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Speaker 1: he accounted for twenty seven total touchdowns and over the

426
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Speaker 1: final seven games he account of are just ten offensive touchdowns.

427
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Speaker 1: Was that him the shoulder injury, he had a leg

428
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Speaker 1: injury towards the end. Was that a defense adjusting and

429
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: the Cardinals must adjust to the adjustment. How do you

430
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: diagnose that it's tough? I think it's a lot of factors.

431
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,719
Speaker 1: I think, Um, to a large degree, Kyler's maturing as

432
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He's he's trying to stay in the pocket more.

433
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 1: He's trying to let plays develop down the field more. UM.

434
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Speaker 1: And you know he's not going to make as many

435
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: plays with his legs. I think, Um, you know, early,

436
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: especially throughout his rookie year, Read one was covered, Read

437
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: two was covered, and he was gone pretty quickly. Um.

438
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: And and defense has find a way to limit his

439
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: effectiveness on the ground. Um. You know it's they they

440
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: see what other teams do, they see what's effective, they

441
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: see how to fill windows. UM. But you know, I

442
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: expect him while he is so dynamic with his legs,

443
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: and you know, and I know whatefully talks about it

444
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: all the time. There's nothing that breaks the back of

445
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: a defense more than a mobile quarterback that scrambles for

446
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: a first down on third and long. UM. And Kyler

447
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: will continue to do that, and he will continue to

448
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: make big plays with his legs. But I think as

449
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: he matures, and as the game continues to slow down

450
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: for him, I think you'll see him sick stay in

451
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: the pocket more. Do you think they're going to stick

452
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: him under center a little bit more column. That's a

453
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: good question, and I heard you talking about it earlier. Um,

454
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Speaker 1: you know, I think you know those those third and

455
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: one third and short opportunities, goal line situations, now that

456
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: we didn't really have that. That Howard back that was

457
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: a thumper that was going to get that one yard

458
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: or get those two yards. But now with James Connor

459
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: back there, the running back is in a lot better

460
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: position and can see better. U. If the quarterback is

461
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: under the center and he's got that downhill and he's

462
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: got a full head of steam, hit the last creamis

463
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: because even if the hole isn't there, he can keep

464
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Speaker 1: his legs churning and get that extra yard. He ketch

465
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Van and Bosh Rob Predickson our pre impost game

466
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: coverage all year long in the Ears in a Cardinals

467
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: radio network. How about Rodney Hudson. You had a center

468
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: like Rodney Hudson and some of these stats are just stupid.

469
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: Since two sixteen, he's allowed to just two sacks and

470
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: over three thousand snaps. So whether it's keeping Kyler clean

471
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Speaker 1: from the quickest way to the quarterback, which is from

472
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Speaker 1: A to B right up the middle, or if they

473
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Speaker 1: want to go with more of that power running game

474
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: and a James Conner. They seemingly have the center to

475
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: do it. Kyle, Yeah, And it's not just his physicalness

476
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: and his quickness and his athletic ability. I played with

477
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Speaker 1: a center that was inducted into Hall of Fame two

478
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Speaker 1: years ago, Kevin Maway, and he had seen everything, and

479
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: he knew everything, and he you know, especially with the

480
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: young quarterback and with some young pieces on the offensive line,

481
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Speaker 1: he was able to recognize what the defense was trying

482
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Speaker 1: to do pre snap and he made it wasn't just

483
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: that he was a good player, he made everybody around

484
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: him better. And that's the type of player Rodney Hudson

485
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Speaker 1: is and that's that's what he's going to bring to

486
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: this offensive line. Is is just that the smarts and

487
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: the recognition and getting helping Kyler get get him into

488
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: the best protections and given him the time back there.

489
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: How do you see the Arizona Cardinals, And I know

490
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: it's all speculation right now, but how do you see

491
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Speaker 1: them using Chase Edmonds and James Connor. Well, I hope

492
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: it's it's by committee. I mean, I hope they both

493
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: almost split the carries equally. I mean they both um

494
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: have a different skill set and they can, uh, you know,

495
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: they can both do all things pretty well. But both

496
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: of them are very unique in their abilities. And um,

497
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: you know, Chase Edmonds is he's he's got the speed

498
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: and he's got the quickness, and he's got the ability

499
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Speaker 1: to be a home run UM type running back. And

500
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: James Connor can you know, pound it down your throat

501
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: and he can wear down the defense and and you

502
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: know this hopefully there's um there's value to running back

503
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: that can score an eighty yard run, but there's also

504
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: so much value to a running back that you can

505
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: give the ball to in a four minute drill when

506
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Speaker 1: you're trying to protect the lead. And there's not a

507
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: lot of teams in the NFL that have both on

508
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Speaker 1: their roster, and I feel like the Cardinals do. If

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Speaker 1: you're Cliff Kingsbury, what questions do you want an answer

510
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: to by the time camp is done? Camp starts next

511
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: week Tuesday, veterans report, by the time they play the

512
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: three preseason games and they get ready for that heavyweight

513
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: till at Tennessee Week one in September twelfth, what sort

514
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Speaker 1: of answers do you think Cliff Kingsbury wants and or

515
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: what's the biggest question mark or two you think in

516
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: his mind right now? All right, So we talked about

517
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: the inside linebackers. I think that's the big one. You've

518
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: got two young players, You've got two dynamic athletes. It's

519
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: will they be ready week one? How you know? Will

520
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: they be prepared? You know, because I feel like teams

521
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: are going to see them lined up in the middle,

522
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: especially early on the schedule with those first two games,

523
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: in their running attack, and they're going to try to

524
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: find way to attack these young linebackers. UM, I want

525
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: to know, and I'm sure Coach Kingsbury you know last

526
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: year tight end was a valuable weapon for this team

527
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: and Dan Arnold was a key contributor, especially late in

528
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: the season and in the red zone. UM, I'd like

529
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: to know if if one of the tight ends on

530
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: the rosters is gonna be that guy that's going to

531
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: get those get those reps and make the plays that

532
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: Dan Arnold made for this offense last year. Um. And

533
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: to me, um, you know, this team's in the playoffs

534
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: with consistent kicking and making field goals and clutch situations

535
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: last year. So UM, you know I would like to

536
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with Matt Prador. Matt Prader at times in

537
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: his career has been one of the best kickers in

538
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: the NFL. Um you know, I think I think you'd

539
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: like to feel really good by the time training camp

540
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: is over about where he's at and how he's going

541
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: to help this team late in games this year. So, Kyle,

542
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: we're going to talk in the next beautiful part of

543
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: the program about what you're gonna look for, what Paul's

544
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna look for, what I'm going to look for in camp.

545
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: What are you gonna look for training camp? What's the

546
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: first thing you want to watch? Well, I want to

547
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: see So we brought in some veteran talent, and you

548
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: know it's J. J. Watt, AJ Green, Rodney Huntson. At

549
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: their peaks, each of them was either the best or

550
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: among the best at their position in the NFL. And

551
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: if we can get that out of our veteran players,

552
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, this team is gonna be

553
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: tough to stop. So it'll be I want to see

554
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: where they're at. I want to see what they look like,

555
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: how they're moving around, and who they're bringing along with them,

556
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: because there's no question, this team addressed it and brought

557
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: in leadership. But a good team needs needs leaders, but

558
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: they also need followers. They need guys who are going

559
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: to see how these veterans got to these premier players

560
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: got to where they're at in their careers and had

561
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: the success they had and emulate that and follow because

562
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: I've I've been on teams with both where um, you know,

563
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: there's great leaders and everybody's on board and they're with

564
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: them and they're going to follow. And then there's there's

565
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: players that you know, it's like trying to squeeze water

566
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: from a rock, Like they you just can't get anything

567
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: out of them. They're they're unable to follow, they're unable

568
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: to get on board, and they look at these elite

569
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: players as they're just different and I can't be like that.

570
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: So I'm looking to see, you know, how this leadership

571
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: makes a difference, How this dynamic in the locker room

572
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: affects training camp, the enthusiasm for training camp, the enthusiasm

573
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: is as the opening game approaches, and really see where

574
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Speaker 1: it takes this team. Well, Kyle, if you want to

575
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: see Wolf's car collection, now is the time to do it.

576
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: It's the only time a year where his cars are

577
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: actually clean because of the monsoon reign. Otherwise he drives

578
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: around he can't even see out his windshield. So you're

579
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: you're right on with that one. I mean his car

580
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: collections right there with Larry Fitzgerald. But now's the time

581
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: of year to see it. Yeah, he's like Jay Leno okay,

582
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: except you can't drive a stick. That's the only problem.

583
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: So notice Wolf. By the way, Kyle also use the

584
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: words prove it every day. It wasn't just prove it,

585
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: it's prove it every day. It's the state of proving it.

586
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: That's all you've got to be in. It's a two

587
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: man game, me and Kyle Vanabosh already and Rare the

588
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: fast body. Thank you, appreciate it, guys, appreciate you. Man.

589
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: All right, we will see him next week at Cardinals

590
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: cam Man. A lot of good stuff there from KVB.

591
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: We'll get into that and we'll answer that question Wolf,

592
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: posed about what do you want to see a cam

593
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: next on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford

594
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: in Gilbert had a little Jet Sweet Rundell More. We'll

595
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: get the first down and much more. How about this kid,

596
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: I think they can catch him more tout out. This

597
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: is the move right here, boom footing, the ground cuts

598
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: back and then there's the speed to be able to

599
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: get to the outside. You're not gonna catch him out

600
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: there forre in motion. They get it to a horsh

601
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: spaces to speed he's got underneath. Rondel what ticket off?

602
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: You were watching a burgeoning star in college football and

603
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: Rondel Moore. Yeah, that two eighteen campaign where he was

604
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Speaker 1: a consensus All American as a true freshman, And as

605
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: Drew Grigson told us, the Cardinals director of player of Personnel,

606
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: only two other players in college football history have done that.

607
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: Would you care for me to refresh your memory on

608
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: those names? Ron Wolf, Yeah, go ahead and do that.

609
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and herschel Wald. He're saying there's some credibility

610
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Speaker 1: to that right there. So wow, Whether it's the measurables,

611
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: the four two nine forty, the forty two and a

612
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: half inch vertical, the fact he was squatting six hundred

613
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: plus pounds as a freshman, I don't know if I

614
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: enjoyed that as much as I enjoyed Cliff Kingsbury in

615
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Speaker 1: the war room on flight Plan the All Access coverage

616
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Speaker 1: where he called Rondale Moore a dog, and that's intriguing.

617
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Speaker 1: At five to seven a buck eighty one, What can

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Speaker 1: Rondale Moore do for you and your offense? Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, we've talked about Rondel Moore when the

620
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals first drafted him, Paully, we had this conversation, and

621
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Speaker 1: his horizontal game is incredible, there's no doubt about that.

622
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: But I think the vertical game is really gonna be

623
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Speaker 1: key for Rondale Moore at this level, at the next level,

624
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: the National Football League, the highest level our species can generate.

625
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: He's got to be able to threaten the defense down

626
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: the field. And if you tell me that he's able

627
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: to do that, actually make an impact. It's not only

628
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: just lining up and running buy somebody. That'll scare a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Paul, that'll scare a dB as well. They

630
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: know who the guys are who can actually line up

631
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Speaker 1: and run by them. They understand who they are, they

632
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: know the scouting report, they watch the tape, they're all

633
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: over it as well. But you have to be able

634
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: to run by him and then catch the ball. You

635
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: have to be able to finish the deal. You have

636
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: to be able to make chunk throws down the field

637
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray putting it up. That's one of the

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Speaker 1: areas he can really improve this year is making chunk

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Speaker 1: throws down the field. And I think Rondale Moore is

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Speaker 1: remember what JJ Nelson, the speedster right the Burner, told

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Speaker 1: us on one edition of The Big Red Rage that

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Speaker 1: he would split out wide when he got his reps,

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Speaker 1: and cornerbacks literally would tell him pre snap, hey, don't

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Speaker 1: be running that four to eight now. Yeah, okay, don't

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Speaker 1: don't be using that blazing speed. And yeah he had

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Speaker 1: the speed, but he never had the rest of the game.

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Speaker 1: So you got to be a player first and then

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Speaker 1: the measurable second before that round two this year, you

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Speaker 1: remember how Dez bryan former Cowboys receiver, tweeted out and

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Speaker 1: I quote Rondale Moore instant impact wherever he goes. Remember

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Speaker 1: this tweet that was quoting Dez Bryant. Here's Drew Grigson,

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Speaker 1: the aforementioned Drew Grigson and what he saw from Rondel Moore.

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Speaker 1: This is on The Big Red Rage. This offseason, He's

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Speaker 1: gonna make his dynamic inside. He's arguably the best Ronifer

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Speaker 1: catch guy in this draft, and he hits it straight line.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. But this kid's ability to move lad early,

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Speaker 1: and I mean he just get teleports. He hasn't just

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Speaker 1: changed directions. It's unbelievable to watch. He's a video game

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Speaker 1: in real life. Every one of the defensive coaches say

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Speaker 1: the other day, this kid looks quick and slow motion. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just can't win that. I just I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: see him for seventeen games for us. He was serious,

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Speaker 1: he was he was all right. So, well, if do

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Speaker 1: you have Rondel Moore penciled in as the rookie is

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Speaker 1: going to make the most immediate impact, are you going

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Speaker 1: on with saving Collins obviously the starter at inside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: You know, the likes of a corner like a Marco Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think? You know what? Honestly, Paula,

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Speaker 1: I think Zavan Collins is going to have even big

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Speaker 1: or impact one way or the other, some good in

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Speaker 1: some bad. I mean that's the way that it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be with Zaven Collins. If in fact, you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: into a regular season in the National Football League with

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Speaker 1: a rookie Mike Backer who is going to be wearing

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Speaker 1: the green dot. Man, hold onto your butt, Polly. That's

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Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say right now, because the learning curve

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Speaker 1: on that is so steep, and I'm not saying Zaven

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Speaker 1: Collins doesn't have the wherewithal to actually learn that and

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Speaker 1: do that and not struggle mightily. But man, if he does,

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Speaker 1: he's a different cat, Polly. There's no doubt about a

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Speaker 1: different kind of dog because he's gonna impact more games.

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Speaker 1: Some of it's gonna be good and some of it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be bad, and you have to wonder what the

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Speaker 1: ratio is gonna be. And that was a great observation

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Speaker 1: by cal Vanibosch that opposing coaches, offensive coordinators in particular,

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Speaker 1: will target him early. Oh, Paul, Yes, look at what

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan did in the first quarter against the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals in Week one to last year. When what they

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Speaker 1: do they send Raheem Moster out of the backfield and

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Speaker 1: isolated on Isaiah Simmons and boom, that was six. Yes, Paul,

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Speaker 1: but think about this as well, right, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: Kyle mentioned this the very first game the first two

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Speaker 1: weeks actually, but the very first game. Maybe the best

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Speaker 1: play action team in the National Football League, the Tennessee Titans,

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Speaker 1: with a running back that will challenge you at the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. They attack the line of scrimmage. They

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Speaker 1: do it downhill. They get this guy, they line them

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Speaker 1: up and they let King Henry attack the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: And Polly, if you're a linebacker like Xavian Collins and

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, and you've been watching film on this all

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Speaker 1: week long, and there he is. It's King Henry. It's

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. I've been watching this kid for years, right,

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Speaker 1: I've been in high school and there was Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: and I've been nah. I mean, you've got all these thoughts,

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Speaker 1: And do you think they're gonna be hyped up to

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Speaker 1: attack the line of scrimmage when Derrick Henry runs downhill? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And then what's Ryan Tannehill gonna do and run down situation?

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Speaker 1: He's gonna pull that ball out and set up in

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Speaker 1: the pocket. And now the middle of the field is

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Speaker 1: wide open because you had two backers who are are

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Speaker 1: so eager to get to the liner. They sucked up

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Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage. Do you see the problem?

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Speaker 1: I heard Nate Brulson on the NFL Network saying that

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Speaker 1: Tennessee's offense might be historically great, one of the top

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Speaker 1: five offenses of all time, perhaps by the end of

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Speaker 1: this season. Yes, Paul, and I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be because of rundown situation, because of the ability to

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Speaker 1: run the ball, the way that they do out a

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Speaker 1: twelve personnel out of thirteen personnel, where they're using one

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Speaker 1: back and three tight ends. They attack the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage and they force you to honor that, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden they make chunk throws down the field.

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Speaker 1: And again when you've got that second level sucking up,

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Speaker 1: all I can think of is aj Brown over the

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Speaker 1: top running a post and he can fly for a

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Speaker 1: big man. And then Julio Jones running the deep end

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Speaker 1: the dig route over the middle of the field. That

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Speaker 1: eight six combination in attacking that middle of the field,

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Speaker 1: when you've got linebackers that are sucking up because they're

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Speaker 1: trying to stop Derek Henry, and you know what, That's

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Speaker 1: where I was going next. I mean, do you think

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Speaker 1: one of the two rookie corners has a chance to

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Speaker 1: make an impact from the get go of Marco Wilson,

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Speaker 1: in particular, walked in as a true freshman at Florida

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Speaker 1: and started went four years as a starter in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: I think Marco Wilson. If there is a corner that

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Speaker 1: will come in as a young guy, a rookie and

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Speaker 1: make an impact, I think Marco Wilson would be that guy.

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Speaker 1: But it's going to be a tough proposition. You've got

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, Robert Alford, and Byron Murphy and hopefully they

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Speaker 1: All right, you're Kyle Vannenbosch's list. It was inside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's watching first and foremost the tight end

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Speaker 1: position and what the Cardinals have in the absence of

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Speaker 1: Dan Arnold. Is there a tight end still coming? With

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Speaker 1: a time time sign? What will wolf watch a training camps?

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Speaker 1: It starts next week next on the Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for the yes? Signed to the Cardinals?

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Speaker 1: He really did? Yes? You know what? I think that

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Speaker 1: might be the designated motivational speaker pregame. You bring that

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Speaker 1: kid in right there, that video that went viral. Bring

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Speaker 1: him in to give all of pep talk. He can

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Speaker 1: be the Tyron Matthew speech before the game. Class Campbell

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Speaker 1: used to do it. Maybe it's J. J. Watt now,

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Speaker 1: but when in doubt, you know, go with the young

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Speaker 1: backer right baller speaking of wasn't there a training camp

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Speaker 1: where you and Eric Hill? Well, look, you and Eric

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Speaker 1: love for easy. By the way, you got the ultimate

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Speaker 1: Eric Hill. I still remember you had just retired. Eric

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Speaker 1: Hill was still playing and asked him about you, and

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Speaker 1: and he raised that one eyebrow and he said, that

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Speaker 1: for you. And what a savage you were speaking of

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Speaker 1: to you with a few minutes left. What are you

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Speaker 1: gonna watch? We heard Kvb's list there, Kyle vannibosh inside

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Speaker 1: linebacker's tight end and then the kicking game. What about you?

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Speaker 1: You know? For me, Polly, it's just this team isn't

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Speaker 1: more physical. Steve Kim of course said in the off

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Speaker 1: season they needed better leadership and they needed to be

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Speaker 1: more physical. Those two things right there, Polly, And you

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Speaker 1: chiming in when we were making these observations about the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. But in the second half of the season,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals had to be more physical at the point

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Speaker 1: of attack on both sides of the ball. And that

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Speaker 1: is something that I think Steve Kime knows. It's something

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury knows as well. I just want to see

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Speaker 1: if they are more physical, because just going out and

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Speaker 1: getting physical players really doesn't make you more physical until

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Speaker 1: you put them in a scheme that allows them to

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Speaker 1: use that physicality. Does that make sense? Yeah, now that's

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Speaker 1: a great point. Absolutely. I'll say this. Look, they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be in pads till day five, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be watching the cornerbacks from the get go because you

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Speaker 1: can tell whether corners can cover. You don't need pads

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Speaker 1: on to make that deduction. Malcolm Butler, Byron Murphy, Robert Alpherd,

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Speaker 1: the two rookies. So we've got our eyes on those

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Speaker 1: guys in that position group because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: questions right there. Special thanks to Cale Van and Bosh,

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