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Check out new episodes of Hot 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.479 Mike with Dan Savage every Tuesday, available on Audible, Apple Podcasts, 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:45.519 or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. No entering noticed Stockholm, Marge, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:52.199 I'm so horning right now Tuesday morning. I'm in a 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:58.360 comic bookstore. I'm dressed like a Patriot, and I'm horning, 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.200 just kind of San Francis around. Just sleep in my 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:12.800 bed to Hill, don't can stay in the mouth. Yea 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.560 wearing any pants, but I am wearing a full American 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.400 sex you know. Oh my god. Welcome to William accept 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:26.200 This Rose Podcast Finality Edition my name is Arta Marine. 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:31.120 I am back in Los Angeles. Thank you so much 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.480 to everyone. This is the only podcast out there that's 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:39.560 currently about grief and the Bachelor. I'm a text take 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.240 people from Grief Island and uh, here's what I just 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.240 want to say, guys. I'm nine days in and this 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.680 is what I want to say about grief the Bachelor. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.440 It's a perfectly acceptable form of grief therapy. To host 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.080 a Bachelor podcast is the only thing that I want 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.320 to do this and watch British people baking pies is 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.680 the Dogana proven the oven. I just I watched four 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.760 seasons of The Great British Baking Show and um, thank 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.240 you to everybody who's the nice emails. And here's my 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.679 final thought on grief. Let's just get grief out of 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:19.400 the way. Two things. One, it's perfectly acceptable to text 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.240 a condolence. I had a friend tell me that. I 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.400 was like, that's bullshit. You got a handwrite a card, 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:31.880 you can just text it, okay. Second, one second, thing 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.080 you did you did it? I put it. I have 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.880 my list of was texted and it was just in 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.320 the Oh my god, I hope it's a Dick. Vick's 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.119 so sorry for your lost and then um, and then 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.160 here's the other thing from Grief Island. Here's what I've learned, 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.840 And this is a true statement about grief and don't 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.480 gonna move on. And I promised my entire podcast from 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.320 now on is not going to be about grief. But 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.720 you know what, but here's here's what I learned. Guys, 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.760 my dad was sick for a long time. Even if 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.040 somebody sick for a long time and you've pre grieved them, 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.959 there's no free pass. It's like Ellis Island. You still 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.720 get knocked off your balance beam and that's okay. And 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.840 I hope you like your sweatpants like I do. And 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.040 I hope you have a subscription to Netflix and you 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.440 can watch British people baking. Fine, there you go, well 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:28.880 said bake. It's a good metaphor for grieving. Yes, I 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.960 was trying to get those sentence in aether and I 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.360 and I hope that everybody when um, when they have 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.120 a loss, gets to go to San Francisco like I do. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.800 You gotta keep yourself, you gottas. I'm gonna be okay, guys, 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.760 I'm gonna be okay. We're just going to carry you 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:51.200 off of Freef Island. Kenny, do it, do it? Oh 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.080 my god, he is strong enough to make it happen. 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:06.920 Please okay, please snake is naked, please please do that 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:12.000 for Kenny. I want you guys also to know. On 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.120 Greef Island, I allow one visitor a day, and then 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.600 you get rudely ejected with no warning, like there's no 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.839 you're do you think you're killing it, and then you 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.039 just feel a little tiny toe like a boot on 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.440 your back, and then you just you've been put onto 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.680 a dinghy and you're kicked off the island. And I 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.760 picture myself looking like that Samoan guy, my as the 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.640 only resident, as the only permanent resident of Greef Island. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.400 I picture myself looklearly like that guy who's saying Oz, 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:43.760 who's saying somewhere over the rainbow, and you you don't 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.640 know what you're gonna you don't know what you did 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.120 to cross me. But it's like at one, just get quiet, 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.120 and I'll go, oh, look what's over there, like if 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.600 that sounds it, and then you'll just get a little 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.160 tiny boot and then you here, get out, get the 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.400 funk out, and then and then that's it. Okay, But 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.800 you know what I think I should. I should be 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.599 back in the game. I'm thinking at the end of 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.080 this Sunday night, when I I've done our podcast and 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.799 Goddamn Comedy Jam, I'll be back in the game of life. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:15.400 You don't have to give any Okay, you get two 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.320 weeks stops. Okay, okay, there's a campdown of grief. Grief 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.719 count two weeks tops. Um. So that's it. So and 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.960 and if you do want to see this insane shit show, 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.239 you two can witness this this Sunday at Outside Lands 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:33.160 Festival and San Francisco with me Aaron Paget Heighten Heer, 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:37.640 but not Rob's not to my right. No, wait, I 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:39.560 have to start with a cross from me. Across from 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:44.279 me is my platonic life partner. She is the sexiest 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.120 wonder woman. She's the woman that I almost broke her 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.200 nose in a wonder Woman had helmet headband. I'm going 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.960 to make her perform at Goddamn Comedy Jam. She says 0:05:54.000 --> 0:06:00.320 she can't sing, but I don't care grief. I've read 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.919 the only resident needs to be serenaded and um, I 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.599 love her very much. Ladies and gentlemen, my sexiest co 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:13.800 host Aaron. Fully are you Aaron. I'm gonna be your spiritual. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.000 I'm gonna break your hair, real type. I'm gonna bring 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.840 you fruity drinks. Oh my god. And I just just 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.040 I'm gonna have your back. You're gonna have your back. Yeah, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.920 you're not gonna get a toe to the back. You're not. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.200 You're not going to get a boot like, oh, what's 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.640 over there? Nope, I'm gonna I'm gonna be the camp. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.000 Can I just say you know who? Our full lineup 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.280 is in San Francisco. It's amazing, Like, I can't. I 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:42.559 can't have five men. I never thought I would be. 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.240 You know, our knows me most better than most people. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:50.280 And I only get excited for the lesbian athletes. And 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.640 I am getting real, real excited for these. I have 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.880 put together a lineup of five. Really, we lost all 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.960 the ladies because apparently and they're all going to be 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.880 at the stupid engagement party for fake cheeks. But to 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.360 all the girls we lost Raven, we tried to get Dolphin. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.160 Everybody's going to Dallas to see fake cheeks and put 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:17.080 a ring on it. Yet, who you're not yet? Not yet? 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:22.880 I'm t I'm going to check. I've asked permission to 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.800 see maybe by the end of the podcast, I've emailed 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.280 to see if I can have permission to say who 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.000 it is to my right. We have. He's really doing 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.160 a great job as his duties. And he's invited to 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.800 the island today. Um, and I hope you like how 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.240 I look at my bikini. Um, and I'm wearing a 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.520 bikini right now. That's an American flag. He is, he 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:45.880 is on Supernatural. Um. He is an incredible patriot and 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.280 he is the seventeenion. Will you accept this Frost Bachelor 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.320 of the Year Robert so much? I consider you too 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.400 my only friends. I we I that's my honor. I 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.240 found it today that island. You do kiss? Oh yeah, don't. Yeah, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.000 you better kiss me on the mouth. Not today, but 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.760 you're gonna kiss me on the mouth. And I walked in. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.680 She said, don't kiss me on the mouth. I'm kind 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.040 of sick. Yeah, And I said, it's good to know 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:09.560 that I can kiss you on them. You can. You 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.440 you better kiss me on the No. Although if I 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:19.280 come to San Francisco so we're gonna sleep, Toty, that's 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:27.480 still face to face creepier than you should just come. 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.800 Will you please just come? Will you come? I will? Well? 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:35.400 I just did, we didn't. I have never been more around. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.959 I am so horny right now. I listen, guys, let's 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:42.559 talk about the subject at hand. Batcherette, what a hide, Katy. 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.319 Let's just say if you were killing you were killing 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.480 me last night with your mom's text. Oh my god, 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.520 my god, what did your mom say? I texted her 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.640 during um Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I saw that. I 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.079 It's always like, why aren't you and Anthony engaged? Yeah? Yeah? 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.959 And I was like, is this how I should get Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.640 yeah yeah. Feel yeah. She's like, yeah that would work. 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.480 Side note, I did not go to Kimmel and I, 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.880 and I'm glad for it because I wouldn't have wanted 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:20.160 to waste my time to see fake cheeks in person. Okay, 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.360 because they're real quick. I yeah. I just after the overall, 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.680 after the episode, I just feel like, oh my god, 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.480 I feel like I got let on. It was so 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:33.680 yeah you did, Rob, I'm so sorry that got kidnapped. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:38.280 Is that the worst finale ever? Yeah? I mean so 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.840 weaving as you phrased it that after the final rose. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.280 It was woven through the episode like a ship weed. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.079 It was a ship weed, and I think it was 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.959 their way of saying, like, we don't know how to 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.440 deal with Peter. Just dis exactly, but like it made 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.559 it so much worse. Like sweet a minute, that was 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.280 a breakup that was like is that it or is 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.280 this a fake out? And then they did ye and 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.719 the fact we still knew by ten or ten I 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.400 was so, oh my god, it was so it was 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:11.160 the worst finale that that was the most anti It 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.079 was set up to be the best finale because you 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.120 I was so excited to be like, well, that's right, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:16.840 we still have we should don't know who the final 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.360 two are. Yeah, there's three full contenders. Any of those 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.800 three could have won. Yeah, And it was for such 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.319 an awesome season, like I love we all loved her. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.880 She's got to be one of the best in history. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:34.080 And the worst. It was the worst finale I thought 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.760 for We're sure, and it made me like her less, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.080 and it made me like her less, made like Peter less. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.400 I like Peter. I went up and down on Peter. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.600 I was like, guy's so real, He's keeping it real. 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.640 And then and then finally I felt about him, like 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.240 you guys kind were saying about her last night. I 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.040 was like, get of yourself. Just see how I went 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.800 to happen. But I like him now more than that. 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.959 Actually stuck to his guns. He wasn't you know what 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.719 she wasn't mean I don't think he was into it, 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.440 then I don't either, because if he was really really 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.600 into it, he really thought this girl was it, then 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.160 he would have done what cheeks did you know in 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.559 the end she has with cheeks what Peter said he 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.480 would have done. Right. But but but just but you 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.839 know that Peter wanted but she's saying, we'll see he 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.160 didn't want a wheel. See he wanted a If we're engaged, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.760 there's no wheel. See we're getting married. Kind of get 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:30.360 over yourself? Is it that? I just I was so like, 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.839 I just you know, sometimes I go into and I 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:39.599 hold women, I hold women in a higher realm, and 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.880 I just thought, this looks this is a strong, funny, awesome, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.000 kick ass lady. And all season long, I'm like, she's 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.800 just a kick ass role model, Like she just is 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.760 a strong female. And then I'll set in que to 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.600 the end. I just put a ring up of here. 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.120 I want to get married my guy. I want to 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.400 and you're just like you like and just it's just 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.840 I and you can see this wilful like her eye 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.719 and we'll get to it, but her eyes. When she 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:09.800 said she wanted Peter, Peter was so obvious that it 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.000 took that. He said he was in the hotel for 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.800 two days with the lashes, and she was waiting for 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.040 two days for him to be like, all right, Neil Lane, 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.800 let's do this. I changed my mind and like so 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.920 so I think she was. And remember when Brian said, oh, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.199 there's a weather. She was waiting for him to like 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.520 step up to the bat. She wanted him. And now 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.920 there's a willful like I'm living my best life, like 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:38.840 trying to convince yeah, I'm like okay, no, no, she's 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.079 gonna willfully rewrite. Like and when I think back to 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.160 some of her interviews at the beginning, like I saw 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:45.880 her on like I don't know, Extra or something, and 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.560 she's like, should I spill the tea? I'm in love, 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.319 I am engaged, trying to herself. That's what That's what 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.320 it looks like. It feels like I'm gonna show Peter 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:58.080 and that boyfriend of five years and net that somebody 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.920 wants to put a big fat pair of shape ring 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.520 on it. And I have to say, I'm always I'm 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.880 always siding with the woman, of course, and you know, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.480 maybe she's in love with Brian. Knocked yourself out, but 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.800 you shouldn't be able to bring that's your baggage. That's 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.640 Peter's baggage. Peters did nothing wrong. You just try to 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.800 date her for freaking three long weekends. You can't compare 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.120 three long weekends to five years. Yeah, what was She's like? 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:26.360 Her whole personality and everything we loved was not congrue 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.720 it with the ending, and I felt like we got 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.559 bambooz old. I took my TV plugged, unplugged it and 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.200 threw it off the bat you should have and I said, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.200 I'm not gonna ta that's crap. And then I immediately 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:42.400 got it and plugged it back. Yet still actually good. Okay, 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.240 here we go. Rachel at the sound stage. I haven't 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:46.960 seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet, like her, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.520 saying that it was the least poised she's ever been, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.679 her saying, you know, can I leave? Ha ha? We 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.960 found a one. Pablo is married and nobody cares no photo. 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.520 I think I blocked that out audience didn't like there 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.920 was like a happy hazards Okay, yeah, it was like 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.120 he wanted everyone to know that that he did finally 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.480 find someone and they did it, but they wouldn't say 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.679 to who where, or there's no photo because no one 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.640 gives a shit about him. We all hated it. Probably 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:20.280 he was seriously how he presented himself on the season before, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.640 We're like, oh my god, he's like adorable, and then 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.040 he came on and was the biggest dick in the Universitatie, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.880 did you see that season one season? Yeah, it turns 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.760 out he really wasn't real life too. He's kind of 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.920 a dick. I can't believe that bachelor had even agreed 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.080 to make that announcement. Now he sucked. Yeah, it could 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:41.080 have been like Charlie Smith fourteen Main Street and nobody knows. 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:45.880 I'm just got engage. Um okay, So here we are, 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.160 so there with Peter. We're in Rio Hospain. What if 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.880 I'm not ready to say will you marry me? I'm 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.760 trying not to cry. I want a proposal. I had 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.960 a five year relationship and that never left the boyfriend 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.640 girlfriend's stage. And then it made me realize how deep 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.520 my emotions are for you. I want to thank you 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.160 for sharing those emotions. Just know that means a lot 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.040 to me. That's advanced me a lot. And then like 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.400 that that is not the sound of a guy that's 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.520 feeling passionate. You've advanced me. Seeing you cry made me 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.880 like you like And then they actually did finally give 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.440 out a skeleton key, Like then they did the key. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.600 They got sent to an airbnb, whereas that sucking hostile 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.800 that they got, whereas whereas ding Dong Cheeks got like 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.160 a full like you know, a regular hotel they got 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:47.080 for three and I know because Ben Higgins they were 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.160 even though they weren't sandals, they didn't have like plunging 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.840 pools in the room. In the room, this felt like, 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.920 you know, we got three nights at the Ramata for 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.280 we're going to leave the light on. The when that 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.760 Peter got sent to was like it felt like a 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.480 college door in room where somebody tried like they went 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.280 to urban outfitters and they got like a tapestry to 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.960 cover like a couple of like like target throw pillows 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.760 and some candles. Yeah, yeah, for sure that was like 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.280 a p A like a p A run for sure. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:22.320 So then they have them shirtless, poking their head out 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.960 the window like that. It was like the funniest thing 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.840 I couldn't I reminded watching three times were I was like, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.440 this is the great They were like, Hi, come a 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.160 knock on our door. I'm a knock on my bone. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:42.320 Then put bone and bone and so she she boned three, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:48.360 all three of them for sure. Data it's a lady, Yeah, 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.080 is that something we just just that's just okay, you 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.640 just you do that, and you're I grew up in 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.560 the era of AIDS, so I grew up so convinced 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.600 that I was immediate gonna get like and I've been 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.640 married since I was nine, so I did not you did? 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.480 You did get married off very young a kind of 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.120 a religion where they marry you up a Canadian? Canadian? 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:24.240 Are you Canadian at all? Um? But like, but like 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.240 I personally would be too afraid of disease. It is 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.639 to bone three people in three days. But but like 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.800 if I if I had and like just no fear 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.320 around disease, I would go for three for three. But 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.000 I'm not that person. I'm a complete Like let's go 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.160 get tested and you know the other word, isn't there 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.760 now like it used to be, I would be too 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.159 chicken to do it, but I would want to. I 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:53.159 think I think going in if I I think she 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.960 knew going and she's probably gonna cut Eric right, that's 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.040 what if we could probably maybe make that. So if 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:00.720 I was her, I don't think I would find it 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.800 necessary to shag Eric. I think she did the um 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.199 she might have and that bad. Yeah, we saw that bad. Well, 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.720 I mean that could be p a ruffle, ruffle the sheets. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.200 But I do think if you were let's say, like 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.280 in all every other Bachelor at or even this one 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.240 where she's like sort of in love with two of them, 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.760 I think he definitely got to shag him to see. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.359 Like we've all we've all been there where you're like, 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.560 oh my god, I'm digging this person and then you 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.720 go into the bone zone and there ain't no I 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.600 got car girl, But I remember she was like, physical 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.720 touch is very important. I feel like she like she 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.520 I think she got at it. Katie, you wanted to 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:42.240 say something about the bone zone. Katy say she read 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.120 online that she didn't have sex with all of them 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:49.240 from Mama Levine, She's going and did she watch all season? 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.760 Does she always every season. Who did she like? She 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.560 thought Brian was gonna win, but she didn't really like him. 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.520 I guess she liked Peter the last She was kind 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:03.840 of like she was honestly, nobody was my brother Aleric, 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:05.879 who you all got to know last week. Aleric thought 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:12.359 Eric was going to win. In a bold move, I said, Brian, 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.960 did any of us we I picked Alex toin, I 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:22.560 picked Jack Stone and Stone and Eric is number two. Okay, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.879 I don't. I don't think except for I mean, no one, 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.960 no one did anybody even like her want Brian ever? Know? 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:34.240 Nobody wanted Brian. No. Um. So then it turns out 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.119 he lived, So then she's the only one except for 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:43.359 the one person that came. So Peter left her in 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.880 the street and her pajamas on her slippers. He left 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.440 her in the street in her like fuck me clothes 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.800 standing there and her like little satin shorty shorts and slippers. 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.040 So then Brian and the horses and you can like 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.359 her full vibe was like thinking about Peter Peter better 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.640 the whole time. That's what I thought, Oh my god, 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.200 it could be Peter, because she wanted Peter. This is 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:12.080 the first time she looked so overbright, and that day 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:16.399 went horribly and I was like, okay, yeah, excited me 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.760 to she They rode horses. He says, I missed you. 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:22.040 He said, which horse do you want? She said the 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.679 brown one, of course, because it matches me. Um. They 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.720 talked about the family and then she had a giant 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.440 sip of wine and he said, I felt like I 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:39.800 handled myself pretty good. Bad grammar for bulb and the 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:44.520 other thing. I really I really felt whatever I disliked 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.840 about him was even worse last night. Like he just 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:50.480 doesn't seem to be cool, Like you can't even write 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:56.680 a horse nothing like it's not like he walks is 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.479 like a like a like a like so like an 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.080 awkward like there's like three things in his body that 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.920 he's struggling with to figure out how he can walk. 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:09.800 It's not swave, mom, He's a mama's playing that's the 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:14.000 best way, but he's playing sky. Even his Spanish is 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:19.920 so just like he's a wood. He is a mama's boy. 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:25.360 Like you can't be fully cool and be a legit 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:29.120 mama's boy, like you just can't. You can love your mom, 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:30.800 you can be good to your mom, but to be 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.960 a legit, mama's you can't date your mom like he's 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:35.600 dating like the love of my life is my mom. 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.160 He said that phrase. Every time he tries to be cool, 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.119 he has to look down at his own cheeks and 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:45.640 see his mom's. But then he gets distracted. Some good 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.080 tweets about that last night. So then she says, Peter 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.760 messed in my mind. I'm struggling. I don't know, I 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:59.600 don't know, I don't know. Yeah, she wasn't. She wanted, 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.600 she wanted Peter like when we will get there. But 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.800 when he said, Mike, can you say right now that 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:07.040 I'm the person for you? And she said, you know, 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:08.920 I can't say that because she wanted to be like yes, 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.440 and then if she'd said it, I like that. Brian 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.679 seems to not even he just wants to be famous, 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.840 and he's just he doesn't give a funk that she 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.640 clearly wasn't like. It doesn't seem to rattle him at all, 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.000 Like he doesn't seem have taken it in. He's not 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:28.360 bothered by it. She is. So it was so clearly 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.760 like to say, just to do it. You. I want 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.080 you you you you you you, And he was like 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.560 and she and he wouldn't do it, okay, So then 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.879 he says, today was a little rough, little awkward. She 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:43.040 wasn't all there, and she says it's hard to compartmentalize, 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.520 meaning I want to be with Peter. Um. I'm was 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.359 close to breaking up with Peter. I was ready to 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:53.240 send him home. I feel confident that this extra time, 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.160 something about today felt a little off, a little different, 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:59.320 a little different energy from you, a vibe. I didn't 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:04.159 feel like you were there. I mean, he wasn't an idiot. No. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.120 I thought that was the only time he had any 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:11.119 self awareness. Because they're just always like kissing, They've like, 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.359 I don't even know what they could possibly talk about. 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.080 All they talk about is are you really? Are you really? So? 0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.280 But the thing about Rachel, I think, and this is 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.720