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Speaker 1: Media. Words are funny.

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Speaker 2: That's how I'm opening this because look, there's sounds that

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Speaker 2: we just decided meant stuff to the point of where

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Speaker 2: sounds can make you take somebody life. And sometimes the

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Speaker 2: same sound can mean different things depending on their spelling

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Speaker 2: their context. Give an example, when Black people say barbecue,

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Speaker 2: we could be talking about three different things. We could

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Speaker 2: be talking about the food Barbecue. We could be talking

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Speaker 2: about as in like the style of cooking barbecue, the food.

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Speaker 2: We could be talking about the actual act of cooking

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Speaker 2: that food. To barbecue. We could be talking about an event.

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Speaker 2: We are going to the barbecue. You not invited to

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Speaker 2: the barbecue. The what the East call the cookout, we

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Speaker 2: call the barbecue out here out west.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's the same with the Latinos, like with Mexicans. They

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Speaker 2: say the Canada, they mean one of three things.

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Speaker 1: They mean the act of grilling. We are going to

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Speaker 1: have it.

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Speaker 2: Cadogna saida that is we're gonna have barbecue, We're gonna grill,

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Speaker 2: and we are going to eat Cardiaa like they just

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Speaker 2: it's the name of the food, it's the act of grilling,

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Speaker 2: and it's the event.

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Speaker 1: So that's the Mexican version of saying.

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Speaker 2: When we be like, oh, you ain't invited to the barbecue,

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Speaker 2: they say you're not invited to the cardie asada, Like

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Speaker 2: that's what they mean.

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Speaker 1: The word is the same.

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Speaker 2: It means three different things depending on the context and

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Speaker 2: when it's coming out their mouth.

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Speaker 1: You could figure out what's happening. Now.

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Speaker 2: I say all that to get very serious on to

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Speaker 2: talk about the words zion. Oh, it's about to get

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Speaker 2: I felt like I heard the record scratch right now,

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Speaker 2: because if you've listened to reggae music, if you've heard

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Speaker 2: anything made by Bob Marley, you don't heard the word

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Speaker 2: zion many times.

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Speaker 1: You're a fan of Lauren Hill. What's the name of

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Speaker 1: her child? Zion? Now that Joe and mild in Zion.

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Speaker 3: Black people love Zion, Moltzion a boy on the side

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Speaker 3: of Babylon trying to front like you down with mozoyon

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Speaker 3: ou la la la is the way that we rock

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Speaker 3: with we doing out think.

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Speaker 2: The black hotep Rosta, you know, chow stick. We'd love Zion.

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Speaker 2: We're chanting down Babylon. Babylon is will be defeated by

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Speaker 2: Mount Zion. Is that the same Zion in Israel and Palestine.

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Speaker 1: What y'all mean by that? Then?

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Speaker 2: What the hell is a Zionist? So is that somebody

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Speaker 2: that believe in Mount Zion?

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Speaker 1: Like? What? How? What is Zionism?

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure if you listen to this show data ops, right,

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Speaker 2: you you convince Zion like those are the ops.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if the thought has ever crossed

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Speaker 1: your mind to be like, well, is is the.

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Speaker 2: Zionism that y'all talking about the same Zion? And Zion

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Speaker 2: is that the rosters.

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Speaker 1: Are talking about?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's never crossed your mind, but it's the word

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Speaker 2: needs to be dissected. So I am using this moment

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Speaker 2: to teach you two things. What do the rosters mean

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Speaker 2: when they say Zion? And what is Zionism and its history?

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Speaker 2: All right to a politics? Okay, listen first before I

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Speaker 2: get into it. This week is like this.

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Speaker 1: What look is like this? What look is like this?

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Speaker 1: It's like this sun? It's like that sun, like I'm pumping.

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Speaker 1: Let me take the news serious, all right? This week

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Speaker 1: it's like this.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Olympics ended, and I'm only excited about breaking.

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Speaker 2: I'm sad that it's not gonna be in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: eight and it's not because of ray Gun. They decided

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Speaker 2: which sucks. I don't know why they decided that, but

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Speaker 2: they decided that way back in twenty twenty. Having said that,

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Speaker 2: speaking of ray Gun, I know she's taken over to memes.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad for these amazing b boys and be girls,

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been in a battle? Okay, Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: from LA.

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Speaker 2: So that double time kind of what you think is

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Speaker 2: bone thugs and harmony chopping stuff that originates at a

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Speaker 2: place called the Good Life Project blowed this group called

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Speaker 1: My figured rymee look at a time like, I don't

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Speaker 2: So if you're at a spot and you're battling somebody

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Speaker 2: and they killing it on the double time, it's killing

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Speaker 2: the crowd you have. You I can't compete with that.

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Speaker 2: You gotta go all the way the other way. You

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Speaker 2: gotta get real creative and try to do something else.

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Speaker 2: So for me it becomes I'm gonna try to do

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Speaker 2: a gang of wordplay and get really creative with a pattern.

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Speaker 2: My time rhymes to find the mind saturn roller skate

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Speaker 2: rhymes to find a kind kattern, pump a bone battern

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Speaker 2: for the bold flatter, you will flatter you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'll make you scatter like just something else.

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Speaker 2: You gotta take a.

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Speaker 1: Chance, and sometimes it lands, sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you get creative, you take a shot like take

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Speaker 2: old dirty bastard, he don't rap like the rest of

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Speaker 2: wu tag. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And I

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Speaker 2: picked up when she was throwing down. She was trying

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Speaker 2: to rep the ausie land, do animal style kangaroo hops

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't.

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Speaker 2: Now I don't know nothing about her husband being in

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Speaker 2: charge of no thing and all that good stuff that

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Speaker 2: they were saying. All I know is you have to

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Speaker 2: battle a lot of people to get to the top,

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Speaker 2: and battling is very subjective, and sometimes creativity and style

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Speaker 2: points count. But when your creativity just swinging a miss.

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Speaker 2: She clearly don't have no power moves. She was battling

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Speaker 2: logistics who got style, finess, flavored dance, intangibles and power moves.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: I saw a headspinning there, but she clearly don't have

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Speaker 2: no power move. So she's trying to fight back with style.

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Speaker 1: Just didn't work.

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Speaker 2: So I'm saying this as somebody who has been in

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Speaker 2: and the words sound like gibberish.

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Speaker 1: She too, She took a creative chance and it was

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it happens on a serious note. Okay, receipts are

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Speaker 2: being pulled on walls and on JD and everybody involved,

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Speaker 2: doing their best to make Project twenty twenty five Trump's thing,

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Speaker 2: it to Trump. I can't believe I'm saying this in

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Speaker 2: his defense. That is a lot of overlap, but that's

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Speaker 2: their own thing now Trump, it's all caps saying Trump

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Speaker 2: he don't know who the people are because he know

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Speaker 1: So that's cap.

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Speaker 2: But it's in his defense, is not his now? Secondly,

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Speaker 2: in JD Vance's defense. I know, I know what it

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Speaker 2: sounds like, but I'm gonna say it. He being dragged

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Speaker 2: over this app harvest startup. So that was a company

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Speaker 2: that was an agricultural company that was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: an Appalachia and was going to give hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 2: he one of us. It's going to be a fresh job.

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Speaker 2: Again, he was an investor and he was just on

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Speaker 2: the board. Now, I have sat on a couple boards.

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Speaker 2: And just because you're on the board don't mean you

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Speaker 2: in charge of operation now. And just because you're an

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Speaker 2: investor don't mean you in charge of the money now.

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Speaker 2: You got a lot to say, obviously, but you can't

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Speaker 2: necessarily be blamed for everything to go bad, and you

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Speaker 2: can't necessarily take the praise for everything that go good. Now,

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Speaker 2: not only did this business fail. Before it failed, they

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Speaker 2: And while everybody was like, man, I can't work in here.

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Speaker 2: They brought in not a couple migrant workers, not even

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Speaker 2: which in any other scenario, all right, what do I care?

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Speaker 2: The reason why any of us care is because you

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Speaker 2: supposed to be Captain Appalachia.

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Speaker 1: You called yourself that.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't call yourself Captain Appalachia, it would have

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Speaker 2: I mean, what you're gonna say, Homeie, I saw your

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Speaker 2: And his answer was, yeah, sucked. I invested and I

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Speaker 2: was on the board, but I mean I wasn't in charge.

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Speaker 2: And in his defense, he's.

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Speaker 1: Right now if it is wallskutog.

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Speaker 2: Y'all still calling that man tampon ten as if you ain't.

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Speaker 2: All you got to do, beloved is read it. You

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Speaker 2: can read the law. It is all over Beyonce's Internet.

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Speaker 2: I'm a reader for you. You Article one General Education,

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Speaker 2: Section one one dot two twelve Access to menstrual products.

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Speaker 2: by the school district for purposes of this section. Menstrual

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's what the law say.

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Speaker 2: Not the whole reputting tampos and boys bathrooms. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 2: I just read you the law. That's what the law say.

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Speaker 2: So just you know, cap down a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: The DNC has started. We looking for you to put

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Speaker 2: some words to your excitement.

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Speaker 1: Anti.

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Speaker 2: We looking for Joe to like, you know, go out

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Speaker 2: in a blaze of glory and uh, it's all week

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Speaker 2: this week now. Now, I did get to watch a

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Speaker 2: lot of Mondays, not enough to do a full recap.

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Speaker 2: But the thing that's most interesting right now is the

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Speaker 2: comparison to the nineteen sixty eight one, which was there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of similarities. There was a huge protest that

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Speaker 2: happened in sixty eight against the Vietnam War, and right

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Speaker 2: now there's a huge protest going on against the war

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Speaker 2: in Gaza. The difference in nineteen sixty eight and now

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Speaker 2: TV like we all saw it this time. See Robert

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Speaker 2: much kind of behaved.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty chill.

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Speaker 2: Now we'll see, But right now it's being pretty chill,

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Speaker 2: relatively speaking. And what's different this time is Joe went

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Speaker 2: off script. Joe said, you know what, them protesters out there,

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Speaker 2: they got a point.

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Speaker 1: Innocent people being killed on both sides.

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Speaker 2: Now, now, Sophie says she got a view of the

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Speaker 2: teleprompter that wasn't on the script. Now, of course we're

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Speaker 2: just history now because anti blackness is universal.

435
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: When they got to.

436
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: Israel, the modern Israel, a lot of Ethiopian women were sterilized.

437
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: And if you walk around Jerusalem, just like everywhere else,

438
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: the people doing all of the all of the dirty work,

439
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: all of the bront work, all of the jobs, nobody

440
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: won't are the black. Unfortunately, that being said, the tie

441
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: between Ethiopia, the ancient religion of Judaism, and the ancient

442
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: people of Israel, one because of the region, one because

443
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: of folklore, and one because of DNA has Ethiopia is

444
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: the verifiably connected to whatever the ancient Jerusalem was. Okay,

445
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: you fast forward to Holly SELASSII in the nineteen thirties,

446
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: who they believe according to a Rasta him Is, I

447
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: want to say two hundred and twenty fifth, my I

448
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: think that's what my cousin told me two hundred and

449
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: twenty fifth. Don't quote me on this, I'm just quoting

450
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: my cousin of the Solomonic dynasty. So they believe that

451
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: like the actual king, like a descendant of King David right,

452
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: a son of David kind of like who Jesus was

453
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: a descendant of David, right, was also Selassia ya ya

454
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 2: ya aa you following me?

455
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: Okay?

456
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: Now, the word Arastafarii comes from Halli Selassi, which is

457
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: ras Tafarai. Right, It's it was his name, right. So

458
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: he was one of the only independent black leaders in

459
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 2: Africa at the time. Right, So he bears this cultural, political, historic,

460
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: and symbolic importance to just the African diaspora. Now, once

461
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: you get into the practices of Rastafarianism, like again like

462
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: the rastadim, the way of life, like the diet, you know,

463
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: avoiding shellfish, eating seafood, like it's pretty similar to like

464
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: kosher practices again because they have this tie to the.

465
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: Land, the history.

466
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: So there's there's a lot of practices that are like

467
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 2: that are that they they they have a lot of

468
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: practices about being welcoming to the sojourner, about the way

469
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: that we collectively sing ja is a Jamaican version of

470
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: saying yah, which is short for yahweh.

471
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: So when we say.

472
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Jah rastafari, you know it's your ja is yah yahweh

473
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: or jahovah. Right.

474
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: So these a lot.

475
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 2: Of them are vegetarian. They don't eat meat at all.

476
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: Definitely not be for pork. Because you keep the temple clean, right,

477
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: you very rarely are gonna find and overweight rasta like

478
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: they're usually in incredibly good shape. The dreadlocks have to

479
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: do what what's called the valve the Nazarite because again

480
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: we're talking the Old Testament Samson in the Bible. You

481
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 2: know Samson with his golden locks, you know the Samson

482
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: and Delilah. Like Samson that took what's called a Nazarite vow,

483
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 2: which was a vow to keep himself holy to the Lord.

484
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: And the symbol of that holiness to the Lord was

485
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: not crust cutting your hair. This is as a symbol

486
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: of our holiness.

487
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: The vow of the Nazarite. You grow your dreadlocks. Right.

488
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: Dreadlocks was a term given to us by the British

489
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: that we just own Nazi dread so because our hair,

490
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: our locks were dreadful, so dreadlocks. There's also sex that

491
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: believe that like God grabs the dead souls by their

492
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: dreadlocks and bring them to brings them to Heaven. Again,

493
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: there's the symbols beautiful, but either way, it's a symbol

494
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: of the promise your commitment to keeping yourself sanctified to

495
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: the Father, right is if you're being a traditional rostadem

496
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Now their belief different than it's still again so follow me.

497
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: This is still at Abrahamic faith.

498
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: That's why you're gonna hear terms like mauzaion, right, which

499
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to specifically in a second. But their

500
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: belief different than Christianity, although similar in a lot of ways,

501
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: similar to Judaism in a lot of ways. Their belief

502
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: is that, like I said, Selassie was the Messiah. Right,

503
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: this is an Afrocentric belief. How did it get to

504
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Jamaica the trans Atlantic slave trade. So it gets to

505
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: Jamaica via the slave trade. We got carted off. Remember

506
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: this is an Afrocentric belief. And when Africans got brought

507
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: to Jamaica, they brought their beliefs.

508
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: Then it sinked.

509
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: You know, had a lot of syncretism with a lot

510
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: of like the voodoo and tribal and Caribbean practices, you know,

511
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that was happening in the Caribbean.

512
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: That because again this is East Africa, West Africa with

513
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: the Arishi and the you know, and a lot of

514
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: the West African beliefs are a little more animis.

515
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: You know, and not so Abrahammick, if you will.

516
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: Right, all that to say, just like any other faith,

517
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: tradition or practice, when it travels, it takes on a

518
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: lot of the personalities, traditions, and practices of the people

519
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: that it traveled with and the location it lands. So

520
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: the music that you hear, because obviously if you hear

521
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: music in Ethiopia, it don't sound like reggae because reggae

522
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: is Jamaican, right, So what you consider Rastafarian, you think Caribbean,

523
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: because that's I mean, I get it right. And Ethiopia

524
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: is Christian, right of course, there's obviously it's a modern country.

525
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: There's millions of religions there, not millions, but you know

526
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: what I mean, there's a lot of different religions there,

527
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: but Ethiopia's Christian rasta that's birthed out of the diaspora

528
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: that has its.

529
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Tie to Ethiopia.

530
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: Y'all following me, you have people like Marcus Garvey, right,

531
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: who we need to at some point do a whole

532
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: study on him in the Back to Africa movement. And

533
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: I don't have time to get into the depths of

534
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: Marcus Garvey. But but the point was, as far as

535
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: the Pan African experience, were those who the diaspora, we

536
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: who got separated from our land, whether it was your

537
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: run of the mill black Baptist slave in Tuscaloosa, right

538
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: in Mobile, Alabama, backwoods of preacher and you know, making Georgia,

539
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: that we was on the plantations.

540
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: If a Bible got into our.

541
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: Hands, it was so easy to see ourselves in the

542
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: children of Israel. Like it's not hard to see. If

543
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: you read the Book of Exodus, you like, damn, that's us.

544
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: It was too it was too the connection is too obvious.

545
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: We're like, oh my gosh, cart it off into slavery

546
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: from a distant land. Like and then there's a longing

547
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: for a return to your promised land. The city and

548
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: the capital of my promised land is the city of Zion.

549
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: You're following me.

550
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: It would be the same in the Caribbean for the

551
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: rastadem But they looking back in Selassie, it is Rastafarianism

552
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: is by definition anti colonial, obviously, and they believe that

553
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: Africa is their not only their their literal ancestral homeland,

554
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: but it's their spiritual homeland and the country of Ethiopia

555
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: gets a particular reverence because of the role it played

556
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: in the nineteenth century for the resistance of because of Selassie,

557
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: for the resistance of European imperialism. Everybody else fell, Ethiopia didn't.

558
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: So the gold, green, and red colors of the modern

559
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: Ethiopia flag are the traditional colors of the Rastafarian because

560
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: it can in some ways get it roots, gets its

561
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: roots from there.

562
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: Right.

563
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I know that was a long preamble, but you

564
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: gotta understand we're talking. So once you have this understanding

565
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: of your connection to Judaism practice anti colonial you know, dispersed,

566
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: taken away from your homeland and longing for a return

567
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: to your promised land, now we could talk about what

568
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: Zion is. Now, Rastafarian has two basic tent poles Zion Babylon.

569
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: You hear that stuff in all the raget you listen to, right,

570
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: So these are the theological ideology ideological tent poles. The

571
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: dichotomy is tied again to the anti colonial origins because Babylon,

572
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: remember again in your Old Testament, is the symbol of

573
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: the evil powers, the evil empire, just like in the Bible,

574
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: it's the the the the epitome.

575
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: It is everything that's wrong in the world.

576
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: It's the system is symbolized in king Nebukane, the the

577
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: and the kingdom of Babylon.

578
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: And we long to see Babylon fall.

579
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: We chant down bout this worldly system that enslaves and

580
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: and and attacks and and seeks to control not only

581
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: the outward person, but the inside of you what what

582
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: Christians would call your sin nature worldly Babylon. Right. So,

583
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: if you're following again the saga of the Old Testament

584
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: Israel fleeing Egypt or getting away from Egypt, becoming free

585
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: and then being enslaved.

586
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: By Babylon again, Babylon's the problem. Does that make sense? Now?

587
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: In the Bible, Zion is just.

588
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: Another name for Jerusalem, right, and it can refer to

589
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: the land of Israel fully. Now the Rastafarian Okay, this

590
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: is where our difference is repurpose the Biblical definition to

591
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: an Afrocentric direction. For the Rasta Zion is the continent

592
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: of Africa, specifically Ethiopia. But the term represents not just

593
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: a physical place, because Ethiopia is just Ethiopia, but it's

594
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: an ideal. It's what we would call to become cross.

595
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: It's this is paradise. This is Thy Kingdom. Come Thy

596
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. Zion,

597
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: Heaven and Earth meets. So it's not just it's it's

598
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: physical and so much more, which in a lot of

599
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: ways is the same for the jew But we'll get

600
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: to that. It is the destruction of a worldly system

601
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: and the raising of a selected godly kingdom where all

602
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: of us. What we would talk about, the Christians would

603
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: talk about the Kingdom of God is righteousness, peace, enjoying

604
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: the Holy goth is to be a part of the kingdom.

605
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: So it's a both place and it's an idea to

606
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: strive for. Right where the Rasta's they would equate with

607
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: preserving and glorifying Black African culture, right the Iron Lion

608
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: of Zion, you know, Bob Marley's you know some but

609
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: for more information, like Rastafari is kind of like like

610
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: how we have denominations. There's a divide it into mansions,

611
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: and they got it from like the Gospel of John

612
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: when Jesus says, in my father's house there are many mansions.

613
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: Right again, I'm telling you it's an Abrahamic faith. A

614
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: lot of people don't think it's just a. It's a

615
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: black you know, anti colonial African outpour of it. Right,

616
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: so you have like the Bobo, the Ashanti, the twelve tribes.

617
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: That's that's a denomination, if you will, they would call

618
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: it the twelve tribes of Israel. N I never pronounced it, right,

619
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: But the Naya be the Naya be BINGI like, I

620
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: never pronounce it right. But there are a certain type

621
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 2: now some again, there are some look more traditional than others,

622
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: and then a lot of people just follow like an

623
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: individual like rasta way of viewing it. But at the

624
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: end of the day, Ethiopia is, for lack of better term,

625
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: the new Jerusalem. This is zion when we're talking about Rastad. Okay,

626
00:37:17,760 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: now what the Zionists believe? Next? All right, we're back

627
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: now Zionism the name the overall name for right now.

628
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: You know, if you're pro Palestine, that's the.

629
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: Name of the bad guys. They're Zionists.

630
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: And people have tried to separate the idea of anti

631
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: Semitism from Zionists being anti Zionists, that these are different things.

632
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Now that would mean that you'd have to understand all

633
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: those things and their history from them. Now I'm trying

634
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: to handle this like with as much respect as I can,

635
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: because I'm talking about a culture that's not mine, right,

636
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 2: So please grant me that grace that there's I'm probably

637
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: gonna overlook. Like I said in the beginning, I'm probably

638
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: gonna overlook some stuff that I'm not trying to overlook.

639
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give as best as I can and

640
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: understanding right of these different things anti am I that's

641
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: I mean, those are the Nazis. You just don't believe that.

642
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: It's a type of thing. It's a type of overall

643
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: term for the concept of the convolution of idea, this

644
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: weird idea that all that is wrong. Like it's almost

645
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: like you've made the Jew Babylon, you know what I'm saying,

646
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: Like we just talked about like you, they are everything

647
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: that's wrong. They are both. They are both the killers

648
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: of Jesus. They are the vermin that I'm trying to

649
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: describe anti Semitism, the the the religion and the ethnicity

650
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: that somehow or another is poor and subhuman but also

651
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: quietly controls all of the inner workings of money and

652
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: power in the world. And your only solution is to

653
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: wipe them out. That would be anti Semitic. That's the

654
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: idea of that that comes from this thing called the

655
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: Protocols of Zion, which again the word Zion I'm gonna

656
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: talk about, which is something that we've talked about on

657
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 2: the Behind the Bastards episodes of the Protocols design.

658
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: Now that's anti Semitic.

659
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: Now once we get into now if you remember the

660
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: one of the You Wasn't Outside episodes when we pulled

661
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: the clip of a rabbi explaining the idea of what

662
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: makes a Jew a Jew according to the faith is

663
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: they're covenant with Yahweh. That it's not necessarily a location.

664
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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, to see it as a

665
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: location is to minimize it. Where he was like the

666
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: Promised Land that our claim is because we are in

667
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: covenant with Yahweh and that can happen anywhere.

668
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: The location don't matter. So to say that the capital

669
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: has to be.

670
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: In Jerusalem or has to be in Tel Aviv because

671
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: that's God's will is He's like, no, you're missing the point,

672
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: Like who cares where a modern nation state plants? Like

673
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: that's a secular system that is like the rastadem would

674
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: say that is Babylon. To worry about what other nations

675
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: say I am a part of the kingdom, and the

676
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: kingdom exists because I am in covenant with yaw. We

677
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: are a covenant people. That's what makes that's what gives

678
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 2: us our Jewishness is our covenant with y'owe.

679
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Who cares what the borders are.

680
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: That would be a specific type of Judaism, right, A

681
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: religious type of Judaism. Now, an ethnic Judaism something different.

682
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: A political Judaism is something different. And that's what we're

683
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: going to talk about right now. Zionism as we're talking

684
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: about not the Rastadim, but Zionism. You could say, I'd say,

685
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: go back to August twenty ninth, eighteen ninety seven. It

686
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: was a meeting on the Rhine River in this small

687
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: city like in Switzerland.

688
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: Called Basil, right, um Basil.

689
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: Now, this meeting had people from all over the world,

690
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: and it was to discuss this concept of Zionism. Now,

691
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: like I said in the Biot, like I said, zion

692
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: is just a biblical term for Jerusalem. Right, So they

693
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: choose that term because if you're paying attention to Europe Pagras,

694
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: it ain't a good place for Jews. It's been all

695
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: bad for them for a while. And this discussion was

696
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: to say we have to have a place cause it

697
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: seemed like no matter where we go, we not want it.

698
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 2: Now they pull in all the way back Damaal freaking

699
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 2: Canaan to Egypt. They are talking about their deep history

700
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: and they're like, like, no matter where we go, we

701
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: not want it. So we need to find a place

702
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: where we could just be ourselves. And they thought, what

703
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 2: better place than our ancestral homeland. Now, if you're looking

704
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: around this room, you would think the same thing. I

705
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: would think, y'all white as hell, Like you're you're European.

706
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't understand the same.

707
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: Way that you would probably look at that Ethiopian and go,

708
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: but you're African.

709
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: But follow me now.

710
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: So people in during the time, from like Munich, from Germany,

711
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: from Poland, from Switzerland, they're like, what is you talking about?

712
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: Like I'm just as German as everybody they German. They're like,

713
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: we speak German, like this is just our religious Like

714
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: I ain't never seen I never been to Israel, never

715
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: seen Israel.

716
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Israel's not a thing at the time.

717
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: That place is Palestine, you know, like it's not a

718
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: that's not a that's it would be the same as

719
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: me saying I need to go back to Nubia, but

720
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: like Nubia's gone, you know black people like again a

721
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: Marcus Garvey thing, but that was closer today time, like

722
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: you need to go back to there's no place here

723
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 2: wanted for you. I'm like, well, that's not I don't

724
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know the language they speak at Tobo.

725
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: I'm guessing that because I took an African ancestry and

726
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 2: they were saying I'm my father side that maybe.

727
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do I know about? I don't even

728
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: think about that.

729
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: So the Jews at the time were like, what, I

730
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: don't this what did you talking about? Like it would

731
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: be the equivalent to a back to Africa movement to

732
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: where it's like, I mean, it sounds cool, but like

733
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: I mean it's already people there, and I mean it's

734
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: been hundreds of year, like I'm German, like we're German.

735
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: A lot of the rabbis were like, look, first of all,

736
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: this is blasphemous. Were not supposed to return until the

737
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: Messiah come, Like that's what the prophecies that, and he

738
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: gonna bring us back.

739
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: I don't know about what the hell you doing? Right?

740
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: And then the others, like the more modern ones, were like, well,

741
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: we're not a nation like. That was actually the point,

742
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: Like don't you then you read yo yo taura, you

743
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: don't need a king. I'm your king. You're not a

744
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: nation like That's the point. The point is you're supposed

745
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: to be different. I'm your king. You're a part of

746
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: a kingdom of God, the kingdom of Heaven, and I'll

747
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: bring you back when it's time, when the Messiah come.

748
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: So like whatever y'all doing, that's not even now I'm

749
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: saying that again, this is eighteen ninety seven.

750
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: That's that was the belief of them.

751
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: Now again those were some rabbi and not only that,

752
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: Like I said, they're like, well, I'm French, I do

753
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: what anyway, Enter this guy named Theodore Herzel right, who

754
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: was a journalist who covered this actually probably one of

755
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: the most radicalizing moments for anybody, for any Jew in Europe, right,

756
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: and it was the case for this man named Alfred Dreyfus, right,

757
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: which basically became like the trial of the century. They

758
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: called it the Dreyfus affair, and the journalist who covered

759
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: it was Theodore Herzel. Basically, the Dreyfus was accused of

760
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: treason and found guilty and sentenced to like a work prism,

761
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: totally wrongfully convicted, completely.

762
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: Out of nowhere, y'all made all that up.

763
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: But how that work was like because he was Jewish,

764
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: it became not just about him, but that you can't

765
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: trust the jew. And Theodore Hertzel's watching all this, and

766
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: he's watching the people get whipped up into a frenzy.

767
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: People that was just your neighbors. Like again, I'm just

768
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: as German as you, I'm just as European as you are. Like, fam,

769
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: I remember the feeling when Trump first started taking over

770
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: the brains of the white Christian where I was like dog,

771
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: we was at cracker Barrel yesterday.

772
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: What happened?

773
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: Like we used to what just what has bewitched you?

774
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: Like all of was you like this the whole time?

775
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: It was super confusing. It's like all of a sudden,

776
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: we're different, y'all. It's me like I've been meet this

777
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: whole time. So Theodore Hertzel was like, yo, okay, listen,

778
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: we clearly not wanted here and it's only gonna get worse.

779
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: Turns out he was absolutely correct.

780
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: So he comes up with this idea that is like

781
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: he's like, Okay, I'm gonna suggest a Jewish state in

782
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: the current state of Nation of Palestine. Y'all think I'm

783
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: crazy right now, But in about fifty years you gonna

784
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: see this was eighteen ninety seven. Guess what happened in

785
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: fifty years nineteen forty eight shoots Israel.

786
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: Bekay, days, ain't that crisy?

787
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: So now Zionism, you want to be able to distinguish

788
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: it between two different types of Zionism, right, And this

789
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: is where I would critique making the concept the bad guy,

790
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 2: because there's two types here.

791
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: Okay, there's the.

792
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: Zionism that comes out of a longing for a home

793
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: that's where us and erastas actually share a place where

794
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: we can be fully accepted, fully ourselves, and fully safe,

795
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: because again, we're not wanted anywhere we are, right So, there's.

796
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: A longing for a home that you've been ripped away from.

797
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: Right now, when they say ripped away from, like we're

798
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: talking guess what I'm talking about King of Babylon. We're

799
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 2: talking about the nations being scattered like five eighty BC

800
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: when the Ark of the Covenant went missing, and this beautiful,

801
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: amazing Kingdom of Israel that used to exist in modern

802
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 2: day Palestine Israel, in that region that was called Judea

803
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: at that time where they existed.

804
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: And then.

805
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: If you know your history, I've said this so many

806
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: times in the usn't outside episodes, that little strip of

807
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: land has been conquered and colonial and ran by every

808
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 2: possible kingdom, every possible empire in the modern world, finally

809
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: by Britain. And then but as that was happening, the

810
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: people who were ethnically Israeli as we mean the in

811
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: the ancient sense, were scattered all over the world.

812
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: So that's why you could be white.

813
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 2: As hale in Jewish and you could be black as

814
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: hale in Jewish because they were scattered, right. And then

815
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: of course now you're not going to marry people while

816
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: you're there. But somehow or another they've been able to

817
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: keep on to their traditions and their religions because they

818
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: were also it's one of those things which you're ethnically

819
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: and religiously and your identity so anyway, scattered all over

820
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: the world. But as as we know, there's plenty of

821
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: people that didn't lead. Again, I'm giving you you wasn't

822
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: outside history, which you understand, so there's this longing of

823
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 2: being like, man, this we used to have a place

824
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: to be in the world, and you feel like you're

825
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: looking around everybody else got a place to be in

826
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: the world. This is born from despair, and rightfully so.

827
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: But then there's this other type of Zionism that is

828
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: more like this idea of reclaiming and enthusiasm about our

829
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: heritage and our culture, like we need we need to

830
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: be like the same way I would be like loud

831
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: and black, like we need to be black as hell

832
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: out here, Like we need to reclaim take up space

833
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: and be ourselves rather than like shrinking ourselves, Like I

834
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: want to reclaim all that it is for us to

835
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 2: be us now as a minority. That shouldn't be hard

836
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: for you to understand. I mean, that's us sitting here

837
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: in America. And then you got the Republicans being like, well,

838
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: you're American first, and I'm like, nah, nigga, I'm black.

839
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: I got my red, black and green on the wall.

840
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's the Latinos flying their Mexican flags and like, nah,

841
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: we who we are?

842
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: You feel me?

843
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: And you're like, when you're an American, you know it's you're

844
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: a Nosavo kid. You know, when you finally discover the

845
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: concept of Azlin, you want to know a little about

846
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: your own heritage. Yeah, you're American, you know what I mean,

847
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: from East Lost. But you want to reclaim your history,

848
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: your heritage, your language.

849
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: You want to learn Aztec dances.

850
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: It's like, so there's that version also, So in that sense,

851
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: it'd be weird to you when you like, you're like yo,

852
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 2: like Yo, we're Jews. You're like, oooh, I'm German. It's

853
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: like nigga, you French like word. These people don't love you,

854
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: like why you identify as that? You know, so there's

855
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: you see that as a lens of Zionism. You so

856
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: those so you have these ideas happening at all around

857
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: the same sort of time and idea with the same

858
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: term zion. So it could be seeing as somebody that's

859
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: like yo, like I want to learn our ancient language,

860
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: I want to learn our practices, I want to do

861
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: the shabbat.

862
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: I want to like I want to bring back.

863
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: It became this umbrella term for just what it meant

864
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: to like reclaim your culture, reclaim your identity, reclaim the

865
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: fullness of what y'all are and then there's the geopolitical idea. Now,

866
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: this geopolitical idea borrowed from all of these particular concepts.

867
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: And if you read the writings of Theodore Herzel and

868
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: a lot of the people involved in this, they were

869
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: all bride eyed about the idea that like, oh, this

870
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: is going to be a colonial takeover of Palestine. You

871
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: have to remove the indigenous population for this to happen,

872
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: because there's no way they're going to give it to me.

873
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: And there were certain ways they tried to do it.

874
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: They tried to do it peacefully. One way they said

875
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: was well, first of all, let's go talk to Britain,

876
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: because remember the British Empire actually drew the partition. The

877
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: British Empire is the one that drew the line between

878
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: Israel and Palestine, because remember it used to belong to them.

879
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: Another idea that the Zionist had was, yo, let's go

880
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: talk to the Turkish empire, right, because remember the Ottomans

881
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: were there before the British. And they was like, okay,

882
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: so if you let us be a government, how about

883
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 2: we pay all the debts? What if we pay off debts?

884
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: They were trying. Matter of fact, Israel the location.

885
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: Wasn't even their first choice because they was like this

886
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: a little too complicated. They thought about going to Africa,

887
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 2: They looked at a couple different places as to where

888
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: to land. This geopolitical idea of Zionism.

889
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling this out of order. Let me back up.

890
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: So the idea that like, it's just a myth that

891
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: the Zionists were not aware of the Palestinian Arab population.

892
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: They were well aware of it. But the question is

893
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: what to do with that information? Because yeah, as Jewish

894
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: as as Hurtzel was, he's also a European, so that

895
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: like he saw the Arabs as barbaric like that they were.

896
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just there's no other way around it.

897
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: They were well aware that you are going to have

898
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: to displace people to build a nation like this, So

899
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: that was not they knew. Right now, again, I'm talking

900
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: about the geopolitical idea of Zionists. But their idea was like,

901
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: surely y'all can see that, like.

902
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: We're not a big empire. We're not.

903
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: We're like, we're just we're just looking for a place

904
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 2: to be, you know, and since we're from here anyway,

905
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: it should this shouldn't be a problem. So yeah, so,

906
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: like I said, Hertzel went to the British, he went

907
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: to the Ottoman Empire, and he asked them, like, yo,

908
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: can we just go settle Keep in mind is like

909
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: European Jews had been moving to tel Aviv for a while.

910
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: You know, they actually formed the city of tel Aviv, right,

911
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: those were Jewish settlers from Israel. That's formed the city

912
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: of tel Aviv this well before Israel became a state, right, so.

913
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 1: They had already been moving.

914
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: Now they were just like, we just need legitimacy, So

915
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: how about we buy it from the Ottomans?

916
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: And you know, the emperor of.

917
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: The Ottoman Empire was like, bro, I can't sell you

918
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: land like it belongs to the people and they fought

919
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: to conquer this place. I'm not finish, just just sell

920
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: it to you. And not only did he not sell

921
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: it to him, he started building policy to make sure

922
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: that they can't just be immigrating and just buying up

923
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 2: Palestinian land.

924
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm not really I'm not really.

925
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: Here for this, and like why would I welcome like

926
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: a large religious minority into my empire?

927
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: You might take it over.

928
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: So, like I said, he was like, I can't look

929
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: they're not just letting us come now, they're restricting our thing,

930
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: our movement. He even, like I said, he went back

931
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: to the British Empire, asked for a spot in East Africa,

932
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: like can we just and the Jews back home? It

933
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 2: was like, nigga, we're going back to Zion. The hell

934
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 2: you talk about East Africa for He's perzels like bro,

935
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: I'm trying right. So eventually they found the city of

936
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: Tel Aviv. They create their own like anybody else, Like

937
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: you created Chinatown. You created like you create your own community.

938
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 2: Then newm niggas got organized. Now the timeline I'm telling

939
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 2: you this, Like I said, Remember he had this first

940
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: idea eighteen ninety seven. So this is all during the

941
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: times between like World War One World War Two. Remember

942
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: Britain didn't take over until nineteen seventeen, because that's why

943
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: he was building with the Ottoman Empire. Dudes once and

944
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: then once they was gone once British, Once Britain take

945
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: took over nineteen seventeen, we're about we're seeing the end

946
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: of World War One, right, You're thinking maybe this was

947
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 2: a new world.

948
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: And then all hell.

949
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: Broke loose with the Nazi Empire and at that point,

950
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 2: once the Nazis things started happening, it was like, oh, nigga,

951
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: we gotta go like this. We can't be playing games.

952
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 2: Were trying to play nice like like that. The Nazi

953
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: thing kicked this mug in a high gear. So now

954
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: by nineteen forty seven, it's like now it's like the

955
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: Jews are like a third of the population in Palestine

956
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: at the time, right, So so now it's getting a

957
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 2: little itchy, you know what I'm saying, Like, now y'all,

958
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: just y'all, just over here, And if you're an Arab nation,

959
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: you like, okay, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

960
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait okay. Why we

961
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: got to lose our home because of stuff Europe did?

962
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: Why are we paying the price? Like I feel you,

963
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like that's terrible what you're

964
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: going through, But like why you gotta come, Why you.

965
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: Gotta take our house?

966
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: Why y'all gotta be like what's going on right now?

967
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: But anyway, since nobody's handing it to them, now we

968
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: got numbers, since nobody's just gonna let us be here,

969
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: the only way to do this is by force. So

970
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: them dudes made a military. Now it's time to scrap

971
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: for it. But as you know, this is still a

972
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: British outpost. Finally, Britain's like, okay, listen, I'm done with

973
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: all this. When were we gonna do? Y'all get that part,

974
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: y'all get that part. They created the partition, but they said,

975
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 2: now y'all figure out what is what and.

976
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: Who run this and all that, like I'm done.

977
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: And there at that moment the birth of the nation

978
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: of Israel, the lines created by Britain after they left

979
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: in Palestine looking around here going man.

980
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: What what just happened? Right now?

981
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: And then, like I said in other you wasn't outside episodes,

982
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: the rest of the Arab nations was like, oh hell no,

983
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: like if they were the war immediately everybody jumped them.

984
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: Egret, everybody jump it was like.

985
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 2: And then and look Israel one like like they just.

986
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: What did y'all do? Like who are you? Why are

987
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: you get to be a nation?

988
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: But that's what happened, and we still scrapping over it.

989
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: Nation states again have more to do with the recognition

990
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: of other nations and who gets to decide who gets

991
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: what power and all this good stuff. I like we

992
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: said borders are made up, they're drawn by conquerors. It's

993
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 2: not don't let that fool you. The concept that has

994
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: people out in the streets is the type of Zionism

995
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: that has to do with the displacement of an indigenous

996
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: population by force because you believe God wanted you here.

997
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: That's one way to look at it. And that, my friend,

998
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: it's just run of the mill imperialism. It's basic. Then

999
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: there's the Zionism that says, like I said, I am

1000
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: preserving my culture. And then there's the Zionism that says,

1001
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: I am longing for a place for us to belong,

1002
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: a Zionism that is much more an idea of a

1003
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: promised land rather than the hostile takeover of a place

1004
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: where people already exist. Spiritual, religious, political, all of that

1005
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: in this one turn. So I am not going to

1006
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: tell you what to think of when you say Zionists,

1007
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: just like I don't know what to tell you what

1008
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: you think of when you say Christian But I tell

1009
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: you what it ain't what the rastas mean.

1010
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: And I tell you what if.

1011
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: You're sitting in Palestine right now, do it even matter

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00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: hood politics?

1013
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