1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion is advised. Hey friends, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: my Fall speaking tour has officially been announced, So head 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: to Amybrunie dot com. That's amybruni dot com to see 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: if I will be appearing near you, either for my 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: ghost story filled lecture series or any of the numerous 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: conventions and strange escapes trips I have coming up. Hope 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: to see you in person soon. In eighteen seventy seven, 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: prospectors made a discovery and a canyon in Arizona's Mule Mountains, 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: just eight miles from the Mexican border. The ground underneath 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: the area, known as Mule Gulch, was rife with copper. 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Just three years later, a town was formed. By nineteen ten, 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: more than twenty five thousand people had arrived in Bisbee 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: seeking out their fortunes. Throughout the two thousand miles of 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: mining tunnels under the town, people mined copper, silver, and gold, 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: and a rare and precious kind of turquoise price today 17 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: called Bisbee blue that was discarded as mining by product. 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: In the early days, the copper Queen mine was Bisbee's 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: most productive mine, producing an unusually high grade of copper ore. 20 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: But it wasn't just the town's most productive mine. It 21 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: was bringing in the highest yields in all of Arizona. 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: In the midst of the mining boom and all the 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: wealth coming from it, the town needed a luxury hotel. 24 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: The Phelps Dodge Corporation, which owned the Copper Queen mine, 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: built the Copper Queen Hotel as a place to host 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: its investors and visiting dignitaries. It opened in nineteen o 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: two to rave reviews. The Bisbee Daily Review called it 28 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: a magnificent hostelry unsurpassed in the territory. With every equipment 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: and excellent management, Bisbee was prosperous for the mine owners, 30 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: but for the miners themselves things were different. They worked difficult, 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: dangerous jobs for minimal pay. The unrest grew so pervasive 32 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: that in nineteen seventeen, two thousand men gathered in protest, 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: only to have most of them rounded up by strike 34 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: breakers and hired guns from the mining company and deported 35 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: to New Mexico. The mining companies were so rich and 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: had so much control over the town that they owned 37 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: the newspapers and were able to squash any news of 38 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: the strike of the miner's treatment. About one thousand men 39 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: were detained for several months by the government for questioning. 40 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: It was one event in a series of conflicts over 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: Bisbee's affluent, but very dangerous years. The Copper Queen still 42 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: stands in Bisbee today, and the hotel remembers the town's 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: dark history, at least the ghosts inside it. To I'm 44 00:02:52,800 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Amy Bruney, and this is haunted road. The newspaper went 45 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: on to describe the newly opened hotel by saying, we 46 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: entered the office after passing an easy flight of stairs, 47 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: to find it beautifully furnished with California redwood and attractively paneled. 48 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: A large mantle over the fireplace is one of the 49 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: finest obtainable. The lady's parlor to the right, occupying a 50 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: very sightly position, is exceptionally fine and tastily arranged in mahogany, 51 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: with rich green silk, plush and satins. Beyond the parlor 52 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: and leading into the office, is a large and commodious 53 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: billiard parlor, substantially arranged with tables and chairs and other equipments. 54 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Beyond this is a buffet, a barber shop, washroom, bathrooms, 55 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: et cetera, all thoroughly furnished and up to date. It's 56 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: worth noting that the newspaper was owned by a close 57 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: friend of an executive of the Phelps Dodge Corporation, but 58 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: the description does sound enticing, especially of the dining room. 59 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: The article continued, saying, the dining room is one of 60 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: the most cheerful and attractive to be seen anywhere. China 61 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: and silverware is all of special design, having a monogram 62 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: of the hotel on every piece. The glassware in the 63 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: buffet is composed of a selection of some very rare 64 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: in some of unusual design. Every piece is cut glass 65 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: with the monogram c Q etched upon it, and many 66 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: designs have never been used in any hotel before. The 67 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: silver wine coolers are of unique design as well. The 68 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Italianate style hotel costs more than seventy five thousand dollars 69 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: to build, twenty five thousand dollars of that on furnishings alone, 70 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: which would have totaled close to two point five million 71 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: dollars today. The hotel originally had seventy two guest rooms, 72 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: with each floor sharing a single bathroom, but was eventually 73 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: remodeled to have private bathrooms and only forty eight rooms 74 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: in the smaller rooms on the higher floors. Some people 75 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: lived in them long term. Despite all of these success 76 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: and prosperity in the town, things were not peace and 77 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: Bisbee miners especially were discontent with their working conditions in 78 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: pay from the mining companies. During World War One, the 79 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: price of copper soared, yet the mine owners did little 80 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: to improve quality of life for their employees. Although union 81 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: activity had been suppressed in the area for years, several 82 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: local mines successfully organized during the war. Sheila Bonnard wrote 83 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: a history of the ensuing events. On June twenty fourth, 84 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen, the Industrial Workers of the World presented the 85 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Bisbee mining companies with a list of demands. These demands 86 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: included improvements to safety and working conditions, such as requiring 87 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: two men on each machine and an end to blasting 88 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: in the mines during shifts. Demands were also made to 89 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: end discrimination against members of labor organizations and the unequal 90 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: treatment of foreign and minority workers. Furthermore, the unions wanted 91 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: a flatweight system to replace sliding scales tied to the 92 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: market price of copper. The mining companies refused, and about 93 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: half of all the miners in Bisbee went on strike 94 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: on July twelfth, nineteen seventeen. The town was rocked by 95 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: what came to be known as the Bisbee Deportation. Early 96 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: that morning, in an effort to quash the strike, roughly 97 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: two thousand sheriffs vigilantes rounded up about two thousand men 98 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: and brought them to Bisbee's baseball field. The majority of 99 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: them were striking miners, but some had nothing at all 100 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: to do with mining in the town. Two men, one 101 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: striker and one mine supervisor, were shot and killed. The 102 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: Phelps Dodge Corporation censored local telegraph lines so no news 103 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: of the action could reach the outside world. In fact, 104 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: by nineteen twenty five, the company owned every daily newspaper 105 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: in the mining districts of southeastern Arizona in an effort 106 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: to censor any negative press about the company. Nearly twelve 107 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: hundred men refused to denounce the strike. They were her 108 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: into box cars with floors covered in cattle manure and 109 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: transported across the border into New Mexico and left there 110 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: for several days. Two days later, US troops arrived and 111 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: detained many of them for several months. As Sheila Bonnard wrote, Meanwhile, 112 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Bisbee authorities mounted guards on all roads into town to 113 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: ensure that no deportees returned and to prevent new troublemakers 114 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: from entering. A kangaroo court was also established to try 115 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: other people deemed disloyal to mining interests. These people also 116 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: faced deportation. President Woodrow Wilson eventually set up a commission 117 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: to investigate the Bisbee deportation, but it was found that 118 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: no federal laws applied, and the state of Arizona refused 119 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: to prosecute the copper companies. Responsible Mining declined in the 120 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: nineteen thirties and forties across the state, but the Copper 121 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: Queen continued to produce for decades longer, until the yields 122 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: came so low that the company finally closed operations in 123 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five. Today, the once thriving mining town has 124 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: only about five thousand residents, and the town is primarily 125 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: a bohemian haven for artists and creatives. The Copper Queen 126 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: is still hosting guests, though in fact it's the longest 127 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: continuously operating hotel in Arizona. When the mines closed, the 128 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: Phelps Dodge Corporation attempted to sell the hotel, only to 129 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: come up short on offers, so the company offered the 130 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: hotel for one dollar to any local who wanted to 131 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: purchase and restore it. An artist named Stephen Hutchinson and 132 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: his wife Marcia purchased the Copper Queen. According to a 133 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: former employee interviewed for an oral history project, it was 134 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: this shift in ownership that changed Bisbee from a dwindling 135 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: mining town to one attracting the more nonconformist elements the 136 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: town has today. By nineteen eighty four, the New York 137 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: Times was reporting on Bisbee's newer residence. A handful of 138 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: artists and writers sprinkled among waves, but one part time 139 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: resident describes as a ragtag collection of terminal sixties hippies, 140 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: new ageists, experimental environmentalists, burned out Vietnam vets, overdone drug cases, 141 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: and others. Many celebrities have stayed at the Copper Queen 142 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: over the years, including Harry Houdini, John Wayne, Michelle Pfeiffer, 143 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: and Julia Roberts. According to legend, John Wayne wance through 144 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: fellow actor Lee Marvin through a window of the hotel. 145 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: While today the hotel has modern amenities, it still feels 146 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: true to its Victorian roots. The lobby has an antique 147 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: reception desk and lush, old fashioned furniture. According to Heather 148 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: McMahon from the Society of Architectural Historians, much of the 149 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: original glazing, interior woodwork, and Italian imported mosaic tile flooring 150 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: in the lobby is intact, and the original tiffany stained 151 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: glass ceiling still remains today. The hotel rooms are also 152 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: decorated with historical details like vintage style wallpaper three five fifteen. 153 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: The Julia Lowell Room has a vintage prostitution license framed 154 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: on the wall, as well as red carpeting, a fringed lampshade, 155 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: and opulent floral headboard. Other specialty themed rooms include those 156 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: dedicated to famous former guests like Harry Houdini and John Wayne, 157 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: said by the hotel to be his favorite specialty suite, 158 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: chosen for its close proximity to the saloon. In addition 159 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: to hotel rooms, it now contains a restaurant, the nineteen 160 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: o two Spirit Room, that still has its original tin 161 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: ceiling and a saloon. Is it any surprise at all 162 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: that this hotel is rumored to be extremely haunted? I 163 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: didn't think so. In fact, the Copper Queen keeps a 164 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: ghost log at the reception desk for guests to record 165 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: any activity they witness during their stay. Over the fifty 166 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: years the log has been available, guests have filled more 167 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: than ten entire books with their accounts. But it's not 168 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: just the hotel. All of Bisbee is said to be 169 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: charged with supernatural energy, which some attribute to large limestone 170 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: deposits under the city believed to fuel paranormal activity. Hotel 171 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: employees report seeing doors and windows open on their own, 172 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: feeling mysterious cold spots, having electronics malfunction for no reason, 173 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: hearing phantom footfalls or people calling their name when no 174 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: one is there, and even seeing full body apparitions. Laurie Doland, 175 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: a front desk clerk working in overnight shift, described an 176 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: experience she had at two a m. As I entered 177 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: the dining room, I saw a strange woman standing against 178 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: one of the columns. I clearly saw that she had 179 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: reddish brown hair, which she wore up in a bun, 180 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: brown eyes, and a healthy pink complexion. She also wore 181 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: a high collared blouse and was about, I guess in 182 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: her mid twenties. Immediately I knew this woman was a ghost. 183 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: I could only see her body from the waist up. 184 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Since then, Doland says she has heard footstock and the 185 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: sound of a skirt swishing when she's alone in the 186 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: dining room. The spirit of a former front desk clerk 187 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: named Howard is also said to linger behind, watching over 188 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: employees to make sure they're doing their jobs. Rose, another 189 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: employee who passed on, is seen sitting in the lobby 190 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on the front door. While there is 191 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: activity all over the hotel. There are some rooms that 192 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: are especially haunted, like Room three fifteen, the Julia Lowell Room, 193 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: named after a woman who is rumored to have taken 194 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: her own life in that room. According to the legend, 195 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties and thirties, Julia was a beautiful 196 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: courtesan who fell in love with one of her regular 197 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: clients who would not leave his wife to be with her. 198 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: There are no records of any suicides in the local papers, 199 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: so it's entirely possible the story is fabricated. But keep 200 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: in mind that during the time frame in question, the 201 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: Phelps Dodge Corporation owned both the hotel and the newspaper, 202 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: so it would have been very easy to keep secret 203 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: any news that cast their holdings in a negative light, 204 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: fabricated or not. Julia's spirit lingers in the hotel today, 205 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: most often appearing to men. She is said to sit 206 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: on the foot of their beds, touching their feet or 207 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: whispering in their ear. When women are sleeping. In Room 208 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: three fifteen, she's also said to pull the covers off 209 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: the bed. According to the Haunted Places, Former chambermaids have 210 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: also reported hearing a soft female voice whispering don't trust 211 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: men while cleaning the vacant guest rooms. In addition to 212 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: her presence in Room three fifteen, she can also be 213 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: seen walking up and down the hotel's main staircase dressed 214 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: in a long black gown. An unnamed spirit is said 215 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: to linger in Room four oh one, whose appearances go 216 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: hand in hand with a phantom smell of cigar smoke. 217 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: He's described as a distinguished looking older man with a 218 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: white beard who wears a black top hat. Some have 219 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: said that when they've spotted him, he's been holding a 220 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: revolver in his hand. Room four twelve is also called 221 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: Billy's Room in honor of the ghost boy believed to 222 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: haunt the room. A portrait of Billy hangs in the 223 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: room today. He's said to be between five and nine 224 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: years old and is believed to have died by drowning, 225 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: though various accounts say it happened either in a hotel 226 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,119 Speaker 1: bathtub or in the San Pedro River nearby, with suspected 227 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: foul play involved and his parents covering up what really happened. 228 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: According to accounts from hotel staff and guests, adults can 229 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: hear him, but he appears wearing nineteen twenty style nickers 230 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: to children. Adults have said they've heard Billy running through 231 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: the hallways, giggling, jumping on furniture, or playing with doorknobs. 232 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: A bartender at the Copper Queen said that whenever running 233 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: water is present, Billy can be heard crying. According to 234 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: America's Most Haunted Hotels, a little girl having dinner at 235 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: the hotel claimed to be playing with a little boy 236 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: under the table, though no one was there. Guests are 237 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: encouraged to leave candy out for Billy to prevent him 238 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: from playing pranks like moving or hiding their belongings. He's 239 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: said to take the candy and leave the wrappers behind. 240 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: Up next, we will be chatting with Jenna Lampanham. Her 241 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: family owns and operates the hotel, and she has stayed 242 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: in virtually every room there. She's had some wild experiences 243 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: and we're going to chat with her all about them. 244 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: That is coming up after the break. I am currently 245 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: joined by Jenna Lampinin, who it sounds like, just kind 246 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: of does everything at the Copper Queen at the moment. 247 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: Is that correct, Jenna? 248 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I go where I'm needed. I help out with 249 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: whatever the other managers might need from me HR stuff, 250 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: groups and event planning. 251 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: Now your mom owns the hotel, correct, yes, ma'am. Yeah, 252 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: so you've had probably years and years of experience visiting there, 253 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: and now you've recently actually made the move to Bisbee. 254 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: I love that. So I actually have only been to 255 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: Bisbee one time, and I want to say it was 256 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: in like two thousand and seven or eight, and it 257 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: was specifically to visit the Copper Queen. I stayed there 258 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: for one night before I was doing an event in 259 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: Tombstone and it was beautiful and I honestly cannot believe 260 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: I haven't been back yet. 261 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, anytime you're welcome to come on out. 262 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: It's got a really great history. We covered that in 263 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: the first half, but we love to talk about the ghosts, 264 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: and so just someone who has spent a long time 265 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: there or you know, and probably had many experiences there, 266 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: what would you say is the most prevalent type of 267 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: paranormal activity that people can experience. 268 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: Yes, So, in my opinion, there's many, many, many spirits here. 269 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: When I was just visiting here, I've obviously spent a 270 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: lot of time in almost every single room in the 271 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: hotel I've stayed in overnight, and every room it's so interesting. 272 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: Every room you go in has a completely different feel, 273 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: a completely different energy, and you can just feel that 274 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: it's different, different spirits, different energies kind of in every 275 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: room and throughout every floor. As you go up throughout 276 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: the Copper Queen, it sort of feels like you get 277 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: more and more disoriented, Like I still sometimes am like, wait, 278 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: which room is that side on? And it's almost like 279 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: being on a ship. You kind of get up there 280 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: and the energy gets thick with them, I mean, in 281 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: my opinion's spirits. So I mean, people, it really depends 282 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: on what room you're in, what how open you are 283 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: to sensing the energies around you. You know, particularly I 284 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: like Billy's room because I think he's a pretty active 285 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: ghost in our hotel. 286 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: And now, which room is Billy's Room. 287 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: Four twelve, so top floor. 288 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: Okay, And what happens in there? What can people expect 289 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: to experience? 290 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 2: Well, my personal experience when I was in there was 291 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: that I kept waking up in the middle of the 292 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: night hearing what sounded like a little kid running back 293 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: and forth like and it sounded to me like it 294 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: was just at the foot of the bed, so he 295 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: would just it didn't sound like it was coming from 296 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: the hallway or ups or you know, there is no 297 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: upstairs right above me, so downstairs or anywhere else. It 298 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: sounded like it was just like you know how kids 299 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: will do that, They'll run back and forth and back 300 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: and forth. And it kept waking me up in the 301 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: middle of the night. And on the third night, I 302 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: whipped out of bed and I went out the door 303 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: because I'm like, this has got to be a kid 304 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: running in the hallway, even though it sounded like it 305 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: was in the room. And yeah, there was no kid there. 306 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: There was no one staying on that floor at all. 307 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that could catch some people off guard. 308 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think he's harmless. What I started 309 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: doing is leaving candy on There's two beds in that room, 310 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: so I would leave candy all the way on the 311 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: other side of the room, kind of on the other 312 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: side of the other bed over there, and the running 313 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: noise is stopped, but the candies would be slightly pulled 314 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: under the bed. 315 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: I always wonder what happens when we do that, because 316 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: I've done that before, and I'm like, is the ghosts 317 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: upset with me because I'm giving it candy and it 318 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: can't have the candy? Or can it have the candy? 319 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Or is it like ghosts cbs where like they can 320 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: smell the candy. I have so many questions. 321 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: I guess it probably depends on the spirit, would be 322 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 2: my opinion on that, you know, because maybe, yeah, I 323 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: think it would depend on the spirit. Were they all 324 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: already angry in the first place? Are they more just 325 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: a playful spirit like I think Billy is. 326 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I love that I see. I feel 327 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: like sometimes hotels, just because having investigated so many of 328 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: them at this point, I sometimes I feel like, and 329 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this on the show before, 330 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: how they kind of become a place not just for 331 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: people who died there, but people who really enjoyed visiting 332 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: it in life for whatever reason. Absolutely, And I kind 333 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: of get that vibe from the Copper Queen. Do you 334 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: feel like those are thereist those kind Absolutely? 335 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: Most recently I was talking about that with we had 336 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: Patty Nagrie come up to the hotel. We had her 337 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: here just a few weeks ago, and me and her 338 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: got to do some ghost hunting and we were talking 339 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: about one of the rooms. There was a very strange 340 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: energy in and we were communicating with the spirit in 341 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: that room. This was on the third floor, and it 342 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 2: wasn't a that died there, It was just a spirit 343 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: that had good times there. I mean, this hotel is 344 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: so old. I think a lot of people have come 345 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: through and enjoyed themselves here and maybe even if they 346 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: didn't pass on the premise, have come back from a 347 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: more permanent stay. 348 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: Right, And I do feel like I think, just coming 349 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: from the human perspective, you know, why wouldn't we want 350 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: to revisit places where we had wonderful memories? And I mean, 351 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: if we had that ability, if I could close my 352 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: eyes right now and fly off somewhere and relive or 353 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: be somewhere that made me really happy. I would absolutely 354 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: do that, So it makes sense. How do your guests feel. 355 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: Do most people that come do they know that they're 356 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: staying at a haunted hotel? Or does this ever catch 357 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: people off guard? 358 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: I think most people know. I think what catches people 359 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: off guard sometimes sometimes it excites them. Sometimes it catches 360 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: them a little bit off guard is when they ask, so, 361 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: is it haunted? And I tell them absolutely yes. Sometimes 362 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: they're a little unsure or or oh no, or you know, 363 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: or they don't want to really be in a haunted room, 364 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: or they ask me, well, which room is not the 365 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: least haunted, and I'm like, I can't really help you. 366 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: The whole hotel is a little haunted, you know, but 367 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean in a bad way. That doesn't mean 368 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: that spirits are going to hurt or scare you or 369 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: anything like that, you know. 370 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Right, But some people are just very scared of the 371 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: idea of ghosts. And I don't you know, I think, 372 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, like you were saying that hotel, I think 373 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: that it is kind of an energy throughout the entire building. 374 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: I think I'm sure you know, there's probably certain rooms 375 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: that might be more haunted for whatever reasons. But like 376 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: you were just saying, I don't think that necessarily gets 377 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: you out of having an experience for sure. 378 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's no promises with that, because I think 379 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: that a lot of the ghosts, the spirits and energies, 380 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: you know, travel around through halls in different rooms. But 381 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: there are definitely a few rooms that i'd say are 382 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: like occupied. 383 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: You know, well, let's talk about those. What would you like? 384 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: What rooms do you think are maybe the most active 385 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: in what happens in them? 386 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: So I'd say, again, Billy's is probably the most active 387 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 2: in my own experience. I always sends him whenever I'm 388 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: in that room. And when we also did a seance 389 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: recently with Patty and Agree, and we were communicating with 390 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: the spirits of the hotel, and we found out that 391 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: Billy doesn't really come downstairs. You know, they say that 392 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: only children can really see Billy. So a lot of 393 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: children say they see him jumping on the couch and 394 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: the lobby. But my guess at that would be because 395 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: I don't think Billy comes downstairs. I only ever sends 396 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: him right outside of that room or in that room upstairs, 397 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: And I think that there's actually two children ghosts in 398 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: our dining room downstairs, and I think they run around 399 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: the lobby and jump on the couch. And these two 400 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 2: have actually been captured on camera. And it's the reason 401 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: that our dining room is named nineteen oh two the 402 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: Spirit Room. 403 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: Oh, how interesting? And so what's the connection that they 404 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: just they call it nineteen oh two the Spirit room 405 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: because it's haunted or was there something specific? 406 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, because the spirits are haunting that the two 407 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: that we have on in that picture there, and it's 408 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: really clear. You can see it really looks clearly looks 409 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: like two children ghost ghosts in the background of the picture. 410 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 1: Oh, that's fascinating. I'll have to see if I can 411 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: find it online and link it to people so they 412 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: can check it out. 413 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll see if I can send it to you too. 414 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: I think that's great that you name your restaurant after 415 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: your ghosts. 416 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: It's I mean, they were probably here first. 417 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: So absolutely. Okay, So what are some other rooms? I 418 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: feel like I thought two eighteen or something, but I 419 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: could be misremembering. Are there other rooms? 420 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: There's Julia Loll which is three point fifteen. 421 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, that might be it. 422 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: Jually A Lull was a prostitute in sometime in the 423 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: early nineteen hundreds, and her father was actually the first 424 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: manager here and he knew she was running her business 425 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: as an escort, and he just wanted her to be 426 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: close by him. So he had her setup in a 427 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: room which was which is still near a back exit 428 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: of the hotel, so that her johns could come and go. 429 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: And the story goes that she fell in love with 430 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: one of them who was married, and he didn't reciprocate 431 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: that love and didn't want to leave his wife, and 432 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: she hung herself in the rafters right outside of the room. 433 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Oh okay, And so I can imagine that room has 434 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: some stories to tell. What happens when people stay in 435 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: that room. 436 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: Well, people will say, men will say they feel very 437 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: very easy in that room. Women sleep just fine. Men 438 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: will say that their feet are tickled or scratched or 439 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: pulled in the middle of the night. I know people 440 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: have had a lot of experiences in that room. I've 441 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: only been slept in that room one time, and I 442 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: felt very safe and protected. And then again when Patty 443 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: was here, she was saying that Julia Lull had taken 444 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 2: some kind of liking to me and follows me around 445 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: here at the hotel when I'm working. 446 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh, that's great, she's seeing another child of the proprietor. Now, 447 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: would you say that most of the spirits there are 448 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: intelligent or do you think there are some that are 449 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: just kind of more residual in nature, just kind of 450 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: going about their business. 451 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it definitely varies from both of the 452 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 2: things you just said, Like it depends like there's some 453 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: that are more just like residual energies, and it's really 454 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: it's really wild to walk throughout the floors and kind 455 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: of sense that, like that's that same disorienting feeling because 456 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: there's just so many energies and so many memories and 457 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: kind of dollar spirits. But then there's also the stronger 458 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: ones like Billy, like Julia, and then there's another spirit 459 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: two that people don't talk about as much too. One 460 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: is a They call him the no Name Man, or 461 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: he might also be the smoking Man. We're not really sure, 462 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: but it's it's the unnamed room, which is four oh one, 463 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 2: which almost might be more haunted than Billy's room. 464 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like a more ominous type haunting. Is 465 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: that is that true? Like what happens. Is it just 466 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: a little more I don't want to say negative, but 467 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: just maybe a little more dark or heavy. 468 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: It's kind of creepy feeling. Like most recently people have 469 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: told me they've had they had the same exact experience 470 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: that I had when I was in that room, And 471 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: it kind of felt validating to me because they told 472 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: me right away that they felt uncomfortable sometimes using the shower. 473 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: They felt a little watched over, nothing like evil or harmful, 474 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: but just like there was something keeping an eye on them, 475 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: and the door was creaking open and unlocking and opening 476 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: by itself, not the bathroom door, but the main door. 477 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: I meant those times that you don't want to feel 478 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: like spirits are watching you, it's when you're like in 479 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: the bathroom right, showering and whatnot. I remember, I think, 480 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: I there are years ago. I don't remember that psychic 481 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: Sylvia Brown, she was the next level back in the 482 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: eighties or whatever. Again, my mom was well if you 483 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: google her, she had very big fingernails. She's very famous. 484 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: She did a lot of stuff on like Montell Williams 485 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: and whatnot. But she used to always say that spirits 486 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: were incapable of watching you shower or do your business 487 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: in the bathroom. And I believed her because I was 488 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: like nine. But now I'm thinking, why is there just 489 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: some sort of like spiritual entery, Like I mean, there 490 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: might be you. 491 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: Can kind of try to like block that out, like 492 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: exactly energy away, but I don't know about that being 493 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: from their side, them not being able to I'm not 494 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: sure why that would be possible. 495 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I just thought it was 496 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: so funny later on in life, how I just took 497 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: her word for gospel. I was like, yeah, they can't 498 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: they can't see you. 499 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: They're like, wait a minute, let me think about this. 500 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: They can't watch you. That's too funny. But yeah, I 501 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: mean that's when you feel very vulnerable. So I could 502 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: see why that would be creepy to people. So note 503 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: that folks wanting to stay in room four oh one, 504 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: the no Name room, Peeping Tom ghost potentially yes. And 505 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: now do people ever witness apparitions in the hotel? 506 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've seen the more out of the 507 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: corner of my eye. I know other people have seen things. 508 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: I know children see spirits a lot around here, and 509 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: then their parents will come and write it down. We 510 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: have ghost logs behind the front desk that anyone at 511 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: all can either look at before their stay or also 512 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: after their stay, right down their own experiences in And 513 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: it's just like a bunch of worn old books with 514 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: just thousands of stories in it of people what they've seen, 515 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: what they've experienced. 516 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: I love that now. I think I've read somewhere those 517 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: went back decades? Is that true? Yes, that's amazing. A 518 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: lot of hotels weren't really doing that type of thing 519 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: that far back, so I mean that must be just 520 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: really valuable information to go through. Like I mean, I 521 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: can't imagine like reading experiences that are happening now, but 522 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: then flipping back in books from like the sixties and 523 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: seventies and seeing that people were reporting the same thing. 524 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah exactly, and then seeing 525 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: that people are seeing or sensing or experiencing such similar 526 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: things in sometimes like the same room or in the 527 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: same way. And it's so interesting. And I always recommend 528 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: the books to people if they're just waiting in the 529 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: lobby or want to check them out. I mean, I 530 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: find them so interesting. 531 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would love to flip through those. Now, 532 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: what about shadow figures. Are they something that people see 533 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: regularly in the hotel. 534 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm sure they have, and I'm sure 535 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: they're in the logs. I know that I have. I 536 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: know that there's I don't know if we could consider 537 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: him a shadow figure or really what it is. But 538 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: there is a back part of the hotel that is 539 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: kind of like a small alleyway, and one side of 540 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: it is like the back of the building, and then 541 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: there's like a narrow alleyway along there that has kind 542 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: of a cave wall, and it's very, very, very creepy, 543 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: and I always got so creeped out anytime I went 544 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: back there, and I kind of pushed myself to walk 545 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: through that cave alleyway. It goes back pretty far and 546 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: then rounds the corner a little bit, so you can't 547 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: even see the exit, and it's very narrow and cobwebby 548 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: and dimly lit and creepy all around, and I always 549 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: got maybe I just got really spooped and so I 550 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: was kind of hyping it up to myself, But I 551 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: always got an evil feeling back there, And that's the 552 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: only time I've sensed any type of evil or anything 553 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: like that around the hotel at all is that back area, 554 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: and I also saw it looked like I also would 555 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: get that same feeling in the back of the kitchen area, 556 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: and I would go down there sometimes to get some 557 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: waters something, and there would be no one around, you know, 558 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: middle of the night kind of thing, when I was 559 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: staying in the hotel years ago, and I would always 560 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: get that feeling from the very back of the kitchen, 561 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: and it always I saw twice actually what seemed like 562 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: a dark figure darting, but I only saw his back 563 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: leg and it was very clearly like a back leg 564 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: like you know when you just look up and you 565 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: see like the back legs like of someone that just 566 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: ran into the back part of the kitchen. And then 567 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: I did discover after walking through that back alley that 568 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: the back of the kitchen is actually connected to that 569 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: back alley through like a large vent, So it might 570 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: be the same energy that I That would make sense 571 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: why I was sensing it in the back of the 572 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: kitchen and also sensing it in that back alley because 573 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: they're actually connected in the very back that's interesting. 574 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: I was actually going to ask you if they were 575 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: connected in some way, like if there was a door 576 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: or something. 577 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize it first, and then I went 578 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: that all the way all the way back there because 579 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: I was always too scared to go all the way back. 580 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: And there's a big vent there connecting them. Hmmm. 581 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: Interesting. I mean, who knows what happened in that alley 582 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: right back in the day. It probably saw some things, 583 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: I know. 584 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so we actually communicated with that spirit at 585 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: the seance, and his name is sal He says that 586 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: he was poisoned and that he's he's not an evil spirit, 587 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: he's just he's upset and you know, rightfully, so he 588 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: was poisoned. I'm not sure if he knows who or what, 589 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: but he's kind of eternally lurking back there looking for 590 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 2: the poison that killed him, or you know, looking for answers, 591 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: and and that's what we discovered when we communicated with 592 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 2: him at the seance. 593 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: Well, that's great that you're like having full communication with them, 594 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's really valuable. That was gonna be my 595 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: next question, like who were your most chatty ghosts and 596 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: what do they seem to to want to let you 597 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: know about? 598 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: So, yeah, Saal was actually probably one of the most 599 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: chatty ghosts during that because the sales was held in 600 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: the dining room, which is, you know, right next to 601 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 2: the kitchen and all that. And I was trying to 602 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: express that like I sent something evil back there and 603 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: it's not Maybe it's not sal Maybe it's not that spirit. 604 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: And Patty suggested that she felt like there might be 605 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: a presence of a portal back there and maybe and 606 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 2: with a portal, sometimes more evil things slipped through or 607 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: show themselves in that area. And I'm like, Okay, that 608 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: would make a lot of sense why that area feels 609 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: so heavy and disorienting. Yeah. 610 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: And I also find that some of these you know, 611 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: locations that become you know, sort of investigated a lot 612 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: or talked about a lot as far as ghosts and hauntings, 613 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: they almost act as a bit of a beacon to 614 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: spirits in the area because they know people are there 615 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: actively look to talk to them. It's almost, you know, 616 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: they're just kind of like, I mean, I imagine anyway, this 617 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: is just me and my but I feel like, you know, 618 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: I've just yeah, especially with the hotel, but I've met 619 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: so many spirits over the years and my investigations that 620 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: aren't from anywhere near where I'm investigating, but they kind 621 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: of expressed this. You know, no one was paying attention 622 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: to us, but we could we could see ghosts getting 623 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 1: interaction here, and so that could be it too. Now 624 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: have there been Are there any ghosts there you feel 625 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: like might have any sort of unfinished business other than 626 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: poisoned sou that might need something or want help? Or 627 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: do you feel like they're all pretty at ease and 628 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: okay with being there? 629 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 2: Well? I did wonder about that, but I think they're 630 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: here by choice. I mean we did communicate with them 631 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 2: throughout the ghost hunt. I would ask every room we 632 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: went into and every spirit that reached out to us, 633 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 2: I would say, can I ask a question? And I 634 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: would ask, are you trapped here? Is there anything I 635 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: can do for you? Like? I love this hotel, This 636 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: is my family's hotel. I love the spirits here, I 637 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: love the people here. You know, this hotel is my life, 638 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: And so I would ask them, what is there anything 639 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: I can do for you? And they all said that 640 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: they're here by choice, and we didn't sense any type 641 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 2: of you know, struggle with that. I think some of 642 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: them are pained by what was going on in their 643 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 2: previous lives or their deaths, but I don't think there's 644 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: any spirits that are trapped here. 645 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, are there any any rumors about the hotel 646 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: or supposed ghost stories or history that many people believe 647 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: to be true? But you know it's not or like 648 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: anything false out there that you would love to correct, 649 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: you know. 650 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot like. 651 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes those urban legends go around and you're like, nah, 652 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: it's not true. 653 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 2: Especially in a yes. Yeah, I mean the one that 654 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 2: I hear like a lot is that Billy is downstairs 655 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: jumping on the couch. But I already said, like, I 656 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: think that. I don't think Billy comes down here at all. 657 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 2: I think that's the children ghost in the in the 658 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 2: dining room. Maybe the smoking Man. I'm not sure if 659 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: the smoking I don't think I've really seen the smoking man. 660 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: A lot of people say they see him around the 661 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 2: third floor wearing a top hat and that it smells 662 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 2: like cigars. I think they say the third floor, but 663 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: I haven't really had any run ins with him, although 664 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 2: he may be the same ghost that haunts for a 665 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: one so I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that one. 666 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: Now, So if people do want to come visit the 667 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: Copper queen. I mean, I don't. Do you guys offer 668 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: ghost tours investigations? Do they just stay? Do they eat 669 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: an the Delicious restaurant? Like what do you recommend? 670 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I yeah, we have our dining room, we 671 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 2: have our saloon. Anyone is welcome to come in and 672 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 2: take a look on all the floors and go on 673 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: our second floor landing. We have a beautiful piano you 674 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 2: can sit down and play. We have some game tables 675 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 2: up there. We also have Lavender jeep tours in town. 676 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: We have ghost tours that are available. You can ask 677 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: about them at the front desk, not through us particularly, 678 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 2: although I will say I'm actually working on something right 679 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 2: now to bring back ghost tours within the hotel. We 680 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: used to do it a long time ago, and I'm 681 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 2: working on bringing that back. So pretty soon here we'll 682 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 2: probably be having more like insider ghost tours, you know 683 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 2: where I have a lot of stories. I'm sure if 684 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: you really get me going, I would just go on 685 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 2: and on about because, like I said, I've stayed in 686 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: almost every room, you know, so I realized that through 687 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: the last ghost hunt with Patty Nagree that I'm like, 688 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: I have endless stories about this place. I think we 689 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: should bring this back. 690 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to. I love that town. It's 691 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: so fun. It seems kind of artsy and quirky, and 692 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: I love that about it. And the hotel's beautiful and haunted, 693 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: which is what we all love. So I highly recommend 694 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: a visit to anyone out there listening. And Jenna, you've 695 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: been lovely. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. 696 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I just wanted to say one more 697 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 2: thing too. We are also doing a lot of events 698 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 2: coming up. Stay tuned on Instagram and on our website 699 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: and Facebook, and keep an eye out for all the 700 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: cool events coming up that we're going to be having. 701 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: I love that well, thank you again, super appreciate it, 702 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: and hopefully I will it won't be fifteen years before 703 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,479 Speaker 1: I visit next time. 704 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, please come out anytime, and maybe I'll take you 705 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 2: on on a little ghost hunt and I'll probably remember 706 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: a lot more stories than too. 707 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: The Copper Queen is one of the most famous haunts 708 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: in Arizona, and I think it's the perfect example of 709 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: a hotel that continues to be a beacon for guests, 710 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: living and otherwise. So many stories have emerged from this 711 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 1: ornate beauty in the middle of a mountain mining town. 712 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: Some beautiful, some terrifying, but it certainly sounds like something 713 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: you should experience for yourself. Who knows, maybe you'll become 714 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: part of its story too. I'm Amy Bruney and this 715 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: was Haunted Road. Haunted Road is hosted and written by 716 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: me Amy Bruney, with additional research by Taylor Haggerdorn and 717 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: Cassandra de Alba. This show is edited and produced by 718 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: rema El Kali, with supervising producer Josh Thain and executive 719 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: producers Aaron Mankey, Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. 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