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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm Strong

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Speaker 1: and Jack Kid and he.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Eddy Tonight.

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Speaker 3: New questions about Democrats' intentions. The Washington Post reports House

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Speaker 3: Delegate Stacey Plaskett, a Democrat from the Virgin Islands, was

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Speaker 3: caught texting with Epstein during a twenty nineteen congressional hearing

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Speaker 3: in which President Trump's the attorney Michael Cohen was testifying.

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Speaker 3: Epstein appeared to feed Plasket information in real time about

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Speaker 3: the President's finances and his aid, which she then used

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Speaker 3: in her questioning of Cohen.

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Speaker 2: Do you all remember that hearing? We took some of

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Speaker 2: it live, the fixer of the idiot, Michael Cohen, Trump's

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Speaker 4: What pulls all of them?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that guy Michael Cohen, when he was being questioned

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Speaker 2: by Congress. One of the Democrats was texting with Epstein

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Speaker 2: during the hearing, and he was feeding her questions to

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Speaker 2: try to get into Trump's finances.

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Speaker 5: And if you've seen the captioning of the texts in

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Speaker 5: real time with the video of the questioning, which they

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Speaker 5: now have, it is it's funny, but it's beyond.

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Speaker 4: Doubt exactly what was happening there.

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Speaker 5: They were using the House Democrats were using Epstein as

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Speaker 5: a how do we bad mouth Trump?

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Speaker 4: Uh source in real time?

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Speaker 2: You know, now that I think about it, I was

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Speaker 2: about to say that the crazy thing about the whole

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Speaker 2: Epstein story is there are people of all political stripes

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Speaker 2: that were hanging around with him, flying on his plane,

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But somehow, like the current mainstream media version of it is,

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Speaker 2: it's a Trump thing or a republic thing thing. But

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Speaker 2: Trump was a Democrat back in the day. He was

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Speaker 2: a Democrat his whole life, basically up to the moment

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Speaker 2: he decid I did run for president. So are there

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Speaker 2: any Republicans, like big name Republicans that were tied in

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Speaker 2: with Epstein A lot? I can't think of any of them.

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Speaker 4: That I've come across. Nothing leaves to mind. I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: just saying there aren't.

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Speaker 2: He was a big player in New York and New

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Speaker 4: Certainly, he was kind.

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Speaker 5: Of a fake Democrat honestly. I mean, he was always

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Speaker 5: pro choice. But yeah, hey, just a quick observation here,

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Speaker 5: It is a hearing where they're trying to discredit Trump

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Speaker 5: with Michael Cohen on the stand getting fed information by

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein himself, And at no point did Epstein say,

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Speaker 5: ask Trump about November of twenty oh seven at the

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Speaker 5: Island the pool party. He had nothing on him other

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Speaker 5: than he didn't like him and he thought he was,

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Speaker 5: He was literally on the line with Democrats when they

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Speaker 5: were trying to impugne Trump, and he didn't offer anything up.

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Speaker 5: Can we stop talking about that aspect of this now.

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Speaker 2: All all the emails and phone calls and everybody to

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Speaker 2: know him, there's not one where he makes it like

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Speaker 2: even pretty clear that Trump was having sex with underage girls.

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Speaker 2: And of the thousand victims out there, not one of

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Speaker 2: them have come forward and said, yeah, I had sex

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Speaker 2: with Trump in two thousand, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, their references to Trump knew about the girls or whatever,

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Speaker 5: but that's not necessarily the underage girls and having a

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Speaker 5: notion that you know, I think he made like a

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Speaker 5: young girls is different than participating in any way. I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying it's right if you know about it, and

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Speaker 5: don't say anything, but come on, by.

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Speaker 2: The way, as we are live on the radio right now.

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Speaker 2: The Senate has sent the bill to the President's desk.

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Speaker 2: It is the most bipartisan, fastest piece of legislation, by

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Speaker 2: the way, the only piece of legislation that has passed

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Speaker 2: in the last sixty days. But it's the most bipartisan,

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Speaker 2: fastest piece of legislation outside of a declaration of like

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Speaker 2: National Cookie Day, that I can think of in many, many,

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Speaker 2: many years. And now it's going to the President's day.

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Speaker 4: Every day is National Cookie Day, and.

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Speaker 2: They're going to disclose all kinds of different stuff that

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Speaker 2: normally doesn't come out from investigations. And that's where I

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Speaker 2: get to Mark Alprin's newsletter for today, which I thought

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Speaker 2: was really interesting. He writes, I had a realization this

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Speaker 2: morning about the Epstein files and Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: If Trump were a normal.

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Speaker 2: President, one whose motives weren't viewed through a funhouse mirror

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Speaker 2: by both fans and foes. It gets to Trump derangement syndrome,

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Speaker 2: which Joe is going to talk about later. The reasons

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Speaker 2: not to release the Justice Department the materials would be familiar,

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Speaker 2: even boring to most people. Presidents have always found virtue

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Speaker 2: in withholding information from investigations. The list of reasons any

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Speaker 4: Starting here, that's getting to the.

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Speaker 2: Whole Why would he be fighting it so hard? Well,

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Speaker 2: he could be doing it for the right reasons, like

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Speaker 2: the impropriety of flinging around FBI three to zero two's.

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Speaker 2: Those are the the investigation documents that they use to

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Speaker 2: look into people's lives that kind of violate your normal

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Speaker 2: constitutional standards, but they get a special uh A three

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Speaker 2: your stuff. That stuff's not supposed to come out public,

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Speaker 2: especially if you haven't been charged or convicted.

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Speaker 5: Of anything, right, right, And then those files can include,

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Speaker 5: you know, people saying I saw him, he did it.

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Speaker 5: It can include innocent mentions, it can include people who

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Speaker 5: later turn out to be liars at what they say

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Speaker 5: or all in those those files. That's why they're not

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Speaker 5: automatically admissible in court.

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Speaker 2: And this sort of stuff is going to be flying

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Speaker 2: around here within the next thirty days when the when

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Speaker 2: the Justice Department turns this stuff over. So the impropriety

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Speaker 2: helping rites. That's how republics slide toward reality television. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you start doing this all the time, with every

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Speaker 2: big investigation, and you just let everything out there, everybody's names, circumstances,

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Speaker 2: quotes that, as Joe said, might be made up. It

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Speaker 2: turns out to be someday, but that won't matter for

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Speaker 2: the time being. The collateral damage, reputations, civil liberties, livelihoods

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Speaker 2: the raw material of the justice sausage making. Absolutely, that's

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Speaker 2: where we're headed. And is this going to set a

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Speaker 5: And given the nature of our media right now, it'll

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Speaker 5: be substantially one sided too. They will ignore stuff that

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Speaker 4: God, how many times have we been through this?

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Speaker 2: Somebody brought up the other day Trump didn't release his

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Speaker 2: taxes when he ran for president, and that had been

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Speaker 2: the standard for quite some time. He wouldn't release his taxes.

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Speaker 2: There's got to be something there. Why would he fight

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Speaker 4: And then finally.

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Speaker 2: Somebody illegally leaked Donald Trump's taxes.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's ever paid a price for it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what could be worse than that somebody who

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Speaker 2: had his taxes, probably at the IRS, leaked them. I

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Speaker 2: all came out. Awful, awful crime. Nobody ever prosecuted for it,

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Speaker 2: Nobody even talks about it. Anyway, Trump's taxes come out.

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Speaker 2: There was nothing there, nothing nothing. Do you remember the story? No,

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Speaker 2: you don't, because there was nothing there.

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Speaker 5: Well, all there was was a risk guy with good

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Speaker 5: tax advice, maximizing his returns and minimizing his liabilities, which

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Speaker 5: was then portrayed just ridiculously. But I look at him,

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Speaker 5: look at him trying to minimize the amount of tax

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Speaker 5: he paid, and he answered back, yeah, that's the same

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Speaker 5: thing Hillary does, and everybody else does a get good

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Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: If you don't like it, change the tax law. But

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Speaker 2: there was nothing explosive there that he was hiding. That's

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Speaker 2: the point I'm making because the assumption here is that

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Speaker 4: It might be just like his taxes. It's just going

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Speaker 4: to be I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's also the knowledge that conspiracy theorists, Epstein, hobbyists and

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Speaker 2: profiteers will Profiteers is a big part of it. People

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of the conspiracy theorists are profiteers.

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Speaker 2: None of these people will ever be sated by any

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Speaker 2: level of disclosure. The appetite for scandal is the one

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Speaker 2: that human hunger that grows with the eating, and that

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Speaker 2: is certainly true. Right, endless hours are going to be

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Speaker 2: then Halpern also brings back presidents in the past that

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Speaker 2: of different things. See Barack Obama and his long form

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Speaker 2: George W. Bush and the missing IRAQ WMD memos, Reagan

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Speaker 2: to me, that answers the whole Why was Trump fighting

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Speaker 4: It's just what presidents do. They don't want more information.

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Speaker 2: They're not sure how it's going to be used when

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Speaker 5: Right right, right, Well, I've got to admit, now that

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Speaker 5: it's happening, I'll be curious to see whether anybody is

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Speaker 2: Right, So there's that, But then there's all how many

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Speaker 2: Larry Summers are there going to be. I'll bet there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a bunch whose lives are changed. They

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Speaker 2: And wait a second, you told me you weren't. You

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Speaker 5: Now here are your Here are your two reactions to that.

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Speaker 5: The first reaction is good, their lives should be changed.

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Speaker 5: Summers I'm thinking of specifically. And but the second reaction is, beware, friends,

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Speaker 5: this is the tempting case where you can rationalize why

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Speaker 5: about before. It's so tempting and almost justifiable. Let's throw

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Speaker 5: out all the norms and everybody who's name, who ever

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Speaker 5: let's throw that name out into the media. But the

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Speaker 5: next case, the next two cases, the next two hundred

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Speaker 5: much less excuse to do that. And what you've done

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Speaker 5: do since when if the government investigates you but decides

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Speaker 5: there's nothing we can charge here, So It's nobody's damn

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Speaker 5: Today's problems of affordability almost exclusively come from our most

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Speaker 2: That's my social answer, the socialist noise from the capitalist signal,

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Speaker 2: as people like to say nowadays.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Interestingly, a couple of my other favorites, we're

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Speaker 5: all about life choices.

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Speaker 2: That is really good. So just to do dwell on

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Speaker 2: that second before you get to the life choices. So

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Speaker 2: you have a socialist society, you do a little capitalism

445
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Speaker 2: like that in China, which helped them make a lot

446
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Speaker 2: of money, and you credit socialism.

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Speaker 5: Right, And if you insert enough socialist elements into a

448
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Speaker 5: capitalist system, when the socialist elements inevitably cause problems, people

449
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Speaker 5: blame the capitalism and then turn socialist.

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Speaker 2: That's unfortunate.

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Speaker 4: It is good.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of stuff about personal choice, and

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Speaker 5: we talked about this earlier. It is the eight hundred

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Speaker 5: pound gorilla you know in a pet store full of

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Speaker 5: little kittens. In terms of how people's lives turn out.

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Speaker 2: Well, clean up on out five there is.

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Speaker 5: There are a number of different things that can affect

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Speaker 5: your life in a material way, from your upbringing, to

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Speaker 5: your genetics, to your race, to a whole bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 5: But the idea that personal choices, your life choices aren't

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Speaker 5: listed as the king of the hill. Are not just

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Speaker 5: not listed as the king of the hill. They're not

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Speaker 5: discussed at all.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it's frowned upon if you look at them.

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Speaker 5: It's that what is an excuse what I would call governmentalism,

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Speaker 5: the idea that government should solve all of our problems.

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Speaker 2: You're shop if you're gonna take it exactly right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But I thought it was interesting that so many

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Speaker 5: really brilliant and persuade of people wrote about about personal choices.

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Speaker 2: Jim, uh, the gorilla is in the kit nile.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, not again, Okay, say no more.

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Speaker 5: And the other thing that they talk about is over

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Speaker 5: regulation and how and oh man, I just came a

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Speaker 5: crate across a great example of this. And and most

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Speaker 5: people don't know this. I didn't know it until fairly

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Speaker 5: late in life. A lot of regulations are attempting to

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Speaker 5: stifle competition. The big guys figure all right, compliance with

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Speaker 5: these complex regulations will cost us three percent of our revenue.

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Speaker 5: But a plucky startup with good ideas that wants to

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Speaker 5: come and take our market share, that'll be like fifteen

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Speaker 5: percent of their revenues and they could never afford it.

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Speaker 4: So we will.

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Speaker 5: Quash any competition with regulations that sound like they're protecting

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Speaker 5: the consumer or the environment or whatever. But they lobbied,

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Speaker 5: the big guys lobbied to regulate their own industry to

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Speaker 5: crush competition. Did you know that's a thing. It's a thing, folks.

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Speaker 5: And finally, this love Jason Riley Wall Street Journal, and

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Speaker 5: he wrote a great piece about this incredible school, Pineywood

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Speaker 5: School in Mississippi. It is again, yet again, the classic

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Speaker 5: educational success story. A lot of poor kids, a lot

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Speaker 5: of black kids doing amazing things, achieve learning, getting into college,

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Speaker 5: the rest of it. Why, high standards, strictly enforced discipline,

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Speaker 5: and high expectations of the kids, and the kids love

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Speaker 5: it and.

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Speaker 4: They excel like crazy.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like white supremacy to me.

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Speaker 4: Oh my lord.

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Speaker 5: And Jason Riley with a great piece about that. But

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Speaker 5: I was going to use that to introduce another one

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Speaker 5: of my favorite black thinkers, Roland Fryar, who's writing about

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Speaker 5: the economics of culture, which we were just talking.

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Speaker 4: About life choices.

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Speaker 5: People from cultures that emphasize productive habits tend to advance.

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Speaker 4: The reverse is also true.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's one of the most self evidently obvious

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Speaker 5: things you could possibly say. But man, that is strict

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Speaker 5: for boten on the left to say that. That is

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Speaker 5: why you hear those idiotic things like punctuality is white supremacy,

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Speaker 5: and trying hard is white supremacy and exceptionalism, or what's

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Speaker 5: the the you promote people based on their excellence? Is

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Speaker 5: white supremacy meritocracy? Meritocracy? Yeah, exactly. But Roland writes, and

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Speaker 5: you may know, he was the guy who came out

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Speaker 5: with a carefully constructed study early in his career that said, no,

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Speaker 5: young black men are not disproportionately shot and shot dead

516
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Speaker 5: in America by police. It's not true, and it was

517
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Speaker 5: unassailable research. But the left essentially made him a propriate.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, he writes, culture is one of the most

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Speaker 5: underrated ideas in economics. For decades, economists avoided invoking cultures.

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Speaker 2: The shue you are, you are scratching the biggest itch

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Speaker 2: I've got this. This is wow. Really my this is

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Speaker 2: my thing right.

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Speaker 5: Here, Putting aside the highly troubling metaphor, I'm glad to

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Speaker 5: be doing so. For decades, economists avoid invoking culture the

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Speaker 5: share values, norms, beliefs, preferences, and behaviors of a group

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Speaker 5: as an explanation for economic outcomes. It seemed too intangible

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Speaker 5: to measure and too messy to model. Thomas Sowell, Oh

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Speaker 5: my god. Two of my favorite thinkers happened to be

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Speaker 5: black men. Quoted in the same thing, whose legacy was

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Speaker 5: celebrated recently at Stanford's Hoover Institution changed that. He was

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Speaker 5: among the first economists to treat culture as an important

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Speaker 5: economic variable. Mister Soel has argued that both human capital

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Speaker 5: and culture drive mobility, more so in his view, than

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Speaker 5: discrimination or external barriers. Groups that develop productivity enhancing traits

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Speaker 5: such as skills, an orientation toward education and work, and

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Speaker 5: thriftiness tend to advance. Those whose cultures don't emphasize these

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Speaker 5: things tend to fall behind. In mister Sowell's view, culture

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Speaker 5: is a form of capital, an accumulation of habits and

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Speaker 5: know how that powerfully influences a group's project. Progress could

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Speaker 5: not be Brewer, and you know, I'd like to read

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Speaker 5: this whole thing because it is so incredibly important. I'll

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Speaker 5: bet he goes into a bunch of different studies.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, I'll bet that the reason it's so recent

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Speaker 2: that anybody talked about it, wrote about it, is that

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Speaker 2: we just were all in agreement up until fairly recently,

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Speaker 2: midsh twentieth century that yeah, of course, being thrifty and

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Speaker 2: working hard is a good idea and everybody should do

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Speaker 2: it. It was mostly in agreement. It wasn't until we started

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Speaker 2: to well, I get back to Elvis and the Beatles

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Speaker 2: and the devolving of our culture.

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Speaker 4: I think it all fits together. Actually, So again we're

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Speaker 4: pressed for time.

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Speaker 5: But so he goes into his research in his academic background,

554
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Speaker 5: and he talks about cultural differences across racial and ethnic

555
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Speaker 5: groups are unmistakable. And then he talks about various shows

556
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Speaker 5: and how popular they are among cultures. But for social scientists,

557
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Speaker 5: the hardest part of studying culture is trying to find

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Speaker 5: a way to measure it. And in the early to

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Speaker 5: mid two thousand, Stephen Levitt and I tried to ease

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Speaker 5: from the free economics guy tried to answer that question

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Speaker 5: by focusing on one small but revealing expression of cultures

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Speaker 5: the names parents give their children. Man, it's long and interesting,

563
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: but here's here's the most revealing part of this. They

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Speaker 5: went into other parts of the world, other countries with

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Speaker 5: cultures you know nothing about, and you had two groups

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Speaker 5: of people that looked just like this, just the same,

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Speaker 5: similar religions, et cetera. But over here they valued hard work, savings, education,

568
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Speaker 5: et cetera. Over there, they didn't guess what the first

569
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Speaker 5: group did way way better than the other ones. And

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Speaker 5: it wasn't white supremacy because there weren't any damn white people.

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Speaker 5: They refer to the fact that and what's the number

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Speaker 5: I wish I could find it that Pakistani Americans earned

573
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Speaker 5: sixty cents on the dollar to Indian Americans because of

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Speaker 5: what white racism?

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 5: No?

577
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Speaker 4: Cultural dorms.

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Speaker 5: It's like the most important thing in the world, and

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Speaker 5: nobody wants to talk about.

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Speaker 4: It because I chickens. But I don't care. I'll talk about.

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Speaker 2: It, sir, chickens. We'll finish strong next time.

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Speaker 8: Billionaire hedge fund manager Bill Ackman shared some dating advice

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Speaker 8: every the week on AX and said that he would

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Speaker 8: ask may I meet you before engaging further in a conversation,

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Speaker 8: and claimed he quote almost never got to know. However,

586
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Speaker 8: he did get a lot of six digit phone numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his opening line. He'd walk up to

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Speaker 2: women and say, may I meet you? And he said

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Speaker 2: it worked a lot. Guess what, he's a pretty good

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00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: looking guy. See, that's the thing with everything when it

591
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: comes to dating. That opening line works if you look

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Speaker 2: like him. Practically, any opening line would work if you

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Speaker 2: look like him, Almost none would work if you don't.

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Speaker 2: And it's the same with just all kinds of different days.

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Speaker 2: That Colonne smells good on.

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Speaker 4: You because you're attractive.

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Speaker 2: It's making it just all kinds of different things like that.

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Speaker 2: It's just I've always had.

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Speaker 5: Study that came out that good looking guys are almost

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Speaker 5: never cited for a sexual harassment, whereas the plain looking

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Speaker 5: sort are all the time for precisely the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Chris Rock has a routine where he talks about the

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Speaker 2: guy who gets the most girls sets the fashion sense

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Speaker 2: for your friend group when you're young. And I was

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Speaker 2: looking back on my life and that's very, very true.

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Speaker 2: And he said, like, you know, there's a group of

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Speaker 2: four or five dudes are all friends. The guy who

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Speaker 2: girls like the most. You look at his outfit and you think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: those are pretty cool shoes. I need some shoes like that.

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Speaker 2: You think that that's like the key and it's and

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Speaker 2: it's not rich. The most expensive piece of modern art

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Speaker 2: sold yesterday sought to be sold this painting from nineteen fourteen.

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Speaker 2: This is really early modern art. I don't mind early

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Speaker 2: modern art because it actually looks like art. But it's

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Speaker 2: sold for two hundred and thirty six million dollars in salteds.

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Speaker 4: This one particular painting, Clint. It's in my family room.

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Speaker 4: Looks great over the sofa. Cool Yeah, nice.

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Speaker 9: Down Strong, down strong, Ready, Katy Strong.

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Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Geddy.

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Speaker 5: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew

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Speaker 5: to wrap things up for the day. There is our

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Speaker 5: technical director, Michael Langelow. Michael, final thought.

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Speaker 7: You are so correct about life being all about choices

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Speaker 7: you make.

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Speaker 5: I think back, and I think if I'd made that choice,

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Speaker 5: that my life would be different.

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Speaker 4: But I'm pretty happy with the way things worked out.

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Speaker 4: I'm good for you.

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Speaker 5: There you go, Katie Greener Esteemed Newswoman As a final thought, Katie.

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Speaker 7: We were calling raccoon's trash pandas my two other favorites,

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Speaker 7: gators are murder logs and peacocks are disco chickens murder.

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Speaker 4: They're both great. Jack of final thought.

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Speaker 2: Just a justify us talking about it a lot today.

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Speaker 2: Latest poll eighty percent of Americans wanted the Epstein files

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Speaker 2: to come out, including two.

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Speaker 4: Thirds of Republicans.

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Speaker 2: Lots of people agreed with that.

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Speaker 5: My final thought is also raccoon related. I'm fascinated by

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Speaker 5: this article from Scientific American talking about how raccoons are

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Speaker 5: doing exactly what dogs did way way way back in

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Speaker 5: the day, hanging around kind of at the edge of

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Speaker 5: our campsite, picking at the garbage, and the more friendly

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Speaker 5: ones and the less aggressive ones are getting closer and closer.

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Speaker 4: Soon somebody's gonna pet one.

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Speaker 5: You know, they may get their hand chewed off, but

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Speaker 5: maybe not hat raccoons in.

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Speaker 4: Thirty years, one hundred years, we don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that more in the One

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Speaker 2: More Thing podcast?

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Speaker 5: Are we not?

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Speaker 2: I thought we were?

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Speaker 4: I don't remember when I would not. Armstrong Inghetti wrapping

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Speaker 4: up another grueling.

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Speaker 2: Four hour workday.

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Speaker 5: You gotta go to armstrong Ayetti dot com check out

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Speaker 5: the Armstrong a Getty Swag store.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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