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Speaker 1: Wednesday Morning Podcast. You are gonna love this podcast. Chris Bosh,

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Speaker 1: one of the smartest pro athletes of my life, has

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Speaker 1: a new book out called Letters to a Young Athlete.

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Speaker 1: He talks about everything. This book is so freaking smart

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Speaker 1: and when you get an opportunity to deal with one,

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Speaker 1: forget smart comparing to athletes, he's smart compared to the public.

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Speaker 1: Chris goes deep on so many topics and it'll just

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Speaker 1: be a fascinating listen. He'll join us in five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with this. I get a lot of

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Speaker 1: pushback on Tebow, and one of the criticisms I hear

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Speaker 1: is Colin Tim Tebow was offered an opportunity to play

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Speaker 1: tight end for Jacksonville. Of course he should accept it. Now,

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Speaker 1: what you're telling me is that every time you get

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Speaker 1: an offer in life, you should accept it. Let me

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Speaker 1: ask anybody listening, do you accept every offer. If the

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Speaker 1: answer is yes, you don't get a lot of offers

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Speaker 1: or have a lot of options in life. Do you

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Speaker 1: know how many commercials on the volume I will turn

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Speaker 1: down cannabis commercials. I could take them. Money goes into

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Speaker 1: my pocket. There's nothing my corporate partners Fox or iHeart

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Speaker 1: could do, but I turn it down despite really good money,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think it's good for my relationship with

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Speaker 1: big corporate sponsors doing cannabis commercials or other commercials of

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Speaker 1: that ilk the idea that I have to take every

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Speaker 1: dollar offered. Do you know how many companies are willing

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Speaker 1: to pay for people in the public eye to do

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Speaker 1: tweets and Instagram? I'm not the only talk show host

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Speaker 1: that turns down stuff. Don't you turn down offers in

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Speaker 1: your life? Do you take every offer? Tim Tebow, eight

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Speaker 1: years out of the league, knows that Jacksonville going forward

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Speaker 1: will be based on the success of Trevor Lawrence, a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. Tim's not naive. He knows how hard it

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Speaker 1: is to be a rookie quarterback. The focus and attention

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Speaker 1: you need. Tebow also knows Jacksonville is the number one

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow market in America. Tim Tebow doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: self awareness to go, you know what, I'm a long

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Speaker 1: shot to make the team. This is probably not great

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Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback. He doesn't need the distractions. Tim

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Speaker 1: Tebow is a net worth over ten million. I would

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Speaker 1: guess close to twenty five million. He doesn't need a

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Speaker 1: third or fourth string tight end salary. And don't tell

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Speaker 1: me he doesn't have the self awareness to know he'd

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Speaker 1: be a distraction. Tim isn't naive. Tebow Mania is a brand.

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Speaker 1: He chose the New York Jets over Jacksonville to elevate

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Speaker 1: his brand. Look it up. The idea that Tim has

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Speaker 1: to take this job because he was offered is selfish.

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Speaker 1: And if you do accept every offer in your life,

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Speaker 1: it only tells me you don't get many offers and

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Speaker 1: you don't have other options. So I don't buy this

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Speaker 1: tebo naivete bullshit for a second. Tim's about Tim, he

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Speaker 1: always has been. Tebow Mania is a brand. It's lucrative,

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Speaker 1: and it jacks up his speaking engagement price the more

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Speaker 1: he's in the news. Now let's get to Chris Bosh. So, Chris,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you should be so proud of the

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Speaker 1: book it's so smart. It's so smart, it's so thoughtful.

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Speaker 1: And I and I told my staff, I said, there

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Speaker 1: may not be five guys in pro sports I respect

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Speaker 1: more than you. And let me start with this. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that you were a number. You were a top

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Speaker 1: high school player, a top college player, an all star

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Speaker 1: of playing with Lebron is especially Biggs. He don't want

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Speaker 1: you near the basket, Get outside, brother. So you had

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Speaker 1: to relinquish a big forget statistically a big part of

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Speaker 1: who you were. And you write about this in the

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Speaker 1: book Take me to the internal struggle. Initially, you'd been

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Speaker 1: the leading scorer on every team since you were eight.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't there a moment when you're driving home in

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Speaker 1: Miami thinking this is a big left Emotionally, I got

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Speaker 1: a change. Yeah, I mean you have those moments like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, what have I done? I tell,

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Speaker 1: I tell people, And I have to remind people of

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Speaker 1: this quite a bit. Growing up coming from Dallas, having

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Speaker 1: There was a certain intensity that my coaches and my

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Speaker 1: But if we're talking about the people with the accolades

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Speaker 1: Mike obviously right, he was an assassin. That's how I

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Speaker 1: not knowing that there's more to the game that you

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, Lebron and Dwayne are pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Let's let them do what they do. I'll be the

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Speaker 1: one to kind of try to figure this whole Rover

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Speaker 1: it definitely was an internal struggle, just really trying to

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Speaker 1: we in the media, you got to win your first

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't remember, Dwayne pulled his hamming

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Speaker 1: course that first year wasn't successful, but in that you know,

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Speaker 1: And that's what we started working on. But most importantly,

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Speaker 1: one of the points I try to get across in

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Speaker 1: my book. You want it to be of all about you.

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Speaker 1: as so make sure you have a lot, you know,

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Speaker 1: to be able to make that transition. I've said before,

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Speaker 1: I think the Miami Heat it was the smartest basketball

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Speaker 1: day on my show. The game has never had more talent,

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Speaker 1: Because we're now kids don't go from powerful high school programs, cultures,

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Speaker 1: the pros be a leader. Well, you got to see

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Speaker 1: it to be it how do you learn leadership? And

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Speaker 1: especially now, it's even more important with now that we're

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Speaker 1: there's a difference between ego and confidence, and when you

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Speaker 1: Like you know, just like you were saying, it's crazy

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Speaker 1: we we got after it. Um Eric Sposture, he he

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Speaker 1: We need to talk about that more. Yeah, it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: I do think, um, you know, dynasties are great for

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Speaker 1: the build. They're your our guys. You would have been

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Speaker 1: like hired gun I'm here in Did it feel different?

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Speaker 1: Though it wasn't and your basketball life had never been

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Speaker 1: Was it harder? Did it mean less? Did it go?

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Speaker 1: like that was it? You know, that was it. I'm

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Speaker 1: didn't know what was happening, but I knew that the

425
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: unexpected was coming. And then I'm somewhere that I've never

426
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: been before. And you know, it's it's funny. It's like

427
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm the dude, like, hey, guys, I'm from Canada. Shut up.

428
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: You know as how I felt. You know. You also

429
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: say in the book, Jerry Seinfeld has a quote, find

430
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: the torture you're comfortable with and you'll do well. Yeah,

431
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: it's a great quote. And what was your What was

432
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: the torture you could tolerate in the NBA Getting back

433
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: in the gym, working on my craft, watching film, doing

434
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: it again, way, working on my body, another film session.

435
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: Hold up, let's stay longer. That was that was my torture.

436
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: I was comfortable with getting into that ice tub when

437
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: I just want to go home. I was like one

438
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: of the mental exercises I used to play with myself.

439
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: I didn't do it every day. I tried to when

440
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: we were home, but every day after practice, I said,

441
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: all right, everybody's you know, damn near gone. I'm gonna

442
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: get in the cold to for fifteen minutes every day

443
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: after practice work on my mental my mental because I

444
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: do not want to do this. I want to go

445
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: home and have a club sandwich, you know, by the beach,

446
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: and it is half an hour away if I leave

447
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: right now. And so those were those are the games

448
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: that I would play with myself to to to you know,

449
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: give myself some mental fortitude, you know. But I was

450
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: always very aware of that and always trying to push

451
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: the boundaries for myself to get better. Um. As somebody

452
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: that was part of a dynasty, what did you make

453
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: of the Last Dance with Michael Jordan? What were your

454
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: takeaways watching that? Because I know some of that you

455
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: could watch and relate to, and I'm guessing as you

456
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: watch that, one of your takeaway was one of your

457
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: takeaways was just like our dynasty, A lot of that

458
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: ship don't get out when it's having him right all right, man,

459
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: that that thing gave me the chills. Man, just watching

460
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: that and being able to see, to me, it showed

461
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: if you're really, you know, every person trying to do

462
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: something great, they need to study that. I think I

463
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: say it in the book too. They need to study

464
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: that like film. They need to look at that and

465
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: dissect and listen to every word they say. Because you know,

466
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: even if you weren't born in nine or weren't you know,

467
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: don't remember ninety eight, everybody expected the Bulls to win,

468
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: right Nobody. It's like, oh yeah, they're the best team ever,

469
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: but you still most people wanted them to lose. So

470
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: this was them going through that whole process of that season.

471
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: But the best part was going back and telling those

472
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: backstories about who these characters were in this story. And

473
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day, Scottie Pippen isn't playing,

474
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: and Mike is trying to lead the team with Dennis,

475
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: and then Phil's trying to figure it out, and Jerry

476
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: Kraus is just man, they're just having a rough time.

477
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean. It was just

478
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: it just shows that there will be hurdles and obstacles

479
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: to get over no matter who you are, you know,

480
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: and this is how they did it, and you can

481
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: take it for yourself and apply it in the way

482
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: you see fit I took a lot from him, man.

483
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: You know Spolstra. Initially there was a sense, who's this boy?

484
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Wonder who the hell's Eric Spolstra? This is way too much. Yeah,

485
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: take take me to an early struggle with Spolstra. I

486
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: can remember at one point Lebron was mad at and

487
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: walked by him and the media was like he chest

488
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: pumped him. Oh yeah, yo, that was early. That was

489
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: That was in Dallas. That was kind of one of

490
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: our turning points because you know, Duwayne had a passionate

491
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: speech in the back and you know, I think a

492
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: lot of people know about that. Yeah, they had the

493
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: thing where you know, yeah, it's like, oh they bumped them.

494
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: You see that, and it's like, Okay, I bumped into whoever.

495
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: We are not even thinking about it then. Like I

496
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: want to say, within the first two weeks, within the

497
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: first two weeks of us being together, people were calling

498
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: for pat Riley to coach down and come down and

499
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: coach like it maybe one like so for exposed thing.

500
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: He's like, I mean at home, people were saying, pat Riley,

501
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, like those are things he had to deal

502
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: We were all dealing with things that you know, you

503
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: have to you have to deal with. But that's a

504
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: part of it, right, You have to be thrown in

505
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: the deep end and you either sink or swim. And

506
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, good thing for Spo that he was so

507
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: into his craft that he could can just continue working,

508
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: come back to the office, get better, figure out a

509
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: way to to try and win more games and hopefully

510
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: win a championship. When when you're playing with Lebron and

511
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: he was in his peak, Lebron is and you talk

512
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: about this in the book, how Chris Paul's a little

513
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: bit of an air traffic controller. Were there ever a

514
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: moment that you fired back at Lebron, d Wade or

515
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: Spolstra and you got in his kitchen? Happened more than

516
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, oh trust me, Oh yeah, of course. Um.

517
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: I talked about one instance with spou in the book.

518
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, it happens. It's sports, you know, and the

519
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: emotions are always high and everybody wants to win. But

520
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that we always remembered about

521
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: each other is that you know, it comes from a

522
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: good place and you want to win. I was always

523
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: the person to be like, Okay, if if I can

524
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: dish it, I could take it. I had to take

525
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: many many lashings from you, Donnis hasling if I was

526
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: not playing up to part, and you know, if I

527
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: got it, what could I say? He's right. I respect

528
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: his opinion. He's a great player, he's my teammate and

529
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: my brother. I gotta take heat to it. And anytime

530
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: we did that, that's what it was about. So you know, yeah,

531
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: there were a you know, there were a few a

532
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: few times, but sometimes that's a part of it. That's

533
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: that's the fun. That's I'd rather get it out than

534
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, be yelling and screaming at each other. You know,

535
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: you saw how we did with Rio every day, right,

536
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, but after the game, come on, let's go

537
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: get something to eat, Let's go hang out and have

538
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: some fun. You know, That's how it always was. You know,

539
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: it's Chris, what's interesting about your book. You're teaching basketball

540
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: and giving life experiences. And one of my I loved

541
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: the NBA and I've loved it since I was a kid.

542
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: But one of my criticisms has been that whereas the

543
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: league's never had more talent. The basketball culture in America

544
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: has become spot talent, pay talent without the concern like

545
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: football or baseball, of a minor league system to help

546
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: the kid mature. And I look around the NBA right

547
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: now and I see all this talent. But are you

548
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: ever concerned that the league's getting younger? We're asking nineteen

549
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: year olds. They can't even have a beer in the

550
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Ritz Carlton their stand at Do you worry that the

551
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: basketball culture now doesn't talk about leadership, doesn't talk about communication.

552
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: It's all about c player pay player, will figure out

553
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: the rest later. Like I think that's an issue in

554
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, no, it is an issue. And it's

555
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: funny you raise that point, and I think you know,

556
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: of course there was going to be a tipping point

557
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: in that regard, just because of the explosion of everyone

558
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: being a business and everyone being a brand and an

559
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: identity and having social media and having a platform. So

560
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: there has to be some reshuffling of the car so

561
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: to speak. Right, I think we have to continue. And

562
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons I wrote this book too,

563
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: is because you know, the team the game is the

564
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: game's team. Sports is team sports and although it's so polarizing,

565
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: and we've seen bron and Kobe and Shack and and

566
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: and MJ and the huge personalities that could come uh

567
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: from from the league, right and then you know, of

568
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: course you get an arms race where everybody wants to

569
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: be a part of it. And I've been a part

570
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: of I'm a part of the AU generation. I played,

571
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, with teammates off from all over Texas in

572
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 1: the Southwest, you know, just putting the best team together.

573
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, it has reached a tipping point

574
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: kind of jumping on what you're saying, and has reached

575
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: a tipping point where we have to go back into

576
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: teaching the game, because, yeah, although our talent is accelerated,

577
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: not everybody is skilled enough, and not everyone has the

578
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: right development in their minds and in their games to

579
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: be able to go out there. I mean, just you

580
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: know Wiseman, for instance, how many games that he played

581
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: at Memphis. I was telling people's son, I was like, yo,

582
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: at least I was one and done, but at least

583
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: I got thirty one games of experience, you know, in

584
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: a whole two semesters to be whatever it was I

585
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: was as a student athlete, for him, he went straight

586
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: to the show. And so there is going to be

587
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: a learning curve. So there has to be something to

588
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: where we're developing our youth, you know, not only in

589
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: basketball and skills, but to be able to handle it

590
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: because yeah, there's going to be media and there's going

591
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: to be questions and accountability, you know, in public. You're

592
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: going to have to get use of this if this

593
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: is what you want to do. You idolize Kevin Garnett

594
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: and then you played him and found out he was

595
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: a massive trash talker. Is it weird, Chris in the

596
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: NBA when you face your idols like a Kevin Garnett

597
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: and they're different than you thought they'd be. Yeah, it's weird.

598
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: It's weird. Especially win Its aversarial, you know that. That

599
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: threw me for a loop a little bit. I was surprised,

600
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: but I wasn't surprised because I, you know, played against

601
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, players like that my entire career up until

602
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: that point. It's just like, yeah, it's just so happens

603
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: to be your hero And yeah, he's talking to you

604
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: right now. He's just talking to you, you know, So,

605
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for me, it was all about

606
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: the competitive spirit and whatever it takes for me to

607
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: be done with that said, I'm not a trash talker.

608
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: My trash talking is through my play. It's nothing gonna

609
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: get me as hype as I'm gonna be right now

610
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: in this moment. If I'm playing, so you're talking trash

611
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: will just distract me from it. And ever since I

612
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: got into it with him a few times and all

613
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: that stuff, I was like, yeah, game, I'm not even

614
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna pay him any mind because he's trying to win

615
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna get me out my game. I

616
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: know what you're trying to do, you know. And I

617
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: had to learn that lesson the rough way. So so

618
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: Garnette talk trash to get you off your spot plenty

619
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: of times. I mean, he got the best of me

620
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 1: so many times. I said, Man, i gotta stop talking

621
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: to this guy because you know, I'm thinking about the

622
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: next comeback as opposed to being like, hey, the rotation

623
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: on defense or making the pass out the double team,

624
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, or how to score against

625
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: this guy because oh my god, like he would grab

626
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: me like he would I would cross half court. You

627
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: could watch they watch if you want to have a

628
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: good time. Watch some old like watch the mid two thousands,

629
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: late two thousands, me versus KG. Oh. He would grab me.

630
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: He would be over there like wrestling, and you know,

631
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: the game would be over here, the ball would be

632
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: on the other side of the court, and we're just

633
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: I would get exhausted just trying to get the ball.

634
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: That's how in competitive you know that he was and intense.

635
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: We would both be just breathing hard. But we wouldn't

636
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Speaker 1: give up because you know, I can't let this guy

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Speaker 1: see me give up. We're just we're over here wrestling

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Speaker 1: and we don't even have to you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was just an intensely competitive match up

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Speaker 1: every single time against that guy. When Lebron announced he

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Speaker 1: was leaving Miami, sad day or a realization great things

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Speaker 1: never last. Both, you know, both Um, we went in too,

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Speaker 1: of course, get another crack at it. We were super disappointed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of people don't take

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Speaker 1: that into account as well. It sucks losing in the finals.

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Speaker 1: It sucks playing eighty two games and in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: and then get your head beat in right in in

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Speaker 1: in the championship situation. So uh, you know, not being

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Speaker 1: able to three peak was tough. You know, we had

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Speaker 1: to get over that. But I came to later understand

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Speaker 1: more his decision. At the time, I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna line. I was hurt a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and you know, disappointed and all those all those things.

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Speaker 1: But you know, eventually we had to move on and

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Speaker 1: in another season starts, so we had a new bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys to lead. And now everybody's like, hey, Chris,

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Speaker 1: you used to shoot the ball into ron a lot, right,

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Speaker 1: can you do that again? You know? All right, cool,

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Speaker 1: blow the dust off these knees and see what could happen.

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Speaker 1: Do you like your life now as an elder statesman?

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Speaker 1: Like do you ever miss I mean, think about Chris

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Speaker 1: how you were the Beatles, right, I mean you were

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Speaker 1: you were? You go from one hundred miles an hour

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Speaker 1: to your life now talking about a book? Like do

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Speaker 1: you miss the Juice? I do, But it's good to

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Speaker 1: miss things. You have to work. The hours that you

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Speaker 1: put in for the Juice is unmatched. And while we

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Speaker 1: were doing it, man, it's amazing. With the media obligations

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Speaker 1: and the team obligations and your foundation obligations and family obligations,

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Speaker 1: and make sure you're performing on the road and at home,

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Speaker 1: you know, and somewhere in there, I guess having a

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Speaker 1: social life and you know, having fun. We're in there.

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Speaker 1: You're just around the clock twenty four seven. That's why

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Speaker 1: I don't miss it. The men and women who get

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Speaker 1: to that point, they put a tremendous amount of work

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Speaker 1: into their craft, and you know, I've done it. You know,

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Speaker 1: that was the main thing for me. When I look

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Speaker 1: back on it, I say, Okay, I know with all

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Speaker 1: my heart that I put everything into this. I've done it.

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Speaker 1: I can move on. When you were elected into the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, the moment you found out where in

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Speaker 1: your mind did you go back to when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid on the concrete courts at Hutchins Park, Campbell

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Speaker 1: Park and Husbins, Texas, Tommy and Allen Recreation Center and

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Speaker 1: Park in Dallas, Texas, Singing Hills Recreation Center in Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 1: You know, those were those were the places that I

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Speaker 1: went to, the rides from coaches, you know, going to

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Speaker 1: either get a hot meal after practice or before game,

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Speaker 1: or taking me home keeping the gym open. You know,

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Speaker 1: those those are the things that I thought about the

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Speaker 1: people that helped me I always like to say those

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Speaker 1: summer days. Man, the perfect summer day for me was

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Speaker 1: wake up, he's some pancakes, ride my bike to go

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Speaker 1: hoop with my friends, We play video games, take a

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Speaker 1: cold bath because it was one hundred degrees outside, play

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Speaker 1: more video games, and then go right back out there

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Speaker 1: and play into the evening and hopefully, you know, our

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Speaker 1: moms will let us spend the night or something like that.

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Speaker 1: That you know, those were the moments that I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about, and you know, just to be able to

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Speaker 1: come from that and have this wonderful journey of coaches

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Speaker 1: and adversaries or not adversaries, people helping me out just

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Speaker 1: throughout the way that those are the first things that

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Speaker 1: I thought about. I didn't think about all of the

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Speaker 1: you know, championships or All Stars or you know, all

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Speaker 1: of the accolades and stuff like that. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about the friends I've made, being able to see things

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Speaker 1: in the world that I had never seen before, and

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Speaker 1: just having, man, having experiences. I'll never forget. Chris Bosh,

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Speaker 1: great book Letters to a young Athlete. Appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 1: I know you've got a bunch of interviews to do

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Speaker 1: with this, but I always love having You're a smart guy,

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Speaker 1: and I really appreciate you like sharing stuff, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I genuinely like listening to you. I appreciate that, man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, all right, Thanks Chris, all right, Chris Bosh.

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