WEBVTT - Jones and O'Hearn shine, but struggles continue

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Territory, presented to

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<v Speaker 2>you by the Foul Territory Network. I'm Noahile's joining me

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<v Speaker 2>as always is my good palent co host Platinum Ke

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<v Speaker 2>aka Mark. Josh will join the show later for his

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<v Speaker 2>weekly segment, Jay Hey, Now, he's doing a little traveling

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<v Speaker 2>for his birthday, so we already wish them happy birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy related birthday. Again, mister Harrison, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a good show for you today. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Jared Jones. Should they have pulled him? Should they

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<v Speaker 1>not have pulled him? Who knows? We're gonna talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about Carmen Machinski as well. He's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Some guys in the starting rotation aren't good. Should they

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<v Speaker 2>flip spots or should they maybe just use him like

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<v Speaker 2>a really good relief picture should be used. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we will round out the show, as I said, with

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Harrison's weekly segment, Jay Hey Now, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark, I'll we got to start off with probably.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was a lot of interesting stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>took place, so much a historic effort by Ryan O'Hearn,

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<v Speaker 2>which we'll talk about later.

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<v Speaker 1>In the show, Paul Skeen snapped a losing streak. That

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<v Speaker 1>was big.

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch Keller continues to struggle Carmen Macginski probably not being

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<v Speaker 2>used correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Meyham hit a home run. I mean, everything was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, but yeah, yeah, probably the most interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happened, aside from maybe O'Hearn. That was pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Jones became the first pitcher in Major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 2>to throw six perfect innings, leave a game and not

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<v Speaker 2>be the winning pitcher.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh what?

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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen up eighteen ninety, struck out eight batters. His velocity was,

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<v Speaker 2>as he likes to say, fn electric.

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<v Speaker 1>He tried his best.

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<v Speaker 2>To avoid Don Kelly to get that you know that

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<v Speaker 2>that yank from the game, but it happened. Mark, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a fan, you know you're you're you're watching this with

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<v Speaker 2>your heart on your sleeve. What were you thinking when

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<v Speaker 2>that decision was made?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, initial reaction was, what the hell are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are we pulling this guy with a perfect game.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like we just said, the only twenty sometimes that

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<v Speaker 3>perfect games have been thrown. You gotta give the guy

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<v Speaker 3>a shot, right, And then I took a minute, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>cooled down a little bit and realized that, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a guy who is just coming back from

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<v Speaker 3>elbow surgery not been stretched out to the length that

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<v Speaker 3>it would have required to finish that game. He was

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<v Speaker 3>at seventy seven pitches through six, which, yeah, that's really

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<v Speaker 3>really good. But for Jared Jones Sanders, that's right at

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<v Speaker 3>the upper limit. I could see the argument, maybe send

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<v Speaker 3>him back out for one more inning, But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, is it worth the risk if you know

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<v Speaker 3>already that he's not going to go nine? I think

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been interesting to see if this was

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<v Speaker 3>someone else in the rotation that was perfect through six,

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<v Speaker 3>to see how like obviously I think that wouldn't have Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they would have pulled him, right, So yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just because it's scared. You don't want to hurt him.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have any issue with it, but it was frustrating,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when the very next batter comes up to the

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<v Speaker 3>plate and picks up a hit off of Mason Montgomery.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the icing on the cake there for that. What

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<v Speaker 3>do you think was that the right call there?

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<v Speaker 2>By? Don Kelly, it's the boring call. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the fun call. But sometimes when you're in charge, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to make tough decisions. I think the big takeaway

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<v Speaker 2>I have on this decision was was he going to

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<v Speaker 2>be going nine innings?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>And he just wasn't. So what they did was getting

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of something.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you let him go back out for the

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<v Speaker 2>seventh and he throws fifteen more pitches but still has

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect game, then it becomes an even bigger thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And and if you just knew, like and no scenario

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<v Speaker 2>is Jared Jones gonna throw a hundred pitches like he

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<v Speaker 2>just he was going to hit one hundred pitches if

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<v Speaker 2>you let him throw three more innings. So if that's

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<v Speaker 2>the plan, you stick to the plan. You live and

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<v Speaker 2>die by the plan. And I hate it. I hate it,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's boring. I want to see a perfect game.

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Jones deserves that opportunity. But that's the type of

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<v Speaker 2>baseball that's being played today, and especially with Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Two things can be true.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be the right decision, and it also can

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<v Speaker 2>be the frustrating and boring and you know, not old school,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I get why everyone's frustrated by it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's even more frustrating that their bullpen lost than that game, right,

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<v Speaker 2>They also didn't score a run, so it couldn't matter,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And it is what it is, like Jared

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<v Speaker 2>Jones knows going into pretty much every game how far

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<v Speaker 2>of a leash he has, and he probably exceeded that leash.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He mentioned post game he was only supposed to go

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<v Speaker 3>five and they let him go sick, so they'd already

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<v Speaker 3>let him go one inning more than expected. And I

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<v Speaker 3>really liked what Don Kelly said in the post game

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<v Speaker 3>after about talking about justifying the decision. He said, our

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<v Speaker 3>priority is health, winning and player accomplishments like personal accomplishments,

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<v Speaker 3>in that order. And I think that's the right way

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<v Speaker 3>to do it, especially because, I mean, we just saw

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<v Speaker 3>Andy Rodriguez get hurt. We've seen Connor Griffin get hurt,

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<v Speaker 3>we have Spencer Horwitz out, we have on Neil Cruz out.

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<v Speaker 3>Injuries are very, very frustrating, a lot more frustrating than

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<v Speaker 3>a missed opportunity at a perfect game. I would be

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<v Speaker 3>livid if Jerry went out there and then his shoulder, yeah, yeah, something,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, way more so. And you just can't risk

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<v Speaker 3>that with how valuable Jared Jones is to this team

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<v Speaker 3>right now, especially with as we're going to get into

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<v Speaker 3>here soon Mitch Keller's struggles continuing, So I go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was just gonna say, like again, it sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>It sucks that it happened to Jared. It sucks that

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<v Speaker 2>the way the game ended. I get it, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>just the way it goes. Like yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>odds are I mean odds are he wasn't a gonna

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<v Speaker 2>finish the perfect game because just he deserves an opportunity, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's only been like twenty seven of them ever,

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<v Speaker 2>so who knows. But he deserved the opportunity. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, that extra workload could come

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<v Speaker 2>back to bite him, like and everyone will say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>one another twenty pitches who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows? And it could have been fine, It could have.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm a fan of when you have a plan,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you're dealing with an asset like Jared Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>which could be so valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already dealt with injuries. Just stick to the plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick to the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>If you deviate from this plan, what other plans are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to deviate from? And again, I don't expect

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the people listening to this to agree

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<v Speaker 2>with me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not fun, and it resulted in a loss. But

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<v Speaker 2>the longer that went on and less and less, there

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<v Speaker 2>was something in that plan that said, if he's under

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<v Speaker 2>this amount of pitches, he can go the whole game.

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<v Speaker 2>If that was a part of the plan, then scratch

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<v Speaker 2>everything I've said.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't. I mean, they said he was only

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to go five. They let him go further what

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<v Speaker 1>he was supposed.

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<v Speaker 2>To And so unless you're gonna let him keep going

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<v Speaker 2>all the way through, regardless of pitch count or if

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<v Speaker 2>it stays under one hundred, whatever, then none of this matters.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just you're just pushing it back and making the

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<v Speaker 2>moment more frustrating or awkward. And I guess, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe if he if he goes out there in the

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<v Speaker 2>seventh and allows a single and then you go pull him,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people would have understand or understood.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is what it is. It's not why they lost.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean it's at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the best Jared Jones.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just about to say it. Yeah, it completely

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<v Speaker 3>eclipsed how good Jared Jones looked, how efficient he was

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<v Speaker 3>pitching the contact when he wanted to, but also getting

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of whiffs to get those strikeouts. It just

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like early twenty twenty four Jery Jones all

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<v Speaker 3>over again. That dominance. That just he felt so in

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<v Speaker 3>control of every battery that stepped in the plate. It

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<v Speaker 3>felt like he had an advantage before even threw a pitch.

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<v Speaker 3>So I love that. I want to see more of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I believe we will, so looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna take a quick break when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch Keller pitched again on Thursday. He lost again on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't get to the fourth inning. It was bad,

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<v Speaker 2>high pitch count. He's just not been effective. That's issue

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<v Speaker 2>number one. Issue number two is they have a better

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<v Speaker 2>starting pitcher right now than Mitch Keller. He's also their

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<v Speaker 2>best reliever and then really not using him in either

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<v Speaker 2>of those roles. A lot of people are frustrated with

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<v Speaker 2>how Krmen Macjinski's season is gone, despite his numbers being

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good. He's been one of the more effective relievers

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball since they moved him to the bullpen. He

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<v Speaker 2>was one of their better starting pitchers while he was

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<v Speaker 2>in the starting rotation, but he's not being used in

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<v Speaker 2>high leverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. What are your thoughts on how they've used him?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you get what they're doing? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have a problem with it? Let me hear what you

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<v Speaker 2>have to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was perplexed, to put it lightly or nicely,

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<v Speaker 3>by bringing Keller in when you're up ten to two.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand that, because, yeah, you want to eat

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<v Speaker 3>some innings up there, But we have other relievers in

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<v Speaker 3>the bullpen that you can burn there that start for

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<v Speaker 3>them and go to them instead. And we saw it

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<v Speaker 3>like if we could have gone to Karmen Maginsky maybe

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<v Speaker 3>instead of Mason Montgomery or something, would Wednesday's game have

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<v Speaker 3>gone any differently. And but the fact that Karmen's just

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<v Speaker 3>not available for those kind of appearances as like your

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<v Speaker 3>normal reliever, it's just it feels like it's hamstringing this

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<v Speaker 3>bullpen even more, where you have a guy who's great,

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<v Speaker 3>but you can only use him in certain spots or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. It's just very very confusing. I didn't agree

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<v Speaker 3>with bringing him in on for the skiing start, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's bullpen management's tough. But that was a

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<v Speaker 3>weird one for me. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it makes me wonder if they're like intentionally

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<v Speaker 2>doing this so he stays stretched out, like they're not

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<v Speaker 2>pitching them on back to back days like they don't,

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<v Speaker 2>like if there's just an agreement, like hey, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not insinuating that this is the case. I'm not reporting anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just more like, you know, we all know he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be a starter. It seems like they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>everything they can to keep him in starter shape, either

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<v Speaker 2>for when they need a rotation spot to be filled

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<v Speaker 2>or if you know, maybe they said they were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>move him again, not reporting that, not suggesting that's reality,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of floating that out there, like maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's how this got resolved and they got him to

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<v Speaker 2>do his job. Was like it will trade you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just we got to get it done, and so they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to stretch him out, like but other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know the logic behind how they're

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<v Speaker 2>using him. Especially like the Skis thing that if you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get him out there just to get some

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<v Speaker 2>run for him, like have him throw one inning, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's there's just no reason why you're not using

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<v Speaker 2>him as a high leverage arm. He's your best right

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<v Speaker 2>hander in the bullpen and it's not particularly close.

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<v Speaker 1>So and if.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to use him as a high leverage arm,

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<v Speaker 2>then he should be in the bullpen, or he should

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<v Speaker 2>be in the rotation, and Mitch Keller should be moved

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<v Speaker 2>back to the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at that point where Carmon Majinsky is just.

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<v Speaker 2>Too valuable, valuable of a player to be used in

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<v Speaker 2>the way they're using him right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe they're just waiting till the All Star break

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of reshuffle the pieces here.

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<v Speaker 1>I would hope that that's.

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<v Speaker 2>The case, because again, he's one of the more valuable

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<v Speaker 2>pitchers on this staff and this reduced role.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, sometimes when you pitch him in Balk it makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sense like if he would have had him follow Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they could have just thrown a hole exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've seen that before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I don't know, it just feels

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<v Speaker 2>like they have not really maximized what he can provide

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<v Speaker 2>in the bullpen, and so if you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>use him the right way, just make him a starter

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<v Speaker 2>because he's better than some of the guys in their rotation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Look at Mitch Keller's last seven starts. He has

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<v Speaker 3>a six point six y nine ear a, a one

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<v Speaker 3>point sixty three whip and that's in thirty five innings pitch.

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<v Speaker 3>He's allowed forty two hits in that stretch along with

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen walks. It's just been tough to watch. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think I had the exact same thought, where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>the All Star break is coming at the perfect time,

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<v Speaker 3>not just to get Mitch Keller right, maybe to switch

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<v Speaker 3>up these roles and flip flop him and Carmen. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it would benefit the team quite a bit. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think Mitch is the kind of person and leader

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<v Speaker 3>that he'll do whatever is best for this team willingly.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't anticipate that being an issue. Keller just puts

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<v Speaker 3>his head down and goes to work, So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that he's gonna have a drama with like going

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<v Speaker 3>to the B word or anything that we've seen in

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<v Speaker 3>the past, So I mean, maybe he is. That would

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<v Speaker 3>be quite digressing.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got to tell someone to do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no one wants.

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<v Speaker 2>To be in the bullpen, but at some point you

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<v Speaker 2>just got to do it. So I hear everything else

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't mean interrupt.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, No one wants to go to the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 1>We get it. Someone's got to do it, yep, because

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<v Speaker 1>right now you just you don't have your best people in.

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<v Speaker 3>And Mitch Keller has a contract. He's not, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in arbitration. He's not having that whole concern hanging over

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<v Speaker 3>as cloud where it's like are you a stargut pitcher

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<v Speaker 3>or your a leief pitcher. That's probably I think money

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<v Speaker 3>is probably the biggest reason why Carmen's so apprehensive about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's not a concern for Keller. But we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>after the All Star Game. I don't think anything's going

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<v Speaker 3>to really change before then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>We're back with our weekly j hay Now segment. This

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<v Speaker 7>y this week's segment is gonna actually highlight two players,

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<v Speaker 7>and more specifically Ryan O'Hearn and Paul Skeins.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>First things first, Ryan O'Hearn, big ups to you. Record

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<v Speaker 7>for RBIs in the game that was big time, three homers.

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<v Speaker 7>One was a grand slam. Kind of hard to not

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<v Speaker 7>highlight him with the hay Now segment. And all of

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<v Speaker 7>that also came on Paul Skeen's start day, which the

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<v Speaker 7>other day Noah said was important to win his two

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<v Speaker 7>stars before the All Star break. So that first win

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<v Speaker 7>is notched under the belt behind you know, a nice

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<v Speaker 7>effort behind, but between Paul and uh Ryan O'Hearn himself.

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<v Speaker 7>So uh, my weekly Jay hay Now segment highlights those

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<v Speaker 7>two guys. And to finish that off last thing would

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<v Speaker 7>be Sunday, Paul wanning a second start against the Brewers.

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<v Speaker 7>You got a good chance of finishing home stand three

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<v Speaker 7>and three according to know if we go when his

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<v Speaker 7>two starts. So we got one under the belt thanks

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<v Speaker 7>to Ron o'dhearn, thanks to Paul Skeins. So this week's

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<v Speaker 7>Jay hay Now segment, big ups to Paul Skins and

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<v Speaker 7>big ups to Ryan O'Hearn and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 7>offense that also chipped in throughout this series and this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to build off of two things though, hearn thing,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to make a quick point that we

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<v Speaker 2>could talk more about skins.

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<v Speaker 1>O'Hearn's been such a slam dun signing.

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<v Speaker 2>And while yes, the value there is obviously what Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>O'Hearn's providing at the plate, you know, overall in the clubhouse,

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<v Speaker 2>I think another big win for the Pirates is that

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan O'Hearn's success in Pittsburgh shows other free agents, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you can come here and play well, because we hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>seen that from a lot of free agents.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the people who came here, they signed here

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<v Speaker 1>and they got.

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<v Speaker 3>Worse starting picture. That's like a veteran Yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So that could be a big win.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they still have to pay quality talent. They

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<v Speaker 2>have to They made obviously a really big effort to

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<v Speaker 2>get O'Hearn, But.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a win. And even in.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that he's going to be in the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he's going to be on this roster as well

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<v Speaker 3>next year, I mean that's further encouragement to free agents saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you have protection in this lineup. Now you can succeed here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know they're still not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to go out and get the one Soto's and

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<v Speaker 2>the Choo Tawny's. But players of Ryan O'Hearn's caliber are

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<v Speaker 2>proven now to be a in the Pirates price range,

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<v Speaker 2>and b makes sense to come here now. So that

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<v Speaker 2>should be the the ale of the grocery shore or

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<v Speaker 2>store where the Pirates are shopping from here on out.

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<v Speaker 2>The last thing that he mentioned though, with schemes, solid

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<v Speaker 2>effort from him, got to see it again Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said the last time, biggest start of.

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<v Speaker 2>The year, he'd going keep going go to and oh

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<v Speaker 2>head into the All Star Break with so momentum be

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<v Speaker 2>eight and eight on the season, have.

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<v Speaker 1>An ERA a little lower. Just just beat the Brewers, man, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if that's the only game they win in this

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<v Speaker 2>weekend series. If you end the first half with a

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Skeins gem against the Milwaukee Brewers heading into the

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<v Speaker 2>All Star Break, people are still gonna believe in this.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If people see Paul Skens looking like Paul Skins again,

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<v Speaker 2>trending to beat Paul Skins again, even if they're a

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<v Speaker 2>game under five hundred, there's still a reason to believe

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<v Speaker 2>that they've got a shot if that guy is still

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<v Speaker 2>that guy. So that's all I have to say, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>anything to add.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just whyt to reiterate how awesome of a signing

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan or Hernez, and just also mention that nice to

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<v Speaker 3>see good old Paul Skins back to the dominant self

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<v Speaker 3>that we've seen. I just I really really desperately want

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<v Speaker 3>him to just dominate the Brewers. Make Jacob Mazerowski look

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<v Speaker 3>like basically what you did last year, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>why is this kid in the All Star game? Even

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<v Speaker 3>and with the bats lining up it was nice last

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<v Speaker 3>screen start we had, you know, the ten runs from

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<v Speaker 3>O'Hearn obviously, but just please please offense if Skeens does

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<v Speaker 3>throw a gem, like, I need to see some runs

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<v Speaker 3>because that Jerry Jones perfect Game into no run support

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<v Speaker 3>was extremely frustrating, So capitalize on it. And yeah, it's

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