WEBVTT - What’s Ahead with Ron Paul 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.320 Some want to play you something real quick. Listen to this. 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:06.160 Most of our history we didn't didn't have those institutions. 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.120 The FBI came in during the First World War, and 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.400 interestingly enough, one thing that Woodrow Wilson did he used 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:18.880 the FBI to spy on American citizens and actually arrests 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.360 them if they disagreed with his foreign policy about going 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.760 to war in Europe. And isn't interesting how recent they 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.520 used it. In the Vietnam era, Democrats used their Republicans 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:32.120 used the FBI to spy on a hundred different groups 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.040 in this country, including the churches who disagree with the 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.680 policy in Central America. Almost looks like the FBI was 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:43.519 designed to spy on Americans who might be disagreeing with policy, 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.800 especially the foreign policy. It's almost as if the FBI 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.800 was designed to spy on its own citizens. That's from 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:53.920 nineteen eighty eight. That is a former Congressman Ron Paul 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.680 predicting that in warning us in nine. So what is 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:03.320 Ron Paul think about the FBI raid on Donald Trump? 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.959 What does he think about the state of affairs today 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.840 in the country, where is this cell heading? What does 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.360 he think about the loss of liberty during COVID, can 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:16.880 we get it back? So many questions for Congressman Ron Paul, 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.040 and we're going to ask him because he's my guest 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.600 on this episode of the Truth with Lisa Booth. That's right, 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.320 We've got Ron Paul who has been warning us about 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.800 the danger as a big government, warning us about things 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.039 like the Patriot Act, warning us about the FBI, warning 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.199 us about the Federal Reserve, warning us about centralized power. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.479 So we're going to get his take on everything that's 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.280 going on in the country right now, and they're sure 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.280 as a lot. It's also the host of the Ron 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.680 Paul Liberty Report. A former member of Congress, he ran 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.240 for president as the Libertarian Party Dominie in nineteen eighty eight, 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.600 also for the Republican Party and two thousand eight, two 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.840 thousand twelve. He's been right about so many things. I 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.320 wish my ears were more open before. I wish I 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.400 had listened more before about some of his warnings. But 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.880 we're going to get his take now, so stay tuned, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:17.600 Congressman Ron Paul. So, Congressman, I just wanted to thank 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.880 you for fighting for liberty for so long. I think 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.040 a lot of us wish that we had listened to 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.640 a lot of what you had to say earlier. I mean, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.880 we've really just seen this escalation and the loss of liberty, 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.560 and you've been so right for so long. So thank you, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.440 very good. Good to be with you, Lisa. I wanted 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:39.960 to play this clip. This is you in talking about 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.520 the FBI. Let's play it and then we'll get you 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.720 on the other side. Most of our history we didn't 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:49.000 I didn't have those institutions. The FBI came in during 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:53.280 the First World War, and interestingly enough, one thing that 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.320 Woodrow Wilson did he used the FBI to spy on 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:00.640 American citizens and actually arrest him if he disagreed with 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.720 his foreign policy about going to war in Europe. Isn't 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:07.079 interesting how recent they used it In the Vietnam era, 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.399 Democrats used the Republicans used the FBI to spy on 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.320 a hundred different groups in this country, including the churches 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.359 who disagree with the policy in Central America. Almost looks 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.520 like the FBI was designed to spy on Americans who 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.920 might be disagreeing with policy, especially the foreign policy. I 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.000 think a lot of people listen to that clip and 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.040 they see where we are now, and they're saying you 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.160 know you were right about the FBI. What do you 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:38.480 think about today's FBI. Well, it's no better, for sure, 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.400 it's probably worse, but it was It was even pretty 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:47.080 bad then. But it's inception was bad. That's where the 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.160 real problem started because it was a spying agency and 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.400 then they put a guy like Jay or Hoover you know, 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.600 in charge of it, and he was an evil person 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.200 that used it as a political way. So it start 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.720 off very badly and there was nobody there to to 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.400 monitor it, and uh for years it went on and 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.840 he was like Jaker Hoover was like a saint, and 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.800 he was theorsed by Republicans and Democrats. And even today, 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.200 you know, it's very hard for conservative Republicans and to 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:24.280 challenge it because most conservatives I will agree that, uh, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.600 you know, we have to have a strong police. So 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.000 they identified that with the strong police. But then the 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.840 thing gets out of control and we end up with, uh, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.200 you know, the mess that we have today with the 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:39.320 police forces that they that they they're supposed to protect people, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.400 then they end up defending the police. So it's a 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.160 real mess. So that the inception was wrong, and it's 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.120 continued to get worse. There's been no monitoring of it. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.360 There have been a few people over the years that 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:55.359 have spoken out, but you know, the main street media 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.560 and the universities and the professors and most of the 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:03.360 politicians didn't look one step beyond what seemed to be well, 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.880 we got to you know, control crime. You know, people say, yeah, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.040 that's right, that's one thing government has to do. But 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.920 that's why, that's why it's so risky giving power to government. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.479 Even even if it sounds good, even if it's a 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.760 little bit, uh, it doesn't mean it's going to stay 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.880 a little bit. Then people should think anytime you start 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.560 something like an FBI or c i A or anything 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.760 like that, they got to remember nineteen thirteen, we're gonna 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.640 have an income tax, but it's only going to be 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.240 a percent on the rich. And then look at the 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.360 monstrosity we have now. We have not only the income tax, 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.960 but we have the inflation tax and everything and everything 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.040 to feed in the big government. So unfortunately, the FBI 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:50.880 is not part of a true republic. And uh, I 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.599 don't think you'll find something very specific in the Constitution 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:59.840 authorizing you know, the establishment of the FBI, and that 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.800 in itself should have been on the reason it was 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.039 never started. Well, and I think a lot of for 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.120 you know, concerns for a lot of conservatives is just 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.080 seeing that it's very political in nature. I mean, you know, 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:14.120 we all witnessed this unprecedented raid on President Trump's home 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.280 and Mara Lago. Well, why do you think the FBI 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.440 and the d o J decided to uh to raid 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.120 mar law though I think they really fear Trump, I 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:31.200 mean as uh miscellaneous his thoughts are. You know, he's 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.520 not a libertarian that had a couple of principles. He 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.360 does have conservative instrcts and I think he's a very 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:42.160 honest person, but he does challenge status quote you know, 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.760 and I think the thing that really got people liking 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.839 him is that people got sick and tired of political 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.080 correctness where where you and then it's gotten worse since 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.360 because if you don't say things and do things and 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:01.040 participate in a political historic way, get into trouble and 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.560 you're the prayer, you become the criminal and you can 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:08.280 get canceled and punished for this. So this is uh, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.560 this has been been going on as it's a lot 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:15.840 of a lot worse. So uh right now, I think 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:20.440 what happened was Uh, nobody expected Trump to win. Uh. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:25.840 He was absolutely independent challenge the status quo. I think 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.840 it started off at out of pure jealousy. How could 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:34.520 a guy like this win? And Uh? Then because he 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:40.400 was independent minded. Uh and obviously he wasn't an absolutist 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:44.560 on the constitution or as a libertarian. But I'll tell 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.280 you what. Uh, he was doing some things and he 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.080 was popular and the people liked them so uh and 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.480 the the the enemy uh disliked them. But it turned 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.360 into hate. Boy, they became obsessed with it. They would 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:02.480 take any anybody anything. So just think of how the 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:08.760 ridiculous this last last election was anything to destroy the 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.520 imate of Donald Trump and uh and then they would 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.920 take take anybody to run. So so they were able 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.440 to pick somebody who would stay in the seller and 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.800 get all their organized forces, you know in the media 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:28.040 and social media where they could uh you know, and 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.760 plus lying and cheating in the elections, they were able 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.080 to achieve it. And uh and and when but I 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.920 think it's uh, it's it's part of this part was 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.840 the jealousy turned into hatred and that's what's driving And 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:46.640 then the divi divisive noes is just horrendous because uh, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.600 I don't think uh anybody really believes that there's a 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:55.120 justice system. The American justice system is is pretty remote. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.679 And to have the SBI with this authority in the 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:03.920 c I A. Those those are anything things themselves. I 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.840 see that with that much power and that much money 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.920 and that much secrecy on their part and still you know, 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:16.640 the uh ability of them to continue to do this 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.560 and and do what they've done to Trump. I said 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.640 that this is like there's been a cod coup you know, existed. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.440 I called it an invisible coup there didn't go in there, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.559 and then they turned it around and pretend O'donald Trump 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.720 was really committing a crooked coup with all those guns 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.840 and tanks that he was trying to take over the 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.640 capital with. I mean, it becomes ridiculous. But the coup 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:44.760 has been that of political power, the media and also 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.680 the law enforcement agencies. That's bad news for us, and 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.800 that's why, uh, you know, a change this yere is 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:55.559 necessary if if the people who don't like what's going on, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.559 if they can't throw these people out of office. But 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.760 I'll tell you we have a big um. But there's 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.200 some reasons to be optimistic. I think the parents right now, 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.920 that's what I like, the parents waking up over COVID, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:08.840 that kind of that's the kind of stuff we need 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.840 people waking up and saying, hey, where have we been, 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.480 you know, and looking what's happening to our cities. So 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.320 I reserve a bit of hope that this year will 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.600 things will get to improve. I mean, I know I've 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.040 woken up. You know, COVID really opened my eyes. And 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.080 just seeing the government go in and closing you know, 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.199 restaurants and and these businesses that people have worked so 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.720 hard to create and just crushing them while letting you know, 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.479 Walmart and you know, like letting all the big continue, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.000 but then you know, shutting down you know, working Americans 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.920 and you know, and then just seeing the forced vaccinations 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.080 and and all of it really just I know, it 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.480 really woke me up and realizing that liberty is free 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.599 fleeting in America and it's something that we have to 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.680 fight for constantly, which is something you've known, but a 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.560 lot of us have been waking up. Yeah, and it's 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.920 the indoctrination is the real menace for us, and that's 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.720 been going on. Yeah, we know what's going on now 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:08.000 and all of a sudden, parents are waking up and 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.480 they're seeing what the kids are being taught and what's 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.520 in the libraries and all this. But the indoctor nation 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.000 has been going on for a long time. I think 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.360 it all started in the progressive era. Uh, you know, 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.640 and that's when our foreign policy change. That's why our 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.040 monetary apologies changed, you know, way back uh in the 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:30.520 teens and nineteen thirteen. Obviously we had major changes. But 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.440 I think the real menace is the uh are there 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.800 are the universities where they have the professors who are 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.960 you know, dignified, and they're intelligent people, and they preached 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.440 this uh uh, this scheme that's going on, so uh 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.360 they got they got most of the people in the position. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:52.040 If you didn't agree with what they're saying, then you're unpatriotic. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.280 And then if you disagree with the professor, that means 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.480 you're not scientific. If you didn't agree with these crazy 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:03.120 people who locked us out, oh you're on your non scientific. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.800 But even today, you know, all of a sudden is 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:11.400 becoming a parent that vaucies those vaucies on the defense. Uh. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.120 And that's that's good, but it is a tedious job 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.400 and and the big thing, the big problem we have 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:25.880 with it's monetary policy, economic policy, or all the social regulations. Uh, 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.000 it's not going You can't wave a wand and it 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.440 go away and everybody has an understanding. I mean, there's 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.880 gonna have to be a lot of uh you know, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:40.120 serious relearning. But uh, and you can't depend on the 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.440 government schools. They're they're in business that cling to it. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:49.640 You know, You're pharmaceuticals are there to maintain their financial power, 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:55.480 the the military industrial complex their power through weaponry. Uh. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.960 To restore some common sense, I think it has to 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.480 come from the parents, you know. I just I mean, 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.679 everything is important. And when you get a couple of 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.480 people in Congress speaking the truth, yes, as a big step. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.040 But we're not going to all of a sudden get uh, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:18.000 you know, a majority people in the US Congress. Uh, 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:19.719 we can get a majority that will be a lot 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.400 better off and what we have and and maybe see 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.640 a shift. But to really change this, this whole idea 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:30.200 about interventionism and the uh, the police state and the 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.400 FBI and the CIA, people aren't ready to say let's 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.360 just get rid of Are they really willing? I found 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.320 out on the campaign that. Uh, you're not not a 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.120 whole lot of people, but more than most people realize. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.120 Uh don't want us to bring our troops home. Uh. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.199 They sort of like this, and they like this and 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:52.160 macho business and people like to be strong. Uh. Well, 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.840 I think you should be strong in the defensive liberty 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.560 US where we should design our our strength to go 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.800 is to to protect. Didn't get people to understand, but 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.600 to me, it's an educational thing. It's a moral problem 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:09.040 and the ultimate responsibility falls on our parents. Quick commercial 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.480 break back with Congressman Ron Paul on the other side. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.560 Do you think Americans care about liberty? I do, want 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:25.080 it affects them. I don't think they understand the real 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.680 notion of it. I think the Code taught them a 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:34.520 little bit about it. Uh, but sometimes they it's a distortion. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.040 They know that. Uh. If you tell the world that 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.920 means you can do what you want with your life. Oh, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.880 they like that. But then when you tell them when 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.080 you have your responsibility, you know, to take care of yourself, 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.080 that means you can't depend on the government for anything. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.200 So they all of a sudden back off from this. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.960 But yeah, they like the idea. I think it's very 0:14:56.040 --> 0:15:00.960 natural interestinct to uh, to be independent minded. I think 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.680 children are like that. They like to be independent, but 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.200 somebody has to guide them and how they use this independence. 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:12.360 But uh, yes, and I think we're the positives are 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.520 are on the uh you know, the few people that 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.240 are in commerce that are good uh when they speak 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:23.400 out that's and the importance is their educational effort. And 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.960 also uh, you know, I have spent a lot of 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.800 time promoting the Piecea's Institute because that's an economic forum. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.840 And when Leonard Reid, when he was in charge of 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:37.440 the Foundation for Economic Education, uh, he did that. So 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.920 I think that education and we're way ahead of it. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.520 When I first went to commerce in nineteen seventy six, 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.320 some of the things are taught. I was talking about 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.960 nobody ever, what are you doing that for? Well? Whyre 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.960 you worried about the Federal Reserve? I think that has changed. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.920 You know, there's some people now you know, on Wall 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.480 Street or trying to figure out what's the Federal Reserve 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.480 doing so. But and some of this stuff you don't 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.120 have to wait for a lot or to uh uh 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.040 you know, change it and get rid of the Federal Reserve. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.520 Some of this stuff is gonna self destruct, you know. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.440 And that's why, in a way, the main principle we 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.960 have to have is a freedom of choice. People can 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.040 opt out. Education is one thing like that. And that's 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:22.600 why I have a homeschooling program is that, uh, you know, uh, 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.680 and a lot of people are are going to private 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.600 and homeschooling. Unfortunately a lot of people can't afford it. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.640 But how can they afford uh to send people to 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.120 government schools and say it's for free when it's not 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.760 for free. They spend way too much money, and the 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.160 more money they spend, the worst of public education gets. 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.160 But uh, no, there are other options. And uh there's 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.640 a lot of people who have learned about Austrian economics 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:53.360 and about the Federal Reserve a lot more than they were. Uh. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.960 When I first went to commerce at seventy thought not 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:02.440 that I was responsible, but I tapped into the people who, uh, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.160 who were doing it systematically and somebody like some group 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.880 of like a Mesa's Institute. That's what they're designed for 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.240 is to train teachers. And uh. And that's why I 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.560 come down really on a you know, a more optimistic side. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.600 But I think you have to talk about what's happening 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.480 and tell people how it happened and that there is 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.040 an answer. Uh. Sometimes if you just tell them, well, 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.240 you know inevitable there's gonna be a nuclear war next week, 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.359 and you know there's gonna be depression, and you know 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.040 it's bad, but there's an answer to and it's not complicated, 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.560 doesn't cost a lot of money. Uh, it costs less money. 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.639 Just let the people on. Uh why would it be 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.600 such a job that they say, well, there'll be chaos. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.760 Why would there be chaos if you didn't have to 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.199 pay any income tax and you've got to keep what 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.840 you earned, and you wouldn't have the federal government how 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.480 do you at all? And you wouldn't have the FBI 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.520 concerned because if they can do what they did the term, 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.040 they can do it to all of us. And they 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.000 have been And what do we hear this last week 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.560 when was the eighty seven thousand I R S agents. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:14.280 You know that's that's horrible and but but but hopefully 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:18.600 more people woke up on realizing that the that the 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.400 police force, not on the FBI, that the police force 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.040 and the FBI U is the enemy of liberty here 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.880 at home. Well, I mean the Department of Justice created 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:31.520 a new domestic Terror unit after January six to to 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.960 go after the individuals involved with that, and then you know, 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.840 you can kind of see the trajectory of where that's 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:39.800 going to continue. You know, it seems to all be 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.120 going in the direction of people who don't share, uh, 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.639 the same ideology as the Biden administration. So I I 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.879 think a lot of Americans are concerned about that and 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:55.080 what that means for them. Uh that's true, but it isn't. 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:59.760 You know, people say say things that are half true. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.080 Biden is responsible, you know for the mess we're in 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:07.000 and all the inflation. Uh he's made it much worse, 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.760 you know, what he's done to energy and all that contributed. 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:15.280 But no, it's a bipartisan answer that's ingrained in the 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:20.840 system because, uh, Democrats and Republicans do all the budgets, 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:25.800 and Republicans, you know, basically aren't good fiscal conservatives. There's some, 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:27.840 if you want to find a few, there are in 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:32.240 the Republican Party, but no, the spending just continues. So 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:35.840 it's this philosophy of government, the government should be involved. 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.240 I was in Washington, I think he was a seventy 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.280 eight when they voted for the Department of Education, and 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.520 of course tried to make some of those points, but 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:50.520 uh no, I mean, if we're serious, the Republicans, the Libertarians, 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:55.040 the Conservatives, and some some Democrats should wake up and 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.840 say this this is we've had it. You know, this 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.400 doesn't work. We needed to get a federal government out 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.879 of education, but that doesn't really exist. That's how I 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.480 had one uh uh congressman come up and he was 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.480 sort of leaning in our directions, but he'd vote for 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.320 an amendment to cut something in a bill, and then 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:18.520 I would want to abolish the system. And uh, I 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.960 asked him, how come you voted to cut a little 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.560 bit but not a lot. He's run. You always just 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:27.919 go too far. But I say, I give him an 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.440 inch and they'll take a mile. And that's the that's 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.800 the harder one thing to say is sell because they think, well, 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.439 you don't care about the poor people. Well, maybe our 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.320 libertarian cares more about the poor people because we know 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:43.879 how how productivity, you know, produces a lot of wealth. 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:47.000 And if you're worried about the poor people, why don't 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:51.240 we analyze why people are living in tents in major cities? 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:56.320 And uh that's what that's the message that that we 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.680 don't do a good job. And I don't think libertarians 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.840 and conservatives have done a real good job because our 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:07.520 message is so powerful, it's not complicated, it doesn't cost money, 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:11.640 it costs less money, but we don't do a good 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:15.200 job and selling it to the people. But when they 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:20.240 I found out what I campaigned across the country, once 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.240 it was discovered, and the young people discovered it more 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:27.840 easily than the older people. Once it's discovered, Once it's discovered, 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.199 it's really exciting, you know. And that's why I I 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.880 did talk to college kids in spite of the fact 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.440 the college kids are so dependent and said, all the 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.000 college kids a bunch of bumbs, you know, they owe 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:43.600 all this money. But but the college kids didn't vote 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.720 those student loan programs, and it was it was the 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:51.600 politicians that did that, and the school teachers and and 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.719 the people who wanted to build school buildings and all this. 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.120 So but now the message and the message is there, 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:03.320 and the shift is there. Still, it would be uh 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.000 naive to say, oh boy, well we're shifted. We're gonna 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.440 keep doing this. No, it's gonna be a real struggle, 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.720 and it's gonna be ups and down. But I claim 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.240 that the message of liberty is not complicated, and if 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.439 the people hear it, they will respond favorably. And a 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.840 lot of people don't seem to see the correlation between 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.800 you know, the more federal student loans you have, and 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:28.120 the more loosely those are given, the more colleges or oh, 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.399 we'll just raise the prices, you know, and then and 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.560 then it goes down, you know, and then it goes 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.120 down this vicious road of people, you know, taking out 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.080 way too much debt. Uh, you know, because colleges keep 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.800 raising the prices. Yeah. Well, you know the one thing 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.760 that always bugs me because inflation, of course comes from 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:49.240 the pressures the deficits, but the inflation comes from the 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.080 Federal Reserve and the business of printing money and given 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.440 my money out. But if you go in, if you 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:59.800 talk to people at the grocery store, especially the ones 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:04.040 whose inflation rate might be uh, you know, cost of 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:09.359 living going up at because but they exclude uh energy 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:15.800 and uh they exclude energy, energy and food. Oh, you 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.240 are inflation rate in and so bad. But some people 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.800 that's always spend their money on. So but then if 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:23.200 you ask him, what do you think should be done 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:26.240 about this, and they said, we need more money, Send 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.600 us more money. And that's exactly what we've done on 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:33.359 and it was bipartisans trillions of dollars, six trillion dollars 0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.760 since COVID started, and it was a bipartisan we sent 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:41.120 more money. So it was obvious. It wasn't like predicting anything. 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.800