1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan, one 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: of the two men at the center of a viral 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Walleye cheating scandal, is being charged with another crime in 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania County Court. Chase Kaminski has been charged with forgery 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: after he allegedly gave his son to counterfeit one dollar bills. 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: According to a criminal complaint obtained by local media, Kaminski 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: gave his son, eighteen year old Caden Kaminsky, the counterfeit 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: cash to purchase games at a bowling alley in a 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: town called Hermitage. Hermitage. Her Hermitage, however, you pencil tucky 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: and say it means a place of religious seclusion and 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: his home to the Hickory Hornets. But you already knew 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: that is Kaminski, the kingpin of a counterfeit operation, and 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: not exactly. Employees at ten Pin Alley noticed the bills 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: were counterfeit because they were printed with the words for 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: motion pictures purposes and not legal tender. The bills were 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: probably movie prop money, which looks like real cash but 20 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have the right texture. Show me abody else. Caden 21 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Kaminski allegedly used one of the bills successfully, so he 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: texted his dad bring one of those hundred dollar bills. 23 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: Chase Kaminsky can then be seen on security footage handing 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: something to his son. Chase faces a forgery charge, while 25 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Caden faces charges of forgery, criminal conspiracy, and theft by deception. 26 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Chase Kaminsky rocketed to the national spotlight last year after 27 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: he and his fishing partner put weights in fish to 28 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: win a lucrative walleye fishing tournament. I should say a 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: allegedly put weights in fish to win a fishing contest 30 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: because the fish could have eaten those weights prior to 31 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: being caught. At least that's what I believe they're going 32 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: to try to prove, as Kaminski and Jacob Runyon pleaded 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: not guilty to those charges back in October. While I 34 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: that are obviously too heavy, Benjamin's that are obviously fake. 35 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I think I'm starting to see a pattern here. If 36 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Kaminsky wants to be a successful criminal, he should probably 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: start taking other people's observation skills a bit more seriously. 38 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: And that's just friendly advice. But I can't wait to 39 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: see what the defense is on his latest charge. This week. 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: We've got heaps of legislation and so much more. But 41 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: first I'm gonna tell you about my week. And my 42 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: week was interesting and you know, as interesting as it 43 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: ever is. The lead off with a big win for 44 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: goose hunters or loss for those of you who hunt 45 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: geese but somehow don't eat them. Super simple two meal 46 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: Canada goose leg recipe. You're ready. I'm gonna make this 47 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: fast because it's very simple. Take all your goose legs 48 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: and thighs, throw them in a large pressure cooker. Fill 49 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: that pressure cooker just past the three quarters full mark 50 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: with water. I had eighteen legs and thighs on this route. 51 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: That's what I'm going off of here, Okay, for reference, 52 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Let that peek cooker rip for thirty or forty minutes, 53 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: then turn the heat off and walk away for a 54 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: couple hours, letting it cool down. When you return to 55 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: the pressure cooker, take all the legs and thighs, put 56 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: them in a large bowl. Place the reserve liquid or stock. 57 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: At this point in the freezer while you shred the 58 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: meat from the bones, looking carefully for bird shot. Discard 59 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: the bones. Save your bird shot, you know, in that 60 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: jar that you use to keep all the little bits 61 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: bird shot that you collect over the year, just for 62 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: that purpose. One of these days, I'm gonna kill a 63 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: turkey with recycled bird shot, and you're gonna hear all 64 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: about it. Now the shred and the meat's all done, 65 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: Grab your liquid out of the freezer, pull that goose 66 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: fat lid from the top. Then dump three quarters of 67 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: the stock back into the shredded meat. Stir thoroughly, use 68 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: your hands. Break up the big meat chunks and two 69 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: smaller pieces roughly, you know, no bigger than cent piece. 70 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Then add in a whole bottle of bakings spelled B 71 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: A C H A N S Japanese barbecue sauce. I 72 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: love this stuff. Mix that stuff thoroughly into the meat. 73 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: If the meat still looks a little dry, put in 74 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more of the reserve stock. Mix it 75 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: up some more, you know, wash rints. Repeat. Now at 76 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: this point you can put this meat straight onto a bun, 77 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: make a barbecue sandwich, let us wraps, put it on 78 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: top of baked potatoes, nachos, French fries, add a little 79 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: raw white onion. It's great. It's stupid easy. It's simple. 80 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Now for the second meal, that same meat, spread it 81 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: about an inch deep in a cast iron pan and 82 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: place that pan underneath the broiler at five hundred degrees 83 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: for about twenty five minutes, turning the meat until every 84 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: piece has a little bit of char to it. That 85 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: sugar in the barbecue sauce, you know what I mean. 86 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: This stuff is super addictive, very very tasty. Throw it 87 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: on top of rice, Add more sauce. It's goose carnitas 88 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: with Japanese barbecue sauce. It's fantastic. And again it's that simple. 89 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: That's two meals, simple, prep delicious. Now, all you big 90 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: tough goose hunters have to do is not only save 91 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: your legs and thighs, but actually eat them. Do not 92 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: right in to ask Cal at the meat eater dot 93 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: Com to tell me that I'm not killing enough geese 94 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: if I keep the legs, implying that everything in goose 95 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: hunting is justifiable. The sometimes tens of thousands of dollars 96 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: of decoys, enclosed trailers, blind building blinds, fuel, hotel rooms, 97 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: dog purchasing dog training, shotguns, shotgun shells, hours of set 98 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: up and take down mud. None of that is an issue, 99 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: but the extra couple of minutes per bird of cleaning 100 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: are somehow not justifiable. Don't bother writing in to ask 101 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: cal A s K C A L At the Meat 102 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: Eater dot com, unless, that is, you have an argument 103 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: that can somehow support that which I will read aloud 104 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: on this show. Think you found my pet Peeve? Huh uh. 105 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: Now for a special legislative section of the My Week 106 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: section here on the podcast, I ran up to the 107 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: state Capitol to address a bunch of Montana State senators 108 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: from western Montana as well as a state Senator from 109 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: eastern Montana, as well as the Governor, Greg gene Forte, 110 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: regarding a hot topic, Conservation Ease Months. As you may recall, 111 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: I made the decision to invest two dollars worth of 112 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: our collective Meat Eater Land Access Initiative dollars which all 113 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: of you helped to raise towards a series of Conservation 114 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: Ease Months put together by the Trust for Public Lands 115 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: and several large timber companies. This is a classic ticking 116 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: clock scenario, as all of these agreements have timelines on 117 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: when the cash needs to be put down. There is 118 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: currently some uneasiness regarding the Conservation Ease months, in particular 119 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: the word permanent that goes with them. The way conservation 120 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Ease Months work in Montana is the state basically buys 121 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: the right to trespass on private property, just like in 122 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: the Montana Great Outdoors Project, which is where the Land 123 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: Access Initiative dollars have gone. Timber company land private land. 124 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: They maintain the working nature of the forest, but they 125 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: sell a certain amount of trust pass rights which will 126 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: answer in perpetuity with the land, in this case hunting, fishing, snowmobiling, 127 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: cutting firewood. The landowners can set restrictions for fire danger 128 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: or active commercial timber harvest. They have to adhere to 129 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: a certain management plan. The land stays in the tax 130 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: base but can't be subdivided. I spoke with Senator hind 131 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Bob of Wiebow, Montana, who authored a bill that would 132 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: prevent the State of Montana from entering into permanent conservation 133 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: easements and would obviously be terrible for the Land Access 134 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: Initiative project. We had a great conversation. I told him 135 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: all about the Land Access Initiative. I found the Senator 136 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: to be a super nice guy, even though we were 137 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: on two different sides of the fence on this issue. 138 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: His stance is this permanent is a long time, and 139 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: what if and what if and what if, which is 140 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: a legitimate point. It is very interesting that the senator's 141 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: ranch shares offense with a neighbor who did complete a large, 142 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: contentious conservation easement called Creek. Since we spoke, his bill 143 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: has been heavily amended. You can look it up s 144 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: B forty two. That Senate Bill forty two. Senator Heinbach 145 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: also introduced s BT eight Senate Bill fifty eight, which 146 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: has been moved up to the House. SP fifty eight 147 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: would increase the maximum allowable payment for landowners enrolled in 148 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: block management, which is our private land public access program 149 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: and something I am very much in favor of. I'll 150 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: wrap this easemant segment up with this. We can agree 151 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: that permanent is a long time, but we also need 152 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: to recognize that if a property subdivides and put sixty 153 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: eight hundred houses on it, or worse, a dozen houses 154 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: with forty or sixty or hundred and twenty acres apiece, 155 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: that's pretty damn permanent. Two. I was also fortunate enough 156 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: to get some time with Governor Greg gene Forte and 157 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: his staff talking about again conservation ease months and this 158 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: is what the Governor had to say. We've chalked up 159 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: some big conservation wins in Montana over the last two 160 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: years on the Lower Yellowstone and the Big Snowy's Mount Hagen, 161 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: and as we evaluate future projects, they've gotta check some 162 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: particular boxes that are important to Montana's First, does it 163 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: increase public access? Secondly, does it improve habitat Third, doesn't 164 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: support a working landscape either through agg or forest management, 165 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: And finally, does it have the support of the local community. 166 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: The Montana Great Outdoors Project proposals checks all of these boxes. 167 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 1: We're excited about it and look forward to supporting projects 168 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: like it in the future. And we appreciate the Meat 169 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: Eater Land Access Initiative joining with the state to contribute 170 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: financially to this project. Before we move on to the 171 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: legislation desk, I definitely want to thank Governor Genefote and 172 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: his staff for giving me a few minutes on a 173 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: very busy day during Montana's legislative session. Moving on to 174 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: the legislation desk, Marylanders will have a chance this year 175 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: to speak up about several bills the Humane Society is 176 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: calling quote Wildlife coexistence bills. You can see where this 177 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: is going. HB one would change the makeup of the 178 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: state's Wildlife Advisory Commission to require the governor to appoint 179 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: members from the quote wildlife preservation and passive wildlife recreation communities. 180 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: The Wildlife Advisory Commission advises the Department of Natural Resources 181 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: on wildlife matters, so it has a great deal of 182 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: power in the development of hunting and fishing regulations. The 183 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: Humane Society wants to see the commission changed because quote, 184 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: residents and visitors in Maryland who spend time outdoors without 185 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: harming wildlife out number and outspend hunters and trappers by 186 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: a wide margin. They also claim that public attitudes have 187 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: changed dramatically in recent years to embrace coexistence with wildlife 188 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: and value its importance. Yet historically those constituents have had 189 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: little to no say and policy decisions that affect Maryland's wildlife. 190 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: If you've been paying attention to this issue, you know 191 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: that this bill is part of a larger movement to 192 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: remove hunters and anglers from their powerful positions. In influencing 193 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: wildlife policy. These folks draw line between hunters and so 194 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: called non consumptive wildlife recreators, a term I have a 195 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: huge issue with anyway to argue that hikers and campers 196 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: deserve a larger seat at the table. They often don't 197 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: acknowledge as a whole body of research suggests that any 198 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: human presence on the landscape is potentially harmful to wildlife. 199 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: In Utah, for example, officials just ended shed hunting for 200 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the year to give mule deer a better shot at 201 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: surviving this year's harsh winter. Shed hunters aren't killing animals, 202 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: but the Utah Department of Wildlife Resources understands that big 203 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: game animals are weakened and vulnerable to repeated human cause disturbances. 204 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: That's why when the Humane Society talks about passive wildlife 205 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: recreators and those who spend time in the outdoors without 206 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: harming wildlife, I tend to roll my eyes. Another bill 207 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: in Maryland, HB four oh six, would require trappers to 208 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: obtain a number from the Department of Natural Resources and 209 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: to fix that number to all their traps. What's more, 210 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: the bill would encourage anyone who finds a trap without 211 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: the required number to inform on the trapper. If you 212 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: want to weigh in on either of these bills, get 213 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: in touch with your Maryland legislators. In Kentucky, state vice 214 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: chair of back Country Hunters and Anglers Nick Hart wrote 215 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: in to tell me about House Bill. This bill would 216 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: eliminate what's known as the open fields doctrine. This doctrine 217 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: allows law enforcement officers to enter open fields without a warrant, 218 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: even if those fields are on private property. Game warden's 219 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: use this power to enforce game laws, and it was 220 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: confirmed in the Supreme Court decision known as Hester the 221 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: United States, but some states reject this doctrine and still 222 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: require their game wardens to obtain a warrant. This bill 223 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: would put Kentucky on that list. A law enforcement officer 224 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: could only enter private property without a warrant if they've 225 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: received permission from the landowner, are responding to an emergency, 226 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: or are trying to dispatch a wounded animal. If you 227 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: want my take, I've already given a t on this one. Alright. 228 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: Fourth Amendment, Big deal private property rights, big deal public wildlife. 229 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: Big deal that public wildlife does not cease to be 230 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: public if it's on private ground. This is incredibly contentious stuff. 231 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: The waters here are turbulent, all right, and House Bill 232 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: one is just another attempt to somehow balance the regulation 233 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: of a public resource that does not stay within designated 234 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: boundaries and private property rights very difficult. In a perfect world, 235 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: the law would allow for law enforcement to go wherever 236 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: they want, and they would have no reason to do 237 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: so because nobody would be breaking the law vice versa. 238 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: In a perfect world, the law wouldn't peel how to 239 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: go anywhere on private property, and they still wouldn't have 240 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: any reason to do so because nobody would be breaking 241 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: the law. But how may I ask you, do we 242 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: properly regulate public wildlife that does not belong to anybody 243 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: with a thousand acres or zero acres more than anybody else. Right, 244 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: it's equitable belongs to all of us. That's why my 245 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: hackles really get raised when we see regulation changes that 246 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: only pertain to private ground, or only pertain to public ground. 247 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: That resource does not know what side of the three 248 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: strand barb wire fence that's on. What is the perfect solution, Well, 249 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: we need to recalibrate what our sense of ownership is 250 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: in these resources. We need to understand that it belongs 251 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: to all of us, no matter how many food plots 252 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: you put in or how tall your fence is, in 253 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: my opinion, and if you don't want to do that, 254 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: you've got to build a really tall fence. It's tough. 255 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: What's your perfect solution. Don't bother right and in if 256 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: you think wildlife should be called private if they step 257 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: on your side of the fence. Moving on to New Mexico, 258 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: the state's Wildlife Commission is in disarray after a recent 259 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: resignation left them without enough members to reach a quorum. 260 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: Until a new member is appointed, they cannot conduct any 261 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: business or address any wildlife related issues. The office of 262 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: Governor Michelle Luhan Grisham told the AP that they're planning 263 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: to appoint another commissioner in time for the next meeting. 264 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: But this latest fiasco is another point of criticism against 265 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: Governor Grisham, who some say has used the commission to 266 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: play political games. That's why some state legislators have proposed 267 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: bills that change the way the commission operates. Right now, 268 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: the governor appoints all seven commissioners. H would allow the 269 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: Legislative Council to appoint four of the seven members, which 270 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: would be enough to reach a quorum. The Legislative Council 271 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: appointees would consist of a rancher or farmer, a conservationist 272 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: from wildlife organization not focused on game species, a hunter angler, 273 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: and a scientist who has at least a master's degree 274 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: in wildlife biology or a similar field. The bill would 275 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: also take away the governor's ability to dismiss a commissioner, 276 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: allowing the state Supreme Court to take action in cases 277 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: of competence or malfeasance. The bill has already passed the 278 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: House Government, Elections and Indian Affairs Committee on a seven 279 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: to two vote. If you'd like to weigh in, get 280 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: in touch with your new Mexico legislators about HBEO, or 281 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: visit the meat eater dot com forward slash col where 282 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: you can find all sorts of great information. Jumping over 283 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: to the w y oh Wyoming Nights will get a 284 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: head start on shed hunting next year if HBE passes 285 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: the Center. The bill would allow the State Wildlife Commission 286 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: to set seasons and regulations for shed hunting, and it 287 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: would require that residents be allowed to start shed hunting 288 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: three days before non residents This shed hunting season would 289 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: only apply to public land, so landowners and those with 290 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: permission to look on private land would be unaffected. The 291 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: bill passed the House in a forty eight to thirt 292 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: vote and is now being considered by the Senate Wildlife 293 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: and Cultural Resources Committee. Moving on to the military desk, 294 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: a major general in the U. S. Army was suspended 295 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: from duty last week following allegations that he had violated 296 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: hunting rules on the base. The Army announced earlier this 297 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: month that Major General Kenneth Camper has been suspended from 298 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: his position as commanding General of the U. S. Army 299 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: Fire Center of Excellence at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. The Department 300 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: of the Army Inspector General is currently investigating Camper, and 301 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: Military dot Com spoke with multiple sources who say he 302 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: had repeatedly violated hunting rules on the base. We have 303 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: our own sources here at Cal's weekend review, and I 304 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: have a few additional details. A listener wrote in who's 305 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: also stationed at Fort Sill, and he told me that 306 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: there could be some serious federal charges coming down the pipe. 307 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's hearsay. I believe it's a credible source, 308 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: and I'll just say that the Major General very well 309 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: may have ordered the code red, if you know what 310 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean. But it's not just him. There may be 311 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: at least a dozen people who are implicated in the investigation, 312 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: mostly within the Major General's inner circle. I reached out 313 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: to the Army Press Office to confirm these allegations, but 314 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: they ignored my questions and sent me to the same 315 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: statement reported by other media outlets. Army spokeswoman cynthia O 316 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: Smith did confirm that the investigation is not related to 317 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: sexual misconduct, which is especially good news considering the alleged 318 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: involvement of deer and elk. There's definitely a jag episode 319 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: in here somewhere. Speaking of authority figures illegally hunting while 320 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: on duty, an officer with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police 321 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: resigned recently after trying to hunt a caribou from his 322 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: police car. Back in March of two thousand, thirty three 323 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: year old Carl to Boris Chevalry was returning from the 324 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: Bunnet Bonnie Creed Nation in Manitoba, Canada. While driving a 325 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: fully marked police vehicle. He encountered a caribou near the 326 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: road and decided on a quick impromptu hunt. He shot 327 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: at the animal with his patrol issued car being but 328 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: instead of hitting the caribou, he hit his own car 329 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: by mistake. I haven't been able to find exactly how 330 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: this happened. I assumed he was trying to use his 331 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: car as a rest and the bullets, you know, danced 332 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: off the hood, but that's just a guess. Anyway, Mounty 333 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: Carl figured he wouldn't be able to hide his infractions 334 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: given the bullet holes in his car, so he told 335 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: his supervising officer about the incident. When he got back 336 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: to h Q. An investigation was launched and Mounty Carl 337 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: was dismounted. You could say he was charged last month 338 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: with the use of a prohibited firearm in a careless 339 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: manner and hunting without a license. Moving on to the 340 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: mail bag. By now, you've probably heard about the AI 341 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: software known as chat GPT. It's kind of a conversation 342 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: bought that can answer questions, right essays, and even tell jokes. 343 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: A listener from Australia named Dylan Picks wrote in this 344 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: week to tell me about another thing that chat GPT 345 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: can do, and I gotta say I'm pretty impressed. Dylan 346 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: is from South Australia, whereas we've covered before, the government 347 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: is considering banning bow hunting, so Dylan asked chat GPT 348 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: to write a letter to the Deputy Premier urging a 349 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: reconsideration of the bow hunting band. I won't read you 350 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: the whole thing, but here's a part of what chat 351 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: GPT spit out their Deputy Premiere. I hope this letter 352 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: finds you well. I'm writing to you today the Express 353 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: paston opposition to the ban on bow hunting in South Australia. 354 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: As an avid hunter and conservationist, I believe that this 355 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: ban has misguided and does not properly address the concerns 356 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: about wildlife conservation and hunting practices in the state. Bow 357 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: Hunting has a long and rich history in South Australia 358 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: and is a popular recreational activity for many residents. It 359 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: is a humane and efficient method of hunting that provides 360 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: significant economic benefits to rural communities and supports conservation efforts 361 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: through the management of wildlife populations. Not bad for a computer. 362 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: Dylan pointed out that the letter wasn't on factually correct 363 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: and it needed some additional tweaking. It's also worth pointing 364 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: out that these AI boats can be biased. They also 365 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: aren't buying conservation stamps. Their programmers encode those biases in 366 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: their software. So don't expect chat GPT to take your 367 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: position on every issue. But if you've been wanting to 368 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: write to your representatives about some of the legislation we've 369 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: been covering, chat GPT good give you a good place 370 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: to start. Another listener from Australia, Steve Murphy, wrote in 371 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: with a good reminder for hunters. Here in the United States, 372 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: even though only small percentage of Americans actually hunt, we 373 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: enjoy widespread support from the general public. That isn't true 374 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: of Australia, and Steve is worried that the lack of 375 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: public support will result in a ban on duck hunting 376 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: in Victoria and South Australia. Because there are so few hunters, 377 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: they haven't been able to maintain political support generated by 378 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: revenue from hunting licenses, stamps and tags. Quote. The result 379 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: has been an ever decreasing lack of support for hunting 380 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: within the wider community, fewer and fewer hunters being recruited, 381 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: and eventually the tipping point being reached where politicians sided 382 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: with anti hunting sentiment, which looks increasingly likely to result 383 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: in the introduction of laws that will outlaw the practice altogether. Hunters, 384 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: Steve says, need to maintain a critical mass to keep 385 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: their public support. Without it, it becomes much easier for 386 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: anti hunting for russ to come in and have their way. Quote. 387 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: The lesson here for the US is that numbers matter. 388 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: The Victorian situation is a real life example of what 389 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: can happen without a strong hunting community. There's been a 390 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: debate over the last few years about hunter recruitment efforts 391 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: and overcrowding on US public land. In Australia's example doesn't 392 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: settle that controversy, but it is an important reminder that 393 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: we shouldn't take public support for granted. We should do 394 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: everything we can to maintain our political and cultural influence 395 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: so we can be sure that future generations have the 396 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: same opportunities to hunt and fish that we enjoy. It's 397 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: a great point, Steve, and I hate to be a nag, 398 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: but that's why you got to reach out to your representatives, 399 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you've voted for him or not, if 400 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: they're in political party that you like or not, and 401 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: let them know when they're doing things right with a 402 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: thank you and let them know when they're doing things wrong. Yes, 403 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: it's a pain in the ass because you have to 404 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: pay attention and hold these people accountable, but it's the 405 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: only way this thing works. Thank you so much for listening. 406 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: That's all I've got for you this week. Remember to 407 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: write in to a s k C. A L. That's 408 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: asked cal at the Meat Eater dot com and let 409 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: me know what's going on in your neck of the woods. 410 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Further. 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