered with this thin layer of dark hair, 705 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 4: and the skin that you can see underneath looks rather wrinkly. 706 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 4: And I can see why if you caught this thing 707 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 4: on a game cam you would kind of be freaking out. 708 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 4: And so I wasn't sure what to make of this, 709 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 4: but I do know that you can get some very 710 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 4: unusual optical illusions when you take pictures of animals from 711 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 4: certain angles, especially at night, when there are all these 712 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 4: shadows playing with things. So I sent it out there 713 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 4: and got feedback. And you know, I tell you, the 714 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 4: number one animal expert that I always have to go 715 00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,240 Speaker 4: to is my wife Lauren, because she is just basically 716 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 4: all she does is watch animal videos all the time. 717 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 4: She she's practically a zoologist. I mean, she can name 718 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 4: every kind of little weird species of animal. She looked 719 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 4: at it and she said, this is an odd angle 720 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 4: of the backside of a mangy bear. And to prove it, 721 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 4: she put some other pictures that she posted while she 722 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 4: sent them to me, and I posted them of mangy bears, 723 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 4: and I got to say, it looks a lot like 724 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 4: this is probably a Mainngi bear to me. But I 725 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 4: would like for you to look and make your own 726 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 4: your own decisions. So what we're going to try to 727 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,280 Speaker 4: do here again on the Instagram page is we'll put 728 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 4: a still of this thing as well as some of 729 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 4: the pictures that she dug up of a mangie bear, 730 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 4: and you can decide for yourself. I actually have another 731 00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 4: funny story to share with you about imagery and optical ILLUSI, 732 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 4: but apparently the clock has goddess, so that'll have to 733 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 4: wait till next time. So now, my friends, I hope 734 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 4: you've enjoyed the show, it is time for us all 735 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,280 Speaker 4: to relax. Take a deep breath if you can, close 736 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 4: your eyes, and here is the good Fortune tone. That's 737 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 4: it for this edition of the show. 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