WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, November 30 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:11.440 It is Monday. This is Jet Laws Happy Hour. Jaguars 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:15.040 Happy I was presented by Jet Home Loans. Hey now 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:20.120 a guy who recently tested positive for peacn pie. J 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.640 That's a great open, a great one. Welcome in Jaguars 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:31.160 Happy Our presented by Jet Home Loans. My name's J. P. Shadrick. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.239 We've got a busy program today. Glad you're along with 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:38.280 us on this Monday, after week twelve. This was coming 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.479 up on the show today. Pete Briscoe and Tony Busselly 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.040 are standing by to get into the aftermath of the 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.639 Browns Jaguars game. Yes, we will touch on the game 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.440 a little later in the show. The biggest news though, 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.840 of course, Dave Calledwell fired as the general manager after 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:58.000 yesterday's game. Jaguars owner Shot con said that Doug Marona 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.880 and the staff are safe through the twenty twenty season. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.800 So what's next. We'll get into all that. We'll go 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.640 around the a f C South, because we must, they're 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.959 not so powerful. Draft order is coming up, and the 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.480 Jags are pretty high up, of course, and we'll go 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:18.120 around the National Football League. Jaguars to the Browns the 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.199 tenth consecutive loss. But in the aftermath, shotgun fired, Dave 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.399 called Well releasing a statement about five thirty saying that 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.920 he had met with called Well to express his appreciation 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.080 for his service to the Jaguars. He was committed and 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.120 determined to bringing a winner to Jacksonville, but the efforts 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:38.040 were not rewarded with results, and the football operation needs 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.120 new leadership, and we'll have it with a new general 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.959 manager in one. It ends a run for Caldwell that 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:50.400 started in under his leadership as the GM. The Jaguars 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.720 had a thirty seven and eighty six record overall in 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.280 the regular season. At least, they had one playoff runt, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:01.080 of course, in nine first round draft picks, but four 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.600 are currently with the team. Davin Brian, Josh Allen, C. J. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.480 Henderson and calebon Chason are the ones left over the 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.240 last three drafts. He had some hits in deeper parts 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.079 of the draft, but not enough hits at the very 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.120 top of the draft, and certainly the results on the 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:20.480 field speak for themselves. Pete Frisco, Tony Basselli joining us now. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.960 Good afternoon, gentlemen. First off, Pete, what do you think 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:29.280 about the move? After the game yesterday? Shaw didn't fire Belly. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:38.400 What did you say I said Shaw didn't fire Baselly. Well, 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.720 I mean if he said fire me, he's firing you too. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:47.880 Are we a package deal? I will think so, Tony. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.560 Before we get into all this about the firing and everything, 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.640 I want to say. JP is sending out tweets the 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.360 other day about I guess we were nominated that Jaguars 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.480 Happy Hour was nominated one the best radio shows in town. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:06.639 But what folio is weekly best of Jack's cot Okay, 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:12.480 and then it says best radio host nomination. You know who? 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:17.160 You know who's nominated? Tony J. P. Shadrick. I think 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:22.840 he and his family stuffed the ballot box these elections. Well, 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.520 I don't think there's any doubt that this is the 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.840 best show because you and I are, so let's be 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.240 clear about that. I will say I think the shows 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.560 might be an anchor. The show was nominated because of 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.280 the segment that Tony missed the last week when we 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.520 talked about James Robinson, Pete and I. That fifteen minute 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.640 window I think got us the domination. No, JP, you're 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.720 glossing over everything. It didn't say Tony was nominated. Didn't 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.360 say me, It said you in an individual part of 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.760 the nomination. You I think you got the family and 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.000 your friends the stuff the ballot box. I don't have 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.320 that many friends, first of all, and second my family's 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.200 tiny would not work. So no, but Jaguar is happy. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:11.080 Elections thumbs up. We need to recount the vote early 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:15.520 and vote vote early in Austin early, and Austen vote 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.040 on at folio weekly. So let's get into it. Dave called, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:23.159 well gone after the game, guys, And how about the 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.479 timing of this pete? Is it too late? Is it 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.719 too early? Is it on time? Is there ever a 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.839 right time? Well, you can understand why they did it. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.320 Now you look around the league. The Lions just did it, 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.360 blew out the GM and coach. The Texans have already 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.039 done it. They're looking for a general manager UM and 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.200 a coach and the Falcon Falcons right, So now you're 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.360 you're in a race that's trying to identify the best 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.160 guy to fill that position who will then hire his coach. 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.680 And Doug Morone is staying. And I think in my 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.560 mind part of the reason he's staying is when they 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.960 fired Gus Bradley, Doug Morone came onto the interim coach 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.520 and he beat the Titans, I think, and played close 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.480 against the Colts and they had some life and then 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.440 they decided to keep them. Well, this gives them no 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.640 option to keeping anybody. You can't make Jay Gruden or 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.600 somebody the interim coach and he can win a couple 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.960 of games, a ruined the draft pick and give himself 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.440 some credibility. Now you're just gonna start from scratt Now, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.760 I think you go and everybody goes after the season. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.200 You start from the bottom and retool the whole thing. Well, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.599 I think what Pete is the first part is dead 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.760 on because you have I mean, you have four open things. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.040 Forget about the coach for a second. I think we 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.520 can get in this later. I think you're gonna have 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.120 as many as eight openings for head coaches this year. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.200 I think there's a bunch of them coming um and 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.520 so it's a race to get there. But before you 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.000 can even enter that race, you have de stability at 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.200 the top of the house on the football side, who 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.839 your GM is and who's gonna be running and leading 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.760 the football side of the business. And I think the 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.640 Lions doing that and even put more urgency because now 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.120 you have four open the GM spots that you're gonna 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.520 competing for. And I think in a perfect world you'd 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.480 like that GM in place right after the season is 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.159 over so you can enter into the uh the coaching 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.720 carousel or the coaching race to get your next guy. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.440 So I thought the timing was right. You never like it. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.960 We're talking about people's livelihoods. Dave Coldwell has been around 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.880 this organization. We all know him, we have relationships with them, 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.120 and so you never like it. But Dave knows. I mean, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.800 this is a very I mean, analytics have taken over 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.279 this all sports, and and some people like it, some 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:33.960 people don't. But you know what, you know what the 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.279 most most analytical thing you can measure is wins and 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.800 losses and that's the only metric at the end of 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.400 the day that matters UM and so UH and when 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:44.800 you're on the wrong side of the ledger and that 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.960 UH in that UH, when you to measure that or 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.880 that metric, you're gonna end up getting fired. And that 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.960 that's what happened. So I think timing wise, I understand it. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.960 You're now in for the race to fill that void 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.839 and finding the right guy to lead the football side 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.360 of the Jacksonville Jaguar. I think the hundred losses and 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.840 how that became an issue last week kind of spurred 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:11.040 on the con family to do something. I mean, it's 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.360 smart to do it, but I think that was kind 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.560 of the impetus to get it going. Tony, I really do. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:19.440 I think from a PR standpoint, that's a terrible Look. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.400 What are they that? What was it? JP second quickest 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.640 the hundred losses and any owner in the NFL, and 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.320 I think he's the first one who didn't take over 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.680 an expansion team to get that fat. It wasn't the last. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:37.360 The one who has the quickest was Culver house House 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.840 from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, right, So when you look 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:46.040 at that from that standpoint, it's it really was one 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.440 of those situations where I think they reevaluated and said, look, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.000 we gotta start doing something to turn the PR around. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.040 And and nobody plays PR campaigns, but when you're the 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.320 owner of the team and you're that guy, you're gonna 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.520 start doing something. So it was the right look, it 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.000 was the right thing to do in terms of the timing. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:02.600 Why wait until the end of the year, because you 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:03.680 knew they were going to do it at the end 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:08.120 of the year. So do you have it? Dave Caldwell out, 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.000 that means Director of Player Personnel Trent and Balky is 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.080 the interim GM. He's got to get him through the 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.640 season with transactions and everything going on. And he was 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:21.520 the former forty Niners general manager from eleven through sixteen. 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.960 He hired Jim Harbaugh out there, got him away from 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.520 Stanford and then the changes there. It got to the 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.440 Super Bowl, of course, and then things changed. Tom Slow 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.679 was there and then all of a sudden, Chip Kelly 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.360 was there, and then everybody was gone after the Chip 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:40.040 Kelly run in San Francisco. He started his career as 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:44.000 a scout. He's been here since January as the player 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.920 personnel director for the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's what's going to 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.480 happen for the next month, at least in the interim 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.959 role as general manager. Now, what about the coaching staff? 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.880 You ask head coach Doug Marone, and the staff are 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:01.400 safe through the season, according to shot Con and Doug Barrone. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:06.640 Today discussed everything that's happened since last night. You know, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.199 Dave and I had a good relationship, you know, I 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.480 I you know, it's not like you know, we haven't 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.800 been through this before meeting. You know, people that have 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:20.120 been in the league, you know, Um, you know, it's 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.680 obviously unfortunate, but um, you know, it is part of 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.040 the profession and we wish you know you Like I said, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.840 I spoke to Dave and you know, I wish him 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.800 and his family the best of luck. We had a 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:35.240 good relationship. Um, you know, it's it's very difficult, and 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.199 you know, my focus right now is not on all 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.559 the things that may be going on on the outside, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.559 but you know, trying to get the team to win 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.200 football games and m be there for the coaches and 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:50.320 the players. Doug Barron added today, guys that obviously, as 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.880 he just mentioned at the end, there, they're gonna go 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.840 out and try to win games. Still, that's what he 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.760 can do. What are the chances that he survives, is 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:04.720 he Oh yeah, I don't, I mean zero, I'd be shocked. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:12.640 I mean JP, it's time to just start a new 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.840 and whether you want to blame Dave or Doug or whatever, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.920 the proof is in the pudding. It's time to start over. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.680 It's time to rebuild the thing. It's time to bring 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:28.000 somebody in who brings their own coach in. Look, you 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:33.080 can pretty much guess that guys are jockeying already. I 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.800 imagine Trent Balkis making a predicted you know, he's making 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.040 a pitch to be the new GM. And then in 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:39.679 that case, oh well, you know I'd go out and 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:41.680 get this guy, or I'm gonna keep Doug. But I 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.840 think they all have to go, all of them, just 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.240 bringing new guys, bringing some new blood, change the culture, 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:51.080 turn it over. And you know, here's one higher, Tony 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.800 BASSELLI to be your general manager? Would you take a job? 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.920 You're the best? Um, I agree with you. I agree 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.040 hundred percent with what you're saying is a whole new 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.120 culture because if you look at it, and you said 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.400 something earlier about Shod having a hundred now a hundred 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.120 one losses since he's become an owner, and really nothing 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:12.920 has changed if you look at it since the day 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.440 he hired it and he brought in Dave Coldwell and 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:19.200 that whole crew. Outside of we changed that coaches once 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.680 Tom Coughlin showed up and got fired. Um, outside of that, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.640 it's been the same scouts, the same people, the same GM. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.840 I mean, it's really been um very few changes, and 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.880 I think it's time to your point, and it's not 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.560 my job to fire uh, Doug Moro own have called, well, 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.480 it's not your job either, Pete. But if you look 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.360 at it, at some point you have to say, we 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.480 need to change the culture, we need to change the attitude, 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.000 whatever it is. And sometimes it's not fair and sometimes 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.240 you just have to clean this late and start fresh 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.240 and so that there's a single um, you know, north Star, 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.040 if this is where we're going, this is who we are. UM. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.240 I don't care how you've done in the past or 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.800 what has the you know, good, bad or different. This 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.199 is how this is the new protocols, and this is 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.280 who we are as an organization, and this is how 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.360 things are gonna be done on the football side of 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.640 the team. And you need new leadership, uh, new voice 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:14.720 on that side of the building. I think is critical. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.679 And I'm not saying that because I think Doug's a 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.720 bad coach by any means. I've said all year. I 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.640 think he's done an outstanding job with this young team. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.360 And one of the things and that people listening here like, 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:25.760 are you an idiot? What do you mean is an 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.319 outstanding job? They have ten losses in a row. I 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.160 don't think it's a talented team. I don't think it's 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.840 a talented roster. I think it's a young roster that 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.880 has the potential talent on it. Um. But the way, 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:38.640 one of the reasons the way you measure a coach 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.360 is obviously ultimately wins and losses. But when you are 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.800 that young and that inexperience and that many gaps, you 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.240 have to watch how this team plays and how they 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.400 compete and how they fight. I mean, you're looking at 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.000 the team yesterday that is decimated by injuries on an 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.520 already super young roster that had some gaps talent wise, 0:12:55.920 --> 0:13:00.600 and you're rolling out there with Luke marco Is a 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.520 corner and Josiah Scott, and you know a bunch of 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.559 guys on the front that are either undrafted rookie free 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.840 agents or guys you just picked up and they're fighting 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.120 their tails off and you look at you know, you're 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.720 on your third quarterback of the year. Um. Yeah, you 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.960 have a undrafted rookie free agent playing running back, by 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.920 the way, a very good player. Um. And so you 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.440 put all those things together, Pete, you've seen it as 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.760 much as I have. In this league. You see teams 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.440 quit and you see guys to be selfish and play 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:35.320 for themselves, and you know, take opportunities. If the slidest oper, 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.160 you know, to find a way out of the game, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.320 they take it. I have not seen that on this 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:43.240 team at all, and under some really tough circumstances and 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.880 tough situations. And I get Doug in this staff a 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.160 ton of credit because that is one of the hardest 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.280 things to do when everything's going against you and you're 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.560 losing and you're not as talented as the people you're playing, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.640 to get guys to play hard every week. And he 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.440 has done that. And so however, I still think you 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.120 need a start, you need culture, a new voice, and 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.480 everything else. Here's the ticket, the celliest general manager, and 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.760 the only reason he gets the general manager title is 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.760 because he's up in the ring of honor. I'll be 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:16.920 as assistant general manager. We'll keep Tim Walsh because Tim 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.560 Walsh can do every contract known to man and knows 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.400 the cap like none other. So we'll keep Tim Walsh. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.720 Now we're redoing the whole organization right now. So well, yeah, 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.880 well me and you are starting. You're you're at the top. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.720 You'll be the general manager with the title. I'll be 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.080 your assistant general Manager Tim Walsh will stay on to 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:36.800 do cap. Then we just got to find a coach 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.960 Tony and there are a lot of candidates out there. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.600 I really like we got yeah, and we can go 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.160 through the coaches. But in like all like and we 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.280 should listen, let's talk about this shape. And I don't 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.760 know what the rundown, but I do think of like 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.240 who the next guy is, and whether you're joking or not, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.640 I'm flattered that you think I'd be a good gm 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.960 um and so I'll just I'll take you at your 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.160 ord is you're not joking, but I do think we 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:07.320 we should do that. That's my point. This is about 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.640 you need to get somebody who's a leader who knows 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.240 football and makes it all about football in the sense 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.720 of there is there's a bunch of things that the 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.920 process is important, how you do things are important, analytics 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.160 are important, how you measure things, and everything else. But 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.680 at the end of the day, every decision in this 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.920 organization needs to be made based on one thing and 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.720 one thing only, and that is at some point in 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.160 the near future, shot Con is sitting on a platform 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.920 getting the Lombardi Trophy from the Commissioner of the NFL, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.400 because that's why you play, that's why you exist as 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:42.040 an organization, is to strive to win a championship. And 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.880 the only way you do that, Pete, you have to 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.400 give yourself as many cracks as it is possible, meaning 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.520 you have to win your division and get into the 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:52.200 tournament year after year after year to have that opportunity, 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.120 and to do that, you better find a franchise quarterback, 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.240 and you better you better have some big guys who 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.080 can play football. That's how this game one. That was 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:07.840 a great campaign speech. By the way, I really like that. No, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:12.320 no I, Tony. You can talk all about analytics, um, 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.560 the salary cap fitting guys in the whole deal. What 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:20.240 it boils down to is really three things. Three things. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:25.680 Can your quarterback win games with his right arm? Do 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.720 you block? And do you tackle? That's when you really 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.440 bring it down to the simplest form of what everything 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.120 they do that matters gets into three things. Can your 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.080 quarterback win games with his right arm? Can your offensive 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.880 line block? And can you tackle? Period? All right, let's 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.560 take your time out here, guys. We've got plenty ahead 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.520 on this. Obviously, it's the major news story of the day. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:52.520 We'll touch on the game from yesterday. Not for long. 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:56.280 We'll touch on it. It it happened. It's ten consecutive 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.160 losses for the Jaguars. Second hour a little later, we'll 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.800 have your social questions. 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But uh, yeah, overall, 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:44.520 I felt good. Mike glennon starting quarterback yesterday for the 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.120 Jaguars and the loss to the Cleveland Browns. Welcome Back 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.480 Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans j P 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:55.359 Shadrick Pete, Frisco Tony Wasselley more on the aftermath of 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.399 the firing of Dave Caldwell a little bit later in 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.040 the program that coach Doug more On the staff are safe. 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.879 Through Mike Glennon. Yesterday, guys, it was twenty of thirty 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.280 five passing two d thirty five yards, a couple of touchdowns, 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.320 a rating of nineties six point seven. Would you make 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:18.479 of the performance yesterday, Pete? It was okay. It wasn't awful. 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:19.800 It was a little in fact that I'd be honest, 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:21.040 It was a little bit better than I thought it 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.680 would be. Um. He actually made a couple of big 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.280 time throws and looked like an NFL quarterback for a time. 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:29.680 There were times when it, you know, it waned a 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:32.439 little bit, but at all it was better. Uh, it 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.359 was better than I expected, to be honest with you. 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.159 It wasn't great, but better than I expected. Did they 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.960 make an announcement today on a quarterback? No, they did not. 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:41.840 Doug Maron said today that he has not had a 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:43.800 chance to talk to the team yet, so he's gonna 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.320 wait to do that before he announces what's what's going 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.639 to happen moving forward. But Pete did anticipate that Glennon 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.120 would be the quarterback again, Tony, I mean he does. 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.760 If you're Doug Marrone, you got five games. Other than that, 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.200 it doesn't matter. So why not go with the guy 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:01.320 maybe gives the best chance to win? And that looks 0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:04.440 to be Mike Lennon. So wouldn't you play him again? Yeah? 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.280 Based on what I've seen the three guys, it looks 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:10.199 like he gives you the best chance. And and if 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.160 you're Doug, you're right you you decide to go with 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:15.320 You know, you're trying to win football games. You don't 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:17.200 care about the draft or draft position. What does it 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:20.560 matter for you? Um? And he's thinking about his players 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.199 and the guys and I locker room, because they want 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:23.640 to win football games at the end of the day. 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:26.200 And so give give everyone, give the you know, put 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:28.760 the guy there, whoever it is. Um. But he didn't. 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.960 We kind of And I agree with you. I thought 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.760 it was good. I thought he was fine because I've 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.040 told people are like, he looks really good. I go, okay, great, 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:40.200 but it's he's still like, he's not gonna be good 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.720 enough to make a decision to pass on the quarterback 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:46.040 in the future. You're trying to figure out who your 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.040 backup is at this point. And didn't we know that 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:52.040 Mike Lennon had games like this in him because early 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:53.679 in his career I think it was a Tampa he 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:58.199 showed some spurts were like, hey enough where the Bears 0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:00.800 paid him like twenty million bucks to come in to 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.760 try to be the guy and and we and we 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:07.880 all know how that works out. Um, yeah, it was fine. 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.479 He's got a big arm because he looked accurate at 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:13.679 times in the pocket. You know, he's not overly athletic, 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:15.560 and that was you know, you could see that I 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.200 thought he could you know, a guy with an athletic 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:20.280 quarterback pipe runs the ball in on that two point 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:23.560 conversion because there was no one there. Um, but that's okay, 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.800 that's not who he is, So yeah, um, play him whatever. 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:31.359 But doesn't that say speak volumes about the state of 0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.560 the quarterback position on that team. If Mike Glennan gives 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:38.480 you the best option, I mean, that's all right there. 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:44.159 That's why number two overall draft pick is so important 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:47.800 to that franchise going forward, no matter who runs it, 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.440 because if you get the right quarterback, you're a football genius. 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.120 I mean you look, Brett Beach has done a really 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.359 good job in Kansas City, but if he doesn't have 0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.919 Patrick Mahomes, and give him credit, he identified him r 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.320 made sure that they went and got him. Is he 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.199 a good general manager? Hard to say, You don't know. 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:09.200 Probably not. If you solve the quarterback position, it solves 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:13.000 almost everything else. So that's why number two overall is 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.240 enormous for whoever does take that job. Yeah, but I 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.520 don't think Pete's fair to say he's not a good GM. 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:22.640 I think your I didn't say that, So I said, 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.160 do we know would he be getting all the accolades 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.960 that he's getting if he didn't say he got Mitch 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.960 Robinsky and not Patrick Mahomes. Would they be talking about 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:39.600 what a great GM he is? No, Okay, I agree 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.119 with that, but that's my point. So he's done his job. 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.360 So much of this speed is picking the right guy, 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.800 but also then building around that guy. Because I'll give 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.119 you an example. Um, look at the Colts when they 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.679 had the first overall pick, anyone could have picked Andrew 0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:58.080 Luck and Ryan Grigson their GM. At first it is like, oh, 0:25:58.119 --> 0:25:59.840 he's a good look at him, good GM, Well do 0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:01.840 out he was. He wasn't because he didn't build around 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:05.680 him properly traded for you know, Alabama running back. But 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.280 first round Trent Richardson was a disaster and everyone who 0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:11.400 watched him knew that was not the right to play 0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:15.040 um And he didn't build He didn't build the line 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:18.280 around him to protect Andrew Lucky, didn't build the defense 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.320 to keep him on the field. And so while just 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:26.320 getting the quarterback right doesn't mean you're a great GM, 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.920 but getting that quarterback right is critical to building a team. 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:31.000 And then you have to look at a guy like 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.600 Grett Fitch. I'm gonna give him credit. At the same time, 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.480 do you a are we fully clear of the roles 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:40.000 and responsibilities and how much influence Andy um Reid is 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.560 playing in that and how he is driving the organization 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:48.120 and is he really because beach and God, he's said 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.080 a lot in that building that that was his guy. 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.719 Even Andy Reid said it many times. So that's why 0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.880 that's why you have to give him credit. And they've 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:59.080 built a good team around it. They built to his strength. 0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.119 They built a good enough offensive line. Now they're not 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.160 playing as well this year. Mitchell Schwartz isn't playing as 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.679 well the right tackle, but a decent offensive line. They 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:08.919 have a guy who can affect the quarterback and Chris Jones. 0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.440 Um they're not great defensively other than that, but they 0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.879 do have that. And they said, you know what, we 0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:15.720 got this great quarterback. We're gonna give a weapon. We 0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.160 gotta tied in and we got a bunch of fast 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.280 guys who can run around, and we'll go find a 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:23.119 running back, you know, second, third, fourth, fifth, whatever. And 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.240 they've run out a bunch of different guys at running 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.399 back in Patrick Mahomes time there. So you have to 0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:31.560 give him credit um as the as the as the 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:35.040 GM of that organization. At the same time, part of 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.159 that credit is getting the quarterback right. We saw it 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:44.439 here in Jacksonville, Dave Caldwell at the house on Blake Bortles. Okay, 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.320 everyone misses here was the bigger mistake in my opinion, 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.080 And this is what I think is a quality of 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.280 really good gms and head coaches, by the way, is 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:56.720 when you omit your your mistakes early you know, in 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.760 business they call it failing fast, like go for it. 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.560 But when you're when you missed a minute, don't double 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.119 down and keep on going down because of pride or 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.359 ego or whatever else. And the biggest issue that happened 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.119 here with Dave called will It was not just missing 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.199 on Blake Portles. He missed Okay, great, But guess what 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.760 if he would have admitted his mistake after year three 0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.720 and said, missed it. I'm going to get me another one. 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:24.280 He had the opportunity to draft draft Patrick Mahomes or 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.240 Deshaun Watson that was sitting right there. And guess what 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:30.679 if you would have admitted his mistake and drafted Patrick 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.119 Mahomes or DeShawn Watson, he would still probably be the 0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.879 GM today because you have the quarterback and you'd be 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.080 a much better team. Well, I'll give you another example, Thomas, 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:44.320 to meet your off. Drafted Matt Ryan. And when if 0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.280 Matt Ryan came to the Falcons, they were dreadful. Remember 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.840 how bad they were, they were awful. Well, he came 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:53.640 there and then they had success. They built around them 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.840 a little bit. They got you know, they got the weapons, 0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.200 and they had within a whisker winning the Super Bowl. 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.360 But then it started the fray, and it's fray. They 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.840 couldn't solve the pass rush issue. They tried everything imaginable 0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.280 to do that, and they had some injuries, and then 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:10.600 they had this big cap number and added this big 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.400 cap number and they had something. And then even though 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.360 Matt Ryan still playing at a pretty high level, not 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.680 Patrick Mahomes level, but pretty high level, they weren't sustainable anymore. 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.280 And that's why you talk about if you have the quarterback, 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:27.840 get the quarterback, identify the quarterback, then you have success. 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.600 But the good gms will be the ones that will 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.080 be able to continue that when you have to pay 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.280 the quarterback and still supplement around them. Yeah, but I'll 0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.640 give you the reason that they fell apart in Atlantaped. 0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:42.200 It was a combination of head coach and GM because 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.560 it was not just building it right and missing on 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.080 some draft picks and not getting it right at certain positions. 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.040 The bigger issue in my was after the Super Bowl 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.960 they let when Kyle Shanahan got the job at the 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:56.560 four nine, they should have named one of his offensive assistants, 0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.840 whether it was Lafour or whoever else, as the court 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.000 and keep the same system in place. Instead, they went 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.360 to Sarkaesian and had start come in and try to 0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.320 run a system that was not his, and you missed 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.080 all the nuances of it that made them great. And 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.120 so that's also planning, and it is when you do 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:18.200 have success, have been developed talent under your coordinator, so 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.520 that when you lose a coordinator, you keep the guy 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.600 underneath him that could run the same system that you're 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.000 having success with. And the same on the defense. They 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:32.680 never got the defense right, and because he brought in 0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.920 other people who were not running his system and trying 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.760 to meld to his system even though they didn't own it. 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.080 And you can make the argument the same mistake that 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.240 maybe Gus Bradley made here. Instead of him being defensive 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.520 coordinator and putting his system they believed, and he brought 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.600 Bob Babbagin who was a Tampa to cover to guy 0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.000 and tried to have him run the system that Gus 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.080 wanted to put in. And so those are all new 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:57.000 launces that help you be successful as you go forward. 0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:00.480 So it's getting the player right and the right players 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:04.040 quarterback first, I'm a believer inside out offensive defensive lines 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:08.520 after that, but it's also getting the right staff with coordinator, 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.840 head coach coordinators, and then building the system based on 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.200 what they want to be, meaning that if you want 0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:18.360 to be a cover three like Gus Bradley, you better 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.240 get long corners, you can run in a in a 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:21.720 free state, you can cover a lot of ground in 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.920 the middle of the field, and a will linebacker that 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:25.880 can run with the over routes. I mean, there's certain things. 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:27.680 You better have a pass rusher. If you want to 0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.000 be that old Tampa two, you better have a three 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.320 technique that can be disrupted. I mean, there's certain aspects 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.360 of the of the thing that you have to build for. 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.080 It's not just drafting and this is a fantasy football 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.160 We're just going to start picking players. You have to 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.680 build to what your conviction is and you have to 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.320 match up with your head coach. And then the long 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.840 term sustainability is having the quarterback, which we agree upon, 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.440 but also as you have success, to start losing coordinators 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.160 to other head coaches everything else, that you have someone 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.320 to fill them with to keep the system in place. 0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.680 You know, Tony, we asked this question yesterday. How many 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:06.200 franchises right now feel comfortable with their quarterback for the 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:12.000 next four years? Okay, let's go through the division. UM. 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.520 I would say in the South, you have the Titans 0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:19.960 in the Texans both feel comfortable with UM and the 0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.360 let's say the a f C North Pittsburgh's not. Ben's 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.080 not gonna be there for four years. UM, Cincinnati does, 0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.800 as long as Borrow goes back from his knee injury. Does. 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:34.440 UM Cleveland, I don't. I don't think they don't. In 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.360 Baltimore to this year, I'm not gonna say no, but boy, 0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.080 he's taking a step backwards. But let's get Baltimore because 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:45.520 based on their system four UM in the East Buffalo, yes, 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:49.440 that's five. UM Jets, No, I don't think Miami does. 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.840 They don't know yet, so it's too early. And UM 0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:58.440 New England, who's uh? In New England? No? Why West 0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:05.760 Mahomes yes? Six? Herbert yes seven h Denver doesn't know. 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.320 Denver doesn't know. And what about the Raiders? Is Derek 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.800 Carr the answer for four more years? Well it's a 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:17.640 it's a question mark. So no, that's the FC in 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.880 the Let's go NFC South New Orleans, No Carolina? No, 0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:26.400 UM Atlanta four years from now? I don't think so. UM? 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:33.040 And then uh yea Okay, in the way in the West, Yes, 0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:37.400 even though he played terrible. Yes, baby, I'm gonna give 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:44.240 it to him. Kyle Murray, yes, Um, Russells, Russell Wilson, Yes. 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.680 San Francis, Francisco. No, No, that's now we're up to 0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:56.840 what is that? Eleven? Eleven? Okay? The NFC East Um No, no, 0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:06.520 Went No, No, Dallas, yes, Prescott, Prescott. Yes, So that's twelve. 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:10.560 The NFC North Green Bay, where Roger's been playing in 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.239 four years. I don't think he wants to play that long. 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:16.279 He told me once he wants to play to his 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:29.160 forty at least. 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Just 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.759 a steady football player. That's you know, um, you know, 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.440 always gonna you know, get you a positive yards, always 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.279 gonna give you unbelievable effort. I think that's the one 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.239 thing that people I think miss a little bit with him. 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.560 It's just, you know, the effort, and I think he's 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.400 he's showing that, you know, he's a really good football player, 0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:18.840 and you know, we're happy we have him. And you know, 0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.720 I think we had about twenty something touches today, uh, 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.239 you know for him. Um so I think you know 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.640 that's that's a that's a pretty good load. Twenty two 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.960 carries five catches for James Robinson, Jaguars running back. That's 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:36.680 the Jaguars head coach after the game yesterday. Robinson now 0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.040 over eleven hundred scrimmage yards for the season. What a 0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.520 year it's been for the undrafted rookie out of Illinois State. 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.800 Welcome back to Jaguars, Happy our j P, Shadrick, Tony Boselli, 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.799 and Pete Brisco The day after the Jaguars lost to 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:53.160 the Cleveland Browns. I know they're one in nine, guys, 0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.439 but where would they be without James Robinson Right now? 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.440 One in nine, they're actually one in I don't want 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:06.920 to excuse me, I've lost. It's amazing to think that 0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:09.520 there were certain people that thought they could actually win 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.640 eleven games. That's right, and one of them is on 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:23.840 this show. What happened? It happened? Actually have Okay, But 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.880 here's the thing, JP, you've been we've been doing this 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:31.320 a lot of years now, UM and UM. Usually it 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.840 should have been a warning signed everyone, like the lights 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.520 should have gone, like the red lights, flashing lights, because 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.960 usually what do I have them? Fifteen and one, sixteen 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.520 and oh, fourteen and two. The fact that I only 0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.279 have them winning eleven games should have been an alarms 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.959 going off, like, oh, this is trying to you're trying 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.000 to get out from underneath that, right, I'm not trying 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:53.239 to get I'm not trying to get off anything. You 0:40:54.120 --> 0:41:01.759 can't unush that button? Did you lock it? I did not? 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.319 And what did I lock? I locked something last week? 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:09.320 And I think it went rotten. You didn't lock something? 0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.160 What did you lock? I can't remember. I can't remember either, 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.160 you guys remember what I locked it? I think it 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.200 had to be rotten because my picks were terrible. That 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.080 was two weeks ago. I think that they're usually so 0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.560 bad the locks on this show that I just I 0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.120 quit counting anymore. It was so memorable that we forgot 0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.359 about it. Yes, well, we'll never forget about eleven. How 0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:32.600 could you could you? I mean, my gosh, there's not 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.120 one thing that nobody could look at this team and 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:36.960 think they would. I mean, I feel like an idiot 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.360 thinking they would do in five games. Oh, Pete, you 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:43.880 locked the Jets? Is what you locked? Is what the 0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:47.640 Jet You're gonna win? That's yeah, that was a bad pick. 0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.280 That was a terrible You know, I could the quarterback 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.360 from us see you thrown interceptions. He's not. He hasn't. 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:58.319 He hasn't improved at all. Yeah, he played it was 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.840 it was ten three, they were the red zone and 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:04.560 he threw a terrible interception. I mean, it's just terrible. 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.759 Let's touch on defense here for the Jags yesterday, obviously 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:13.200 walking wounded going into the game, barely walking at all. 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.080 A lot of guys on I are some other players 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:20.440 out again yesterday and Von Hamilton's went down during the game. 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.600 Dug Maroon said today it's not as bad as they 0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.000 thought last night, which is good news. He's still going 0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:29.920 to go on I R. But it's positive and more 0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.520 positive than it was yesterday, which is the good sign. 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.720 On defense, close them down for the rest of the season, 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.440 get him ready for next year. You'd be done with him. 0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:40.440 I mean, if there's any chance that he's not all 0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:46.359 the way back, and then how about Josh Allen If 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:50.320 they're not, if they're not mean like in a normal season, 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:53.319 when you're pushing for a playoff of guy's percent, he's 0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:57.200 probably gonna try and play. In this scenario, give him, 0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.520 give him the out, you know, dude, like they're doing 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:01.960 in college. I'm done, I'm getting ready for the NFL. 0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.520 Get ready for next year. Well, I mean, there's just 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:08.200 it's risk reward. If a guy is not acent, why 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.640 would you bring them back at this point? Right? But 0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.520 don't you don't you agree there are been times, there 0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.040 were times in your career when you were you played, 0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:19.799 there were times, yeah, and that's what I mean because 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:23.200 it was it was it was meaningful. There's nothing meaningful 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.200 about the next five games. So shut them down if 0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.319 they're not all the way back, and worry about next year. 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.600 So this is how I would do it. I think 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.960 it's a risk reward thing. I would look at him 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:34.880 because no one's ever you know that as well as 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.279 I do. I would look at it and say, okay, 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:42.200 based on his health, Von Hamilton's or Josh Allen's is 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.640 the upside and the only upside is for them to 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:49.080 get reps and to improve his players. Is the upside 0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.960 worth the risk of re injuring whatever injury they have 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.319 that will impact their off season when we're hoping they 0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.520 get better because thinking, because what you're trying to do 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.799 at this point with these young eyes is get them 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.319 better for next year, and you have to weigh it. 0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:05.799 Is it better to play them right now and those 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.480 reps are meaningful to get them experience and everything like that, 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:10.919 or would it be better off making sure they're healthy 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:12.960 so we get a really good offseason with these young 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:17.319 players so they're ready for next year. And that's the 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.080 equation you're running, Pete. That's all you're doing, right. I agree, 0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.880 But but again, um, the reps might not be as 0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.520 important if they're not. No, I agree, Just weigh it 0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.680 out though, I mean, yeah, I mean, like I'll give 0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.720 it if I don't even know what. Let's say, Devon 0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:38.680 Hamilton's injuries a grade one mc L. Typically if you 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.759 if you're if it's the playoffs, you're taping it up 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.040 and figure out how to get out there. If you 0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.239 can do anything, you're gonna play. And but you're saying 0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:48.359 to be healthy, like back, it's a two week injury, 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.239 all right, I'm probably gonna bring him back for the 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:52.440 last three monks of the game because it's, you know, 0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:56.799 a minor injury. If it's a Grade two and it's 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:58.920 four to six weeks and I can push them to 0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.080 be there for the last week of the season, is 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.560 that really worth it? I don't think so. No, not 0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.200 particularly not if they're sitting out four games. He was 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.479 starting to play really well, So I think I think 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.879 he's a fine I think they have a good player there. 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.840 Wn't you agree. I mean, he has a chance to 0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.440 be really good in the interior. I think he's a 0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:21.000 starting caliber first and second down one technique, So he's 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:25.919 a he's a regular personnel one technique that's starting caliber. Yes, 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.040 is he gonna um? Is he a three technique? Or 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:32.279 I want out there in passing situations that's gonna have 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.080 to pressure the quarterback? Probably not. Can you push the 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.799 pocket at times? Yes, But I mean, but his skill 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:42.960 set is run defender, and so maybe big big nickel 0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.000 personnel when the team wants to run out of that 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:47.640 that inside outside zone. Maybe he's playing on those downs, 0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:50.239 but that's what his skill set is at this point 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.080 in his career, is not the rest of pastor remind 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.520 you of anybody that you played against in your career 0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:59.919 or playing, or you've seen or watched. I mean, yeah, 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.480 every one technique that you ever well does he remind 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.560 you of? Like those remember there the Pat Williams. Now, 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.520 he's not that, he's not that big. Those dudes were 0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:13.560 giants into it. And by the way, you remember they 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:15.520 played a different system. They played the three four notes, 0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.319 so they are zero knows, head up a bunch every 0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.640 once in a while with tilt on a on a 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:25.480 on a shade. Pat Winds was a big man. That 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.520 was a big man. Sometimes he was too big. He liked, 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.279 he liked. But yeah, so and it's still early. And 0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:33.520 this is the other thing we have. You have to 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:37.920 be careful. Don't overvalue your young players like just because 0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.319 and this is what happens on bad teams. Sometimes you 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.440 overvalue because you don't have that much talent. 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And then if the 0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:23.239 show wins. I accept this on or on behalf of everybody, 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:30.480 even though I nominated myself as the solo guy. Whatever, man, whatever, 0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:33.239 it's good like when gets in the Hall, he's gonna 0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:38.000 forget about everyone's right, there's no doubt who people who. 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:41.080 You know, Mike Fani used to call me Pete price 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.680 Go because I was all about I when Tony gets 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:48.279 his Hall of Fame. No, he's gonna be but cll I, 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:52.680 you know that's not true. I know so what But 0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:57.279 it was true that I'm price Goo. Yes, were you admitted? Yeah, 0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:01.960 you admitaged everybody. It's good. You have not rubbed off 0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:05.840 of me that far yet. JP. You got me to 0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:08.000 talk about the draft earlier this year, So that was 0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:12.640 a big staff you you got. You need to admit that. 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:16.120 You know, at some point, playing for draft position is 0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:19.160 smarter than winning games. So you got me there. I 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:21.239 got you to admit you're a member of the media. Now, 0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.279 well that was last year. Yeah, I brought you down. 0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:28.000 I broke you down. It's a process. It's a process 0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.279 I'll never get to if it's good for me. It's 0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:34.160 good for me, though I will never get that far. Oh, 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.480 I don't know about that's that's that's a bridge too 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:39.239 far for me. Let me ask this. Let me ask 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:43.240 you this. If you're waiting at the airport for luggage 0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:48.080 to come out, and you're would you you see somebody 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:51.880 whose luggage doesn't come out? Aren't you better and happier 0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:55.279 because yours came out rather than theirs instead of you 0:53:55.360 --> 0:54:03.160 being in their positions? What? Yes? Just say yes, Tony? Yes? 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:06.080 Does that? What does that have to do with anything, Pete? 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:10.719 Because it's always look you, somebody's misfortune is bad for them, 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:16.040 but you'd rather be them than you. Okay, when I 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.799 got COVID, I wasn't wishing you were laying in that. 0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:22.760 I see you. It's not me that's got aggressive. Quick 0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:36.040 happened there? Oh my goodness, went there? Evin? When you 0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:40.040 heard I was now because I got it? Are you 0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:41.200 telling me that when I was in the I c 0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:47.040 you having COVID? You're like, yes, not, But why you 0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:49.480 were in that? I see you? You must have wished 0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:51.160 something on me, because I got it. Like a couple 0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:55.280 of months later, you did something. We just escalated quickly 0:54:55.320 --> 0:54:59.919 from luggage to COVID. What in the world happened, Pete? Yeah, 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:04.760 I didn't do it. I know the whole piece example 0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:06.720 was a dumb one. Is the point I was making 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:10.200 JP understood it that went right over your head is 0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:13.320 I'd rather not stand there for twenty five minutes waiting 0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:15.560 on my luggage. I'd rather get my luggage first and 0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:17.840 get the hell out of there. 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We're happy everyone else's stuck there and 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.879 you're gone. WHOA, I mean, I'd be happy. It's it's 0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.799 much better for me if my stuff got camp came 0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:09.320 out and they were stuck rather than if I'm stuck 0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:11.680 and their stuff came out. That's all I'm saying. That's true, 0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.879 it's all, it's all factual. Let's think about it over 0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:21.520 this time. Yes, so you're saying, would you rather in 0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:25.240 the super Bowl play good and lose the super Bowl 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:29.480 or play poorly and win the Super Bowl? Do I 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:33.480 get paid? If I play well? You get paid. That 0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:36.720 you have a contract, get paid. 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And the 1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:22.920 only thing I have to rely on to make sure 1:01:22.920 --> 1:01:25.800 I can walk around and be a good example is 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:28.800 to know that I bought my aspon, that I've done 1:01:28.960 --> 1:01:33.720 everything I possibly can to make sure that I am 1:01:33.760 --> 1:01:36.280 doing my job at the best of my ability to 1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:40.240 try to win football games. Head coach Doug Maron on 1:01:40.280 --> 1:01:44.680 a conference call today discussing the remainder of the season 1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:46.880 five games to go and welcome into the second hour 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:52.280 of Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Vaselli. 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:55.560 The big news of the day the change at general 1:01:55.560 --> 1:01:59.920 manager Dave Caldwell out. About five thirty yesterday, the announcement 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:03.240 came down from Jaguars owner shot Con that Dave Caldwell 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:05.680 had been relieved of his duties. They'll get a new 1:02:05.720 --> 1:02:09.680 general manager and twenty twenty one, Trent and Bulky will 1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:13.440 be the interim GM. The director of player personnel for 1:02:13.480 --> 1:02:17.240 the Jaguars currently, he was hired here in January. Also, 1:02:17.320 --> 1:02:19.840 shot Kan said that head coach jug Maron and the 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:25.760 staff are safe through the twenty season. So that answer 1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:29.560 that you just heard from Maron today was about how 1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:32.720 the approach things down the stretch the final five games 1:02:32.720 --> 1:02:35.200 of the season. Of course, yesterday the Jaguars dropped their 1:02:35.240 --> 1:02:39.840 tenth consecutive game, a single season franchise record, twenty five 1:02:39.880 --> 1:02:43.040 as the final score, and the Cleveland Browns got the victory. 1:02:43.960 --> 1:02:47.680 Pete Prescot Tony Boselli back with us now, and you know, 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:50.880 that's that's what it is, new GM coming head coach 1:02:51.160 --> 1:02:54.040 that has five games to go in this season, and 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:56.360 then who knows from there. That's a lot of change 1:02:56.360 --> 1:03:00.720 coming up, but the change has begun. Tony. Yeah, I 1:03:00.720 --> 1:03:04.320 mean I think we all knew where it was coming. Um, 1:03:04.640 --> 1:03:08.200 it's a tough position for Doug to be in UM 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:10.400 because you're you know, you're tied in the GM. You're 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:12.360 trying to build this together. I think a lot of 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:15.480 people were surprised that they got the year after last 1:03:15.560 --> 1:03:17.800 year that they were retained, and they were I think 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:20.360 they were hoping they could get some things turned around. 1:03:20.480 --> 1:03:22.080 Really tough year to do it. If you look at 1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:24.360 COVID and the guys off the out and everything else, 1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:26.360 UM and and at the end of the day, they 1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:29.120 just didn't get the quarterback right. They thought that mits 1:03:29.160 --> 1:03:31.600 you could be the guy. I think everyone pretty much 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:34.240 now understands that you need to go make up, go 1:03:34.360 --> 1:03:38.240 find a quarterback to be the franchise guy. So um, 1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:40.680 it's never good. It's never fun. And I think it's 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:43.760 hard also on Doug of the staff now because you 1:03:43.800 --> 1:03:46.320 don't want to articulate it or say it out loud. 1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:49.080 But I think they know what's coming. I mean Doug, 1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:50.680 I mean he said it as much he goes. I've 1:03:50.680 --> 1:03:52.680 been in this business a long time. It's never fun. 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:54.560 It's not good. And now you just have to be 1:03:54.560 --> 1:03:56.640 a professional, and I think you will and you have 1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:57.960 to play it out and you gotta get guys to 1:03:58.000 --> 1:04:00.760 play hard and you're always audition for your next job. 1:04:01.600 --> 1:04:04.040 Um and uh, and I think that's how you have 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:07.000 to approach it, whether you're a coach or a player. Uh. 1:04:07.080 --> 1:04:09.000 You know, whatever you do is gonna be on tape 1:04:09.560 --> 1:04:12.840 and it's going to stick with you. And we are 1:04:12.840 --> 1:04:14.360 a part of your story. So I think that's what 1:04:14.440 --> 1:04:16.840 you go out and play with pride and and coach 1:04:16.880 --> 1:04:18.840 with pride and coach hard because that's who they are. 1:04:19.200 --> 1:04:21.800 I think they've shown that this year. And uh. And 1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:24.160 then as far as the GM, now it's time to 1:04:24.440 --> 1:04:27.160 start a search and go find out who who's who's 1:04:27.160 --> 1:04:30.000 gonna lead the organization on the football side for the 1:04:30.040 --> 1:04:35.520 Jackson Jaguars. Yeah. And that's the timing again because of 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:38.080 all the circumstances around the league. If there had probably 1:04:38.120 --> 1:04:42.240 been no firings and general manners until now, then they 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:44.200 probably would have waited until after the season. But I 1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:46.760 think that's fed up the time table and and right team. 1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:51.600 So I mean, look, this team needs change, it needs overhaul. 1:04:51.600 --> 1:04:54.840 It needs to change from the top all the way down. 1:04:55.160 --> 1:04:57.240 And and I think the coaching staff is going to 1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:00.160 change as well. And and uh, it's the right thing 1:05:00.200 --> 1:05:02.120 to do. It's time, and I think the fans are 1:05:02.400 --> 1:05:04.200 and I'm sure JP when we get to some of 1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:07.280 their comments, they'll agree. By the way, I was trying 1:05:07.320 --> 1:05:10.760 to put together to see if we could get a 1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:13.720 roster full of X Jaguars who were still playing, and 1:05:13.760 --> 1:05:16.440 see if we could fill a full two team and 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:19.160 see how they would do metched up against this team. 1:05:19.160 --> 1:05:21.280 They and and I'm having a hard time with some 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:24.240 offensive lineman. Maybe you guys can remember somebody. If you did, 1:05:25.000 --> 1:05:34.680 they'd be they'd probably be a four or five point favorite. 1:05:34.680 --> 1:05:40.720 The defensive front Tony Tyson, Campbell and Cockway and and 1:05:41.000 --> 1:05:45.880 Um and Clay and then Fowler. You could play them 1:05:45.880 --> 1:05:47.800 wherever because I didn't have a lot of linebackers, but 1:05:48.200 --> 1:05:52.560 secondary would be boy A Ramsey, Mike Hilton, uh Gibson 1:05:52.600 --> 1:05:59.120 and Ronnie Harrison. Wow, now I can't remember. Now, there 1:05:59.160 --> 1:06:03.240 aren't a lot of linebackers that could play next to Um. 1:06:03.280 --> 1:06:05.320 You know, I don't think you have a middle linebacker 1:06:05.360 --> 1:06:07.080 if I can remember, I couldn't remember. I'm just doing 1:06:07.080 --> 1:06:09.880 this off the top of my head. But you'd have 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:16.560 either Folds probably Folds throwing to Alan Robinson, Alan Lazard 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:19.520 and Mercedes Lewis would be a tight end, and then 1:06:19.520 --> 1:06:23.360 the offensive line is troubling, you'd have Sam Young remember him, 1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:27.960 he was there for a while. Beat them, beat them, 1:06:28.040 --> 1:06:30.480 and with new Ski. There's three. I couldn't think of 1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:31.960 two other ones, but I'm sure that I was just 1:06:32.000 --> 1:06:36.120 doing this on the fly. Was Austin Pastor right now? 1:06:36.200 --> 1:06:43.880 Is he around Austin Pastor? No? But I'm sure we 1:06:43.880 --> 1:06:50.040 can find two. Honestly. What a lot of the point 1:06:50.080 --> 1:06:52.400 is there's a lot of really good ex Jaguar players 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:54.680 for whatever reason, who are no longer on the roster. 1:06:55.760 --> 1:06:58.600 And granted I thought the Fowler was a bit of 1:06:58.600 --> 1:07:01.680 a problem when he was there. We know of that. Um, 1:07:01.720 --> 1:07:03.080 he never lived up to the hype when he was 1:07:03.080 --> 1:07:05.720 a Jackuvial, good football player, not a great pass rushure. 1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:07.640 It was never worked. You know, he got hurt. Remember 1:07:07.680 --> 1:07:09.840 he first training camp, he got her first practice, he 1:07:09.880 --> 1:07:11.720 got hurt, right, and remember he had some all field 1:07:11.720 --> 1:07:16.760 stuff here as well, correct, uh, Jalen Ramsey, that was 1:07:16.800 --> 1:07:19.760 a deal they made. Should they have made it? Would 1:07:19.800 --> 1:07:21.280 you have made it? Do you still look back on 1:07:21.320 --> 1:07:24.320 it and say it was a good deal? Calais Campbell 1:07:25.040 --> 1:07:27.880 because of money, Well, this team had money and they 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:29.920 didn't want to spend money on an older guy. I 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:32.000 get it, and cock Way they didn't want to pay 1:07:32.040 --> 1:07:34.440 him the money. But again it goes back to what 1:07:34.480 --> 1:07:38.360 I'm saying. There are players, good football players out there 1:07:38.520 --> 1:07:40.479 that would have could have been on this team, and 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:42.720 they chose to go in a different direction. And now 1:07:42.800 --> 1:07:45.520 this is why it's happening. And there are reasons why, Tony. 1:07:45.560 --> 1:07:50.240 I'm not saying there aren't reasons and warn't warranted reasons. Yeah, 1:07:50.280 --> 1:07:52.600 I think it's easy to go after the fact and say, 1:07:52.800 --> 1:07:57.360 you know, but you know this person could have been 1:07:57.480 --> 1:07:59.480 or not or should have been, or you know, wrong 1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:02.360 direction was taken with that individual. But I think each 1:08:02.360 --> 1:08:04.400 of them has their own story too that you could 1:08:04.440 --> 1:08:07.600 go and dissect. And probably some are probably clear that 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:09.560 maybe the move shouldn't have been, but some I think 1:08:09.560 --> 1:08:12.880 we'd still end up saying, um to let them go 1:08:12.920 --> 1:08:15.080 in And you know a lot of them are right 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:17.519 moves when they made the move. If you're giving me 1:08:17.600 --> 1:08:20.080 two ones and something, an extra pit another pick for 1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:23.000 Jalen Ramsey, I'm trading him to do it because he 1:08:23.120 --> 1:08:25.960 was not It wasn't this, he wasn't playing like a 1:08:26.080 --> 1:08:28.280 number one and number one corner when he was there 1:08:28.320 --> 1:08:30.800 at the end, he just wasn't good player. But did he, 1:08:31.080 --> 1:08:32.559 let me ask you this, did you ever think he 1:08:32.640 --> 1:08:34.320 was playing up to what he should have been for 1:08:34.360 --> 1:08:41.719 that team? Ever? Ever? For the end in the last 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:46.000 couple I mean, well, it's uh nineteen, you mean, I mean, 1:08:46.240 --> 1:08:48.320 but even nineteen. I mean, look at the game he 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:52.040 had where the outburst, where the outburst happened against the 1:08:52.040 --> 1:08:55.479 Houston Texans. He had a great game, was playing against Theodore, 1:08:56.200 --> 1:08:58.320 but he always messed up well against Hopkins. That was 1:08:58.400 --> 1:09:01.559 one where he always played. I mean, he's by the way. 1:09:03.000 --> 1:09:06.280 The problem with that situation, Pete, wasn't just that moment. 1:09:06.800 --> 1:09:09.000 There was obviously a lot of build up to get 1:09:09.080 --> 1:09:11.760 to that moment. And what you have to do is 1:09:11.800 --> 1:09:15.000 go back and analyze it. Could the organization done anything 1:09:15.200 --> 1:09:18.519 better to make sure the best player you had drafted 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:22.280 in umpteen years was happy and wanted to be a 1:09:22.320 --> 1:09:25.519 part of your organization. And so at the end, yes, 1:09:25.640 --> 1:09:28.240 I would have traded and for the two twos. My question, 1:09:29.520 --> 1:09:32.120 and as close as we are the organization, I'm not 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:35.760 pretty to everything. My question would be, did you die 1:09:35.760 --> 1:09:37.640 st I think this is a critical it's you know, 1:09:37.680 --> 1:09:40.040 it's when changes happened, or you go through a process, 1:09:40.160 --> 1:09:42.439 or you go after a project, or you go do something. 1:09:42.720 --> 1:09:45.840 I think it's self evaluation and kind of doing a retrospect. 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:48.040 It was important what happened that got you to that 1:09:48.120 --> 1:09:50.680 point where your best player doesn't want to be around you. 1:09:52.120 --> 1:09:54.000 By the way, we could coax puzz loves Me out 1:09:54.040 --> 1:09:56.320 of retirement and make him the line there that we're 1:09:56.360 --> 1:10:01.800 missing that outside of doing the silly exercise, because it's 1:10:01.840 --> 1:10:03.560 not a silly exercise. He just goes to show you 1:10:03.560 --> 1:10:05.160 there's a lot of talent still playing in the league 1:10:05.200 --> 1:10:07.760 that's not there now, and it's been and it's been 1:10:07.800 --> 1:10:12.880 here and it's left for different reasons. Yes, Okay, starters 1:10:13.160 --> 1:10:17.599 starters on other teams that would be starting here too, well, 1:10:17.640 --> 1:10:22.439 I mean maybe yeah, maybe. I mean they traded Ronnie Harrison, okay, 1:10:22.439 --> 1:10:26.000 which one of the guys that I just training Ronnie Harrison, 1:10:26.240 --> 1:10:31.120 because he wasn't playing at the starting caliber football. Correct, 1:10:31.160 --> 1:10:35.000 that's why he played one staff yesterday, by the way, Okay, 1:10:35.800 --> 1:10:39.160 aside from Harrison, which one of these guys wouldn't be 1:10:39.200 --> 1:10:47.839 starting in Jacksonville right now, and go way, Llo starting 1:10:48.560 --> 1:10:53.439 Jackson BLeague Jackson. Now he's starting for the Eagles, or 1:10:53.439 --> 1:10:58.639 at least he's in the road. Uh. Dante Fowler starting, 1:10:59.479 --> 1:11:03.439 Uh boy a, he didn't play great at the end. 1:11:04.439 --> 1:11:09.320 Start right now this team right now? Are you gonna 1:11:09.320 --> 1:11:13.400 pay him that much money? So that's why let's stop, actually, 1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:15.000 cause I think it's a silly exercise because some of 1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:17.400 the reasons you're talking about, we're taking away the money 1:11:17.400 --> 1:11:22.519 out of the equation. Ramsey, you can't do that like Hilton, yes, 1:11:23.760 --> 1:11:26.640 uh and Gibson and Harrison. Look, I know I'm not 1:11:26.760 --> 1:11:28.680 enamor with either one of those two back there. But 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:32.559 so before we go to break and do the social calls, 1:11:32.600 --> 1:11:35.040 let's real quick we have like I think, three mena shape, 1:11:36.479 --> 1:11:38.320 how many jobs are gonna be open? And let's go 1:11:38.360 --> 1:11:42.120 to it really quick, because now, well, general managers, there's 1:11:42.200 --> 1:11:45.880 four right now, right, there's four open. Let's talk about 1:11:46.280 --> 1:11:49.719 head coaches. They're open. There are there have been three 1:11:49.720 --> 1:11:53.240 guys fired so far this year. Right, assuming that those 1:11:53.240 --> 1:11:55.160 three spots are either gonna be filled by the guys 1:11:55.200 --> 1:11:57.080 that are in them or they're gonna be which I 1:11:57.080 --> 1:11:59.559 don't think is the case, there's gonna be new blood 1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:02.920 in those three job, how many other jobs that Jack's 1:12:02.960 --> 1:12:05.639 will assigne for right now are gonna be open because 1:12:05.680 --> 1:12:08.880 that's what you're competing for, And in my opinion, there's 1:12:08.920 --> 1:12:10.920 a finite of people who you really want to go 1:12:11.000 --> 1:12:14.120 after to be your head coach, um, And so if 1:12:14.160 --> 1:12:16.040 you look at it and let's do it quickly, we'll 1:12:16.040 --> 1:12:17.920 go to AMC East. The Jets are gonna have a 1:12:17.960 --> 1:12:23.679 new a new guy. That's four, Jeff Um. That's it there, 1:12:24.760 --> 1:12:30.080 n the hold on. Let's do the f C North Pittsburgh, 1:12:30.080 --> 1:12:35.280 No Baltimore, No Cincinnati, no Cleveland. Okay, all right, let's 1:12:35.280 --> 1:12:39.280 go to the West a f C West Chargers. I 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:45.599 say yes. Maybe, I say yes, Um, Denver, I don't 1:12:45.640 --> 1:12:49.600 think so anymore. Maybe kan Cy No Oakland No, So 1:12:49.640 --> 1:12:55.040 you're five uh in the a f C South Tennessee, 1:12:55.040 --> 1:13:00.200 No Houston. We've already added uh indian A Jackson will 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:06.479 Let's just sue like, okay, you're at six, um, fine, yes, 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:11.240 but without Jackson's five five without Jacksonville set them aside, 1:13:11.240 --> 1:13:12.960 because we're going out. We might have to go after it. 1:13:13.200 --> 1:13:15.519 If you go on the NFC, Atlanta is already on 1:13:15.560 --> 1:13:19.680 the list. Carolina is a no, Tampa's a no. And 1:13:20.640 --> 1:13:23.439 NFC East. I think Philly is gonna have a new 1:13:23.439 --> 1:13:29.360 coach probably. Um, that gives you six Giants. No Redskins, 1:13:29.360 --> 1:13:34.680 no Dallas No. Um. In the North Chicago, I think 1:13:34.680 --> 1:13:40.640 we'll have a new coach at seven. Um, yeah, that's eight. No, 1:13:40.760 --> 1:13:43.120 I didn't put Detroit. Oh yeah, Detroit wasn't there. Sorry, 1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:51.160 And and um, that's it by Green Bay. Now you're 1:13:51.160 --> 1:13:55.680 at seven. And then the West Arizona, no, Seattle, no 1:13:55.880 --> 1:14:00.960 San Francisco, so you're at that's seven jobs. They're most 1:14:01.000 --> 1:14:05.439 likely going to be open besides the Jaguars. So now 1:14:05.520 --> 1:14:08.479 you have to start thinking if the Jaguars end up 1:14:08.520 --> 1:14:10.639 making a move, which we'll wait and see, I think 1:14:10.880 --> 1:14:13.320 you have the higher GM they're gonna make a move. 1:14:14.960 --> 1:14:17.479 Are there eight head coaches? You said you're enamored without 1:14:17.560 --> 1:14:21.360 or candidates that you're enamored without therapy. Uh. Here, I'll 1:14:21.360 --> 1:14:28.040 give you a couple. Arthur Smith Okay, that's interesting to 1:14:28.040 --> 1:14:35.320 me from Eric Enemy. Okay, Arthur smithsit Tennessee. By the way, 1:14:35.360 --> 1:14:42.920 thank you's done a great job. Robert Salem, Robert Robert 1:14:42.960 --> 1:14:44.599 salt is going to be a head coach somewhere next 1:14:44.640 --> 1:14:49.519 yearn um. I thought firing left, which maybe get interviewed, 1:14:49.520 --> 1:14:51.960 but now they afterwards happened this year. I think Brady's 1:14:52.000 --> 1:14:54.519 going to torpedo him and that's the end of that. Yeah, 1:14:54.520 --> 1:14:58.360 I don't think you will Joe Brady, Joe Brady. But 1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:01.559 in the league and you hire a thirty you know 1:15:01.760 --> 1:15:04.519 is I mean, that's the thing they're gonna He didn't 1:15:04.520 --> 1:15:08.679 get interviewed. What about Staley the defense daily, the defensive 1:15:08.680 --> 1:15:11.439 coordinator in uh with the charge with the Rams. It's 1:15:11.600 --> 1:15:17.040 a good year. He's done a really good job. I'm 1:15:17.080 --> 1:15:19.400 not saying he hasn't. I'm just saying I think this 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:21.320 is the first year coordinating at any level. He was 1:15:21.360 --> 1:15:24.519 a linebacker last year. Yeah, I mean that's you're you're 1:15:24.560 --> 1:15:29.720 you're making the point. There aren't a lot of it's like, 1:15:29.880 --> 1:15:32.040 it's not I mean you have to start looking around, 1:15:32.080 --> 1:15:38.439 started thinking, Okay, if there's eight jobs and Daniels good, 1:15:39.360 --> 1:15:40.680 it will be in the mix again. But he never 1:15:40.720 --> 1:15:43.400 takes the job. He always backs out right, Yeah, because 1:15:43.439 --> 1:15:45.160 he's gonna be he's waiting for Bill to give him 1:15:45.160 --> 1:15:48.320 the Patriot job. But McDaniels is a candidate. There's no 1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:56.200 question about what about what about Matt Eberflus, I know 1:15:56.400 --> 1:15:58.400 nothing about him outside of the India having a good 1:15:58.400 --> 1:16:01.040 defense this year. I've were good things for people. I 1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:04.200 talked about them, but no idea, all right, we can, 1:16:04.680 --> 1:16:06.960 we can. Contin You're right, there's gonna be seven or 1:16:06.960 --> 1:16:09.000 eight jobs and there might be five or six guys 1:16:09.000 --> 1:16:11.519 to fill them. Yeah, I'm just saying it's interesting. I mean, 1:16:11.560 --> 1:16:14.479 that's a. It's a. There's a And that's why you 1:16:14.520 --> 1:16:16.120 have to get in front of this thing. If you're 1:16:16.120 --> 1:16:18.559 the Jaguars, if that's the move you made, because it's 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:21.880 gonna be finite of the like, there's gonna be competitions 1:16:21.880 --> 1:16:23.320 for the guy you want. Now, then you have to 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:25.679 start thinking outside the box. Is there a college coach 1:16:25.720 --> 1:16:28.320 you'd go after? Is there a guy like would you 1:16:28.400 --> 1:16:30.679 go make a run at Brian Kelly? What about Urban 1:16:30.760 --> 1:16:33.680 Meyer or Urban Meyer? Would you make a run at 1:16:33.720 --> 1:16:36.160 one of those guys and empty the you know, checkbook? 1:16:36.400 --> 1:16:39.200 Would you go and say, hey, we need a quarterback guy, 1:16:39.240 --> 1:16:42.280 So maybe I'll go try to lure Lincoln Riley out 1:16:42.280 --> 1:16:44.640 of Oklahoma because they're drafting a young quarterback. I mean, 1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:45.920 those are the type of things you have to be 1:16:45.960 --> 1:16:49.000 thinking about because as far as assistance that are hot, 1:16:49.040 --> 1:16:54.400 which is always dangerous because you know those are gonna 1:16:54.400 --> 1:16:56.320 flame out and not have success because they can't make 1:16:56.320 --> 1:16:59.160 the jump from coordinator to head coach. And if we 1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:03.160 are struggling to name names right now, well it's an 1:17:03.160 --> 1:17:05.439 interesting dilemma. You find yourself and you have to figure 1:17:05.439 --> 1:17:07.320 out who's the next set coaches and it's to be 1:17:07.360 --> 1:17:09.640 competitive and you gotta get started. Dance afty. All right, 1:17:09.680 --> 1:17:12.880 let's take a time out. Social questions are coming up, 1:17:13.120 --> 1:17:16.320 and the mailbox is full. We're back in a moment. 1:17:16.320 --> 1:17:27.439 It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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Heading into Week 1:21:05.120 --> 1:21:09.040 thirteen of the NFL season, we'll go around the league 1:21:09.040 --> 1:21:12.599 coming up, including another change to the Steelers Ravens game 1:21:13.560 --> 1:21:15.880 that has just been announced moments ago. They're gonna play 1:21:15.880 --> 1:21:20.000 it on Wednesday now instead of tomorrow. This game was 1:21:20.120 --> 1:21:23.439 risiny scheduled on Thanksgiving. We'll get to that coming up. 1:21:23.520 --> 1:21:26.080 Let's get to the social questions. We put out the 1:21:26.120 --> 1:21:29.360 bat signal early in the day and here's the best 1:21:29.400 --> 1:21:33.000 we've come up with. And on Monday at Sam I 1:21:33.080 --> 1:21:37.120 Am Sheer thirteen. What's the benefit in getting rid of 1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:39.040 the g M a little early? And what can you 1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:40.760 tell us of the guy that's going to be the 1:21:40.800 --> 1:21:45.040 interim GM. Well, we've we've gone over why I mean 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:47.160 all show, I mean get in front of it. You 1:21:47.200 --> 1:21:49.720 know it's gonna be competitive. We just talked through the 1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:52.960 openings on the head coaching side that are gonna be there. 1:21:53.000 --> 1:21:55.439 We think there's seven day jobs will be open and 1:21:55.479 --> 1:21:58.400 so it's gonna be competitive there. And then the flip 1:21:58.439 --> 1:22:00.559 side of that is is you want to get the 1:22:00.560 --> 1:22:03.519 GM in place, in my opinion, so that guy's picking 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:07.200 your quarterback, um, and so to do that and to 1:22:07.240 --> 1:22:09.880 be ready to enter the sweep stakes for all these 1:22:09.880 --> 1:22:12.160 open jobs and trying to get your guy, you want 1:22:12.160 --> 1:22:13.559 to be ready right at the end of the season. 1:22:13.560 --> 1:22:16.479 So I think Seangahn wanted to get in front of it. 1:22:16.479 --> 1:22:19.600 It was the right thing this time. And again you're competing. 1:22:20.160 --> 1:22:22.599 You compete on the field, you're competing for for guys 1:22:22.680 --> 1:22:25.040 to come in and take over that job. And I 1:22:25.520 --> 1:22:29.200 think it's an attractive job. I'm biased, probably a little bit, 1:22:29.200 --> 1:22:31.479 but I do think it's an attractive job for a 1:22:31.479 --> 1:22:34.880 lot of reasons. No state income tax big part of it. Uh, 1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:38.360 you got a ton of draft picks, tons of draft picks, 1:22:38.840 --> 1:22:43.160 draft capital and cap room. You give somebody that they 1:22:43.200 --> 1:22:45.880 should be able to turn that team around. Particularly with 1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:48.280 one is number two overall pick. That means you're gonna 1:22:48.280 --> 1:22:50.479 get a quarterback that means you're gonna get one of 1:22:50.520 --> 1:22:54.360 the two top quarterbacks in the draft, and you hope 1:22:54.600 --> 1:22:57.000 that that guy ends up being a franchise guy for 1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:59.800 a long time. But if you can't turn it around 1:22:59.840 --> 1:23:03.639 with what they have available in terms of draft capital 1:23:03.760 --> 1:23:07.519 and tap room, then you got a problem. And by 1:23:07.560 --> 1:23:10.000 the way, you have an owner that's willing to spend 1:23:10.439 --> 1:23:13.000 and is somewhat patient to make this thing go the 1:23:13.080 --> 1:23:16.000 right way. Tony, Yeah, I know I argue that. And 1:23:16.000 --> 1:23:17.960 and the other part of the question was Trent Balky 1:23:18.040 --> 1:23:23.400 is the intern GM? Yeah he is. No, I'm saying 1:23:23.400 --> 1:23:26.760 he's not. If somebody asked if he's no, they were 1:23:26.760 --> 1:23:28.559 asking what type of guy is he? Who is he? 1:23:28.560 --> 1:23:31.040 He's a former guy GM for the forty Niners, was 1:23:31.040 --> 1:23:33.200 there when they made the Super Bowl runs, and now 1:23:33.240 --> 1:23:35.600 he's a personnel guy that was brought in this year. No, 1:23:35.640 --> 1:23:37.320 I don't think he's gonna get the job either. Pete 1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:42.200 our next question at Kane's nine oh four when the 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.280 new GM comes into coaching staff, interested in who Pete 1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:47.040 and Tony would like to see get the job. Give 1:23:47.080 --> 1:23:52.080 me Joseph Brady from Carolina hashtag Pete for general manager. Oh, 1:23:52.160 --> 1:23:54.920 that's a great hashtag, and Tony, don't worry, I'd hire 1:23:54.920 --> 1:24:04.439 you to be my assistant general matter wanted. You're a 1:24:04.520 --> 1:24:06.600 still honor you every every year with your Ring of 1:24:06.640 --> 1:24:13.960 Honor name up there, which is went through Joe Brady 1:24:14.000 --> 1:24:16.160 is gonna be a hot name. And I do I 1:24:16.200 --> 1:24:19.600 think you do have to consider. Um, you have to 1:24:19.640 --> 1:24:22.439 consider like you're you're gonna go draft a young quarterback 1:24:22.640 --> 1:24:25.679 and you need someone who can develop that young guy. 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:29.880 And so like I think, like to me, the safest 1:24:29.920 --> 1:24:31.439 guy for a head coach who I think it would 1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:33.120 be really good. And maybe I'm biased, but I think 1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:36.800 Robert Sala will be a unbelievable head coach in this 1:24:36.880 --> 1:24:39.120 league for a long time. And you saw the day 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:42.800 the commented uh uh Sherman came out and said about him, 1:24:42.840 --> 1:24:45.840 kind of giving him an endorsement as such a great coach. 1:24:46.040 --> 1:24:47.600 And you look what he's done with that defense or 1:24:47.680 --> 1:24:52.000 top five defense with every player known the mankind being out. Um. 1:24:52.000 --> 1:24:53.400 So I think he's really good head coach. But the 1:24:53.479 --> 1:24:56.640 question is, if you were to interview Robert Sala and 1:24:56.680 --> 1:24:58.719 you want him, like you're considering for the head coach, 1:24:58.920 --> 1:25:01.519 the most important question pete for him is tell me 1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:05.280 you're playing for a working quarterback. Tell me who's running 1:25:05.280 --> 1:25:08.120 your offense. Who's running the offense? And if you can't 1:25:08.120 --> 1:25:11.840 answer that, then this isn't the right job. Now. If 1:25:11.840 --> 1:25:14.240 you can, I love it. I think Robert, I'm with you. 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:15.840 I think Robert sal is going to be a hell 1:25:15.880 --> 1:25:19.320 of a head coach. But is the cell in Jacksonville 1:25:19.479 --> 1:25:25.240 tougher because he's from the gust Bradley tree. From a 1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:29.200 perception standpoint, yes, I think that's right, But he's really 1:25:29.240 --> 1:25:31.439 from the Shanahan tree. Now, if you look at it 1:25:31.439 --> 1:25:35.919 from a coordinary stand coordinator, coordinator, him being a coordinator, 1:25:36.520 --> 1:25:39.000 that's a and so if you look at from that standpoint, 1:25:39.000 --> 1:25:41.600 it's really Shanahan. I think he's learned a lot from that. 1:25:41.680 --> 1:25:45.160 You look at his defense, similar principles but completely different 1:25:45.160 --> 1:25:47.040 styles at the end of the day, and I think 1:25:47.080 --> 1:25:49.639 highly of Gus so he didn't work out his head coach. 1:25:49.680 --> 1:25:51.439 But you ask people in the league. One of the 1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:55.400 best coordinators in the NFL um from on the defense 1:25:55.439 --> 1:25:58.280 side of the ball. So I think from a perception standpoint, 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:01.080 Pete because that's what people know. And and in fairness 1:26:01.080 --> 1:26:04.160 to the fans of Jackson. They're not following the in 1:26:04.240 --> 1:26:07.000 detail and who's doing what and how they operate and 1:26:07.040 --> 1:26:09.960 what he does and how he's thought of amongst you know, 1:26:10.320 --> 1:26:12.479 owners and people around the league. And he is one 1:26:12.479 --> 1:26:17.080 of the higher regarded guys UH as far as young coaches. 1:26:17.120 --> 1:26:19.040 So I think he's he's getting a job this year. 1:26:19.080 --> 1:26:20.640 There's no doubt about that. I think he'll be a 1:26:20.640 --> 1:26:25.800 great head coach. But yes, the first question is, Um, 1:26:25.920 --> 1:26:28.920 what's your offensive plan? Because if you don't, because we're 1:26:28.960 --> 1:26:31.519 drafting a quarterback and you better have a detailed plan 1:26:31.640 --> 1:26:34.000 of who it is who's gonna be running that side 1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:36.040 of the ball. And then the second thing I think 1:26:36.040 --> 1:26:38.160 you'd have to have on this conversation both internally and 1:26:38.160 --> 1:26:40.599 maybe even with him if you wanted to interview him, 1:26:40.880 --> 1:26:42.840 is this the best job for you because of some 1:26:42.920 --> 1:26:44.920 the uphill battle you're gonna face from day one from 1:26:44.920 --> 1:26:48.840 a perception standpoint, Arthur Smith is another name. Um. Done 1:26:48.840 --> 1:26:50.840 a great job with Townehill, done a great job with 1:26:50.920 --> 1:26:55.400 that offense, the creative, big play guys, UH, And he 1:26:55.439 --> 1:26:57.759 would be a guy that he'd be on the radar, 1:26:58.000 --> 1:26:59.320 and I think he should be on the radar. You 1:26:59.360 --> 1:27:01.519 talk about thing a young quarterback. I think he could 1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:03.840 develop a young quarterback and would come up with a 1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:08.160 system to cater to that young quarterback. So plus, um, 1:27:08.280 --> 1:27:10.280 you might not have to pay him as much. He's 1:27:10.400 --> 1:27:17.000 rich already. His dad his dad. You can't say in 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:18.920 one breath we have an owner who doesn't care about 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:20.800 he'll spend the money. And then you say part of 1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:26.040 them that's a joke because he and I always say, 1:27:26.040 --> 1:27:28.280 and he's the richest assistant coach in the league because 1:27:28.280 --> 1:27:31.120 his dad owns fed X and and there is actually 1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:33.720 a link there. Back in the day when Jackson was 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:35.559 in the push to get the expansion team, we used 1:27:35.560 --> 1:27:38.679 to go to all these meetings. Well, his dad, fred Smith, 1:27:38.840 --> 1:27:42.160 was always trying to get a franchise from Memphis. So 1:27:42.240 --> 1:27:45.200 there's old time links there. And he's done a really 1:27:45.200 --> 1:27:48.519 good job. I give a lot of credit. There's no 1:27:48.520 --> 1:27:52.479 doubt about all. Right. Our next question from Samuel of Duval. 1:27:52.640 --> 1:27:56.040 For eight years, Tony defended Dave Caldwell's picks from Luke 1:27:56.120 --> 1:27:59.240 jokel to Zane Beatles. Is he finally going to apologize 1:27:59.280 --> 1:28:04.040 for the false new narrative now that he's gone. First 1:28:04.040 --> 1:28:06.280 of all, let let's be clear here. I never the 1:28:06.360 --> 1:28:08.680 Zame Beatles. I'm not sure he's not. He's not a 1:28:08.760 --> 1:28:12.160 draft pick. That he was a free agent signing, and 1:28:12.200 --> 1:28:15.599 I never defended him. If you go back to when 1:28:15.640 --> 1:28:18.679 we signed you, did you defended you defended Joo though, 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:21.600 So let's be clear. So the Joko again, let's go 1:28:21.680 --> 1:28:24.960 back and that let's not have revisionist history. One of 1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:27.839 the worst drafts in modern history for top ten picks, 1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:32.120 and so everyone Pete, you included at the time, I 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:35.559 thought that was the right pick, a number two, you 1:28:35.600 --> 1:28:38.320 could argue. I actually, if you go back to the 1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:40.479 actual time of the pick, I thought we should try 1:28:40.520 --> 1:28:42.720 to go get the answer because I thought he was better. 1:28:42.720 --> 1:28:44.760 But there's all kinds of questions around his age and 1:28:44.800 --> 1:28:46.960 maybe some injury history and everything else. And it's not 1:28:47.000 --> 1:28:49.639 like he's been great as a pro either better than Joko, 1:28:49.720 --> 1:28:52.120 but not a great pick. So that was a terrible draft. 1:28:52.320 --> 1:28:54.599 My defense of it was it was the first pick, 1:28:54.880 --> 1:28:57.160 there wasn't a lot of options, and now that he 1:28:57.280 --> 1:29:00.400 was our left tackle, he had athletic ability, but I said, 1:29:00.400 --> 1:29:02.600 for day he has to it stronger, more powerful, and 1:29:02.680 --> 1:29:05.599 so I don't think that I don't think Pete. Even 1:29:05.640 --> 1:29:08.719 looking back, you'd killed Dave Caldwell for that pick based 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:11.479 on that draft. No, but he could have taken Lane Johnson. 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:15.960 He went for fair enough. I'm not saying Johnson's obviously 1:29:16.000 --> 1:29:18.160 a better place. I I'd like Ziggy. I'll be Ozmath. 1:29:18.200 --> 1:29:20.120 I like Ziggy Ansa too, But there were there was 1:29:20.200 --> 1:29:22.920 there were concerns about his age, and as it play 1:29:22.960 --> 1:29:25.880 it out, he's broken down a little bit as he's 1:29:25.880 --> 1:29:28.800 got a little older. And by the way I think 1:29:28.800 --> 1:29:32.439 everyone understands, also, we've been doing this show for a 1:29:32.479 --> 1:29:35.599 long time. Which way am I going to leave Pete? 1:29:36.560 --> 1:29:39.240 As far as are this organization that I'm a part of, 1:29:39.280 --> 1:29:42.400 and I've been a part of sin if I have 1:29:42.439 --> 1:29:43.880 to lead, which way am I leading? I'm gonna lead 1:29:43.880 --> 1:29:45.360 to support the players and try to give them the 1:29:45.360 --> 1:29:47.400 benefit of the doubt more than I would because if 1:29:47.680 --> 1:29:49.840 you listen to me on Westwood One and what I 1:29:49.880 --> 1:29:52.120 say talk about teams I have nothing to do with. 1:29:52.200 --> 1:29:54.080 It's a different a little bit of a different story, 1:29:54.520 --> 1:29:57.479 and so um listen, I have represent visions history. I 1:29:57.560 --> 1:29:59.880 never said anything about Zame Beatles, and yes did I 1:30:00.000 --> 1:30:02.720 to friend Luke Joko One. I also felt sorry for 1:30:02.840 --> 1:30:06.479 Luke Luke joke, because I thought the comparisons that were 1:30:06.479 --> 1:30:10.400 put on him from day one were unfair. He did 1:30:10.479 --> 1:30:13.280 look like By the way, there are two guys on 1:30:13.320 --> 1:30:17.120 the Jaguars roster right now who were first round picks 1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:24.799 in that draft. M hmmm, who are you tell? Wow? 1:30:25.240 --> 1:30:32.479 E J. Hayden Yeah and Tyler Eiffert. Yeah, how about that? 1:30:33.600 --> 1:30:36.599 And the best player of that entire draft is DeAndre 1:30:36.680 --> 1:30:41.559 Hopkins for the first round. He was late first round, 1:30:41.600 --> 1:30:47.200 wasn't he correct? He went screwed that one up. Yes, 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:50.759 that's true, all right, So you're with a bad draft 1:30:51.080 --> 1:30:54.240 all the way around, and the top ten was really bad. 1:30:54.280 --> 1:30:56.599 Think about that. Tavon Austin went in the top ten 1:30:58.320 --> 1:31:00.760 and you're right though, By the way, a Johnson was 1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:03.400 the guy that everyone thought. I mean, now you take him, 1:31:03.439 --> 1:31:07.280 but back then he was a right tackle and very 1:31:07.320 --> 1:31:09.320 few people wanted to take him. That thought he was 1:31:09.360 --> 1:31:12.400 a franchise guy at the time, so they took a 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:15.719 spinning top instead. Said it was the wrong pick, There's 1:31:15.720 --> 1:31:19.200 no doubt about it. But remember the pass rusher in 1:31:19.200 --> 1:31:22.800 that draft ended up being a bus to Dion Jordan's. Absolutely, 1:31:22.800 --> 1:31:26.479 he got to spending multiple times, and uh so, yeah, 1:31:26.720 --> 1:31:29.000 that pick is there's no defending that pick. It was 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:31.960 a bad draft and Joco just wasn't very good, even 1:31:31.960 --> 1:31:36.760 though you defended it for four years. You had a 1:31:36.800 --> 1:31:39.759 soft spot for the kid, admitted I did. He played 1:31:39.800 --> 1:31:41.920 the same position I thought it was and pet you 1:31:41.960 --> 1:31:44.559 and I talked about this slightly on air, but a 1:31:44.560 --> 1:31:46.880 lot off there. I thought it was wildly unfair of 1:31:47.120 --> 1:31:50.040 the expectations and everything thrown on him because that's not 1:31:50.080 --> 1:31:52.519 who he was. That wasn't his makeup, and that was 1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:54.120 the one thing we said from day one. He did 1:31:54.120 --> 1:31:58.240 not have the tough guy mental makeup and when they 1:31:58.280 --> 1:32:00.720 drafted him, that's not who he is. And then they 1:32:00.760 --> 1:32:02.360 asked him to be something and it was a tough 1:32:02.400 --> 1:32:08.760 situation as he never asked you for help. Believe that 1:32:08.800 --> 1:32:11.599 would be We'll move along. Three more questions, next one 1:32:11.640 --> 1:32:15.240 from at Waka Areena from Data Argentina. Come on, Jaguar 1:32:15.280 --> 1:32:17.559 is happy hour on Monday is the best day. I 1:32:17.640 --> 1:32:20.400 see New England losing against the Jets on the seventeenth week, 1:32:20.439 --> 1:32:23.960 so the division rival doesn't get Lawrence Salutos. I don't 1:32:23.960 --> 1:32:27.240 see a question there, But what if he what if 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:31.040 Belichick rested every all it started and didn't start Cam 1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:35.080 just so the Jets couldn't get Trevor Lawrence. There be 1:32:35.120 --> 1:32:38.320 an investigation, right, I think the Commission would be involved 1:32:38.360 --> 1:32:44.519 at that point. Right, But I mean, oh, Garred Stidham 1:32:44.560 --> 1:32:46.320 is gonna start to get an evaluation on him for 1:32:46.320 --> 1:32:51.400 next year because you're not gonna bring Cam back. Bill. 1:32:51.680 --> 1:32:53.920 Bill likes winning too much. You wouldn't do it. What 1:32:54.000 --> 1:33:01.360 if his team is six and nine at the time. Yeah, 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:05.160 I don't know. Maybe that would be priceless. And the 1:33:05.320 --> 1:33:08.920 jack war Jackson would send like Belichick, like bouquets and 1:33:09.040 --> 1:33:12.439 candy and steaks and everything else. Does that happen? Listen, 1:33:12.439 --> 1:33:14.080 I'm not gonna be mad. I'm not gonna be mad 1:33:15.120 --> 1:33:18.280 to that much. Right now. I will not be mad. Alright. 1:33:18.320 --> 1:33:22.920 We got Sweeney and uh and um Trevor Lawrence together 1:33:22.920 --> 1:33:29.000 in Jackson. If you're David Daddle Sweeney, why would you 1:33:29.040 --> 1:33:31.880 leave Clemson where you make ten million dollars a year, 1:33:31.920 --> 1:33:34.080 you get every kid you want, and you run the 1:33:34.240 --> 1:33:37.600 entire place. Yeah? And does that? Does that? Does he 1:33:37.680 --> 1:33:40.439 appeal to the NFL player? Yeah? I don't know. I 1:33:40.479 --> 1:33:42.880 don't know him well enough to speak the ra you 1:33:42.920 --> 1:33:46.720 know the ras. Just well, people said the same thing 1:33:46.760 --> 1:33:50.400 about Pete Carroll. He did pretty good in Seattle, True, 1:33:50.760 --> 1:33:54.920 he didn't do so well in New England. Nope, let's 1:33:54.920 --> 1:33:57.920 move along at Devil x Jaguar. Hey, can I get 1:33:57.920 --> 1:34:01.040 a birthday shout out on the show today? Well? Happy birthday? 1:34:01.280 --> 1:34:04.840 Also you get a happy birthday from JP that matters 1:34:04.840 --> 1:34:06.599 more than me and Tony giving you one since he's 1:34:06.920 --> 1:34:11.639 solo on all these lists. Here's the rest of the question. Also, 1:34:11.800 --> 1:34:13.680 what will it take to get this team back to 1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:16.400 being relevant? Which quarterback in the draft fits the current 1:34:16.400 --> 1:34:18.360 players best and gives this team the best chance to 1:34:18.400 --> 1:34:22.599 win next year? Also, do you keep Gruden? I think 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:27.400 they cleaned. I think they clean house completely. Obviously. The 1:34:27.400 --> 1:34:29.240 guy who gives you the best chances the best quarterback, 1:34:29.240 --> 1:34:31.559 which is Trevor Lawrence. You don't know if you're gonna 1:34:31.560 --> 1:34:33.840 be able to be drafted number one, So then if 1:34:33.880 --> 1:34:35.599 that's not the if you don't get Trevor Lawrence, then 1:34:35.640 --> 1:34:41.400 you get you get Justin Field, who I haven't a 1:34:41.400 --> 1:34:43.920 couple of games. There's there's a lot of life. There's 1:34:43.960 --> 1:34:45.840 some concerns, but there's a lot of like he's not 1:34:45.880 --> 1:34:49.160 the slam He's not the slam dunk guy that that 1:34:52.320 --> 1:34:55.360 he sometimes locks on. I think just In and I 1:34:55.360 --> 1:34:56.880 haven't done a ton of work on him either. Just 1:34:56.920 --> 1:34:59.800 in the games I've watched, I think he's sometimes locks 1:34:59.840 --> 1:35:03.880 on a little bit. Yeah, a lot of work to 1:35:03.880 --> 1:35:06.720 be done. That's one thing. You know, whether you have 1:35:06.840 --> 1:35:08.640 the first pick or a second pick, you're gonna do 1:35:08.640 --> 1:35:11.920 a ton of work on both those guys. What would 1:35:11.920 --> 1:35:13.400 you give up the guard? What would you if you 1:35:13.720 --> 1:35:15.479 got the chance to go to one? What would you 1:35:15.520 --> 1:35:18.000 give up to go up there? Well, Bee, I think 1:35:18.040 --> 1:35:19.639 that goes back. You have to do all the work first, 1:35:19.640 --> 1:35:21.559 because you have to you have to kind of figure 1:35:21.600 --> 1:35:25.040 out what's the delta between Lawrence and Fields? How big 1:35:25.040 --> 1:35:28.320 a delta? Once you determine, once you do, Once you 1:35:28.400 --> 1:35:30.400 determine that, then that tells you how much you're willing 1:35:30.439 --> 1:35:32.720 to give up to move up? Right? Was there like 1:35:32.760 --> 1:35:35.000 the delta between Burrow and Herbert? A lot of people 1:35:35.080 --> 1:35:37.360 thought it was big, and it clearly it's not. It's 1:35:37.360 --> 1:35:39.759 not that big, and so you would have been foolish 1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:42.640 to trade up a bunch, Not that maybe brows a 1:35:42.680 --> 1:35:44.400 little bit better, but would you give up everything to 1:35:44.400 --> 1:35:47.879 move up. Put them all in the same Put Lawrence, 1:35:48.040 --> 1:35:50.840 Burrow and Herbert in the in the basket? Right now? 1:35:50.840 --> 1:35:58.880 Which one are you taking first rank? Well, you're you're 1:35:58.880 --> 1:36:03.679 assuming Herbert, I mean the Borrow is healthy, right, Um, 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:11.320 I would probably go Lawrence one, Burrow too, and Herbert three. Boy, 1:36:11.360 --> 1:36:13.040 but you you can make a case for going on. 1:36:15.640 --> 1:36:19.160 I almost went Laurence Herbert Burrow. I would go Lawrence 1:36:21.080 --> 1:36:25.679 Herbert Burrow. Now I might go Lawrence Burrow Herbert. That's 1:36:25.680 --> 1:36:29.760 what I just said, basically following me, thank you all right, 1:36:29.800 --> 1:36:32.200 you'll be an outstanding you like two or more than 1:36:32.240 --> 1:36:36.920 all of them anyway, so you'll be a good assistant. 1:36:38.080 --> 1:36:41.080 Our final question at oodory eleven, I wish the best 1:36:41.120 --> 1:36:43.080 for Dave Caldwell. He left the Jags with a lot 1:36:43.080 --> 1:36:46.160 of young, promising talent and high future draft picks. What 1:36:46.240 --> 1:36:48.439 are the rules on hiring a GM? Does the Rooney 1:36:48.479 --> 1:36:51.760 rule apply? And can they hire someone like Mike Borgonzi 1:36:52.040 --> 1:37:00.400 right away? The ru rule applies and a yeah, Michael 1:37:00.960 --> 1:37:04.120 is on the Chiefs right now, Um, working under Beach. 1:37:05.920 --> 1:37:07.720 And here's what this is what this is, this is 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:10.280 what we do this time of year. It's like, okay, 1:37:10.320 --> 1:37:14.559 which teams are successful and let's go just like you think, 1:37:14.800 --> 1:37:17.640 whoever just tweeted that has any idea who Mike is 1:37:17.840 --> 1:37:19.880 or what he does or what his skill set is, 1:37:20.280 --> 1:37:22.360 could he lead? Could he do? I mean, I mean, 1:37:22.479 --> 1:37:24.000 we have no idea. You don't. I mean you you 1:37:24.080 --> 1:37:26.120 cover it daily, you don't know. Now you can make 1:37:26.120 --> 1:37:27.880 some phone calls and find out and get a sense 1:37:27.880 --> 1:37:29.720 of it, but you're also gonna be talking to guys 1:37:29.800 --> 1:37:32.200 that know what we're gonna tell you. You You know, you know, 1:37:32.240 --> 1:37:34.640 probably on the more positive side. But this is what 1:37:34.720 --> 1:37:36.479 we knew, and this is why you see a lot 1:37:36.520 --> 1:37:39.960 of failures in my opinion, Pete, because we lit we 1:37:40.000 --> 1:37:42.720 stack rank these guys based on what they've done in 1:37:42.760 --> 1:37:45.120 a role that is not the role you're hiring them for. 1:37:45.680 --> 1:37:48.559 And because a team or a system has success, it's 1:37:48.600 --> 1:37:51.960 assumed the success. And we've see it at gms, and 1:37:52.000 --> 1:37:54.960 we see it at coaches and we've seen it. Just 1:37:54.960 --> 1:37:58.599 just list all the Belichick guys who fail and everyone 1:37:58.680 --> 1:38:01.120 hires them because they think they're Bill Belichick. And by 1:38:01.160 --> 1:38:03.240 the way, the biggest misquate those guys make is they 1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:06.160 try to be Bill Belichick, where they go. And so 1:38:06.240 --> 1:38:08.400 that's I mean, that's where you see a lot of 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:11.680 failures um in this league in the hiring your head 1:38:11.720 --> 1:38:15.040 coaches and gms, because it's hard. And I'm not putting, 1:38:15.040 --> 1:38:16.439 I'm not blaming. I'm not saying the owners don't know 1:38:16.479 --> 1:38:18.320 what they're doing right. But it's hard. It's a hard 1:38:18.360 --> 1:38:21.519 thing to evaluate somebody we're hiring to do a job 1:38:21.600 --> 1:38:24.559 that they've never done, and you're trying to discern do 1:38:24.640 --> 1:38:26.880 they have the skill set to lead, because that's the 1:38:26.920 --> 1:38:29.320 most important quality. I did send out some text to 1:38:29.360 --> 1:38:31.120 guys I know and checked on a few guys and 1:38:31.360 --> 1:38:33.880 I don't know Arthur Smith. I just don't. So I 1:38:33.880 --> 1:38:36.640 wanted to see what kind of guy was and the 1:38:36.680 --> 1:38:40.599 guys I ask he checked the box. You know, he 1:38:40.960 --> 1:38:42.720 works his butt off. He's a good football coach. He 1:38:42.760 --> 1:38:44.920 loves it, you know. And the guy who's entitled, like 1:38:45.080 --> 1:38:47.240 you know you're born into that, you might be entitled. 1:38:47.560 --> 1:38:50.680 None of that. Zero And Ryan Cowen is another name 1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:53.160 because they're gonna be package deals. Think about it that way, Tony, 1:38:53.200 --> 1:38:57.360 if you hired uh, you know, general manager, he's likely 1:38:57.400 --> 1:38:59.920 going to bring his own guy in. So Ryan caw 1:39:00.160 --> 1:39:02.479 the name that's been mentioned to me from Tennessee. If 1:39:02.479 --> 1:39:05.080 he was hired, Uh, he would hire like somebody like 1:39:05.200 --> 1:39:09.479 Arthur Smith or Adam Peters who's in San Francisco. 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Jaguar's Happy Hour is 1:42:57.760 --> 1:43:01.280 presented in part by dream Finders Home Homes that Fit 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:07.200 Your Lifestyle, Next Grill, Everyone's Invited and a Deco Visit 1:43:07.240 --> 1:43:13.360 a Deco USA dot Com Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour 1:43:13.479 --> 1:43:16.000 on this Monday and the day after the Jaguars lost 1:43:16.040 --> 1:43:18.840 to the Browns. J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony was 1:43:18.920 --> 1:43:22.639 Sally glad you're along with us. Let's this is normally 1:43:22.680 --> 1:43:24.640 the time of the show, we go through the a 1:43:24.760 --> 1:43:26.920 f C South Power rankings, but I'm gonna go ahead 1:43:26.920 --> 1:43:30.880 and make an executive decision that will just show the standings. 1:43:30.920 --> 1:43:35.320 That's what they are, right, there's that agreement, that's what 1:43:35.360 --> 1:43:39.960 they are. The Titans one in first place. The Titans. Titans, 1:43:41.000 --> 1:43:43.759 even though they spool, Yeah, they have a better record. 1:43:43.800 --> 1:43:45.479 Feat that usually how it works. Do you watch the 1:43:45.479 --> 1:43:49.240 game yesterday? They destroyed it. I mean come on, I mean, 1:43:49.320 --> 1:43:53.160 come on, come on see either you have it Tennessee, Indy, Houston, Jacksonville. 1:43:53.920 --> 1:43:56.040 I don't think that. Well, maybe the top could change 1:43:56.040 --> 1:43:59.040 who knows down the last month. But there you have it. 1:43:59.120 --> 1:44:01.120 That's the a f C South Power rankings. I saved 1:44:01.160 --> 1:44:03.559 us five minutes there. Let's get now to the not 1:44:03.720 --> 1:44:07.599 so powerful rankings for draft order. The Jaguars are officially 1:44:07.600 --> 1:44:11.280 eliminated from postseason contention. I know you're holding out, hope, Tony, 1:44:11.520 --> 1:44:13.920 so we can start talking draft a little more. Now, 1:44:14.760 --> 1:44:17.720 Let's start with twenty five, and that's where the Rams are. 1:44:17.760 --> 1:44:21.280 That's where the Jaguars would pick. Um. It's that would 1:44:21.280 --> 1:44:23.559 be the divisional round losers. Who knows, if they don't 1:44:23.600 --> 1:44:26.479 get in, it could be higher obviously. Uh. And then 1:44:26.560 --> 1:44:28.599 we'll go to the teams that are four and seven. 1:44:28.600 --> 1:44:31.559 That starts at twelve with the Denver Broncos at four 1:44:31.560 --> 1:44:35.160 and seven. The Texans would have the eleventh pick. They 1:44:35.200 --> 1:44:37.120 would give it to the Dolphins, though four and seven 1:44:37.120 --> 1:44:39.960 Falcons four and seven, would pick ten at number nine, 1:44:39.960 --> 1:44:44.160 the Detroit Lions and number eight, the Washington Football team 1:44:44.200 --> 1:44:47.320 at number seven, the Philadelphia Eagles at three, six and 1:44:47.360 --> 1:44:50.720 one at number six, the Carolina Panthers at four and 1:44:50.800 --> 1:44:54.160 eight at number five, at Los Angeles Chargers at three 1:44:54.200 --> 1:44:57.360 and eight number four, the Dallas Cowboys at three and 1:44:57.400 --> 1:45:02.440 eight number three, Cincinnati Bengals at two, eight and one 1:45:02.960 --> 1:45:05.479 number two, the Jaguars at one and ten with a 1:45:05.560 --> 1:45:10.120 five fifty five strength of schedule, and the New York 1:45:10.200 --> 1:45:13.360 Jets at oh eleven with a five eight nine strength 1:45:13.360 --> 1:45:17.000 of schedule. Currently those are you're not so powerful draft rankings. 1:45:17.800 --> 1:45:20.480 You know what. Jp You look at around the teams 1:45:20.520 --> 1:45:34.080 around the Jaguars, and most of those teams don't need quarterback. Bengals, Cowboys, Chargers, Panthers, 1:45:33.040 --> 1:45:37.080 they're the one, but the rest of those don't need quarterback. Well, 1:45:37.080 --> 1:45:40.240 the Panther. Here's if you if you win two games, 1:45:41.560 --> 1:45:44.320 that puts you. Let's say everyone else loses every game 1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:46.640 except for you, and you win two games, so it 1:45:46.680 --> 1:45:49.160 gets you three wins. The only team you'll fall behind 1:45:49.320 --> 1:45:53.680 is the Bengals, um because they have the time and 1:45:54.439 --> 1:45:56.720 the Bengals aren't going to draft the quarterback. But that's 1:45:56.720 --> 1:45:58.519 where all of a sudden that you have to worry 1:45:58.520 --> 1:46:01.760 about someone trading up into number two spy right, the 1:46:01.800 --> 1:46:05.640 Carolina Panthers. So at that point, unless you evaluate the 1:46:05.680 --> 1:46:09.000 kids from by U or some other quarterback out there 1:46:09.120 --> 1:46:11.120 as good enough for to take it three that you 1:46:11.160 --> 1:46:12.680 have confidence in, you're gonna have to give up some 1:46:12.800 --> 1:46:17.439 draft capital. Don't worry, don't worry, need not worry one bit. 1:46:18.000 --> 1:46:21.439 There is not gonna be another victory happening in Jacksonville 1:46:21.439 --> 1:46:26.479 this year, so don't worry about I'm not sure you 1:46:26.560 --> 1:46:30.880 said Cleveland. No, I said Minnesota too. They're not beating 1:46:30.880 --> 1:46:35.599 Minnesota at Minnesota. So where's the other one come. Where's 1:46:35.640 --> 1:46:39.759 the possibility come from Baltimore. Baltimore might have like eighty 1:46:39.760 --> 1:46:42.880 guys out with co H by that time. They'll run 1:46:42.920 --> 1:46:44.679 through it and they'll be immune to it, so they'll 1:46:44.680 --> 1:46:49.439 be falling. And then you have, indeed, Tennesee at home. 1:46:49.479 --> 1:46:52.320 They're not beating Tennessee cold last game of the year 1:46:52.360 --> 1:46:55.280 if they need it, they're not winning there, so don'ty, 1:46:55.320 --> 1:46:57.000 don't worry about it. They'll have the number two pick, 1:46:57.160 --> 1:46:59.880 maybe number one well, the Bangals aren't lose. They're not 1:47:00.400 --> 1:47:04.400 they're not winning. They're not winning any more games. No, 1:47:04.800 --> 1:47:07.200 not with that, not with not with Brandon Allen, by 1:47:07.200 --> 1:47:15.960 the way, we could pencil him maybe in. By the way, 1:47:15.439 --> 1:47:18.599 he's another one we can put on the lawne Jacob Waite, 1:47:18.680 --> 1:47:22.040 How do you say it, Tony, that's the first time, 1:47:22.040 --> 1:47:24.200 that's the first time Pete has ever gotten this guy. 1:47:24.320 --> 1:47:28.519 The guy's name, right, was another name before that? Right? 1:47:31.439 --> 1:47:34.240 So there you have it, the not so powerful draft order. 1:47:34.320 --> 1:47:36.519 Let's come back. We'll go around the league, hit all 1:47:36.560 --> 1:47:40.200 the games in week twelve and wrap it up. Monday 1:47:40.240 --> 1:47:42.760 Night football coming up as well. It's Jaguars Happy Hour 1:47:42.800 --> 1:47:52.160 on the Jaguars Digital Network. Jaguars fans, did you know 1:47:52.200 --> 1:47:54.840 that with Drizzly you can get Tito's handmade vodka delivered 1:47:54.880 --> 1:47:57.400 to your door and under sixty minutes. 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Shadrick, 1:51:13.400 --> 1:51:17.080 Pete Frisco, Tony Buzselly Glad you're along with us today 1:51:17.120 --> 1:51:20.120 and let's go around the National Football League and some 1:51:20.200 --> 1:51:23.120 news that has broken over the last little bit here 1:51:23.320 --> 1:51:26.519 during the second hour of the show, more changes to 1:51:26.720 --> 1:51:31.680 Steelers Ravens. It was scheduled Thanksgiving night. It was going 1:51:31.720 --> 1:51:35.080 to be scheduled on Monday, it got moved to Tuesday. Well, 1:51:35.120 --> 1:51:38.840 now it's been moved to Wednesday and the next week 1:51:38.920 --> 1:51:43.519 Steelers game against Washington has been moved back to Monday night. 1:51:44.200 --> 1:51:46.960 So a lot of changes all the COVID world. It's 1:51:47.000 --> 1:51:50.960 going through the Ravens football team right now, Pete, and 1:51:50.960 --> 1:51:53.479 it's a lot going on for Baltimore, all these changes 1:51:53.479 --> 1:51:55.760 trying to get obviously a very important football game in 1:51:56.600 --> 1:51:58.479 well at least they have a quarterback we can play 1:51:58.520 --> 1:52:03.160 on like the Denver Broncos on Sunday. I mean, look, 1:52:03.720 --> 1:52:05.840 it's we're a week twelve and there hasn't been a 1:52:05.840 --> 1:52:08.920 game canceled. That that speaks to the NFL and speaks 1:52:08.920 --> 1:52:10.720 to what the players have done so far to make 1:52:10.760 --> 1:52:15.759 this a reality. And let's hope it continues. And let's hope. 1:52:16.479 --> 1:52:18.720 The only reason the game hasn't been canceled because then 1:52:18.840 --> 1:52:23.599 bye weeks to play with and they moved, but they 1:52:23.600 --> 1:52:25.720 have there's no more bye weeks to play with. It's over. 1:52:25.800 --> 1:52:27.920 The bye week care assault is over. So now they 1:52:27.920 --> 1:52:31.559 are trying to shove gains in anyway they can. That's 1:52:31.560 --> 1:52:35.120 why they're gonna play the announced Wednesday for Steelers Ravens 1:52:35.680 --> 1:52:38.360 and then when they get hoping they get two days 1:52:38.400 --> 1:52:43.480 of tests and then Monday, um the Monday before the 1:52:43.600 --> 1:52:46.600 football team against the Steelers. But you look at this 1:52:46.680 --> 1:52:49.439 past week. They forced the Broncos to play a game 1:52:49.479 --> 1:52:52.599 without a quarterback. Yeah, that was well, the Broncos kind 1:52:52.600 --> 1:52:55.920 of forced it on themselves because they self reported the 1:52:55.920 --> 1:52:59.680 incident and then the tape became available and and uh, 1:52:59.800 --> 1:53:01.960 you know then the NFL looked at it and said 1:53:02.080 --> 1:53:04.599 they were you know, masks down at times when they 1:53:04.600 --> 1:53:06.599 were eating and they kept them down and everything else. 1:53:06.640 --> 1:53:09.800 But you know how many there were no positive tests 1:53:09.800 --> 1:53:13.120 among the quarterback none they were They were put out 1:53:13.160 --> 1:53:16.400 because they were close to Yeah, they were, they were 1:53:16.400 --> 1:53:19.680 close to Jeff Friscoll. So I mean the NFL has 1:53:19.680 --> 1:53:22.000 gotta ask it quite asked the question. Yeah, you want 1:53:22.000 --> 1:53:23.800 to be diligent, you want to be safe, But if 1:53:23.800 --> 1:53:27.679 a guy is not sick and you don't have a quarterback, 1:53:27.680 --> 1:53:30.479 should he be held out? Is that right? Is that 1:53:30.560 --> 1:53:36.879 a good thing to the lease that the Dick Fangio 1:53:37.000 --> 1:53:39.080 came out and was mad at his quarterbacks. He wasn't 1:53:39.080 --> 1:53:42.400 mad at the NFL. I'm not saying it. My point 1:53:42.520 --> 1:53:44.400 is if they would have been earlier in the year, 1:53:44.439 --> 1:53:46.519 they would have they would have not played the game. 1:53:46.560 --> 1:53:48.599 They would have managed with the bye week and they 1:53:48.640 --> 1:53:52.880 had figured it out. Now they're gonna play games on Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday. 1:53:53.080 --> 1:53:55.519 They're gonna play games no matter what. Because they did 1:53:55.520 --> 1:53:59.000 not want a week before the playoffs. Yeah, I don't 1:53:59.000 --> 1:54:02.240 know why they pushed back so much on that. Well. 1:54:02.280 --> 1:54:04.840 Be the bigger issue for me is what are they 1:54:04.880 --> 1:54:06.720 you're doing to get in the playoffs, because I don't 1:54:06.800 --> 1:54:08.720 the vaccine is not gonna be meaningful by the time 1:54:08.720 --> 1:54:12.000 the playoffs. Good here, COVID is not disappearing before the playoffs. 1:54:12.040 --> 1:54:14.120 It's gonna be the heart of winter in most of 1:54:14.120 --> 1:54:17.000 these places where people are inside all the time. What 1:54:17.040 --> 1:54:18.840 are they gonna do? Because if you had a run 1:54:18.840 --> 1:54:22.280 of an out an outbreak during the playoffs, I mean 1:54:22.960 --> 1:54:26.320 you can't. You can't talking about bubbling teams and putting 1:54:26.360 --> 1:54:27.920 him in a hotel like you said the beginning of 1:54:27.960 --> 1:54:29.920 the season, you with it. I said, I think you 1:54:30.000 --> 1:54:31.640 have to do it. I think you're gonna have to. 1:54:31.800 --> 1:54:35.280 You're gonna have to quarantine these teams because otherwise there's 1:54:35.320 --> 1:54:38.800 no way you're gonna make it. Where's the spread coming from? 1:54:39.160 --> 1:54:41.720 You know the reports Now that the children don't spread it, 1:54:41.720 --> 1:54:43.440 that's where they're going to reopen the school so the 1:54:43.480 --> 1:54:45.360 kids aren't giving it to the parents. So where's it 1:54:45.400 --> 1:54:48.760 coming from. Well, they're going out. I mean, I'm sure 1:54:48.760 --> 1:54:50.640 they're going to dinner. They're probably picking the stuff up 1:54:50.720 --> 1:54:53.200 the gas station. Who knows. I mean, it just takes 1:54:53.240 --> 1:54:55.560 one of them. Yeah, And did you see the fourty 1:54:55.640 --> 1:54:57.680 nights have to play two home games in Arizona to 1:54:58.560 --> 1:55:03.200 California is shut down. Northern California specifically is shut down. 1:55:03.640 --> 1:55:05.440 All right, we have family up there. My wife would 1:55:05.440 --> 1:55:08.839 just tell me during the last commercial break, all kids sports. 1:55:08.880 --> 1:55:10.520 They have kids that are getting ready to play hockey. 1:55:10.520 --> 1:55:14.200 For the last year, everything shut down completely. They can't 1:55:14.280 --> 1:55:17.520 leave like it's nothing out for four weeks. So if 1:55:17.560 --> 1:55:20.360 they were okay, California has been one of the strictest 1:55:20.360 --> 1:55:22.760 states in terms of shutting down. If it didn't work, 1:55:22.840 --> 1:55:25.640 what's the point of doing it again? A good pete. 1:55:25.640 --> 1:55:27.160 You gotta ask the one who get paid a lot 1:55:27.200 --> 1:55:29.520 more money than you, and I can tell you those things. 1:55:29.600 --> 1:55:33.600 I mean, I'm I'm not Dr Prisco or Prisco the scientists, 1:55:33.640 --> 1:55:35.520 although back in the day I did play doctor when 1:55:35.680 --> 1:55:37.280 cough in mind about injuries and I had to figure 1:55:37.280 --> 1:55:42.000 out what everybody was hurt with. But you know, silly hip, 1:55:42.640 --> 1:55:51.720 silly shoulder, the silly everything, silly me. Put them on 1:55:51.760 --> 1:55:59.720 a private plane, send them home. Oh man, that was 1:56:00.000 --> 1:56:02.640 would not be funny because expressing on your face as 1:56:02.680 --> 1:56:04.880 priceless every time I say it, There's no doubt about it. 1:56:04.960 --> 1:56:07.320 Let's such in a couple of games from yesterday, running 1:56:07.360 --> 1:56:13.240 short on time, the well, the Patriots seventeen over the Cardinals. Pete, 1:56:13.560 --> 1:56:16.160 are you counting the Patriots out? They have some life 1:56:16.160 --> 1:56:18.840 for now? No, it just Cat Newton didn't even bed 1:56:18.880 --> 1:56:21.320 for a hundred yards and they won the game. I mean, 1:56:21.760 --> 1:56:24.880 bad loss for Arizona, really bad loss. The kicker make 1:56:24.920 --> 1:56:27.000 your kick he missed. He missed the field goal of 1:56:27.080 --> 1:56:30.040 a minute forty left, and uh then they went down 1:56:30.040 --> 1:56:34.000 and got one. Make your kick about the Broncos yesterday 1:56:34.040 --> 1:56:36.480 without the quarterbacks kid has going there. I think he 1:56:36.560 --> 1:56:39.440 was like one for seven or something passing that game 1:56:39.520 --> 1:56:43.680 set quarterbacking back to the tebow era. I mean it 1:56:44.720 --> 1:56:48.280 was so bad, it was awful. I felt bad for 1:56:48.360 --> 1:56:50.240 hinting he went in there. He never played quarterback, didn't 1:56:50.240 --> 1:56:52.320 even get any snaps with any reps. They didn't even 1:56:52.320 --> 1:56:55.480 know who he was. But Tasstom Hill can't pass either. 1:56:55.520 --> 1:56:57.360 All the tastom Hill hype is was his way out 1:56:57.360 --> 1:57:01.440 of control. He stinks too. How about the Chiefs and 1:57:01.480 --> 1:57:04.640 the Buccaneers. The Chiefs had a big lead, Bucks came 1:57:04.680 --> 1:57:07.320 back up within three, had some things going on the 1:57:07.360 --> 1:57:12.200 fourth quarter, but the Chiefs hold on. Tommy is not happy. 1:57:12.600 --> 1:57:17.160 He doesn't look happy. He looks miserable. Is the beef 1:57:17.280 --> 1:57:20.880 real between him and Arians or is this media makeup? Well? 1:57:20.920 --> 1:57:23.120 Did you see Arians came out and said that Brady 1:57:23.160 --> 1:57:25.560 picks the plays and calls the plays there his plays, 1:57:26.000 --> 1:57:29.400 And all Romo did was defend Brady on Sunday. I 1:57:29.400 --> 1:57:32.240 mean I didn't I didn't get it. I think when 1:57:32.280 --> 1:57:35.080 you look at this situation, Brady might be losing a 1:57:35.120 --> 1:57:38.320 little bit now maybe then you don't. You see him 1:57:38.360 --> 1:57:42.040 pouting and moping, and you know, he's always been a 1:57:42.080 --> 1:57:44.520 guy who you know you could read his body language. 1:57:44.800 --> 1:57:47.040 Remember the Giants used to hit him and make him 1:57:47.160 --> 1:57:49.680 pout and moan and see ghosts and everything else. That's 1:57:49.720 --> 1:57:51.440 what's starting to happen with him. And he's not hitting 1:57:51.440 --> 1:57:54.000 the deep shots. He did it one yesterday though. Yeah. 1:57:54.040 --> 1:57:56.400 The biggest issue is his deep ball accuracy is just 1:57:56.520 --> 1:57:59.440 gun out the window. It's gone, it's disappeared, it's left 1:57:59.480 --> 1:58:01.600 the building. If you had to pick right now, are 1:58:01.640 --> 1:58:07.000 the Chiefs They're gonna win it all again? Yes, yeah, 1:58:07.000 --> 1:58:08.960 I think the Chiefs are the favorite. Yeah with you. 1:58:09.560 --> 1:58:11.640 Of course, the Packers might have something to say about that. 1:58:11.640 --> 1:58:14.360 They look pretty good last night again too, Yeah. I 1:58:14.400 --> 1:58:19.840 don't think they know. They played against the Bears awful offensively, Yeah, 1:58:19.840 --> 1:58:22.400 but the Bears defense is pretty good and they carved 1:58:22.400 --> 1:58:25.600 in the shreds last night. Time. That's gonna be tough. 1:58:25.920 --> 1:58:28.200 That's gonna be a tough offense to stop in the playoffs. 1:58:30.320 --> 1:58:33.240 Time for Monday night football. It's a battle of the 1:58:33.320 --> 1:58:35.800 birds in the City of Brotherly Love, and tonight in 1:58:35.880 --> 1:58:38.960 South Billy, Carson Wentz in the Philadelphia Eagles could vault 1:58:39.000 --> 1:58:41.160 in the first place in the NFC East with a 1:58:41.240 --> 1:58:45.640 win over Russell Wilson and the suddenly human Seattle Seahawks. 1:58:45.800 --> 1:58:50.160 Who you got tonight in Philadelphia? It might be I 1:58:52.000 --> 1:58:57.640 got this and not win. It's gonna be wins. They'll 1:58:57.640 --> 1:59:00.040 put in some gimmick packages for hers. He's not to 1:59:00.160 --> 1:59:03.240 play quarterback. I don't think I would. I think Seattle 1:59:03.280 --> 1:59:05.360 goes in there and throws it around, although the Eagles 1:59:05.360 --> 1:59:08.040 can rush the quarterback, and they're banged up on on 1:59:08.120 --> 1:59:11.080 the deep on the offensive line and Seattle's banged up 1:59:11.080 --> 1:59:13.680 on the offensive line. But I'll take Seattle. I don't 1:59:13.720 --> 1:59:16.800 love it, but I'll take him. Yeah, I'll take the 1:59:16.840 --> 1:59:19.400 better quarterback. I'll take Russell Wilson. I think he uh 1:59:19.760 --> 1:59:21.720 plays a little better, doesn't throw it to the wrong 1:59:21.760 --> 1:59:24.520 color jersey as much tonight as he has the last 1:59:24.560 --> 1:59:30.760 few weeks. And I think a gotta go Pete Sia, 1:59:31.320 --> 1:59:36.120 Tony Sia. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour. Thank 1:59:36.160 --> 1:59:39.120 you for listening and from watching. We'll get you next time. 1:59:39.200 --> 2:00:05.800 Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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