1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: It is Monday. This is Jet Laws Happy Hour. Jaguars 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Happy I was presented by Jet Home Loans. Hey now 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: a guy who recently tested positive for peacn pie. J 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: That's a great open, a great one. Welcome in Jaguars 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Happy Our presented by Jet Home Loans. My name's J. P. Shadrick. 6 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: We've got a busy program today. Glad you're along with 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: us on this Monday, after week twelve. This was coming 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: up on the show today. Pete Briscoe and Tony Busselly 9 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: are standing by to get into the aftermath of the 10 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: Browns Jaguars game. Yes, we will touch on the game 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: a little later in the show. The biggest news though, 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: of course, Dave Calledwell fired as the general manager after 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: yesterday's game. Jaguars owner Shot con said that Doug Marona 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: and the staff are safe through the twenty twenty season. 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: So what's next. We'll get into all that. We'll go 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: around the a f C South, because we must, they're 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: not so powerful. Draft order is coming up, and the 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: Jags are pretty high up, of course, and we'll go 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: around the National Football League. Jaguars to the Browns the 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: tenth consecutive loss. But in the aftermath, shotgun fired, Dave 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: called Well releasing a statement about five thirty saying that 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: he had met with called Well to express his appreciation 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: for his service to the Jaguars. He was committed and 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: determined to bringing a winner to Jacksonville, but the efforts 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: were not rewarded with results, and the football operation needs 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: new leadership, and we'll have it with a new general 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: manager in one. It ends a run for Caldwell that 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: started in under his leadership as the GM. The Jaguars 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: had a thirty seven and eighty six record overall in 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: the regular season. At least, they had one playoff runt, 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: of course, in nine first round draft picks, but four 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: are currently with the team. Davin Brian, Josh Allen, C. J. 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Henderson and calebon Chason are the ones left over the 34 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: last three drafts. He had some hits in deeper parts 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: of the draft, but not enough hits at the very 36 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: top of the draft, and certainly the results on the 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: field speak for themselves. Pete Frisco, Tony Basselli joining us now. 38 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, gentlemen. First off, Pete, what do you think 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: about the move? After the game yesterday? Shaw didn't fire Belly. 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: What did you say I said Shaw didn't fire Baselly. Well, 41 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean if he said fire me, he's firing you too. 42 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: Are we a package deal? I will think so, Tony. 43 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Before we get into all this about the firing and everything, 44 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: I want to say. JP is sending out tweets the 45 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: other day about I guess we were nominated that Jaguars 46 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: Happy Hour was nominated one the best radio shows in town. 47 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: But what folio is weekly best of Jack's cot Okay, 48 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: and then it says best radio host nomination. You know who? 49 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: You know who's nominated? Tony J. P. Shadrick. I think 50 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: he and his family stuffed the ballot box these elections. Well, 51 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that this is the 52 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: best show because you and I are, so let's be 53 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: clear about that. I will say I think the shows 54 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: might be an anchor. The show was nominated because of 55 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: the segment that Tony missed the last week when we 56 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: talked about James Robinson, Pete and I. That fifteen minute 57 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: window I think got us the domination. No, JP, you're 58 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: glossing over everything. It didn't say Tony was nominated. Didn't 59 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: say me, It said you in an individual part of 60 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: the nomination. You I think you got the family and 61 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: your friends the stuff the ballot box. I don't have 62 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: that many friends, first of all, and second my family's 63 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: tiny would not work. So no, but Jaguar is happy. 64 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: Elections thumbs up. We need to recount the vote early 65 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: and vote vote early in Austin early, and Austen vote 66 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: on at folio weekly. So let's get into it. Dave called, 67 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: well gone after the game, guys, And how about the 68 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: timing of this pete? Is it too late? Is it 69 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: too early? Is it on time? Is there ever a 70 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: right time? Well, you can understand why they did it. 71 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: Now you look around the league. The Lions just did it, 72 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: blew out the GM and coach. The Texans have already 73 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: done it. They're looking for a general manager UM and 74 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: a coach and the Falcon Falcons right, So now you're 75 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: you're in a race that's trying to identify the best 76 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: guy to fill that position who will then hire his coach. 77 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: And Doug Morone is staying. And I think in my 78 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: mind part of the reason he's staying is when they 79 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: fired Gus Bradley, Doug Morone came onto the interim coach 80 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: and he beat the Titans, I think, and played close 81 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: against the Colts and they had some life and then 82 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: they decided to keep them. Well, this gives them no 83 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: option to keeping anybody. You can't make Jay Gruden or 84 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: somebody the interim coach and he can win a couple 85 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: of games, a ruined the draft pick and give himself 86 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: some credibility. Now you're just gonna start from scratt Now, 87 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: I think you go and everybody goes after the season. 88 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: You start from the bottom and retool the whole thing. Well, 89 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: I think what Pete is the first part is dead 90 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: on because you have I mean, you have four open things. 91 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: Forget about the coach for a second. I think we 92 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: can get in this later. I think you're gonna have 93 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: as many as eight openings for head coaches this year. 94 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: I think there's a bunch of them coming um and 95 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: so it's a race to get there. But before you 96 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: can even enter that race, you have de stability at 97 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: the top of the house on the football side, who 98 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: your GM is and who's gonna be running and leading 99 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: the football side of the business. And I think the 100 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Lions doing that and even put more urgency because now 101 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: you have four open the GM spots that you're gonna 102 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: competing for. And I think in a perfect world you'd 103 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: like that GM in place right after the season is 104 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: over so you can enter into the uh the coaching 105 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: carousel or the coaching race to get your next guy. 106 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: So I thought the timing was right. You never like it. 107 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: We're talking about people's livelihoods. Dave Coldwell has been around 108 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: this organization. We all know him, we have relationships with them, 109 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and so you never like it. But Dave knows. I mean, 110 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: this is a very I mean, analytics have taken over 111 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: this all sports, and and some people like it, some 112 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: people don't. But you know what, you know what the 113 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: most most analytical thing you can measure is wins and 114 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: losses and that's the only metric at the end of 115 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: the day that matters UM and so UH and when 116 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: you're on the wrong side of the ledger and that 117 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: UH in that UH, when you to measure that or 118 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: that metric, you're gonna end up getting fired. And that 119 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: that's what happened. So I think timing wise, I understand it. 120 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: You're now in for the race to fill that void 121 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: and finding the right guy to lead the football side 122 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguar. I think the hundred losses and 123 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: how that became an issue last week kind of spurred 124 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: on the con family to do something. I mean, it's 125 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: smart to do it, but I think that was kind 126 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: of the impetus to get it going. Tony, I really do. 127 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: I think from a PR standpoint, that's a terrible Look. 128 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: What are they that? What was it? JP second quickest 129 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: the hundred losses and any owner in the NFL, and 130 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: I think he's the first one who didn't take over 131 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: an expansion team to get that fat. It wasn't the last. 132 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: The one who has the quickest was Culver house House 133 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, right, So when you look 134 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: at that from that standpoint, it's it really was one 135 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: of those situations where I think they reevaluated and said, look, 136 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: we gotta start doing something to turn the PR around. 137 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: And and nobody plays PR campaigns, but when you're the 138 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: owner of the team and you're that guy, you're gonna 139 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: start doing something. So it was the right look, it 140 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: was the right thing to do in terms of the timing. 141 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: Why wait until the end of the year, because you 142 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: knew they were going to do it at the end 143 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: of the year. So do you have it? Dave Caldwell out, 144 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: that means Director of Player Personnel Trent and Balky is 145 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: the interim GM. He's got to get him through the 146 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: season with transactions and everything going on. And he was 147 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: the former forty Niners general manager from eleven through sixteen. 148 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: He hired Jim Harbaugh out there, got him away from 149 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: Stanford and then the changes there. It got to the 150 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, of course, and then things changed. Tom Slow 151 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: was there and then all of a sudden, Chip Kelly 152 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: was there, and then everybody was gone after the Chip 153 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: Kelly run in San Francisco. He started his career as 154 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: a scout. He's been here since January as the player 155 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: personnel director for the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's what's going to 156 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: happen for the next month, at least in the interim 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: role as general manager. Now, what about the coaching staff? 158 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: You ask head coach Doug Marone, and the staff are 159 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: safe through the season, according to shot Con and Doug Barrone. 160 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: Today discussed everything that's happened since last night. You know, 161 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: Dave and I had a good relationship, you know, I 162 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I you know, it's not like you know, we haven't 163 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: been through this before meeting. You know, people that have 164 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: been in the league, you know, Um, you know, it's 165 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: obviously unfortunate, but um, you know, it is part of 166 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: the profession and we wish you know you Like I said, 167 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: I spoke to Dave and you know, I wish him 168 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: and his family the best of luck. We had a 169 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: good relationship. Um, you know, it's it's very difficult, and 170 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: you know, my focus right now is not on all 171 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: the things that may be going on on the outside, 172 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: but you know, trying to get the team to win 173 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: football games and m be there for the coaches and 174 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: the players. Doug Barron added today, guys that obviously, as 175 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: he just mentioned at the end, there, they're gonna go 176 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: out and try to win games. Still, that's what he 177 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: can do. What are the chances that he survives, is 178 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: he Oh yeah, I don't, I mean zero, I'd be shocked. 179 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean JP, it's time to just start a new 180 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: and whether you want to blame Dave or Doug or whatever, 181 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: the proof is in the pudding. It's time to start over. 182 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: It's time to rebuild the thing. It's time to bring 183 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: somebody in who brings their own coach in. Look, you 184 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: can pretty much guess that guys are jockeying already. I 185 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: imagine Trent Balkis making a predicted you know, he's making 186 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: a pitch to be the new GM. And then in 187 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: that case, oh well, you know I'd go out and 188 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: get this guy, or I'm gonna keep Doug. But I 189 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: think they all have to go, all of them, just 190 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: bringing new guys, bringing some new blood, change the culture, 191 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: turn it over. And you know, here's one higher, Tony 192 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: BASSELLI to be your general manager? Would you take a job? 193 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: You're the best? Um, I agree with you. I agree 194 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent with what you're saying is a whole new 195 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: culture because if you look at it, and you said 196 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: something earlier about Shod having a hundred now a hundred 197 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: one losses since he's become an owner, and really nothing 198 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: has changed if you look at it since the day 199 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: he hired it and he brought in Dave Coldwell and 200 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: that whole crew. Outside of we changed that coaches once 201 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin showed up and got fired. Um, outside of that, 202 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: it's been the same scouts, the same people, the same GM. 203 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really been um very few changes, and 204 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I think it's time to your point, and it's not 205 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: my job to fire uh, Doug Moro own have called, well, 206 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: it's not your job either, Pete. But if you look 207 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: at it, at some point you have to say, we 208 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: need to change the culture, we need to change the attitude, 209 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And sometimes it's not fair and sometimes 210 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: you just have to clean this late and start fresh 211 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: and so that there's a single um, you know, north Star, 212 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: if this is where we're going, this is who we are. UM. 213 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't care how you've done in the past or 214 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: what has the you know, good, bad or different. This 215 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: is how this is the new protocols, and this is 216 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: who we are as an organization, and this is how 217 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: things are gonna be done on the football side of 218 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: the team. And you need new leadership, uh, new voice 219 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: on that side of the building. I think is critical. 220 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that because I think Doug's a 221 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: bad coach by any means. I've said all year. I 222 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: think he's done an outstanding job with this young team. 223 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: And one of the things and that people listening here like, 224 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: are you an idiot? What do you mean is an 225 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: outstanding job? They have ten losses in a row. I 226 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's a talented team. I don't think it's 227 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: a talented roster. I think it's a young roster that 228 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: has the potential talent on it. Um. But the way, 229 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: one of the reasons the way you measure a coach 230 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: is obviously ultimately wins and losses. But when you are 231 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: that young and that inexperience and that many gaps, you 232 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: have to watch how this team plays and how they 233 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: compete and how they fight. I mean, you're looking at 234 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: the team yesterday that is decimated by injuries on an 235 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: already super young roster that had some gaps talent wise, 236 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: and you're rolling out there with Luke marco Is a 237 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: corner and Josiah Scott, and you know a bunch of 238 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: guys on the front that are either undrafted rookie free 239 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: agents or guys you just picked up and they're fighting 240 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: their tails off and you look at you know, you're 241 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: on your third quarterback of the year. Um. Yeah, you 242 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: have a undrafted rookie free agent playing running back, by 243 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: the way, a very good player. Um. And so you 244 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: put all those things together, Pete, you've seen it as 245 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: much as I have. In this league. You see teams 246 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: quit and you see guys to be selfish and play 247 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: for themselves, and you know, take opportunities. If the slidest oper, 248 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, to find a way out of the game, 249 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: they take it. I have not seen that on this 250 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: team at all, and under some really tough circumstances and 251 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: tough situations. And I get Doug in this staff a 252 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: ton of credit because that is one of the hardest 253 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: things to do when everything's going against you and you're 254 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: losing and you're not as talented as the people you're playing, 255 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: to get guys to play hard every week. And he 256 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: has done that. And so however, I still think you 257 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: need a start, you need culture, a new voice, and 258 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: everything else. Here's the ticket, the celliest general manager, and 259 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: the only reason he gets the general manager title is 260 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: because he's up in the ring of honor. I'll be 261 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: as assistant general manager. We'll keep Tim Walsh because Tim 262 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Walsh can do every contract known to man and knows 263 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: the cap like none other. So we'll keep Tim Walsh. 264 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: Now we're redoing the whole organization right now. So well, yeah, 265 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: well me and you are starting. You're you're at the top. 266 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: You'll be the general manager with the title. I'll be 267 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: your assistant general Manager Tim Walsh will stay on to 268 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: do cap. Then we just got to find a coach 269 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Tony and there are a lot of candidates out there. 270 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: I really like we got yeah, and we can go 271 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: through the coaches. But in like all like and we 272 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: should listen, let's talk about this shape. And I don't 273 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: know what the rundown, but I do think of like 274 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: who the next guy is, and whether you're joking or not, 275 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm flattered that you think I'd be a good gm 276 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: um and so I'll just I'll take you at your 277 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: ord is you're not joking, but I do think we 278 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: we should do that. That's my point. This is about 279 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: you need to get somebody who's a leader who knows 280 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: football and makes it all about football in the sense 281 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: of there is there's a bunch of things that the 282 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: process is important, how you do things are important, analytics 283 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: are important, how you measure things, and everything else. But 284 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, every decision in this 285 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: organization needs to be made based on one thing and 286 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: one thing only, and that is at some point in 287 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: the near future, shot Con is sitting on a platform 288 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: getting the Lombardi Trophy from the Commissioner of the NFL, 289 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: because that's why you play, that's why you exist as 290 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: an organization, is to strive to win a championship. And 291 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: the only way you do that, Pete, you have to 292 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: give yourself as many cracks as it is possible, meaning 293 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: you have to win your division and get into the 294 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: tournament year after year after year to have that opportunity, 295 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: and to do that, you better find a franchise quarterback, 296 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: and you better you better have some big guys who 297 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: can play football. That's how this game one. That was 298 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: a great campaign speech. By the way, I really like that. No, 299 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: no I, Tony. You can talk all about analytics, um, 300 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: the salary cap fitting guys in the whole deal. What 301 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: it boils down to is really three things. Three things. 302 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: Can your quarterback win games with his right arm? Do 303 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: you block? And do you tackle? That's when you really 304 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: bring it down to the simplest form of what everything 305 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: they do that matters gets into three things. Can your 306 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: quarterback win games with his right arm? Can your offensive 307 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: line block? And can you tackle? Period? All right, let's 308 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: take your time out here, guys. We've got plenty ahead 309 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: on this. Obviously, it's the major news story of the day. 310 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: We'll touch on the game from yesterday. Not for long. 311 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: We'll touch on it. It it happened. It's ten consecutive 312 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: losses for the Jaguars. Second hour a little later, we'll 313 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: have your social questions. The mailboxes full today, as you 314 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: would imagine, we'll get to those who go around the 315 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: league the not so powerful draft order. And since the 316 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: Jags are officially eliminated, I think, Pete, we can officially 317 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: start talking about draft now. 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But uh, yeah, overall, 386 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: I felt good. Mike glennon starting quarterback yesterday for the 387 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: Jaguars and the loss to the Cleveland Browns. Welcome Back 388 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans j P 389 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Shadrick Pete, Frisco Tony Wasselley more on the aftermath of 390 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: the firing of Dave Caldwell a little bit later in 391 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: the program that coach Doug more On the staff are safe. 392 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: Through Mike Glennon. Yesterday, guys, it was twenty of thirty 393 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: five passing two d thirty five yards, a couple of touchdowns, 394 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: a rating of nineties six point seven. Would you make 395 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: of the performance yesterday, Pete? It was okay. It wasn't awful. 396 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: It was a little in fact that I'd be honest, 397 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: It was a little bit better than I thought it 398 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: would be. Um. He actually made a couple of big 399 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: time throws and looked like an NFL quarterback for a time. 400 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: There were times when it, you know, it waned a 401 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: little bit, but at all it was better. Uh, it 402 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: was better than I expected, to be honest with you. 403 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: It wasn't great, but better than I expected. Did they 404 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: make an announcement today on a quarterback? No, they did not. 405 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Doug Maron said today that he has not had a 406 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: chance to talk to the team yet, so he's gonna 407 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: wait to do that before he announces what's what's going 408 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: to happen moving forward. But Pete did anticipate that Glennon 409 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: would be the quarterback again, Tony, I mean he does. 410 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: If you're Doug Marrone, you got five games. Other than that, 411 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. So why not go with the guy 412 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: maybe gives the best chance to win? And that looks 413 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: to be Mike Lennon. So wouldn't you play him again? Yeah? 414 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: Based on what I've seen the three guys, it looks 415 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: like he gives you the best chance. And and if 416 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: you're Doug, you're right you you decide to go with 417 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to win football games. You don't 418 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: care about the draft or draft position. What does it 419 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: matter for you? Um? And he's thinking about his players 420 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: and the guys and I locker room, because they want 421 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: to win football games at the end of the day. 422 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: And so give give everyone, give the you know, put 423 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: the guy there, whoever it is. Um. But he didn't. 424 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: We kind of And I agree with you. I thought 425 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: it was good. I thought he was fine because I've 426 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: told people are like, he looks really good. I go, okay, great, 427 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: but it's he's still like, he's not gonna be good 428 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: enough to make a decision to pass on the quarterback 429 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: in the future. You're trying to figure out who your 430 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: backup is at this point. And didn't we know that 431 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: Mike Lennon had games like this in him because early 432 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: in his career I think it was a Tampa he 433 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: showed some spurts were like, hey enough where the Bears 434 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: paid him like twenty million bucks to come in to 435 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: try to be the guy and and we and we 436 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: all know how that works out. Um, yeah, it was fine. 437 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: He's got a big arm because he looked accurate at 438 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: times in the pocket. You know, he's not overly athletic, 439 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: and that was you know, you could see that I 440 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: thought he could you know, a guy with an athletic 441 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: quarterback pipe runs the ball in on that two point 442 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: conversion because there was no one there. Um, but that's okay, 443 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: that's not who he is, So yeah, um, play him whatever. 444 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: But doesn't that say speak volumes about the state of 445 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback position on that team. If Mike Glennan gives 446 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: you the best option, I mean, that's all right there. 447 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: That's why number two overall draft pick is so important 448 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: to that franchise going forward, no matter who runs it, 449 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: because if you get the right quarterback, you're a football genius. 450 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: I mean you look, Brett Beach has done a really 451 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: good job in Kansas City, but if he doesn't have 452 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, and give him credit, he identified him r 453 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: made sure that they went and got him. Is he 454 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: a good general manager? Hard to say, You don't know. 455 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: Probably not. If you solve the quarterback position, it solves 456 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: almost everything else. So that's why number two overall is 457 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: enormous for whoever does take that job. Yeah, but I 458 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: don't think Pete's fair to say he's not a good GM. 459 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: I think your I didn't say that, So I said, 460 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: do we know would he be getting all the accolades 461 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: that he's getting if he didn't say he got Mitch 462 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: Robinsky and not Patrick Mahomes. Would they be talking about 463 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: what a great GM he is? No, Okay, I agree 464 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: with that, but that's my point. So he's done his job. 465 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: So much of this speed is picking the right guy, 466 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: but also then building around that guy. Because I'll give 467 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: you an example. Um, look at the Colts when they 468 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: had the first overall pick, anyone could have picked Andrew 469 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: Luck and Ryan Grigson their GM. At first it is like, oh, 470 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: he's a good look at him, good GM, Well do 471 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: out he was. He wasn't because he didn't build around 472 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: him properly traded for you know, Alabama running back. But 473 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: first round Trent Richardson was a disaster and everyone who 474 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: watched him knew that was not the right to play 475 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: um And he didn't build He didn't build the line 476 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: around him to protect Andrew Lucky, didn't build the defense 477 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: to keep him on the field. And so while just 478 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: getting the quarterback right doesn't mean you're a great GM, 479 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: but getting that quarterback right is critical to building a team. 480 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: And then you have to look at a guy like 481 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Grett Fitch. I'm gonna give him credit. At the same time, 482 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: do you a are we fully clear of the roles 483 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: and responsibilities and how much influence Andy um Reid is 484 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: playing in that and how he is driving the organization 485 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: and is he really because beach and God, he's said 486 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: a lot in that building that that was his guy. 487 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 1: Even Andy Reid said it many times. So that's why 488 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: that's why you have to give him credit. And they've 489 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: built a good team around it. They built to his strength. 490 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: They built a good enough offensive line. Now they're not 491 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: playing as well this year. Mitchell Schwartz isn't playing as 492 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: well the right tackle, but a decent offensive line. They 493 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: have a guy who can affect the quarterback and Chris Jones. 494 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: Um they're not great defensively other than that, but they 495 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: do have that. And they said, you know what, we 496 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: got this great quarterback. We're gonna give a weapon. We 497 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: gotta tied in and we got a bunch of fast 498 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: guys who can run around, and we'll go find a 499 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: running back, you know, second, third, fourth, fifth, whatever. And 500 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: they've run out a bunch of different guys at running 501 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: back in Patrick Mahomes time there. So you have to 502 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: give him credit um as the as the as the 503 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: GM of that organization. At the same time, part of 504 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: that credit is getting the quarterback right. We saw it 505 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville, Dave Caldwell at the house on Blake Bortles. Okay, 506 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: everyone misses here was the bigger mistake in my opinion, 507 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: And this is what I think is a quality of 508 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: really good gms and head coaches, by the way, is 509 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: when you omit your your mistakes early you know, in 510 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: business they call it failing fast, like go for it. 511 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: But when you're when you missed a minute, don't double 512 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: down and keep on going down because of pride or 513 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: ego or whatever else. And the biggest issue that happened 514 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: here with Dave called will It was not just missing 515 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: on Blake Portles. He missed Okay, great, But guess what 516 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: if he would have admitted his mistake after year three 517 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: and said, missed it. I'm going to get me another one. 518 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: He had the opportunity to draft draft Patrick Mahomes or 519 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson that was sitting right there. And guess what 520 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: if you would have admitted his mistake and drafted Patrick 521 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: Mahomes or DeShawn Watson, he would still probably be the 522 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: GM today because you have the quarterback and you'd be 523 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: a much better team. Well, I'll give you another example, Thomas, 524 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: to meet your off. Drafted Matt Ryan. And when if 525 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan came to the Falcons, they were dreadful. Remember 526 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: how bad they were, they were awful. Well, he came 527 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: there and then they had success. They built around them 528 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. They got you know, they got the weapons, 529 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: and they had within a whisker winning the Super Bowl. 530 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: But then it started the fray, and it's fray. They 531 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: couldn't solve the pass rush issue. They tried everything imaginable 532 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: to do that, and they had some injuries, and then 533 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: they had this big cap number and added this big 534 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: cap number and they had something. And then even though 535 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan still playing at a pretty high level, not 536 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes level, but pretty high level, they weren't sustainable anymore. 537 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: And that's why you talk about if you have the quarterback, 538 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: get the quarterback, identify the quarterback, then you have success. 539 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: But the good gms will be the ones that will 540 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: be able to continue that when you have to pay 541 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback and still supplement around them. Yeah, but I'll 542 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: give you the reason that they fell apart in Atlantaped. 543 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: It was a combination of head coach and GM because 544 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: it was not just building it right and missing on 545 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: some draft picks and not getting it right at certain positions. 546 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: The bigger issue in my was after the Super Bowl 547 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: they let when Kyle Shanahan got the job at the 548 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: four nine, they should have named one of his offensive assistants, 549 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: whether it was Lafour or whoever else, as the court 550 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: and keep the same system in place. Instead, they went 551 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: to Sarkaesian and had start come in and try to 552 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: run a system that was not his, and you missed 553 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: all the nuances of it that made them great. And 554 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: so that's also planning, and it is when you do 555 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: have success, have been developed talent under your coordinator, so 556 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: that when you lose a coordinator, you keep the guy 557 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: underneath him that could run the same system that you're 558 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: having success with. And the same on the defense. They 559 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: never got the defense right, and because he brought in 560 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: other people who were not running his system and trying 561 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: to meld to his system even though they didn't own it. 562 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: And you can make the argument the same mistake that 563 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: maybe Gus Bradley made here. Instead of him being defensive 564 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: coordinator and putting his system they believed, and he brought 565 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: Bob Babbagin who was a Tampa to cover to guy 566 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: and tried to have him run the system that Gus 567 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: wanted to put in. And so those are all new 568 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: launces that help you be successful as you go forward. 569 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: So it's getting the player right and the right players 570 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: quarterback first, I'm a believer inside out offensive defensive lines 571 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: after that, but it's also getting the right staff with coordinator, 572 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: head coach coordinators, and then building the system based on 573 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: what they want to be, meaning that if you want 574 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: to be a cover three like Gus Bradley, you better 575 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: get long corners, you can run in a in a 576 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: free state, you can cover a lot of ground in 577 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and a will linebacker that 578 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: can run with the over routes. I mean, there's certain things. 579 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: You better have a pass rusher. If you want to 580 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: be that old Tampa two, you better have a three 581 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: technique that can be disrupted. I mean, there's certain aspects 582 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: of the of the thing that you have to build for. 583 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: It's not just drafting and this is a fantasy football 584 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: We're just going to start picking players. You have to 585 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: build to what your conviction is and you have to 586 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: match up with your head coach. And then the long 587 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: term sustainability is having the quarterback, which we agree upon, 588 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: but also as you have success, to start losing coordinators 589 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: to other head coaches everything else, that you have someone 590 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: to fill them with to keep the system in place. 591 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: You know, Tony, we asked this question yesterday. How many 592 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: franchises right now feel comfortable with their quarterback for the 593 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: next four years? Okay, let's go through the division. UM. 594 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: I would say in the South, you have the Titans 595 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: in the Texans both feel comfortable with UM and the 596 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: let's say the a f C North Pittsburgh's not. Ben's 597 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be there for four years. UM, Cincinnati does, 598 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: as long as Borrow goes back from his knee injury. Does. 599 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: UM Cleveland, I don't. I don't think they don't. In 600 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Baltimore to this year, I'm not gonna say no, but boy, 601 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: he's taking a step backwards. But let's get Baltimore because 602 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: based on their system four UM in the East Buffalo, yes, 603 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: that's five. UM Jets, No, I don't think Miami does. 604 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: They don't know yet, so it's too early. And UM 605 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: New England, who's uh? In New England? No? Why West 606 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Mahomes yes? Six? Herbert yes seven h Denver doesn't know. 607 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: Denver doesn't know. And what about the Raiders? Is Derek 608 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: Carr the answer for four more years? Well it's a 609 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: it's a question mark. So no, that's the FC in 610 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: the Let's go NFC South New Orleans, No Carolina? No, 611 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: UM Atlanta four years from now? I don't think so. UM? 612 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: And then uh yea Okay, in the way in the West, Yes, 613 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: even though he played terrible. Yes, baby, I'm gonna give 614 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: it to him. Kyle Murray, yes, Um, Russells, Russell Wilson, Yes. 615 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: San Francis, Francisco. No, No, that's now we're up to 616 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: what is that? Eleven? Eleven? Okay? The NFC East Um No, no, 617 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: Went No, No, Dallas, yes, Prescott, Prescott. Yes, So that's twelve. 618 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: The NFC North Green Bay, where Roger's been playing in 619 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: four years. I don't think he wants to play that long. 620 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: He told me once he wants to play to his 621 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: forty at least. Okay, no, no, no, no, Um, Chicago twelve, 622 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: and you gave up golf of the entire league with 623 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks for the next four years. That's right, Hey, 624 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: let's Y's right. Injury could jump in there too. Plenty 625 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: more on that coming up. We'll touch on the defense, 626 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: and plenty more ahead on the firing of Dave Caldwell 627 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: in the aftermath, and how attractive the position is here 628 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville compared to some others. In the second hour, 629 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: your social questions around the league, all that coming up. 630 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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Robinson now 699 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: over eleven hundred scrimmage yards for the season. What a 700 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: year it's been for the undrafted rookie out of Illinois State. 701 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jaguars, Happy our j P, Shadrick, Tony Boselli, 702 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: and Pete Brisco The day after the Jaguars lost to 703 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I know they're one in nine, guys, 704 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 1: but where would they be without James Robinson Right now? 705 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: One in nine, they're actually one in I don't want 706 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: to excuse me, I've lost. It's amazing to think that 707 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: there were certain people that thought they could actually win 708 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: eleven games. That's right, and one of them is on 709 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: this show. What happened? It happened? Actually have Okay, But 710 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: here's the thing, JP, you've been we've been doing this 711 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: a lot of years now, UM and UM. Usually it 712 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: should have been a warning signed everyone, like the lights 713 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: should have gone, like the red lights, flashing lights, because 714 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: usually what do I have them? Fifteen and one, sixteen 715 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: and oh, fourteen and two. The fact that I only 716 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: have them winning eleven games should have been an alarms 717 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,959 Speaker 1: going off, like, oh, this is trying to you're trying 718 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: to get out from underneath that, right, I'm not trying 719 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: to get I'm not trying to get off anything. You 720 00:40:54,120 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: can't unush that button? Did you lock it? I did not? 721 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: And what did I lock? I locked something last week? 722 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: And I think it went rotten. You didn't lock something? 723 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: What did you lock? I can't remember. I can't remember either, 724 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: you guys remember what I locked it? I think it 725 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: had to be rotten because my picks were terrible. That 726 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: was two weeks ago. I think that they're usually so 727 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: bad the locks on this show that I just I 728 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: quit counting anymore. It was so memorable that we forgot 729 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: about it. Yes, well, we'll never forget about eleven. How 730 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: could you could you? I mean, my gosh, there's not 731 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: one thing that nobody could look at this team and 732 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: think they would. I mean, I feel like an idiot 733 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: thinking they would do in five games. Oh, Pete, you 734 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: locked the Jets? Is what you locked? Is what the 735 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: Jet You're gonna win? That's yeah, that was a bad pick. 736 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 1: That was a terrible You know, I could the quarterback 737 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: from us see you thrown interceptions. He's not. He hasn't. 738 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: He hasn't improved at all. Yeah, he played it was 739 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: it was ten three, they were the red zone and 740 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: he threw a terrible interception. I mean, it's just terrible. 741 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: Let's touch on defense here for the Jags yesterday, obviously 742 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: walking wounded going into the game, barely walking at all. 743 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: A lot of guys on I are some other players 744 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: out again yesterday and Von Hamilton's went down during the game. 745 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: Dug Maroon said today it's not as bad as they 746 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: thought last night, which is good news. He's still going 747 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: to go on I R. But it's positive and more 748 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: positive than it was yesterday, which is the good sign. 749 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: On defense, close them down for the rest of the season, 750 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: get him ready for next year. You'd be done with him. 751 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if there's any chance that he's not all 752 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: the way back, and then how about Josh Allen If 753 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: they're not, if they're not mean like in a normal season, 754 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: when you're pushing for a playoff of guy's percent, he's 755 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: probably gonna try and play. In this scenario, give him, 756 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: give him the out, you know, dude, like they're doing 757 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: in college. I'm done, I'm getting ready for the NFL. 758 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: Get ready for next year. Well, I mean, there's just 759 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: it's risk reward. If a guy is not acent, why 760 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: would you bring them back at this point? Right? But 761 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: don't you don't you agree there are been times, there 762 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: were times in your career when you were you played, 763 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: there were times, yeah, and that's what I mean because 764 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: it was it was it was meaningful. There's nothing meaningful 765 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: about the next five games. So shut them down if 766 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: they're not all the way back, and worry about next year. 767 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: So this is how I would do it. I think 768 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: it's a risk reward thing. I would look at him 769 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: because no one's ever you know that as well as 770 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: I do. I would look at it and say, okay, 771 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: based on his health, Von Hamilton's or Josh Allen's is 772 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: the upside and the only upside is for them to 773 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: get reps and to improve his players. Is the upside 774 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: worth the risk of re injuring whatever injury they have 775 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: that will impact their off season when we're hoping they 776 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: get better because thinking, because what you're trying to do 777 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: at this point with these young eyes is get them 778 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: better for next year, and you have to weigh it. 779 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: Is it better to play them right now and those 780 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: reps are meaningful to get them experience and everything like that, 781 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,919 Speaker 1: or would it be better off making sure they're healthy 782 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: so we get a really good offseason with these young 783 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: players so they're ready for next year. And that's the 784 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: equation you're running, Pete. That's all you're doing, right. I agree, 785 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: But but again, um, the reps might not be as 786 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: important if they're not. No, I agree, Just weigh it 787 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: out though, I mean, yeah, I mean, like I'll give 788 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 1: it if I don't even know what. Let's say, Devon 789 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: Hamilton's injuries a grade one mc L. Typically if you 790 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: if you're if it's the playoffs, you're taping it up 791 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: and figure out how to get out there. If you 792 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: can do anything, you're gonna play. And but you're saying 793 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: to be healthy, like back, it's a two week injury, 794 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: all right, I'm probably gonna bring him back for the 795 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: last three monks of the game because it's, you know, 796 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: a minor injury. If it's a Grade two and it's 797 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: four to six weeks and I can push them to 798 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: be there for the last week of the season, is 799 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: that really worth it? I don't think so. No, not 800 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: particularly not if they're sitting out four games. He was 801 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 1: starting to play really well, So I think I think 802 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: he's a fine I think they have a good player there. 803 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: Wn't you agree. I mean, he has a chance to 804 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: be really good in the interior. I think he's a 805 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: starting caliber first and second down one technique, So he's 806 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 1: a he's a regular personnel one technique that's starting caliber. Yes, 807 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: is he gonna um? Is he a three technique? Or 808 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: I want out there in passing situations that's gonna have 809 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: to pressure the quarterback? Probably not. Can you push the 810 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: pocket at times? Yes, But I mean, but his skill 811 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: set is run defender, and so maybe big big nickel 812 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: personnel when the team wants to run out of that 813 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: that inside outside zone. Maybe he's playing on those downs, 814 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: but that's what his skill set is at this point 815 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: in his career, is not the rest of pastor remind 816 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: you of anybody that you played against in your career 817 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 1: or playing, or you've seen or watched. I mean, yeah, 818 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: every one technique that you ever well does he remind 819 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: you of? Like those remember there the Pat Williams. Now, 820 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: he's not that, he's not that big. Those dudes were 821 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: giants into it. And by the way, you remember they 822 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: played a different system. They played the three four notes, 823 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: so they are zero knows, head up a bunch every 824 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: once in a while with tilt on a on a 825 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: on a shade. Pat Winds was a big man. That 826 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: was a big man. Sometimes he was too big. He liked, 827 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: he liked. But yeah, so and it's still early. And 828 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: this is the other thing we have. You have to 829 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: be careful. Don't overvalue your young players like just because 830 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: and this is what happens on bad teams. Sometimes you 831 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: overvalue because you don't have that much talent. So a 832 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 1: guy that might be just average on other teams looks 833 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: even better and you really got it. So you have 834 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: to you have to look at your talent base, not 835 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: just against the guys you have in your locker room, 836 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: looking across the league measure like I liken that to 837 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: the NBA. You see a guy sitting on the end 838 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: of the bench and he's the twelfth man, and then 839 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: for some reason, because of an injury, he gets thrust 840 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: into the starting lineup and has to play. And he 841 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: goes for twenty two and six assists in five five rebounds, 842 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: and you go, oh, man, you should play more. Why 843 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: doesn't he play well? He had the play. That's not 844 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: what you get at him on a normal basis. He 845 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: had the play, was forced to play. I think you're 846 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: talking about the exact same type of scenario. These guys 847 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,760 Speaker 1: are forced to play tempered a bit because you're comparing 848 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: him to what you have on the field instead of 849 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: what the rest of the league has. Let's h we 850 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: gotta take a time out here real quick. 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I know you 922 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: guys will vote, right, Pete, you already you already got 923 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: yourself on the ballot as a as a solo. I mean, 924 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell. It's amazing, isn't it. 925 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 1: And maybe you guys don't have a big fan base. 926 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I mean, for 927 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 1: as JPS, JP is going down your pathway, Pete, if 928 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: it's good for me, it's good for me. Well, clearly 929 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: he did something like that, So I mean, who you 930 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: should be proud of you. I am proud of him. 931 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm learning from the best, Pete. And then if the 932 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: show wins. I accept this on or on behalf of everybody, 933 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: even though I nominated myself as the solo guy. Whatever, man, whatever, 934 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: it's good like when gets in the Hall, he's gonna 935 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: forget about everyone's right, there's no doubt who people who. 936 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: You know, Mike Fani used to call me Pete price 937 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: Go because I was all about I when Tony gets 938 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame. No, he's gonna be but cll I, 939 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: you know that's not true. I know so what But 940 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: it was true that I'm price Goo. Yes, were you admitted? Yeah, 941 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: you admitaged everybody. It's good. You have not rubbed off 942 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: of me that far yet. JP. You got me to 943 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: talk about the draft earlier this year, So that was 944 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: a big staff you you got. You need to admit that. 945 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: You know, at some point, playing for draft position is 946 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: smarter than winning games. So you got me there. I 947 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: got you to admit you're a member of the media. Now, 948 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: well that was last year. Yeah, I brought you down. 949 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: I broke you down. It's a process. It's a process 950 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: I'll never get to if it's good for me. It's 951 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: good for me, though I will never get that far. Oh, 952 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't know about that's that's that's a bridge too 953 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: far for me. Let me ask this. Let me ask 954 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 1: you this. If you're waiting at the airport for luggage 955 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: to come out, and you're would you you see somebody 956 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: whose luggage doesn't come out? Aren't you better and happier 957 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: because yours came out rather than theirs instead of you 958 00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: being in their positions? What? Yes? Just say yes, Tony? Yes? 959 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: Does that? What does that have to do with anything, Pete? 960 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: Because it's always look you, somebody's misfortune is bad for them, 961 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: but you'd rather be them than you. Okay, when I 962 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: got COVID, I wasn't wishing you were laying in that. 963 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,760 Speaker 1: I see you. It's not me that's got aggressive. Quick 964 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: happened there? Oh my goodness, went there? Evin? When you 965 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: heard I was now because I got it? Are you 966 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: telling me that when I was in the I c 967 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: you having COVID? You're like, yes, not, But why you 968 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: were in that? I see you? You must have wished 969 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: something on me, because I got it. Like a couple 970 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 1: of months later, you did something. We just escalated quickly 971 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,919 Speaker 1: from luggage to COVID. What in the world happened, Pete? Yeah, 972 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,760 Speaker 1: I didn't do it. I know the whole piece example 973 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,720 Speaker 1: was a dumb one. Is the point I was making 974 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: JP understood it that went right over your head is 975 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 1: I'd rather not stand there for twenty five minutes waiting 976 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 1: on my luggage. I'd rather get my luggage first and 977 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: get the hell out of there. And you'd rather be 978 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: somebody else rather than you. If somebody has to wait, 979 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: you'd rather be somebody else than correct, you're not hoping, 980 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 1: You're not hoping harm on somebody else. That's not what 981 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: I said. That's what I said. Good. He said, it's 982 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: good for me. It's good for me, meaning who cares 983 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 1: about everyone else? Now? Am I happy my stuff comes 984 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: out at last? I can get the heck out of 985 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: the airport. Yes, but I'm not wishing going stuck out. 986 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 1: You're not wishing, but you're glad yours came out. That 987 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,879 Speaker 1: it's more important to you for yours to come out 988 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: than if the guys comes out that you don't know, 989 00:55:55,080 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: true or false. We're happy everyone else's stuck there and 990 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 1: you're gone. WHOA, I mean, I'd be happy. It's it's 991 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: much better for me if my stuff got camp came 992 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 1: out and they were stuck rather than if I'm stuck 993 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 1: and their stuff came out. That's all I'm saying. That's true, 994 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 1: it's all, it's all factual. Let's think about it over 995 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: this time. Yes, so you're saying, would you rather in 996 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,240 Speaker 1: the super Bowl play good and lose the super Bowl 997 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 1: or play poorly and win the Super Bowl? Do I 998 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: get paid? If I play well? You get paid. That 999 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 1: you have a contract, get paid. 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T I A Bank 1063 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: is the division of t I A A f SP 1064 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: remember fd I C and the official bank of the 1065 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. At the end of the day, you know, 1066 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,919 Speaker 1: when you're in a community that I love, I really 1067 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: do it. I mean you're talking about you know, you're 1068 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: talking about family, You're talking about a lot of things. 1069 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: You know. So I'm in a community that I that 1070 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: I truly love the people here. You know, we have 1071 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: an owner that wants to win. I think that's awesome. 1072 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, um, you know, he wants 1073 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,080 Speaker 1: to win, and he and and and and that's there 1074 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: is no mistake about it. And when you go out 1075 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 1: and you're going up your car with you're going to 1076 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: a convenience store, so you're going out to dinner, Um, 1077 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: you know there's a scent of you know, you want 1078 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: to hang your head. It's embarrassing. I mean, you know 1079 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: I feel that way, you know at times. And the 1080 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 1: only thing I have to rely on to make sure 1081 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: I can walk around and be a good example is 1082 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: to know that I bought my aspon, that I've done 1083 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 1: everything I possibly can to make sure that I am 1084 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: doing my job at the best of my ability to 1085 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: try to win football games. Head coach Doug Maron on 1086 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: a conference call today discussing the remainder of the season 1087 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: five games to go and welcome into the second hour 1088 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 1: of Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Vaselli. 1089 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: The big news of the day the change at general 1090 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 1: manager Dave Caldwell out. About five thirty yesterday, the announcement 1091 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: came down from Jaguars owner shot Con that Dave Caldwell 1092 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: had been relieved of his duties. They'll get a new 1093 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: general manager and twenty twenty one, Trent and Bulky will 1094 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: be the interim GM. The director of player personnel for 1095 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: the Jaguars currently, he was hired here in January. Also, 1096 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: shot Kan said that head coach jug Maron and the 1097 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: staff are safe through the twenty season. So that answer 1098 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: that you just heard from Maron today was about how 1099 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: the approach things down the stretch the final five games 1100 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: of the season. Of course, yesterday the Jaguars dropped their 1101 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: tenth consecutive game, a single season franchise record, twenty five 1102 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: as the final score, and the Cleveland Browns got the victory. 1103 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Pete Prescot Tony Boselli back with us now, and you know, 1104 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: that's that's what it is, new GM coming head coach 1105 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 1: that has five games to go in this season, and 1106 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: then who knows from there. That's a lot of change 1107 01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: coming up, but the change has begun. Tony. Yeah, I 1108 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: mean I think we all knew where it was coming. Um, 1109 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: it's a tough position for Doug to be in UM 1110 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: because you're you know, you're tied in the GM. You're 1111 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: trying to build this together. I think a lot of 1112 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 1: people were surprised that they got the year after last 1113 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 1: year that they were retained, and they were I think 1114 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: they were hoping they could get some things turned around. 1115 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: Really tough year to do it. If you look at 1116 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: COVID and the guys off the out and everything else, 1117 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 1: UM and and at the end of the day, they 1118 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: just didn't get the quarterback right. They thought that mits 1119 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: you could be the guy. I think everyone pretty much 1120 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: now understands that you need to go make up, go 1121 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 1: find a quarterback to be the franchise guy. So um, 1122 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 1: it's never good. It's never fun. And I think it's 1123 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 1: hard also on Doug of the staff now because you 1124 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: don't want to articulate it or say it out loud. 1125 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: But I think they know what's coming. I mean Doug, 1126 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean he said it as much he goes. I've 1127 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: been in this business a long time. It's never fun. 1128 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 1: It's not good. And now you just have to be 1129 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: a professional, and I think you will and you have 1130 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 1: to play it out and you gotta get guys to 1131 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: play hard and you're always audition for your next job. 1132 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Um and uh, and I think that's how you have 1133 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: to approach it, whether you're a coach or a player. Uh. 1134 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, whatever you do is gonna be on tape 1135 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: and it's going to stick with you. And we are 1136 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: a part of your story. So I think that's what 1137 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 1: you go out and play with pride and and coach 1138 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: with pride and coach hard because that's who they are. 1139 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: I think they've shown that this year. And uh. And 1140 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: then as far as the GM, now it's time to 1141 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 1: start a search and go find out who who's who's 1142 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna lead the organization on the football side for the 1143 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Jackson Jaguars. Yeah. And that's the timing again because of 1144 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 1: all the circumstances around the league. If there had probably 1145 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: been no firings and general manners until now, then they 1146 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 1: probably would have waited until after the season. But I 1147 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 1: think that's fed up the time table and and right team. 1148 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: So I mean, look, this team needs change, it needs overhaul. 1149 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: It needs to change from the top all the way down. 1150 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 1: And and I think the coaching staff is going to 1151 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 1: change as well. And and uh, it's the right thing 1152 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: to do. It's time, and I think the fans are 1153 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: and I'm sure JP when we get to some of 1154 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 1: their comments, they'll agree. By the way, I was trying 1155 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: to put together to see if we could get a 1156 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 1: roster full of X Jaguars who were still playing, and 1157 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 1: see if we could fill a full two team and 1158 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: see how they would do metched up against this team. 1159 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: They and and I'm having a hard time with some 1160 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Maybe you guys can remember somebody. If you did, 1161 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: they'd be they'd probably be a four or five point favorite. 1162 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 1: The defensive front Tony Tyson, Campbell and Cockway and and 1163 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: Um and Clay and then Fowler. You could play them 1164 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: wherever because I didn't have a lot of linebackers, but 1165 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 1: secondary would be boy A Ramsey, Mike Hilton, uh Gibson 1166 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: and Ronnie Harrison. Wow, now I can't remember. Now, there 1167 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 1: aren't a lot of linebackers that could play next to Um. 1168 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you have a middle linebacker 1169 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 1: if I can remember, I couldn't remember. I'm just doing 1170 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 1: this off the top of my head. But you'd have 1171 01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 1: either Folds probably Folds throwing to Alan Robinson, Alan Lazard 1172 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 1: and Mercedes Lewis would be a tight end, and then 1173 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 1: the offensive line is troubling, you'd have Sam Young remember him, 1174 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: he was there for a while. Beat them, beat them, 1175 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 1: and with new Ski. There's three. I couldn't think of 1176 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: two other ones, but I'm sure that I was just 1177 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 1: doing this on the fly. Was Austin Pastor right now? 1178 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Is he around Austin Pastor? No? But I'm sure we 1179 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: can find two. Honestly. What a lot of the point 1180 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 1: is there's a lot of really good ex Jaguar players 1181 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, who are no longer on the roster. 1182 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 1: And granted I thought the Fowler was a bit of 1183 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: a problem when he was there. We know of that. Um, 1184 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 1: he never lived up to the hype when he was 1185 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 1: a Jackuvial, good football player, not a great pass rushure. 1186 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 1: It was never worked. You know, he got hurt. Remember 1187 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 1: he first training camp, he got her first practice, he 1188 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 1: got hurt, right, and remember he had some all field 1189 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 1: stuff here as well, correct, uh, Jalen Ramsey, that was 1190 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 1: a deal they made. Should they have made it? Would 1191 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 1: you have made it? Do you still look back on 1192 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: it and say it was a good deal? Calais Campbell 1193 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 1: because of money, Well, this team had money and they 1194 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: didn't want to spend money on an older guy. I 1195 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: get it, and cock Way they didn't want to pay 1196 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: him the money. But again it goes back to what 1197 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying. There are players, good football players out there 1198 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,479 Speaker 1: that would have could have been on this team, and 1199 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 1: they chose to go in a different direction. And now 1200 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: this is why it's happening. And there are reasons why, Tony. 1201 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying there aren't reasons and warn't warranted reasons. Yeah, 1202 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to go after the fact and say, 1203 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, but you know this person could have been 1204 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 1: or not or should have been, or you know, wrong 1205 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 1: direction was taken with that individual. But I think each 1206 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: of them has their own story too that you could 1207 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: go and dissect. And probably some are probably clear that 1208 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 1: maybe the move shouldn't have been, but some I think 1209 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 1: we'd still end up saying, um to let them go 1210 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 1: in And you know a lot of them are right 1211 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 1: moves when they made the move. If you're giving me 1212 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: two ones and something, an extra pit another pick for 1213 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, I'm trading him to do it because he 1214 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: was not It wasn't this, he wasn't playing like a 1215 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,280 Speaker 1: number one and number one corner when he was there 1216 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 1: at the end, he just wasn't good player. But did he, 1217 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, did you ever think he 1218 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: was playing up to what he should have been for 1219 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:41,719 Speaker 1: that team? Ever? Ever? For the end in the last 1220 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 1: couple I mean, well, it's uh nineteen, you mean, I mean, 1221 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 1: but even nineteen. I mean, look at the game he 1222 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: had where the outburst, where the outburst happened against the 1223 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. He had a great game, was playing against Theodore, 1224 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 1: but he always messed up well against Hopkins. That was 1225 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,559 Speaker 1: one where he always played. I mean, he's by the way. 1226 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,280 Speaker 1: The problem with that situation, Pete, wasn't just that moment. 1227 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 1: There was obviously a lot of build up to get 1228 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 1: to that moment. And what you have to do is 1229 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 1: go back and analyze it. Could the organization done anything 1230 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: better to make sure the best player you had drafted 1231 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: in umpteen years was happy and wanted to be a 1232 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 1: part of your organization. And so at the end, yes, 1233 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 1: I would have traded and for the two twos. My question, 1234 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 1: and as close as we are the organization, I'm not 1235 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 1: pretty to everything. My question would be, did you die 1236 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,640 Speaker 1: st I think this is a critical it's you know, 1237 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: it's when changes happened, or you go through a process, 1238 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: or you go after a project, or you go do something. 1239 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: I think it's self evaluation and kind of doing a retrospect. 1240 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 1: It was important what happened that got you to that 1241 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,680 Speaker 1: point where your best player doesn't want to be around you. 1242 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: By the way, we could coax puzz loves Me out 1243 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: of retirement and make him the line there that we're 1244 01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 1: missing that outside of doing the silly exercise, because it's 1245 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,560 Speaker 1: not a silly exercise. He just goes to show you 1246 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talent still playing in the league 1247 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 1: that's not there now, and it's been and it's been 1248 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:12,880 Speaker 1: here and it's left for different reasons. Yes, Okay, starters 1249 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 1: starters on other teams that would be starting here too, well, 1250 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: I mean maybe yeah, maybe. I mean they traded Ronnie Harrison, okay, 1251 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 1: which one of the guys that I just training Ronnie Harrison, 1252 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 1: because he wasn't playing at the starting caliber football. Correct, 1253 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 1: that's why he played one staff yesterday, by the way, Okay, 1254 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 1: aside from Harrison, which one of these guys wouldn't be 1255 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:47,839 Speaker 1: starting in Jacksonville right now, and go way, Llo starting 1256 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 1: Jackson BLeague Jackson. Now he's starting for the Eagles, or 1257 01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 1: at least he's in the road. Uh. Dante Fowler starting, 1258 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: Uh boy a, he didn't play great at the end. 1259 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:09,320 Speaker 1: Start right now this team right now? Are you gonna 1260 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 1: pay him that much money? So that's why let's stop, actually, 1261 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 1: cause I think it's a silly exercise because some of 1262 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 1: the reasons you're talking about, we're taking away the money 1263 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: out of the equation. Ramsey, you can't do that like Hilton, yes, 1264 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 1: uh and Gibson and Harrison. Look, I know I'm not 1265 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,680 Speaker 1: enamor with either one of those two back there. But 1266 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 1: so before we go to break and do the social calls, 1267 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: let's real quick we have like I think, three mena shape, 1268 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 1: how many jobs are gonna be open? And let's go 1269 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 1: to it really quick, because now, well, general managers, there's 1270 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 1: four right now, right, there's four open. Let's talk about 1271 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,719 Speaker 1: head coaches. They're open. There are there have been three 1272 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 1: guys fired so far this year. Right, assuming that those 1273 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 1: three spots are either gonna be filled by the guys 1274 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: that are in them or they're gonna be which I 1275 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 1: don't think is the case, there's gonna be new blood 1276 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 1: in those three job, how many other jobs that Jack's 1277 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 1: will assigne for right now are gonna be open because 1278 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: that's what you're competing for, And in my opinion, there's 1279 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 1: a finite of people who you really want to go 1280 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 1: after to be your head coach, um, And so if 1281 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 1: you look at it and let's do it quickly, we'll 1282 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 1: go to AMC East. The Jets are gonna have a 1283 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:23,679 Speaker 1: new a new guy. That's four, Jeff Um. That's it there, 1284 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 1: n the hold on. Let's do the f C North Pittsburgh, 1285 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 1: No Baltimore, No Cincinnati, no Cleveland. Okay, all right, let's 1286 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 1: go to the West a f C West Chargers. I 1287 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:45,599 Speaker 1: say yes. Maybe, I say yes, Um, Denver, I don't 1288 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,600 Speaker 1: think so anymore. Maybe kan Cy No Oakland No, So 1289 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 1: you're five uh in the a f C South Tennessee, 1290 01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 1: No Houston. We've already added uh indian A Jackson will 1291 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 1: Let's just sue like, okay, you're at six, um, fine, yes, 1292 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 1: but without Jackson's five five without Jacksonville set them aside, 1293 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 1: because we're going out. We might have to go after it. 1294 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 1: If you go on the NFC, Atlanta is already on 1295 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,680 Speaker 1: the list. Carolina is a no, Tampa's a no. And 1296 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 1: NFC East. I think Philly is gonna have a new 1297 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:29,360 Speaker 1: coach probably. Um, that gives you six Giants. No Redskins, 1298 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:34,680 Speaker 1: no Dallas No. Um. In the North Chicago, I think 1299 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:40,640 Speaker 1: we'll have a new coach at seven. Um, yeah, that's eight. No, 1300 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: I didn't put Detroit. Oh yeah, Detroit wasn't there. Sorry, 1301 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 1: And and um, that's it by Green Bay. Now you're 1302 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:55,680 Speaker 1: at seven. And then the West Arizona, no, Seattle, no 1303 01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco, so you're at that's seven jobs. They're most 1304 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,439 Speaker 1: likely going to be open besides the Jaguars. So now 1305 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 1: you have to start thinking if the Jaguars end up 1306 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,639 Speaker 1: making a move, which we'll wait and see, I think 1307 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 1: you have the higher GM they're gonna make a move. 1308 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 1: Are there eight head coaches? You said you're enamored without 1309 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 1: or candidates that you're enamored without therapy. Uh. Here, I'll 1310 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:28,040 Speaker 1: give you a couple. Arthur Smith Okay, that's interesting to 1311 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 1: me from Eric Enemy. Okay, Arthur smithsit Tennessee. By the way, 1312 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 1: thank you's done a great job. Robert Salem, Robert Robert 1313 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,599 Speaker 1: salt is going to be a head coach somewhere next 1314 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 1: yearn um. I thought firing left, which maybe get interviewed, 1315 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 1: but now they afterwards happened this year. I think Brady's 1316 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 1: going to torpedo him and that's the end of that. Yeah, 1317 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't think you will Joe Brady, Joe Brady. But 1318 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,559 Speaker 1: in the league and you hire a thirty you know 1319 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,519 Speaker 1: is I mean, that's the thing they're gonna He didn't 1320 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,679 Speaker 1: get interviewed. What about Staley the defense daily, the defensive 1321 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 1: coordinator in uh with the charge with the Rams. It's 1322 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 1: a good year. He's done a really good job. I'm 1323 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 1: not saying he hasn't. I'm just saying I think this 1324 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,320 Speaker 1: is the first year coordinating at any level. He was 1325 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: a linebacker last year. Yeah, I mean that's you're you're 1326 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 1: you're making the point. There aren't a lot of it's like, 1327 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 1: it's not I mean you have to start looking around, 1328 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 1: started thinking, Okay, if there's eight jobs and Daniels good, 1329 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,680 Speaker 1: it will be in the mix again. But he never 1330 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: takes the job. He always backs out right, Yeah, because 1331 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna be he's waiting for Bill to give him 1332 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 1: the Patriot job. But McDaniels is a candidate. There's no 1333 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:56,200 Speaker 1: question about what about what about Matt Eberflus, I know 1334 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 1: nothing about him outside of the India having a good 1335 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 1: defense this year. I've were good things for people. I 1336 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 1: talked about them, but no idea, all right, we can, 1337 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: we can. Contin You're right, there's gonna be seven or 1338 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 1: eight jobs and there might be five or six guys 1339 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 1: to fill them. Yeah, I'm just saying it's interesting. I mean, 1340 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 1: that's a. It's a. There's a And that's why you 1341 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 1: have to get in front of this thing. If you're 1342 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, if that's the move you made, because it's 1343 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,880 Speaker 1: gonna be finite of the like, there's gonna be competitions 1344 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 1: for the guy you want. Now, then you have to 1345 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,679 Speaker 1: start thinking outside the box. Is there a college coach 1346 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 1: you'd go after? Is there a guy like would you 1347 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,679 Speaker 1: go make a run at Brian Kelly? What about Urban 1348 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Meyer or Urban Meyer? Would you make a run at 1349 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: one of those guys and empty the you know, checkbook? 1350 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,200 Speaker 1: Would you go and say, hey, we need a quarterback guy, 1351 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: So maybe I'll go try to lure Lincoln Riley out 1352 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,640 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma because they're drafting a young quarterback. I mean, 1353 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 1: those are the type of things you have to be 1354 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 1: thinking about because as far as assistance that are hot, 1355 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 1: which is always dangerous because you know those are gonna 1356 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,320 Speaker 1: flame out and not have success because they can't make 1357 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 1: the jump from coordinator to head coach. And if we 1358 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 1: are struggling to name names right now, well it's an 1359 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 1: interesting dilemma. You find yourself and you have to figure 1360 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 1: out who's the next set coaches and it's to be 1361 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,640 Speaker 1: competitive and you gotta get started. Dance afty. All right, 1362 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 1: let's take a time out. 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We'll get to that coming up. 1422 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 1: Let's get to the social questions. We put out the 1423 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 1: bat signal early in the day and here's the best 1424 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 1: we've come up with. And on Monday at Sam I 1425 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 1: Am Sheer thirteen. What's the benefit in getting rid of 1426 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,040 Speaker 1: the g M a little early? And what can you 1427 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:40,760 Speaker 1: tell us of the guy that's going to be the 1428 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 1: interim GM. Well, we've we've gone over why I mean 1429 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,160 Speaker 1: all show, I mean get in front of it. You 1430 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be competitive. We just talked through the 1431 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 1: openings on the head coaching side that are gonna be there. 1432 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,439 Speaker 1: We think there's seven day jobs will be open and 1433 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be competitive there. And then the flip 1434 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,559 Speaker 1: side of that is is you want to get the 1435 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,519 Speaker 1: GM in place, in my opinion, so that guy's picking 1436 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 1: your quarterback, um, and so to do that and to 1437 01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,880 Speaker 1: be ready to enter the sweep stakes for all these 1438 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,160 Speaker 1: open jobs and trying to get your guy, you want 1439 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,559 Speaker 1: to be ready right at the end of the season. 1440 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: So I think Seangahn wanted to get in front of it. 1441 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,600 Speaker 1: It was the right thing this time. And again you're competing. 1442 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,599 Speaker 1: You compete on the field, you're competing for for guys 1443 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 1: to come in and take over that job. And I 1444 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 1: think it's an attractive job. I'm biased, probably a little bit, 1445 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,479 Speaker 1: but I do think it's an attractive job for a 1446 01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 1: lot of reasons. No state income tax big part of it. Uh, 1447 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 1: you got a ton of draft picks, tons of draft picks, 1448 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: draft capital and cap room. You give somebody that they 1449 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 1: should be able to turn that team around. Particularly with 1450 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,280 Speaker 1: one is number two overall pick. That means you're gonna 1451 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 1: get a quarterback that means you're gonna get one of 1452 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 1: the two top quarterbacks in the draft, and you hope 1453 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 1: that that guy ends up being a franchise guy for 1454 01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 1: a long time. But if you can't turn it around 1455 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,639 Speaker 1: with what they have available in terms of draft capital 1456 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 1: and tap room, then you got a problem. And by 1457 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,000 Speaker 1: the way, you have an owner that's willing to spend 1458 01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,000 Speaker 1: and is somewhat patient to make this thing go the 1459 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 1: right way. Tony, Yeah, I know I argue that. And 1460 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: and the other part of the question was Trent Balky 1461 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:23,400 Speaker 1: is the intern GM? Yeah he is. No, I'm saying 1462 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,760 Speaker 1: he's not. If somebody asked if he's no, they were 1463 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,559 Speaker 1: asking what type of guy is he? Who is he? 1464 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 1: He's a former guy GM for the forty Niners, was 1465 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 1: there when they made the Super Bowl runs, and now 1466 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,600 Speaker 1: he's a personnel guy that was brought in this year. No, 1467 01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get the job either. Pete 1468 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,200 Speaker 1: our next question at Kane's nine oh four when the 1469 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,280 Speaker 1: new GM comes into coaching staff, interested in who Pete 1470 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,040 Speaker 1: and Tony would like to see get the job. Give 1471 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:52,080 Speaker 1: me Joseph Brady from Carolina hashtag Pete for general manager. Oh, 1472 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 1: that's a great hashtag, and Tony, don't worry, I'd hire 1473 01:23:54,920 --> 01:24:04,439 Speaker 1: you to be my assistant general matter wanted. You're a 1474 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,600 Speaker 1: still honor you every every year with your Ring of 1475 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:13,960 Speaker 1: Honor name up there, which is went through Joe Brady 1476 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be a hot name. And I do I 1477 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,600 Speaker 1: think you do have to consider. Um, you have to 1478 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,439 Speaker 1: consider like you're you're gonna go draft a young quarterback 1479 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,679 Speaker 1: and you need someone who can develop that young guy. 1480 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,880 Speaker 1: And so like I think, like to me, the safest 1481 01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,439 Speaker 1: guy for a head coach who I think it would 1482 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:33,120 Speaker 1: be really good. And maybe I'm biased, but I think 1483 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,800 Speaker 1: Robert Sala will be a unbelievable head coach in this 1484 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 1: league for a long time. And you saw the day 1485 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,800 Speaker 1: the commented uh uh Sherman came out and said about him, 1486 01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 1: kind of giving him an endorsement as such a great coach. 1487 01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,600 Speaker 1: And you look what he's done with that defense or 1488 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:52,000 Speaker 1: top five defense with every player known the mankind being out. Um. 1489 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,400 Speaker 1: So I think he's really good head coach. But the 1490 01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,640 Speaker 1: question is, if you were to interview Robert Sala and 1491 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,719 Speaker 1: you want him, like you're considering for the head coach, 1492 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,519 Speaker 1: the most important question pete for him is tell me 1493 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,280 Speaker 1: you're playing for a working quarterback. Tell me who's running 1494 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 1: your offense. Who's running the offense? And if you can't 1495 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 1: answer that, then this isn't the right job. Now. If 1496 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: you can, I love it. I think Robert, I'm with you. 1497 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 1: I think Robert sal is going to be a hell 1498 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 1: of a head coach. But is the cell in Jacksonville 1499 01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:25,240 Speaker 1: tougher because he's from the gust Bradley tree. From a 1500 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:29,200 Speaker 1: perception standpoint, yes, I think that's right, But he's really 1501 01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,439 Speaker 1: from the Shanahan tree. Now, if you look at it 1502 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:35,919 Speaker 1: from a coordinary stand coordinator, coordinator, him being a coordinator, 1503 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: that's a and so if you look at from that standpoint, 1504 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,600 Speaker 1: it's really Shanahan. I think he's learned a lot from that. 1505 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 1: You look at his defense, similar principles but completely different 1506 01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 1: styles at the end of the day, and I think 1507 01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,639 Speaker 1: highly of Gus so he didn't work out his head coach. 1508 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,439 Speaker 1: But you ask people in the league. One of the 1509 01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 1: best coordinators in the NFL um from on the defense 1510 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 1: side of the ball. So I think from a perception standpoint, 1511 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,080 Speaker 1: Pete because that's what people know. And and in fairness 1512 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 1: to the fans of Jackson. They're not following the in 1513 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 1: detail and who's doing what and how they operate and 1514 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,960 Speaker 1: what he does and how he's thought of amongst you know, 1515 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,479 Speaker 1: owners and people around the league. And he is one 1516 01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:17,080 Speaker 1: of the higher regarded guys UH as far as young coaches. 1517 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 1: So I think he's he's getting a job this year. 1518 01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,640 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. I think he'll be a 1519 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:25,800 Speaker 1: great head coach. But yes, the first question is, Um, 1520 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,920 Speaker 1: what's your offensive plan? Because if you don't, because we're 1521 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,519 Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback and you better have a detailed plan 1522 01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 1: of who it is who's gonna be running that side 1523 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 1: of the ball. And then the second thing I think 1524 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 1: you'd have to have on this conversation both internally and 1525 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,599 Speaker 1: maybe even with him if you wanted to interview him, 1526 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,840 Speaker 1: is this the best job for you because of some 1527 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 1: the uphill battle you're gonna face from day one from 1528 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 1: a perception standpoint, Arthur Smith is another name. Um. Done 1529 01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 1: a great job with Townehill, done a great job with 1530 01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:55,400 Speaker 1: that offense, the creative, big play guys, UH, And he 1531 01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,759 Speaker 1: would be a guy that he'd be on the radar, 1532 01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,320 Speaker 1: and I think he should be on the radar. You 1533 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,519 Speaker 1: talk about thing a young quarterback. I think he could 1534 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,840 Speaker 1: develop a young quarterback and would come up with a 1535 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:08,160 Speaker 1: system to cater to that young quarterback. So plus, um, 1536 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: you might not have to pay him as much. He's 1537 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: rich already. His dad his dad. You can't say in 1538 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 1: one breath we have an owner who doesn't care about 1539 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 1: he'll spend the money. And then you say part of 1540 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:26,040 Speaker 1: them that's a joke because he and I always say, 1541 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 1: and he's the richest assistant coach in the league because 1542 01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 1: his dad owns fed X and and there is actually 1543 01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,720 Speaker 1: a link there. Back in the day when Jackson was 1544 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,559 Speaker 1: in the push to get the expansion team, we used 1545 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,679 Speaker 1: to go to all these meetings. Well, his dad, fred Smith, 1546 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 1: was always trying to get a franchise from Memphis. So 1547 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 1: there's old time links there. And he's done a really 1548 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 1: good job. I give a lot of credit. There's no 1549 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 1: doubt about all. Right. Our next question from Samuel of Duval. 1550 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 1: For eight years, Tony defended Dave Caldwell's picks from Luke 1551 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,240 Speaker 1: jokel to Zane Beatles. Is he finally going to apologize 1552 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:04,040 Speaker 1: for the false new narrative now that he's gone. First 1553 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,280 Speaker 1: of all, let let's be clear here. I never the 1554 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,680 Speaker 1: Zame Beatles. I'm not sure he's not. He's not a 1555 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:12,160 Speaker 1: draft pick. That he was a free agent signing, and 1556 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,599 Speaker 1: I never defended him. If you go back to when 1557 01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,679 Speaker 1: we signed you, did you defended you defended Joo though, 1558 01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,600 Speaker 1: So let's be clear. So the Joko again, let's go 1559 01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 1: back and that let's not have revisionist history. One of 1560 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,839 Speaker 1: the worst drafts in modern history for top ten picks, 1561 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,120 Speaker 1: and so everyone Pete, you included at the time, I 1562 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 1: thought that was the right pick, a number two, you 1563 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 1: could argue. I actually, if you go back to the 1564 01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 1: actual time of the pick, I thought we should try 1565 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,720 Speaker 1: to go get the answer because I thought he was better. 1566 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,760 Speaker 1: But there's all kinds of questions around his age and 1567 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,960 Speaker 1: maybe some injury history and everything else. And it's not 1568 01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,639 Speaker 1: like he's been great as a pro either better than Joko, 1569 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,120 Speaker 1: but not a great pick. So that was a terrible draft. 1570 01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,599 Speaker 1: My defense of it was it was the first pick, 1571 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of options, and now that he 1572 01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,400 Speaker 1: was our left tackle, he had athletic ability, but I said, 1573 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,600 Speaker 1: for day he has to it stronger, more powerful, and 1574 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,599 Speaker 1: so I don't think that I don't think Pete. Even 1575 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,719 Speaker 1: looking back, you'd killed Dave Caldwell for that pick based 1576 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 1: on that draft. No, but he could have taken Lane Johnson. 1577 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:15,960 Speaker 1: He went for fair enough. I'm not saying Johnson's obviously 1578 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,160 Speaker 1: a better place. I I'd like Ziggy. I'll be Ozmath. 1579 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 1: I like Ziggy Ansa too, But there were there was 1580 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,920 Speaker 1: there were concerns about his age, and as it play 1581 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,880 Speaker 1: it out, he's broken down a little bit as he's 1582 01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,800 Speaker 1: got a little older. And by the way I think 1583 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:32,439 Speaker 1: everyone understands, also, we've been doing this show for a 1584 01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,599 Speaker 1: long time. Which way am I going to leave Pete? 1585 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,240 Speaker 1: As far as are this organization that I'm a part of, 1586 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,400 Speaker 1: and I've been a part of sin if I have 1587 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:43,880 Speaker 1: to lead, which way am I leading? I'm gonna lead 1588 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 1: to support the players and try to give them the 1589 01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,400 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt more than I would because if 1590 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,840 Speaker 1: you listen to me on Westwood One and what I 1591 01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,120 Speaker 1: say talk about teams I have nothing to do with. 1592 01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 1: It's a different a little bit of a different story, 1593 01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,479 Speaker 1: and so um listen, I have represent visions history. I 1594 01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,880 Speaker 1: never said anything about Zame Beatles, and yes did I 1595 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,720 Speaker 1: to friend Luke Joko One. I also felt sorry for 1596 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:06,479 Speaker 1: Luke Luke joke, because I thought the comparisons that were 1597 01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:10,400 Speaker 1: put on him from day one were unfair. He did 1598 01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 1: look like By the way, there are two guys on 1599 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:17,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars roster right now who were first round picks 1600 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:24,799 Speaker 1: in that draft. M hmmm, who are you tell? Wow? 1601 01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:32,479 Speaker 1: E J. Hayden Yeah and Tyler Eiffert. Yeah, how about that? 1602 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,599 Speaker 1: And the best player of that entire draft is DeAndre 1603 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:41,559 Speaker 1: Hopkins for the first round. He was late first round, 1604 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 1: wasn't he correct? He went screwed that one up. Yes, 1605 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,759 Speaker 1: that's true, all right, So you're with a bad draft 1606 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,240 Speaker 1: all the way around, and the top ten was really bad. 1607 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,599 Speaker 1: Think about that. Tavon Austin went in the top ten 1608 01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,760 Speaker 1: and you're right though, By the way, a Johnson was 1609 01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,400 Speaker 1: the guy that everyone thought. I mean, now you take him, 1610 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,280 Speaker 1: but back then he was a right tackle and very 1611 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,320 Speaker 1: few people wanted to take him. That thought he was 1612 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,400 Speaker 1: a franchise guy at the time, so they took a 1613 01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,719 Speaker 1: spinning top instead. Said it was the wrong pick, There's 1614 01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But remember the pass rusher in 1615 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,800 Speaker 1: that draft ended up being a bus to Dion Jordan's. Absolutely, 1616 01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,479 Speaker 1: he got to spending multiple times, and uh so, yeah, 1617 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,000 Speaker 1: that pick is there's no defending that pick. It was 1618 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 1: a bad draft and Joco just wasn't very good, even 1619 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:36,760 Speaker 1: though you defended it for four years. You had a 1620 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,759 Speaker 1: soft spot for the kid, admitted I did. He played 1621 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,920 Speaker 1: the same position I thought it was and pet you 1622 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,559 Speaker 1: and I talked about this slightly on air, but a 1623 01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,880 Speaker 1: lot off there. I thought it was wildly unfair of 1624 01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:50,040 Speaker 1: the expectations and everything thrown on him because that's not 1625 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,519 Speaker 1: who he was. That wasn't his makeup, and that was 1626 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,120 Speaker 1: the one thing we said from day one. He did 1627 01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:58,240 Speaker 1: not have the tough guy mental makeup and when they 1628 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,720 Speaker 1: drafted him, that's not who he is. And then they 1629 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,360 Speaker 1: asked him to be something and it was a tough 1630 01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:08,760 Speaker 1: situation as he never asked you for help. Believe that 1631 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,599 Speaker 1: would be We'll move along. Three more questions, next one 1632 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,240 Speaker 1: from at Waka Areena from Data Argentina. Come on, Jaguar 1633 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,559 Speaker 1: is happy hour on Monday is the best day. I 1634 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,400 Speaker 1: see New England losing against the Jets on the seventeenth week, 1635 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,960 Speaker 1: so the division rival doesn't get Lawrence Salutos. I don't 1636 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,240 Speaker 1: see a question there, But what if he what if 1637 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:31,040 Speaker 1: Belichick rested every all it started and didn't start Cam 1638 01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:35,080 Speaker 1: just so the Jets couldn't get Trevor Lawrence. There be 1639 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,320 Speaker 1: an investigation, right, I think the Commission would be involved 1640 01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:44,519 Speaker 1: at that point. Right, But I mean, oh, Garred Stidham 1641 01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 1: is gonna start to get an evaluation on him for 1642 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:51,400 Speaker 1: next year because you're not gonna bring Cam back. Bill. 1643 01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,920 Speaker 1: Bill likes winning too much. You wouldn't do it. What 1644 01:32:54,000 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 1: if his team is six and nine at the time. Yeah, 1645 01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that would be priceless. And the 1646 01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,920 Speaker 1: jack war Jackson would send like Belichick, like bouquets and 1647 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 1: candy and steaks and everything else. Does that happen? Listen, 1648 01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be mad. I'm not gonna be mad 1649 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,280 Speaker 1: to that much. Right now. I will not be mad. Alright. 1650 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,920 Speaker 1: We got Sweeney and uh and um Trevor Lawrence together 1651 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:29,000 Speaker 1: in Jackson. If you're David Daddle Sweeney, why would you 1652 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,880 Speaker 1: leave Clemson where you make ten million dollars a year, 1653 01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,080 Speaker 1: you get every kid you want, and you run the 1654 01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,600 Speaker 1: entire place. Yeah? And does that? Does that? Does he 1655 01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,439 Speaker 1: appeal to the NFL player? Yeah? I don't know. I 1656 01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:42,880 Speaker 1: don't know him well enough to speak the ra you 1657 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,720 Speaker 1: know the ras. Just well, people said the same thing 1658 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,400 Speaker 1: about Pete Carroll. He did pretty good in Seattle, True, 1659 01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:54,920 Speaker 1: he didn't do so well in New England. Nope, let's 1660 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,920 Speaker 1: move along at Devil x Jaguar. Hey, can I get 1661 01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,040 Speaker 1: a birthday shout out on the show today? Well? Happy birthday? 1662 01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,840 Speaker 1: Also you get a happy birthday from JP that matters 1663 01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:06,599 Speaker 1: more than me and Tony giving you one since he's 1664 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:11,639 Speaker 1: solo on all these lists. Here's the rest of the question. Also, 1665 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,680 Speaker 1: what will it take to get this team back to 1666 01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,400 Speaker 1: being relevant? Which quarterback in the draft fits the current 1667 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,360 Speaker 1: players best and gives this team the best chance to 1668 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:22,599 Speaker 1: win next year? Also, do you keep Gruden? I think 1669 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 1: they cleaned. I think they clean house completely. Obviously. The 1670 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,240 Speaker 1: guy who gives you the best chances the best quarterback, 1671 01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,559 Speaker 1: which is Trevor Lawrence. You don't know if you're gonna 1672 01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,840 Speaker 1: be able to be drafted number one, So then if 1673 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,599 Speaker 1: that's not the if you don't get Trevor Lawrence, then 1674 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:41,400 Speaker 1: you get you get Justin Field, who I haven't a 1675 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,920 Speaker 1: couple of games. There's there's a lot of life. There's 1676 01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,840 Speaker 1: some concerns, but there's a lot of like he's not 1677 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the slam He's not the slam dunk guy that that 1678 01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,360 Speaker 1: he sometimes locks on. I think just In and I 1679 01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:56,880 Speaker 1: haven't done a ton of work on him either. Just 1680 01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,800 Speaker 1: in the games I've watched, I think he's sometimes locks 1681 01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,880 Speaker 1: on a little bit. Yeah, a lot of work to 1682 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,720 Speaker 1: be done. That's one thing. You know, whether you have 1683 01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,640 Speaker 1: the first pick or a second pick, you're gonna do 1684 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,920 Speaker 1: a ton of work on both those guys. What would 1685 01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:13,400 Speaker 1: you give up the guard? What would you if you 1686 01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,479 Speaker 1: got the chance to go to one? What would you 1687 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,000 Speaker 1: give up to go up there? Well, Bee, I think 1688 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:19,639 Speaker 1: that goes back. You have to do all the work first, 1689 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,559 Speaker 1: because you have to you have to kind of figure 1690 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,040 Speaker 1: out what's the delta between Lawrence and Fields? How big 1691 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,320 Speaker 1: a delta? Once you determine, once you do, Once you 1692 01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,400 Speaker 1: determine that, then that tells you how much you're willing 1693 01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,720 Speaker 1: to give up to move up? Right? Was there like 1694 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,000 Speaker 1: the delta between Burrow and Herbert? A lot of people 1695 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,360 Speaker 1: thought it was big, and it clearly it's not. It's 1696 01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,759 Speaker 1: not that big, and so you would have been foolish 1697 01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:42,640 Speaker 1: to trade up a bunch, Not that maybe brows a 1698 01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:44,400 Speaker 1: little bit better, but would you give up everything to 1699 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,879 Speaker 1: move up. Put them all in the same Put Lawrence, 1700 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,840 Speaker 1: Burrow and Herbert in the in the basket? Right now? 1701 01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:58,880 Speaker 1: Which one are you taking first rank? Well, you're you're 1702 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:03,679 Speaker 1: assuming Herbert, I mean the Borrow is healthy, right, Um, 1703 01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:11,320 Speaker 1: I would probably go Lawrence one, Burrow too, and Herbert three. Boy, 1704 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,040 Speaker 1: but you you can make a case for going on. 1705 01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,160 Speaker 1: I almost went Laurence Herbert Burrow. I would go Lawrence 1706 01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:25,679 Speaker 1: Herbert Burrow. Now I might go Lawrence Burrow Herbert. That's 1707 01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:29,760 Speaker 1: what I just said, basically following me, thank you all right, 1708 01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:32,200 Speaker 1: you'll be an outstanding you like two or more than 1709 01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:36,920 Speaker 1: all of them anyway, so you'll be a good assistant. 1710 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,080 Speaker 1: Our final question at oodory eleven, I wish the best 1711 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,080 Speaker 1: for Dave Caldwell. He left the Jags with a lot 1712 01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,160 Speaker 1: of young, promising talent and high future draft picks. What 1713 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,439 Speaker 1: are the rules on hiring a GM? Does the Rooney 1714 01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,760 Speaker 1: rule apply? And can they hire someone like Mike Borgonzi 1715 01:36:52,040 --> 01:37:00,400 Speaker 1: right away? The ru rule applies and a yeah, Michael 1716 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,120 Speaker 1: is on the Chiefs right now, Um, working under Beach. 1717 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,720 Speaker 1: And here's what this is what this is, this is 1718 01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,280 Speaker 1: what we do this time of year. It's like, okay, 1719 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:14,559 Speaker 1: which teams are successful and let's go just like you think, 1720 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,640 Speaker 1: whoever just tweeted that has any idea who Mike is 1721 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,880 Speaker 1: or what he does or what his skill set is, 1722 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,360 Speaker 1: could he lead? Could he do? I mean, I mean, 1723 01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,000 Speaker 1: we have no idea. You don't. I mean you you 1724 01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,120 Speaker 1: cover it daily, you don't know. Now you can make 1725 01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:27,880 Speaker 1: some phone calls and find out and get a sense 1726 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:29,720 Speaker 1: of it, but you're also gonna be talking to guys 1727 01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,200 Speaker 1: that know what we're gonna tell you. You You know, you know, 1728 01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:34,640 Speaker 1: probably on the more positive side. But this is what 1729 01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:36,479 Speaker 1: we knew, and this is why you see a lot 1730 01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,960 Speaker 1: of failures in my opinion, Pete, because we lit we 1731 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,720 Speaker 1: stack rank these guys based on what they've done in 1732 01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,120 Speaker 1: a role that is not the role you're hiring them for. 1733 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,559 Speaker 1: And because a team or a system has success, it's 1734 01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,960 Speaker 1: assumed the success. And we've see it at gms, and 1735 01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,960 Speaker 1: we see it at coaches and we've seen it. Just 1736 01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:58,599 Speaker 1: just list all the Belichick guys who fail and everyone 1737 01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,120 Speaker 1: hires them because they think they're Bill Belichick. And by 1738 01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,240 Speaker 1: the way, the biggest misquate those guys make is they 1739 01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,160 Speaker 1: try to be Bill Belichick, where they go. And so 1740 01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,400 Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's where you see a lot of 1741 01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,680 Speaker 1: failures um in this league in the hiring your head 1742 01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,040 Speaker 1: coaches and gms, because it's hard. And I'm not putting, 1743 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:16,439 Speaker 1: I'm not blaming. I'm not saying the owners don't know 1744 01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,320 Speaker 1: what they're doing right. But it's hard. It's a hard 1745 01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,519 Speaker 1: thing to evaluate somebody we're hiring to do a job 1746 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,559 Speaker 1: that they've never done, and you're trying to discern do 1747 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,880 Speaker 1: they have the skill set to lead, because that's the 1748 01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,320 Speaker 1: most important quality. I did send out some text to 1749 01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,120 Speaker 1: guys I know and checked on a few guys and 1750 01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't know Arthur Smith. I just don't. So I 1751 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,640 Speaker 1: wanted to see what kind of guy was and the 1752 01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:40,599 Speaker 1: guys I ask he checked the box. You know, he 1753 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,720 Speaker 1: works his butt off. He's a good football coach. He 1754 01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:44,920 Speaker 1: loves it, you know. And the guy who's entitled, like 1755 01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,240 Speaker 1: you know you're born into that, you might be entitled. 1756 01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,680 Speaker 1: None of that. Zero And Ryan Cowen is another name 1757 01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,160 Speaker 1: because they're gonna be package deals. Think about it that way, Tony, 1758 01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:57,360 Speaker 1: if you hired uh, you know, general manager, he's likely 1759 01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 1: going to bring his own guy in. So Ryan caw 1760 01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,479 Speaker 1: the name that's been mentioned to me from Tennessee. If 1761 01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,080 Speaker 1: he was hired, Uh, he would hire like somebody like 1762 01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:09,479 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith or Adam Peters who's in San Francisco. He 1763 01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,880 Speaker 1: would bring in Robert salom That that that package you 1764 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,680 Speaker 1: gotta look for the package deals. I think in those 1765 01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:19,240 Speaker 1: kind of scenarios. Al Right, guys, that's it for social questions. 1766 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for answering the call today. On Twitter, we're 1767 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,560 Speaker 1: back in a moment. We'll get the not so powerful 1768 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,960 Speaker 1: draft order in touch on the FC South. A little 1769 01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,639 Speaker 1: later around the league as well, we're down the home 1770 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:39,360 Speaker 1: stretch on Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony was 1830 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,639 Speaker 1: Sally glad you're along with us. Let's this is normally 1831 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,640 Speaker 1: the time of the show, we go through the a 1832 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,920 Speaker 1: f C South Power rankings, but I'm gonna go ahead 1833 01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,880 Speaker 1: and make an executive decision that will just show the standings. 1834 01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:35,320 Speaker 1: That's what they are, right, there's that agreement, that's what 1835 01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:39,960 Speaker 1: they are. The Titans one in first place. The Titans. Titans, 1836 01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:43,759 Speaker 1: even though they spool, Yeah, they have a better record. 1837 01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:45,479 Speaker 1: Feat that usually how it works. Do you watch the 1838 01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:49,240 Speaker 1: game yesterday? They destroyed it. I mean come on, I mean, 1839 01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:53,160 Speaker 1: come on, come on see either you have it Tennessee, Indy, Houston, Jacksonville. 1840 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that. Well, maybe the top could change 1841 01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:59,040 Speaker 1: who knows down the last month. But there you have it. 1842 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,120 Speaker 1: That's the a f C South Power rankings. I saved 1843 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,559 Speaker 1: us five minutes there. Let's get now to the not 1844 01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,599 Speaker 1: so powerful rankings for draft order. The Jaguars are officially 1845 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 1: eliminated from postseason contention. I know you're holding out, hope, Tony, 1846 01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,920 Speaker 1: so we can start talking draft a little more. Now, 1847 01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,720 Speaker 1: Let's start with twenty five, and that's where the Rams are. 1848 01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:21,280 Speaker 1: That's where the Jaguars would pick. Um. It's that would 1849 01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,559 Speaker 1: be the divisional round losers. Who knows, if they don't 1850 01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,479 Speaker 1: get in, it could be higher obviously. Uh. And then 1851 01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:28,599 Speaker 1: we'll go to the teams that are four and seven. 1852 01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,559 Speaker 1: That starts at twelve with the Denver Broncos at four 1853 01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:35,160 Speaker 1: and seven. The Texans would have the eleventh pick. They 1854 01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:37,120 Speaker 1: would give it to the Dolphins, though four and seven 1855 01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,960 Speaker 1: Falcons four and seven, would pick ten at number nine, 1856 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:44,160 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and number eight, the Washington Football team 1857 01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:47,320 Speaker 1: at number seven, the Philadelphia Eagles at three, six and 1858 01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,720 Speaker 1: one at number six, the Carolina Panthers at four and 1859 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:54,160 Speaker 1: eight at number five, at Los Angeles Chargers at three 1860 01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,360 Speaker 1: and eight number four, the Dallas Cowboys at three and 1861 01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:02,440 Speaker 1: eight number three, Cincinnati Bengals at two, eight and one 1862 01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,479 Speaker 1: number two, the Jaguars at one and ten with a 1863 01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:10,120 Speaker 1: five fifty five strength of schedule, and the New York 1864 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,360 Speaker 1: Jets at oh eleven with a five eight nine strength 1865 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:17,000 Speaker 1: of schedule. Currently those are you're not so powerful draft rankings. 1866 01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,480 Speaker 1: You know what. Jp You look at around the teams 1867 01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:34,080 Speaker 1: around the Jaguars, and most of those teams don't need quarterback. Bengals, Cowboys, Chargers, Panthers, 1868 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:37,080 Speaker 1: they're the one, but the rest of those don't need quarterback. Well, 1869 01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,240 Speaker 1: the Panther. Here's if you if you win two games, 1870 01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,320 Speaker 1: that puts you. Let's say everyone else loses every game 1871 01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:46,640 Speaker 1: except for you, and you win two games, so it 1872 01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,160 Speaker 1: gets you three wins. The only team you'll fall behind 1873 01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:53,680 Speaker 1: is the Bengals, um because they have the time and 1874 01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,720 Speaker 1: the Bengals aren't going to draft the quarterback. But that's 1875 01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:58,519 Speaker 1: where all of a sudden that you have to worry 1876 01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,760 Speaker 1: about someone trading up into number two spy right, the 1877 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:05,640 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. So at that point, unless you evaluate the 1878 01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:09,000 Speaker 1: kids from by U or some other quarterback out there 1879 01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,120 Speaker 1: as good enough for to take it three that you 1880 01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:12,680 Speaker 1: have confidence in, you're gonna have to give up some 1881 01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:17,439 Speaker 1: draft capital. Don't worry, don't worry, need not worry one bit. 1882 01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:21,439 Speaker 1: There is not gonna be another victory happening in Jacksonville 1883 01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:26,479 Speaker 1: this year, so don't worry about I'm not sure you 1884 01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:30,880 Speaker 1: said Cleveland. No, I said Minnesota too. They're not beating 1885 01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:35,599 Speaker 1: Minnesota at Minnesota. So where's the other one come. Where's 1886 01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:39,759 Speaker 1: the possibility come from Baltimore. Baltimore might have like eighty 1887 01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,880 Speaker 1: guys out with co H by that time. They'll run 1888 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,679 Speaker 1: through it and they'll be immune to it, so they'll 1889 01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:49,439 Speaker 1: be falling. And then you have, indeed, Tennesee at home. 1890 01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,320 Speaker 1: They're not beating Tennessee cold last game of the year 1891 01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,280 Speaker 1: if they need it, they're not winning there, so don'ty, 1892 01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,000 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. They'll have the number two pick, 1893 01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,880 Speaker 1: maybe number one well, the Bangals aren't lose. They're not 1894 01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:04,400 Speaker 1: they're not winning. They're not winning any more games. No, 1895 01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,200 Speaker 1: not with that, not with not with Brandon Allen, by 1896 01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:15,960 Speaker 1: the way, we could pencil him maybe in. By the way, 1897 01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 1: he's another one we can put on the lawne Jacob Waite, 1898 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:22,040 Speaker 1: How do you say it, Tony, that's the first time, 1899 01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:24,200 Speaker 1: that's the first time Pete has ever gotten this guy. 1900 01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:28,519 Speaker 1: The guy's name, right, was another name before that? Right? 1901 01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,240 Speaker 1: So there you have it, the not so powerful draft order. 1902 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:36,519 Speaker 1: Let's come back. We'll go around the league, hit all 1903 01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:40,200 Speaker 1: the games in week twelve and wrap it up. 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Shadrick, 1963 01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:17,080 Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, Tony Buzselly Glad you're along with us today 1964 01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,120 Speaker 1: and let's go around the National Football League and some 1965 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:23,120 Speaker 1: news that has broken over the last little bit here 1966 01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,519 Speaker 1: during the second hour of the show, more changes to 1967 01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:31,680 Speaker 1: Steelers Ravens. It was scheduled Thanksgiving night. It was going 1968 01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,080 Speaker 1: to be scheduled on Monday, it got moved to Tuesday. Well, 1969 01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:38,840 Speaker 1: now it's been moved to Wednesday and the next week 1970 01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:43,519 Speaker 1: Steelers game against Washington has been moved back to Monday night. 1971 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,960 Speaker 1: So a lot of changes all the COVID world. It's 1972 01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:50,960 Speaker 1: going through the Ravens football team right now, Pete, and 1973 01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,479 Speaker 1: it's a lot going on for Baltimore, all these changes 1974 01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:55,760 Speaker 1: trying to get obviously a very important football game in 1975 01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,479 Speaker 1: well at least they have a quarterback we can play 1976 01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:03,160 Speaker 1: on like the Denver Broncos on Sunday. I mean, look, 1977 01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:05,840 Speaker 1: it's we're a week twelve and there hasn't been a 1978 01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,920 Speaker 1: game canceled. That that speaks to the NFL and speaks 1979 01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:10,720 Speaker 1: to what the players have done so far to make 1980 01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:15,759 Speaker 1: this a reality. And let's hope it continues. And let's hope. 1981 01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:18,720 Speaker 1: The only reason the game hasn't been canceled because then 1982 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:23,599 Speaker 1: bye weeks to play with and they moved, but they 1983 01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,720 Speaker 1: have there's no more bye weeks to play with. It's over. 1984 01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:27,920 Speaker 1: The bye week care assault is over. So now they 1985 01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:31,559 Speaker 1: are trying to shove gains in anyway they can. That's 1986 01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:35,120 Speaker 1: why they're gonna play the announced Wednesday for Steelers Ravens 1987 01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,360 Speaker 1: and then when they get hoping they get two days 1988 01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:43,480 Speaker 1: of tests and then Monday, um the Monday before the 1989 01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:46,600 Speaker 1: football team against the Steelers. But you look at this 1990 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:49,439 Speaker 1: past week. They forced the Broncos to play a game 1991 01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,599 Speaker 1: without a quarterback. Yeah, that was well, the Broncos kind 1992 01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:55,920 Speaker 1: of forced it on themselves because they self reported the 1993 01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:59,680 Speaker 1: incident and then the tape became available and and uh, 1994 01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:01,960 Speaker 1: you know then the NFL looked at it and said 1995 01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:04,599 Speaker 1: they were you know, masks down at times when they 1996 01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,599 Speaker 1: were eating and they kept them down and everything else. 1997 01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,800 Speaker 1: But you know how many there were no positive tests 1998 01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:13,120 Speaker 1: among the quarterback none they were They were put out 1999 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:16,400 Speaker 1: because they were close to Yeah, they were, they were 2000 01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:19,680 Speaker 1: close to Jeff Friscoll. So I mean the NFL has 2001 01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:22,000 Speaker 1: gotta ask it quite asked the question. Yeah, you want 2002 01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:23,800 Speaker 1: to be diligent, you want to be safe, But if 2003 01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:27,679 Speaker 1: a guy is not sick and you don't have a quarterback, 2004 01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,479 Speaker 1: should he be held out? Is that right? Is that 2005 01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:36,879 Speaker 1: a good thing to the lease that the Dick Fangio 2006 01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,080 Speaker 1: came out and was mad at his quarterbacks. He wasn't 2007 01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:42,400 Speaker 1: mad at the NFL. I'm not saying it. My point 2008 01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:44,400 Speaker 1: is if they would have been earlier in the year, 2009 01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:46,519 Speaker 1: they would have they would have not played the game. 2010 01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:48,599 Speaker 1: They would have managed with the bye week and they 2011 01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:52,880 Speaker 1: had figured it out. Now they're gonna play games on Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday. 2012 01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,519 Speaker 1: They're gonna play games no matter what. Because they did 2013 01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:59,000 Speaker 1: not want a week before the playoffs. Yeah, I don't 2014 01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:02,240 Speaker 1: know why they pushed back so much on that. Well. 2015 01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,840 Speaker 1: Be the bigger issue for me is what are they 2016 01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:06,720 Speaker 1: you're doing to get in the playoffs, because I don't 2017 01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,720 Speaker 1: the vaccine is not gonna be meaningful by the time 2018 01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:12,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Good here, COVID is not disappearing before the playoffs. 2019 01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the heart of winter in most of 2020 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:17,000 Speaker 1: these places where people are inside all the time. What 2021 01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:18,840 Speaker 1: are they gonna do? Because if you had a run 2022 01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:22,280 Speaker 1: of an out an outbreak during the playoffs, I mean 2023 01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,320 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't talking about bubbling teams and putting 2024 01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:27,920 Speaker 1: him in a hotel like you said the beginning of 2025 01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:29,920 Speaker 1: the season, you with it. I said, I think you 2026 01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:31,640 Speaker 1: have to do it. I think you're gonna have to. 2027 01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:35,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to quarantine these teams because otherwise there's 2028 01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:38,800 Speaker 1: no way you're gonna make it. Where's the spread coming from? 2029 01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,720 Speaker 1: You know the reports Now that the children don't spread it, 2030 01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:43,440 Speaker 1: that's where they're going to reopen the school so the 2031 01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:45,360 Speaker 1: kids aren't giving it to the parents. So where's it 2032 01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:48,760 Speaker 1: coming from. Well, they're going out. I mean, I'm sure 2033 01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:50,640 Speaker 1: they're going to dinner. They're probably picking the stuff up 2034 01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:53,200 Speaker 1: the gas station. Who knows. I mean, it just takes 2035 01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,560 Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, And did you see the fourty 2036 01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,680 Speaker 1: nights have to play two home games in Arizona to 2037 01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:03,200 Speaker 1: California is shut down. Northern California specifically is shut down. 2038 01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:05,440 Speaker 1: All right, we have family up there. My wife would 2039 01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,839 Speaker 1: just tell me during the last commercial break, all kids sports. 2040 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:10,520 Speaker 1: They have kids that are getting ready to play hockey. 2041 01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:14,200 Speaker 1: For the last year, everything shut down completely. They can't 2042 01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:17,520 Speaker 1: leave like it's nothing out for four weeks. So if 2043 01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,360 Speaker 1: they were okay, California has been one of the strictest 2044 01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,760 Speaker 1: states in terms of shutting down. If it didn't work, 2045 01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:25,640 Speaker 1: what's the point of doing it again? A good pete. 2046 01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:27,160 Speaker 1: You gotta ask the one who get paid a lot 2047 01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,520 Speaker 1: more money than you, and I can tell you those things. 2048 01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm not Dr Prisco or Prisco the scientists, 2049 01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,520 Speaker 1: although back in the day I did play doctor when 2050 01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:37,280 Speaker 1: cough in mind about injuries and I had to figure 2051 01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:42,000 Speaker 1: out what everybody was hurt with. But you know, silly hip, 2052 01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:51,720 Speaker 1: silly shoulder, the silly everything, silly me. Put them on 2053 01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:59,720 Speaker 1: a private plane, send them home. Oh man, that was 2054 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:02,640 Speaker 1: would not be funny because expressing on your face as 2055 01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:04,880 Speaker 1: priceless every time I say it, There's no doubt about it. 2056 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,320 Speaker 1: Let's such in a couple of games from yesterday, running 2057 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:13,240 Speaker 1: short on time, the well, the Patriots seventeen over the Cardinals. Pete, 2058 01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:16,160 Speaker 1: are you counting the Patriots out? They have some life 2059 01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:18,840 Speaker 1: for now? No, it just Cat Newton didn't even bed 2060 01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,320 Speaker 1: for a hundred yards and they won the game. I mean, 2061 01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,880 Speaker 1: bad loss for Arizona, really bad loss. The kicker make 2062 01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,000 Speaker 1: your kick he missed. He missed the field goal of 2063 01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:30,040 Speaker 1: a minute forty left, and uh then they went down 2064 01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:34,000 Speaker 1: and got one. Make your kick about the Broncos yesterday 2065 01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,480 Speaker 1: without the quarterbacks kid has going there. I think he 2066 01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,440 Speaker 1: was like one for seven or something passing that game 2067 01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:43,680 Speaker 1: set quarterbacking back to the tebow era. I mean it 2068 01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:48,280 Speaker 1: was so bad, it was awful. I felt bad for 2069 01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:50,240 Speaker 1: hinting he went in there. He never played quarterback, didn't 2070 01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:52,320 Speaker 1: even get any snaps with any reps. They didn't even 2071 01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,480 Speaker 1: know who he was. But Tasstom Hill can't pass either. 2072 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:57,360 Speaker 1: All the tastom Hill hype is was his way out 2073 01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:01,440 Speaker 1: of control. He stinks too. How about the Chiefs and 2074 01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:04,640 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. The Chiefs had a big lead, Bucks came 2075 01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:07,320 Speaker 1: back up within three, had some things going on the 2076 01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:12,200 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, but the Chiefs hold on. Tommy is not happy. 2077 01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:17,160 Speaker 1: He doesn't look happy. He looks miserable. Is the beef 2078 01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:20,880 Speaker 1: real between him and Arians or is this media makeup? Well? 2079 01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,120 Speaker 1: Did you see Arians came out and said that Brady 2080 01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:25,560 Speaker 1: picks the plays and calls the plays there his plays, 2081 01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:29,400 Speaker 1: And all Romo did was defend Brady on Sunday. I 2082 01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:32,240 Speaker 1: mean I didn't I didn't get it. I think when 2083 01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:35,080 Speaker 1: you look at this situation, Brady might be losing a 2084 01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:38,320 Speaker 1: little bit now maybe then you don't. You see him 2085 01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:42,040 Speaker 1: pouting and moping, and you know, he's always been a 2086 01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:44,520 Speaker 1: guy who you know you could read his body language. 2087 01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:47,040 Speaker 1: Remember the Giants used to hit him and make him 2088 01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:49,680 Speaker 1: pout and moan and see ghosts and everything else. That's 2089 01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:51,440 Speaker 1: what's starting to happen with him. And he's not hitting 2090 01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:54,000 Speaker 1: the deep shots. He did it one yesterday though. Yeah. 2091 01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:56,400 Speaker 1: The biggest issue is his deep ball accuracy is just 2092 01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,440 Speaker 1: gun out the window. It's gone, it's disappeared, it's left 2093 01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:01,600 Speaker 1: the building. If you had to pick right now, are 2094 01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:07,000 Speaker 1: the Chiefs They're gonna win it all again? Yes, yeah, 2095 01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:08,960 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are the favorite. Yeah with you. 2096 01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:11,640 Speaker 1: Of course, the Packers might have something to say about that. 2097 01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:14,360 Speaker 1: They look pretty good last night again too, Yeah. I 2098 01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:19,840 Speaker 1: don't think they know. They played against the Bears awful offensively, Yeah, 2099 01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:22,400 Speaker 1: but the Bears defense is pretty good and they carved 2100 01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,600 Speaker 1: in the shreds last night. Time. That's gonna be tough. 2101 01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,200 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough offense to stop in the playoffs. 2102 01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:33,240 Speaker 1: Time for Monday night football. It's a battle of the 2103 01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:35,800 Speaker 1: birds in the City of Brotherly Love, and tonight in 2104 01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,960 Speaker 1: South Billy, Carson Wentz in the Philadelphia Eagles could vault 2105 01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:41,160 Speaker 1: in the first place in the NFC East with a 2106 01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:45,640 Speaker 1: win over Russell Wilson and the suddenly human Seattle Seahawks. 2107 01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:50,160 Speaker 1: Who you got tonight in Philadelphia? It might be I 2108 01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:57,640 Speaker 1: got this and not win. It's gonna be wins. They'll 2109 01:58:57,640 --> 01:59:00,040 Speaker 1: put in some gimmick packages for hers. He's not to 2110 01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:03,240 Speaker 1: play quarterback. I don't think I would. I think Seattle 2111 01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,360 Speaker 1: goes in there and throws it around, although the Eagles 2112 01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,040 Speaker 1: can rush the quarterback, and they're banged up on on 2113 01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:11,080 Speaker 1: the deep on the offensive line and Seattle's banged up 2114 01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:13,680 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. But I'll take Seattle. I don't 2115 01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,800 Speaker 1: love it, but I'll take him. Yeah, I'll take the 2116 01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:19,400 Speaker 1: better quarterback. I'll take Russell Wilson. I think he uh 2117 01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:21,720 Speaker 1: plays a little better, doesn't throw it to the wrong 2118 01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,520 Speaker 1: color jersey as much tonight as he has the last 2119 01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:30,760 Speaker 1: few weeks. And I think a gotta go Pete Sia, 2120 01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:36,120 Speaker 1: Tony Sia. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour. Thank 2121 01:59:36,160 --> 01:59:39,120 Speaker 1: you for listening and from watching. We'll get you next time. 2122 01:59:39,200 --> 02:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Asssssssssss