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Speaker 1: a touchdown? Oh baby, put film. Here's Craig Griolo, Paul Calvisi,

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Speaker 1: and thirteen year NFL veteran Drew Stanton. Let me pull

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Speaker 1: the curtain back just a little bit here at the

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Speaker 1: Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center. Today is day one

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Speaker 1: of the offseason strength and conditioning program. Something we discussed

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Speaker 1: a week ago here on the Cardinal's Red Seat Report. Well,

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Speaker 1: we know it is in fact happening. It is voluntary,

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Speaker 1: but we know it is in fact happening because, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: the parking lot was full and if you dare arrived

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Speaker 1: late to work today, Paul, you would not get a

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Speaker 1: primo parking position. Now, if you're Drew Stanton, former Cardinal player,

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Speaker 1: you have that spot reserve because that's just who you are.

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Speaker 1: You and I, though, we have to make sure we

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Speaker 1: do not show up one minute late tour. So what

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Speaker 1: are you insinuating that I am out in the auxiliary lot,

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Speaker 1: that I was not here before nine o'clock? Okay, guilty

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Speaker 1: by association, you got me, You're right. I I'm out

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Speaker 1: in the auxiliary lot. I had to take the shuttle in.

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Speaker 1: How about that time, though, Drew that Bruce arians cut

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Speaker 1: the fringe player for parking right up front in the

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Speaker 1: designated parking that's supposed to be for season ticket holders,

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Speaker 1: And after he had warned everything, was that truer? I

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Speaker 1: mean that it was right there on all or nothing

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Speaker 1: was that reality? That was reality? You know? I think

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Speaker 1: it was one of those things that BA had warned

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Speaker 1: everybody multiple times. Hey, like, you know, our lifeblood is

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Speaker 1: that's a huge problem. And so there were some things

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Speaker 1: that he needed to clean up when he got here,

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Speaker 1: and he said a precedent multiple times and sent very

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Speaker 1: parked in that spot. Again, what's soape that is not

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Speaker 1: happening here in twenty twenty three. Now, again, this is voluntary.

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Speaker 1: It is only strengthened conditioning. No coaches. You can be

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Speaker 1: strengthened conditioning drills, but no coach player interaction just yet.

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Speaker 1: This is phase one. If you will the offseason strengthen

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Speaker 1: Conditioning program. If you check out the social media channels,

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Speaker 1: including the brand new Twitter handle that Paul CALVC likes

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Speaker 1: to think he runs at Azy Cards Insiders, you'll see

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Speaker 1: our Steam colleague, Darren Urban tweeting out some photos and

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Speaker 1: some video. Offensive players get in first. I believe the

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Speaker 1: defensive players are coming in as we speak, Drew, but

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Speaker 1: we are seeing a number of players, and the big

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Speaker 1: good sign because depending on what happens with number ten, well,

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Speaker 1: so this is a great sign. As we talked about

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Speaker 1: And Drew's right, when you see the itinerary, the majorit

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Speaker 1: And to Drew's point last week, don't think you're not

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals as we speak, still with the number three

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Speaker 1: it is that silly season, if you will. And a

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Speaker 1: Schefter on Monday. The tweet read impart. At least six

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Speaker 1: teams have inquired with the Arizona Cardinals about trading up

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Speaker 1: that mean? Hey? Is it pick for sale? Are you interested?

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Speaker 1: make sure that those other teams that are looking for

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Speaker 1: exactly right. There's a paranoia, there's fomo right now that's

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Speaker 1: because at least six teams have inquired. Whatever that means.

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Speaker 1: all this is is just posturing because you don't know

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Speaker 1: right now, the will Levis hasn't exactly endeared himself to

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Speaker 1: But once again, I don't think that's a disaster scenario

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Speaker 1: means one of those top two quarterbacks is still on

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Speaker 1: it in from a team coming up exactly, you get

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Speaker 1: more people interested at that point. And Demiko Ryan's came

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, Demiko Ryan's has been there,

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Speaker 1: Red Sea Report presented by See Your Ticket to Great

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Speaker 1: to what Miami got from San Francisco. To move up

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Speaker 1: from twelve to three and take Trey Lance in this

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Speaker 1: case eleven to three. Then yeah, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you are trading down, You're probably out of the will

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Speaker 1: Anderson game, and you might be looking at a Tyree

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Speaker 1: Wilson at number eleven. And that's what mocked. So that's

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Speaker 1: what mel Kiper mocked to the Cardinals pick number eleven.

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Speaker 1: He also had the quarterbacks going one, two, three, and four.

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Speaker 1: The first four picks all quarterbacks in mel Kiper's later

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Speaker 1: mocked draft. All right, in addition to Tyree Wilson, what

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Speaker 1: about what was once upon a time the number one

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Speaker 1: player regardless of position, Jaalen Carter and all of his

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Speaker 1: off the field issues and not being able to finish

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Speaker 1: at his personal pro day. Now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: if you do trade down, is Jalen Carter an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to learn option for the Cardinals. Here's ESPN's Marcus Spears

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Speaker 1: on the Georgia product. One of the things you talk

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Speaker 1: about defensive linemen, especially when they're young, is one how

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Speaker 1: powerless they are at the point of contact. How much

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Speaker 1: balance do you have when you're getting bumped by other

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman and the tray and the things that are

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Speaker 1: around you. His feet stays off the ground, he never

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Speaker 1: gets stuck, and his lower body, his Laura have, doesn't

452
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Speaker 1: get knocked off of his path to the football. That

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Speaker 1: is immediate impact football players on the next level, and

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Speaker 1: he'll be that for whoever takes him defensive tackle, who

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Speaker 1: can get that pressure up the middle run stuffer. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there are issues off the field. On the field though,

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Speaker 1: what you saw from him at Georgia, two time national champion,

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Speaker 1: unanimous All American, sixty three three hundred pounds. It's the

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Speaker 1: edge rusher that I know scares quarterbacks. But the quickest

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Speaker 1: way to get to the quarterback is a straight line

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Speaker 1: versus at an angle from the outside. And everyone points

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Speaker 1: to what are the rams have Aaron Donald? But it's

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Speaker 1: hard to find in the National Football League. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: touch him, not, I mean, off the field scares me.

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Speaker 1: When you're changing culture around here, you get it. I

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Speaker 1: mean the first guy that comes to mind is Robert Kimdici, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he has everything you want on a football field when

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Speaker 1: he decides he wants to do it, and that's when

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Speaker 1: he's on the field. When he's off the field, you're terrified. Right,

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Speaker 1: all of the stuff that's coming off the field is

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Speaker 1: really difficult for you to sit there and say you're

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Speaker 1: going to invest a number three overall pick in this guy,

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Speaker 1: even if you trade down. I wouldn't even have him

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Speaker 1: on my draft board. And it's no disrespect of what

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Speaker 1: he does on the field. I mean, you've seen him dominate,

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Speaker 1: dominate games before and as it's talked about, but that's

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Speaker 1: a fraction of what it means to play at this level.

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Speaker 1: You no longer have the protection of Georgia and Kirby

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Speaker 1: Smart and everybody else making sure you're going to class

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Speaker 1: and you're doing all these little things. It's on you,

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Speaker 1: and you've got to be able to do that. I

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Speaker 1: would be terrified. I would not have him as opposed

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Speaker 1: to a guy like Will Anderson that's going to be

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher for you. Yes, internal pass rush is

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Speaker 1: a premium. You want to be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: But when you're talking about changing and a shift, a

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Speaker 1: complete shift of accountability and culture within this organization, a

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Speaker 1: guy like that cannot even be in consideration. You know,

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Speaker 1: the guy who's intriguing, and we looked at him last week.

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Speaker 1: We talked about him on Cardinal Underground, the podcast, and

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Speaker 1: then he was actually mocked at the Cardinals by mel

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Speaker 1: Kiper today at number forty one overall. Mazzy Smith, the

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Speaker 1: d lineman from Michigan, one of his teammates described him.

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Speaker 1: I'm quoting now, I feel like if a brick wall

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Speaker 1: could move, that's Mazzy Smith. He came into Michigan at

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Speaker 1: three forty five, three fifty. He admitted he was fat

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Speaker 1: and he reshaped his body and now he plays at

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Speaker 1: about three twenty five six three three twenty five. They

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Speaker 1: put him on the nose and he was absolutely dominant.

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Speaker 1: To listen to some of the Big Ten coaches talk

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Speaker 1: about him. In fact, it was Kirk Ferens who said

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Speaker 1: he looks like a refrigerator, but he can move and

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Speaker 1: there's these ridiculous social media videos of him doing box

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Speaker 1: jumps at that size and his ability to move double teams.

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Speaker 1: You put him on the nose for this Cardinals team

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Speaker 1: because yes, they need defensive lineman. Well, I'm Withdrew, I'm

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Speaker 1: not on board with Jalen Carter. No. Well, that just

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Speaker 1: might be another name though, given the Michigan connections that

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Speaker 1: Drew doesn't have on his personal draft board. As a

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Speaker 1: Michigan State I take them, Hey, okay, the best player available.

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Speaker 1: The other position that the Cardinals need, despite what they've

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Speaker 1: done so far in free agency, is cornerback, whether that's

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Speaker 1: drafting a Christian Gonzalez, who the Cardinals should be maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit more familiar with than any other the cornerbacks,

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Speaker 1: considering that Gonzalez's brother in law is David Blow, Cardinals

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Speaker 1: quarterback in that room right now as we speak. And

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Speaker 1: then you've got Devin Witherspoon, Joey Porter junior, son of

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Speaker 1: Joey Porter, the longtime Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker. But cornerback Drew

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Speaker 1: is another position that if you're the Cardinals, you definitely

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Speaker 1: want to take a look at, because, as they say,

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Speaker 1: you can never have enough corners, Yeah, exactly, And this

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Speaker 1: draft appears to be pretty deep with corners, so you

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Speaker 1: just don't know how they're going to fit into the

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Speaker 1: scheme of what you're going on. You look at Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gannon and the style that he wants to play is

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Speaker 1: particularly different than what's been here, So you're going to

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Speaker 1: cycle through some of these guys. Obviously, you lost a

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Speaker 1: couple through free agency, and you want to be able

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Speaker 1: to reload that. The best way to do that again

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Speaker 1: is through the draft to be able to find guys.

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Speaker 1: But because it is a little bit deeper, I would

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Speaker 1: shoot more for that second round unless you trade back, right,

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Speaker 1: unless you trade back from that third overall pick. And

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Speaker 1: you're sitting there and saying, Okay, well, I really like

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Speaker 1: where we're at. I feel good about, you know, taking

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Speaker 1: a Christian Gonzalez or Devin Witherspoon at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: But again, it's hard. That's a hard position to plug

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Speaker 1: and play. If you're not going to say, okay, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna play it up straight up, play man coverage, right

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Speaker 1: and you've got to go guard Cooper Cup or you've

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Speaker 1: got to go against DK Metcalf. Those are guys are

542
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Speaker 1: hard to find. Much like Aaron Donald, don't just come

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Speaker 1: off of trees that you can go out and get.

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Speaker 1: But if you feel good about a guy, you can

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Speaker 1: then have some flexibility to get him, put him in there,

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Speaker 1: and make him a cornerstone for a long period of time.

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Speaker 1: Because obviously they didn't feel good about Buyn Murphy's staying

548
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Speaker 1: here and being a premier number one corner. But you're

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Speaker 1: in a potential position based off of how the draft

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Speaker 1: falls to you to get a guy like that that

551
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Speaker 1: can be an extreme difference maker, or you wait for

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Speaker 1: round two and say, okay, well we're gonna build again.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be a multi year process. And

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Speaker 1: when you have the ability, because the depth of this

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Speaker 1: draft allows it, that's when you strike and get a corner.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if they took the corner a

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Speaker 1: top round three and that guy started day one. That's

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Speaker 1: how deep this draft is. I've heard, I've heard some

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Speaker 1: of the end Let's say you can find corners with

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Speaker 1: starter traits on day three of this draft. Now I

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Speaker 1: don't that might be a little extreme, but even like

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Speaker 1: a guy like Deontay Banks out of Maryland, six foot

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Speaker 1: and he runs a four three five forty, highly skilled,

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Speaker 1: I could see him coming into especially if the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: end up with this extra second round pick, you know,

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Speaker 1: they take one to these guys. But there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of corners with good size, really good speed, and some

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Speaker 1: really productive game film that Cardinals are going to get

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. I'm pretty darn confident, and I'm

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Speaker 1: also confident that guy's gonna get a lot of playing

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Speaker 1: time this year. Well, you've got Marco Wilson, You've got

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Speaker 1: a returning Antonio Hamilton, although he is dare I say,

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Speaker 1: up there in age when you talk about football years.

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Speaker 1: And then the two names that they did bring in

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Speaker 1: from outside, Chris Boyd and Rashad Fenton with Paul neither

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Speaker 1: one of those have extensive starting experience. So what you

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Speaker 1: said is absolutely correct. Whether it's the first round, second round,

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Speaker 1: or even third round. If the Cardinals do cold corner,

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Speaker 1: I could certainly see that player being a top three

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Speaker 1: corner week one, no doubt. And you need that guy

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Speaker 1: eventually who can match up with the other team's top threat. Now,

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Speaker 1: the guys they've signed so far, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: are going to be special team's assassins and really have

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Speaker 1: a proven track record on special teams. And yeah, I

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Speaker 1: when you go into zones and you can go nickel

586
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Speaker 1: and dime, they might get some playing time, but you

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Speaker 1: still need someone to pair up with Marco Wilson as

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Speaker 1: a future in that secondary. They did draft Christian Matthew

589
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Speaker 1: a year ago seventh round pick. I know has a

590
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Speaker 1: lot of upside, just very very raw. He has the link,

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Speaker 1: just not the experience, especially college experience at a big

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Speaker 1: continuing to rehab and more on Kyler and what it

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Colt McCoy, David Blou does this team add

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Speaker 1: doo network and get to the line quickly snapping it

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Speaker 1: to Murray. It's a play fake. Murray setting up looking

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Speaker 1: deep now takes off running the right at the thirty five,

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Speaker 1: at the forty and dives to about the forty four

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Speaker 1: yard line again of three for Kyler Murray and I

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Speaker 1: I'm injured Cardinal. It's Kyler who went down gar awkwardly

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Speaker 1: that time as he tried to cut, Oh, no, non contact,

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Speaker 1: he cut right, then tried to cut left and just buckle.

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Speaker 1: And there was a Patriot player right there who called

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Speaker 1: to the Cardinals sideline to bring on the training staff.

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Speaker 1: Week fourteen, December twelfth against the New England Patriots. Third

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Speaker 1: snap of the game on offense and Kyle Murray goes down,

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Speaker 1: suffers a non contact knee injury and a torn ACL.

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Speaker 1: It's revealed he underwent surgery on January third, And now

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Speaker 1: everyone wants to know what is the latest on Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: the offseason strength and conditioning program. And yes, according to

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Speaker 1: our colleague Darren Urban who twitted at az Cards Insiders,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is in the building, not participating in what

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Speaker 1: his teammates are doing, Paul, but still in the building

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Speaker 1: and rehabbing. Certainly now thirteen weeks, fourteen weeks post surgery.

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Speaker 1: There we see Kyler sooner than maybe people think we'll

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Speaker 1: see him. You know, at this point, there's enough out

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Speaker 1: there in terms of some of the reports and the

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Speaker 1: sources that he's done very well with the rehab. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we would be surprised if indeed he was back.

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Speaker 1: Maybe just maybe in the month of September, but if

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Speaker 1: it's October, even November. Okay, this is a long term

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Speaker 1: type of time horizon. But when he posts on social

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Speaker 1: media and I was out of town for Easter write

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Speaker 1: in a mini family reunion. He was in the squad rack.

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Speaker 1: You guys, tell me what was the buzz there with

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in the weight room? He looked like Drew

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Speaker 1: Stanton in the weight room. April seventh, on Kyler's ig story,

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Speaker 1: a video of him squatting three hundred and fifteen pounds,

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Speaker 1: which is exactly what Drew does on a daily basis

642
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: not anymore. Not anymore. I used to do way more, though,

643
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: if we're gonna actually no, not at all. Look, this

644
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: is what I take away from it. I love the

645
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: fact that Kyler hasn't put a time frame on it.

646
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: Everybody else has tried to. And when you go through

647
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: this process like I did when I was in college,

648
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: it is a daily grind of getting better that day right,

649
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: doing which is required a view of that day, and

650
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: then assessing where you are the next day and the

651
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: next day and the next day. So it's this build up,

652
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: and he is attacked to this, as we've seen it

653
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: from a really different angle than most would anticipate from

654
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: the standpoint of, well, yeah, they want to extend it out.

655
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: He might miss the whole season or whatever it is.

656
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: He has not come out and said that himself, and

657
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: I think this is a challenge to him to come

658
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: back as soon as he possibly can. The one thing

659
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: he did say, he's not going to come back until

660
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 1: he's one hundred percent. What that hundred percent looks like

661
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: only he knows that. But the fact that he's squatting

662
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: three fifteen, that he's doing all these things, that he's

663
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: in the building, that he's again doing what we talked

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Speaker 1: about in the previous segment of being in here, being

665
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: around his teammates, and also learning this new offense. Being

666
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: able to put his own imprint on it is to

667
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: be vital for this team because everything is going to

668
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: be able to go through him when he does come

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00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: back and playing in regular season football games to help

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Speaker 1: this franchise be what it can be moving forward. Colled McCoy.

671
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: David Blow also in the building participating in the off

672
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: season strength and conditioning program. And right now, Paul, that

673
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: is it. As far as quarterbacks are concerned. I would

674
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: expect a fourth quarterback added, probably not a veteran quarterback,

675
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: but there I say, someone in the draft, late sixth round,

676
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals do get a seventh round pick at

677
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: some point or once the draft is complete, an undrafted

678
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: rookie free agent, because as we've detailed here, col McCoy

679
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: dealing with an undisclosed injury in the offseason. Just how

680
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: much do we see Colt throw the football? If it's

681
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: just David Blow, well, he's going to need some help.

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00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: He can't do it all by himself. Hey, Colts had

683
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: a busy offseason. He got inducted into the Texas High

684
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: School Football Hall of Fame, so that was a double

685
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: ding there. And then NBC Sports put out a press

686
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: release today that he's going to be one of the

687
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: analysts and the USFL telecasts. So he's a member of

688
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: the team of analysts for USFL TV. So there you go.

689
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: He's a multitasking got himself a couple of you know,

690
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: a side hustle there during the off season, But yeah,

691
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: I still think they're going to go after a quarterback

692
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Speaker 1: in this draft at some point that allows them to

693
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: play a similar style of offense that Kyler Murray offers,

694
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: more of a dual threat type quarterback. And you know

695
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: my affinity for Dorian Thompson Robinson at UCLA. So we'll

696
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: see if he falls, we'll see if it makes sense,

697
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: but I fully expect them to add to that room somehow,

698
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: some way. By the end of the month, there was

699
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: a lot of expectation Drew that this team, because of

700
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: the uncertainty with Kyler and not knowing about Colts, that

701
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: this team needed to go out and find that veteran quarterback.

702
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: But that was not what this team did, which leads

703
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: me to believe that, Okay, maybe Kyler is going to

704
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: be back sooner than expected, Colts should be back and

705
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: not miss a lot of time once the training camp

706
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: in regular season begins, based on the fact that you

707
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: did not go outside and get someone that we had

708
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: talked about a Gardner Minshew names that were tied based

709
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: off Jonathan Gannon Andrew Petsing. Yeah, I think it's difficult, right,

710
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: and most of these organizations. When you do come and

711
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: there is turnover, you just got to be careful of

712
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: how much turnover there is and where that turnover exists.

713
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: So when you look at this right, a lot of

714
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: organizations don't want to make decisions until they have to write,

715
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: until they have all of the answers, until the cards

716
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: are on the table, and then they want to be

717
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: able to pick and choose what they're going to do.

718
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is an extreme question mark. When he's coming

719
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: back and along this process is going to take, they'll

720
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: have a much firmer grasp on what this will look

721
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: like in a few weeks leading into the draft, and

722
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: maybe they do decide a draft a quarterback that is

723
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: more fitting for Kyle a style of play, because you

724
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: don't want to have to change the offense, but also

725
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: what is Drew Pets installing. What is he going to

726
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: put in the playbook, and you can maybe tailor it

727
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: more towards a guy that's more user friendly, like Colt

728
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: McCoy that can plug and play and hand the ball

729
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: off and all of the stuff that we've seen or

730
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: we're thinking we're going to see from the experiences that

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Speaker 1: they've been associated with on this coaching staff. And then

732
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: you have a guy like David Blow that started showed

733
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: some promise, did some different things. He's a younger guy

734
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: in this league as far as all how long he's

735
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: been around for the number of starts, but he's been

736
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: in the league for a lot of years now that

737
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: he is comfortable operating in his own skin, he can

738
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: be ready at a moment's noticed. He showed all this.

739
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: So there's value in all of these guys. On top

740
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: of you're going to get a camp arm because the

741
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: colt's going to need days off, Kyler's going to need

742
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: a very limited number of reps. You're going to need

743
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: another guy. But you have to be strategic on who

744
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: that guy is because again, you don't want to mess

745
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: with the chemistry in that room. You have to have

746
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: guys that know the role, that can identify the role

747
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: and then also try and push other people in that room.

748
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: So it's a very interesting dynamic to be able to

749
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: look at this quarterback room right now and say, who

750
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: is that guy? You add I'm not shocked at all

751
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: they didn't do it in free agency because when you

752
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: get too many veteran guys around, people start looking over

753
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: the shoulder. You add a young guy, you kind of

754
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: slow bring them along, you can keep him on practice squad,

755
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: you can do all these things that it creates the flexibility.

756
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: But again, this organization is not going to make a

757
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: move until they have to. And that's my question about

758
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: the chemistry in that room. If you're thinking backup quarterback,

759
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: it still has to be about Kyler Murray. It's always

760
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: and only about your two hundred and thirty million dollar quarterbacks.

761
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: So you don't want to mess potentially with the chemistry

762
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: in that room. Right Drew, as a guy who spent

763
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: all those years in a quarterback room, I'm guessing that

764
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: as valuable as anything is, who is Kyler comfortable with?

765
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing a Colt McCoy and a David Blow

766
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: pretty much got a double thumbs up from Kyler, and

767
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: so they're going to roll with that for now. Yeah, exactly.

768
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean the psyche of your starting quarterback and even

769
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: when he's a little bit off, to be able to

770
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Speaker 1: have the veteran quarterback to backup pull him back in.

771
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: They've been established for two years now of having some

772
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: really good continuity. Having that rapport is vital because even

773
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: relating back to the old offense when Cliff was here. Hey, Kyler,

774
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: remember this reader this or what was going on? Remember

775
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: we saw this. Look, let's get to this even though

776
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: it's is a little bit differently now our terminology is

777
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: different or however they're going to do it. There's all

778
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: of these experiences you can draw on. And David Blow again,

779
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: he's a safety net for this organization at this point

780
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: in time because you saw what he put on tape

781
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: last year, that is the resume. Because I can't tell

782
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: you how many times in the sideline and the TV

783
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: cameras really didn't catch it. How many times Kyler Murray

784
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: last year during what was a roller coaster season for

785
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: him in terms of performance, right, how many times Colt

786
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: McCoy would come over and have a one on one

787
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: conversation with Kyler that only the two of them could

788
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: really have two guys who had played the position, right.

789
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: So I think that's valuable in a lot of ways.

790
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Colt McCoy, David Blow in that quarterback room

791
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: right now. But I think we're all in agreement that

792
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: there will be an addition. We just don't know whether

793
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: it's the draft or after the draft. In order to

794
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: get someone. As you said, Drew, it's a camp arm

795
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: and the who knows, maybe you do strike lightning in

796
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: the bottle. I mean you look at what the forty

797
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: nine ers did with brock Purty. I mean that was

798
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Speaker 1: a was the last pick of the draft, and all

799
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, Now, all of a sudden, he's QB

800
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Speaker 1: one in San Francisco. And the thing I like about

801
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Speaker 1: DTR Dorian Thompson Robinson, he has nearly fifty career starts.

802
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: He was a five year starter because of COVID. And

803
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: what did brock Purty come in with tons of college reps,

804
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: tons of college snaps and experience. Maybe you know it's

805
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: a copycat league. Maybe every team now scouring the college

806
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: ranks say, okay, which four year starter is here in

807
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: the draft that can be had on day number three?

808
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: Who we can potentially plug and play, especially in preseason games.

809
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: It's just nice to not have to worry about this

810
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: position with the number three overall pick, as so many

811
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Speaker 1: teams are here ahead of April twenty seven. It is

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals Red Tia Report presented by A Seat Keep

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Speaker 1: your Ticket to Great Seats. More as we continue here

814
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals radio network. I'm just shoving JWN

815
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: yard line of the Bengals owning the shotgun was five wide.

816
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: There's the snap they rushed four. There's a wine track

817
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: thrown near side, leaping two edit find out catching the

818
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: end zone put for the Ram touchdown odown. Peckham Junior

819
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Speaker 1: here in shide of the end zone, leaping high, bringing

820
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: it down. Matthew Stafford has just throwing a seventeen yard

821
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Speaker 1: touchdown pass for the Rams. They're taking a early lead

822
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty six. So all of our Easter

823
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: Sundays was briefly interrupted, especially if you're on social media.

824
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Speaker 1: The news that O b J not the New York Jets,

825
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: not the Los Angeles Rams, the Baltimore Ravens a one

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Speaker 1: year reported fifteen million dollars guaranteed as signing. Wow, the

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Speaker 1: deal with the potential to reach upwards of eighteen million

828
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: dollars one year, and all of a sudden, the speculations, well,

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Speaker 1: what does this mean for Lamar Jackson? Is he going

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00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: to sign his franchise tag or is he going to

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Speaker 1: sign long term? And then locally, Paul, it's just okay, Well,

832
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: another wide receiver off the market. Hey, the Cardinals do

833
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: have one in DeAndre Hopkins, who may or may not

834
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Speaker 1: be part of the future here in Arizona. Yeah, shocked

835
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: as we are that he did command that sort of money.

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Speaker 1: And remember when he came out and he tried to

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Speaker 1: get the message out that he said, I'm not looking

838
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: for twenty million a year. Well he almost reached that.

839
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Speaker 1: As it turns out. I'm not exactly sure who Baltimore

840
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: was bidding against who else ultimately was in the OBJ

841
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: sweepstakes at that point the salary process, but it's got

842
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: to be good news for DeAndre Hopkins, right. I don't

843
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: know if Baltimore was a viable option in terms of

844
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: trying to if you're looking to trade Baltimore is really

845
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: among the teams who bought that's one more big time

846
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: receiver off the market, so the supply is dwindled, and

847
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: they obviously put a high salary value on him as

848
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: opposed to Brandon Cooks and whatever he got in you know,

849
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: and that whole trail. So okay, Lisa, Cardinals have that

850
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: as a benchmark to site as we get closer and

851
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: closer to the draft, which is ultimately where I think

852
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: a d hop deal is consummated. I think so, perhaps

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Speaker 1: maybe even on Day one of the draft, especially if

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Speaker 1: you're looking for potential Day two compensation for DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: who is under contract for two more years, no guaranteed

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Speaker 1: money on those two years, and a cap hit a

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Speaker 1: thirty million and twenty six million over the next two

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Speaker 1: seasons if he does come back, and where that Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinal's uniform, something will be needed to be done in

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Speaker 1: order to lower that number and then just make things

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Speaker 1: a little bit more easy for every party involved in

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Speaker 1: this to get de hop back in the building. But again,

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Speaker 1: the expectation, Drew is that number ten will be playing

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Speaker 1: elsewhere and to me still a very talented wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: But everyone keeps pointing to the contract as a detriment

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Speaker 1: in this conversation. Yeah, well, I think again, we've talked

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Speaker 1: about the ups and downs of what that looks like,

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Speaker 1: and the team's got to feel comfortable. But again, they're

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Speaker 1: not going to make a move until they have to.

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Speaker 1: The draft becomes the ability to make a move when

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Speaker 1: they can shop true offers where they can get value

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Speaker 1: in return and take an honest assessment of what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And then these numbers of thirty million dollars and twenty

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Speaker 1: six million dollars and all of this you can balance

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Speaker 1: that out with Okay, well Odell got fifteen, and you

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Speaker 1: can make a very easy argument that at this point

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Speaker 1: in time, DeAndre Hopkins is far superior to him. So

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Speaker 1: and saying that there's still many suitors out there and

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Speaker 1: this will get resolved. I would imagine over the draft,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, I think we've got Paul what maybe

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Speaker 1: two more weeks of this d Hop uncertainty before we

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Speaker 1: And look, I think a lot of it has to

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Speaker 1: do with d Hop himself. There's the Cardinals, there's a

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Speaker 1: potential trade team out there, but it's what sort of

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Speaker 1: deal is he willing to broker? Remember the Cardinals gave

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Speaker 1: him permission him and is now agent that he added

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Speaker 1: to deem Hop team d Hop And so okay, what

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Speaker 1: is out there? And now now that OBJ has been

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Speaker 1: I would think, facilitate his deal. We'll see what happens

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