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Speaker 3: Oh, good morning to you. Happy Saturday day is off

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Speaker 3: to a fantastic star. There we go. That's great, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Good way to start.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: So we got drama in the NBA playoffs, maybe a

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Speaker 3: little drama in puck as well. But how about these

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Speaker 3: Indiana Pacers taking a two to zero series lead, adding

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Speaker 3: insult to injury. Basically, after the soul crushing Game one

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Speaker 3: comeback win against the Knicks, they doubled down.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 3: They get Game two, they get greedy last night and

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Speaker 3: they show zero fear. Pascal Siakam thirty nine points in Indiana.

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Speaker 3: They take two games on the road and the Knicks

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Speaker 3: are in an O two hole. My goodness, if you

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Speaker 3: would have told me that the with like three minutes

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Speaker 3: to go in Game one, that the Pacers were gonna

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Speaker 3: win Game one. End Game two, I'd be like, what

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Speaker 3: are you watching right now? And that's exactly where we are.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how the Knicks respond from this. This

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Speaker 3: is looking like a series that's dead before it begins.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean really, when it comes down to it,

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Speaker 5: the Pacers just simply out executed and out fox and

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Speaker 5: out played the New York Knicks.

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Speaker 4: In every direction you look.

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Speaker 5: You looked at Pascal Siakam, who led the Pacers in

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Speaker 5: double figures with thirty nine points, who was fifteen twenty

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Speaker 5: three shooting. The Knicks just couldn't stop what's been the

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Speaker 5: best remaining offense in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I'm a fan of good basketball, I'm

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Speaker 5: a fan of aggressive basketball.

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Speaker 4: I feel like the.

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Speaker 5: Pacers are an imposition on the rest of this postseason field.

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Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think that's exactly what the NBA wants.

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Speaker 5: I think the NBA would rather a large market advance.

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Speaker 5: But the Pacers are legit and they're playing like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this series is over.

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Speaker 6: I mean I don't I wish I could we could

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Speaker 6: do like a mulligan on Game one and figure out.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's just so many things that had to

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Speaker 6: happen in Game one for it to go the Pacers' way.

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Speaker 6: Game two is a completely different story. Game two the

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Speaker 6: next got out played period, end of story. They were

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Speaker 6: fortunate to be up at the half. Indiana didn't play

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Speaker 6: a great first half, and then in the second half

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Speaker 6: the adjustments were were fantastic. I mean, when you watch

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Speaker 6: the Knicks, and again, Bino, you watch a lot more

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Speaker 6: of these games than I do. I haven't watched the

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Speaker 6: Knicks a lot this year. I obviously have over the

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Speaker 6: last few weeks in the playoffs. But when I watched

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Speaker 6: the game last night, like when you watch Game one,

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Speaker 6: there was not one moment, even during the comeback, even late,

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Speaker 6: I was like, the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: Are gonna pull this out, like they're gonna pull it.

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Speaker 6: Out, and they didn't. And then you watch game two

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Speaker 6: and I didn't see right. We talk about this all

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Speaker 6: the time to zig Zag, I didn't see that fire

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Speaker 6: from the Knicks last night. They were very much outplayed.

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Speaker 6: The Pacers are an incredibly gifted offensive team. Their motion,

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Speaker 6: the way that they flow with and without the basketball,

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Speaker 6: while the Knicks looked very stagnant on offense, especially in

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Speaker 6: the second half. I mean, it was just Jalen Brunton

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Speaker 6: bail us out. There was nothing that really cemented that

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Speaker 6: momentum because usually when you want, I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 6: just I'm at a loss with what happened in Game one,

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Speaker 6: and they just couldn't respond in Game two. And now,

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Speaker 6: let's be honest, the series is over.

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that Game one loss for the Knicks was

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Speaker 3: just as brutal as it gets, and you thought that

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Speaker 3: you'd probably see some more fight. There are a lot

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Speaker 3: of people that backed the Knicks. Yeah, with the zig

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Speaker 3: zag theory, that whole approach it works a lot of

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Speaker 3: times in the NBA playoffs. Didn't work in Game two

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Speaker 3: for the Knicks, but a lot of people thought that

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Speaker 3: it just they didn't execute as well as the Pacers did.

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Speaker 3: And that was the crazy thing with the Pacers the

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Speaker 3: first half. No one showed up outside of Siakam. Siakam

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Speaker 3: had a great first half. Tyrese Haliburton talked about it

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Speaker 3: with the TNT guys after the game, and Barkley asked

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Speaker 3: them about what happened in the locker room. What did

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Speaker 3: you guys say, because you guys were asleep at the

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Speaker 3: wheel the first half, and Tyrese Haliburton was basically like,

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Speaker 3: we just said to Pascal, like thanks, p thanks for

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Speaker 3: being the one guy that showed up, and hopefully we'll

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Speaker 3: join the party here. But that's it. That's all the

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Speaker 3: Pacers did was siakam in the first half. They were

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Speaker 3: trailing by three. And that was one thing that Halliburton

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Speaker 3: said was a shot in the arm was they played badly.

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Speaker 3: They played their worst half in the playoffs, and they

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Speaker 3: were only down by three at halftime, and they came

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Speaker 3: back and won, just out executed them. But you look

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Speaker 3: at this Pacers team, there's six and one on the

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Speaker 3: road in these playoffs, six and one on the road,

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Speaker 3: and they played the team with the best record in

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Speaker 3: the East, with the Cleveland Cavaliers. They smacked Cleveland around.

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Speaker 3: They're ten and two overall in these playoffs. That's what

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Speaker 3: the Pacers are right now. That's that's pretty impressive. And

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Speaker 3: I mean I go back to this was last year

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Speaker 3: when the Pacers lost, they got swept in the Eastern

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Speaker 3: Conference Finals by the Celtics and Jalen Brown, who was

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Speaker 3: the MVP of that series, he gave the Pacers some

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Speaker 3: major props, and at the time, you're kind of like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we get it, Like it's the opponent you just beat.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like boxing, where wherever you defeat is

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Speaker 3: like the toughest fighter on on planet Earth, you know,

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Speaker 3: And we're kind of like, Okay, yeah, the Pacers. But

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Speaker 3: looking back now at what we've seen with the Pacers

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Speaker 3: in this postseason, if you look back at Jalen Brown's words,

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Speaker 3: they carry a lot more weight. Check this out.

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Speaker 7: You have credit to Indiana. You know, they they played

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Speaker 7: us tough. I know, like people think that Indiana wasn't

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Speaker 7: a good team or whatever the case mean. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I thought they were tough as anybody we played all season.

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Speaker 7: I remember physical, they were fast, They put a lot

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at back on that, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you look at Indiana a lot different leaks. They have

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Speaker 3: real depths, they have a real pace that is so

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Speaker 3: difficult to keep up with, and the Knicks have a

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Speaker 3: short rotation, you know, and I think they're just getting

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Speaker 3: I thought it was weird that Tibbs benched Karl Anthony

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Speaker 3: Towns and face. So Robinson was just a bad decision

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Speaker 3: man that that didn't make any sense at all.

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Speaker 2: Got coach circles around by court Carlisle last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was rough.

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Speaker 5: And also, like the Knicks, they're so known for playing,

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Speaker 5: you know, full court defense and wearing out opponents in

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Speaker 5: certain situations. The Pacers, they they lead them fifty one

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Speaker 5: to twenty six and transition points over two games. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's just efficiency. When you see the Pacers going down court,

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Speaker 5: they look so composed. If the ball's loose, if there's

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Speaker 5: a rebound with an outlet pass, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: everybody knows where to be and they're they're not getting

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Speaker 5: ran down. And when you're able to get easy labs, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 5: it's just two points, but then it's four points in

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Speaker 5: thirteen point fourth quarter because somebody hits a three or

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Speaker 5: a couple of threes on transition. Like you gotta look

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Speaker 5: out for those easy buckets and everybody's looking for him.

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Speaker 5: The teams who hustle the hardest get them and the

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Speaker 5: Pacers have really done a great job in that category.

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Speaker 6: How about this stat The Indiana Pacers are six and

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Speaker 6: oh this postseason when trailing at the half.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 6: I will repeat that again for those who maybe just

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Speaker 6: wiping the krusty out of their eyes early this morning.

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Speaker 6: The Pacers are undefeated this postseason when trailing at the half.

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Speaker 2: No fear. And you said it perfectly, Brian.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you played that clip from Jalen Brown last

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Speaker 6: year because I think in life and in sports, and

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Speaker 6: definitely in basketball, you have to fail before you can succeed.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing it with the Thunder.

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Speaker 6: They failed last year, didn't play well, lost in the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: probably were a step.

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Speaker 2: Away, and now you see the ascent. Same thing with Indiana.

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Speaker 6: I mean, how close was Indiana to beating the Celtics

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Speaker 6: And I think two out of the four games that

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Speaker 6: they lost in the Eastern Conference Finals last year, if

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Speaker 6: I recall, they had a ninety percent win probability in

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Speaker 6: the final two minutes in two of those four games

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Speaker 6: and they blew them.

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Speaker 2: Similar to what the Knicks did in Game one.

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Speaker 6: And now you see the flip side of it, right,

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Speaker 6: they went through the failures, the adversity.

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Speaker 2: They almost got to the top of.

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Speaker 6: The mountain the Eastern Conference Finals against the defending champions.

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Speaker 6: They weren't the defending champions at the time. They were

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Speaker 2: And then they come back the.

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Speaker 6: Following year and they had a good regularly it's not

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Speaker 6: a great regular season, a good regular season, and then

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Speaker 6: they get to the playoffs and they use all of

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Speaker 6: that failure from last year as fuel. And you're gonna

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Speaker 6: see Listen, it's not gonna be the sexiest ratings Oklahoma City, Indiana,

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Speaker 6: but it is going to be I think, pretty good basketball.

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Speaker 6: Like I honestly think those are the two best teams remaining.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Like if that is the matchup,

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Speaker 3: that's a pretty good matchup. Yeah, and yeah, there are

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Speaker 3: a bunch of jokes going around X last night of

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Speaker 3: you know, executives at ABC and ESPN realizing, oh man,

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Speaker 3: it might be Pacers Thunder in the finals, and it's

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Speaker 3: just like, oh, they much rather have the New York market,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we get it, but it is a really

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Speaker 3: good basketball matchup, if indeed that's what we get. I'm

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Speaker 3: just thinking to your fellas, it sounds like a silly question,

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Speaker 3: but which is more alarming for the Knicks and also

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Speaker 3: more just like impressive for the Pacers. We get what

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Speaker 3: happened in game one, that's crushing for the Knicks. But

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Speaker 3: game two, like, after game one happens, you think, Okay,

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Speaker 3: the Knicks, they're going to fight back here, and it

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Speaker 3: did not go their way at all, and instead the

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Speaker 3: Pacers they didn't get you know, they didn't get complacent there, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, we got our split at worst, you know,

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Speaker 3: let's just go back home. We're tied one one. That's

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Speaker 3: that's good enough. You know, they went and they got

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Speaker 3: another game. So I mean, I just think with the

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Speaker 3: think you can argue for the series it might be

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Speaker 3: even more alarming that they lost Game two the way

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Speaker 3: you're thinking, all, right, zig zag city, baby, this team's

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Speaker 4: No, No, it's it's not crazy.

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Speaker 5: And and I will say that the Pacers found something

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Speaker 5: I, but I think the Pacers unlock something in game two,

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Speaker 2: I find it hard to believe that the Knicks can

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I just think the deeper the series goes,

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Speaker 6: But odds are they're going to be facing elimination on

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Speaker 2: Odds are if they make it that far unless they

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Speaker 6: If they win three straight, then I'll eat my words,

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Speaker 6: I will come out here next I don't know when

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Speaker 6: I will be thrilled that the Knicks are alive and well.

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Speaker 6: But my guess is, as I pull up the schedule

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Speaker 6: if the game, if the series is still alive next

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Speaker 6: it will be before game six obviously in the more,

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Speaker 2: Be over the moon thrilled.

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Speaker 6: My guess is the series will be over, or they'll

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Speaker 6: this is this is the Pacers time. The Knicks haven't

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Speaker 6: They had game one and I think it was Game

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Speaker 6: going to do I think the best motivation of Rich

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Speaker 6: you can allude to this because you've probably been in

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Speaker 6: That's got to be the best best motivation possible for

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Speaker 2: And the Florida Panthers are perfec with example this.

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Speaker 6: They lose to Vegas and the Cup two years ago,

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Speaker 6: is when you're right there on the precipice and you falter,

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Speaker 6: and then you get back the next year. There ain't

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Speaker 6: nothing that's gonna stop you from winning it after you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny, man, militating it can it can't, it can,

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Speaker 5: but it can also be a motivation. Brian, what do

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Speaker 5: you got because it can't That door can swing both ways.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just gonna say that. It's funny you

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Speaker 3: the lack of depth for the Knicks. They remind me

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Speaker 3: that's his strength. But if this is gonna be a

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Speaker 3: you know, this match is going the distance, that's not

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I think with the Knicks, if they

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Speaker 3: just playing one hundred miles per hour. That is not

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Speaker 3: what they want to do. That's not it, and that's

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Speaker 3: what they're gonna have to do. You have to win

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Speaker 3: four out of five. It's a bad matchup. It's just

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Speaker 3: a bad matchup for the Knicks.

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Speaker 4: It is. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And one other thing that you mentioned, Jared in passing

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Speaker 3: was like eating mayo. I do have my supplies to

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Speaker 3: pay my debt. Yeah, have time, we can do the

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Speaker 3: rapid Fire society. I might just might just whip it

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Speaker 4: So I do have.

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Speaker 3: I've got a cold coffee. I've got my squeezable Mayo.

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Speaker 3: You don't have hold coffee?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, I was gonna say hot. Probably better it

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Speaker 4: But listen, It'll just I've been through this, Bru've been.

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Speaker 2: Through I haven't been Who am I to speak? I'm well,

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Speaker 2: here's the problem.

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Speaker 5: I promised that I would pay off my bet from

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Speaker 2: I got interest to pay on the mail.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so so I hate that you brought that up.

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Speaker 4: I thought I thought that you would forget or going

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Speaker 6: One of the tournaments. So I lose one of these years,

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Speaker 6: one of these years, you're gonna rig it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be rigged.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I got to pay off this debt

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Speaker 3: because you never know. I'm gonna leave it at that,

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Speaker 3: you know, like, oh stop, nothing is promised though I

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Speaker 6: You know, maybe the mayl is well finally cut with

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Speaker 3: All right, So, broadview of this OKC series where they

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Speaker 3: this parody. We're gonna have a champion, a new champion

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Speaker 3: when it's Cabs Warriors in the finals, like that was

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Speaker 3: it's wake me when we know these two teams are

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Speaker 3: Imagine if Sam Presty gets really aggressive and makes an

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Speaker 3: this season. Yeah, that's the interesting part is it is

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Speaker 3: it better for OKC to win a championship this series

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Speaker 5: I agree, But I don't think they have to lose

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Speaker 4: And here's why.

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Speaker 5: And actually it's going to tie in nicely to the

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Speaker 5: respond to what you said. The Warriors were a championship

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Speaker 5: They didn't need the durantulay. They beat Lebron, they did it,

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Speaker 6: They made it to the second round of the playoffs

435
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 6: or a young team exciting, everyone loves them, they're improving,

436
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 6: they have all these great young players that should.

437
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 2: Continue to improve.

438
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 6: And then they went out and they signed, you know,

439
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 6: someone who was a big piece literally and metaphorically speaking

440
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 6: on another team from last year that made a good

441
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 6: playoff run, like the Knicks had a decent playoff run

442
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 6: last year, fell short against the Pacers, in seven in

443
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 6: that second round, and they couldn't keep their big man

444
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 6: seven footer to pair with chet Holmger who's another seven footer.

445
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 6: So it's kind of funny that they already are showing

446
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 6: you the ability to add free agents to what is

447
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 6: a very good roster, and a roster that Sam Presti

448
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 6: has just I mean, he's absolute wizardry to build the

449
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 6: roster the way that he did. So I don't think

450
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 6: the Thunder need to go out and get someone like

451
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 6: Giannis and it might actually end up being a detriment,

452
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 6: you know, to throw off the chemistry of this young team.

453
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: But if they do, I mean, goodness, cracious, lookout.

454
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: I know, saying to even think about and some of

455
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 3: the moves that Sam Presty made, you're right here and

456
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: think about Alex Caruso or it's a guard who's ding

457
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: up Jokic and making life difficult like that's that shouldn't happen.

458
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: And Caruso has done a very very nice job, especially

459
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: defensively in the playoffs. And that's the thing. If you

460
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 3: look at the series, man, they're smacking around Minnesota pretty good.

461
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 3: It's wild to see OKC struggle the way they did

462
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: against the Nuggets and the Nuggets lack of depth, and

463
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 3: it goes to a seventh game, and then they turned

464
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 3: on the after burners in the in the seventh game

465
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: against Denver, and now they're just smacking around the Timberwolves,

466
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 3: who are a really good team. But two games in

467
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: this is there's a beatdown for OKC, and I was

468
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 3: just thinking about that too. What has impressed you the

469
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: most about OKAC thus far? It's either a who or

470
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 3: what question?

471
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 4: Right?

472
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: It could be their defense collectively. It could be a who.

473
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 3: It could be SGA could be Jalen Williams could be

474
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: an individual player. SGA has been fantastic. He's looked like

475
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: the MVP. Two games in. I would, personally, I would

476
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: go with their defense. When you're holding Minnesota to eighty

477
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 3: eight points in the first game and then a bucko

478
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: three in game two, when you're packing the paint and

479
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: you're forcing outside shots left and right, it's I'm impressed

480
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 3: with their defense, and they've played this quality of defense

481
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: all season long. It's just I don't know, maybe off

482
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: the heels of the Denver series where they didn't look

483
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 3: nearly as good defensively at many times in that series

484
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: to see them do what they've done two games in

485
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: against Minnesota, that's what's impressed me the most. But I

486
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 3: don't know if there's a wrong answer here. Maybe if

487
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: you're like, I'm most impressed with Isaiah Joe, Okay, that's

488
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: a wrong answer.

489
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 4: But but I mean.

490
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 2: Wallace has been really impressive off the bench, but you.

491
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: Can be impressed with their depth. Their death is very

492
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: impressive also, So yeah, there are a lot of ways

493
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: you could go with that.

494
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's actually where I'm at. I think

495
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 5: from a depth perspective, the bench for OKC is so

496
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 5: much better than the bench bench depth that the.

497
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 4: T Wolves have.

498
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 5: I mean, if you look at the margins, the margins

499
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 5: are what speak to me the most right now, through

500
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 5: back to back blowout losses. The Thunder is beating the

501
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 5: Tea Wolves in this series by forty one. I mean

502
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 5: that like a combine, a combined margin of victory of

503
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 5: forty one.

504
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 4: That's not just the stars showing up.

505
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 5: That's your bench players getting off of the bench, coming

506
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 5: into the game cold and playing great defense. I mean,

507
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 5: they're quick, they're aggressive, they've been stifling Edwards. I mean,

508
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 5: he's a reliable scorer, but He's not the only one.

509
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 5: I mean, the t Wolves have some offensive depth. I

510
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 5: mean they can look elsewhere for shots. But like you said, Brian,

511
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 5: they're doing a nice job of stopping the easy buckets.

512
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 5: They're forcing the basketball outside. The t Wolves are not

513
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 5: hitting perimeter shots consistently, and many of them are being

514
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 5: contested because they're playing great wing health defense and things

515
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 5: like that. And so when you're able to, in sort

516
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: of like a methodical fashion, shut down what an offense does,

517
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 5: and they don't have answers through two games, it's gonna

518
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 5: look like this.

519
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: It's gonna look like blowout city. And okay, see.

520
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 5: I mean unless unless the Timberwolves have some some serious

521
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 5: answers in game three, unless they change some things in

522
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 5: game three. Okay, SE's gonna march the finals and it's

523
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 5: it's it's not even gonna look particularly close.

524
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're gonna be a big favorite in the finals too.

525
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 6: Because and I was thinking about this last night. I

526
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 6: before Game two, I put in a future's bet on

527
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 6: Oka see because I thought, if they won Game two,

528
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 6: and if the Pacers won Game two in New York,

529
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 6: like the markets just because obviously the Knicks were power

530
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 6: ratings wise higher than Indiana. I think now looking back

531
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 6: on that, we maybe might want.

532
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: To flip it.

533
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 6: But power ratings wise, Indiana was number four of the

534
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 6: four teams remaining. I guess maybe Minnesota was probably you know, four, A,

535
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 6: four B, but it was clear the power rating structure.

536
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 6: OKAC was a dominant one, the Knicks were second, and

537
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 6: then the two other teams were kind of below them.

538
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: If you get a.

539
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 6: Okac Thunder or oka See Pacers finals, okay See is

540
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 6: going to be a massive favorite, and it's gonna take

541
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 6: a because when I when I analyze that matchup, it

542
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 6: feels like, and you know, you can correct me again

543
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 6: because you've watched a lot more than me this year,

544
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 6: it feels like Indiana is like a poor man's thunder,

545
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 6: like they kind of want to do the same thing.

546
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: They want to get out and run.

547
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 6: I think Okaysee's defense is better, but both teams are

548
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 6: incredibly deep, and both teams are relentless. But I just

549
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 6: think Oklahoma City's got better players, you know, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

550
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 6: Like maybe you want to say Halliburton and SGA are

551
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 6: kind of relatively comparable, even though I think SGA is

552
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 6: better once you get past that, and you start comparing

553
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 6: Jalen Williams and Hartenstein and Homegrim to the bigs of Indiana,

554
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 6: Like it's just I think, okay, SE's just bigger, better, faster, stronger, deeper.

555
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: Like, I don't see that series being competitive, do you?

556
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: It'd be tough. I mean I could see, I could

557
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: see a competitive series due to the pacers pace and

558
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: they have real depth. But yeah, I mean, okay, see,

559
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: You're right, They're just on another level. That's the thing

560
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: right where I go back to the beginning of the

561
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: playoffs where Oka see is the best point differential in

562
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: the history of the NBA. Like they're beating things by

563
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: an average of thirteen points. Like all these teams that

564
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: had great point differential in that neighborhood all won championships,

565
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: every one of them, you know, and they've got the

566
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: okay see as the best in NBA history. Think about that,

567
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: to win by an average of roughly thirteen points per night, Like,

568
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: there are games that you'll lose that goes right against

569
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: your average of winning by thirteen points. You're blowing teams out.

570
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: It speaks to your defense, your depth, your front end talent,

571
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: all of that stuff. It is hard to maintain an

572
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: average like that, and they did. So that's what the

573
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Pacers or any team would be up against. That's not

574
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: easy at all.

575
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 5: And I mean when you have a star playing like

576
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 5: a star, even when he's being relied on SGA, Shake Gilders, Alexander,

577
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 5: he's been playing like the MVP like. That's the other

578
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: thing is we know who he is. We know that

579
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 5: he was up for the award a year ago. This

580
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 5: is no shock that he got one of these in

581
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 5: his back pocket now, but it is. I don't want

582
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 5: to say it's good because that really I mean, I'm

583
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 5: searching for the right ward. It's excellent, it's impressive, it's

584
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 5: perfect when not only do you have a star, but

585
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 5: you also have a star who knows what it means

586
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 5: to deliver and crunch time. And that's what we're seeing,

587
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 5: even when it's a blowout, he's not done working.

588
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: Edwards.

589
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 5: I think he's suffering the fake fate of somebody who's

590
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 5: been forced into a roll of over usage in this

591
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 5: in this postseason matchup, I think that it's kind of

592
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 5: all on him. It's either him or they're going to lose,

593
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 5: and it's like it's like him dropping fifty or they're

594
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 5: gonna lose because of how good Okayse's defense has been playing.

595
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 5: So it's it just is what it is for the

596
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 5: Tea Wolves, and Okayse is just it's they're just that dominant.

597
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 5: I don't want to call this series over the same

598
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 5: way I don't really want to call the Pacers series over.

599
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 5: But it does feel like we're in a little bit

600
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 5: of an inevitable slog to a finals matchup that we

601
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 5: can already predict.

602
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Edward's are thirty two points in game two,

603
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 6: the rest of the starters combined thirty eight exactly.

604
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: Crazy.

605
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 6: I mean, if you just can't you just can't compete

606
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 6: with that. Like that's the difference between OKAC and Minnesota.

607
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: That's why that series is definitely over.

608
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 6: Like I mean, I think the Knicks, because of just

609
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 6: their their fight, I do think will continue to battle.

610
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: Minnesota looked resigned.

611
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 6: To their fate in the last two games, like they

612
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 6: look like they were going They looked like they were

613
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 6: bringing a knife to a gunfight. Like it just they

614
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 6: just don't have the firepower to withstand that. Especially if

615
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 6: Julius Randall's gonna look like the way he did in

616
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 6: game two. They need really what it is they know

617
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 6: what they're getting from Edwards. He's gonna give you thirty

618
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 6: most nights. They need Julius Randall to give them thirty two.

619
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 6: Like that's the only way that And when Julius Randall

620
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 6: was playing at a high level, well, t Wolves ran

621
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 6: through the first two rounds against Golden State in LA

622
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 6: and now he's kind of coming back down to earth.

623
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 6: To be fair, he had twenty eight and eight in

624
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 6: game one, they still lost by thirty, Like.

625
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: It's just like, what else can you do?

626
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 6: Like, I think that is where I'm at with this

627
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 6: with this te Wolves team. I think Minnesota is just

628
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 6: so reliant on Edwards. It's really hard for them to

629
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 6: get other people involved.

630
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: Rant like and maybe the role players play better at home.

631
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: That is a thing in the NBA.

632
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 6: Maybe a guy like Alexander Walker comes out tonight, makes

633
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 6: a bunch of threes. McDaniels, you know, Devincenzo has a

634
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 6: chance to pop off for twenty twenty five. Like they're

635
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 6: gonna need multiple role players, and they've been shooting a

636
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 6: gajillion threes. You would think one of the games they

637
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 6: will hit and have a forty three point night. And

638
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 6: shoot fifty of them and they'll win one of these games.

639
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 6: But I just don't think that's sustainable for a seven

640
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 6: game series.

641
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, That's the thing is you're living and dying

642
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: by threes, and a lot of times that's by design. Like, okay,

643
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: so he's packing the paint. Anthony Edwards talked about that,

644
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: and it's like, all right, this is the best shot

645
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: we can get. And if nas Reid is just can't

646
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: buy a shot at all from outside, it's like, that's

647
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. You're gonna lose these games. The one thing,

648
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 3: and you alluded to this jeared that's maybe like, okay,

649
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: that does It's one thing in our favor that the

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Speaker 3: Timberwolves have that the Knicks don't is Okay, we're going

651
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Speaker 3: the road now down to nothing. That's that's not nearly

653
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: as comforting as the Timberwolves. So we'll see what they

654
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 3: do tonight at home. You know, they get a push

655
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,400
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656
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Speaker 3: with you for the theme and your first selection.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep the theme simple.

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00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 6: Again, we do have NBA that is still relevant and

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Speaker 6: very important as we get through the conference finals, so

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Speaker 6: we'll stick with the NBA SGP theme or maybe even

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Speaker 6: a little SGP plus as we look ahead to Game

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Speaker 6: three of the Pacers Knicks on Sunday, But I will

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Speaker 6: stick to tonight Game three thunder t Wolves back in Minneapolis.

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00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 6: I'll go Isaiah Hartenstein over seven and a half rebounds.

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00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 6: This has been a consistently priced prop throughout the postseason.

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00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 6: He's only averaging twenty three and a half minutes per

691
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 6: game through the first two games of this series, down

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00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 6: from twenty seven minutes per game in the last series.

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Speaker 2: So volume I would expect we'll pick.

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Speaker 6: Up at some point. I don't think he's a twenty

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00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 6: minute per game guy. He seems more in the high twenties,

696
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: and hopefully if the games are closer, maybe he'll get

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00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 6: a little bit more time in the fourth quarter. He's

698
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 6: averaging over eight per game in the playoffs. He's averaging

699
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 6: over ten rebounds per game in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: The model tonight has him at nine.

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Speaker 6: To get that nice cushion, you'llly need eight to cash

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00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 6: this bet. So over seven and a half rebounds for

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00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 6: Isaiah Hartenstein tonight Game three thunder two Wolves.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna go with Anthony Edwards on the over

705
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 5: twenty eight points.

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00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 4: And here's why game two he went off. He would think, Oh.

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Speaker 5: Man, okay see, is they're gonna respond They're gonna respond

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00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 5: to that.

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00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: No, they're not.

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00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 5: No, they're not because they dominated in game two even

711
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 5: though amp Man went off, And the reason is because

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00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 5: they limited the scorer from the other starters and the

713
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 5: bench for the t Wolves. So I think it's second

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00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 5: verse same as the first, or really, in this case,

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00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 5: third verse same as the second. Let an eat, take

716
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 5: care of the rest and dominate again in game three.

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Speaker 4: Okay see will do just that.

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Speaker 5: So amp Man going over twenty eight, I think he'll

719
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 5: probably sail past that, and okay, se could still win

720
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 5: by a large Mark Jim, So yeah, Anthony Edwards over

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Speaker 5: the twenty eight points.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna look to tomorrow Night's Eastern Conference Finals Game

723
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: three matchup. I got my I got it, circled Karl

724
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: Anthony Town's over twenty one and a half points.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was.

726
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: Dumb that he wasn't playing in the fourth quarter. For

727
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: most of the fourth quarter while Mitchell Robinson was out there,

728
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 3: made no sense. I don't know what Tims is doing there.

729
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know, maybe three minutes to go,

730
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: you had Mitchell Robinson like awkwardly going down the lane

731
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Speaker 3: trying to get a shot to go in. It's nowhere close,

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00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: and it's like, maybe a big man with skill would

733
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: have been better in that situation. And then they hacked

734
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: Mitchell Robinson and he's a horrible free throw shooter. It

735
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 3: just made no sense whatsoever. So I think Kat's minutes

736
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: go up. He's certainly gonna be out there in the

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00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and he's given the Pacers problems scoring wise

738
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: in this series. So give me Kat over twenty one

739
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: and a half another one that I like, maybe I'll

740
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: I'll get to that and it up. But how about

741
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: Mitchell Robinson under seven and a half rebounds. That's a

742
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: little bit dicey, But think of this, he twisted his

743
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: ankle a little bit. Reggie Miller talked about that a

744
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: big man that has any sort of like twisted ankle

745
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: that's different than a guard with as much weight as

746
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: they're carrying. And I think, as minutes go down a

747
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: little bit off the heels of game two, how could

748
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: they not. So if Robinson isn't out there for as

749
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: long of stretches and deep into the fourth quarter, then

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00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: I think under seven and a half is absolutely live.

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00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: I actually like that play, so I might squawk more

752
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: about that and prop it up. But give me Kat

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00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: over twenty one and a half.

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00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 6: Plus four point fifty four for the SGP plus. So

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00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 6: we got Hartenstein, we need eight rebounds, We need twenty

756
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 6: nine points from Edwards to cash. We need twenty two

757
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 6: points from Kat in game three tomorrow night. I actually

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Speaker 6: like the Edwards prop a lot. I think three point

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00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: yeah makes to be my prop it up theme when

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Speaker 6: we get there in the next hour. To your point

761
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 6: on Mitchell Robinson b not like it was. I bet

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Speaker 6: the over last night on his rebounds at six and

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Speaker 6: a half, and obviously he got a booze for what

764
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 6: happened in that game. But usually when they bump up

765
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 6: the number, that's when you look to bet the other side.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it'll be interesting.

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00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 6: I do think that the twin Tower lineup when they

768
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 6: have Cat and Robinson on the floor is effective.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see how Tibbs plays it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely looking forward to it, and hopefully we cash. That's

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Speaker 3: what I'm looking forward to them.

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Speaker 4: The same.

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Speaker 3: All right, come it up next. College football just figured

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00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: it out. So why can't the NFL ball on the brain?

776
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: Right around the corner? Oh, what is going on? Happy

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00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 3: Saturday to you. I hope your day is off to

778
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: a tremendous start. We have got ball on the brain,

779
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: that is right. Why can't the NFL be more like

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Speaker 3: college football? We'll get to that here momentarily. Be sure

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Speaker 3: to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just

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Speaker 3: search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a

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Speaker 3: to subscribe to you always have instant access to our

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Okay, so college football

786
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: changing things up for the twenty twenty five season. Seating

787
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: will be different. Seating will be based on record and

788
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: on the selection committee's final rankings, not the conference champions,

789
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: and those teams are seeded one through four. It's like

790
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: you actually have to be ranked in the top four

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00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: to get a buy like a top four team. You know,

792
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: crazy how that works. I love the change. I think

793
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: it makes a whole lot of sense. The days of

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00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: a team ranked like twelfth or sixteenth and getting a

795
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 3: first round by as if they're ranked one through four.

796
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: Those days are over. And who knows what this format

797
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: is gonna turn into after next season, Right, We're gonna

798
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: get sixteen teams and things are gonna change and keep

799
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: changing and keep changing, because that's the way it goes

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00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 3: in college foot But at least for the twenty twenty

801
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: five College football Playoff, the seeding has been tweaked, which

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00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: I liked. Are we all in favor of this?

803
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 4: Right?

804
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: Who's against this?

805
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: Makes sense to me? Do we lose?

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00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: Rich?

807
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm back?

808
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm back. I missed what Brian said college football? Okay?

809
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, where you getting mao together? What's going on?

810
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 5: Sorry, I was on Mars for a second there, but

812
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 5: now I'm back from.

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00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: The the outer spirit. Jared, you go first and I'll

814
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 4: catch up.

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00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 6: Well, I think so when this story broke where I

816
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 6: wasn't surprised, Like there was no surprise, like this is

817
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 6: an obvious thing. College football needed to change this. We

818
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 6: can't have Arizona State and Boise State getting buys into

819
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 6: the quarterfinals. We can't have Oregon as the number one

820
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 6: team facing a team that everyone thinks is the number

821
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 6: one team, Ohio State in their first playoff game.

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00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: We needed reform.

823
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 6: We needed to figure out a way to get the

824
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 6: best teams into the best slot. Now there's always a

825
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 6: light and a dark to every story. The light is

826
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 6: finally we have a system, or at least a seating system.

827
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

828
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 6: The dark side of this it continues to devalue the

829
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 6: conference championship games, and it will continue to devalue them.

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00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 6: And I think we are now on a path. And

831
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 6: I've said this, We've done this show.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 6: This will be the fourth college football season coming up

834
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 6: this fall that we've done this show.

835
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Speaker 2: So you're no stranger to this take by Now.

836
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Speaker 6: We need I think two conferences is enough. I would

837
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 6: be fine with one, one Mega conference with thirty ish teams,

838
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 6: just like the English Premier League.

839
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Speaker 2: We promote teams into the Mega Conference.

840
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 6: We can relegate teams out of the Mega Conference if

841
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 6: they perform poorly. All of these teams play each other

842
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 6: during the regular season, Alabama doesn't play Sacramento State in

843
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 6: late November to get ready for the Iron Bowl.

844
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Speaker 2: No more of that. And that's just the direction I

845
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 2: think we're going.

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Speaker 6: And I think two conferences AFC, NFC, right, Like, I

847
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 6: think that's fine too, and all those teams play each other,

848
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 6: but we continue to devalue the conferences by moving in

849
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 6: this direction, and I think that's okay, Like, I'm fine

850
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 6: with change, but we just need to be real and

851
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 6: honest about what's happening. The more we step towards seeding

852
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 6: it in this way and making the playoff significantly more

853
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 6: important than the conferences, we continue to devalue the conference

854
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 6: championship games.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And to be perfectly honest with you, I don't

856
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 5: know if it's a better system because I think a

857
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 5: lot of the same old arguments that we've always heard

858
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 5: will not dissipate with change.

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00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: Now.

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00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 5: The bye weeks being awarded to conference champions that was

861
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 5: a wrinkle, and that obviously upset a lot of people.

862
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 5: But can't you see, I know, I can a situation

863
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 5: where two one loss teams or maybe dare I say

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00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 5: a two loss team and a one loss team is

865
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 5: seated higher than two undefeated teams come the end of

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Speaker 5: the season, and it's all based on strength to schedule.

867
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 5: Because the committee says that two loss SEC team and

868
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 5: that one loss Big ten team are better than the

869
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 5: two undefeated ACC teams.

870
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 4: I could see. I could see it now.

871
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's the two undefeated teams will necessarily

872
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 5: come out of the same conference, but I'm just trying

873
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 5: to prove the point that there will still be controversy,

874
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 5: that they are still so far from creating the perfect mousetrap.

875
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 5: This is going to bother people. It's going to annoy

876
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 5: many sports fans, let alone college football fans, let alone

877
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: the college football fans who are directly affected by the

878
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 5: decision making of the committee. I don't like when a game,

879
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 5: or a sport or a league is so subjectively evaluated

880
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 5: to determine the postseason. It feels dirty, it feels anti sport.

881
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: It's like a popularity contest to a certain extent over

882
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 5: a meritocracy. And that's sort of the beautiful thing about

883
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 5: sport in the first place. It's why we love sports

884
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 5: is that, well, the cream rises to the top. Well,

885
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 5: unless the cream plays in a certain conference that gets

886
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 5: a certain amount of public interest, that gets a certain

887
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 5: amount of exposure that we feel a certain way about.

888
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: And then really, even if you are the cream that

889
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 5: should be floating to the top of this whole, you know,

890
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 5: swirling coffee cup cauldron of the postseason, that may not necessarily.

891
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: Worked out for you.

892
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: And that's where that's where I hate the direction college

893
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 5: football is heading in and has been in over the past.

894
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 4: I mean, we're closing in on a decade now.

895
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: Well, I would say it isn't perfect, but it's better,

896
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 3: you know, I get that. It's it's kind of weird

897
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: that you get a committee that's you could say, hand

898
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: picking or hand ranking the teams, and whoever's won through four,

899
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: those are the four teams that get to buy. They

900
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: get a first round by. That's valuable, it's that perfect,

901
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: But it's better than what we had because it's just

902
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: we can all agree. It's just dumb that it seemed

903
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: like Boise State or Arizona State get a first round

904
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: by when they're nowhere near ranked in the top four.

905
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: That just makes no sense. So I think it's a

906
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: step in the right direction. I like it, and again,

907
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 3: it's not perfect to your point, Rich, but it's better

908
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 3: than what we had, because we're here squawking about it

909
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: last year, like, how in the world can Arizona what

910
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 3: was Arizona State ranked, like twelfth, somewhere around sixteenth or something.

911
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: You can't be ranked near the teams and get a

912
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: first round by as if you're a top four team.

913
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 3: That's crazy. So I get that you don't love that

914
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: the committee is choosing who gets a first round by,

915
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: and that's very valuable. But I would argue that the

916
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: teams are choosing who. The top four teams are way

917
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: more now in this system compared to last year's system.

918
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: Totally agree.

919
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 6: I think last year the committee probably wishes they could

920
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 6: have done this, and the matchups would have been significantly

921
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 6: better in the first round. I mean, if you go

922
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 6: back and you look at what the matchups actually were,

923
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 6: I think it was like Tennessee SMU would have been

924
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 6: one of the matchups. I think Indiana would have played

925
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 6: Boise That would have been a good matchup.

926
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: Like it, It just makes those matchups so much better

927
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: for the long haul.

928
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 6: And I don't really care what would have happened last year.

929
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 6: It's not as important as what will happen this year,

930
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 6: which is you now get at least, to Brian's point,

931
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 6: a system that makes sense.

932
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: At least it makes sense. Maybe the committee gets it wrong.

933
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: That is very possible that we have.

934
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 6: This great new seating system in place and the committee

935
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 6: looks at the teams and they're like, I'm gonna go

936
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 6: with this team, and everyone's like, no, that's not the

937
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 6: right team. That absolutely a It probably will happen in

938
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 6: some capacity because we just love discourse in this society.

939
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 6: But at least now the committee can make their own

940
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 6: choice and it's not being chosen for them. That's what

941
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 6: the big gripe was last year. Everyone was like everyone

942
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 6: with eyeballs that watches football was like, yeah, Boise and

943
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 6: Arizona State are not top four teams period.

944
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 2: They're not like, they're really good teams.

945
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 6: Ashton Gent is a great player, Arizona State's super spunky,

946
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 6: and they're on the rise, but they're not one of

947
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 6: the best four teams. It was obvious to every single

948
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 6: person that watches the sport, and yet the committee was

949
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 6: powerless to do anything about it. That is what needed

950
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 6: to change, and now that has been changed.

951
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel very similarly to everybody who watched the

952
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 5: postseason last year. That I mean, the system that existed

953
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 5: jobbed certain teams in a big way and it.

954
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: Had to change.

955
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 5: I don't disagree with any of that, but I change

956
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 5: for change sake, or change to something that is obviously

957
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 5: inherently broken like out the Gates doesn't feel great either.

958
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 4: So I do I think it'll be better? Yeah?

959
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 5: But do I think it solves the majority of the

960
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 5: problems that everybody seems to have with college football and

961
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: the way their postseason is structured.

962
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

963
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 5: And this sport makes enough money and they have enough

964
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 5: decision makers and they have enough cachet I think to

965
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 5: take bigger swings than they are. If there's one thing

966
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 5: I've always said I've appreciated about the NFL is their

967
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 5: ability to be flexible, even though they're behemoth. The NFL,

968
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 5: like no other league, I feel like, flexes and changes

969
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 5: and adapts with the cultural moment better than almost any league,

970
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 5: and is willing to admit when they screw something up.

971
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 6: I e.

972
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 5: The New Orleans Saints Rams NFC Championship game pass interference,

973
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 5: no call that could have changed the outcome of league history.

974
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 5: And they go and they put their heads together and say, well,

975
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 5: we're gonna make it so PI is reviewable. And they

976
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 5: did it for a season and they went, this is

977
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 5: absolutely garbage.

978
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 4: We're going to.

979
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 2: Take that rule away.

980
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 5: And I thought, great, well, so okay, in two ways,

981
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 5: that's great. One, you're listening to your fans, and the

982
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 5: fans are what's keeping the lights on at all those stadiums,

983
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 5: keeping those billionaire owners pockets full, and keeping those millionaire

984
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 5: players on the field. So listen to your fans. Good

985
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 5: check that box. Great job. Secondarily, good on you for realizing, oh,

986
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 5: this is a garbage rule change. We were too reactionary,

987
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: we overstep the bounds of what really should have happened here,

988
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 5: and we're.

989
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: Gonna go back and we're gonna tinker with it again.

990
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 5: I love that. I love that adaptability. The NFL is king,

991
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 5: and I understand it's good to be king, and you

992
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 5: can make decisions and some of them are ugly and

993
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 5: you have to fix them later, and you may have.

994
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 4: Room to do that.

995
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 5: Well, guess what right behind the NFL in this country

996
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: is college football. They are printing money right now. So

997
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 5: go and act like the NFL.

998
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 4: Don't.

999
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 5: Don't be afraid to take big swings, because even if you, miss,

1000
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 5: You're probably gonna still land in Valhalla. I mean, you're

1001
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 5: still going to make a ton of money. You may

1002
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 5: piss off a lot of people doing it, but you're

1003
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 5: still gonna make a.

1004
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: Ton of money. And then just fix it. Then just

1005
00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 4: fix it.

1006
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 5: But if this isn't a big enough swing to me,

1007
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 5: I think the playoffs are still inherently broken even with

1008
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 5: this rule change.

1009
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: You know what the irony is.

1010
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 6: So I just pulled up what the bracket would have

1011
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 6: been from last year. Here's what the bracket would have

1012
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 6: been if this rule change was in place. I guess

1013
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 6: I do care about hypotheticals, because, let's be honest, it's

1014
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 6: the radio show.

1015
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: We love hypotheticals.

1016
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 6: Clemson would have played Notre Dame, Boise State, Indiana, Arizona State,

1017
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 6: Ohio State, SMU Tennessee in the first round. Your top

1018
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 6: four seeds would have been Oregon, Georgia, Texas, Penn State.

1019
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 6: Odds are you would have gotten Notre Dame against Penn State. Oh,

1020
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 6: that sounds familiar. Odds are you would have gotten Ohio

1021
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 6: State against Texas in the quarterfinals. Well, that sounds familiar.

1022
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 6: Like you would have still gotten a lot of these

1023
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 6: similar matchups.

1024
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: If seating holds in.

1025
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 6: Terms of who the projection, not the seeds, but the

1026
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 6: projected teams would have been, it would have probably been

1027
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,280
Speaker 6: Oregon Notre Dame in the semis Georgia versus Ohio State,

1028
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 6: and your championship game would have.

1029
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: Likely been Notre Dame versus Ohio State.

1030
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 6: You could make the argument Organs better than Notre Dame,

1031
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 6: but that's basically a coin flip, and Ohio State would

1032
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 6: have obviously been a favorite over Georgia, so you might have.

1033
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: Gotten the same result.

1034
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 6: Even if we had it seated this way, you still

1035
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 6: might have gotten Ohio State versus Notre Dame. Anyways, even

1036
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 6: if the seating was shifted to the current format that

1037
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 6: we now are operating under. That's not to say that

1038
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 6: it wouldn't have been different, but the projections say that

1039
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 6: it was still a likely outcome. You would have gotten

1040
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 6: Notre Dame versus Ohio State, which is kind of funny

1041
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 6: if you think about it.

1042
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, there are some things that would have maintained

1043
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 3: and there are things that would have changed drastically. Like Oregon,

1044
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: for instance, they were the number one team, they were

1045
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: the number one seed, and they got Ohio State for

1046
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: their first game, right, Like that would have been a

1047
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: lot different and the Ducks are raising the arms like

1048
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 3: we would have signed up for different, you know. Like

1049
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 3: so it does change things. And that's the thing. Like

1050
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 3: to Jared's point, maybe the committee they put the fifth

1051
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: ranked team what we perceived to be the fifth ranked

1052
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: team fourth, and that team gets a first round by,

1053
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: and we're like, what's going on with that? It's not

1054
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 3: gonna be as bad as it was this past year.

1055
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: Arizona State was ranked twelfth and they got a first

1056
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: round by. They were seated fourth. The Committee's not doing that.

1057
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 3: The Committee's not putting the twelfth ranked team and seeding

1058
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 3: them fourth. They're not doing that. But that's the way

1059
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 3: it was with the old system. And that's the funny

1060
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: thing to me, too, is college football figured out something

1061
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 3: that the NFL should do. I've been yelling about this

1062
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: for years, but college football effectively just said, hey, it's

1063
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,479
Speaker 3: great that you won your conference. You get a seat

1064
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: at the table. You might not be getting a bye

1065
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: as if you're a top four team. That's kind of crazy.

1066
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 3: Just because you win your trash conference doesn't mean you

1067
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: get a first round by. And I don't know why

1068
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: the NFL looks at it differently. Where the NFL should

1069
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: look at it and say, oh, you want your trash

1070
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 3: AFC South Division, Houston, and you have a worse record

1071
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: than the Chargers. Guess what, you don't get a home

1072
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 3: playoff game. You got to earn it. You have a

1073
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: better record. But they don't. The NFL does not look

1074
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 3: at it the way college football does. I think college

1075
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: football has this right. I think the NFL has it

1076
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: dead wrong. You can't tell me it makes sense in

1077
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 3: any world to have four fewer wins as a division

1078
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 3: winner than the wildcard team and you're hosting that wildcard

1079
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 3: team that's four wins better than you. It makes no

1080
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 3: sense at all. But the NFL they're gonna roll with that.

1081
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: They might always roll with it that way. The owners

1082
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 3: don't want to give up the home game.

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00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what, I appreciate it because to me,

1084
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 5: having multiple routes, as long as it makes sense and

1085
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 5: it feels equitable, multiple routes to get to a postseason,

1086
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 5: I'm alright with it.

1087
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: The problem I have.

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00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 5: With college football is how diverse these conference are, how

1089
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 5: lopsided and imbalanced they are from a talent and a

1090
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 5: competitive competitiveness standpoint, Like in the NFL, every division has

1091
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 5: two teams that could potentially make a.

1092
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 4: Lot of noise in the postseason.

1093
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 5: I mean there are years where obviously certain divisions are

1094
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 5: playing underperforming in a gigantic way, and you can make

1095
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 5: an argument against the point I just made, but overall, that's.

1096
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: Typically how we feel about it. So it doesn't matter

1097
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 4: where you look.

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00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 5: Amongst the thirty two teams, there's about sixteen who have

1099
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 5: a real case, and so yeah, you're right, maybe a

1100
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 5: team who has three fewer wins than another is seated higher.

1101
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 5: But it's never bothered me because it's felt like an

1102
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 5: equitable system, whereas in college football, none of it is factual,

1103
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 5: none of it's logic. Everything is subjective and opinion based.

1104
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 5: To me, that's a dirtier way to do business. I

1105
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 5: it's very simple.

1106
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: In the NFL.

1107
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 5: It's cut and dry. You're playing in a division of

1108
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 5: four teams. You're gonna play each of those teams twice,

1109
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 5: so that's six games that you really got to hone

1110
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 5: in on and focus on and win those games. And

1111
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 5: then it goes to record and all those other things

1112
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 5: that we know, heads up performances against like competitors, things

1113
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 5: like that get factored in, but it's all very logical.

1114
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 5: That's the reason why in my brain the piece is

1115
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 5: fit with college football. It's never seemed logical since they

1116
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 5: on the dawn of this playoff system, and they've continued

1117
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 5: down that path even.

1118
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 4: Faster, and it's made them a ton of money.

1119
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 6: So I don't blame them. I'm just saying it's broken. Yeah,

1120
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 6: we can get into the NFL stuff if you want.

1121
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I think there's good arguments for both sides.

1122
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 6: I know Brian's very he's very conservative in his NFL

1123
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 6: approach with this, Like he is very much in one corner.

1124
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 6: I see, I see why you should be rewarded for

1125
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 6: winning your division, Like there should be some reward for

1126
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 6: winning your division, even if your division is tracked. I

1127
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 6: still think you should get something like they're going to

1128
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 6: the postseason kind of incentive you get to the playoffs.

1129
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: I I don't know.

1130
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 6: I mean, well, the other argument too, is how much

1131
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 6: is home field really worth these days?

1132
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: Would you rather have it than not?

1133
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 6: Yes, I agree that it's worth something, but I don't

1134
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 6: think it is worth as much as it was five

1135
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 6: ten years ago, especially twenty years ago, Like when was

1136
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 6: this postseason rule put in place? Like the value of

1137
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 6: home field now is significantly, not significantly, it's let's just

1138
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 6: call it less, maybe a point less.

1139
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: It used to be three points.

1140
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 6: Every odds maker would give most teams three points for

1141
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 6: being at home. Maybe the really good home fields Kansas City,

1142
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 6: Green Bay, Minnesota would get maybe three full three, and

1143
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 6: then everyone else would get two and a half. Now,

1144
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 6: from what I'm hearing, it's like one and a half and.

1145
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: Maybe one and a half in your favor than not.

1146
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 4: I agree.

1147
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 6: I agree that I would rather have it, and that's

1148
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 6: why I am on your side with this argument.

1149
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: But I'm not like.

1150
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 6: Screaming it from the mountaintops that this is the most

1151
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 6: unfair system ever that a team that wins their division

1152
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 6: gets one home game one home game, like I think,

1153
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 6: I think in general, I think, in general, there are

1154
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 6: other things in the NFL that we could fix. For example,

1155
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 6: I think your argument about the touchback thing with the

1156
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 6: fumbling at the one that, to me is significantly more

1157
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 6: unfair than a team that goes nine and seven or

1158
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 6: I guess ten and seven now and they get a

1159
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 6: home game over a team that goes eleven.

1160
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: And six, Like, to me, that's not egregious.

1161
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: About how about the fighting? How about the Vikings fourteen

1162
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 3: wins they're on the road against the Rams ten wins

1163
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 3: out How does that make any sense?

1164
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 6: That does make sense, But it's also an outlier, and

1165
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,479
Speaker 6: it doesn't happen if.

1166
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: It's not an outlier. It's happened many times where I

1167
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 3: could go back to what the how many Saints happened?

1168
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 6: Like, I'm honestly curious, I don't know, I'm curious how

1169
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 6: many times it has happened. I'd be willing to bet

1170
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 6: it's happened less than ten times, and almost and almost.

1171
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 5: Like, look, I understand how that that looks on paper,

1172
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 5: But then but then, I mean, if you're going to

1173
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 5: trust subjectively college football, then you need to go a

1174
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 5: little bit deeper than surface level records.

1175
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 4: Brian.

1176
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 5: You have to look subjectively at the fact that the

1177
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 5: Rams also have a Hall of Fame quarterback, you know

1178
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like they have a potential Hall of

1179
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 5: Fame coach.

1180
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 4: I mean, like, if you're only going.

1181
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 5: To lend context and subjectivity to one side of the debate,

1182
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 5: you're missing the whole point. Like the Rams had a

1183
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 5: very good season, Yeah, they're hosting a team who has

1184
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 5: three more wins than them in a postseason, and that

1185
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 5: doesn't make sense on paper.

1186
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 4: But when you look deeper at it, it makes a

1187
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: lot of sense.

1188
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: Okay, it makes sense because they have a Hall of

1189
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: Fame quarterback and a notable head coach who and they

1190
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 3: still had four fewer wins. How what are we doing here?

1191
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 3: We're making something so simple, way too complicated. Yeah, but

1192
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: you have more wits. What was more impressive was it

1193
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: the Vikings in the NFC North as a wildcard team

1194
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: winning fourteen games, right alongside the Lions, alongside you know,

1195
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 3: the Packers. Those are double digit win teams. More impressive

1196
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: what the Vikings did last year fourteen and three or

1197
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 3: the Rams ten and seven?

1198
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 4: Like, how did anybody a postseason?

1199
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 5: Briand the Rams almost white the Eagles.

1200
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: They were the only team they were right there.

1201
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 3: But that's not the point. We're talking about their resume

1202
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 3: in the regular season.

1203
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: I don't subjectivity to one side. The Vikings looked like

1204
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 4: trash in the postseason.

1205
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

1206
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter what their rectivity matters in college foot

1207
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 8: arguments that on paper, records only matter in the NFL

1208
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 8: then your argument is moot.

1209
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 4: It makes no sense.

1210
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 3: You don't make any sense at all.

1211
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: Done zero.

1212
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 3: Okay, So we can play a game with college football

1213
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: and look at their records and look at what they

1214
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 3: did in the postseason. Look at the Oregon Ducks, the

1215
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: number one team in the country got crushed by Ohio State.

1216
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 3: Did they not deserve to be a number one seed?

1217
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: Should they have been ranked twelfth based on what they

1218
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: did against Ohio State? That makes no sense at You're

1219
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 3: not making a shred of sense right now.

1220
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 5: No, No, What makes no sense is arguing a point

1221
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 5: for one side and then arguing a completely different point

1222
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 5: for the other side, which is what you're doing in

1223
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 5: this argument.

1224
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: No, what are you talking about. It doesn't make sense

1225
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: that college football. It makes sense that college football has said, Okay,

1226
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: it's not good enough just to win your trash conference.

1227
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 3: You don't automatically get a top four seed. You have

1228
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: to have a record that's great. You have to play somebody,

1229
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 3: beat somebody. Okay. And the NFL they don't do it

1230
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 3: that way. They're like, oh, okay, you won your division,

1231
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: step right up, who cares bigger?

1232
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 5: Every division is good. And that's the truth because in

1233
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 5: college every conference isn't good.

1234
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: And you know NFC South is good. The NFC South

1235
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 3: is good. What are you talking?

1236
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 5: Every year every division has two teams that can that can,

1237
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 5: that can make serious noise in the postseason.

1238
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 4: And you know it, don't college each conference is even equitable.

1239
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 3: And that's the that is that's not true in the NFL.

1240
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 3: And you know that's true. All right, we're so late

1241
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: right now, we'll get to uh. We got Rich Orenberger

1242
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: making no sense today, but he is a Penn State

1243
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,240
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1244
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,240
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Speaker 1: This follow the money, real good money.

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Speaker 4: Ah.

1257
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 3: Yes, we welcome in our good friend, Seamus McGee, team

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1259
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Speaker 3: so four games in I guess to the conference finals

1260
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: in the NBA Playoffs in both series are two to oh.

1261
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 3: Is this a good outcome or a bad outcome for

1262
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 3: the book?

1263
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, Gritzie back, you know, it comes both ways. I'd

1264
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 9: say that we love seeing the Thunder up two to

1265
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 9: oh in this series. The Timberwolves to win the West

1266
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 9: and win the finals is not a great result for

1267
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 9: our book. So we're really happy to see how that

1268
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 9: series is going right now. And honestly, we'd really prefer

1269
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 9: the Nicks get into the finals. A. It's a better

1270
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 9: result for the book and B. I think a Knicks

1271
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 9: Thunder series would definitely cruse a better handle. But it's

1272
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 9: not like we've been getting you know, crushed on these

1273
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 9: first two games in the Eastern Conference series. So right

1274
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 9: now everything's looking.

1275
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 6: Okay, seam, it's what's your thought on the NFL seating

1276
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 6: when it comes to Division No, I'm just kidding.

1277
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: We're not gonna get that.

1278
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 9: I'm gonna tread lightly on that one.

1279
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: You'll get kicked off.

1280
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 4: The show is a huge Minnesota Vikings face.

1281
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 3: I'm pro logic. If you're anti logic, we got issues here.

1282
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: We can't go down that road right now.

1283
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 6: We were still cooling off after what was a fun

1284
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 6: segment in our last segment. All right, I think the

1285
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 6: overall vibe for the Knicks, and again, I know you're

1286
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 6: a Knicks fan and Knicks fan series over right, Like

1287
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 6: it's done, You're going back to Indiana down two? Oh

1288
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 6: you just you can't seem to figure out a way

1289
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 6: to push the right buttons against this Pacers team.

1290
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 2: It looks like they're a step ahead of every move.

1291
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 6: TIBs is putting in Mitchell Robinson off the bat, who

1292
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 6: knows we might even get to see you know, some

1293
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 6: other and the player off the bench in game three.

1294
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 6: But sell me on a positive spin for the Knicks, Like,

1295
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 6: what does need to happen? Because I know sports and

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Speaker 6: random anything can happen. What needs to happen? What adjustments

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01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 6: can TIBs make? Is there anything that can slow down

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01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 6: the Spacers team? Like, sell me positively on how the

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01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 6: next thing, get back in this series.

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Speaker 9: There you think the series is, this is crazy, tell

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 9: you what, I don't.

1302
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: Think it is over.

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01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 9: I'm boots on the ground in Indianapolis right now. I'm

1304
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 9: doing the Bricks and Knicks. On Sunday, we're doing the PROD.

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01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: We're going to.

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Speaker 9: Indie Game three. I'm gonna make a difference. I'm gonna

1307
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 9: take matters of the mine own hands, and I'm going

1308
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 9: to get a Nick win for New York. Love that,

1309
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 9: But you know, in all seriousness, the first thing Tims

1310
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 9: has to do is, in my opinion, he realizes far

1311
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 9: too much on this starting rotation that is statistically the

1312
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 9: worst for the worst uit they have. I think Dudas

1313
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 9: McBride probablys to play more. He could have played, I

1314
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 9: think a little better, especially in that second half. I

1315
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 9: don't know what to do with campaign because you got

1316
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 9: to rotate guys in. But he did not have a

1317
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 9: good game at all last night. And I think I

1318
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 9: think this queak to make as you move mentioned the

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01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 9: starting lineup, Josh Hard and the bench off the take

1320
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 9: them off the bench. I think that's the movie you

1321
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 9: gotta do. But you know, we'll see The Knicks could

1322
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 9: very easily be up two zero in this series. They're

1323
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 9: two very close losses. They choked game one, so we'll see.

1324
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,879
Speaker 9: I mean this could easily two oh Nicks.

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01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 5: Right now, Which underdog would you be most comfortable playing

1326
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 5: placing a futures bet on to win the finals?

1327
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 4: Knicks or t Wolves nixt.

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01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 9: I think that Thunder are if it isn't like ice

1329
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 9: as a Knicks fan, I think that Thunder are just

1330
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 9: that good. They finally, I think down their stride after

1331
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 9: you know, you know, if they got to the conference finals,

1332
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 9: that they weren't really you know, paying the thunder basketball

1333
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 9: we were accustomed to in the regular season. This is

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01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 9: a team that is the best point differential in the

1335
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 9: history of the of the NBA right now this season.

1336
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 9: So I definitely feel more comfortable if I was back

1337
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 9: in the Knicks, then it would be back in the

1338
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 9: Timberlves in the opps say so, I think the Knicks

1339
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 9: are four hundred plus four hunds down two oh, and

1340
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 9: I think we have eleven to one on the Timberwolves

1341
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 9: to come back.

1342
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: Are there any prop bets in terms of handle that

1343
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 3: has caught your attention where it's like, wow, Holy cow,

1344
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 3: the public they're just crushing Karl Anthony Towns over points

1345
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: or anything like that in these first two series. Here

1346
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 3: in the conference finals.

1347
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 9: I think you just see some more you know, elevated

1348
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 9: handle in some popular props like Brunton to score thirty plus.

1349
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 9: It gets hit every day. Frankly, it's kind of a

1350
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 9: point where his you know, main line is sitting thereund

1351
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 9: thirty and a half every game. You have the three

1352
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 9: point shots, I mean we everyone loves betting the first

1353
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 9: basket scores. We even have a bunch of like pretty

1354
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 9: niche you know stuff round three pointers, like anyone who

1355
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 9: hit a forty foot or forty five foot three pointer

1356
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 9: you can bet on that. So we have a lot

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 9: of really cool quick hitter markets too on the site.

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01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 9: I think everyone should go check out.

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Speaker 6: I loved it because I gave out on one of

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01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 6: the other bet MGM shows last week. I said brunts

1361
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 6: in to score forty at any point in the series

1362
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 6: was mispriced at plus one thirty, and game one, boom,

1363
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 6: we hit it.

1364
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: I think the way that you guys price a.

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 6: Lot of those specials are very intriguing because you would

1366
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 6: think on paper, wait, really plus one thirty, Like at

1367
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 6: some point Brentston's gonna score forty.

1368
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 2: He did it against the Pacers last year.

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Speaker 6: So I encourage everyone to go to to BETEMGM and

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01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 6: don't just click on the props, like go to all

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Speaker 6: the special pages. Go to every you know, no stone unturned,

1372
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 6: because you're gonna find some interesting props there.

1373
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 2: In the NHL side, we don't talk about Puck.

1374
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 6: A lot on the show, but we're getting to that

1375
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 6: point where we're gonna discuss it a little bit.

1376
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: Is it inevitable?

1377
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 6: I know, you get you know, you know, you get

1378
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 6: a two to zero Panthers Hurricanes, even though a lot

1379
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 6: of people thought Carolina was maybe the better team anything

1380
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 6: tonight in Game three, Caroline is about a plus one

1381
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 6: thirty dog. Do we think that they are live in

1382
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 6: this series? Down two oh or as Florida just too big,

1383
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 6: too strong, too fast.

1384
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 9: The betting public so far seems to think that the

1385
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 9: Panthers are gonna go up three. We're pretty so far,

1386
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 9: pretty lopsided on the Panthers' money line. We'll see with

1387
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 9: the money lands by Puck trop But yeah, it's just

1388
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 9: been all Panthers. I really didn't see this coming. I

1389
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 9: thought if there was going to be a year for

1390
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 9: the Hurricanes, It's probably gonna be this one. But the

1391
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 9: Panthers have just been, you know, on fire against this team,

1392
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,799
Speaker 9: and the betters have started to take notice on the Panthers.

1393
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1394
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 5: I mean, we got plenty of action on a race

1395
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 5: day weekend and then obviously two different postseasons going on.

1396
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 4: But we know NFL is king.

1397
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 5: I'm curious if there's much action on MVP futures based

1398
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 5: on schedules coming out.

1399
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is the favorite. Do you guys, when do

1400
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 4: you see the flurry of.

1401
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 5: Futures in the NFL come for individual individual awards and

1402
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 5: things like that.

1403
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 9: I think you really start seeing it around training camp

1404
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 9: when guys start coming in and all the beat reporters

1405
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 9: start pounding the drum for certain guys, Like I remember

1406
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 9: Lamar's first MVP run, like he didn't look that great

1407
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 9: throwing the ball his rookie year. But then you know,

1408
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 9: all this stuff was coming out of Ravens camp about

1409
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 9: how great he looks at and you know, you see

1410
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 9: a ton of money coming in. That's just like one example,

1411
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 9: and I think you'll see it even more, Like I

1412
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 9: watched Caleb Williams just pick up a lot of steam

1413
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 9: during training camp for MVP.

1414
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Seamus, it's time for your seamous special.

1415
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 3: What do you have for us today?

1416
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 9: We're gonna go back to the Diamond and we're gonna

1417
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 9: go to the Summit League Baseball Championship. We're gonna take

1418
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 9: North Dakota State over Oral Roberts in a big upset,

1419
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 9: and they're gonna go dance on. If they're gonna go,

1420
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 9: they're gonna have a shot to go to Omaha.

1421
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 5: When you said the Diamond, I'm figuring we might get

1422
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 5: like a Cubs game, a run line.

1423
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 4: No, we're going Oral.

1424
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: ORALI on the show.

1425
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 9: God, oh right around the corner, guys, you gotta.

1426
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 3: Get rid there it is, I like you, you're you're already, man,

1427
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 3: you're tailgating already. Guys. Okay, so, uh, bricks and knicks,

1428
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 3: Do you have any uh you know, eighty five hundred

1429
01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 3: insight for us before you go?

1430
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 9: I have absolutely none. You know, I brought myself. I

1431
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 9: know a lot about sports. I can't name you a

1432
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 9: single driver that's gonna be on.

1433
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 2: The rid tomorrow. How about the bet MGM three hundred

1434
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: in NASCAR?

1435
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 4: Later today?

1436
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 6: How about that we get the bed MGM three hundred.

1437
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 6: Is it a big weekend for NASCAR at the book?

1438
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 9: I think it should be, especially in Indiana, Like we

1439
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 9: get some decent action out of here. It's a big

1440
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 9: great say, like we got you know, the Exfinity today,

1441
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 9: Tomorrow we got the Indy five hundred, and then he's

1442
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 9: going into that and we have the Coca Cola six hundred.

1443
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 9: So it should be a really good racing handle this weekend.

1444
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 9: We're looking forward to it.

1445
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 3: I love it all right, Seamus, great stuff as always. Man,

1446
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: hope you have a fantastic weekend. We'll catch you soon. Thanks, guys,

1447
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 3: have a good weekend you too.

1448
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 2: There.

1449
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: He is Seamus McGee, team lead of Sports Trading at

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Speaker 3: BET MGM.

1451
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Speaker 4: I love the honesty.

1452
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: Is like I can't name one driver, but I'm going

1453
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a great time.

1454
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 6: It's gonna be make and Nick No, It's fantastic, fantastic, Yeah, idioms.

1455
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 3: I'll tell you a very quick story. So I was

1456
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: doing some fill in for an Indianapol the station. I

1457
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 3: still do, but it was a couple of years ago

1458
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: when we got to interview two of the drivers that

1459
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 3: were going to be in the race, and so I

1460
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 3: got to go to the race that year, and I'm

1461
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: walking up there and I'm thinking, all right, I'm gonna

1462
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 3: put one hundred bucks on each of these two drivers

1463
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 3: I interviewed, and then I looked at one of the odds.

1464
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 3: It was forty to one, and right before I hit er,

1465
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just throwing two hundred dollars away.

1466
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 4: Why would I do that?

1467
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: And then one of those guys won the race. I

1468
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 3: would have won four thousand dollars, but I didn't. Joseph

1469
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 3: Neugarten won the race, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, unnoingable New Garden.

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01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's great, you know, pass and turned four

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Speaker 3: and want it in thrilling fashion. I'm like, I that's

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Speaker 3: my money right there, right right in front of me,

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01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 3: is turns right in front of me. Have you guys said, no,

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01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 3: I don't have four thousand dollars.

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01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: Have you bet it before? I used to bet it back?

1477
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 9: Oh?

1478
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

1479
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: Anymore?

1480
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

1481
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 3: I used to, but yeah not right now? Used to

1482
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 3: though for sure. Hey we've got rich oron Berger, Penn

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Speaker 3: bonus bets if you don't win your first bet.

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01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 4: All right, let's do this.

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: Prop it up player plays.

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01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 3: All right, the betting market, Jared, we start with you

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01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 3: with something you have circled.

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01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's obvious to me what the strategy

1516
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 6: is from Minnesota in this series. And maybe they're being

1517
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 6: four sped these three point shots, but they have attempted

1518
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 6: ninety three point shots through the first two games of

1519
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 6: this series, fifty one in game one, thirty nine in

1520
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 6: game two. It kind of reminds you of what the

1521
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 6: Boston Celtics did in their series against the Knicks.

1522
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 2: Now Boston is a three point shooting team.

1523
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 6: I think Minnesota's hand is being forced by what has

1524
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 6: been a great thunder defense so far, at least a

1525
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 6: great defense strategy. But when you're at home, I think

1526
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 6: that's when the shots might start falling. So let's target

1527
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 6: two role players and maybe one star for our three

1528
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 6: point market tonight. I'm gonna bet all three of these.

1529
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 6: All three are at plus money. Nikhil Alexander Walker over

1530
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 6: one and a half three point makes. He's averaging six

1531
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 6: and a half attempts per game in the series. Had

1532
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 6: two makes in game one, three makes in game two.

1533
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 6: Jaden McDaniels over one and a half. He has eleven

1534
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 6: attempts in two games. Again, you're anny plus money on

1535
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 6: guys that are attempting four or five six threes per game.

1536
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 6: You only need him to make two, and then Anthony

1537
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 6: Edwards plus money on over three and a half three

1538
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 6: point makes. I don't have to tell you the volume

1539
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 6: with eight with ant Man, he has just been jacking

1540
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 6: up shots from all.

1541
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 2: Over the yard.

1542
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 6: So I think two, maybe all three of these guys

1543
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 6: are gonna attempt at least six seven eight threes tonight,

1544
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 6: and I think the numbers are relatively fair for you

1545
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 6: to bet over on some of the t wolves in

1546
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 6: the three point market tonight.

1547
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 5: Give me Julius Randall and give me him over the

1548
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 5: eighteen and a half points on the prim Here's the

1549
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 5: reason why. In Game two was his Pever playoff choker

1550
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 5: six points.

1551
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 4: That's not who he is.

1552
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 5: He averaged over eighteen points all regular season one. He's

1553
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 5: been solid in terms of an offensive performer in the Postseacon.

1554
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, game two, you can set that one

1555
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 5: aside and you can look forward to a game three

1556
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 5: where he's effective and he has to be.

1557
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 4: And also there's a little bit of the pressure valve. Op.

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01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you're already in a two to zero hole.

1559
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 5: It feels like an inevitability is here and it's okay. See,

1560
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna get his points. Give me the

1561
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 5: over on the eighteen and a half for Julius Randall.

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01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 3: Okay, I like a couple of fades. I like what

1563
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 3: both of you guys are thinking, by the way, but

1564
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 3: a couple of fades here. I mentioned this earlier in

1565
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 3: the show. Mitchell Robinson of the Knicks under seven and

1566
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 3: a half rebounds. This is risky because he's been a

1567
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 3: rebounding machine so far in this series, and he got

1568
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 3: more minutes last game, but he rolled his ankle a

1569
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 3: little bit, you know, and Regie Miller talked about this

1570
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 3: big man with a lower body injury. See how he

1571
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: responds the next game. And also with Tibbs giving him

1572
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 3: major minutes in the fourth quarter and it not working

1573
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 3: out whatsoever, I expect his minutes to go down a

1574
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 3: little bit. So Mitchell Robinson in terms of rebounds this series.

1575
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 3: Eight in game one, nine in game two, and we're

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01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: going under seven and a half. So I get it's

1577
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 3: a little risky, a little dicey, but I think it's

1578
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 3: minutes go down. I think Kat plays more and I'm

1579
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,759
Speaker 3: gonna take Mitchell Robinson under seven and a half rebounds. Also,

1580
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 3: it's kind of correlated with what you're thinking Rich with

1581
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 3: Julius Randall. It look for him to get back to

1582
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 3: his scoring ways. He's hit twenty points in nine of

1583
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 3: twelve playoff games this year. That's pretty good. He's off

1584
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 3: a colossal stinker. So the good zig zag spot. How

1585
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 3: about fading his assists? This is plus money on under

1586
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 3: four and a half. You know how many assists he's

1587
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 3: had through two games one he's had one assist. And

1588
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 3: if he's looking to score more, probably not looking to

1589
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 3: pass first. So I think under four and a half

1590
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 3: for plus money is a decent wager.

1591
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 4: I like that a lot. I like that a lot. Man.

1592
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 4: It might be it might be the same game, parlay

1593
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 4: on the same player.

1594
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 3: You go there, you go right, yeah, sgp it with

1595
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: the same guy, no doubt, all right, come it up?

1596
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 3: Next is this the craziest of the crazy you've ever seen?

1597
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 3: Was this the craziest of the crazy? We'll dive into

1598
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 3: that momentarily. Hey, you can stream the show and all

1599
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,040
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1601
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1602
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1603
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1604
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Speaker 3: sure to preset Fox Sports Radio and in the iHeartRadio

1606
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,640
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Speaker 3: your screens.

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Speaker 4: Hope.

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01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 3: Uh, your Saturday is off to a great start. So

1610
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 3: game one. We go back to Game one of the

1611
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Finals when the Pacers had that insane comeback

1612
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 3: against the Knicks. The Knicks reportedly had a ninety nine

1613
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 3: point seven percent chance to win the game. That's how

1614
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 3: likely it was they're gonna win. This is actually pretty funny.

1615
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: I'll bring BETMGM into the equation here, But you know

1616
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 3: these cash out options that they provide. One of my

1617
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 3: live bets on the Pacers to win the game was

1618
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: looking so bad. It was just a little Pizza money.

1619
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 3: Bet I took Pacers to win the game. I just

1620
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 3: put twenty five bucks on it. It looked so bad.

1621
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 3: Bet MGM offered me a cash out for three cents.

1622
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 3: That's what they were offering me, Like, hey, you can

1623
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: cash out and save three cents. That's how bad it

1624
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 3: looks right now. And the Pacers won that game. Just insanity.

1625
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 3: The Haliburton shot to tie the game looked like it

1626
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 3: was a game winner. It was a two point shot,

1627
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 3: so it tied. It forced overtime. It was insanity. And this,

1628
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 3: I mean, we bring in Korean TV to really set

1629
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 3: the scene here, right so on s p O TV.

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01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: I'm guessing I don't know, apologies if that's wrong. This

1631
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 3: is how it sounded that Halliburton shot that forced overtime.

1632
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 3: That's that's beautiful. I don't know what they're saying, but

1633
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 3: they're excited about Haliburton hitting the shot. So the question is,

1634
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 3: was that the craziest game you've ever seen? And if

1635
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 3: it's not, what else do you have on the short

1636
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 3: list of just mind blowing either endings or games in general.

1637
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 3: Where do you put that on your list?

1638
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,839
Speaker 4: Rich? I mean, it was pretty mind bending.

1639
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 5: I don't know where it lands on the list because

1640
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 5: I haven't really given it much the but I guess,

1641
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 5: I guess, given that the stakes weren't unbelievably high in

1642
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 5: the moment, you know, it gets shuffled down a few pegs,

1643
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 5: But what a performance, what a finish, and then you know,

1644
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 5: you fast forward to where we're at now, and again,

1645
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 5: like the inevitability we're talking about in both of these

1646
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 5: conference finals, that obviously lended itself to that picture becoming

1647
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 5: much much clearer, especially after Game two.

1648
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll give you some that I was thinking about

1649
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 6: this week because we did a segment on another show

1650
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 6: about crazy comebacks and what were the what was the

1651
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,959
Speaker 6: most crazy, like the craziest comeback you've seen recently?

1652
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: One of them that came to mind.

1653
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,440
Speaker 6: Well, actually, it's funny because I think there's two Chicago

1654
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 6: games that come to mind.

1655
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 2: You have the Bears Commanders.

1656
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,520
Speaker 6: That one always sticks out to me, right, the Stevenson

1657
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 6: play where he's you know, the hail Mary where he's

1658
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 6: looking at the.

1659
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: Crowd and then and then you I mean that's just

1660
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: that one is just insane.

1661
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 6: And then the other one is a doink, right, the

1662
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 6: double doink with Cody Parky because you know, the Halliburton

1663
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 6: shot was was a doink shot, So you know, I

1664
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 6: was thinking about what other doinks have been just insane

1665
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 6: over the last decade or so.

1666
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 2: That one really sticks out. I think what other comebacks

1667
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: I think stick out?

1668
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 9: You know what?

1669
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 4: That one?

1670
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, real quick, good one. It's a different sport.

1671
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 5: But I again, because like this, I get we're talking

1672
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 5: postseason versus regular season, but you know, because we're not

1673
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 5: talking about a game seven, we're not talking about.

1674
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 4: A series clinching moment. Do you remember it was?

1675
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 5: Man, it was right after the pandemic, so maybe it

1676
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 5: was the twenty twenty two season, twenty twenty three season,

1677
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 5: but either way, in the NFL, the Minnesota Vikings fell

1678
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 5: behind the Colts thirty three, oh yeah halftime and came

1679
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 5: all the way back to win that game.

1680
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, Yeah, I just remember thinking in.

1681
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 5: That moment, like we're we're just never gonna see something

1682
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 5: like that again. And I guess, yeah, that's that's where

1683
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 5: this one sort of lands. In that realm of I

1684
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,879
Speaker 5: don't know if we'll ever see that level of a comeback,

1685
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 5: in that spirited of a fashion in a game that

1686
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 5: really matters the way that Patriots.

1687
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 2: I got wonder, how about the Dodgers the Yankees in

1688
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: the World Series. Oh, good one, Yeah, when the Yankees

1689
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 2: had that big lead and yeah and Aaron Judge dropped

1690
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: the ball.

1691
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 3: I you know, I would throw out the Patriots coming

1692
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 3: back against the Falcons when it was twenty eight to

1693
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 3: three at that stage, I'm like, this is beat down

1694
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 3: city and all of a sudden the Patriots come all

1695
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 3: the way back forth over time, that that was the

1696
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 3: one that blew my mind the most, because, yeah, I

1697
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 3: think you have to think about the stage and look, man,

1698
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 3: Game one of the Eastern Conference Finals is a big stage.

1699
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 3: It's not the super Bowl stage. Because we've seen crazy comeback. Gosh,

1700
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 3: you could go back to the regular season in the

1701
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:10,480
Speaker 3: NBA this year where the Timberwolves came back against OKC

1702
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 3: on the road. OKAC was leading by i want to say,

1703
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 3: about twenty two points in the fourth quarter, something insane

1704
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 3: like that, and the t Wolves came all the way

1705
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 3: back won that game. So we've seen wild stuff like that,

1706
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 3: but just the way that unfolded, I'd say in the

1707
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 3: postseason this year as well in the NBA, where there

1708
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,560
Speaker 3: were a couple of games with the Knicks against the

1709
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 3: Celtics where they're down by twenty and I remember Game

1710
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 3: two on the road, and it's like, Okay, they hit

1711
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 3: a couple of shots. That's nice, that's cute. Like they're

1712
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 3: only down by seven and you're not even really watching,

1713
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 3: thinking they're live to win this game, and lo and behold,

1714
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 3: they did that. So there have been some wild ones,

1715
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 3: but man, that Pacers one with Nie Smith catching fire

1716
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 3: and the Halliburton shot and the history with the choke sign.

1717
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 3: That's it had every if that I'll put it this way,

1718
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 3: if that's a movie, you walk out saying these writers

1719
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 3: need to be fired immediately. That's the dumbest scripts. And

1720
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 3: it happened. It was real life. It's crazy, and I

1721
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 3: was a.

1722
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 2: Fan of the team that was on the ass end

1723
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: of it, So put yourself in that mindset. I was

1724
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,839
Speaker 2: sitting there. I was sitting there. I was stunned.

1725
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 6: I was I tweeted out speechless, and I'm rarely you

1726
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 6: guys know me, I'm rarely speechless. I had no words

1727
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 6: because they're really even up until the moment that that

1728
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 6: shot went in, I was still thinking to myself, it

1729
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 6: was really the miss free throws. That when I was

1730
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 6: even when the Pacers were coming back, I was like,

1731
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 6: the Knicks are gonna pull this out, Like the Pacers

1732
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 6: are gonna make it close. I feel bad for anyone

1733
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 6: who late four and a half are gonna lose, but

1734
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 6: the Knicks are gonna win this game. And then they

1735
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 6: started missing the free throws. Cat an og both miss

1736
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 6: free throws, and I'm like, all right, I guess now

1737
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 6: it's kind of live. And then even when the ball

1738
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 6: was off the back rim and went it went like

1739
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 6: ten feet up in the air off the rim.

1740
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 2: I was like, all right. And then the way you

1741
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: know is.

1742
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 6: Because you know and you're watching on TV, the depth

1743
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 6: perceptions off the way that you know that the ball

1744
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 6: has a chance to go in. All of the players

1745
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 6: underneath the basket, instead of jumping to try to get

1746
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 6: the rebound, they just look up and then you're like,

1747
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 6: uh oh.

1748
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 2: This one might go in.

1749
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 6: And it goes right down in and I thought the

1750
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 6: game was over. And here's the worst part about it.

1751
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 6: This is the worst part about it. I had a

1752
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 6: ticket on Tyres Halliburton over four and a half May

1753
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 6: threes at.

1754
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: Seven to one, and so I thought all right, Well,

1755
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: the Knicks lost the game.

1756
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, but at least at least I won the Halliburton

1757
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 6: seven to one ticket because he just hit a dagger

1758
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 6: three to win the game, and then it wasn't a three,

1759
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 6: it was a two. And then he didn't hit a

1760
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 6: three in overtime, and I lost not only the Knicks

1761
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 6: but also the Haliburton bed.

1762
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 2: It was just the comedy of errors.

1763
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 8: Man.

1764
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 5: Wow, Now when you explain what was behind that tweet, speechless,

1765
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 5: it all makes perfect because because there are no words

1766
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 5: for that level level you know it is. It is true,

1767
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 5: you said, Brian about the stage because game one. As

1768
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 5: we all know of any of these seven game series,

1769
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 5: whether you're talking basketball or baseball, I mean, they can

1770
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 5: be so integral to the outcome of the series.

1771
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes not.

1772
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 5: You know, obviously we've seen deficits erased. And when we're

1773
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 5: talking about one game deficit, you're not talking about much

1774
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 5: when we're really panning out and looking at the entirety

1775
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 5: of the remainder.

1776
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 4: Of a series.

1777
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 5: But it can set the tone and and or it

1778
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,839
Speaker 5: can ignite a flame. In the case of the Knicks

1779
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 5: and Knicks fans, the sincere hope was a flame would

1780
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,919
Speaker 5: have been ignited. For the Pacers, I think it imbued

1781
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 5: them with the confidence that they played with. It carried

1782
01:29:56,160 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 5: over into Game two, and now it feels like we're

1783
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 5: seeing this play out before it actually plays out. So

1784
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 5: what a win for the Pacers. What a Game two

1785
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 5: for the Pacers? You know, to talk about another win.

1786
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 4: I'm very curious how the rest of this series goes.

1787
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 5: I think everything we've said to this point is pretty

1788
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 5: accurate about this series. The only thing I'll add, you know,

1789
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 5: just to mix it up a little bit, is if

1790
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 5: the Knicks somehow force this into an even series, which

1791
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 5: I don't forecast, but if they somehow win too straight here,

1792
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 5: I mean, you have to make an argument that the

1793
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 5: Knicks they could potentially win the finals. And this is

1794
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 5: the argument I made in I think it was the

1795
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 5: early portion of their second series in the postseason, and

1796
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 5: I remember the two of you were.

1797
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 4: Like, what are you talking about? But here they are

1798
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 4: in the Eastern Conference Finals.

1799
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 5: It sort of proves the point that anything really is

1800
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 5: anything really is possible in this year's postseason because there's

1801
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 5: been so much parody this year.

1802
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 3: I agree, man, well, hey it's it's possible, But they

1803
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 3: are up against it. You know that that pace of

1804
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 3: the pacers, the depth of the pacers that I think

1805
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 3: that what you're laying out though, is it's like the

1806
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 3: mental battle. If you're a Knicks player, you really have

1807
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 3: to look at this as an opportunity and not like, man,

1808
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 3: we're in an O two hole and we should be

1809
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 3: up to nothing, you know what I mean, Like those

1810
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 3: mental games that you play with yourself matter a ton,

1811
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 3: and that is tough to wrap your mind around. Hey,

1812
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 3: this is a golden opportunity because right now it feels

1813
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 3: like we let such an opportunity already slip through our fingers.

1814
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 3: And the one thing I'd throw out there that was

1815
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 3: interesting in that crazy comeback that you know applies to

1816
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 3: all games in the NBA going forward, is the way

1817
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle used his challenges because think of this, So

1818
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,759
Speaker 3: the Knicks are up by five late and the Knicks

1819
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 3: got fouled, and Rick Carlile challenged the call and it

1820
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 3: was overturned. Where Siakam went and challenged the shot and

1821
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 3: it was a clean block, and all of a sudden,

1822
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 3: that file gets overturned. So instead of the Knicks going

1823
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 3: to the free throw line up five with a chance

1824
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 3: to be up by seven. The Pacers got the ball

1825
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 3: and hit a three, cut it to a two point lead.

1826
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 3: And so what's interesting is you see this all game

1827
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 3: long in the NBA. It could be the first two

1828
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 3: minutes of the game and someone's like, challenge it, challenge it,

1829
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 3: like twirling their index finger, and it's like, yeah, you

1830
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 3: might win that challenge, but best case scenario, you have

1831
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 3: one challenge left for the entirety of the game, and

1832
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 3: it might not be worth it to win that challenge

1833
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 3: that early on. And so I thought that was really

1834
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 3: really interesting where Carlile did a great job of And

1835
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 3: there have been times where I remember Neath Smith is

1836
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 3: like challenge it, challenge it, and Carlisle's like, yeah, we're

1837
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 3: not gonna do that. We would just have possession in

1838
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 3: the second quarter, like let's hold on to it a

1839
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 3: little bit. But I think that, you know, that mindset

1840
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 3: and net approach is really interesting because there are teams

1841
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 3: that are like, hey, we're gonna win it. We've got

1842
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,799
Speaker 3: a one hundred percent chance of winning it. Why wouldn't

1843
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 3: we challenge it? And it's like, well, that's an example

1844
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 3: why you don't, because you've got to have a challenge

1845
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 3: left for a situation like that.

1846
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1847
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 5: And more to the point that you've made often on

1848
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 5: this show, especially this basketball season because of the firings

1849
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,440
Speaker 5: that happened in quick succession leading up to the postseason

1850
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 5: with Memphis and Denver both. Uh.

1851
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 4: This is where coaching does matter.

1852
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 5: This This is that like that the gamesmanship and the

1853
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 5: strategy went to use timeouts when to use challenges those

1854
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 5: sort of things. The veteran head coaches who have more

1855
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 5: playoff experience, or the veteran head coaches who have had,

1856
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 5: you know, a tremendous amount of game experience as players

1857
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,719
Speaker 5: who are now transitioning to being coaches in the NBA,

1858
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 5: and they can sort of see the forest before the trees.

1859
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 5: They have an idea of what the whole picture looks

1860
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 5: at looks like as opposed to reacting to scenarios as

1861
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 5: they come. That is to the benefit of teams with

1862
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 5: better coaches. And I agree with you on the front,

1863
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 5: on the Carlisle front, that that shows patience and it shows.

1864
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 4: A willful.

1865
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 5: Obligation to not just the now, but to the future,

1866
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 5: even if you're talking about the same game, because you

1867
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 5: can be haunted by decisions in you know, the first

1868
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 5: and second quarter, throughout the game or early in a half,

1869
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 5: throughout a half.

1870
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of good things that Rick Carlile

1871
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 6: has done in this series that I think maybe goes

1872
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 6: without saying. But the biggest thing has been how he's

1873
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 6: used the bench and the rotation and the buttons. He's

1874
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 6: pushed with the players in the game. The thing that

1875
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 6: makes Indiana so tough, And this is what makes okay

1876
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 6: See so tough.

1877
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 2: Who do you? Who do you double?

1878
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 6: You double Haliburton, who's actually a true point guard and

1879
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 6: wants to get everyone else involved. Well, if you double Halliburton,

1880
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 6: you're gonna have an open shots by the rest of

1881
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 6: the team all night. You double Siakam, well then you're

1882
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 6: gonna give Haliburton open shots. And all of a sudden,

1883
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 6: Nie Smith gets hot, Well, now you have to double

1884
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 6: it one now, Like there's there's not a number one option.

1885
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 6: They're all really balanced, and that's what makes okay See

1886
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 6: really tough too. Obviously sg A is the is the

1887
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 6: ace of that staff, but they have multiple other guys.

1888
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 6: Jalen Williams is kind of a point forward. You get

1889
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 6: the bigs with homegron Hertenstein, Like they're just so balanced

1890
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 6: you can't take one thing away, whereas Minnesota, for example,

1891
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 6: or the Knicks you take Jalen Brunson away.

1892
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 2: All Right, what else is really gonna beat you?

1893
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 5: Like?

1894
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 6: They don't have They're they're just they're just so deep

1895
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 6: and and there's not that number one guy that they're

1896
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 6: unselfish enough to allow other players.

1897
01:35:59,560 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 4: Win on it.

1898
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 2: To give a night Game one, it was Nathan Nie Smith.

1899
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 2: Last night it was Siakam.

1900
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 6: Halliburton's been kind of the trigger man throughout this series,

1901
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 6: hitting the big shot obviously that sent it to overtime,

1902
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 6: but I think he is much more comfortable in the assistro.

1903
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 2: I think he's had eleven assists in both games. So

1904
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 2: it just it's a really tough cover.

1905
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 6: And Rick Carlisle's done a good job pushing all the

1906
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 6: buttons and getting all the guys in. You see Obie

1907
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 6: top and coming late in games like It's just it's

1908
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 6: a really difficult, uh, you know, stretch to try to

1909
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 6: scout because who do you take away?

1910
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the thing is, it's while you're explaining that,

1911
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 3: I had flashbacks to the four Pistons.

1912
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 9: You know.

1913
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 3: Chris Purfett, or technical technical producer, would love this where

1914
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 3: it's it really is a compliment to the Pacers. It's

1915
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 3: not gonna sound like it, but they really don't have

1916
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 3: a player that you need to double, right. They just

1917
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 3: collectively are so good and they move the ball really well,

1918
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 3: and they play at such a pace where they get

1919
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 3: great shots time and time again, where it's like those

1920
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 3: O four Pistons where just collectively with Chauncey and Rip

1921
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 3: Hamilton and Tayshaun and Rashid Wallace and the list goes

1922
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 3: on and Ben Wallace, like they had some really really

1923
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 3: good players, but they didn't have superstars. The Pacers don't

1924
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 3: have any superstars. Siakam is a really really good player,

1925
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 3: high level player, all star guy. Halliburton's really good, but

1926
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 3: they don't have a superstar type player. They don't have

1927
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 3: a player that's getting MVP votes, you know, So they

1928
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 3: don't have that guy that's like, man, we just can't

1929
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 3: let this dude kill us. You don't have to that

1930
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 3: guy on the on the Pacers, But they make it

1931
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 3: work with their depth and pace And I'll tell you

1932
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 3: what with Rick Carlisle and his substitution patterns, it's so

1933
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 3: different than some of these other teams, Like you get

1934
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 3: so used to it. With Denver, it's like, okay, yok

1935
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Speaker 3: it's gonna sit for the first couple of minutes in

1936
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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. This is where he gets his rest,

1937
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Speaker 3: and you kind of have a feel like Indiana watch

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Speaker 3: their games. You're like, it's like shift changes in hockey

1939
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Speaker 3: right where it's like, holy, he's in the game right now.

1940
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Speaker 3: You know he was just in for a couple of minutes.

1941
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Speaker 3: Now he's out, let's go it. It's just wild, but

1942
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Speaker 3: they make it work and they're two games away from

1943
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Speaker 3: a finals appearance.

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Speaker 4: It's wild.

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1965
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Speaker 3: so steps to success, we would like to see that

1966
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Speaker 3: in the Conference finals in the NBA. Hey, you could

1967
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Speaker 3: throw in the Carolina Hurricanes if you want. Here we

1968
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 3: hit a path towards success. We're getting crushed right by

1969
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Speaker 3: the Florida Panthers. It's two nothing and the Hurricanes have

1970
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Speaker 3: been outscored ten to two in the first two games.

1971
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Speaker 3: How about this. The Hurricanes have lost fourteen straight games

1972
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 3: in the conference finals, They've gotten swept three times in

1973
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 3: a row, and they're off to an O two start

1974
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 3: in this current conference finals matchup. So I'll listen to

1975
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Speaker 3: anything you have to say. For the Hurricanes, for the Timberwolves,

1976
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 3: for the Knicks, where does it start? Like a formula

1977
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 3: for baby steps towards success. I think one of them

1978
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 3: is Julius Randall's got to show up. He's been a

1979
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 3: big asset for them throughout the playoffs. Obviously, you can't

1980
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 3: have a six point game and expect to beat a

1981
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 3: team as talented as Okay see. And for the Knicks,

1982
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 3: I think it's your star's gotta shine and keep keep

1983
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 3: pounding them on the glass. That's one of your biggest advantages.

1984
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 3: You know, keep out rebounding the pacers, and I mean

1985
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 3: hopefully Karl Anthony Towns you get a little bit more

1986
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 3: from him and and you're able to, you know, make

1987
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 3: the Pacers look a little bit more mortal. Offensively, I

1988
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 3: think the Knicks defense really has to step up more

1989
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 3: than they have thus far. And that's easier said than done.

1990
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Speaker 3: With the pace and the depth, that's not an easy task.

1991
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Speaker 3: But you gotta get the Pacers to score closer to

1992
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 3: you know, like one oh five instead of one to fifteen.

1993
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Speaker 5: That's a big part of the Knick success. I feel like, I,

1994
01:40:53,560 --> 01:41:00,560
Speaker 5: you know, I guess to answer the question fully, it

1995
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 5: doesn't matter which sport we're talking about, hockey or basketball.

1996
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 5: When you're in a deficit in a series, or when

1997
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 5: you're down bad in a in a postseason game. In

1998
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 5: the sport that I hail from, football, what it takes

1999
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 5: to turn things around, honestly, is having a short memory.

2000
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 5: The best players I've ever played with are guys who

2001
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 5: can keep their composure, and it seems so much easier

2002
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:33,640
Speaker 5: than it actually is. Composure means the ability to eliminate

2003
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 5: even your own mistakes from the record and just start

2004
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 5: over every play. You know, it always bugs me when

2005
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 5: I see a coach or a player jawing out a

2006
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 5: ref and there's another play about to start, or you know,

2007
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:52,759
Speaker 5: like whether it's in basketball and you see a player

2008
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 5: pleading his case to the official or the referee, well

2009
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 5: the player is on the opposite side of the court,

2010
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 5: or there's you know, there are things happening in a

2011
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 5: game that you miss. There's subtle, nuanced you know, maybe

2012
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 5: if you were locked into the game, you would see

2013
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 5: a weakness in the defense, or you would see, you know,

2014
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 5: sloppiness somewhere that you could take advantage of. But getting

2015
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 5: your head outside of what the actual task is is

2016
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 5: so detrimental. And I think that's what happens to even

2017
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 5: good teams, even great teams. Sometimes they become flustered and

2018
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 5: they lose composure. The best teams even when the chips

2019
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 5: are down. You mentioned the twenty eight to three disparity

2020
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 5: that the New England Patriots were facing in the Super

2021
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 5: Bowl all those years ago, Brian. You know, we discussed

2022
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 5: the Dodgers Yankee series, Jared, Like, when it feels like

2023
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 5: the chips are stacked against you, even in a single game,

2024
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 5: you have to find the fortitude to say, all right,

2025
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:54,560
Speaker 5: that happened, and now what you know, like just completely

2026
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 5: deleted from your memory because it's the past doesn't serve

2027
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Speaker 5: you in that moment. It just doesn't because guess what,

2028
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Speaker 5: you either win or you go home. Moving forward, So

2029
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 5: what are you gonna do with the next play? What

2030
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 5: are you gonna do with the next minute, What are

2031
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 5: you gonna do with the next substitution? What are you

2032
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 5: gonna do with with the next time? The ball's in

2033
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 5: your hand? If the players and the teams that are

2034
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 5: able to erase deficits are the players and teams that

2035
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 5: can show the most composure and so it's hard advice,

2036
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 5: but you have to if you're the Knicks, or if

2037
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 5: this is hockey, or if this or if you're the

2038
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 5: t Wolves, you have to eliminate what's happened to this

2039
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 5: point and pretend like you're starting.

2040
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 4: This is over.

2041
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 6: It's the only way, in the great words of Ted Lasso,

2042
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 6: be a goldfish. Why is the goldfish the happiest of

2043
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 6: animals is because he has the shortest memory, seven second memory.

2044
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 6: And sometimes that's even in the way that the Pacers

2045
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 6: are playing offense. That even might be they might beginning

2046
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 6: head shot up.

2047
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 2: In six seconds. You might have had a six second

2048
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 2: memory when you're facing this pace team with the two wolves.

2049
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 2: It's a very simple approach. Just make shots, dude. That's it.

2050
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 4: You make shots.

2051
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:07,679
Speaker 2: You're gonna win one of these games at home.

2052
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 6: You make a lot of shots, you might win both

2053
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 6: games at home, and then you've got yourself a series.

2054
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 6: I don't think that's gonna happen. I think they'll make

2055
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 6: shots in one of the games.

2056
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 2: I think Game four would be the more likely of

2057
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 2: the two.

2058
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 6: I was actually surprised when I saw the thunder laying

2059
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 6: almost three tonight. The market's not giving Minnesota any respect

2060
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,719
Speaker 6: for home court, and I think OKC is now reached

2061
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 6: peak pricing. I think if you're laying three points with

2062
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 6: OKAC tonight.

2063
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 2: You're not making a great bet. Could they win by thirty? Absolutely?

2064
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 2: Are they the best team in the NBA.

2065
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 6: Yes, But usually you're paying attacks on the home team

2066
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 6: side when you're down two to zero in a series,

2067
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,759
Speaker 6: like home team down two zero in a series, typically

2068
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 6: the market will shade that price towards the home team,

2069
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 6: just like they were shading the price towards the Knicks

2070
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 6: last night. Knicks were a four point fav in Game

2071
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 6: one lose, their six point favorite last night lose. So

2072
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 6: the premium price that you're paying is actually on Oka

2073
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 6: see tonight, which kind of tells you everything you need

2074
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 6: to know about how the market feels about the Thunder

2075
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 6: and the Tea Wolves.

2076
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,560
Speaker 2: However, as we've alluded.

2077
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 6: To on this show and many other times, especially during

2078
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 6: the college basketball season, three.

2079
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 2: Point shot, live and die by the three.

2080
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 6: I think Minnesota will split these two games at home,

2081
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 6: but I think Oklahoma City gets it done tonight. I

2082
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 6: think they go up three to zero.

2083
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 3: Interesting, Yeah, so what's your play? Are you laying it

2084
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 3: with OKC.

2085
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 2: No, it's a bad bet.

2086
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 6: I honestly think it's not a great bet. I mean,

2087
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 6: you know, Oklahoma City was a what eight point favorite

2088
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 6: in game two. I mean, I guess you could kind

2089
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 6: of make the case they deserve to be a three

2090
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 6: point favorite because they continue to increase their rating as

2091
01:45:55,000 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 6: Minnesota's rating decreases. But if you flip it points and

2092
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 6: that's assuming three points for home court, this game should

2093
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 6: be closer to a pick them tonight. And I think

2094
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 6: now that we're up in that three point like you

2095
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 6: got like Oklahoma City's gotta win by three in order

2096
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 6: for you to win your bet, And now we're getting

2097
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 6: closer to three right now minus doing a half minus fifteen,

2098
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 6: So it just feels like you're now again Okama City

2099
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 6: win by forty and no one blink an eye. But

2100
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 6: it just feels like you're paying now the thunder premium,

2101
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 6: where typically in these spots you pay the premium on

2102
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 6: the home team down to oh gotcha.

2103
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 3: That's interesting because I'm not fighting you. It's just uh,

2104
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,560
Speaker 3: because we're not talking about NFL seating, so this is

2105
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 3: a safe zone. But uh, it's just interesting to me

2106
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 3: because you like OKAC to win tonight. But I get

2107
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 3: it you're looking at it from a value perspective, and

2108
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,759
Speaker 3: you don't see with everything you explain they were a dog.

2109
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 6: I'd bet Okay see if it was a pick them,

2110
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 6: I bed Oka see. But I think Oka See laying

2111
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 6: a full possession, like they've got to win by three.

2112
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 6: And my guess is when we get closer to game time,

2113
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 6: it might be three. It just it feels like it's

2114
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 6: just hair heavy for me.

2115
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 3: Hey, no, no, no worries with that. I just I

2116
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 3: think that's interesting, uh, you know, with because it's important

2117
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 3: for betters to know right, like you might like a side,

2118
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 3: but you don't like the number. You know, you're betting

2119
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 3: numbers here, so.

2120
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 6: Yep, but yeah, that seems always even though the NBA

2121
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 6: is weird with the numbers, like none of these games

2122
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 6: have fallen anywhere close to the number.

2123
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 2: Like Indiana as a dog won both games.

2124
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 4: Outright high and highly variable.

2125
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the and the thunder of course blew out

2126
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 6: both games was like a seven eight point favorite.

2127
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 2: So it's just I can say this in okay seq

2128
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 2: why forty and again none of us will be surprised.

2129
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 5: Well, and and also like that's that is the effect

2130
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 5: of parody, you know, that is the effect of of

2131
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 5: of well. And I mean I realized that the the finals,

2132
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 5: the conference finals have lacked what feels like parody. But

2133
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 5: I think the fact that this postseason in general, you know,

2134
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 5: you're you're having a heart time tracking. It's because when

2135
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,440
Speaker 5: teams are more evenly matched, it's harder to determine outcomes.

2136
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 5: And that's maybe what's best for the books because then

2137
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 5: you have the ability to make money no matter where

2138
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:19,800
Speaker 5: you handicap, as long as you're close somewhere. I look,

2139
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 5: I like props better in the NBA than I do,

2140
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:29,799
Speaker 5: you know, spread or totals, because it's it's really highly

2141
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 5: variable on a night in, night out, basis what five

2142
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 5: players plus bench steps are going to do in totality.

2143
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 5: Whereas you get sort of focused in based on the

2144
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 5: way series are progressing, especially in the postseason, you know,

2145
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 5: because you're getting to see the same teams play against

2146
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 5: each other, It's like, Okay, what do I think is

2147
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 5: going to be maybe the zag effect from the zig

2148
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 5: we just saw And so if a player goes off,

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01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 5: do we really think that that was a problem, Like

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01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 5: for example, Anthony Edwards. The reason why I would take

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01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,639
Speaker 5: over on a points prop for Game three is because

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01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 5: I don't think they look at Anthony Edwards as the

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01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 5: big problem. Let him eat, take care of the rest

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01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:15,680
Speaker 5: of the starters, and you have a winning formula if

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01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 5: you're facing the Tea Wolves, And that's what occurred in

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01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,600
Speaker 5: Game two. So I kind of feel good about that

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01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 5: in Game three, whereas there are other superstars where teams

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01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:28,600
Speaker 5: defensively need to statistically limit if they're going to have

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01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 5: a chance at survival.

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01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 4: I'll Jalen Brunson, you know, in some of these series.

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01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 4: So it's it's.

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01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 5: Props feel easier to track in the NBA postseason than

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01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 5: spreads your totals.

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01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 4: But maybe that changes when we get to the when

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Speaker 4: we get to the finals.

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Speaker 5: I don't forecast it, because it's been pretty even, pretty

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01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 5: even goings through the postseason so far this year.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's funny.

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01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 3: The movie Rounders just popped into my head because I'm

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01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 3: thinking about what was the quote from Doyle bru The

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01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 3: key to Texas hold them is making your opponent, like

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01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 3: forcing him into a decision for all of his chips.

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01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 3: Like apply that to sports in general. But we'll say

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01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 3: the NBA playoffs right here, think about Okac's defense. They're

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01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 3: packing the paint and they're like, we're gonna live without

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01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:22,120
Speaker 3: outside shots. And so what Minnesota has to do is

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01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 3: they have to make enough outside shots to force Minnesota

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01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 3: to force Okac to possibly change, to force them to

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01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,720
Speaker 3: make a decision for all of their chips, you know

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01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like, imagine if Game three tonight, Minnesota

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01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 3: is just they're bombing threes. They're hitting threes at a

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01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 3: high clip. Now all of a sudden, Okac is forced

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01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 3: with the decision do we stick with this, do we

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01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 3: still just pack the paint and live with these outside shots,

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01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 3: or do we start extending our defense and start guarding

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01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 3: the three point line and maybe we're a little more

2187
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 3: vulnerable for Anthony Edwards to just attack the rim. But

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01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 3: Minnesota hasn't made enough outside shots to force Okac to adjust.

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01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 3: And that's a big part of the layoffs. You have

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01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 3: to force your opponent to adjust. And that's the big

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01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 3: test for Minnesota. They have to make enough threes, enough

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01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:13,759
Speaker 3: outside shots to force Okay okay see to possibly adjust.

2193
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 3: They haven't done that yet, So I think that's the key.

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01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 3: Like Nasried just can't come off the bench and start

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01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 3: bombing misses, you know what I mean, Like Anthony Edwards

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01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 3: gotta start making more threes. He's made a lot of

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01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 3: threes in the first two series. So we'll see if

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01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 3: Minnesota can hit some outside shots. You start to see

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01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 3: the beginning of OKA see possibly needing to adjust. But

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01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 3: you haven't seen that yet. But something keep in mind.

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Speaker 3: By the way, are you guys a fan of cringe

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01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 3: worthy audio? I've got some ever ringe audio for you.

2203
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 3: So this is Aaron Rodgers. Okay, this is not gonna

2204
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:56,759
Speaker 3: be painful. Hopefully this is enjoyable cringe worthy audio. Okay,

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01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:00,560
Speaker 3: So he dropped a major hint of he might be

2206
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 3: playing in the NFL this next season, so he is funny.

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01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 3: Pro Football Talk had this story he recently sat down

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01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 3: with Joe Rogan for about three hours. No hints, no

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Speaker 3: clues about his football future. Nothing. Then this random video

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01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 3: surfaced from last weekend. This is in Austin, Texas. There's

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01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 3: this random Q and a Aaron Rodgers is on stage.

2212
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 3: He's one of the people being asked questions from fans

2213
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 3: and attendance. Apparently he was on stage with a friend

2214
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 3: of him of his who's a rapper by the name

2215
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 3: of Mike Studd. So it's Rogers. It's Mike Studd. The

2216
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 3: people in the crowd are asking questions in Austin, Texas,

2217
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, Rogers drops a hint which

2218
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 3: is cringe worthy. Here check this out.

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01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 5: Will Aaron Rodgers ever go to the Bears?

2220
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 9: Oh?

2221
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 4: Boy, and security get her on here.

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01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: He's a security.

2223
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 2: He's take it easy on her.

2224
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:00,640
Speaker 4: No, but I believe there is a team that might

2225
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 4: play in Chicago this year my road trip.

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01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 2: I don't know. We sure got to check it out.

2227
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 2: Are you speaking in code?

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01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 4: I love Chicago though, way more than they love me.

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01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 2: It's been a great relationship all one way.

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01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:20,839
Speaker 3: Okay, So it was fast in there. But he mentions,

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01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 3: I believe there's a team that might play in Chicago

2232
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 3: this year on a road trip.

2233
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 4: So think of this.

2234
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:30,799
Speaker 3: He's dropping a clue to the good people in Austin,

2235
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 3: Texas who might not have the Bears home schedule memorized.

2236
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,479
Speaker 3: And so it's just like right over the head, It's like, oh, okay,

2237
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 3: what was he referring to over here? It's the Steelers.

2238
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 3: So here's the Bear's home schedule, and you tell me

2239
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 3: if these teams are in the market.

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Speaker 2: For Rogers.

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01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 3: There's the Vikings are on the Bears home schedule, right,

2242
01:53:52,400 --> 01:54:00,879
Speaker 3: Cowboys Saints. Richie had Aye had a thought on that, right, Giants, Steelers, Browns.

2243
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 3: The Browns need another quarterback, right. The Packers and the line,

2244
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, can you imagine the Packers are kicking

2245
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 3: Jordan Love to the curb. They're bringing back Rogers.

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01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:17,919
Speaker 2: What is he on the Packers?

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01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 3: No, no, it's the Steelers.

2249
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 1: But what.

2250
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 3: Is this is just so tiring here He's dropping hints

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01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:31,759
Speaker 3: in a q and a stage appearance in Austin, Texas.

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01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 6: What does he do with I listen to that full

2253
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 6: three hour podcast with Rogan. By the way, it was

2254
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 6: not one ounce of football was mentioned. I was hoping

2255
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 6: something was gonna get mentioned.

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01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 2: Not one thing mentioned.

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01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 3: Nothing.

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01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 4: I think that I'll be quick here. I think that

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01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 4: I think that he likes to stay relevant.

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01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 5: He obviously likes to keep his star shining, and he'll

2261
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 5: polish it even if he's outside of the football season,

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01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,839
Speaker 5: like we've seen him doing for the past half decade

2263
01:54:56,920 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 5: or longer. I I also think that he is gonna

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01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 5: sign until he sufficiently threw his offseason regime of ayahuasca

2265
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 5: trips or whatever else, so that there's no hubbub or

2266
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 5: kerfuffle over him taking time off from mandatory OTAs this

2267
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 5: time around, and so once he's won hundred percent ready

2268
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 5: to fully commit himself to the football team he signs with,

2269
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna stay away from football, and I

2270
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 5: think there's gonna be a team, whether it's the Saints

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01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 5: or the Steelers, who is game to wait for Aaron

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01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:29,280
Speaker 5: Rodgers to be ready.

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01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 2: I said it a month ago he was going to

2274
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 2: the Steelers. I still feel that way now. Nothing's changed.

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01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 2: I called it the day before the draft or the

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01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 2: week of the draft.

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers is going to be a fantastic content creator

2278
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 6: one day, professional like full time. He still is straddling

2279
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 6: the line between professional content creator and professional football players.

2280
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 6: Really hard line to straddle, and it's frankly, there's not

2281
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 6: enough time in the.

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01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 2: Day to do both jobs. He's going to be a

2283
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 2: great podcast host one day.

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01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 6: I just don't think he cares as much about being

2285
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 6: a quarterback anymore as he does about his voice and

2286
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 6: his brand and his platform. That's I think whichever team

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01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 6: he signs with is gonna feel the front.

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01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 3: Of that he is dating football and he is married

2289
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 3: to himself. Like, that's where we're at with Aaron Rodgers Man.

2290
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 3: That's if you cut to the chase, that is it.

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Speaker 4: Rapid fire.

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01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 3: All right, Jared, we start with you.

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01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 4: What do you like.

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Speaker 6: I'll be brief. Baseball is top of mind today. It's

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01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 6: going to be the vibe for the rest of the

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01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 6: summer for the most part. With these rapid fire plays.

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01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 6: I'll go Pirates on the first five money line, laying

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01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 6: about thirty five cents. Here, you're facing Quinn Priester today

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01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 6: for the Brewers, and you get Mitch Keller on the mound.

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01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 2: So I like that matchup.

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01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 6: In the first five for Pittsburgh, We'll go Jack Lighter

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01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 6: over fifteen and a half outs. He gets to face

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01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:18,400
Speaker 6: the White Sox today, which is essentially facing a triple

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01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 6: A lineup lighters. Pitched into the sixth inning in three

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01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 6: straight starts, we only need one out in the six.

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01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,040
Speaker 6: Speaking of one out in the six, Michael King from

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01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 6: Rich's Heavenly fathers.

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01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 2: Over fifteen and a half outs.

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01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 6: Not over this in seven of eight games, and has

2336
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 6: thrown at least ninety pitches in all eight of his

2337
01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 6: last eight starts. Padgers boll play a little gas coming

2338
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 6: off that Toronto series too, so Michael King goes deep

2339
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 6: into again.

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01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 4: All right, I got three NBA props ahead of Game three.

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01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 5: SGA Shay Gilgess, Alexander lives at the foul line, will

2342
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 5: continue to I'm taking over ten free throw attempts. He's

2343
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 5: average fourteen. I believe in the first two games, nas

2344
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 5: Reed under twenty points rebounds. This when can Gobar avoid

2345
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 5: foul trouble? That's less opportunities and also the perimeter defense

2346
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 5: has limited three point looks. Give me Nazried under the

2347
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 5: twenty points rebounds assist and then Jellen McDaniels over six rebounds.

2348
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 5: Throughout the postseason. So far, he's been a rebounding machine.

2349
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 5: I think the line's low, so give me the over

2350
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 5: six rebounds.

2351
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going props NBA, and then a little puck love.

2352
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 3: Give me Anthony Edwards over three and a half threes

2353
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 3: at plus money. It's plus one twenty not bad. So

2354
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 3: he had eight three point attempts in Game one, he

2355
01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 3: made three of them, not bad. Had nine three point

2356
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 3: attempts last game. So he's getting the attempts. And in

2357
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 3: these playoffs he's hit at least four to three pointers

2358
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 3: in six playoff games. So that's six of the twelve

2359
01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:50,560
Speaker 3: that he's played. I like his chances of getting the

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01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 3: threes up, and I think they're gonna fall at home.

2361
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 3: Give me over three and a half threes. I'll take

2362
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 3: Julius Randall to come back to his scoring ways over

2363
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 3: eighteen and a half points. Great zig zag spot terrible

2364
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 3: in game two. He's reached twenty points in nine of

2365
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 3: twelve playoff games this postseason. And hey, in hockey, you

2366
02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 3: take the losing team to score first, except when it's

2367
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 3: the Carolina Hurricanes. Give me Bob, give me the Panthers.

2368
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,680
Speaker 3: They score first. That's minus a dollar thirty five. Enjoy

2369
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 3: the day