Speaker 1: It is Monday. This is Jet Laws Happy Hour. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: We've got a busy program today. Glad you're along with
Speaker 1: us on this Monday, after week twelve. This was coming
Speaker 1: up on the show today. Pete Briscoe and Tony Busselly
Speaker 1: are standing by to get into the aftermath of the
Speaker 1: Browns Jaguars game. Yes, we will touch on the game
Speaker 1: a little later in the show. The biggest news though,
Speaker 1: of course, Dave Calledwell fired as the general manager after
Speaker 1: yesterday's game. Jaguars owner Shot con said that Doug Marona
Speaker 1: and the staff are safe through the twenty twenty season.
Speaker 1: So what's next. We'll get into all that. We'll go
Speaker 1: around the a f C South, because we must, they're
Speaker 1: not so powerful. Draft order is coming up, and the
Speaker 1: Jags are pretty high up, of course, and we'll go
Speaker 1: around the National Football League. Jaguars to the Browns the
Speaker 1: tenth consecutive loss. But in the aftermath, shotgun fired, Dave
Speaker 1: called Well releasing a statement about five thirty saying that
Speaker 1: he had met with called Well to express his appreciation
Speaker 1: for his service to the Jaguars. He was committed and
Speaker 1: determined to bringing a winner to Jacksonville, but the efforts
Speaker 1: were not rewarded with results, and the football operation needs
Speaker 1: new leadership, and we'll have it with a new general
Speaker 1: manager in one. It ends a run for Caldwell that
Speaker 1: started in under his leadership as the GM. The Jaguars
Speaker 1: had a thirty seven and eighty six record overall in
Speaker 1: the regular season. At least, they had one playoff runt,
Speaker 1: of course, in nine first round draft picks, but four
Speaker 1: are currently with the team. Davin Brian, Josh Allen, C. J.
Speaker 1: Henderson and calebon Chason are the ones left over the
Speaker 1: last three drafts. He had some hits in deeper parts
Speaker 1: of the draft, but not enough hits at the very
Speaker 1: top of the draft, and certainly the results on the
Speaker 1: field speak for themselves. Pete Frisco, Tony Basselli joining us now.
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, gentlemen. First off, Pete, what do you think
Speaker 1: about the move? After the game yesterday? Shaw didn't fire Belly.
Speaker 1: What did you say I said Shaw didn't fire Baselly. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean if he said fire me, he's firing you too.
Speaker 1: Are we a package deal? I will think so, Tony.
Speaker 1: Before we get into all this about the firing and everything,
Speaker 1: I want to say. JP is sending out tweets the
Speaker 1: other day about I guess we were nominated that Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour was nominated one the best radio shows in town.
Speaker 1: But what folio is weekly best of Jack's cot Okay,
Speaker 1: and then it says best radio host nomination. You know who?
Speaker 1: You know who's nominated? Tony J. P. Shadrick. I think
Speaker 1: he and his family stuffed the ballot box these elections. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that this is the
Speaker 1: best show because you and I are, so let's be
Speaker 1: clear about that. I will say I think the shows
Speaker 1: might be an anchor. The show was nominated because of
Speaker 1: the segment that Tony missed the last week when we
Speaker 1: talked about James Robinson, Pete and I. That fifteen minute
Speaker 1: window I think got us the domination. No, JP, you're
Speaker 1: glossing over everything. It didn't say Tony was nominated. Didn't
Speaker 1: say me, It said you in an individual part of
Speaker 1: the nomination. You I think you got the family and
Speaker 1: your friends the stuff the ballot box. I don't have
Speaker 1: that many friends, first of all, and second my family's
Speaker 1: tiny would not work. So no, but Jaguar is happy.
Speaker 1: Elections thumbs up. We need to recount the vote early
Speaker 1: and vote vote early in Austin early, and Austen vote
Speaker 1: on at folio weekly. So let's get into it. Dave called,
Speaker 1: well gone after the game, guys, And how about the
Speaker 1: timing of this pete? Is it too late? Is it
Speaker 1: too early? Is it on time? Is there ever a
Speaker 1: right time? Well, you can understand why they did it.
Speaker 1: Now you look around the league. The Lions just did it,
Speaker 1: blew out the GM and coach. The Texans have already
Speaker 1: done it. They're looking for a general manager UM and
Speaker 1: a coach and the Falcon Falcons right, So now you're
Speaker 1: you're in a race that's trying to identify the best
Speaker 1: guy to fill that position who will then hire his coach.
Speaker 1: And Doug Morone is staying. And I think in my
Speaker 1: mind part of the reason he's staying is when they
Speaker 1: fired Gus Bradley, Doug Morone came onto the interim coach
Speaker 1: and he beat the Titans, I think, and played close
Speaker 1: against the Colts and they had some life and then
Speaker 1: they decided to keep them. Well, this gives them no
Speaker 1: option to keeping anybody. You can't make Jay Gruden or
Speaker 1: somebody the interim coach and he can win a couple
Speaker 1: of games, a ruined the draft pick and give himself
Speaker 1: some credibility. Now you're just gonna start from scratt Now,
Speaker 1: I think you go and everybody goes after the season.
Speaker 1: You start from the bottom and retool the whole thing. Well,
Speaker 1: I think what Pete is the first part is dead
Speaker 1: on because you have I mean, you have four open things.
Speaker 1: Forget about the coach for a second. I think we
Speaker 1: can get in this later. I think you're gonna have
Speaker 1: as many as eight openings for head coaches this year.
Speaker 1: I think there's a bunch of them coming um and
Speaker 1: so it's a race to get there. But before you
Speaker 1: can even enter that race, you have de stability at
Speaker 1: the top of the house on the football side, who
Speaker 1: your GM is and who's gonna be running and leading
Speaker 1: the football side of the business. And I think the
Speaker 1: Lions doing that and even put more urgency because now
Speaker 1: you have four open the GM spots that you're gonna
Speaker 1: competing for. And I think in a perfect world you'd
Speaker 1: like that GM in place right after the season is
Speaker 1: over so you can enter into the uh the coaching
Speaker 1: carousel or the coaching race to get your next guy.
Speaker 1: So I thought the timing was right. You never like it.
Speaker 1: We're talking about people's livelihoods. Dave Coldwell has been around
Speaker 1: this organization. We all know him, we have relationships with them,
Speaker 1: and so you never like it. But Dave knows. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a very I mean, analytics have taken over
Speaker 1: this all sports, and and some people like it, some
Speaker 1: people don't. But you know what, you know what the
Speaker 1: most most analytical thing you can measure is wins and
Speaker 1: losses and that's the only metric at the end of
Speaker 1: the day that matters UM and so UH and when
Speaker 1: you're on the wrong side of the ledger and that
Speaker 1: UH in that UH, when you to measure that or
Speaker 1: that metric, you're gonna end up getting fired. And that
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So I think timing wise, I understand it.
Speaker 1: You're now in for the race to fill that void
Speaker 1: and finding the right guy to lead the football side
Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguar. I think the hundred losses and
Speaker 1: how that became an issue last week kind of spurred
Speaker 1: on the con family to do something. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: smart to do it, but I think that was kind
Speaker 1: of the impetus to get it going. Tony, I really do.
Speaker 1: I think from a PR standpoint, that's a terrible Look.
Speaker 1: What are they that? What was it? JP second quickest
Speaker 1: the hundred losses and any owner in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I think he's the first one who didn't take over
Speaker 1: an expansion team to get that fat. It wasn't the last.
Speaker 1: The one who has the quickest was Culver house House
Speaker 1: from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, right, So when you look
Speaker 1: at that from that standpoint, it's it really was one
Speaker 1: of those situations where I think they reevaluated and said, look,
Speaker 1: we gotta start doing something to turn the PR around.
Speaker 1: And and nobody plays PR campaigns, but when you're the
Speaker 1: owner of the team and you're that guy, you're gonna
Speaker 1: start doing something. So it was the right look, it
Speaker 1: was the right thing to do in terms of the timing.
Speaker 1: Why wait until the end of the year, because you
Speaker 1: knew they were going to do it at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. So do you have it? Dave Caldwell out,
Speaker 1: that means Director of Player Personnel Trent and Balky is
Speaker 1: the interim GM. He's got to get him through the
Speaker 1: season with transactions and everything going on. And he was
Speaker 1: the former forty Niners general manager from eleven through sixteen.
Speaker 1: He hired Jim Harbaugh out there, got him away from
Speaker 1: Stanford and then the changes there. It got to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, of course, and then things changed. Tom Slow
Speaker 1: was there and then all of a sudden, Chip Kelly
Speaker 1: was there, and then everybody was gone after the Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly run in San Francisco. He started his career as
Speaker 1: a scout. He's been here since January as the player
Speaker 1: personnel director for the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's what's going to
Speaker 1: happen for the next month, at least in the interim
Speaker 1: role as general manager. Now, what about the coaching staff?
Speaker 1: You ask head coach Doug Marone, and the staff are
Speaker 1: safe through the season, according to shot Con and Doug Barrone.
Speaker 1: Today discussed everything that's happened since last night. You know,
Speaker 1: Dave and I had a good relationship, you know, I
Speaker 1: I you know, it's not like you know, we haven't
Speaker 1: been through this before meeting. You know, people that have
Speaker 1: been in the league, you know, Um, you know, it's
Speaker 1: obviously unfortunate, but um, you know, it is part of
Speaker 1: the profession and we wish you know you Like I said,
Speaker 1: I spoke to Dave and you know, I wish him
Speaker 1: and his family the best of luck. We had a
Speaker 1: good relationship. Um, you know, it's it's very difficult, and
Speaker 1: you know, my focus right now is not on all
Speaker 1: the things that may be going on on the outside,
Speaker 1: but you know, trying to get the team to win
Speaker 1: football games and m be there for the coaches and
Speaker 1: the players. Doug Barron added today, guys that obviously, as
Speaker 1: he just mentioned at the end, there, they're gonna go
Speaker 1: out and try to win games. Still, that's what he
Speaker 1: can do. What are the chances that he survives, is
Speaker 1: he Oh yeah, I don't, I mean zero, I'd be shocked.
Speaker 1: I mean JP, it's time to just start a new
Speaker 1: and whether you want to blame Dave or Doug or whatever,
Speaker 1: the proof is in the pudding. It's time to start over.
Speaker 1: It's time to rebuild the thing. It's time to bring
Speaker 1: somebody in who brings their own coach in. Look, you
Speaker 1: can pretty much guess that guys are jockeying already. I
Speaker 1: imagine Trent Balkis making a predicted you know, he's making
Speaker 1: a pitch to be the new GM. And then in
Speaker 1: that case, oh well, you know I'd go out and
Speaker 1: get this guy, or I'm gonna keep Doug. But I
Speaker 1: think they all have to go, all of them, just
Speaker 1: bringing new guys, bringing some new blood, change the culture,
Speaker 1: turn it over. And you know, here's one higher, Tony
Speaker 1: BASSELLI to be your general manager? Would you take a job?
Speaker 1: You're the best? Um, I agree with you. I agree
Speaker 1: hundred percent with what you're saying is a whole new
Speaker 1: culture because if you look at it, and you said
Speaker 1: something earlier about Shod having a hundred now a hundred
Speaker 1: one losses since he's become an owner, and really nothing
Speaker 1: has changed if you look at it since the day
Speaker 1: he hired it and he brought in Dave Coldwell and
Speaker 1: that whole crew. Outside of we changed that coaches once
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin showed up and got fired. Um, outside of that,
Speaker 1: it's been the same scouts, the same people, the same GM.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really been um very few changes, and
Speaker 1: I think it's time to your point, and it's not
Speaker 1: my job to fire uh, Doug Moro own have called, well,
Speaker 1: it's not your job either, Pete. But if you look
Speaker 1: at it, at some point you have to say, we
Speaker 1: need to change the culture, we need to change the attitude,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And sometimes it's not fair and sometimes
Speaker 1: you just have to clean this late and start fresh
Speaker 1: and so that there's a single um, you know, north Star,
Speaker 1: if this is where we're going, this is who we are. UM.
Speaker 1: I don't care how you've done in the past or
Speaker 1: what has the you know, good, bad or different. This
Speaker 1: is how this is the new protocols, and this is
Speaker 1: who we are as an organization, and this is how
Speaker 1: things are gonna be done on the football side of
Speaker 1: the team. And you need new leadership, uh, new voice
Speaker 1: on that side of the building. I think is critical.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that because I think Doug's a
Speaker 1: bad coach by any means. I've said all year. I
Speaker 1: think he's done an outstanding job with this young team.
Speaker 1: And one of the things and that people listening here like,
Speaker 1: are you an idiot? What do you mean is an
Speaker 1: outstanding job? They have ten losses in a row. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a talented team. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a talented roster. I think it's a young roster that
Speaker 1: has the potential talent on it. Um. But the way,
Speaker 1: one of the reasons the way you measure a coach
Speaker 1: is obviously ultimately wins and losses. But when you are
Speaker 1: that young and that inexperience and that many gaps, you
Speaker 1: have to watch how this team plays and how they
Speaker 1: compete and how they fight. I mean, you're looking at
Speaker 1: the team yesterday that is decimated by injuries on an
Speaker 1: already super young roster that had some gaps talent wise,
Speaker 1: and you're rolling out there with Luke marco Is a
Speaker 1: corner and Josiah Scott, and you know a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys on the front that are either undrafted rookie free
Speaker 1: agents or guys you just picked up and they're fighting
Speaker 1: their tails off and you look at you know, you're
Speaker 1: on your third quarterback of the year. Um. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have a undrafted rookie free agent playing running back, by
Speaker 1: the way, a very good player. Um. And so you
Speaker 1: put all those things together, Pete, you've seen it as
Speaker 1: much as I have. In this league. You see teams
Speaker 1: quit and you see guys to be selfish and play
Speaker 1: for themselves, and you know, take opportunities. If the slidest oper,
Speaker 1: you know, to find a way out of the game,
Speaker 1: they take it. I have not seen that on this
Speaker 1: team at all, and under some really tough circumstances and
Speaker 1: tough situations. And I get Doug in this staff a
Speaker 1: ton of credit because that is one of the hardest
Speaker 1: things to do when everything's going against you and you're
Speaker 1: losing and you're not as talented as the people you're playing,
Speaker 1: to get guys to play hard every week. And he
Speaker 1: has done that. And so however, I still think you
Speaker 1: need a start, you need culture, a new voice, and
Speaker 1: everything else. Here's the ticket, the celliest general manager, and
Speaker 1: the only reason he gets the general manager title is
Speaker 1: because he's up in the ring of honor. I'll be
Speaker 1: as assistant general manager. We'll keep Tim Walsh because Tim
Speaker 1: Walsh can do every contract known to man and knows
Speaker 1: the cap like none other. So we'll keep Tim Walsh.
Speaker 1: Now we're redoing the whole organization right now. So well, yeah,
Speaker 1: well me and you are starting. You're you're at the top.
Speaker 1: You'll be the general manager with the title. I'll be
Speaker 1: your assistant general Manager Tim Walsh will stay on to
Speaker 1: do cap. Then we just got to find a coach
Speaker 1: Tony and there are a lot of candidates out there.
Speaker 1: I really like we got yeah, and we can go
Speaker 1: through the coaches. But in like all like and we
Speaker 1: should listen, let's talk about this shape. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what the rundown, but I do think of like
Speaker 1: who the next guy is, and whether you're joking or not,
Speaker 1: I'm flattered that you think I'd be a good gm
Speaker 1: um and so I'll just I'll take you at your
Speaker 1: ord is you're not joking, but I do think we
Speaker 1: we should do that. That's my point. This is about
Speaker 1: you need to get somebody who's a leader who knows
Speaker 1: football and makes it all about football in the sense
Speaker 1: of there is there's a bunch of things that the
Speaker 1: process is important, how you do things are important, analytics
Speaker 1: are important, how you measure things, and everything else. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, every decision in this
Speaker 1: organization needs to be made based on one thing and
Speaker 1: one thing only, and that is at some point in
Speaker 1: the near future, shot Con is sitting on a platform
Speaker 1: getting the Lombardi Trophy from the Commissioner of the NFL,
Speaker 1: because that's why you play, that's why you exist as
Speaker 1: an organization, is to strive to win a championship. And
Speaker 1: the only way you do that, Pete, you have to
Speaker 1: give yourself as many cracks as it is possible, meaning
Speaker 1: you have to win your division and get into the
Speaker 1: tournament year after year after year to have that opportunity,
Speaker 1: and to do that, you better find a franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: and you better you better have some big guys who
Speaker 1: can play football. That's how this game one. That was
Speaker 1: a great campaign speech. By the way, I really like that. No,
Speaker 1: no I, Tony. You can talk all about analytics, um,
Speaker 1: the salary cap fitting guys in the whole deal. What
Speaker 1: it boils down to is really three things. Three things.
Speaker 1: Can your quarterback win games with his right arm? Do
Speaker 1: you block? And do you tackle? That's when you really
Speaker 1: bring it down to the simplest form of what everything
Speaker 1: they do that matters gets into three things. Can your
Speaker 1: quarterback win games with his right arm? Can your offensive
Speaker 1: line block? And can you tackle? Period? All right, let's
Speaker 1: take your time out here, guys. We've got plenty ahead
Speaker 1: on this. Obviously, it's the major news story of the day.
Speaker 1: We'll touch on the game from yesterday. Not for long.
Speaker 1: We'll touch on it. It it happened. It's ten consecutive
Speaker 1: losses for the Jaguars. Second hour a little later, we'll
Speaker 1: have your social questions. The mailboxes full today, as you
Speaker 1: would imagine, we'll get to those who go around the
Speaker 1: league the not so powerful draft order. And since the
Speaker 1: Jags are officially eliminated, I think, Pete, we can officially
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Speaker 1: overall I felt good. Um. I didn't feel rusty um
Speaker 1: like I said, I felt like I've just seening it well, um,
Speaker 1: drowning it well, getting the ball out on time, felting
Speaker 1: control and command. I'm sure I'll watched the tape and
Speaker 1: there'll be some balls I wish I had back. But uh, yeah, overall,
Speaker 1: I felt good. Mike glennon starting quarterback yesterday for the
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Speaker 1: Shadrick Pete, Frisco Tony Wasselley more on the aftermath of
Speaker 1: the firing of Dave Caldwell a little bit later in
Speaker 1: the program that coach Doug more On the staff are safe.
Speaker 1: Through Mike Glennon. Yesterday, guys, it was twenty of thirty
Speaker 1: five passing two d thirty five yards, a couple of touchdowns,
Speaker 1: a rating of nineties six point seven. Would you make
Speaker 1: of the performance yesterday, Pete? It was okay. It wasn't awful.
Speaker 1: It was a little in fact that I'd be honest,
Speaker 1: It was a little bit better than I thought it
Speaker 1: would be. Um. He actually made a couple of big
Speaker 1: time throws and looked like an NFL quarterback for a time.
Speaker 1: There were times when it, you know, it waned a
Speaker 1: little bit, but at all it was better. Uh, it
Speaker 1: was better than I expected, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: It wasn't great, but better than I expected. Did they
Speaker 1: make an announcement today on a quarterback? No, they did not.
Speaker 1: Doug Maron said today that he has not had a
Speaker 1: chance to talk to the team yet, so he's gonna
Speaker 1: wait to do that before he announces what's what's going
Speaker 1: to happen moving forward. But Pete did anticipate that Glennon
Speaker 1: would be the quarterback again, Tony, I mean he does.
Speaker 1: If you're Doug Marrone, you got five games. Other than that,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. So why not go with the guy
Speaker 1: maybe gives the best chance to win? And that looks
Speaker 1: to be Mike Lennon. So wouldn't you play him again? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Based on what I've seen the three guys, it looks
Speaker 1: like he gives you the best chance. And and if
Speaker 1: you're Doug, you're right you you decide to go with
Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to win football games. You don't
Speaker 1: care about the draft or draft position. What does it
Speaker 1: matter for you? Um? And he's thinking about his players
Speaker 1: and the guys and I locker room, because they want
Speaker 1: to win football games at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: And so give give everyone, give the you know, put
Speaker 1: the guy there, whoever it is. Um. But he didn't.
Speaker 1: We kind of And I agree with you. I thought
Speaker 1: it was good. I thought he was fine because I've
Speaker 1: told people are like, he looks really good. I go, okay, great,
Speaker 1: but it's he's still like, he's not gonna be good
Speaker 1: enough to make a decision to pass on the quarterback
Speaker 1: in the future. You're trying to figure out who your
Speaker 1: backup is at this point. And didn't we know that
Speaker 1: Mike Lennon had games like this in him because early
Speaker 1: in his career I think it was a Tampa he
Speaker 1: showed some spurts were like, hey enough where the Bears
Speaker 1: paid him like twenty million bucks to come in to
Speaker 1: try to be the guy and and we and we
Speaker 1: all know how that works out. Um, yeah, it was fine.
Speaker 1: He's got a big arm because he looked accurate at
Speaker 1: times in the pocket. You know, he's not overly athletic,
Speaker 1: and that was you know, you could see that I
Speaker 1: thought he could you know, a guy with an athletic
Speaker 1: quarterback pipe runs the ball in on that two point
Speaker 1: conversion because there was no one there. Um, but that's okay,
Speaker 1: that's not who he is, So yeah, um, play him whatever.
Speaker 1: But doesn't that say speak volumes about the state of
Speaker 1: the quarterback position on that team. If Mike Glennan gives
Speaker 1: you the best option, I mean, that's all right there.
Speaker 1: That's why number two overall draft pick is so important
Speaker 1: to that franchise going forward, no matter who runs it,
Speaker 1: because if you get the right quarterback, you're a football genius.
Speaker 1: I mean you look, Brett Beach has done a really
Speaker 1: good job in Kansas City, but if he doesn't have
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, and give him credit, he identified him r
Speaker 1: made sure that they went and got him. Is he
Speaker 1: a good general manager? Hard to say, You don't know.
Speaker 1: Probably not. If you solve the quarterback position, it solves
Speaker 1: almost everything else. So that's why number two overall is
Speaker 1: enormous for whoever does take that job. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't think Pete's fair to say he's not a good GM.
Speaker 1: I think your I didn't say that, So I said,
Speaker 1: do we know would he be getting all the accolades
Speaker 1: that he's getting if he didn't say he got Mitch
Speaker 1: Robinsky and not Patrick Mahomes. Would they be talking about
Speaker 1: what a great GM he is? No, Okay, I agree
Speaker 1: with that, but that's my point. So he's done his job.
Speaker 1: So much of this speed is picking the right guy,
Speaker 1: but also then building around that guy. Because I'll give
Speaker 1: you an example. Um, look at the Colts when they
Speaker 1: had the first overall pick, anyone could have picked Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck and Ryan Grigson their GM. At first it is like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a good look at him, good GM, Well do
Speaker 1: out he was. He wasn't because he didn't build around
Speaker 1: him properly traded for you know, Alabama running back. But
Speaker 1: first round Trent Richardson was a disaster and everyone who
Speaker 1: watched him knew that was not the right to play
Speaker 1: um And he didn't build He didn't build the line
Speaker 1: around him to protect Andrew Lucky, didn't build the defense
Speaker 1: to keep him on the field. And so while just
Speaker 1: getting the quarterback right doesn't mean you're a great GM,
Speaker 1: but getting that quarterback right is critical to building a team.
Speaker 1: And then you have to look at a guy like
Speaker 1: Grett Fitch. I'm gonna give him credit. At the same time,
Speaker 1: do you a are we fully clear of the roles
Speaker 1: and responsibilities and how much influence Andy um Reid is
Speaker 1: playing in that and how he is driving the organization
Speaker 1: and is he really because beach and God, he's said
Speaker 1: a lot in that building that that was his guy.
Speaker 1: Even Andy Reid said it many times. So that's why
Speaker 1: that's why you have to give him credit. And they've
Speaker 1: built a good team around it. They built to his strength.
Speaker 1: They built a good enough offensive line. Now they're not
Speaker 1: playing as well this year. Mitchell Schwartz isn't playing as
Speaker 1: well the right tackle, but a decent offensive line. They
Speaker 1: have a guy who can affect the quarterback and Chris Jones.
Speaker 1: Um they're not great defensively other than that, but they
Speaker 1: do have that. And they said, you know what, we
Speaker 1: got this great quarterback. We're gonna give a weapon. We
Speaker 1: gotta tied in and we got a bunch of fast
Speaker 1: guys who can run around, and we'll go find a
Speaker 1: running back, you know, second, third, fourth, fifth, whatever. And
Speaker 1: they've run out a bunch of different guys at running
Speaker 1: back in Patrick Mahomes time there. So you have to
Speaker 1: give him credit um as the as the as the
Speaker 1: GM of that organization. At the same time, part of
Speaker 1: that credit is getting the quarterback right. We saw it
Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville, Dave Caldwell at the house on Blake Bortles. Okay,
Speaker 1: everyone misses here was the bigger mistake in my opinion,
Speaker 1: And this is what I think is a quality of
Speaker 1: really good gms and head coaches, by the way, is
Speaker 1: when you omit your your mistakes early you know, in
Speaker 1: business they call it failing fast, like go for it.
Speaker 1: But when you're when you missed a minute, don't double
Speaker 1: down and keep on going down because of pride or
Speaker 1: ego or whatever else. And the biggest issue that happened
Speaker 1: here with Dave called will It was not just missing
Speaker 1: on Blake Portles. He missed Okay, great, But guess what
Speaker 1: if he would have admitted his mistake after year three
Speaker 1: and said, missed it. I'm going to get me another one.
Speaker 1: He had the opportunity to draft draft Patrick Mahomes or
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson that was sitting right there. And guess what
Speaker 1: if you would have admitted his mistake and drafted Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes or DeShawn Watson, he would still probably be the
Speaker 1: GM today because you have the quarterback and you'd be
Speaker 1: a much better team. Well, I'll give you another example, Thomas,
Speaker 1: to meet your off. Drafted Matt Ryan. And when if
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan came to the Falcons, they were dreadful. Remember
Speaker 1: how bad they were, they were awful. Well, he came
Speaker 1: there and then they had success. They built around them
Speaker 1: a little bit. They got you know, they got the weapons,
Speaker 1: and they had within a whisker winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But then it started the fray, and it's fray. They
Speaker 1: couldn't solve the pass rush issue. They tried everything imaginable
Speaker 1: to do that, and they had some injuries, and then
Speaker 1: they had this big cap number and added this big
Speaker 1: cap number and they had something. And then even though
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan still playing at a pretty high level, not
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes level, but pretty high level, they weren't sustainable anymore.
Speaker 1: And that's why you talk about if you have the quarterback,
Speaker 1: get the quarterback, identify the quarterback, then you have success.
Speaker 1: But the good gms will be the ones that will
Speaker 1: be able to continue that when you have to pay
Speaker 1: the quarterback and still supplement around them. Yeah, but I'll
Speaker 1: give you the reason that they fell apart in Atlantaped.
Speaker 1: It was a combination of head coach and GM because
Speaker 1: it was not just building it right and missing on
Speaker 1: some draft picks and not getting it right at certain positions.
Speaker 1: The bigger issue in my was after the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: they let when Kyle Shanahan got the job at the
Speaker 1: four nine, they should have named one of his offensive assistants,
Speaker 1: whether it was Lafour or whoever else, as the court
Speaker 1: and keep the same system in place. Instead, they went
Speaker 1: to Sarkaesian and had start come in and try to
Speaker 1: run a system that was not his, and you missed
Speaker 1: all the nuances of it that made them great. And
Speaker 1: so that's also planning, and it is when you do
Speaker 1: have success, have been developed talent under your coordinator, so
Speaker 1: that when you lose a coordinator, you keep the guy
Speaker 1: underneath him that could run the same system that you're
Speaker 1: having success with. And the same on the defense. They
Speaker 1: never got the defense right, and because he brought in
Speaker 1: other people who were not running his system and trying
Speaker 1: to meld to his system even though they didn't own it.
Speaker 1: And you can make the argument the same mistake that
Speaker 1: maybe Gus Bradley made here. Instead of him being defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and putting his system they believed, and he brought
Speaker 1: Bob Babbagin who was a Tampa to cover to guy
Speaker 1: and tried to have him run the system that Gus
Speaker 1: wanted to put in. And so those are all new
Speaker 1: launces that help you be successful as you go forward.
Speaker 1: So it's getting the player right and the right players
Speaker 1: quarterback first, I'm a believer inside out offensive defensive lines
Speaker 1: after that, but it's also getting the right staff with coordinator,
Speaker 1: head coach coordinators, and then building the system based on
Speaker 1: what they want to be, meaning that if you want
Speaker 1: to be a cover three like Gus Bradley, you better
Speaker 1: get long corners, you can run in a in a
Speaker 1: free state, you can cover a lot of ground in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and a will linebacker that
Speaker 1: can run with the over routes. I mean, there's certain things.
Speaker 1: You better have a pass rusher. If you want to
Speaker 1: be that old Tampa two, you better have a three
Speaker 1: technique that can be disrupted. I mean, there's certain aspects
Speaker 1: of the of the thing that you have to build for.
Speaker 1: It's not just drafting and this is a fantasy football
Speaker 1: We're just going to start picking players. You have to
Speaker 1: build to what your conviction is and you have to
Speaker 1: match up with your head coach. And then the long
Speaker 1: term sustainability is having the quarterback, which we agree upon,
Speaker 1: but also as you have success, to start losing coordinators
Speaker 1: to other head coaches everything else, that you have someone
Speaker 1: to fill them with to keep the system in place.
Speaker 1: You know, Tony, we asked this question yesterday. How many
Speaker 1: franchises right now feel comfortable with their quarterback for the
Speaker 1: next four years? Okay, let's go through the division. UM.
Speaker 1: I would say in the South, you have the Titans
Speaker 1: in the Texans both feel comfortable with UM and the
Speaker 1: let's say the a f C North Pittsburgh's not. Ben's
Speaker 1: not gonna be there for four years. UM, Cincinnati does,
Speaker 1: as long as Borrow goes back from his knee injury. Does.
Speaker 1: UM Cleveland, I don't. I don't think they don't. In
Speaker 1: Baltimore to this year, I'm not gonna say no, but boy,
Speaker 1: he's taking a step backwards. But let's get Baltimore because
Speaker 1: based on their system four UM in the East Buffalo, yes,
Speaker 1: that's five. UM Jets, No, I don't think Miami does.
Speaker 1: They don't know yet, so it's too early. And UM
Speaker 1: New England, who's uh? In New England? No? Why West
Speaker 1: Mahomes yes? Six? Herbert yes seven h Denver doesn't know.
Speaker 1: Denver doesn't know. And what about the Raiders? Is Derek
Speaker 1: Carr the answer for four more years? Well it's a
Speaker 1: it's a question mark. So no, that's the FC in
Speaker 1: the Let's go NFC South New Orleans, No Carolina? No,
Speaker 1: UM Atlanta four years from now? I don't think so. UM?
Speaker 1: And then uh yea Okay, in the way in the West, Yes,
Speaker 1: even though he played terrible. Yes, baby, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: it to him. Kyle Murray, yes, Um, Russells, Russell Wilson, Yes.
Speaker 1: San Francis, Francisco. No, No, that's now we're up to
Speaker 1: what is that? Eleven? Eleven? Okay? The NFC East Um No, no,
Speaker 1: Went No, No, Dallas, yes, Prescott, Prescott. Yes, So that's twelve.
Speaker 1: The NFC North Green Bay, where Roger's been playing in
Speaker 1: four years. I don't think he wants to play that long.
Speaker 1: He told me once he wants to play to his
Speaker 1: forty at least. Okay, no, no, no, no, Um, Chicago twelve,
Speaker 1: and you gave up golf of the entire league with
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks for the next four years. That's right, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's Y's right. Injury could jump in there too. Plenty
Speaker 1: more on that coming up. We'll touch on the defense,
Speaker 1: and plenty more ahead on the firing of Dave Caldwell
Speaker 1: in the aftermath, and how attractive the position is here
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville compared to some others. In the second hour,
Speaker 1: your social questions around the league, all that coming up.
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Speaker 1: very productive player, um, you know, very consistent. Um never
Speaker 1: becomes frustrated and never become i mean just steady. Just
Speaker 1: a steady football player. That's you know, um, you know,
Speaker 1: always gonna you know, get you a positive yards, always
Speaker 1: gonna give you unbelievable effort. I think that's the one
Speaker 1: thing that people I think miss a little bit with him.
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, the effort, and I think he's
Speaker 1: he's showing that, you know, he's a really good football player,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're happy we have him. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think we had about twenty something touches today, uh,
Speaker 1: you know for him. Um so I think you know
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a pretty good load. Twenty two
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jaguars, Happy our j P, Shadrick, Tony Boselli,
Speaker 1: and Pete Brisco The day after the Jaguars lost to
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I know they're one in nine, guys,
Speaker 1: but where would they be without James Robinson Right now?
Speaker 1: One in nine, they're actually one in I don't want
Speaker 1: to excuse me, I've lost. It's amazing to think that
Speaker 1: there were certain people that thought they could actually win
Speaker 1: eleven games. That's right, and one of them is on
Speaker 1: this show. What happened? It happened? Actually have Okay, But
Speaker 1: here's the thing, JP, you've been we've been doing this
Speaker 1: a lot of years now, UM and UM. Usually it
Speaker 1: should have been a warning signed everyone, like the lights
Speaker 1: should have gone, like the red lights, flashing lights, because
Speaker 1: usually what do I have them? Fifteen and one, sixteen
Speaker 1: and oh, fourteen and two. The fact that I only
Speaker 1: have them winning eleven games should have been an alarms
Speaker 1: going off, like, oh, this is trying to you're trying
Speaker 1: to get out from underneath that, right, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to get I'm not trying to get off anything. You
Speaker 1: can't unush that button? Did you lock it? I did not?
Speaker 1: And what did I lock? I locked something last week?
Speaker 1: And I think it went rotten. You didn't lock something?
Speaker 1: What did you lock? I can't remember. I can't remember either,
Speaker 1: you guys remember what I locked it? I think it
Speaker 1: had to be rotten because my picks were terrible. That
Speaker 1: was two weeks ago. I think that they're usually so
Speaker 1: bad the locks on this show that I just I
Speaker 1: quit counting anymore. It was so memorable that we forgot
Speaker 1: about it. Yes, well, we'll never forget about eleven. How
Speaker 1: could you could you? I mean, my gosh, there's not
Speaker 1: one thing that nobody could look at this team and
Speaker 1: think they would. I mean, I feel like an idiot
Speaker 1: thinking they would do in five games. Oh, Pete, you
Speaker 1: locked the Jets? Is what you locked? Is what the
Speaker 1: Jet You're gonna win? That's yeah, that was a bad pick.
Speaker 1: That was a terrible You know, I could the quarterback
Speaker 1: from us see you thrown interceptions. He's not. He hasn't.
Speaker 1: He hasn't improved at all. Yeah, he played it was
Speaker 1: it was ten three, they were the red zone and
Speaker 1: he threw a terrible interception. I mean, it's just terrible.
Speaker 1: Let's touch on defense here for the Jags yesterday, obviously
Speaker 1: walking wounded going into the game, barely walking at all.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys on I are some other players
Speaker 1: out again yesterday and Von Hamilton's went down during the game.
Speaker 1: Dug Maroon said today it's not as bad as they
Speaker 1: thought last night, which is good news. He's still going
Speaker 1: to go on I R. But it's positive and more
Speaker 1: positive than it was yesterday, which is the good sign.
Speaker 1: On defense, close them down for the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: get him ready for next year. You'd be done with him.
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's any chance that he's not all
Speaker 1: the way back, and then how about Josh Allen If
Speaker 1: they're not, if they're not mean like in a normal season,
Speaker 1: when you're pushing for a playoff of guy's percent, he's
Speaker 1: probably gonna try and play. In this scenario, give him,
Speaker 1: give him the out, you know, dude, like they're doing
Speaker 1: in college. I'm done, I'm getting ready for the NFL.
Speaker 1: Get ready for next year. Well, I mean, there's just
Speaker 1: it's risk reward. If a guy is not acent, why
Speaker 1: would you bring them back at this point? Right? But
Speaker 1: don't you don't you agree there are been times, there
Speaker 1: were times in your career when you were you played,
Speaker 1: there were times, yeah, and that's what I mean because
Speaker 1: it was it was it was meaningful. There's nothing meaningful
Speaker 1: about the next five games. So shut them down if
Speaker 1: they're not all the way back, and worry about next year.
Speaker 1: So this is how I would do it. I think
Speaker 1: it's a risk reward thing. I would look at him
Speaker 1: because no one's ever you know that as well as
Speaker 1: I do. I would look at it and say, okay,
Speaker 1: based on his health, Von Hamilton's or Josh Allen's is
Speaker 1: the upside and the only upside is for them to
Speaker 1: get reps and to improve his players. Is the upside
Speaker 1: worth the risk of re injuring whatever injury they have
Speaker 1: that will impact their off season when we're hoping they
Speaker 1: get better because thinking, because what you're trying to do
Speaker 1: at this point with these young eyes is get them
Speaker 1: better for next year, and you have to weigh it.
Speaker 1: Is it better to play them right now and those
Speaker 1: reps are meaningful to get them experience and everything like that,
Speaker 1: or would it be better off making sure they're healthy
Speaker 1: so we get a really good offseason with these young
Speaker 1: players so they're ready for next year. And that's the
Speaker 1: equation you're running, Pete. That's all you're doing, right. I agree,
Speaker 1: But but again, um, the reps might not be as
Speaker 1: important if they're not. No, I agree, Just weigh it
Speaker 1: out though, I mean, yeah, I mean, like I'll give
Speaker 1: it if I don't even know what. Let's say, Devon
Speaker 1: Hamilton's injuries a grade one mc L. Typically if you
Speaker 1: if you're if it's the playoffs, you're taping it up
Speaker 1: and figure out how to get out there. If you
Speaker 1: can do anything, you're gonna play. And but you're saying
Speaker 1: to be healthy, like back, it's a two week injury,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm probably gonna bring him back for the
Speaker 1: last three monks of the game because it's, you know,
Speaker 1: a minor injury. If it's a Grade two and it's
Speaker 1: four to six weeks and I can push them to
Speaker 1: be there for the last week of the season, is
Speaker 1: that really worth it? I don't think so. No, not
Speaker 1: particularly not if they're sitting out four games. He was
Speaker 1: starting to play really well, So I think I think
Speaker 1: he's a fine I think they have a good player there.
Speaker 1: Wn't you agree. I mean, he has a chance to
Speaker 1: be really good in the interior. I think he's a
Speaker 1: starting caliber first and second down one technique, So he's
Speaker 1: a he's a regular personnel one technique that's starting caliber. Yes,
Speaker 1: is he gonna um? Is he a three technique? Or
Speaker 1: I want out there in passing situations that's gonna have
Speaker 1: to pressure the quarterback? Probably not. Can you push the
Speaker 1: pocket at times? Yes, But I mean, but his skill
Speaker 1: set is run defender, and so maybe big big nickel
Speaker 1: personnel when the team wants to run out of that
Speaker 1: that inside outside zone. Maybe he's playing on those downs,
Speaker 1: but that's what his skill set is at this point
Speaker 1: in his career, is not the rest of pastor remind
Speaker 1: you of anybody that you played against in your career
Speaker 1: or playing, or you've seen or watched. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: every one technique that you ever well does he remind
Speaker 1: you of? Like those remember there the Pat Williams. Now,
Speaker 1: he's not that, he's not that big. Those dudes were
Speaker 1: giants into it. And by the way, you remember they
Speaker 1: played a different system. They played the three four notes,
Speaker 1: so they are zero knows, head up a bunch every
Speaker 1: once in a while with tilt on a on a
Speaker 1: on a shade. Pat Winds was a big man. That
Speaker 1: was a big man. Sometimes he was too big. He liked,
Speaker 1: he liked. But yeah, so and it's still early. And
Speaker 1: this is the other thing we have. You have to
Speaker 1: be careful. Don't overvalue your young players like just because
Speaker 1: and this is what happens on bad teams. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: overvalue because you don't have that much talent. So a
Speaker 1: guy that might be just average on other teams looks
Speaker 1: even better and you really got it. So you have
Speaker 1: to you have to look at your talent base, not
Speaker 1: just against the guys you have in your locker room,
Speaker 1: looking across the league measure like I liken that to
Speaker 1: the NBA. You see a guy sitting on the end
Speaker 1: of the bench and he's the twelfth man, and then
Speaker 1: for some reason, because of an injury, he gets thrust
Speaker 1: into the starting lineup and has to play. And he
Speaker 1: goes for twenty two and six assists in five five rebounds,
Speaker 1: and you go, oh, man, you should play more. Why
Speaker 1: doesn't he play well? He had the play. That's not
Speaker 1: what you get at him on a normal basis. He
Speaker 1: had the play, was forced to play. I think you're
Speaker 1: talking about the exact same type of scenario. These guys
Speaker 1: are forced to play tempered a bit because you're comparing
Speaker 1: him to what you have on the field instead of
Speaker 1: what the rest of the league has. Let's h we
Speaker 1: gotta take a time out here real quick. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll finish these thoughts. Tony Boselli Pete Frisco. One final
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Speaker 1: guys will vote, right, Pete, you already you already got
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell. It's amazing, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I mean, for
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Speaker 1: it's good for me, it's good for me. Well, clearly
Speaker 1: he did something like that, So I mean, who you
Speaker 1: should be proud of you. I am proud of him.
Speaker 1: I'm learning from the best, Pete. And then if the
Speaker 1: show wins. I accept this on or on behalf of everybody,
Speaker 1: even though I nominated myself as the solo guy. Whatever, man, whatever,
Speaker 1: it's good like when gets in the Hall, he's gonna
Speaker 1: forget about everyone's right, there's no doubt who people who.
Speaker 1: You know, Mike Fani used to call me Pete price
Speaker 1: Go because I was all about I when Tony gets
Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame. No, he's gonna be but cll I,
Speaker 1: you know that's not true. I know so what But
Speaker 1: it was true that I'm price Goo. Yes, were you admitted? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you admitaged everybody. It's good. You have not rubbed off
Speaker 1: of me that far yet. JP. You got me to
Speaker 1: talk about the draft earlier this year, So that was
Speaker 1: a big staff you you got. You need to admit that.
Speaker 1: You know, at some point, playing for draft position is
Speaker 1: smarter than winning games. So you got me there. I
Speaker 1: got you to admit you're a member of the media. Now,
Speaker 1: well that was last year. Yeah, I brought you down.
Speaker 1: I broke you down. It's a process. It's a process
Speaker 1: I'll never get to if it's good for me. It's
Speaker 1: good for me, though I will never get that far. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that's that's that's a bridge too
Speaker 1: far for me. Let me ask this. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this. If you're waiting at the airport for luggage
Speaker 1: to come out, and you're would you you see somebody
Speaker 1: whose luggage doesn't come out? Aren't you better and happier
Speaker 1: because yours came out rather than theirs instead of you
Speaker 1: being in their positions? What? Yes? Just say yes, Tony? Yes?
Speaker 1: Does that? What does that have to do with anything, Pete?
Speaker 1: Because it's always look you, somebody's misfortune is bad for them,
Speaker 1: but you'd rather be them than you. Okay, when I
Speaker 1: got COVID, I wasn't wishing you were laying in that.
Speaker 1: I see you. It's not me that's got aggressive. Quick
Speaker 1: happened there? Oh my goodness, went there? Evin? When you
Speaker 1: heard I was now because I got it? Are you
Speaker 1: telling me that when I was in the I c
Speaker 1: you having COVID? You're like, yes, not, But why you
Speaker 1: were in that? I see you? You must have wished
Speaker 1: something on me, because I got it. Like a couple
Speaker 1: of months later, you did something. We just escalated quickly
Speaker 1: from luggage to COVID. What in the world happened, Pete? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. I know the whole piece example
Speaker 1: was a dumb one. Is the point I was making
Speaker 1: JP understood it that went right over your head is
Speaker 1: I'd rather not stand there for twenty five minutes waiting
Speaker 1: on my luggage. I'd rather get my luggage first and
Speaker 1: get the hell out of there. And you'd rather be
Speaker 1: somebody else rather than you. If somebody has to wait,
Speaker 1: you'd rather be somebody else than correct, you're not hoping,
Speaker 1: You're not hoping harm on somebody else. That's not what
Speaker 1: I said. That's what I said. Good. He said, it's
Speaker 1: good for me. It's good for me, meaning who cares
Speaker 1: about everyone else? Now? Am I happy my stuff comes
Speaker 1: out at last? I can get the heck out of
Speaker 1: the airport. Yes, but I'm not wishing going stuck out.
Speaker 1: You're not wishing, but you're glad yours came out. That
Speaker 1: it's more important to you for yours to come out
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Speaker 1: true or false. We're happy everyone else's stuck there and
Speaker 1: you're gone. WHOA, I mean, I'd be happy. It's it's
Speaker 1: much better for me if my stuff got camp came
Speaker 1: out and they were stuck rather than if I'm stuck
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Speaker 1: everything I possibly can to make sure that I am
Speaker 1: doing my job at the best of my ability to
Speaker 1: try to win football games. Head coach Doug Maron on
Speaker 1: a conference call today discussing the remainder of the season
Speaker 1: five games to go and welcome into the second hour
Speaker 1: of Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Vaselli.
Speaker 1: The big news of the day the change at general
Speaker 1: manager Dave Caldwell out. About five thirty yesterday, the announcement
Speaker 1: came down from Jaguars owner shot Con that Dave Caldwell
Speaker 1: had been relieved of his duties. They'll get a new
Speaker 1: general manager and twenty twenty one, Trent and Bulky will
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars currently, he was hired here in January. Also,
Speaker 1: shot Kan said that head coach jug Maron and the
Speaker 1: staff are safe through the twenty season. So that answer
Speaker 1: that you just heard from Maron today was about how
Speaker 1: the approach things down the stretch the final five games
Speaker 1: of the season. Of course, yesterday the Jaguars dropped their
Speaker 1: tenth consecutive game, a single season franchise record, twenty five
Speaker 1: as the final score, and the Cleveland Browns got the victory.
Speaker 1: Pete Prescot Tony Boselli back with us now, and you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's what it is, new GM coming head coach
Speaker 1: that has five games to go in this season, and
Speaker 1: then who knows from there. That's a lot of change
Speaker 1: coming up, but the change has begun. Tony. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think we all knew where it was coming. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a tough position for Doug to be in UM
Speaker 1: because you're you know, you're tied in the GM. You're
Speaker 1: trying to build this together. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people were surprised that they got the year after last
Speaker 1: year that they were retained, and they were I think
Speaker 1: they were hoping they could get some things turned around.
Speaker 1: Really tough year to do it. If you look at
Speaker 1: COVID and the guys off the out and everything else,
Speaker 1: UM and and at the end of the day, they
Speaker 1: just didn't get the quarterback right. They thought that mits
Speaker 1: you could be the guy. I think everyone pretty much
Speaker 1: now understands that you need to go make up, go
Speaker 1: find a quarterback to be the franchise guy. So um,
Speaker 1: it's never good. It's never fun. And I think it's
Speaker 1: hard also on Doug of the staff now because you
Speaker 1: don't want to articulate it or say it out loud.
Speaker 1: But I think they know what's coming. I mean Doug,
Speaker 1: I mean he said it as much he goes. I've
Speaker 1: been in this business a long time. It's never fun.
Speaker 1: It's not good. And now you just have to be
Speaker 1: a professional, and I think you will and you have
Speaker 1: to play it out and you gotta get guys to
Speaker 1: play hard and you're always audition for your next job.
Speaker 1: Um and uh, and I think that's how you have
Speaker 1: to approach it, whether you're a coach or a player. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, whatever you do is gonna be on tape
Speaker 1: and it's going to stick with you. And we are
Speaker 1: a part of your story. So I think that's what
Speaker 1: you go out and play with pride and and coach
Speaker 1: with pride and coach hard because that's who they are.
Speaker 1: I think they've shown that this year. And uh. And
Speaker 1: then as far as the GM, now it's time to
Speaker 1: start a search and go find out who who's who's
Speaker 1: gonna lead the organization on the football side for the
Speaker 1: Jackson Jaguars. Yeah. And that's the timing again because of
Speaker 1: all the circumstances around the league. If there had probably
Speaker 1: been no firings and general manners until now, then they
Speaker 1: probably would have waited until after the season. But I
Speaker 1: think that's fed up the time table and and right team.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, this team needs change, it needs overhaul.
Speaker 1: It needs to change from the top all the way down.
Speaker 1: And and I think the coaching staff is going to
Speaker 1: change as well. And and uh, it's the right thing
Speaker 1: to do. It's time, and I think the fans are
Speaker 1: and I'm sure JP when we get to some of
Speaker 1: their comments, they'll agree. By the way, I was trying
Speaker 1: to put together to see if we could get a
Speaker 1: roster full of X Jaguars who were still playing, and
Speaker 1: see if we could fill a full two team and
Speaker 1: see how they would do metched up against this team.
Speaker 1: They and and I'm having a hard time with some
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Maybe you guys can remember somebody. If you did,
Speaker 1: they'd be they'd probably be a four or five point favorite.
Speaker 1: The defensive front Tony Tyson, Campbell and Cockway and and
Speaker 1: Um and Clay and then Fowler. You could play them
Speaker 1: wherever because I didn't have a lot of linebackers, but
Speaker 1: secondary would be boy A Ramsey, Mike Hilton, uh Gibson
Speaker 1: and Ronnie Harrison. Wow, now I can't remember. Now, there
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of linebackers that could play next to Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you have a middle linebacker
Speaker 1: if I can remember, I couldn't remember. I'm just doing
Speaker 1: this off the top of my head. But you'd have
Speaker 1: either Folds probably Folds throwing to Alan Robinson, Alan Lazard
Speaker 1: and Mercedes Lewis would be a tight end, and then
Speaker 1: the offensive line is troubling, you'd have Sam Young remember him,
Speaker 1: he was there for a while. Beat them, beat them,
Speaker 1: and with new Ski. There's three. I couldn't think of
Speaker 1: two other ones, but I'm sure that I was just
Speaker 1: doing this on the fly. Was Austin Pastor right now?
Speaker 1: Is he around Austin Pastor? No? But I'm sure we
Speaker 1: can find two. Honestly. What a lot of the point
Speaker 1: is there's a lot of really good ex Jaguar players
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, who are no longer on the roster.
Speaker 1: And granted I thought the Fowler was a bit of
Speaker 1: a problem when he was there. We know of that. Um,
Speaker 1: he never lived up to the hype when he was
Speaker 1: a Jackuvial, good football player, not a great pass rushure.
Speaker 1: It was never worked. You know, he got hurt. Remember
Speaker 1: he first training camp, he got her first practice, he
Speaker 1: got hurt, right, and remember he had some all field
Speaker 1: stuff here as well, correct, uh, Jalen Ramsey, that was
Speaker 1: a deal they made. Should they have made it? Would
Speaker 1: you have made it? Do you still look back on
Speaker 1: it and say it was a good deal? Calais Campbell
Speaker 1: because of money, Well, this team had money and they
Speaker 1: didn't want to spend money on an older guy. I
Speaker 1: get it, and cock Way they didn't want to pay
Speaker 1: him the money. But again it goes back to what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There are players, good football players out there
Speaker 1: that would have could have been on this team, and
Speaker 1: they chose to go in a different direction. And now
Speaker 1: this is why it's happening. And there are reasons why, Tony.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there aren't reasons and warn't warranted reasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's easy to go after the fact and say,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know this person could have been
Speaker 1: or not or should have been, or you know, wrong
Speaker 1: direction was taken with that individual. But I think each
Speaker 1: of them has their own story too that you could
Speaker 1: go and dissect. And probably some are probably clear that
Speaker 1: maybe the move shouldn't have been, but some I think
Speaker 1: we'd still end up saying, um to let them go
Speaker 1: in And you know a lot of them are right
Speaker 1: moves when they made the move. If you're giving me
Speaker 1: two ones and something, an extra pit another pick for
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, I'm trading him to do it because he
Speaker 1: was not It wasn't this, he wasn't playing like a
Speaker 1: number one and number one corner when he was there
Speaker 1: at the end, he just wasn't good player. But did he,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, did you ever think he
Speaker 1: was playing up to what he should have been for
Speaker 1: that team? Ever? Ever? For the end in the last
Speaker 1: couple I mean, well, it's uh nineteen, you mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: but even nineteen. I mean, look at the game he
Speaker 1: had where the outburst, where the outburst happened against the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. He had a great game, was playing against Theodore,
Speaker 1: but he always messed up well against Hopkins. That was
Speaker 1: one where he always played. I mean, he's by the way.
Speaker 1: The problem with that situation, Pete, wasn't just that moment.
Speaker 1: There was obviously a lot of build up to get
Speaker 1: to that moment. And what you have to do is
Speaker 1: go back and analyze it. Could the organization done anything
Speaker 1: better to make sure the best player you had drafted
Speaker 1: in umpteen years was happy and wanted to be a
Speaker 1: part of your organization. And so at the end, yes,
Speaker 1: I would have traded and for the two twos. My question,
Speaker 1: and as close as we are the organization, I'm not
Speaker 1: pretty to everything. My question would be, did you die
Speaker 1: st I think this is a critical it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's when changes happened, or you go through a process,
Speaker 1: or you go after a project, or you go do something.
Speaker 1: I think it's self evaluation and kind of doing a retrospect.
Speaker 1: It was important what happened that got you to that
Speaker 1: point where your best player doesn't want to be around you.
Speaker 1: By the way, we could coax puzz loves Me out
Speaker 1: of retirement and make him the line there that we're
Speaker 1: missing that outside of doing the silly exercise, because it's
Speaker 1: not a silly exercise. He just goes to show you
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talent still playing in the league
Speaker 1: that's not there now, and it's been and it's been
Speaker 1: here and it's left for different reasons. Yes, Okay, starters
Speaker 1: starters on other teams that would be starting here too, well,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe yeah, maybe. I mean they traded Ronnie Harrison, okay,
Speaker 1: which one of the guys that I just training Ronnie Harrison,
Speaker 1: because he wasn't playing at the starting caliber football. Correct,
Speaker 1: that's why he played one staff yesterday, by the way, Okay,
Speaker 1: aside from Harrison, which one of these guys wouldn't be
Speaker 1: starting in Jacksonville right now, and go way, Llo starting
Speaker 1: Jackson BLeague Jackson. Now he's starting for the Eagles, or
Speaker 1: at least he's in the road. Uh. Dante Fowler starting,
Speaker 1: Uh boy a, he didn't play great at the end.
Speaker 1: Start right now this team right now? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: pay him that much money? So that's why let's stop, actually,
Speaker 1: cause I think it's a silly exercise because some of
Speaker 1: the reasons you're talking about, we're taking away the money
Speaker 1: out of the equation. Ramsey, you can't do that like Hilton, yes,
Speaker 1: uh and Gibson and Harrison. Look, I know I'm not
Speaker 1: enamor with either one of those two back there. But
Speaker 1: so before we go to break and do the social calls,
Speaker 1: let's real quick we have like I think, three mena shape,
Speaker 1: how many jobs are gonna be open? And let's go
Speaker 1: to it really quick, because now, well, general managers, there's
Speaker 1: four right now, right, there's four open. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: head coaches. They're open. There are there have been three
Speaker 1: guys fired so far this year. Right, assuming that those
Speaker 1: three spots are either gonna be filled by the guys
Speaker 1: that are in them or they're gonna be which I
Speaker 1: don't think is the case, there's gonna be new blood
Speaker 1: in those three job, how many other jobs that Jack's
Speaker 1: will assigne for right now are gonna be open because
Speaker 1: that's what you're competing for, And in my opinion, there's
Speaker 1: a finite of people who you really want to go
Speaker 1: after to be your head coach, um, And so if
Speaker 1: you look at it and let's do it quickly, we'll
Speaker 1: go to AMC East. The Jets are gonna have a
Speaker 1: new a new guy. That's four, Jeff Um. That's it there,
Speaker 1: n the hold on. Let's do the f C North Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: No Baltimore, No Cincinnati, no Cleveland. Okay, all right, let's
Speaker 1: go to the West a f C West Chargers. I
Speaker 1: say yes. Maybe, I say yes, Um, Denver, I don't
Speaker 1: think so anymore. Maybe kan Cy No Oakland No, So
Speaker 1: you're five uh in the a f C South Tennessee,
Speaker 1: No Houston. We've already added uh indian A Jackson will
Speaker 1: Let's just sue like, okay, you're at six, um, fine, yes,
Speaker 1: but without Jackson's five five without Jacksonville set them aside,
Speaker 1: because we're going out. We might have to go after it.
Speaker 1: If you go on the NFC, Atlanta is already on
Speaker 1: the list. Carolina is a no, Tampa's a no. And
Speaker 1: NFC East. I think Philly is gonna have a new
Speaker 1: coach probably. Um, that gives you six Giants. No Redskins,
Speaker 1: no Dallas No. Um. In the North Chicago, I think
Speaker 1: we'll have a new coach at seven. Um, yeah, that's eight. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't put Detroit. Oh yeah, Detroit wasn't there. Sorry,
Speaker 1: And and um, that's it by Green Bay. Now you're
Speaker 1: at seven. And then the West Arizona, no, Seattle, no
Speaker 1: San Francisco, so you're at that's seven jobs. They're most
Speaker 1: likely going to be open besides the Jaguars. So now
Speaker 1: you have to start thinking if the Jaguars end up
Speaker 1: making a move, which we'll wait and see, I think
Speaker 1: you have the higher GM they're gonna make a move.
Speaker 1: Are there eight head coaches? You said you're enamored without
Speaker 1: or candidates that you're enamored without therapy. Uh. Here, I'll
Speaker 1: give you a couple. Arthur Smith Okay, that's interesting to
Speaker 1: me from Eric Enemy. Okay, Arthur smithsit Tennessee. By the way,
Speaker 1: thank you's done a great job. Robert Salem, Robert Robert
Speaker 1: salt is going to be a head coach somewhere next
Speaker 1: yearn um. I thought firing left, which maybe get interviewed,
Speaker 1: but now they afterwards happened this year. I think Brady's
Speaker 1: going to torpedo him and that's the end of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you will Joe Brady, Joe Brady. But
Speaker 1: in the league and you hire a thirty you know
Speaker 1: is I mean, that's the thing they're gonna He didn't
Speaker 1: get interviewed. What about Staley the defense daily, the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator in uh with the charge with the Rams. It's
Speaker 1: a good year. He's done a really good job. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he hasn't. I'm just saying I think this
Speaker 1: is the first year coordinating at any level. He was
Speaker 1: a linebacker last year. Yeah, I mean that's you're you're
Speaker 1: you're making the point. There aren't a lot of it's like,
Speaker 1: it's not I mean you have to start looking around,
Speaker 1: started thinking, Okay, if there's eight jobs and Daniels good,
Speaker 1: it will be in the mix again. But he never
Speaker 1: takes the job. He always backs out right, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he's gonna be he's waiting for Bill to give him
Speaker 1: the Patriot job. But McDaniels is a candidate. There's no
Speaker 1: question about what about what about Matt Eberflus, I know
Speaker 1: nothing about him outside of the India having a good
Speaker 1: defense this year. I've were good things for people. I
Speaker 1: talked about them, but no idea, all right, we can,
Speaker 1: we can. Contin You're right, there's gonna be seven or
Speaker 1: eight jobs and there might be five or six guys
Speaker 1: to fill them. Yeah, I'm just saying it's interesting. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a. It's a. There's a And that's why you
Speaker 1: have to get in front of this thing. If you're
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, if that's the move you made, because it's
Speaker 1: gonna be finite of the like, there's gonna be competitions
Speaker 1: for the guy you want. Now, then you have to
Speaker 1: start thinking outside the box. Is there a college coach
Speaker 1: you'd go after? Is there a guy like would you
Speaker 1: go make a run at Brian Kelly? What about Urban
Speaker 1: Meyer or Urban Meyer? Would you make a run at
Speaker 1: one of those guys and empty the you know, checkbook?
Speaker 1: Would you go and say, hey, we need a quarterback guy,
Speaker 1: So maybe I'll go try to lure Lincoln Riley out
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma because they're drafting a young quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: those are the type of things you have to be
Speaker 1: thinking about because as far as assistance that are hot,
Speaker 1: which is always dangerous because you know those are gonna
Speaker 1: flame out and not have success because they can't make
Speaker 1: the jump from coordinator to head coach. And if we
Speaker 1: are struggling to name names right now, well it's an
Speaker 1: interesting dilemma. You find yourself and you have to figure
Speaker 1: out who's the next set coaches and it's to be
Speaker 1: competitive and you gotta get started. Dance afty. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a time out. Social questions are coming up,
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Speaker 1: thirteen of the NFL season, we'll go around the league
Speaker 1: coming up, including another change to the Steelers Ravens game
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Speaker 1: Let's get to the social questions. We put out the
Speaker 1: bat signal early in the day and here's the best
Speaker 1: we've come up with. And on Monday at Sam I
Speaker 1: Am Sheer thirteen. What's the benefit in getting rid of
Speaker 1: the g M a little early? And what can you
Speaker 1: tell us of the guy that's going to be the
Speaker 1: interim GM. Well, we've we've gone over why I mean
Speaker 1: all show, I mean get in front of it. You
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be competitive. We just talked through the
Speaker 1: openings on the head coaching side that are gonna be there.
Speaker 1: We think there's seven day jobs will be open and
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be competitive there. And then the flip
Speaker 1: side of that is is you want to get the
Speaker 1: GM in place, in my opinion, so that guy's picking
Speaker 1: your quarterback, um, and so to do that and to
Speaker 1: be ready to enter the sweep stakes for all these
Speaker 1: open jobs and trying to get your guy, you want
Speaker 1: to be ready right at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: So I think Seangahn wanted to get in front of it.
Speaker 1: It was the right thing this time. And again you're competing.
Speaker 1: You compete on the field, you're competing for for guys
Speaker 1: to come in and take over that job. And I
Speaker 1: think it's an attractive job. I'm biased, probably a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I do think it's an attractive job for a
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. No state income tax big part of it. Uh,
Speaker 1: you got a ton of draft picks, tons of draft picks,
Speaker 1: draft capital and cap room. You give somebody that they
Speaker 1: should be able to turn that team around. Particularly with
Speaker 1: one is number two overall pick. That means you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a quarterback that means you're gonna get one of
Speaker 1: the two top quarterbacks in the draft, and you hope
Speaker 1: that that guy ends up being a franchise guy for
Speaker 1: a long time. But if you can't turn it around
Speaker 1: with what they have available in terms of draft capital
Speaker 1: and tap room, then you got a problem. And by
Speaker 1: the way, you have an owner that's willing to spend
Speaker 1: and is somewhat patient to make this thing go the
Speaker 1: right way. Tony, Yeah, I know I argue that. And
Speaker 1: and the other part of the question was Trent Balky
Speaker 1: is the intern GM? Yeah he is. No, I'm saying
Speaker 1: he's not. If somebody asked if he's no, they were
Speaker 1: asking what type of guy is he? Who is he?
Speaker 1: He's a former guy GM for the forty Niners, was
Speaker 1: there when they made the Super Bowl runs, and now
Speaker 1: he's a personnel guy that was brought in this year. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get the job either. Pete
Speaker 1: our next question at Kane's nine oh four when the
Speaker 1: new GM comes into coaching staff, interested in who Pete
Speaker 1: and Tony would like to see get the job. Give
Speaker 1: me Joseph Brady from Carolina hashtag Pete for general manager. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a great hashtag, and Tony, don't worry, I'd hire
Speaker 1: you to be my assistant general matter wanted. You're a
Speaker 1: still honor you every every year with your Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor name up there, which is went through Joe Brady
Speaker 1: is gonna be a hot name. And I do I
Speaker 1: think you do have to consider. Um, you have to
Speaker 1: consider like you're you're gonna go draft a young quarterback
Speaker 1: and you need someone who can develop that young guy.
Speaker 1: And so like I think, like to me, the safest
Speaker 1: guy for a head coach who I think it would
Speaker 1: be really good. And maybe I'm biased, but I think
Speaker 1: Robert Sala will be a unbelievable head coach in this
Speaker 1: league for a long time. And you saw the day
Speaker 1: the commented uh uh Sherman came out and said about him,
Speaker 1: kind of giving him an endorsement as such a great coach.
Speaker 1: And you look what he's done with that defense or
Speaker 1: top five defense with every player known the mankind being out. Um.
Speaker 1: So I think he's really good head coach. But the
Speaker 1: question is, if you were to interview Robert Sala and
Speaker 1: you want him, like you're considering for the head coach,
Speaker 1: the most important question pete for him is tell me
Speaker 1: you're playing for a working quarterback. Tell me who's running
Speaker 1: your offense. Who's running the offense? And if you can't
Speaker 1: answer that, then this isn't the right job. Now. If
Speaker 1: you can, I love it. I think Robert, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I think Robert sal is going to be a hell
Speaker 1: of a head coach. But is the cell in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: tougher because he's from the gust Bradley tree. From a
Speaker 1: perception standpoint, yes, I think that's right, But he's really
Speaker 1: from the Shanahan tree. Now, if you look at it
Speaker 1: from a coordinary stand coordinator, coordinator, him being a coordinator,
Speaker 1: that's a and so if you look at from that standpoint,
Speaker 1: it's really Shanahan. I think he's learned a lot from that.
Speaker 1: You look at his defense, similar principles but completely different
Speaker 1: styles at the end of the day, and I think
Speaker 1: highly of Gus so he didn't work out his head coach.
Speaker 1: But you ask people in the league. One of the
Speaker 1: best coordinators in the NFL um from on the defense
Speaker 1: side of the ball. So I think from a perception standpoint,
Speaker 1: Pete because that's what people know. And and in fairness
Speaker 1: to the fans of Jackson. They're not following the in
Speaker 1: detail and who's doing what and how they operate and
Speaker 1: what he does and how he's thought of amongst you know,
Speaker 1: owners and people around the league. And he is one
Speaker 1: of the higher regarded guys UH as far as young coaches.
Speaker 1: So I think he's he's getting a job this year.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. I think he'll be a
Speaker 1: great head coach. But yes, the first question is, Um,
Speaker 1: what's your offensive plan? Because if you don't, because we're
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback and you better have a detailed plan
Speaker 1: of who it is who's gonna be running that side
Speaker 1: of the ball. And then the second thing I think
Speaker 1: you'd have to have on this conversation both internally and
Speaker 1: maybe even with him if you wanted to interview him,
Speaker 1: is this the best job for you because of some
Speaker 1: the uphill battle you're gonna face from day one from
Speaker 1: a perception standpoint, Arthur Smith is another name. Um. Done
Speaker 1: a great job with Townehill, done a great job with
Speaker 1: that offense, the creative, big play guys, UH, And he
Speaker 1: would be a guy that he'd be on the radar,
Speaker 1: and I think he should be on the radar. You
Speaker 1: talk about thing a young quarterback. I think he could
Speaker 1: develop a young quarterback and would come up with a
Speaker 1: system to cater to that young quarterback. So plus, um,
Speaker 1: you might not have to pay him as much. He's
Speaker 1: rich already. His dad his dad. You can't say in
Speaker 1: one breath we have an owner who doesn't care about
Speaker 1: he'll spend the money. And then you say part of
Speaker 1: them that's a joke because he and I always say,
Speaker 1: and he's the richest assistant coach in the league because
Speaker 1: his dad owns fed X and and there is actually
Speaker 1: a link there. Back in the day when Jackson was
Speaker 1: in the push to get the expansion team, we used
Speaker 1: to go to all these meetings. Well, his dad, fred Smith,
Speaker 1: was always trying to get a franchise from Memphis. So
Speaker 1: there's old time links there. And he's done a really
Speaker 1: good job. I give a lot of credit. There's no
Speaker 1: doubt about all. Right. Our next question from Samuel of Duval.
Speaker 1: For eight years, Tony defended Dave Caldwell's picks from Luke
Speaker 1: jokel to Zane Beatles. Is he finally going to apologize
Speaker 1: for the false new narrative now that he's gone. First
Speaker 1: of all, let let's be clear here. I never the
Speaker 1: Zame Beatles. I'm not sure he's not. He's not a
Speaker 1: draft pick. That he was a free agent signing, and
Speaker 1: I never defended him. If you go back to when
Speaker 1: we signed you, did you defended you defended Joo though,
Speaker 1: So let's be clear. So the Joko again, let's go
Speaker 1: back and that let's not have revisionist history. One of
Speaker 1: the worst drafts in modern history for top ten picks,
Speaker 1: and so everyone Pete, you included at the time, I
Speaker 1: thought that was the right pick, a number two, you
Speaker 1: could argue. I actually, if you go back to the
Speaker 1: actual time of the pick, I thought we should try
Speaker 1: to go get the answer because I thought he was better.
Speaker 1: But there's all kinds of questions around his age and
Speaker 1: maybe some injury history and everything else. And it's not
Speaker 1: like he's been great as a pro either better than Joko,
Speaker 1: but not a great pick. So that was a terrible draft.
Speaker 1: My defense of it was it was the first pick,
Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of options, and now that he
Speaker 1: was our left tackle, he had athletic ability, but I said,
Speaker 1: for day he has to it stronger, more powerful, and
Speaker 1: so I don't think that I don't think Pete. Even
Speaker 1: looking back, you'd killed Dave Caldwell for that pick based
Speaker 1: on that draft. No, but he could have taken Lane Johnson.
Speaker 1: He went for fair enough. I'm not saying Johnson's obviously
Speaker 1: a better place. I I'd like Ziggy. I'll be Ozmath.
Speaker 1: I like Ziggy Ansa too, But there were there was
Speaker 1: there were concerns about his age, and as it play
Speaker 1: it out, he's broken down a little bit as he's
Speaker 1: got a little older. And by the way I think
Speaker 1: everyone understands, also, we've been doing this show for a
Speaker 1: long time. Which way am I going to leave Pete?
Speaker 1: As far as are this organization that I'm a part of,
Speaker 1: and I've been a part of sin if I have
Speaker 1: to lead, which way am I leading? I'm gonna lead
Speaker 1: to support the players and try to give them the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt more than I would because if
Speaker 1: you listen to me on Westwood One and what I
Speaker 1: say talk about teams I have nothing to do with.
Speaker 1: It's a different a little bit of a different story,
Speaker 1: and so um listen, I have represent visions history. I
Speaker 1: never said anything about Zame Beatles, and yes did I
Speaker 1: to friend Luke Joko One. I also felt sorry for
Speaker 1: Luke Luke joke, because I thought the comparisons that were
Speaker 1: put on him from day one were unfair. He did
Speaker 1: look like By the way, there are two guys on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars roster right now who were first round picks
Speaker 1: in that draft. M hmmm, who are you tell? Wow?
Speaker 1: E J. Hayden Yeah and Tyler Eiffert. Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 1: And the best player of that entire draft is DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins for the first round. He was late first round,
Speaker 1: wasn't he correct? He went screwed that one up. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's true, all right, So you're with a bad draft
Speaker 1: all the way around, and the top ten was really bad.
Speaker 1: Think about that. Tavon Austin went in the top ten
Speaker 1: and you're right though, By the way, a Johnson was
Speaker 1: the guy that everyone thought. I mean, now you take him,
Speaker 1: but back then he was a right tackle and very
Speaker 1: few people wanted to take him. That thought he was
Speaker 1: a franchise guy at the time, so they took a
Speaker 1: spinning top instead. Said it was the wrong pick, There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But remember the pass rusher in
Speaker 1: that draft ended up being a bus to Dion Jordan's. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: he got to spending multiple times, and uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: that pick is there's no defending that pick. It was
Speaker 1: a bad draft and Joco just wasn't very good, even
Speaker 1: though you defended it for four years. You had a
Speaker 1: soft spot for the kid, admitted I did. He played
Speaker 1: the same position I thought it was and pet you
Speaker 1: and I talked about this slightly on air, but a
Speaker 1: lot off there. I thought it was wildly unfair of
Speaker 1: the expectations and everything thrown on him because that's not
Speaker 1: who he was. That wasn't his makeup, and that was
Speaker 1: the one thing we said from day one. He did
Speaker 1: not have the tough guy mental makeup and when they
Speaker 1: drafted him, that's not who he is. And then they
Speaker 1: asked him to be something and it was a tough
Speaker 1: situation as he never asked you for help. Believe that
Speaker 1: would be We'll move along. Three more questions, next one
Speaker 1: from at Waka Areena from Data Argentina. Come on, Jaguar
Speaker 1: is happy hour on Monday is the best day. I
Speaker 1: see New England losing against the Jets on the seventeenth week,
Speaker 1: so the division rival doesn't get Lawrence Salutos. I don't
Speaker 1: see a question there, But what if he what if
Speaker 1: Belichick rested every all it started and didn't start Cam
Speaker 1: just so the Jets couldn't get Trevor Lawrence. There be
Speaker 1: an investigation, right, I think the Commission would be involved
Speaker 1: at that point. Right, But I mean, oh, Garred Stidham
Speaker 1: is gonna start to get an evaluation on him for
Speaker 1: next year because you're not gonna bring Cam back. Bill.
Speaker 1: Bill likes winning too much. You wouldn't do it. What
Speaker 1: if his team is six and nine at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that would be priceless. And the
Speaker 1: jack war Jackson would send like Belichick, like bouquets and
Speaker 1: candy and steaks and everything else. Does that happen? Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be mad. I'm not gonna be mad
Speaker 1: to that much. Right now. I will not be mad. Alright.
Speaker 1: We got Sweeney and uh and um Trevor Lawrence together
Speaker 1: in Jackson. If you're David Daddle Sweeney, why would you
Speaker 1: leave Clemson where you make ten million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: you get every kid you want, and you run the
Speaker 1: entire place. Yeah? And does that? Does that? Does he
Speaker 1: appeal to the NFL player? Yeah? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know him well enough to speak the ra you
Speaker 1: know the ras. Just well, people said the same thing
Speaker 1: about Pete Carroll. He did pretty good in Seattle, True,
Speaker 1: he didn't do so well in New England. Nope, let's
Speaker 1: move along at Devil x Jaguar. Hey, can I get
Speaker 1: a birthday shout out on the show today? Well? Happy birthday?
Speaker 1: Also you get a happy birthday from JP that matters
Speaker 1: more than me and Tony giving you one since he's
Speaker 1: solo on all these lists. Here's the rest of the question. Also,
Speaker 1: what will it take to get this team back to
Speaker 1: being relevant? Which quarterback in the draft fits the current
Speaker 1: players best and gives this team the best chance to
Speaker 1: win next year? Also, do you keep Gruden? I think
Speaker 1: they cleaned. I think they clean house completely. Obviously. The
Speaker 1: guy who gives you the best chances the best quarterback,
Speaker 1: which is Trevor Lawrence. You don't know if you're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to be drafted number one, So then if
Speaker 1: that's not the if you don't get Trevor Lawrence, then
Speaker 1: you get you get Justin Field, who I haven't a
Speaker 1: couple of games. There's there's a lot of life. There's
Speaker 1: some concerns, but there's a lot of like he's not
Speaker 1: the slam He's not the slam dunk guy that that
Speaker 1: he sometimes locks on. I think just In and I
Speaker 1: haven't done a ton of work on him either. Just
Speaker 1: in the games I've watched, I think he's sometimes locks
Speaker 1: on a little bit. Yeah, a lot of work to
Speaker 1: be done. That's one thing. You know, whether you have
Speaker 1: the first pick or a second pick, you're gonna do
Speaker 1: a ton of work on both those guys. What would
Speaker 1: you give up the guard? What would you if you
Speaker 1: got the chance to go to one? What would you
Speaker 1: give up to go up there? Well, Bee, I think
Speaker 1: that goes back. You have to do all the work first,
Speaker 1: because you have to you have to kind of figure
Speaker 1: out what's the delta between Lawrence and Fields? How big
Speaker 1: a delta? Once you determine, once you do, Once you
Speaker 1: determine that, then that tells you how much you're willing
Speaker 1: to give up to move up? Right? Was there like
Speaker 1: the delta between Burrow and Herbert? A lot of people
Speaker 1: thought it was big, and it clearly it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not that big, and so you would have been foolish
Speaker 1: to trade up a bunch, Not that maybe brows a
Speaker 1: little bit better, but would you give up everything to
Speaker 1: move up. Put them all in the same Put Lawrence,
Speaker 1: Burrow and Herbert in the in the basket? Right now?
Speaker 1: Which one are you taking first rank? Well, you're you're
Speaker 1: assuming Herbert, I mean the Borrow is healthy, right, Um,
Speaker 1: I would probably go Lawrence one, Burrow too, and Herbert three. Boy,
Speaker 1: but you you can make a case for going on.
Speaker 1: I almost went Laurence Herbert Burrow. I would go Lawrence
Speaker 1: Herbert Burrow. Now I might go Lawrence Burrow Herbert. That's
Speaker 1: what I just said, basically following me, thank you all right,
Speaker 1: you'll be an outstanding you like two or more than
Speaker 1: all of them anyway, so you'll be a good assistant.
Speaker 1: Our final question at oodory eleven, I wish the best
Speaker 1: for Dave Caldwell. He left the Jags with a lot
Speaker 1: of young, promising talent and high future draft picks. What
Speaker 1: are the rules on hiring a GM? Does the Rooney
Speaker 1: rule apply? And can they hire someone like Mike Borgonzi
Speaker 1: right away? The ru rule applies and a yeah, Michael
Speaker 1: is on the Chiefs right now, Um, working under Beach.
Speaker 1: And here's what this is what this is, this is
Speaker 1: what we do this time of year. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: which teams are successful and let's go just like you think,
Speaker 1: whoever just tweeted that has any idea who Mike is
Speaker 1: or what he does or what his skill set is,
Speaker 1: could he lead? Could he do? I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: we have no idea. You don't. I mean you you
Speaker 1: cover it daily, you don't know. Now you can make
Speaker 1: some phone calls and find out and get a sense
Speaker 1: of it, but you're also gonna be talking to guys
Speaker 1: that know what we're gonna tell you. You You know, you know,
Speaker 1: probably on the more positive side. But this is what
Speaker 1: we knew, and this is why you see a lot
Speaker 1: of failures in my opinion, Pete, because we lit we
Speaker 1: stack rank these guys based on what they've done in
Speaker 1: a role that is not the role you're hiring them for.
Speaker 1: And because a team or a system has success, it's
Speaker 1: assumed the success. And we've see it at gms, and
Speaker 1: we see it at coaches and we've seen it. Just
Speaker 1: just list all the Belichick guys who fail and everyone
Speaker 1: hires them because they think they're Bill Belichick. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the biggest misquate those guys make is they
Speaker 1: try to be Bill Belichick, where they go. And so
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's where you see a lot of
Speaker 1: failures um in this league in the hiring your head
Speaker 1: coaches and gms, because it's hard. And I'm not putting,
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming. I'm not saying the owners don't know
Speaker 1: what they're doing right. But it's hard. It's a hard
Speaker 1: thing to evaluate somebody we're hiring to do a job
Speaker 1: that they've never done, and you're trying to discern do
Speaker 1: they have the skill set to lead, because that's the
Speaker 1: most important quality. I did send out some text to
Speaker 1: guys I know and checked on a few guys and
Speaker 1: I don't know Arthur Smith. I just don't. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to see what kind of guy was and the
Speaker 1: guys I ask he checked the box. You know, he
Speaker 1: works his butt off. He's a good football coach. He
Speaker 1: loves it, you know. And the guy who's entitled, like
Speaker 1: you know you're born into that, you might be entitled.
Speaker 1: None of that. Zero And Ryan Cowen is another name
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be package deals. Think about it that way, Tony,
Speaker 1: if you hired uh, you know, general manager, he's likely
Speaker 1: going to bring his own guy in. So Ryan caw
Speaker 1: the name that's been mentioned to me from Tennessee. If
Speaker 1: he was hired, Uh, he would hire like somebody like
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith or Adam Peters who's in San Francisco. He
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Speaker 1: to the Browns. J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony was
Speaker 1: Sally glad you're along with us. Let's this is normally
Speaker 1: the time of the show, we go through the a
Speaker 1: f C South Power rankings, but I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and make an executive decision that will just show the standings.
Speaker 1: That's what they are, right, there's that agreement, that's what
Speaker 1: they are. The Titans one in first place. The Titans. Titans,
Speaker 1: even though they spool, Yeah, they have a better record.
Speaker 1: Feat that usually how it works. Do you watch the
Speaker 1: game yesterday? They destroyed it. I mean come on, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, come on see either you have it Tennessee, Indy, Houston, Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. Well, maybe the top could change
Speaker 1: who knows down the last month. But there you have it.
Speaker 1: That's the a f C South Power rankings. I saved
Speaker 1: us five minutes there. Let's get now to the not
Speaker 1: so powerful rankings for draft order. The Jaguars are officially
Speaker 1: eliminated from postseason contention. I know you're holding out, hope, Tony,
Speaker 1: so we can start talking draft a little more. Now,
Speaker 1: Let's start with twenty five, and that's where the Rams are.
Speaker 1: That's where the Jaguars would pick. Um. It's that would
Speaker 1: be the divisional round losers. Who knows, if they don't
Speaker 1: get in, it could be higher obviously. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: we'll go to the teams that are four and seven.
Speaker 1: That starts at twelve with the Denver Broncos at four
Speaker 1: and seven. The Texans would have the eleventh pick. They
Speaker 1: would give it to the Dolphins, though four and seven
Speaker 1: Falcons four and seven, would pick ten at number nine,
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and number eight, the Washington Football team
Speaker 1: at number seven, the Philadelphia Eagles at three, six and
Speaker 1: one at number six, the Carolina Panthers at four and
Speaker 1: eight at number five, at Los Angeles Chargers at three
Speaker 1: and eight number four, the Dallas Cowboys at three and
Speaker 1: eight number three, Cincinnati Bengals at two, eight and one
Speaker 1: number two, the Jaguars at one and ten with a
Speaker 1: five fifty five strength of schedule, and the New York
Speaker 1: Jets at oh eleven with a five eight nine strength
Speaker 1: of schedule. Currently those are you're not so powerful draft rankings.
Speaker 1: You know what. Jp You look at around the teams
Speaker 1: around the Jaguars, and most of those teams don't need quarterback. Bengals, Cowboys, Chargers, Panthers,
Speaker 1: they're the one, but the rest of those don't need quarterback. Well,
Speaker 1: the Panther. Here's if you if you win two games,
Speaker 1: that puts you. Let's say everyone else loses every game
Speaker 1: except for you, and you win two games, so it
Speaker 1: gets you three wins. The only team you'll fall behind
Speaker 1: is the Bengals, um because they have the time and
Speaker 1: the Bengals aren't going to draft the quarterback. But that's
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden that you have to worry
Speaker 1: about someone trading up into number two spy right, the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. So at that point, unless you evaluate the
Speaker 1: kids from by U or some other quarterback out there
Speaker 1: as good enough for to take it three that you
Speaker 1: have confidence in, you're gonna have to give up some
Speaker 1: draft capital. Don't worry, don't worry, need not worry one bit.
Speaker 1: There is not gonna be another victory happening in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: this year, so don't worry about I'm not sure you
Speaker 1: said Cleveland. No, I said Minnesota too. They're not beating
Speaker 1: Minnesota at Minnesota. So where's the other one come. Where's
Speaker 1: the possibility come from Baltimore. Baltimore might have like eighty
Speaker 1: guys out with co H by that time. They'll run
Speaker 1: through it and they'll be immune to it, so they'll
Speaker 1: be falling. And then you have, indeed, Tennesee at home.
Speaker 1: They're not beating Tennessee cold last game of the year
Speaker 1: if they need it, they're not winning there, so don'ty,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. They'll have the number two pick,
Speaker 1: maybe number one well, the Bangals aren't lose. They're not
Speaker 1: they're not winning. They're not winning any more games. No,
Speaker 1: not with that, not with not with Brandon Allen, by
Speaker 1: the way, we could pencil him maybe in. By the way,
Speaker 1: he's another one we can put on the lawne Jacob Waite,
Speaker 1: How do you say it, Tony, that's the first time,
Speaker 1: that's the first time Pete has ever gotten this guy.
Speaker 1: The guy's name, right, was another name before that? Right?
Speaker 1: So there you have it, the not so powerful draft order.
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Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Buzselly Glad you're along with us today
Speaker 1: and let's go around the National Football League and some
Speaker 1: news that has broken over the last little bit here
Speaker 1: during the second hour of the show, more changes to
Speaker 1: Steelers Ravens. It was scheduled Thanksgiving night. It was going
Speaker 1: to be scheduled on Monday, it got moved to Tuesday. Well,
Speaker 1: now it's been moved to Wednesday and the next week
Speaker 1: Steelers game against Washington has been moved back to Monday night.
Speaker 1: So a lot of changes all the COVID world. It's
Speaker 1: going through the Ravens football team right now, Pete, and
Speaker 1: it's a lot going on for Baltimore, all these changes
Speaker 1: trying to get obviously a very important football game in
Speaker 1: well at least they have a quarterback we can play
Speaker 1: on like the Denver Broncos on Sunday. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's we're a week twelve and there hasn't been a
Speaker 1: game canceled. That that speaks to the NFL and speaks
Speaker 1: to what the players have done so far to make
Speaker 1: this a reality. And let's hope it continues. And let's hope.
Speaker 1: The only reason the game hasn't been canceled because then
Speaker 1: bye weeks to play with and they moved, but they
Speaker 1: have there's no more bye weeks to play with. It's over.
Speaker 1: The bye week care assault is over. So now they
Speaker 1: are trying to shove gains in anyway they can. That's
Speaker 1: why they're gonna play the announced Wednesday for Steelers Ravens
Speaker 1: and then when they get hoping they get two days
Speaker 1: of tests and then Monday, um the Monday before the
Speaker 1: football team against the Steelers. But you look at this
Speaker 1: past week. They forced the Broncos to play a game
Speaker 1: without a quarterback. Yeah, that was well, the Broncos kind
Speaker 1: of forced it on themselves because they self reported the
Speaker 1: incident and then the tape became available and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know then the NFL looked at it and said
Speaker 1: they were you know, masks down at times when they
Speaker 1: were eating and they kept them down and everything else.
Speaker 1: But you know how many there were no positive tests
Speaker 1: among the quarterback none they were They were put out
Speaker 1: because they were close to Yeah, they were, they were
Speaker 1: close to Jeff Friscoll. So I mean the NFL has
Speaker 1: gotta ask it quite asked the question. Yeah, you want
Speaker 1: to be diligent, you want to be safe, But if
Speaker 1: a guy is not sick and you don't have a quarterback,
Speaker 1: should he be held out? Is that right? Is that
Speaker 1: a good thing to the lease that the Dick Fangio
Speaker 1: came out and was mad at his quarterbacks. He wasn't
Speaker 1: mad at the NFL. I'm not saying it. My point
Speaker 1: is if they would have been earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: they would have they would have not played the game.
Speaker 1: They would have managed with the bye week and they
Speaker 1: had figured it out. Now they're gonna play games on Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 1: They're gonna play games no matter what. Because they did
Speaker 1: not want a week before the playoffs. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know why they pushed back so much on that. Well.
Speaker 1: Be the bigger issue for me is what are they
Speaker 1: you're doing to get in the playoffs, because I don't
Speaker 1: the vaccine is not gonna be meaningful by the time
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Good here, COVID is not disappearing before the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the heart of winter in most of
Speaker 1: these places where people are inside all the time. What
Speaker 1: are they gonna do? Because if you had a run
Speaker 1: of an out an outbreak during the playoffs, I mean
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't talking about bubbling teams and putting
Speaker 1: him in a hotel like you said the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season, you with it. I said, I think you
Speaker 1: have to do it. I think you're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to quarantine these teams because otherwise there's
Speaker 1: no way you're gonna make it. Where's the spread coming from?
Speaker 1: You know the reports Now that the children don't spread it,
Speaker 1: that's where they're going to reopen the school so the
Speaker 1: kids aren't giving it to the parents. So where's it
Speaker 1: coming from. Well, they're going out. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they're going to dinner. They're probably picking the stuff up
Speaker 1: the gas station. Who knows. I mean, it just takes
Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, And did you see the fourty
Speaker 1: nights have to play two home games in Arizona to
Speaker 1: California is shut down. Northern California specifically is shut down.
Speaker 1: All right, we have family up there. My wife would
Speaker 1: just tell me during the last commercial break, all kids sports.
Speaker 1: They have kids that are getting ready to play hockey.
Speaker 1: For the last year, everything shut down completely. They can't
Speaker 1: leave like it's nothing out for four weeks. So if
Speaker 1: they were okay, California has been one of the strictest
Speaker 1: states in terms of shutting down. If it didn't work,
Speaker 1: what's the point of doing it again? A good pete.
Speaker 1: You gotta ask the one who get paid a lot
Speaker 1: more money than you, and I can tell you those things.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm not Dr Prisco or Prisco the scientists,
Speaker 1: although back in the day I did play doctor when
Speaker 1: cough in mind about injuries and I had to figure
Speaker 1: out what everybody was hurt with. But you know, silly hip,
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Speaker 1: a private plane, send them home. Oh man, that was
Speaker 1: would not be funny because expressing on your face as
Speaker 1: priceless every time I say it, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Let's such in a couple of games from yesterday, running
Speaker 1: short on time, the well, the Patriots seventeen over the Cardinals. Pete,
Speaker 1: are you counting the Patriots out? They have some life
Speaker 1: for now? No, it just Cat Newton didn't even bed
Speaker 1: for a hundred yards and they won the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: bad loss for Arizona, really bad loss. The kicker make
Speaker 1: your kick he missed. He missed the field goal of
Speaker 1: a minute forty left, and uh then they went down
Speaker 1: and got one. Make your kick about the Broncos yesterday
Speaker 1: without the quarterbacks kid has going there. I think he
Speaker 1: was like one for seven or something passing that game
Speaker 1: set quarterbacking back to the tebow era. I mean it
Speaker 1: was so bad, it was awful. I felt bad for
Speaker 1: hinting he went in there. He never played quarterback, didn't
Speaker 1: even get any snaps with any reps. They didn't even
Speaker 1: know who he was. But Tasstom Hill can't pass either.
Speaker 1: All the tastom Hill hype is was his way out
Speaker 1: of control. He stinks too. How about the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. The Chiefs had a big lead, Bucks came
Speaker 1: back up within three, had some things going on the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, but the Chiefs hold on. Tommy is not happy.
Speaker 1: He doesn't look happy. He looks miserable. Is the beef
Speaker 1: real between him and Arians or is this media makeup? Well?
Speaker 1: Did you see Arians came out and said that Brady
Speaker 1: picks the plays and calls the plays there his plays,
Speaker 1: And all Romo did was defend Brady on Sunday. I
Speaker 1: mean I didn't I didn't get it. I think when
Speaker 1: you look at this situation, Brady might be losing a
Speaker 1: little bit now maybe then you don't. You see him
Speaker 1: pouting and moping, and you know, he's always been a
Speaker 1: guy who you know you could read his body language.
Speaker 1: Remember the Giants used to hit him and make him
Speaker 1: pout and moan and see ghosts and everything else. That's
Speaker 1: what's starting to happen with him. And he's not hitting
Speaker 1: the deep shots. He did it one yesterday though. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The biggest issue is his deep ball accuracy is just
Speaker 1: gun out the window. It's gone, it's disappeared, it's left
Speaker 1: the building. If you had to pick right now, are
Speaker 1: the Chiefs They're gonna win it all again? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are the favorite. Yeah with you.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Packers might have something to say about that.
Speaker 1: They look pretty good last night again too, Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't think they know. They played against the Bears awful offensively, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the Bears defense is pretty good and they carved
Speaker 1: in the shreds last night. Time. That's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough offense to stop in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Time for Monday night football. It's a battle of the
Speaker 1: birds in the City of Brotherly Love, and tonight in
Speaker 1: South Billy, Carson Wentz in the Philadelphia Eagles could vault
Speaker 1: in the first place in the NFC East with a
Speaker 1: win over Russell Wilson and the suddenly human Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Who you got tonight in Philadelphia? It might be I
Speaker 1: got this and not win. It's gonna be wins. They'll
Speaker 1: put in some gimmick packages for hers. He's not to
Speaker 1: play quarterback. I don't think I would. I think Seattle
Speaker 1: goes in there and throws it around, although the Eagles
Speaker 1: can rush the quarterback, and they're banged up on on
Speaker 1: the deep on the offensive line and Seattle's banged up
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. But I'll take Seattle. I don't
Speaker 1: love it, but I'll take him. Yeah, I'll take the
Speaker 1: better quarterback. I'll take Russell Wilson. I think he uh
Speaker 1: plays a little better, doesn't throw it to the wrong
Speaker 1: color jersey as much tonight as he has the last
Speaker 1: few weeks. And I think a gotta go Pete Sia,
Speaker 1: Tony Sia. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour. Thank
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