1 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: The show goes on. This is the official show on 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: the fish Stripes podcast channel. I am Eli Sussmick, the 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: managing editor of fish Stripes Work. We cover your Miami 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Marlins every day in our own way. This is as 5 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: intense as it gets for me. A smack dab in 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: the middle of sixteen consecutive days without a Marlins off day, 7 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: a whole lot of stuff that just happens, a whole 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: lot to prepare for on our ends. The team is 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: riding high at the moment. Another series win coming off 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: of over the weekends, entering May second with a twelve 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: and nine record, right there in the projected playoff spot 12 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: for this Marlins team, with a nice, seemingly favorable series 13 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: upcoming against the Diamondbacks. As usual with every new series, 14 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna have our serious preview article by Nicole Cahill. 15 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna have our serious preview and predictions live stream 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: fish Stripes Live presented by Loop That's on YouTube, Twitter, 17 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: and Facebook. Find us there special guests coming up on 18 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: Monday Night. It is John Morales, the accomplished meteorologist, a 19 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: huge Marlins fan. That's gonna be a lot of fun 20 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: checking in all the Marlins about one eighth of the 21 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: way through this season and playing really good baseball. So 22 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you through it relatively quickly, of course, 23 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: on these Monday episodes, going through what happens over the 24 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: weekends and all those games, what stuck out, what is 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: relevant moving forward from that, handing out my Fish Prospects 26 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: of the Week honors to both a hitter and a 27 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: pitcher and the Marlins organization. And on this show, I 28 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: want to dive a little bit into revisiting the Jazzism 29 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Junior for Zach Gallon trade that was intriguing at the 30 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: time and it has not disappointed with how it has 31 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: worked out for both sides, as those two players, Jazz 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Chishm Junior and Zach Gallen are poised to meet on 33 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: the field for the first time since they were swapped 34 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: for one another three years ago. Some other miscellaneous things 35 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: at the back end of this pod as well. It's 36 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: a loaded show and it's gonna be a quick show, 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: so buckle up. On the other side of this break, 38 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: we go into the small Pods section. We are fresh 39 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: off a three game series between the Marlins and the Mariners, 40 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: the first meeting between these teams in five years at 41 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: Lone Depot Park. This was so on Friday, Marlins took 42 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: the series opener eight to six, one of the higher 43 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: scoring games for the Marlins all season long. All the 44 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: scoring for the Marlins came very early in this one. 45 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Eight runs in the first three innings to whip around 46 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Man Brash, who was very hyped pitching prospect entering this one. 47 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: Really up and down the lineup. A lot of great 48 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: production from the Marlins in this and it started with 49 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: Jorge Hilaire in the first ending of the game hitting 50 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: one of the longest home runs of the post Gian 51 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: Carlos stanton Era, Oh whoa, how far is that one 52 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: gonna go? Poor Hey Solaire with they lash to left 53 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: center field that got the scoring started. By the time 54 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: this one was done, every single member of the Marlins 55 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: starting lineup got on base. Everybody except for Joey Wendel 56 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: got at least one hit in this game. Very convincing win, 57 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: and then at the very end made it a little 58 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: bit closer to comfort than you would like sewn. Armstrong 59 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: was brought in to try to close the door with 60 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: a five round lead, and he wasn't even able to 61 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: finish the game in this so as we look where 62 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: Sehn Armstrong seems to be on a very short leash 63 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: with this team in terms of how long he's going 64 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: to stick around. This was a really disappointing particular game 65 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: from him to almost let the lead slip away, even 66 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: though it had felt so comfortable for most of that 67 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: game up to that point. Moving on to Saturday, another 68 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Marlins win, Another tight Marlins win by the final score 69 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: of three to one. Storyline entering this one was the 70 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: lineup decision by Don Mattingly, going with an all right 71 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: handed lineup facing Robbie Ray, the reigning American League Say 72 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Young Award winner, who hadn't been especially early in the year. 73 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: So to contort your entire lineup just to deal with 74 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: that matchup, and for the second time in three days, 75 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: they had done the same thing against Patrick Corbyn on Thursday, 76 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: to go all right handed and prioritizing platooning over putting 77 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: forward your most talented lineup. It was unpopular from me 78 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: in particular, I did not like it. For a lot 79 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: of this game it looked like they made a mistake. 80 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: Robby Ray was pretty dominant through the first four innings. Finally, 81 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: in the fifth they did break through for what was 82 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: all three of their runs. Brian Anderson, I believe, was 83 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: the one who ignited that rally. We'll get to him 84 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: in a few more moments, how he's doing. So they 85 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: score all three in that ending. They only get one 86 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: extra base hit in that game against Robby Ray, and 87 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: it was Brian Anderson's double. That was enough because Hasius Lozardo. 88 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: This was his fourth start of the season, and the 89 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: third time of those four that he had been awesome. 90 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: Six innings, only two hits, one run, allowed, five strikeouts 91 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: for Lozardo, the first time in his major league career 92 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: that he had picked up the win in consecutive starts, 93 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: just like he had previous outing well, just one run 94 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: in this one. Who was it too? To the Mariners 95 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: in the third? It was Dylan Moore of all people 96 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: at the very bottom of their lineup, getting a solo 97 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: shot in this one was good. And the middle relievers 98 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: were good as well, Anthony Bass and Cole Solcer. They 99 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: have not not even that quietly. I think it's a 100 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: lot of people are recognizing how immensely valuable both those 101 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: relievers have been. Easily the two best relievers in the 102 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: Marlins bullpen to this point in the season. Soulcer and 103 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: fast they pitched. The seventh and the eighth. Bender picks 104 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: up his second save in as many days, and it 105 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: is rocky again as most of his outings have been, 106 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: but he gets it done, his sixth save of the season. 107 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: Those three runs they scored in the middle innings held 108 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: up even without the services of Jazzism Junior in this. 109 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: Joey Wendle got a full day off. Jy Sue Sanchez 110 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: only had one at bat off the bench in this. 111 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: So the decision worked out, and that extended the Marlins 112 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: winning streak at the time to seven straight games, the 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: longest one that they had had since twenty sixteen. Leads 114 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: us into Sunday. Marlin's already playing with how would you 115 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: call it, playing kind of doing better than you could 116 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: have even hoped, already to have won the first two 117 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: games of this series, just getting greedy, I guess going 118 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: for the sweep on Sunday. Bark at the park day 119 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: Sandy Alcantra on the mounds. You know his history pitching 120 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: at home, especially on Sundays, and he was not his 121 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: usual Sunday self. For Sandy, he worked really deep into 122 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: this game, and he almost made it through six quality 123 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: innings if you just skip ahead to that point on 124 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: a day where Sandy's velocity was down a little bit, 125 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: his command was down, and he'd just been hit relatively 126 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: hard in this game to this point, even to the 127 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: sixth inning. Instead of going to the bullpen, which was 128 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: in reasonably good shape in terms of available arms, Don 129 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Mattingly tries to get Sandy through that sixth inning and 130 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: he allows a three run backbreaking home run to Julio Rodriguez. 131 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: Since this superstar prospect who had gone off to a 132 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: slow start to his major league career, and this was 133 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: his one breakthrough moment, hitting a three run shot to 134 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: left center field against Sandy. The final score in this 135 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: one was the Marlins three Mariners seven. That they trailed. 136 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: The Marlins trailed this one almost all throughout the game, 137 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: as money as five runs at one point before closing 138 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: it late, and they did have some opportunities late after 139 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: struggling against Logan gilbert outstanding start to his season, He 140 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: ends up getting the win, going five and two thirds. 141 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: They finally break through against him towards the end of 142 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: his outing, Brian Anderson again with his first home run 143 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: of the regular season. He had done a lot of 144 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: good for this Marlins team to this point in the season, 145 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: and finally over the fence power no doubter off of 146 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: Gilbert that finally got the Marlins on the scoreboard. After that, 147 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: they had their opportunities against the Seattle bullpen. Got hits 148 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: off of every single reliever that they faced in that pen, 149 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: But aside from Ba's home run, not a whole lot 150 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: going offensively that really mattered. There are just a lot 151 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: of singles. John Birdie a two hit game, Garret Cooper 152 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: a two hit game, and jorgees Hilaire at the very end, 153 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: when it was already kind of out of reach, a 154 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: solo home run, his second of the series, just to 155 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: make the final score a little bit more respectful. This 156 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: saw the return of Jazz and as we learned doubt 157 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: he was dealing with a stomach bug the previous two days. 158 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: Good to see that he's healthy and that really sets 159 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: the stage well for the second part of this episode 160 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: now that we know for sure he's going to be 161 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: available and look for an upcoming article on Fish Stripes 162 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: about the first one hundred and sixty two games of 163 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: his major league career. Now that he reached that particular milestone. 164 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: There was some plain old bad luck going against the 165 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Marlins in this. If you just look at the quality 166 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: of contact they had versus the results, you would have 167 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: expected better results from what they had done. And that's 168 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: just how it goes. Over the course of the year. 169 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: You have a bunch of games like this as well 170 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: as you have a bunch of games were the team 171 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: overchieves in that department. So it happens they did win 172 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: the series, just as they'd won the previous two series, 173 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: and they do it against a pretty good Mariners team. 174 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Looking down on the farm some up and down stuff 175 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: from the Marrons minor league affiliates. It was a relatively 176 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: good week for both individual star prospects and for the 177 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: affiliate teams themselves. On the pitching side, my Fish Prospects 178 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: of the week's election is right hander Brian hoeing here 179 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two given the move up to Pensacola, 180 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: and he had arguably his best start of his minor 181 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: league career to this point, seven scoreless endings, allowing only 182 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: two hits on Sunday, getting a win. To that point 183 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: in the season, he only allowed one earned run in 184 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: his first four starts, and that was so convincing that 185 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: he got promoted again up to Jacksonville just one month 186 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: into the regular season. Highly unusual. Well, this guy, who 187 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: had been the best only improbable star of the Pensacola 188 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: rotation to the early to this point in the season, 189 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: gets to move up to Triple A, where the plan 190 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: seems to be that he'll be continuing to start as 191 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: well with that new level. So, as first reported by 192 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: arm Leaden of Just Baseball, Brian Hoeing moving up in 193 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: the organization, potentially poised to break through to the majors 194 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: by the end of this year. And on the offensive side, 195 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: my hitter of the week is going to be Griffin Conine, 196 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: mister Marlin's son in Double A Pensacola. After finishing up 197 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: there last year a lot of struggles towards the end 198 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: of last season in the beginning of this year, it 199 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: finally turned on for him this past week, hitting four 200 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: to twenty nine in their past series, but also having 201 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: consecutive games at one point without striking out. As we 202 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: know that has been Griffin Conine's concerning trait with him 203 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: is just both the selectivity that he has and swing 204 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: and miss that he has. He has a strikeout rate 205 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: historically that I have a hard time seeing playing at 206 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: the major league level, But a step in the right 207 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: direction this week to have several games in there where 208 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: it was consistently putting the bat on the ball against 209 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: different matchups. So his overall numbers this year looking a 210 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: little bit better than they did at double A in 211 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: his first taste of it in twenty twenty one. Somebody 212 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: to keep an eye out because we know all about 213 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: his power and even his defense in the corner outfield spots, 214 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: especially in this series, was extremely solid. Congrats to Brian 215 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: Hoeing Griffin conine my Fish Prospects of the Week for 216 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: the week of April twenty fifth. On July thirty first, 217 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, seemingly out of nowhere, the Marlins and the 218 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: Arizona Diamondbacks struck a deal, a rare one for one 219 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: trade of very young, very talented players, Zach Gallen going 220 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: to the Desert in exchange for shortstop Jazz Chisholm Junior. 221 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: Very spicy deal, an unusual challenge trade for two organizations 222 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: at the time that felt they still had a pretty 223 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: long way to go in making themselves contending teams. Nearly 224 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: three full years later, thirty three months give or take, 225 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: those guys are going to meet on the field for 226 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: the first time on Monday Night in the series opener 227 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: between the Marlins and the Diamondbacks. And that trade has 228 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: been every bit as intriguing as looked at the initial time. 229 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's just put it bluntly for you. Both 230 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: those guys have panned out, and it's we don't know 231 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: the final version of these guys. It's still so early 232 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: in their major league careers. It is apparent that they 233 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: are starting caliber players at the very least and potentially 234 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: for many years to come. We start with Jazz, as 235 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: I had mentioned during the small pop portion, one hundred 236 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: and sixty two games exactly into his major league career, 237 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: he has a two forty six three h two four 238 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: thirty nine slash line, almost precisely a league average hitter, 239 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: a little below average in terms of getting on base, 240 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: a little above average in hitting for power. He's a 241 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: great base runner. Yeah, Honestly, even the numbers I feel 242 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: are a little deceiving. He's even better than I think 243 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: the results have been in that department. When of the 244 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: truly elite sprinters, both in terms of stolen bases, in 245 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: terms of taking extra bases. That's a big weapon for him. 246 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: He says twenty four home runs to this point of 247 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: his career, twenty nine stolen bases. He strikes out a lot, 248 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: of course, that's the big concern with him, is that 249 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of swing and miss to his game. 250 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: There have been I've seen some lofty comparisons. We know 251 00:14:55,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: that he likens himself to Ken Griffy Junior the ballot, 252 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer who had six hundred plus home runs. 253 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: If you want to be realistic, the key difference between 254 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: them is all the swing and miss that Jazz has 255 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: in his game. Even this year, where he's off to 256 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: a great start, he is off to every bit as 257 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: good a start as he was in twenty twenty one, 258 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: if not even slightly better. But he is striking out 259 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: in nearly thirty percent of his played appearances. That's even 260 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: by modern standards. That's that's high. That's in bad territory. 261 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: He's doing a much better job this year committed to 262 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: last year in lifting the ball and letting his power play. 263 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: He is great quality of contact when he's fully healthy. 264 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: There's not much doubt about that. So as long as 265 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: he's elevating the ball at the right angles, right trajectories, 266 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: he's going to get very good results. So I've read 267 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: you his career stats overall to this point, but I 268 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: think it is extremely reasonable to expect those results to 269 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: be even better this year. And of course that's only 270 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: part of the story. Jazz is one of the most 271 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: electric personality, is one of the most marketable players in baseball. 272 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: That has become very apparent. He just very organically jumble 273 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: rumbles into these situations on the fields, off the fields, 274 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: a mix of both, and he does it in a 275 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: way that it's really hard not to like him. The 276 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: way that he engages with fans, the way that he 277 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: engages with who is with on the field, the other players, 278 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: the umpires, the fans he sees that games. It's it's 279 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: really He's a great character for the game, somebody who 280 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: I think even the Marlins would have to admit, has 281 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: raised the profile the whole organization because of just really 282 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: mundane things that he does that get a lot of 283 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: people talking and a lot of people interested. There is 284 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: certainly a dollar value to be attached to that. I 285 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it is. The Marlins are fortunate 286 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: about it because they made this deal trading from a strength. 287 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: Starting pitching has been a strength of its organization for 288 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: about three years now, twenty nineteen. I feel like I'm 289 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: going to do an article about this pretty soon. That 290 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: was in the middle of that season it became apparent 291 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: that they were building up a very promising collection of arms. 292 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: They traded from that depth that they had to fill 293 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: the middle infield spot where there were a lot of questions. 294 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: They must be feeling pretty happy that they did to 295 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: this point, considering where they are at this particular time, 296 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: where Jazz is kind of locked in for a very 297 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: prominent role in their lineup for the foreseeable future. The hope, 298 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: of course, at the time was that he'd be there 299 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: every day shortstop. As time has gone on, that's looking iffy. 300 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: He's a good second baseman, and we've seen the highlights 301 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: of him. If you just watch the highlights, you might 302 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: think he's the best second baseman alive. Jesz diving and 303 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: makes the play that one taking it for right field, 304 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: uh diving Jim Thereby. Jessom Junior, I don't know about that, 305 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: but he does make some good plays out there, and 306 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: I think all the metrics agree. He's above average at 307 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: second base with the athleticism that he has, with the 308 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: hands that he has in the reaction time for whatever reason, 309 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: when he plays shortstop, it doesn't translate exactly the way 310 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: that you'd want to. And that's why this year he 311 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: has barely played any shortstop at all, if I have 312 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: that correct, He's played no endings at shortstop so far 313 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty two, after being kind of forced 314 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: into that role quite a bit last year in twenty 315 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: twenty one. So he's looking like the second basement of 316 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: the future for this Marlins team, and he's looking like 317 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: very likely All Star this year, as long as he 318 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt. Knock on Wood, we know that has 319 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: been that was an issue for him at times in 320 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, trying to balance that, reining in his 321 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: energy in order to use it efficiently and use it 322 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: safely on the field. Thinking about all the plausible directions 323 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: that Jazz's career could have gone beginning in mid twenty nineteen, 324 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: what we're getting now in reality is on the high 325 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: end of value. For the Marlins. It is working out 326 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: very well from their perspective. What doesn't get enough attention 327 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: is the other side of the deal, and Zach Allen 328 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: a breakout year in the first half of twenty nineteen, 329 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: a viscerating triple A competition developing in every aspect as 330 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: a pitcher with a deep repertoire, with more fastball velocity 331 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: than they had thought he would have when they originally 332 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: acquired him. Of course, in the Marcel Ozuna trade, he'd 333 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: broken through to the big leagues just the month before 334 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: that they traded him. The early returns of that were solid, 335 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: if not good, legitimately good to a pretty easy transition 336 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: to the major leagues, as was the case at the time, 337 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: and right after the deal, he was kind of inefficient 338 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: with his pitches as a starter or too many walks 339 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: and the run. There was that disparity between the run 340 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: prevention and the peripherals. You look at what's happened since then, 341 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: and he's been pretty impressive in twenty twenty. During the 342 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: shortened year, maybe you were two consumed with the Marlins 343 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: winning to be following it, but Gallen was in the 344 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: Cy Young conversation for a good chunk of the twenty 345 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: twenty shortened season. He fell off a little towards the 346 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: end of the year and then in twenty twenty one 347 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: had not all progresses linear, so he had a bit 348 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: of a step back. In twenty twenty one, dealt with 349 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: a pair of injuries, so he was limited to about 350 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: three quarters of the season in the dvac's rotation, and 351 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: the results were certainly the worst that they had been 352 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: at all to this point in his career. And then 353 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: so far here in twenty twenty two, he is off 354 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: to an awesome start. Through three outings, he has allowed 355 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: just one earned run for the Diamondbacks, essentially the ace 356 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: of their rotation on a team that also has Madison Bumgarner. 357 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: It's Gallon that is the one that they would probably 358 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: go to when everything is on the line, or I 359 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: should say the one that they're going to lean on 360 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: most heavily over the course of the regular season. We 361 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: know mad bum is the premiere playoff performer and all 362 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: that stuff, but Gallon's been great so overall for his 363 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: career in the majors, a three point three to one er, 364 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: a three point three nine since he got traded to 365 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: the d Backs. When you convert that and adjusted for 366 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: league averages, it's at up one twenty eight ERA plus 367 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: twenty eight percent better than a league average, allowing one 368 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: point two base runners per ending. That's also slightly better 369 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: than the league average. Yeah, the walk grade is still 370 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: slightly higher than you would like it, but he does 371 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: an amazing job at just suppressing quality contact for a 372 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: lot of his career. Again, with twenty twenty one kind 373 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: of being the exception if you look before that and 374 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: what he's done so far early in twenty twenty two, 375 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: he has a unique skill to just control that balls 376 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: and play from becoming too much trouble for his career. 377 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: A two seventy six batting average on balls and play, 378 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: whereas the league average is in the high two nineties. 379 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: That's something that each year of his career seems to 380 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: be somewhat repeatable, and part of his skill set to 381 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: control that quality of contact a deep pitch mix. As 382 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: I said, like depending on the day that you see him, 383 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: it could be his fastball command, it could be his 384 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: change up, it could be his breaking ball. That is 385 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: the key to him. He is a full fledged starting pitcher. 386 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: He has started every game of his major league career, 387 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: and that seems poised to continue the easiest way I 388 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: think To encapsulate his performance is to compare him to 389 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: a current Marlin who happens to be going up against 390 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: him on Monday Night, Pablo Lopez. I pulled up their 391 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: stats dating back to twenty nineteen across the board astonishingly similar. 392 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: Pablo has fifty six starts during that time, Gallen has 393 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: fifty three. As I mentioned, Gallon missed some time during 394 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: injury with injuries, and we know that Pablo has had 395 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: these recurring shoulder injuries that have limited his time, so 396 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: the sample sizes are almost identical, just six endings of 397 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: difference between them. Gallon has earned run average is better, 398 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: as I said, three three one overall including his Marlin days, 399 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: and for Pablo it's a one fourteen eer plus fourteen 400 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: percent better than the league average, whereas Gallon since the 401 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: trade has been twenty eight percent. So Gallon better in 402 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: that regard, but not working quite as deep into his outings, 403 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: issuing a lot more walks, but also doing a better 404 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: job at controlling the quality of contact against him. The 405 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: strikeout numbers are pretty impressive when you balance the strikeout 406 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: percentage in the wall percentage once that that I like 407 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: is strikeout rate minus walk rate, So the percentage of 408 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: hitters that you're gaining by whipping them as opposed to 409 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: handing out free passes. Just doing some simple subtraction from 410 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: those two numbers. So for Gallon, it's a twenty seven 411 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: and a half percent strikeout rate, nine and a half 412 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: percent walk rate, eighteen percent strikeout minus walk rate. For Pablo, 413 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 1: fewer strikeouts twenty four point one percent, way fewer walks 414 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: only six point two percent. You do the substraction, and 415 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: his strikeout minus walk rate is seventeen point nine, Gallon 416 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: at eighteen, Pablo identical essentially at seventeen point nine. So 417 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: that just shows you one of the pitcher independent things 418 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: that they do. And between the two, Pablo has had 419 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: better luck keeping the ball in the ballpark, but they're 420 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: whereas Gallon is pitching in some environments where it's harder 421 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: to do that. So you're just for that and it's 422 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: pretty similar as well, although Pablo has a slight edge 423 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: in that department. This is just a way of saying that, 424 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: who exactly did the Marlins get rid of? What kind 425 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: of role would Galen have on the Marlins at that 426 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: time if they didn't trade him? And I think I 427 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: would say he is would be a co number two 428 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: starter for this team. You'd still put him behind Sandy. 429 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: I think Sandy's stuff, his ability to work deep into games, 430 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: his durability, his intangibles. I think Sandy is still a 431 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: superior pitcher to Galon at this point. And if you're 432 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: projecting forward, those two are almost identical in age for 433 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: what it's worth. But is Gallon better than Pablo worse 434 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: than Pablo? I'd say almost on the exact same level. 435 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: And they're both, as I said, off too great starts 436 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: this year, not really one better than the other. To 437 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: this point. They are neck and neck those type of players. 438 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: Would Gallon be expendable, I think that would. That's incorrect 439 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: to say when people look back on it and try 440 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: to paint it as a clear win for the Marlins. 441 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: That's under the assumption that the Marlins had five six 442 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: starters of Gallen's ilk lined up and ready to go. 443 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: And even now that's not the case. Gallen would be 444 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: a fixture in this rotation right now. Imagine Gallon instead 445 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: of Eliezer. The disparity between those two Eliezer Hernandez Is 446 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: is huge, frankly, and as high as you feel about 447 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: somebody waiting in the wings like Max Meyer and Edward 448 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: Cabrera it is it would be very irresponsible to project 449 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: either of them to be as good as Gallen right away, 450 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: or even to be much better than him once are 451 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: they really settle in to the big leagues. That is 452 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: a big ask because Gallen is a firmly above average 453 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: starting pitcher who at this rate on a DBX team 454 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: without many other great individual performances. To this point of 455 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: the season, Gallen is a possible All Star as well, 456 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: just like Jazz is for the first time this year. 457 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: So a very good player, one who, as I said, 458 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: looks like he was reaching a special level in twenty twenty. 459 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: But I think at this point you don't have to 460 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: worry about him being a perennial Cy Young contender. There 461 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: are some limitations with his commands that I don't think 462 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: are going to be ever ironed out on a start 463 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: to start basis, but his floor is extremely high, so 464 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: he's a different type of player than Jazz. Higher floor, 465 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: slightly lower ceiling. But both these guys in a part 466 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: of their career where their teams can hold on to 467 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: them for several more years without even having to worry 468 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: about it. And I think Gallon could age pretty gracefully, 469 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: knowing that health is always the big wild card when 470 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: talking about pictures. He I think he's just been a 471 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: little unlucky in that regard, and he has some of 472 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: the attributes that are going to age pretty well for 473 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. That trade, anyway, is looking like a 474 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: win win for them. Gallon doesn't have the marketability then 475 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: that Jazz does, the magnetism that Jazz has all right, 476 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: all right, So I think the Marlins should be feeling 477 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: very happy about this, But Dbacks fans can hold their 478 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: heads up high as well. Gallen is part of their 479 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: team moving in the right direction, just like the Marlins 480 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: trying to bounce back from what was a very frustrating 481 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty season. They not only play three times this 482 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: upcoming week, but then they meet in Arizona the following week. 483 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: The way the schedule lines up, Gallen won't be part 484 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: of that second series in Arizona. This is the one 485 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: shot for Jazz and for Gallon to play against each other. 486 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: Should be if Gallen has anywhere close so as usual 487 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: start it should be three played appearances for Jazz near 488 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: the top of the Marlins lineup against Gallen. That will 489 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: be spicy. That'll be great to see. Jazz has spoken 490 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: about this in the past, how he was looking forward 491 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: to matching up with Gallan, validating the move from the 492 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: Marlins perspective, I can't wait. Buckle up. That's Monday night, 493 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: six forty first pitch. Be sure to tune in for 494 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: that particular matchup between Jazz and Gallon. Two guys with 495 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: a deep connection who will I think always be linked 496 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: because of that trade consummated in July of twenty nineteen. 497 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: Some other final notes just to get to. By the 498 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: time you listen to this, the Marlins will probably have 499 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: made their roster trim down moves. We covered this on 500 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: the last podcast about who might get trimmed from the 501 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: Marlins roster going from twenty eight spots to twenty six. 502 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't have a great feel for exactly what will happen, 503 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: other than Zach Pop is very likely to get squeezed out, 504 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 1: either via the injured list or an option, and then 505 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: they have that choice between sending down another bullpen arm 506 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: and going with a thirteen man pitching staff, or biting 507 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: their tongue and holding their nose and sending down Brian 508 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Dela Cruz, despite his great production in a limited sample, 509 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: if they feel that he just does not have a 510 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: substantial role to play based on the current configuration of 511 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: the team. Fortunately, to this point of the season, the 512 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: Marlins have been really well off from a durability standpoint, 513 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: and that's why these decisions are so tough. It's because 514 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: they have a lot of quality players who are available, 515 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: and even those that aren't fully living up to their 516 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: potential have nice track records that you don't want to 517 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: totally dismiss one of the reinforcements. A few guys that 518 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: are entered to this point of the season. Dylan Floro 519 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: is now four games into his rehab assignment. His return 520 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: to the Marlins should be right around the corner, though 521 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: not quite imminent. I don't think he's coming back on Monday. 522 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: He just moved his rehab assignment to Triple A. And 523 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: I just want to caution people if you haven't been 524 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: following closely with Floro coming back from a shoulder issue, 525 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: calling it rotator cuff tendonitis if I remember that correctly, 526 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: where he basically had to start his whole throwing progression 527 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: over right after spring training ended, so he was slowed 528 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 1: by that. He just couldn't quite get it loose at 529 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: the start of the year, so it has already cost 530 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: him three and a half weeks of the season. Even 531 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: now on his rehab assignment, he just doesn't look quite right. 532 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: The main concern is that his fastball velocity is several 533 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: ticks lower than it was last year, even though he's 534 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: not conventional power arm. Last year he was quietly averaging 535 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: about ninety four miles per hour on his fastball, and 536 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: for a guy with a key change up in his 537 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: pitch mix, that being the one that he uses to 538 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: put away a lot of batters, you need a certain 539 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: fastball velocity in order for that change up to play 540 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: off of it. To this point in his rehab outings, 541 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: he has maxed out the highest velocity he has reached 542 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: in any of these rehaboutings, ninety three miles per hour, 543 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: and his average velocity has been about ninety one, a 544 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: threefold ticks below where it was just last season and 545 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: where it had been the previous few years as well. 546 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: That's a concern. It is not often you see somebody 547 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: drop down multiple miles per hour in their fastball from 548 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: one year to next and still maintain their exact same effectiveness. 549 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: Hopefully he has at least one more TRIPAA outing ahead 550 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: this upcoming week and that velocity ticks up a little bit. Otherwise, 551 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know whether they would bring him back straight 552 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: or kind of take a break and reassess exactly what 553 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: the issue is to this point and whether he could 554 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: fully get through that the Marlins need him. There's a 555 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: lot of discourse we've had about this bullpen, which overall 556 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: this year has been okay in terms of their impact 557 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: on the game. It's clear, it's evident that it is 558 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: a below average bullpen talent wise, but they have in 559 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: the moments where they absolutely need to perform, more often 560 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: than not, they've been successful. And the credit for it 561 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: to Don Mattingly for adjusting to which particular guys should 562 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: be in those most important spots. They've been able to 563 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: to this point have a bullpen that, by win probability added, 564 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: they are right in the middle of the pack in 565 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: terms of affecting games. But they are hoping, of course, 566 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: that that improves a little bit. One clear reinforcement to them, 567 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: more so than anybody else I can think of, would 568 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: be Dylan Floro, because he's been there and he's done 569 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: that before, coming off one of the best years of 570 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: his career. Hopefully they can get him right to shore 571 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: up that group that will do it for this episode, 572 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: I think on Jazz versus Zach Callen as players to 573 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: this point in their careers, and finally on the field 574 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: matching up on Monday Night, a whole lot of coverage 575 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: coming of that matchup before and afterwards, of course, looking 576 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: at the bigger picture as well of a Marlins team 577 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: that has performed well to this point in the season, 578 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: even relative to some of the heightened expectations that they 579 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: had still one hundred and forty one games to go 580 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: in this Marlin season. 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