WEBVTT - Conversations About Concepts & Concerns With Hip Hop 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.320 Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.440 Sealer's Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.240 loaw glasses Malone. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:15.720 What's going on, big Dog? 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.280 Very little? Very little? 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.279 So I just got back from New York. How was that, 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:24.360 I'll be honest, man. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:26.599 The one thing about New York when it comes to 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:34.839 hip hop, the records themselves only capture probably the greatest records, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:41.080 like juicy like Cream, at least for me, juicy Cream. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.000 Why all the dessert references with the song titles coming 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:45.839 out of that town. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:52.160 Right shook ones the greatest records, you know, the message 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.840 that's only at the greatest level ten percent of the 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:02.560 energy that's in New York. Like when you get to 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:09.200 feel true hip hop energy in New York, it is 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:16.000 really unique compared to any place in this country. Actually, 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.600 we went to this event. It was at a gaming center, 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.520 so it was a it was a it was a lounge, 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.279 a gaming lounge where they had a bunch of computer 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.960 rigs where they could play video games. And there was 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.000 an event that they were throwing for a new death 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:39.600 Jam fighting game and people were competing against each other. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.920 It was a tournament and Redman was hosting it. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:50.120 And when I tell you, even though it was in 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.920 such a tech space, the hip hop energy was prevalent. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.800 Like they had this big wall where they had a 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:05.280 bunch of graffiti on the wall. But man like, it 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.200 wasn't that as much as the engagement with other human 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.240 beings in that space, Like it didn't matter that they 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.520 were all tecked out and geeked out. You could tell 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.640 they came from the same type of struggle as everybody else. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:24.600 And and when I tell you, man, that shit it 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:28.079 inspires me every time. Every time I go to New York, 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.760 I'm inspired in a different way when it comes to 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:38.200 hip hop. Even I was going to do a podcast 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:45.200 with Heineken and Esso a back few podcasts, and I 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:46.720 decided to catch the Sea train. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:47.960 Obviously this crip. 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:56.200 So I'm staying in Midtown right Hell's Kitchen, and I 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.720 catch the Sea train up to one hundred and twenty fifth, 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.160 an eighth right because I have to walk to one 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:03.560 hundred and twenty seventh in Lenox. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.880 Just standing. It was a brother I was talking to. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.080 I didn't even catch his name, but just standing talking 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.959 hip hop with a brother on the train. This mother 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.280 brothers walked up and I'm talking to brother's on my way, 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.320 you know they recognize me, but just to have a 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.320 real conversation about the space of hip hop. 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:24.600 The concern. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.959 It's it's like something you'll never like, people could never understand, 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.919 and no matter how much time you sit there, it'll 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.680 never be enough time for you to truly, you know, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.600 get the full experience of New York. I think people 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.240 who've lived in New York their whole life still don't 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.000 get the full experience of New York. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:49.320 It is a really remarkable place, Pete. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.120 And so like when you say it inspires you, like, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.640 how does that manifest Like how do you bring that 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:02.880 back to California and channel that through a completely different 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.040 style type of energy like all the rest, you know 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.800 what I mean, Like there's a difference in the artistic 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:11.960 expression side, you know what I mean. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:18.600 Well, ironically, one big thing for me is, you know, 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.160 everybody else is just trying to take advantage of hip hop. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.880 They're just trying to make some money. They just want 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.800 to gone shows and get paid to show up. Like 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.280 my mind since I first started, has always been I 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.719 want to give people a really great experience. Watching that 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.840 shows me that I can give an audience who wants 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.800 to support the things that I do, the experience I 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.240 want to give them, like I'm not as. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:49.120 Scared like before, and it helps a lot of other people. 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.840 When I show other people the things that other people 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.120 are able to pull off, they get more inspired. 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.000 I'm always inspired. 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:58.760 Like one of the biggest things coming up for me 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.919 in this series of records, I'm about to release this 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:06.840 rap revot right, which is kind of revolting against the 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:12.599 current pay the current pay scale of records, and you 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.360 know which means the medium at this point would have 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:20.839 to be at the end of my sword. I wanted 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:24.040 to start doing concerts right, and now the opportunities are 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.720 starting to be present. I think people are starting to 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.200 feel the energy. They starting to hear about different League songs, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.920 Ludacris leak the verse he did on this really great 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.159 record I got, and people are starting to see like, Okay, 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.479 Glasses is cooking something up. But like one of the 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.560 ideas I had, instead of doing a traditional concert at 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.360 a club, right, I wanted to do a backyard boogie, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.040 whereas like a barbecue effect, you can eat all the barbecue. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:49.080 Won't you know? 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.560 You might pay for the drinks the bar but it's 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:56.960 a true backyard boogie. That's the type of stuff I. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:57.360 Want to do. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.680 I want to do things on Krinshaw Boulevard, like like 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.520 on a special cruise night where you know, people get 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.120 to really come see the culture, like even at the 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.800 highest levels. I want to build a drag strip that 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.840 literally is a hip hop drag strip, you know, a 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:20.560 for quartermot drag strip. You'd have these big festivals or 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.320 hip hop and and automotive mix. And going to New 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.840 York and seeing that again reminds me of how possible 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.279 it is. So as far as what does it do 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.200 for me here, it allows me to see, like, oh, 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:38.480 I could cross my lifestyle that I've lived since I 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:43.239 was a little kid, right with this artistic expression, whether 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.440 it's the songs or dancing or anything else, the rap, whatever, 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.080 it just reinforces the possibilities to me. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:57.880 Goshcha, no seilings, gl my brother Peter Boss and now. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:10.400 Yeah, without a king? Say who I said no king 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:11.720 to that? We're a nation without a king? 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:19.120 I know, right went to the Northwest. Honestly, Pete Man, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:29.280 I promise you dog like you know, sometimes I worry 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.720 about hip hop. I worry to myself, like man, you know, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.680 no matter what. Right, when it comes to street urban culture, 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.000 you know, it's rooted in this pride of poverty. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:43.720 If you get what I mean when I say that. 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:49.880 It's like people think dickies is culture hip hop or 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.840 street urban culture in Los Angeles, and it's not. It's 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.360 how you crease the dickies and cuff the dickies. You 0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:00.480 start to treat these pants like they're seventy eighty dollars slacks, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:05.200 not twelve dollars work pants. It's not the converse itself, right, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:13.360 It's how you buy the thick laces and you put 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.480 them in there, how you lace the shoe, you know, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.200 how you flip the tongue down, colors, you know what 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:20.520 I mean. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:21.720 It's all of those things. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:25.400 It's how you wear things, and it's usually rooted and 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.800 taking so much pride and something so cheap and mediocre, 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.120 like we always talk about it, no different than spaghetti 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.160 or tacos or anything else. It's the pride you put 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.719 in something in theory that's suld be. 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.640 Low quality, and in a time where. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:47.160 It feels like the whole country, you know, even in 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.319 some of the most disenfranchised places, you know, they're trying 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:55.520 to overcompensate with buying things that are too expensive that 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.800 really don't need pride. Sure, if you get a pair 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.439 of Balenciaga's, there's no reason to put a thick laceism 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:08.119 them that it don't look good. And that definitely concerns 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:12.400 me about where hip hop is right, because it's like, 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.760 how does it thrive if it if you start to 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:23.640 cross it over with pop with pop stuff, Like it 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.200 was one thing when Dapper Dan, you know, used to 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.440 use Gucci print and make you know, custom things that 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.200 that is hip hop. But if you just go to 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:36.120 Gucci you buy a fucking Gucci outfit, that shit don't 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.240 got nothing to do with hip hop. 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:39.000 True. 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.240 We were having a good conversation about it, probably a 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.440 little earlier, and it was a lot of critigue for 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.280 it's a lot of critique for early eighties hip hop, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.200 you know, the first generation stuff people like Uzi, and 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.360 it's like we forgot that this thing is rooted in entertainment. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.680 You know, like if you go back to the seventies 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.400 and sixties, when you know black bands or white bands 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.240 would take you know, their designer would design something that 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.480 was one off for them. It looked like some of 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.720 Barry White's outfit was like somebody tore down the couch 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.079 and made the material and used the material from a 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.120 couch to make his jackets or his suits. Sure, it 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.079 was like it was a costume. You understood it was entertainment. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.920 Like when you look at some of the like it's 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.360 a great video I watch on YouTube all the time 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:39.440 with Ron Banks and the dramatics, and what you see 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.280 is what you getting. They're performing on Soul Train, and 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.440 you could tell that outfit was one off. You couldn't 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.640 go to you know, Macy's or J. C. Penny's or 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.480 wherever people was buying clothes at that time and buy 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.439 that outfit, and that is what kind of made them 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.480 a star. It was this unique look versus now hip 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.520 hop where I just saw recently about four years ago, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.599 everybody went to a war show and everybody had the 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:10.520 same tweater on like five people. So the only thing 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.199 that's separating people now in hip hop when it comes 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.160 to marketing, right is how much money they spent. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:19.760 Sure, it's like. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:30.440 The car don't really have a pizazz, is just really expensive. Yeah, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:35.839 and I think it's watering down hip hop. I think 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.960 it's watering down hip hop like it was one thing 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:43.240 when NWA wore Dicky's and T shirts and Chucks, nobody 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.719 else in the landscape or entertainment was dressing like that. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:56.520 It represented you know, it represented a movement of people 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:00.240 who didn't have a voice, who didn't have you know, 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.520 main state in mainstream. They didn't have a position in 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.760 mainstream for people to even see their stories or their struggles. 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:08.439 So it was unique. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.880 Then run DMC wearing tracks and shout out to jam 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:14.440 Master j Rest is so understanding. That's how the average 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.760 quintessential d boy dressed in New York and was like, 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.760 we're gonna wear this. We're not gonna have to wear 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:24.000 those costumes that let's say Grand Master Flash War or 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:28.240 Houdini shout out to Ecstasy and all the brothers. That 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.840 was dressing fresh. But it was like we still look 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.480 unique because this is not something that entertainment is wearing. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:40.160 It just reponed this group, this niche culture in New 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:45.720 York street urban culture his niche pocket. And now we've 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:50.600 gotten so spoil Like right now we look at yg 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:56.040 yg has so much custom stuff, Like I think he 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.520 may start with a basic but then the way it's fitting, 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.520 the way they flare it and do differ with things. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.480 It makes it like a costume trans entertainment. 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:06.680 It kind of almost like if you go back and 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.880 look at like the generation one degeneration two evolution of 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.480 like the Blues, So you have like I don't mean 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.840 like way early like Robert Johnson, but like like your 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:22.360 Muddy Waters and your bb King. You know, they kind 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.719 of wore just like a nice suit that a guy 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.360 with a night like. It was much more relatability across 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.720 the medium, early hip hop. Same thing. By the time 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.880 thirty years later you get to buddy guy, You've got 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.840 this huge band behind him, he's got this glittered out 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.480 suit and sunglasses and that, like all the rest of it, 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:46.360 it becomes it's like we've will you lose? Like like 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:52.040 the relatability element gets worn off to a degree and 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:57.800 has to be exchanged out for you know, an entertainment, 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.000 just just anything entertaining. And I think that'll also goes 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:05.800 to as you expand your market, commonalities within the consumers 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:10.160 diminish as it broadens. So the one thing that is 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:14.280 more common for the consumer is you know, something extremely 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:20.000 just like louder essentially for lack of a better word. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.120 But I think I'm still okay with that, Like, I agree, 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:31.880 you do for sake commonality, for uniqueness, but now we're 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.400 not even going to uniqueness. We're just going too expensive. 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.760 That's what I'm saying. I think that's what happened before. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:42.240 It wasn't even like I mean, it was unique, sure, 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.960 but it was just only unique because expensive stuff is 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.920 a little bit more unique because there's less of it 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.280 and it's expensive. 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.480 Yeah, but I don't know. Again, it's like you couldn't 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.360 go to a store and buy what they had. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:55.200 True. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.800 True, it was still a costume creator. Like Elvis stuff 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.080 was very much a costume. Yeah, Little Richard stuff is 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:08.560 very much a costume. It was created. Now it's just douchey. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.720 M Like like Elton John wasn't douchey. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:19.240 Sure, sure it's pretentious. Now it's fun. It's weird, but 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.840 it's like a weird bizarre. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.680 That's the word I'm looking for. Yeah, it's John wasn't pretentious. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.360 It was like, hey, I'm an entertainer, I'm centric, I'm 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.640 trying exentually. I stare at me. Yeah, you couldn't go 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.600 to Gucci or Louis Vuitton and buy his outfit. It 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:39.520 was like, you know, somebody made this to exaggerate who 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:40.640 I am and what. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:41.960 My brand is as an entertainer. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.080 Yeah, now is it don't even matter what your brand 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.800 is as an entertainer. It's like, let's go by the 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.880 most expensive stuff, put it on, and it separates you 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:58.080 from you know, the mainstream American person or even the 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:59.960 cultural person you supposed to represent. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.520 And I think you lose a lot in that. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.120 Yeah, I agree, I ain't. A lot of it comes 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:12.960 from the fact that, quite honestly, not a lot of 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.720 people are putting out any shit that's better than the 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.040 other shit that everybody else is putting out very few 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:21.400 examples exceptions. I mean, so a lot of consumers don't like, no, 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.120 this is fine, that's fine, whatever the hell. Well, that 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.560 guy's draped in money, so he must be better because 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.360 clearly more people like what he's doing than that guy shit. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:30.680 So I just like that guy shit. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:42.000 Ironically, I can't even. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.480 Like now when I dress like in the traditional West Coast, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:48.560 it's just unique. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:50.560 Ain't that crazy? 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.760 Like this is how far we got away from it 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.359 to where it's like if I wear a penalton, some cutoff. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.200 Dickies and some vans. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:04.200 Out and I'm talking about if I'm walking through Los Angeles, 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.720 if I'm walking through New York, I just stand out. 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.439 Because nobody wears that anymore. Like I don't see who 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.440 were wearing that in LA when I'm out there. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.720 Are we to the point where if you wear a 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.760 Dickey suit and some chucks, if they're tailored in, you 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.320 kind of people like, who is that nigga? 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.440 That that probably would work, yeah. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.520 Cause no one has worn that in a long time. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.320 I don't see it, like I go, like I'm in 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.639 I've touched all the corners of the city when I'm 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.840 in town, just passing through just to get if not 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:38.680 to get food, to see different people, whatever the hell, 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.080 I don't see anybody like standing behind somebody in line 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.800 getting a getting lunch anywhere in the city is wearing 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:46.400 a Dickie suit. 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:47.000 You know. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:52.520 It's it's it's it's like it's it's almost dipping into 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.520 like the vintage world, so to speak. Not that if 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.320 you bought it from a vintage store, but it's like 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:03.280 a vintage is more look mmm like I don't see 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:06.120 like like like because the culture is driven by the youth, 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:10.480 I don't see like eighteen nineteen year old kids wearing 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.800 Dickie suits like out. 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.959 But that's so crazy that something so culturally niche at 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:25.920 one time has now turned into very much a costume. 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:27.520 It was, yeah, it. 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.080 Went from it went from a uniform to people living 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.680 the street life in southern California to a costume. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.680 Yeah, but it was still it was still a fashion 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:44.920 trend with time parameters like all other ones. M because 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:49.080 it wasn't the trend in nineteen seventy five probably or 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:49.640 whatever year. 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:58.600 You know, Yeah, I could dig that. 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.000 I think think that's part of something also that hurts, 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.359 like hip hop culture insofar as it transfers into cars now, 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:12.560 not only like the what's the term, like the modularity 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.800 of old cars, Like they had basic bones. You could 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.000 do a lot to them, but it would look really cool, 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.320 Like the car that was a basic cheap car that 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.240 was just like an any American car from nineteen sixty eight, 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.160 nineteen seventy one, whatever, all those years, like probably twenty 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:31.000 five years of them. We're great looking cars. So if 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.359 you buy one that's twenty years old because it's for 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.760 sale for a ham sandwich, you can do cool things 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:37.960 with that's gonna look good. 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.480 But that's the cornerstone of a dunk. That's the cornerstone 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:42.439 of a lowrider. 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.199 I understand it. But that only could exist in a 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.639 time frame that was specific. Because if you do that 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.320 now and you want to go buy a nineteen ninety 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:58.280 nine Honda Civic, that's buying a nineteen sixty eight Chevy 0:19:58.400 --> 0:19:59.760 in nineteen eighty seven. 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.479 Well, you know what that You know what the cars 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:07.240 is now? It's the ninety six and Pola. The ninety 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:10.440 six and Pola is the classic right now. Still you 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.320 could buy cheap right now, you still could buy those 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:15.520 anywhere between five and fifteen thousand. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:20.040 Still weird Monti Carlo with that tire thing on the 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.280 back whatever from the late nineties whatever. 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:24.959 That one hasn't quite hit you. I don't know if 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.440 that's going to be a classic. The two thousand and 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.000 eight Dodge Challenger, the two. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.080 Thousand and eight Dodge Challenger, is it classic? 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.159 It's funny, it's going to be a classic. 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.800 I'm giving you, like how you give me financial tips, 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.840 I'm giving you advice on cultural phenomenon. 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:41.600 I mean, I can say, yeah, I can see that. 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.800 But if I was you, the ninety six and Pola 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:47.960 is the one to buy, Like you could buy the 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.320 ninety six and Pola right now, they're still low like 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:52.200 the G bodies. 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.359 So what are you doing to it, though, is the question. 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.639 You can have it looked like five or four boys. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:59.359 No, No, you could stock it back up. 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:03.840 You could redo the stock interior, repaint the car backstock color, 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.000 you know, put some you don't even have to put 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:06.399 in the wheels. 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:07.480 It could actually be stocked. 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:08.360 Uh. 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:09.959 The only thing I would do, I would put an 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:14.280 LS in it, m LSS engine, you know what I mean, 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.800 the kind of the next generation of Chevrolet engines once 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:19.560 you got out of the LTS, which is in the 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:26.160 NPOLLA sure, and you could do that stock and ten 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.320 years that car is a thirty thousand dollars car if 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:28.720 not soon. 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.479 But like in so far as it applies to, like 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:40.199 the hip hop cultural applications to car life and like 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.280 lower tier economic demographics, like you know, you could custom 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.920 up a car that you got for not a lot, 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.440 do things to it to change it that don't cost 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:52.680 a lot, but they cost some. Yeah, Like what how 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:57.919 does that customization move forward? As cars over generation? At 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.000 least in my opinion seems kind of a common opinion. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:01.919 Cars don't look as cool. There's been a handful of 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.439 cars lately that looks cool, but there was a period 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:06.600 of time where cars didn't look so cool when they 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:07.200 were coming up there. 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.400 No, yeah, yeah, that's probably the issue with the two thousands. 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:15.360 But shout out to Mopart for getting it right. Mopark 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.399 went through a change where they got it right. You 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:22.719 I mean Dodge Chevrolet. I mean you have the Supersport. 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.679 It's like a supersport, sit Dan, that's going to be something. 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:27.320 It's a couple of cars. 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:33.560 Christ or three hundred, we'll have that, or it's too soon. 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.120 No, that ain't gonna happen. It's not that kind of car. 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:41.640 The Magnum, the Magnum, you could buy the Magnum's cheap, 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.240 Like I would buy a Magnum and put the new 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:47.919 Challenger front end on it. That's gonna be something. Okay, 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:52.879 the Magnum is gonna be something. I think Dodds nailed 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.760 it the most. Camaro, the Chevy Camaros. You know when 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.680 it gets to the two thousand tens, you know, when 0:22:57.680 --> 0:22:59.720 they come out with the two ten's, that's gonna be. 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:06.520 Something cool. But what's funny is. 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.080 When you build an Impala, a low rider the one 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.040 you want is the most base model in Pola. You 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:19.520 don't want the supersport. Sure, it's not cool to have 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.760 the bucket seats, and you're Impoala. I gets something like 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:24.399 people cut them in, they low ride them, but they 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:28.520 don't have the same value like people kind of ask 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.360 the buget seats, you want the bench seat. You don't 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.560 want the floor shifter in that low rider because we've 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:43.639 been conditioned. So it's that pride of again taking something 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:47.280 really cheap and turning it into something really nice because 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.480 you started off so little and you're right and now 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.679 building Impala, like even building my Cadillac, my Lacab, my convertible, 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:57.240 it's expensive. 0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:00.440 I'll be in that course seventy thousand dollars that is. 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.000 That would be almost like I mean, Christ, it would 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:11.439 be like buying because now they're you know, there's like 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:16.800 that arc there's like shit's new, so it's expensive. Then 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.920 it's old so it's not expensive. Then it's really old, 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:21.680