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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we recommend

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Speaker 1: you repurpose those No King's protest signs as window decorations.

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Speaker 2: Let Ola Gargle, D's Nuts.

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Speaker 1: And Cankeles Mctaco Tits live on It's Monday, October twenty eth.

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Speaker 1: Then on today's show, we'll be talking to play by

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Speaker 1: play announcer and new lead boys for USA Networks WNBA coverage,

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Speaker 1: Kate Scott.

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Speaker 2: We chat about how she got.

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Speaker 1: Her start calling games, the nuances and challenges of calling

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Speaker 1: different sports, and what she's doing to prep for the

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Speaker 1: new w job, plus making the leak official, birthing births,

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Speaker 1: and the wrath of the injury gods is fierce. It's

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Speaker 1: all coming up right after this Welcome back slices. Hope

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Speaker 1: you had a great weekend. Here's what you need to

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Speaker 1: know today. Four more teams clinched NWSL playoff berths over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, Seattle, San Diego, Gotham FC, and Portland to

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Speaker 1: join Orlando, Kansas City and Washington in the postseason party.

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Speaker 1: Seattle clinched with a two to one win over Utah

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Speaker 1: two Portland clinched with a two nail victory over Angel City,

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Speaker 1: and San Diego went above and beyond with a six

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Speaker 1: to one win over Chicago. Their six tallies the most

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Speaker 1: in a single game in club history, and their three

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Speaker 1: goals in the opening eighteen minutes the fastest three goals

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Speaker 1: also saw the Houston Dash and Angel City both officially

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Speaker 1: That was a tough pill to swallow for ACFC fans

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Speaker 1: and players ahead of their final home game of the season,

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Speaker 1: but they still got to enjoy a special evening honoring

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Speaker 1: retiring players Ali Riley and Kristin Press. We'll have more

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Speaker 1: on that in tomorrow show. With seven teams in and

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Speaker 1: two alive but not yet advanced, that leaves one spot left.

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Speaker 1: It'll go to either the North Carolina Courage or Racing Louisville,

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Speaker 1: a team that's still looking for the first postseason birth

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Speaker 1: in franchise history. Will break down what needs to happen

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Speaker 1: for each to advance ahead of decision day on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: November two, the last day of the NWSL regular season.

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Speaker 1: The league first breaks next weekend for international friendlies before

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Speaker 1: resuming for that last regular season match day, which will

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Speaker 1: also determine the seeding for playoff berths three through eight.

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Speaker 1: More NWSL and an update on Trinity Rodman, who sustained

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Speaker 1: team roster for an upcoming trio of friendlies. Ahead of

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Speaker 1: announced that Rodman has been diagnosed with a Grade one

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Speaker 1: it could be now. While Gonzales declined to provide a

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Speaker 1: timeline on Rodbin's return, sources told Emily Olsen of The

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Speaker 2: On Sunday, it was announced that Robin will not.

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Speaker 1: forward and reigning NWSLMVP ten with Shaweinga, suffered an apparent

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Speaker 1: After being tended to on the field for several minutes

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Speaker 1: Heading into the game, Shaweena was actually listed as questionable

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Speaker 1: for good news to the WNBA. The Las Vegas Aces

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Speaker 1: this season end quote. She also sported a Thanos Gauntlet

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Speaker 1: glove with the Infinity Stones on it labeled scoring title

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Speaker 1: When coach Becky Hammond addressed the fan, she said this

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Speaker 2: End quote. I'm just wondering if Becky can coach.

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Speaker 1: Me up on that dance move she busted out during

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Speaker 1: the Crime Mob set. We'll link to it in the

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Speaker 2: More WNBA.

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Speaker 1: The Portland Fire expansion team made it official on Friday,

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Speaker 1: announcing the hiring of Alex Sarama as the franchise's first

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Speaker 1: news with some premature posts on both LinkedIn and Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Sarama most recently worked as an assistant coach with the

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Speaker 1: for the city's G League team, the Rip City Remix. Now,

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Speaker 1: he's perhaps best known for subscribing to an innovative training

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Speaker 1: for this training goes beyond traditional drills and set play

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Speaker 1: quote unquote rehearsals, instead putting players in situations using constraints

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Speaker 1: But I do think it might require some buy in

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Speaker 1: So here's a sample from Serama's Transforming Basketball website to

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Speaker 1: Rather than viewing offense and defense through the lens of

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Speaker 1: Transforming basketball presents the case for conceptual defensive and offensive

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Speaker 1: principles that align with an ecological dynamics rationale. Creative analogies

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Speaker 1: in the constraints let approach are used to shape such principles,

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Speaker 1: That was about the least confusing paragraph on the website, and.

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Speaker 2: That's not a judgment.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it will take some time, I think

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Speaker 1: to golf. South Korea's say Young Kim won the BMW

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Speaker 1: joining the LPGA Tour in twenty fifteen, but her first

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Speaker 1: Tour this year. Slice is one more fun note to share.

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Speaker 1: Do y'all remember way back at the beginning of the

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Speaker 2: Ella has Well.

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Speaker 1: We're happy to share that Ella and fellow racing rookie

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Speaker 1: It's Kate Scott, who I caught up with last week,

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Speaker 1: The lead voice for USA Network's WNBA coverage next season,

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Speaker 1: wife to Nicole Dog, mom to Piper, a UC Berkeley crad.

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Speaker 1: She wraps Philly Now, but she's a native of Fresno County, California. Fresno,

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Speaker 3: Hi King, Sarah, it is so good to see you.

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Speaker 4: That might be my favorite intro all time. Fresn, fres Yes,

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Speaker 1: For those who can't see, because this is an audio platform,

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Speaker 1: Kate is wearing a shirt that has a baseball player

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Speaker 1: sums up how women understand sports right.

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Speaker 2: Like me, Not yet, it's too tricky exactly.

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Speaker 4: I thought you, of all people, would appreciate this shirt,

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Speaker 4: so thank you for noticing and bringing it to the airwaves.

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Speaker 3: For those who can't sit official media.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to talk about how you somehow do

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Speaker 1: you call every single sport and how that blows my mind.

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Speaker 2: But I want to start with the new.

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Speaker 1: News because you've just added a whole summer of WNBA

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Speaker 4: I wasn't working enough, Sarah. You know I wasn't working enough,

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Speaker 4: so I said, what else can I do?

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Speaker 3: And You're right?

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Speaker 1: So what feeling is taking over more right now? Happiness

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Speaker 1: or overwhelm?

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Speaker 4: There was a little overwhelm at first, but Sarah, you

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Speaker 4: and I was looking back earlier today knowing that we

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Speaker 4: were going to chat, looking to see how long we've

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Speaker 4: known each other. We've known each other for eleven years,

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Speaker 4: and you and I were both covering I know you

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Speaker 4: still obviously are covering women's sports, but we met when

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Speaker 4: here doing all the things you listed without women's sports.

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Speaker 4: I played women's sports growing up. I watched women's sports

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Speaker 1: you personally for when you make a mistake, but also

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Speaker 1: your desire, Yeah, your desire to prove them wrong, your

440
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: desire to make sure that you are more prepared, more ready,

441
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Speaker 1: so that you could bring something that maybe even the

442
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: men aren't bringing because they can be more casual about

443
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 1: it because they're gonna they're gonna be fine regardless, and

444
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to works on it. I think that's

445
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Speaker 1: why so many of the women in this business that

446
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Speaker 1: I've met are so much more qualified and so much

447
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: more impressive because of how much it took for them

448
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: to get that opportunity. So you're working in radio, You're

449
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 1: getting your sports itch, you're scratching that itch.

450
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Speaker 2: You're you're making your way up.

451
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the sports are giving you the itch and you're

452
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: scratching it. But you're just a year into that gig

453
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: and you suffer a terrible accident and you and I

454
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Speaker 1: have never really talked about this, but you're riding your bike.

455
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Speaker 2: You get hit by a car.

456
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us about working your way back from

457
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Speaker 1: that and how that then was this other hurdle of like, Okay,

458
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: I'd just gotten past some of the doubt, and now

459
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: here it is again.

460
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I caught me off guard there, Sarah. I

461
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 3: didn't ex compass to get into this. Yeah, it was awful.

462
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Speaker 4: So I had finally gotten to the point, as you mentioned,

463
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Speaker 4: where people had gotten okay with my existence and my presence. Okay,

464
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Speaker 4: there's gonna be a chick on our sports radio station

465
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 4: and she actually seems to know ball and okay, she's

466
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 4: got a pretty good sense of humor. This will be okay.

467
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 4: And then yeah, a car ran a red light in

468
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Speaker 4: San Francisco and I was riding my bike, and I

469
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 4: was so fortunate that I just got my ultraumatic brain injury,

470
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Speaker 4: which is just code for a really bad concussion and

471
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Speaker 4: soft tissue damage and stuff. But I didn't break anything.

472
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Speaker 4: But I couldn't get out of bed for a month

473
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Speaker 4: because I had vertigo. Light and all the things that

474
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 4: you hear about with concussions and sounds was just I couldn't.

475
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Speaker 4: So I was just pretty much in a dark room

476
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Speaker 4: for a month. And of course the entire time that's

477
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Speaker 4: going on, even though I can barely sit up, I'm

478
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Speaker 4: freaking out that I'm going to lose everything I've worked for, right,

479
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 4: somebody's gonna take my job. I'm gonna get Wallypips. I

480
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 4: have to figure out a way to get back to work.

481
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 4: So much sooner than I should have. I started waking

482
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Speaker 4: up at five am, which is when my shift started.

483
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Speaker 4: At home, the sports update sounder would sound, and then

484
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Speaker 4: in my closet, in my tiny closet San Francisco apartment,

485
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Speaker 4: I would turn down the sound and.

486
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Speaker 3: Do a sports update.

487
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Speaker 6: So just for yourself, just trying to get myself back

488
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Speaker 6: into the road, because it was still hard for me

489
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Speaker 6: to sit up, Sarah like, I had a bar in

490
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Speaker 6: my shower so that when I leaned back to wash

491
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Speaker 6: my hair out, I wouldn't fall over.

492
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Speaker 4: So I should not have gone back to work, but

493
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Speaker 4: I went back to work. The accident happened October second.

494
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Speaker 4: I went back to work red round Thanksgiving of that year,

495
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 4: and in retrospect, that was too soon. I probably should

496
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Speaker 4: have waited till the new year. But I think that

497
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 4: just speaks to how badly I wanted this, and since

498
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Speaker 4: then I think back to that, not every day, but

499
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Speaker 4: from time to time that I may through that.

500
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Speaker 1: Right.

501
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 4: So I'm going to make it through anything. So your

502
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 4: mean comments on social media, your mean comments in person.

503
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: I got hit by a car and so bring it on,

504
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 4: bro right, right, But yeah, that was that was a

505
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: really tough moment. And uh, one day I'll tell the

506
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Speaker 4: full story to everybody. But I think that's a pretty

507
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: good snippet there. Yeah, it was just another challenge and

508
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Speaker 4: hurdle that I had to get over that's.

509
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Speaker 1: Led me here, right, And I mean, brain injury isn't

510
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: just about the physical of getting up and being in

511
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Speaker 1: a bright room and the sound, but also just being

512
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Speaker 1: quick getting your brain back to working and being the

513
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: personality and all that stuff, which is a big part

514
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Speaker 1: of the job. And it's why you've been so successful.

515
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: You have called pretty much every sport there is. And

516
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Speaker 1: I listen, I am not being humble because why start now.

517
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Speaker 2: I could never I am not built to call games now.

518
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Speaker 2: Granted I've never tried it.

519
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Speaker 1: Maybe I could do it, but it to know every rule,

520
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: every situation, every player, every bit of context. For me,

521
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: like sometimes I'm sitting around watching ball for fun. And

522
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Speaker 1: my husband, who doesn't work in sports but grew up

523
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Speaker 1: like most boys and men where people talk to him

524
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Speaker 1: about them every second of every day. And he's a

525
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: huge fan. He you know, played the video games growing

526
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 1: up and knows. He'll say something and I'll be like, oh,

527
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm not watching for that, right, And I'll think to myself, like, oh,

528
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: that that's how you have to be watching. If you're

529
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Speaker 1: calling like every flag every why didn't they oh they

530
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: pulled this person, or that they didn't report that lineman.

531
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, there's just eight million rules for every sport. Yeah,

532
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: how did you practice for games? And how did you

533
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Speaker 1: learn the nitty gritty details required to call every sport?

534
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Speaker 3: It's it's very hard. It's a lot. It's a lot

535
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Speaker 3: of work in the dark.

536
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Speaker 4: Right. I like to say that the games are the

537
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Speaker 4: fun part. Oh my gosh, like it's an open book test, right.

538
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 4: I have my notes in front of you, but hopefully

539
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 4: most of the time I'm just looking up and calling

540
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Speaker 4: the game.

541
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Speaker 3: But it is really how much work you're willing.

542
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: To put in behind the scenes, going down the rabbit

543
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: holes on YouTube, on Reddit and trying to figure out

544
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Speaker 4: what does this.

545
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: Word mean in a volleyball match?

546
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Speaker 4: You know, that was the first sport I was asked

547
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Speaker 4: to call, of course, the one sport that I had

548
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 4: never played, and the pack to all needed help calling

549
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 4: women's volleyball, and of course you say yes and you

550
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Speaker 4: just figure it out.

551
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Speaker 3: But I didn't.

552
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 4: I knew the rules from a cheering my friends on

553
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: at a high school match sort of way, but not like.

554
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Speaker 2: There's a bump and there's a set and there's a spike.

555
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 4: And they're like, don't ever say that in a match, Kate,

556
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Speaker 4: please do not use those words.

557
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: Listen, this is what you need to say.

558
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: But it is, I like to say, it's like studying

559
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 4: for any other subjects, right, if you want to learn

560
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 4: about history, if you want to learn about science or math.

561
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 3: It's the same thing with sports.

562
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Speaker 4: Thankfully now there's an Internet, so it's just how much

563
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: work you're willing to put in. But it is a

564
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: ton of reading, a ton of listening, a ton of watching,

565
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Speaker 4: and mostly just a ton of time that you have

566
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 4: to give in to really the same way it would

567
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: be playing a sport, right, learn about sport to the

568
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 4: point that you feel comfortable calling it.

569
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I tell a lot of up and

570
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: comers like, the biggest thing to do is just to

571
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: constantly have content in your ears and in front of you,

572
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: whether that's reading or listening so that you become just

573
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: completely understanding of every tiny, nitty gritty linguistic specificity that

574
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Speaker 1: will tell someone that you don't really know ball and

575
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: its sports have their own language.

576
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Speaker 3: And every sport has their own Okay, yeah, right.

577
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Speaker 1: And you have to listen all the time to really

578
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Speaker 1: get how people talk about it and how the game

579
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: is called, and how people write about it. One of

580
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: the things I remember hearing about, and I was unfamiliar

581
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Speaker 1: with this is that for a lot of sports, they'll

582
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Speaker 1: take the people who call the games and before the

583
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Speaker 1: season starts, they'll send them out with the officials and

584
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Speaker 1: they'll have either meetings or events so that they kind

585
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Speaker 1: of learn what are they watching for, how are they

586
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Speaker 1: calling it?

587
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Speaker 2: And that makes a lot of sense to me. Have

588
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: you done that?

589
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

590
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 4: Thankfully, les have started doing that more. They didn't do

591
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 4: that always at the start of my career. But getting

592
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: back to women's basketball, Pac Trowlve of Women's Basketball, shout

593
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: out to Violet Palmer, one of the first women and

594
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 4: black women to be an official in the NBA. She

595
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 4: was in charge of officiating for the Pactrol So that

596
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 4: was the first time I experienced it, and she would

597
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 4: sit us down before the season and say, these are

598
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: our points of emphasis for the year. Let's watch some

599
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 4: video together, and if you have questions, ask me.

600
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: And now, the NBA has.

601
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 4: Broadcast meetings before the season starts. We just had them

602
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago.

603
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: Same thing.

604
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 4: The NWSL Women's Soccer League, same thing, And it is

605
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 4: so helpful because yes, we know the rules, but we're

606
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 4: also not officials, right. I might have officiated under twelve

607
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 4: soccer a number of years ago, probably a little out

608
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: of date to what NWSL officials are looking at. So

609
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 4: it is so helpful because as a fan and as

610
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 4: a broadcaster, I may be looking at one thing and

611
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: it may be as simple as saying, okay, Kate, but

612
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: you need to look at the feet first, and then

613
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 4: the knees and then the shoulders and then pull back

614
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 4: and try to get the full picture and of my well.

615
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Speaker 1: I hope they do those meetings before the WNBA next

616
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: season because a lot of officiating talk, and I think

617
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: they will be useful to understand why it's called differently

618
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: in college versus the pros, what they're looking for, what

619
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Speaker 1: they're being asked to call Okay, we're running out of

620
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: time here, so I have a quick speed round on this.

621
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Speaker 1: The toughest part about calling a basketball game, like what's

622
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: the thing that happens? And you're like, oh, straight, I

623
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: hate when I have to figure this out.

624
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: M the speed.

625
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 4: I don't think anything prepares you for the speed and

626
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 4: physicality of basketball. I know we talk about that a

627
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: lot with football. The the NBA is football without the pads,

628
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: and the guys are no breaks, and I think the

629
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 4: W is the same way. Now, Holy cats, those ladies

630
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: are so fast these days.

631
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 5: Hockey game, you better have every single player memorized, Sarah,

632
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 5: because there is no time to look down, and everybody

633
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 5: has helmets on and everybody looks the same, and they

634
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 5: don't at least in football they have numbers on the

635
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 5: front and the back.

636
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: Most of the time. In hockey they just have you know,

637
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: a black hawk. Yeah they have a fly so far.

638
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 3: So you have to have everybody memorized or you're screwed.

639
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: Football.

640
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 7: Oh hardest thing about football probably the amount of players

641
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 7: on a football roster, because there is so many, and

642
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 7: sometimes at the college level there's double numbers and guys

643
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 7: will sometimes switch numbers if they're on a kicking.

644
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: Team, and don't get me started on that.

645
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: But the amount of players you have to keep track

646
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: of when it comes to football, I think is the

647
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 4: most difficult part.

648
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: I think also just knowing what the job of each

649
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: person on the line is, both defensively and offensively, so

650
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: you can really know if someone blew something or if

651
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: it was the fault of someone else, but it looks

652
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: like that hole was caused by this person. Like those

653
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: details I think are the top total on the line.

654
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: And that gets back to right, what we were talking

655
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: about before is research. Right when I started calling high

656
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 4: school football, I thought I knew football, But now fifteen

657
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: years later, really digging in.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I see what the left guard did wrong there?

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Speaker 4: Right when back when I was starting, I was like,

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Speaker 4: here's the offensive line, here's the defensive line.

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Speaker 3: Like, let's dive back to you.

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Speaker 2: What about soccer, oh.

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Speaker 3: Harson with soccer?

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Speaker 4: Gosh, soccer might be the easiest one for me to

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Speaker 4: call because it's the sport I play the longest, and

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Speaker 4: they don't have helmets right so, and and usually people

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Speaker 4: staying in the same spot ish on the pitch, so it's.

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Speaker 2: A lot of space, a lot of room to see

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Speaker 2: what's developing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I.

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Speaker 4: Think I think maybe for soccer, for me, it's knowing

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Speaker 4: when to lay out, which is something that you have

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Speaker 4: to work on.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to talk through the entire goal because

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Speaker 4: most of the time I'm calling it on television. Let

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Speaker 4: the pictures do the talking, which is so much easier

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Speaker 4: said than done when you're paid to talk. Is to

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Speaker 4: know when to shut up. So maybe that that's.

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Speaker 1: The Just to ask my husband or anyone in my life,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wait, I get paid for this.

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Speaker 2: This is a good skill. Oh shut up for what? Okay? Okay,

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Speaker 2: not not always useful in life. Good to know.

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Speaker 1: What do you think is to be the biggest challenge

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the new gig, the w gig?

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Speaker 4: Yeah gosh, I mean after this season of free agency,

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Speaker 4: I think the hardest thing is going to be knowing

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Speaker 4: who's playing for what right and where are we and

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Speaker 4: what's happening.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about this offseason, Sarah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm keeping all the things cross that the

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Speaker 4: CBA gets worked out. Everybody is happy enough, because nobody's

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Speaker 4: ever completely happy after negotiations. But I just hope that

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Speaker 4: everything starts on time. I hope it is a mad

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Speaker 4: off season, and I hope all the momentum that has

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Speaker 4: built over the past couple of seasons we just get

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Speaker 4: to build off of that, right because Wow, the league

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Speaker 4: is so incredible right now and it's just going to

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Speaker 4: keep getting better. So that's I think just figuring out

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember when we'd start a new season when I'm

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Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Net, which existed before FS one even

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Speaker 1: came around, and when a new season would start, one

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Speaker 1: of the first things we'd say ahead of like the

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Speaker 1: the biggest stories, it's new faces in new places, faces

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Speaker 1: in new places. And either way, it was like, how

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Speaker 1: highlight and give the context that this person used to

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Speaker 1: be here and now they're here or this is a

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Speaker 1: big deal and why And I feel like that's going

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Speaker 1: to be all of the w starting back up next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you're actually before then, you've got a whole NBA season.

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Speaker 3: It's about to get the NBA.

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Speaker 1: M NBA is what we usually call it here. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the m NBA and the Philadelphia Sixers job is a

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Speaker 1: big one. You're just a second woman on the TV

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Speaker 1: call for an NBA team, joining friend of the show

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Speaker 1: Lisa Buyington, who calls Milwaukee Bucks games. You won over

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Speaker 1: that city eventually, just like anywhere else, to take a

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Speaker 1: full time. But before I let you go, I do

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Speaker 1: want you to quickly tell the story about six Ers

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Speaker 1: star tyres Maxie how he got COVID, has TV aspirations

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Speaker 1: and ended up watching you on the call, and I

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Speaker 1: just love what it could mean. Not for Tyrese, although

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Speaker 1: I wish him luck in that, but just in general

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Speaker 1: what that illustrated in terms of what you represent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was super difficult when I get hired for

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Speaker 4: so many reasons. So I got hired September twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 4: going into the twenty twenty one twenty two season, which

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Speaker 4: it wasn't the COVID year, but it was the year

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Speaker 4: right out of COVID. So moving across the country, I'm

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Speaker 4: a gay chick from California.

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Speaker 3: Everybody hates me.

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Speaker 4: I'm replacing a dude who's been born and raised in

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Speaker 4: Philly called six Ers games for thirty years.

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Speaker 3: Like good luck Kate again.

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Speaker 4: And on top of that, I can't interact with the

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Speaker 4: players yet, I can't go to practice.

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Speaker 3: We're calling our road games off of monitors.

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Speaker 4: So all the things I would do to at least

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Speaker 4: start to try to settle in, I wasn't able to do.

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Speaker 4: One of the positives that turned out happening was all

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Speaker 4: of us were getting COVID during that time, and Tyrese Maxey,

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Speaker 4: who's now a superstar in the NBA and just going

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Speaker 4: to keep getting better and is our young future leader,

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Speaker 4: gets COVID and so he's listening to me calling games

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Speaker 4: and apparently something he heard excited him, and since then

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Speaker 4: he's been a wonderful support of mine. When the Mad

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Speaker 4: News came out last year, he's you know, sending out

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Speaker 4: supportive notes for.

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Speaker 3: Me, which you know, Sarah like, yeah, when.

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Speaker 4: NBA players are going to w games years ago, that

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Speaker 4: was a big deal, even though we didn't want it

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Speaker 4: to be a big deal.

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Speaker 3: So when the star of the team.

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Speaker 4: That you're calling, who everybody loves, says, hey, everybody, you

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Speaker 4: should listen to this chick and support her because she's pretty.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, that went a long way. And I hope that

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Speaker 3: he's here for a long time, and I hope I'm

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Speaker 3: here for a long time.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, he's He's just a phenomenal human and talent.

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Speaker 4: Shades of Steph Curry because you know, I got to

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Speaker 4: Curry cover stuph for a number of years on the

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Speaker 4: Warriors flagship, and I don't expect him to beat Steph

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Speaker 4: to be the greatest shooter of all time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all those same vibes.

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Speaker 4: He just gets all of it on and off the

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Speaker 4: floor and really excited to see where he and Sixers

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Speaker 4: go in the years.

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Speaker 2: He seems like a very good dude.

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Speaker 1: And the idea that he was like, I might want

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Speaker 1: to do this later, So I'm going to take notes

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Speaker 1: from Kate and watch how she does it, because I

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Speaker 1: like how she does this is great. And little boys

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Speaker 1: and girls everywhere turning on TVs that don't know any

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Speaker 1: different just think that that's what a basketball game sounds like. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is my end team. And when I think about

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Speaker 1: growing up, and there wasn't a single woman other than

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Speaker 1: a lovable that was visible to me. Just the Bulls cheerleaders.

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Speaker 1: The entire Bulls run that I was obsessed with was

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Speaker 1: just the cheerleaders. And instead the kids growing up now

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Speaker 1: are just like, oh yeah, that's how games are.

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Speaker 4: It's it's Kate, and I know our buddy Kylin mill

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Speaker 4: Is called a Bulls preseason game the other day. I've

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Speaker 4: known Kylin since she was out on the West Coast

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Speaker 4: for a little bit, so yeah, you know my saying, sir,

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Speaker 4: little by little one walks far. There's been a hell

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Speaker 4: of a lot of progress since you and I met,

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Speaker 4: and it's not where we want it to be, but

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Speaker 4: it's happening, so let's keep getting there.

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Speaker 1: And I love that we're gonna have more intersections with

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Speaker 1: good game and Kate once the WNBA starts really quick.

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Speaker 2: House Piper, my love of my pep.

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Speaker 4: Piper is great, annoying as ever, But how are your

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Speaker 4: puppies our pity rescues that we love so much.

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Speaker 1: Two of them are old and one of them is

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Speaker 1: a little punk and it's a great combination. Keeps me

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Speaker 1: on my toes, so old ones and a little young jerk. Kate,

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Speaker 1: you're the absolute best. I couldn't be happier. No one

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Speaker 1: is more deserving of all the success. I hope you

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Speaker 1: somehow find sleep and balance and Piper snuggles. Puppy snuggles

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Speaker 1: fix everything. But we're just rooting you on from AFAR.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Sarah, so great to see you,

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Speaker 4: and Alex and everybody.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again to Kate for taking the time and hanging out.

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Speaker 2: We have to take another break when we return. Sweet

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