1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: How's my driving? I'll tell you, Mom, write this number 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: down one eight hundred e at s eight. Uh. Never mind, 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Ron and I guess you gotta be careful these days, right. 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: You just can't rush out and randomly start changing things 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: unless you think the thing through, because you're gonna run 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: into the electronics wall, and the electronics wall is going 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: to limit you in terms of what you can actually change. 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: I gotta be little jacket. I gotta breaking down car. 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna push you do it. I can make it 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: that everything I'm broken down the car Doctor. You know 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: all the emission control has basically have been removed, is 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: what you're telling me. Yeah, I don't think they're everging 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: the emissions control. They kept the bug in Mexico almost 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: good thing, didn't change the anything on it because they 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: had price control. Now I'm gonna taken tell it. Welcome 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Aian the Car Doctor. 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage. Do orders are open, 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight five, five, five, six, 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: nine hundred and now he running, are we thrown away technology? 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: I think we are. I mean I think you have to. 24 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a choice in a repair shop 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: that you know, sooner or later you're you're throwing out 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: old books, old tools, just information that at one point 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: was so valuable and at the forefront of what you 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: needed at that moment to fix the car that and 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: then time just turns it into junk and useless and 30 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: you don't need it anymore, and it just passes it by. 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: I was cleaning off the bookshelves this week. I had 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: a moment, and you know, not that I had it, 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: but I was trying to make a moment, and I 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: made a moment to just take them things, take them 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: things off the shelf, just because I've just got too much. 36 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the books and I don't use 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: books a lot. Obviously everything's digital, everything's online, you know, 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: multiple information systems now that they're you know, online on 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: the internet. No more discs, geez DVDs and CD ROMs 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: went away fifteen years ago. And I'm looking at the 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: pile of books and I'm saying, you know, they're just 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: becoming dust collectors. How much of this do I need? 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: A couple of things caught my eye. First of all, 44 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: I threw out all the books for all the cars 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: during the eighties, anything made from nineteen eighty through nineteen 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: eighty nine. The only way one of those is coming 47 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: in the shop if it's in a recycled fender on 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: the front of a Toyota, you know, because it's all 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: those cars rotted away. They're just they're just gone, and 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: you can't get parts for him anyway. You know. I 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: think of the eighties as the land of vacuum lines 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: and the last of the carburetors that you know, we 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: were struggling trying to find ourselves as an industry, trying to, 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, get to the point where we had reasonable 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: repair rate and emission levels and you know, better than 56 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: what we have to you know, the year before the 57 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: years gone by, I got to the you know, I 58 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: still and I told this to my wife at supper 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: last night. We were talking about today's show, and I said, 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: I said, You're never gonna believe what I found in 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: the pile of books that I was cleaning out of 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: the shop this weekend. They were so valuable, they were 63 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I couldn't imagine parting with him, and 64 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: I did. This week. I found the binder that has 65 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: all the books from General Motors beginning in nineteen eighty 66 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: for a computer command control. If you don't know what 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: that is. That was the first generation of GM emission 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: controls where they put mixture control solenoids and carburetors. Oh 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: my god. And I started reading it, and you know, 70 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm reading it now forty years later with a better 71 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: understand standing of everything because hopefully I've evolved, right, I've 72 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: gotten better as time goes on. That's what you're supposed 73 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: to do in your career. And I'm noticing things that, 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, one model year to the next, one carburetor 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: part number to the next. They're changing float level stroke 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: of the metering rods by a sixteenth of an inch, 77 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: by a thirty second of an inch, you know, by 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: a decimal point, by a fraction by just and you'll 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: look at it and you say, they were trying to 80 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: meet emissions values and they couldn't. And you could see 81 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: that the carburetor was doomed in the early eighties for 82 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: where they wanted to get. They had to create fuel injection. 83 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: They had no choice. They couldn't have met a missions levels. 84 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: There was just no way to do it. And I 85 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: started reading the procedures, you know, for the tools, which 86 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: I still have. I went and actually found the carburetor 87 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: mixture adjusting tools, which I guess, I don't know. Maybe 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: I'll hang on to them. They're collector's items or paper weights. 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: They're something I can drool that when I'm in my 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: nineties going, I used to fix cores and you know, 91 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: I'll remember. But you know, the books, the books were 92 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: just it was it was a joke, It really was, 93 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, nineteen eighty one computer command controlled GM vehicles 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: except S trucks, including California. Then the second book was 95 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: late nineteen eighty one, first six months of nineteen eighty 96 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: two GM vehicles, S trucks included, but not California. The 97 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: third book was eighty one and eighty two vehicles including 98 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: California and S trucks but not including vehicles over six 99 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: thousand GVW and the first four months of nineteen eighty three. 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: They were creating books every four to six months. They 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: were changing the courses every four to six months because 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: they couldn't keep up, they couldn't master the technology, and 103 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: they were having such problems. And if you owned any 104 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: of those cars back in the early eighties, I don't know. 105 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have fond memories of them. 106 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't have two fond memories of trying to work 107 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: on them. I remember that e two sc sideways draft 108 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: car bridge, the progressive two barrel thing was a real disaster. 109 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: You know. We couldn't keep floats in and we couldn't 110 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: keep the vehicle running. It was just it was just 111 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: a mass all gone, all gone, you know. I asked around. 112 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: Nobody wanted them. People laughed at me. No, nobody wanted 113 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: them out. I found a series of books nineteen eighty 114 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: two through nineteen eighty six, Emissions Controls, and I started 115 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: reading the cars Opal Opal, I forgot about Opal Eagle, 116 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Eagle Agle, Talon to Talent, the mess that Chrysler created, 117 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, Mitsubishi is Suzu. I started thinking about the 118 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: Joe is Suzu commercials. We started thinking about the car 119 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: commercials that we don't see anymore, you know, from the 120 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: brands that we don't see anymore. I found my General 121 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Motors five point seven Leader. This is gonna send a 122 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: chill down your spine. Five point seven Leader. GM diesels 123 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: that they put into the passenger cars back in the 124 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: late seventies early eighties, you know, when GM decided to 125 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: take the diesel industry and trash it by trying to 126 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: take a gas engine and create a diesel out of it, 127 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: which was a real mess. I found my Oldsmobile four 128 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: point three Leader F series V six diesel engine. Book Boy, 129 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: there's got to be a hot item. I guess none 130 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: of those cars are coming and I can get rid 131 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: of that right, all gone and countless others, you know, 132 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: Ford's in the mix. I found my EEK three. Eek 133 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: three was the first generation. Well, actually there was EKE one, 134 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: E two, Eek three. Eek three was around for a 135 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: while in the late seventies, and then they went into 136 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: EKE four back in eighty one and eighty one eighty 137 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: two and created the variable venturi carburetor. Anybody remember those 138 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: with a diaphragms blew out in the car got stuck 139 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: on the side of the road and just all and 140 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: I asked myself and Danny and I were talking. I says, 141 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna throw all the sound. Yeah, it's 142 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: not a lot. I threw out a dozen books. I said, Danny, 143 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: we've got the books. Never mind that we don't use them. 144 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: I said, if one of those cars shows up today, 145 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: where are you going to get the parts. You can't 146 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: get parts for any of this stuff. I've got a 147 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: ninety two Buick Roadmaster in the shop right now. It 148 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: had died on the road. And you know, during the 149 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: course of diagnosis, pretty simple and straightforward, it had no spark. 150 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: It dropped that no spark, then it started, then it 151 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't start. Then it started, then it wouldn't start. And 152 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: when I caught it in a no start condition, I 153 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: diagnosed it. And I guess I kind of impressed my 154 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: mechanic because Danny wants me diagnosed. In about four minutes, 155 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: I said, it's a bad ignition module. He said, how 156 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: do you know? And I said, well, it's got no 157 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: spark out of the coil. It's got a hot at 158 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: the coil, all right, it's got trigger at the coil, 159 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: and I'm watching the injector spray. Okay, because it's the 160 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: throttle body car you can And actually Danny wasn't even 161 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: there when I diagnosed it. He came around the corner. 162 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: I needed to find out if the injector was spraying, 163 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: so I sat in the driver's seat, cranked it, and 164 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: I put up a small piece of paper across the 165 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: inject When I was done cranking, I went out. I 166 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: picked a piece of paper out. Its dripping with fuel. 167 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: I said, okay, it's got fuel. What does all that 168 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: tell you? Well, what that tells me is the fact 169 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: that the injectors being driven is that the computers awake 170 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: the pickup coil's working. Because the pickup coil would not 171 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: only trigger the coil, it would also trigger the injectors, 172 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: so I could have one without the other. But I 173 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: had both, so I knew it wanted to run all right, 174 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: I had. I had no pulse. I'm sorry I had 175 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: At times I had no pulse at the coil, but 176 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: I always had always had spray at the injector, which 177 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: told me the computer was seeing a crank signal, And 178 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: then every once in a while the module would wake 179 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: up and create that pulse at the coil and create 180 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: the spark. Said it's a bad module. Took it apart, 181 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: cap rotor, and sure enough I knew I was right. 182 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: Even before I got the car back together, because the 183 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: last guy that had put a module in some time 184 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: ago in the lifetime of this thirty two year old, 185 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty thousand mile vehicle, he had left 186 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: the screws loose, so the module hasn't bolted down tight 187 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: to the plate. And I'm betting that, you know, lack 188 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: of heat transfer. It just shortened the life of the module, 189 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: et cetera. But it didn't matter. That's a ninety two. 190 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: I was able to get a GM module. I was 191 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: able to get a GM coil, a GM pick up. 192 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: What a bunch of GM parts for it. Gonna give 193 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: it to the customer. She's gonna hang on to it. 194 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: She loves the car. You know, listen, whatever makes you happy. 195 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna stockpile some parts. But the point 196 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: in why I started this, this branch of this conversation was, 197 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about eighties cars. You can't get parts. 198 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: Here's a nine two buck Roadmaster. It needs an air pump. 199 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: I can't find an air pump. For the love of money, 200 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: nobody has one. So I guess the next thing we're 201 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: gonna look into is can we bypass the air pump 202 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: and violate federal emissions laws. And then I said, gee, 203 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna break the law in order to 204 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: keep this car on the road unless we can find 205 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: a bypass, a bypass pulley, or an air pump. So 206 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, you travel a lot of weird walks in 207 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: the life of an auto repair shop. Um, sometimes you 208 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: throw out technology that's real valuable. Sometimes you throw out 209 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: technology that you held so near and dear after going 210 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: to the class, and then other days, as time goes by, 211 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: you just sort of take it and plus it in 212 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: the garbage and you move on to the next thing. 213 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: It's a tough career eight five five five six zero 214 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero running any of the car. Doc, 215 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: You're here to talk to you and answer your questions, 216 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: whatever they might be. Give us a call. I'll be 217 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: back right after this. Don't go away. Vehicle not taking 218 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: you where you want to go, Well call Ron. He's 219 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: the expert at making your vehicle take you where you 220 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: need it. Eight five five five six zero nine nine 221 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: zero zero. And now back to Ron. Hey, let's get 222 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: to Kevin who's in Maryland and his oh five price 223 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: or three hundred Kevin, you made it out of Florida. Congratulations, 224 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: what's going on? I did? I had my conference down Aaron. 225 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: Everything seems to be great. I didn't have the time 226 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: to luxury to drive it around for a few days 227 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: to steal it out. But I took off and was 228 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: running great, and then I stopped to get gas this 229 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: morning and the light game back. Okay, which now? But right? 230 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: Check engine? Light? Or which lights on? Check engine? Uh? No? 231 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: ABS and the BASR or something like that. Okay, so 232 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, yes, what exactly, and for everybody's for everybody, 233 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: refresh everybody's memory. Kevin had cold as he was in Florida. 234 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: He was trying to make it home to Massachusetts, I believe, 235 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: or Maine, Massachusetts, and he had an ABS fault and 236 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: our conversation stopped where we were. I was thinking he 237 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: had issues with the one of the censors in the 238 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: back axles. What did they end up doing to repair 239 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: the car at that point, Kevin, They did both the 240 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,479 Speaker 1: axles and both front hubs and all four censers. Okay, 241 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: so you know right now, right now, you won't know 242 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: you know what to do until you get it home 243 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: and get it scanned all right, right, you know, I 244 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: wouldn't getting them getting the teen I'm getting to you 245 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: fourteen eighteen code again on the you know when you 246 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: flipped Okay, all right, then you know, and I would 247 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: I would give them a call. Was this a dealer 248 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: or was this an after market shop? After market shop? 249 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: The parts they put on the guarantee for for two years. Yeah, 250 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: well I'll call them already. And you know there's they're 251 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: willing to work for me. They said, I don't know 252 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: what they mean by that, right, Yeah, Well, because you 253 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: know the problem is fourteen eighteens a um a right 254 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: side sensor signal. Listen, they could have a bad new part. Um. 255 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, do they have a network. Is there a 256 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: place they can send you? Uh, you know in your 257 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: home state of Massachusetts. Yeah, that's what I asked him 258 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: when I picked the car off. Actually has this working 259 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: for him in Massachusetts? So that's the nation wide, the 260 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: guarantees nation wide. Okay, then you gotta you gotta, you 261 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: gotta follow what they're saying. Um, you know, it's it's 262 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: likely something different. Because of the fact that it's not 263 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: in mode and that you're you know, you're you're able 264 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: to drive the car, it's probably lost signal. My guesses 265 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be the right front, you know, because 266 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: it's a right side it's a right side fault. But 267 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, you won't know until you get somebody to 268 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: scan it. All right, So when you get home, it's 269 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: just and you know you're almost time where you in Maryland? 270 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: You've got another Uh you got another eight hours? Yeah 271 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: about three? Yeah, so you got another six to eight hours. Um, 272 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: but there's not much more you can do. Um? Did 273 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: they did they use Chrysler parts that they're just saying 274 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: what they put on as a two year guarantee. They 275 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: they couldn't get all I forgot the name of the 276 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: after market parts, right, yeah, and that's the problem here 277 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: you go again. Right technology the parts knew how to 278 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Chrysler don't exist, you know, would be my gains who 279 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: parts tech net? Okay, so they they purchased, so they 280 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: are a car Quest tech net shop with a nation 281 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: They do have a nationwide warranty, so chances are you'll 282 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: be fine, you know you've but I would follow do 283 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: they do they have a shop they're going to send 284 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: you to. You probably have to go to another tech 285 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: net shop, you know to They're probably go to they 286 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: probably go to my normal mechanic where I get home, 287 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: contake care of me. Okay, all right, let's way it 288 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: all works out. Yeah, as long as they as long 289 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: as they said that. Um, listen, things go wrong, you 290 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: know what. Not every repair shop is a bad repair shop. 291 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: The majority of shops are great. You know. It's it's 292 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: like any other business or any other industry. Um, they've 293 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: actually been treading me great. So really I can't complain 294 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: about the way they would treat me in the service. Yeah, 295 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean they were a little slow fixing the car, 296 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: but they needed to leave for priors. And then they 297 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: they were having a problem when they put it all 298 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: back together, they were having a problem. Get one censored 299 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: to zero out it heeds one already right. Oh and 300 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: and I gotta and I gotta tell you. The worst 301 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: thing in the world is that car that shows up 302 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: unannounced and then you've got to wait for parts. How 303 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: do you schedule that? You know? Do you? You know? 304 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: You the car shows up on Monday. You weren't expecting it. Okay, 305 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: we get right to it, we scan it, we look 306 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: at it, we diagnosed or whatever. Tuesday, we've got a diagnosed, 307 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: we order parts, We don't know if parts are coming Thursday, Friday, 308 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: the following week, and then the parts show up the 309 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: following Tuesday, and you're already a week out before you 310 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: can look at anything else. It's hard soon good good, 311 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: good good. So give us a call back, let us 312 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: know how it ends up. All right, let's uh, let's 313 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: let's see where this goes. You're very welcome, sir, Get 314 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: home safe, be well. Um, you're welcome. That's that's tough, right, uh, 315 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, and that's the problem with older technology there 316 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: you go. Uh, you know, Chrysler doesn't have the parts anymore, 317 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: which I kind of new. You know, they don't. They're 318 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: not keeping much of anything around anymore. You know. It's 319 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: it's really it's seventy years and they're just getting rid 320 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: of things because they just don't need to. Never mind 321 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: the thirty two year old Buick I've got at the shop. 322 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: But even that, even that eighteen year old Chrysler is 323 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: out the door. So you want to know how they're 324 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: going to get you to buy a new car, whether 325 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: you'll want to or not, They're going to do it 326 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: that way. And that's just the way it is. Because 327 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: technology keeps going away. Hey, Ron, long time listener and 328 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: proud at that, very thankful for what you're doing and 329 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: what you've taught the way you've told out to repair 330 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: over the years. I'm more than grateful. I'm contacting you 331 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: today in regards to an original GM Tech two scan 332 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: tool that I bought for my two thousand and six 333 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: chevalry HHR. This comes to us from Kyle. He says, 334 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: my question is what would the ideal laptop be to 335 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: buy to be compatible with that Tech two? And he 336 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: info greatly appreciate Ron, Thanks for your time and service, Kyle, Kyle, 337 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: get out to tiss to web. Go google tiss tis 338 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: the number two web TIS two web that'll bring you 339 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: to the ac Delco TDS Technical Delivery System dot com. 340 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: You know. But just it's easy. It's just to google 341 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: tiss to web and you can look up the requirements there. 342 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: General motors stop releasing software. The Tech two became an 343 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: obsolete scan tool. Here we are thrown away technolog That's 344 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: the theme of today's show. As of August of twenty thirteen, 345 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: so that tool hasn't really been used as a mainstream 346 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: tool for ten years now. You know, the software is 347 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: still available. You can download it. I believe you're only 348 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: going to support Windows ten and above, but you can 349 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: find the requirements on the tist to web website and 350 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: you can go from there. There's also going to be 351 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: an eight hundred number there you can contact just to 352 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: make sure of what you're buying before you buy it. 353 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Good luck. If you got any more questions, give me 354 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: a shout on Ron and Indian. I'll be back right 355 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: after this. Do you ever have any one of those moments, 356 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, when you're I don't know. Someone walked into 357 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: the shop this week, and I'm not sure who it was, 358 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: and it's partly on me because you know, we're rushing 359 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: around in the middle of the day and doing what 360 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: we got to do, and he walked in and I 361 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: thought he was somebody else, but he wasn't. And then 362 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: I thought he was the other person and he wasn't. 363 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't know who it was, but he didn't identify himself, 364 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: so I feel like we both made the mistake. But anyway, 365 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: he walked into the shop Thursday morning, and he looked familiar, 366 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: but you know, he called me by name, so we 367 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: must know each other. Okay, listen, I'm just about fixing 368 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: cars that's all I really want to know. And the 369 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: conversation starts with my jeep makes a noise in the exhaust. 370 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a catalytic converter. Can you come outside 371 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 1: and take a look at it? Well, no, you know, 372 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: walking outside to take a look at something does two things. 373 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: It takes me away from the phone, which is about 374 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: the ring, because the phone's always about to ring, and 375 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't accomplish anything because I can have the same 376 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: conversation standing at the counter, because the conversation really is 377 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: do you want to make an appointment? That's my obligation. 378 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: That's the only way I can give you a good information. 379 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: I've I've got to block away time to especially on 380 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: a car I've I've never seen that I knew, I've 381 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: never seen the car. And I asked him, I said, 382 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, what do you think it is? And what 383 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: we say? I think it's a catalytic converter. Well, there's 384 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: a rattling coming from underneath, and I've been told it's 385 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: a catalytic converter. Okay, so so we know it's a 386 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: catalytic converter. So somebody else looked at it, gave you 387 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: a price you didn't like, I'm thinking to myself, and 388 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: now we're gonna see who can be the cheapest. We're 389 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna play who can spend the least amount of money 390 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: and solve this? And you know, yeah, I can look 391 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: at it. Let's make an appointment. But the rest of 392 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: the conversation went, you know, are you ready to spend 393 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: any money on this? And he says what? And I said, well, 394 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Catalytic converter easily one to two grand, 395 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: depending upon what it needs. And no, they're getting ready 396 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: to sell it. And you know, are you going to 397 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: spend money on this? No, it's got a one hundred 398 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: and ten thousand miles on it. You know, as I 399 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: told him, I said, it's thirteen years old on hundred 400 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: and ten thousand miles. It's going to need something. You know, 401 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: if you're not ready to spend money on it, then 402 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: why are we having this conversation? Well, I'm selling it 403 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: and it needs a tune up. And you know, you 404 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: have those conversations that you just say to yourself, why 405 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: you know you're selling it at this point if you 406 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: haven't spent money to maintain it and you aren't ready 407 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: to spend money on it now to fix it and 408 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: you're selling it. And these are real. These are conversations 409 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: I have every day. You know, I always think of 410 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: that expression, you know, trying to put lipstick on a pig. 411 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: You know, if you haven't maintained it and it's broken 412 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: and it's old and it needs work, you're trying to 413 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: put lipstick on a pig. Either way, it's a pig. 414 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not attractive to anybody no matter 415 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: what you do, and it's not going to be reliable. 416 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: And you know, the time to maintain a vehicle is 417 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: not at the point of selling. The time to maintain 418 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: a vehicle is either when you own it, when you're 419 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: going to drive it so it's safe and reliable, but 420 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: not at the point where you're about to get rid 421 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: of it. Just just you know, I just think about that, 422 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, the humming jeep or lipstick on a pig. 423 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: Which way you want to look at the scenario, but 424 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: either one of them is true. Let's get over to 425 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: the phones. Randy on Long Island, Randy fifteen Lexus Go ahead, Hi, Ron, 426 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: how are you a folk? You last week? Yes, we 427 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: talked about a little bit back and forth, the email 428 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: and the last that you left off was that you 429 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: check with the Lexus dealer and it looks like it's 430 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: not something that I could possibly repair. Could you elaborate 431 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: on that? Sure, the fuel pressure sensor is part of 432 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: the fuel rail, Yes, so you'd have to be able 433 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: to take the fuel rail apart. You'd have to be 434 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: able to deal with discharging the high pressure side of 435 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: the GEDI pump. And if you make a mistake, the 436 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: fuel pressure in that system will go right through your skin. 437 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: I see, So there's there's a safety factor involved. Sure, 438 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: I understand not not to mention that. They're telling me 439 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: that the rail sensor is part of the rail, so 440 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's not a cheap part. They 441 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: didn't give me a price, but they said it's an 442 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: expensive piece. And that's where the research stopped. So you 443 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: have to look around four undred dollar or something like that, right, 444 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: And that's probably so let's say it's four hundred or 445 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: five hundred whatever it is, but you still got to 446 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: be able to get it apart. Now, if you can 447 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: follow a procedure and you've got the tools and you 448 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: can disassemble that and deal with the GEDI high pressure, Yeah, 449 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's underneath the intake menaphold, but the sensor 450 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: is not separable, does not come apart from the rail. 451 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: It is part of the rail assembly. I'm told. Okay, 452 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: thank you for looking into that. I really appreciate it. 453 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: Oh you're very welcome, kiddo. You know, listen, I'm glad 454 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: you called. I wasn't trying to be short. I just 455 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: I just knew where that was going. You know, I 456 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: have to be considerate of what do I think the 457 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: person can do because I couldn't live with myself if 458 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: you took that apart and a high pressure fuel came out, 459 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: pierced your skin and you got sick, because that's what 460 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: would have of course, you know that's that's that's an issue. 461 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: So um, what I would tell you to do is 462 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: find a procedure for rail replacement and if you can 463 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: follow it, and if it makes sense with it, and 464 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: if you're comfortable with it, proceed, But if not, at 465 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: this point it may be time to punt and let 466 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: the dealer take care of it, or your mechanic take 467 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: care of it, you know, as they'll have proper procedure 468 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: and tools. This is the price of technology, right, We're 469 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: just faced with this day in and day out. Listen, 470 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: it's going to come down to this no matter what 471 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: we drive going forward, whether it's a gasoline under high 472 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: fuel pressure, or it's an electric vehicle with a system 473 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: that will electrocute you if you touch the wrong thing. 474 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: We've been dealing with it on hybrids now, the high 475 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: voltage side of hybrids. You have to be cautious and careful. 476 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: You know those cables under the hood of a hybrid 477 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: that are marked in orange. The reason they're marked in 478 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: orange is because they're high voltageing. It'll kill you. Yeah, 479 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: I have a hybrid Honda, and I know exactly what 480 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: you talk about, right, you know it's so there's things 481 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: on the car today that will absolutely kill you. Well, 482 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: I guess there's always been things on the car that 483 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: will absolutely kill you, you you know, it's just that we're 484 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: starting to see more of it. Your next question, well, 485 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: I know much suspect that it is the sensor, but 486 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: is there any more diagnomic It's an expensive part um. 487 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: I know you did mention a little bit about more diagnostics. 488 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you're saying record do a little do some data 489 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: recording fuel pressure spikes. Right, I would want to. I 490 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: would want to bring that up on a scan tool 491 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: and look at fuel rail pressure and the least amount 492 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: of PIDs or the less amount of PIDs that I 493 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: bring up. For understand, a scan tool is an interface, right, 494 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: It's a computer talking to a computer. If I was 495 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: able to do this using a scope, which I could, 496 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: there's I'm sure there's a way we could figure out 497 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: how to tap into that thing using a lap scope 498 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: or the pressure transducer and get absolutely live readings. But 499 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: my first step would be to look at it with 500 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: a scan tool because I'm going to diagnose it the 501 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: way the manufacturer tells me. And you know, do I 502 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: see spikes in fuel rail in fuel rail pressure? Do 503 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: I see changes all right? And can I do that 504 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: through a scan tool. If I'm going to use a 505 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: scant old to do that, I want to make sure 506 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: I can select PIDs, so I only bring up I 507 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: would bring up fuel rail pressure, anything temperature related, ambient 508 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: or coolant. I would bring up engine run time, and 509 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: I would bring up engine rpm. Would be the things, 510 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: and I'd look through the list they see if there's 511 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: anything else that piques my curiosity. If you're doing this 512 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: through O B D two, I don't know that you're 513 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: going to see that. I think you're gonna have to 514 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: go through year, make and model, but you'll know when 515 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: you'll look at it and get specific under year, make 516 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: and model to see what exact information you can bring up. 517 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: And then I always look through the list, but understand 518 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: that list can be long. Some of these cars can 519 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: have eight hundred PIDs that you're going through, so you know, 520 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: it's it's just just be mindful of what you're looking at. 521 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: Go ahead. I was looking at it this morning again 522 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: and it's three hundred twenty nine in the star, right, 523 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, well I'm looking at the fuel pressure and 524 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: all that, and I am able to call it look 525 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: and record it as well as they do a freeze 526 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: what they call it data freeze. And it happens. When 527 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: I was read there is a check engine light that 528 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: comes on, it'll it freezes, you know, before and after 529 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: that event. Okay, Am I reading that right? Yep? Yep, 530 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: sounds right. Can you can you graph that fuel rail pressure? Yes, 531 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: it does have an ability to graph. Okay. When I bought, 532 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: When I bought, to say a few years ago, I 533 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: had thought i'd done a little hole work and I 534 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: wanted to get something that had a little capability. Now, 535 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: so at that point it sounds like you did. At 536 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: that point, I would graph fuel rail pressure, clear the code, 537 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: graph fuel rail pressure. Before I clear the code, i'd 538 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: look at mode six just to see or I'm sorry, 539 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: I look at freeze frame and look to see when 540 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: did the fault occur, and try and be aware. If 541 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: it says the fault occurred at one hundred and fifty 542 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: eight degrees of engine temperature, obviously i'd bring up a 543 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: coolant pit. If you're gonna bring up a coolant pit 544 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: and graph the fuel rail pressure at the same time, 545 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: then you'll know that's where to expect it at that 546 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: temperature range. Whenever that's whenever that moment is um Because 547 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: freeze aim shows you an approximation of when the code occurs. 548 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: It's not exact to the minute second of data, all right, 549 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: but it's going to give you a neighborhood of where 550 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: you're at. And then I would watch for it. If 551 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: you see a spike on the graph line in terms 552 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: of fuel rail pressure and the vehicle doesn't miss a beat, 553 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: I'd think more we've got wiring or a sensor issue, 554 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: And I think more towards censor because wiring this was 555 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: temperature sensitive, right, this only happened at certain times of 556 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: the year. Yes, yeah, so I would say it's more 557 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: of a of a temperature related thing. I would think 558 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: more sensor more than anything else. But that would be 559 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: my first step. Okay, great, thank you. Yeah, the car 560 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: doesn't miss a beat it it runs fine, right right, Well, 561 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: I'll do a little more research because I just again 562 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: it's an expensive part, and do a little more diagnostics. 563 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's submit to the dealer, right and then 564 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: just be careful how you take it. Well, if you're 565 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: gonna let them do it, fine, but if not, if 566 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: you're going to take it apart, be careful. That's a 567 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: that's a that's a GDI car, according to research, and 568 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: GDI systems run high fuel pressure, very high fuel pressure. 569 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: All right, all right, thank you so much. Again, you're 570 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: very welcome to give us a call. Let us now, hey, 571 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: make out five zero nine nine zero zero. The car 572 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: Doctor's coming back right after this. Hey, let's go to 573 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: the email bag. This one comes to us from a guy. 574 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: He's got a fifteen Honda Civic with a CVT trans 575 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: three times. Now, the plug on the top of the 576 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: trans is blown out. He tells us that he just 577 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: discovered this. He doesn't own it happened. He's in Maine 578 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: with all the salt on the roads. He's having its 579 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: service Monday to change fluid and replaced the plug. He 580 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: wants to know how much damage could have been done 581 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: driving around with this plug out and what causes it 582 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: to blowout. First of all, anytime something blows out like that, 583 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about pressure, right, you know, transmissions have event. 584 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: Engines have event. You know an engine, it's a PCV valve, 585 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: crank case ventilation system. Transmissions have to have some type 586 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: of event for the pressures that they operate on. As 587 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: far as damage to it, you know, there's no telling, 588 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: all right, you know, is there are there signs of dirt, debris, crud, 589 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: crapping playing English? Uh, you know around the top of 590 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: the hall where the event is, you won't know getting 591 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: its service. Great idea, all right, you know be aware 592 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: that you know, yeah, I would put a new plug 593 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: in that, but I would go and find the vent. 594 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: There has to be a vent on this transmission. I've 595 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: never seen one without it. That's going to prevent that 596 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: from happening. Again, you know, and I would also reference 597 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: bulletins just to be sure. I'm not aware of anything 598 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: with a fifteen civic with a CVT, but I would 599 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: go through bulletins just to be sure. Is there anything 600 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: that the manufacturers talking about. I have seen some crazy 601 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: things with all sorts of events, you know, everything from mud, dirt, 602 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: debris to spider webs again, critters and cars, right, spiders 603 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: crawl up these little tubes that are vent lines. They'll 604 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: build They'll build a spider web. You'd be surprised how 605 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: strong as spiderweb is. It'll prevent the transmission from vent 606 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: and the simplest little things, we'll prevent you know, pressure 607 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: from getting out. So uh, you know, by all means, 608 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: that's um, that's a that's a real big possibility. As 609 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: long as you don't see or experience any faults in 610 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: the way the vehicle operates, I think you're fine, um, 611 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 1: but you know, just take note of it, and you 612 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: may want to obviously check it again after it gets serviced. Uh, 613 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, one more time a couple of weeks, just 614 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: pop the hood and look is the plug blown out again? 615 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: And if it is, then it's more than just a 616 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: VENT line. But I think it's going to be an 617 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: event that's restricted, and that's going to be the fault 618 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: with that. So a guy that you know, you have 619 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: any other questions, you know where to find me. Um 620 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: that was that we did that piece of email. We 621 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: can do this piece of email. I've got a long 622 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: email here which I'm going to do after we come 623 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: back from Who's this from this from Moose? Actually Jamie 624 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Jamie. Jamie wrote me a book. So we'll 625 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: try to answer all of Jamie's questions on the Car 626 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Doctor returns eight five five five six zero nine nine 627 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: zero zero. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, Ronnie, 628 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: and of the Car Doctor. The sounds you hear is 629 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: me putting on my father Ron Caller and talking to 630 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: Jamie here in Tennessee. Ron love the show. Thanks for 631 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: being so generous with your time. I have no idea 632 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: how you pack it all into the day in the week. 633 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: It's easy. I don't sleep. I wanted to get your 634 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: opinion on a few things. I have several cars, but 635 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: specifically three cars over two hundred thousand miles in nineteen 636 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: ninety nine, Durango. I've had since two thousand and five 637 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: with two hundred twenty thousand miles on it runs great. 638 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: At ninety eight toy to Land Cruiser with two sixty 639 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: on it, which I brought in twenty seventeen, it runs 640 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: well despite a near fire and some burned up wiring. 641 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: Oh boy, you that the details of that good. We 642 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: only have a one hour show. We're down to the 643 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: last five minutes. And at two eleven Chevy Cruise Eco 644 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: Manual with two hundred forty three thousand miles and I've 645 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: brought in twenty twenty. Jamie, You've got an eclectic collection 646 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: of cars there. Brother all have the original engine and 647 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: trans or try to be meticulous and oil changes, which 648 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: I do myself. I try to always use synthetic. Well, 649 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: don't try to always use synthetic. Today. We don't even 650 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: stock conventional at the shop anymore. It's just not worth 651 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: the price difference and it's difficult to get, so we 652 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: just put synthetic and everything. I have a big stockpile 653 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: of discounted and free oil from sales and rebates. One 654 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: point of commentary here, Jamie, is be careful how long 655 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: you keep a stockpile oil. I'm told fulls out of 656 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: suspension after eighteen months to two years. You know, I've 657 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: seen oil after three years it's okay. But you know 658 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to have something you're hanging on too 659 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: for five years and just because you've got a good 660 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: price on it, pay the price and just buy it 661 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: and get rid of it. Try to rotate stock every 662 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: twelve to eighteen months if you can. I use Liquimolly, 663 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 1: additive ceramic MOS two and sometimes motor oil saver as 664 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: curious where you think of liquid Molly. They're okay, They've 665 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: got their place, they seem great, but I can't prove 666 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: any results or performance of them myself. Be careful, you know, 667 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: if you're continuously using an older product, you want to 668 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: stay with technology. I always tell you, guys, any of 669 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: the it is, I always look at the company. I 670 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: look at the editive. I just don't blindly buy or 671 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: add I make sure of what I'm putting in. The 672 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: Durrango has been with the longest and is really part 673 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: of the family. My parents think I want to be 674 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: buried in it. I have never done a timing chain 675 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: on it. Do you think I need to do one? 676 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: Or is it's running fine? Do you say leave it? 677 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: The plugs were last done in two thousand and six, 678 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: around ninety five thousand miles. I'm afraid to do them again. 679 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: You got to have a vague memory of feeling like 680 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: I may have been one may have been or felt 681 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: cross threaded going in Jamie. You know, yeah, this is 682 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: a roll of the dice, all right. I mean, the 683 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: honest answer here is you've got, you know, all vehicles 684 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: that are twenty years old or older. It sounds like 685 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: well close to it, right, the ninety nine Durrango is 686 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: for one. You know, my question is how much rust 687 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: is on some of these cars? And you know, where 688 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: are we going to buy parts for these cars that 689 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: you're trying to keep going? Do you really need three 690 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: older cars like that? Listen, no judgment, brother, but just 691 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, at least buy things that are more mainstream, 692 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: things that are easier to purchase. Parts for the Chevy Rus, 693 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is probably the weakest of the lot. 694 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: A lot of plastic parts, valve covers, thermostat housings. You know, 695 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: they tend to fall apart after one hundred thousand mile mark, 696 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: which you're well passed. I would stay on top of it. 697 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: With a lot of regular fluid and oil changes, and 698 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: you know to be continued. I'll try to finish the 699 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: rest of your letter as soon as I can get 700 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: to it in another show, but I appreciate your thoughts 701 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: till then, I'm not any in the car doctor. The 702 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you