1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob Lamb. 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Today we are rerunning an episode that originally published three 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty twenty four. It is Dead Mountaineers Hotel. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: This is a weird one. This is very thought provoking. 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, I recommend checking this movie out. 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Either way, we hope you enjoy our episode on Dead 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Mountaineer's Hotel. 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. My name is Rob Lamb. 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: I am Joe McCormick. 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: So it's time to check another country off of the 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Weird House Cinema list. You know, we can imagine our 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: global map and we're putting pens in the different countries 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: that we've visited via the cinematic output of set Nation. 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: This time we're going to Estonia and sorry, rants, we'll 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: get to you with it. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: That's right. Today we're going to be talking about the 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine Estonian Soviet sci fi detective film Dead 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: Mountaineers Hotel, directed by Grigory Kromanov, based on a story 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: by the brothers Boris and Arcati. Strugatsky, who also wrote 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: the source material for another one of my favorite weird 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: Soviet films, which is Tarkovsky's Stalker. In fact, that movie 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: was released the same year as this movie. Both came 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: out in nineteen seventy nine, so a big year for 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: the brothers Strugatsky. I had never seen Dead Mountaineer's Hotel 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: before this past week. I was attracted to it after 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 3: I saw some very intriguing stills online featuring weird sets 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: full of mirrors and some very striking shot composition with 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: interesting use of color. And then I read reviews characterizing 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: this movie as a bizarre but generally quite well liked 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: Eastern European film noir with subversive science fiction themes and 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: several heaping spoonfuls of what is going on? So this 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: is the sort of pull toward the film was was 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: amplified when I went to Videodrome and I saw the 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: employees there had posted a recommendation on this film, so 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: I decided that I had to get it check it out. 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: So it was Estonian sci fi detective week for me. 38 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: And you know, despite all of that, Prepper I was 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: still incredibly surprised by this film I'll do a short 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: synopsis of the setup, the sort of first third of 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: the movie. It is about a police inspector named Glebski 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: working in some country in capitalist western Europe. Did they 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: ever specify what country it is? I think it's unnamed. 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: I think it is unnamed. It's just miscellaneous European country, 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: which is sometimes my favorite country to go to in cinema. 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: Right. So, he's a policeman working somewhere further western Europe, 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: in some alpine region, and he is called to a 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: remote ski lodge up in the mountains known as the 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: Dead Mountaineers Hotel. But once he arrives, it seems he 50 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: was summoned on a false alarm. The other guests at 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: the hotel behave very strangely and something is not what 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: it seems. Then suddenly there is at the same time 53 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: an avalanche cutting the guests off from the rest of 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 3: the world and a murder putting Inspector Glebsky, sort of 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: taking him out of vacation mode and putting him back 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: into on duty mode. 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because initially he's like, well, it took me so 58 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: long to get up here, and it's a little misty 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: out I'm clearly going to have to spend the night 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: here and drink something exactly. But then yeah, back on 61 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: duty when the murder occur. 62 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to dance to some really good Estonian 63 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: proud rock. Now at this point, I think we're gonna 64 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: have to go ahead and deal with something, which is 65 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: that this film has major surprises that develop across its 66 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: run time, and it would be rob I think you'd agree, 67 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: basically impossible for us to talk about this movie without 68 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: spoiling its big twists. 69 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Right right, And we were talking about this a little 70 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: bit off Mike beforehand. This is not a film that 71 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: is so dependent upon the twist that you cannot enjoy it. 72 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: In fact, you might enjoy it a little bit more 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: knowing the sort of territory you will get in. 74 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: I read a blog post somewhere online where the writer 75 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: was reviewing the film and said that they thought that 76 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 3: it actually worked better if you went in already knowing 77 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 3: what the twist would be. I'm not sure about that, 78 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: but that could be the case. I went in already 79 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: knowing the twist and still greatly enjoyed the movie. But 80 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: if you suspect that might not be the case for 81 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: you, you want your chance to duck out and not know 82 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: what happens later in the film. Here's your moment. Let's 83 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: do some spoiler avoidance, walk out music, flee and terror 84 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: from the revelations to come. 85 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: Your mind is not ready, Your mind is not ready. 86 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: Your mind is okay. But here you are with us 87 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: to know what happens later in the film. But you know, 88 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: part of the difficulty is that even the genre designation 89 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: of the movie spoils the twist because it is called 90 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: like a neo noir or detective science fiction film, and 91 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: there is nothing science fiction about the movie until the 92 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: twist is revealed, which is that well, one part of 93 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: the twist is not necessarily sci fi. It's more sort 94 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: of crime thriller themed, and that is that some of 95 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: the hotel guests are secretly gangsters and or terrorists. I 96 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: wasn't quite sure exactly what kind of criminal this is 97 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 3: supposed to be. But then beyond that, some other hotel 98 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: guests are robots, and yet other guests are aliens. 99 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I have to add, like, knowing that 100 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: we selected this for weird House Cinema, you might already 101 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: suspect that there will be something speculative in the plot. 102 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: But I also have to highlight that the movie is 103 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: weird enough in its texture and its tone that I 104 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: think we could have covered it even had it not 105 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: involved robots in aliens. 106 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because people have pointed this out about especially 107 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: like the sets and the music created very otherworldly atmosphere 108 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: before any technically speculative plot elements are introduced, like this 109 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: is a ski resort in the mountains, but it feels 110 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: like a set from Blade Runner. 111 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And then the score is very abstract and electronic. 112 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a bit too, But all 113 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: of this sort of you know, sets the board, and 114 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: by the time aliens and robots come around, I have 115 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: a feeling that even if you didn't know they were 116 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: going to occur, they it would not feel completely out 117 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: of left field. You would be like, oh, well, yeah, 118 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: of course. I mean, a number of human beings have 119 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: to be robots and aliens. That's where I am in 120 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: my worldview after experiencing this much of the film. 121 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of the characters are acting incredibly weird, 122 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 3: and so it seems something would have to be up 123 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: to explain the way they behave and the films I 124 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: would say the film's themes don't fully come into focus 125 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: until the final act, when, after the revelation of the 126 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: presence of aliens and robots, the policeman Glebski is put 127 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: in a position to think independently given new information, even 128 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: unprecedented information, and he has to choose whether to blindly 129 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 3: charge ahead, deferring his individual judgment and performing his official duties, 130 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 3: or to think for himself and act as a human being. 131 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: And we see Glebsky really struggling with this choice. He 132 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 3: feels very strongly pulled to just act out his official 133 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: duties as a policeman, even if they don't really make 134 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: sense in the scenario, and it would spell disaster for 135 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: visitors from another world. 136 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the making of Retrospective feature at on 137 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: the Blu Ray edition that we both watched more than 138 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: that in a minute. It shed some interesting light on 139 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: the production. So, first of all, just a bit of background, 140 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: since we're dealing with Estonian cinema here. At the time 141 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: Dead Mountaineer's Hotel was made, Estonia was the Estonian Soviet 142 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: Socialist Republic. This is essentially what it was known as 143 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: nineteen forty through nineteen forty one and then nineteen forty 144 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: four through around nineteen ninety one. The asterisk by that 145 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: date I'll explain in a second. And while Estonia had 146 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: its own distinct film, TV and theater scenes, there seems 147 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: to have to a large extent been a shared ecosystem 148 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: with Moscow based film production at the time. You know, 149 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: you seem to have a very Soviet film bureaucracy in 150 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: place governing the production of this film and other films 151 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: that were occurring throughout the than Soviet Union. For instance, 152 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: composer sim Gruenberg talks about composing music for the film 153 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: on the train back to Moscow, where he then would 154 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: record in the same studio that like later in the day, 155 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 1: another composer was going to be using to score nineteen 156 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: seventy nine Stalker, a Soviet Russian production that we just referenced. 157 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, And so given this context, one thing 158 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: that I've read about the film that makes it kind 159 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: of interesting is that, despite its the weirdness, and I 160 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: would argue subversiveness of the final product, this is a 161 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: film that was made under, from what I understand, a 162 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: heavy hand of censorship. 163 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The film was seemingly the product of 164 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: very bureaucratic film production process. In some ways it does 165 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: seems like it held it back, and we'll discuss examples 166 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: of that, but it also meant that it seems like 167 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: they had everything lined up when they were about to shoot, 168 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Like when they actually went out there, it was a 169 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: pretty well oiled machine to a large extent, very streamline production. 170 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, it seems like it maybe did limit and 171 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: in case in other cases almost limited the creativity of 172 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: the project as well. 173 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: I was reading about the making of the film in 174 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: a piece by an Estonian film critic named Carlo Funk. 175 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: It was an article published by the Estonian Film Institute, 176 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: and Funk was sort of writing about how there were 177 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: certain things you could do if you wanted to tell 178 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: a certain kind of story under this environment, that you 179 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: could have more leeway with your storytelling. For example, setting 180 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: it in the West rather than setting it like in 181 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: Estonia or something allowed more freedom allegedly to depict characters 182 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: as sort of like flawed and conflicted in their official duties. 183 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: Because you could you essentially be saying like this is 184 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,119 Speaker 1: the kind of potential depravity that can be going on elsewhere, 185 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: but not within these four rides. Just to a quick 186 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: cap on the note about Estonia. Estonia became I believe, 187 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: the first of the then Soviet controlled countries to declare 188 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: independence from Moscow and the Soviet Union, and by nineteen 189 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: ninety one, I believe the sixth of September nineteen ninety one, 190 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union recognized Estonian independence. Now key to all 191 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: of this, of course, is the hotel, the Dead Mountaineer's Hotel, 192 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: which we'll get into. We'll talk a lot about this hotel, 193 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,239 Speaker 1: and and you know, it's film, So you have exteriors 194 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: and interiors at this place. And I think if you 195 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: know anything about a filmmaking at all, you know that 196 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: these don't have to necessarily match up. Sometimes the place 197 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: where a film is shot the interiors, we are also 198 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: using the exteriors of set location. Sometimes you'll have the 199 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: have exterior shots for a particular place in your film, 200 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: and the inside of that place you're utilizing via another 201 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: location or perhaps sets. So in this film, we have 202 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: the exterior of the hotel, which does have its own 203 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: kind of character. It has this kind of like boxy 204 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: look that I quite like. It doesn't look completely rustic. 205 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: It has sort of a modern flare to it. 206 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is an asymmetrical architecture that does look like 207 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, some modern homes you would see that 208 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 3: are like a you know, a rectangle rising up here 209 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: and a slanted roof there. And it's not just like 210 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: your standard sort of boxy resort hotel shape right right. 211 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: And of course it is very remote and surrounded by 212 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: all of these snowy mountains and all very captivating. But 213 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: instead of using this location or some other kind of 214 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: like ski lodge location for the interiors, and instead of 215 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: engaging in perhaps the kind of expected rustic or perhaps 216 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: well worn interiors of an actual remote ski lodge, they said, no, no, no, 217 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: this is a science fiction film. This film deals with 218 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: futuristic ideas. We need to have a futuristic set, and 219 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: so they ended up building out these sets, and what 220 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: we have is this highly stylized like black and mirrored interior. 221 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: There's neon and the featurette on the disc describes this 222 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: as all being very much in line with Estonian hyperrealism 223 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: of the time period. 224 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what that is, but it's hyper something. 225 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: It's yes, yeah, it it doesn't feel like a real hotel, like, 226 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: it doesn't it does not at all suggest hospitality. Instead, 227 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: it is an environment that suggests mystery and doubt. And 228 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: yet despite this, it does still have some of the 229 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: features that can make a hotel or resort an exciting 230 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: location for a mystery story, like the maze like nature 231 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 3: of hallways and a hotel like that you never really 232 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: understand like what part of the building you're in or 233 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: which direction you're facing. You're just going around corners, and 234 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: this movie does. The sets do have that feeling. There's 235 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: a kind of like confusing layout of the place and 236 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: it almost suggests that it's like not physically plausible. 237 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it sounds like the set itself had this 238 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: kind of like maze like quality. They were talking about 239 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: like there being lots of places that crew members could 240 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: sort of hide and you know, have a drink or 241 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: snack and so forth. And it was apparently quite a 242 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: struggle to get everybody to be quiet for the for 243 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: the shoot. But yeah, it was a pretty elaborate build. 244 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: It wasn't cheap and on the other end, and so 245 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: I have to stress that it does not feel like 246 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: a set in that it feels like a real place, 247 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: like even though we are getting into this hyper realistic 248 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: idea of what a remote ski lodge could be. It 249 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: totally works within the context of the film, and you're 250 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: never like, oh, look at this set, unless you know, 251 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: unless I guess you're engaging in the film, you know, 252 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: outside of the film's context. But it's hard to imagine 253 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: this film having the same impact or the same flavor 254 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: at all if it were set in a more traditional 255 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: or rustic ski lodge setting, you know, that kind of 256 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: like well worn, perhaps not as easily maintained environment that 257 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: some of us may have experienced in one form or 258 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: another in remote locations. It just I can't help but 259 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: suspect that if that had been the case with this movie, 260 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: even if it still had the terrific score, the terrific 261 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: performances and this weird plot, this film might have been 262 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: more easily forgotten and it wouldn't stand out as this 263 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: kind of shining gem of Estonian film from this time period. 264 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: When you read people talking about this movie, they will 265 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: end up saying a lot of things, but often the 266 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: first thing they say is something about the striking visual 267 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: nature of it. 268 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And we'll keep touching on more specific examples 269 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: of that as we go. I'll also point out that 270 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: the featurette described this as being part of the first 271 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: and only, at least at the time that this featurette 272 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: was produced, wave of Estonian science fiction of the mid 273 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: and late nineteen seventies. So there's like this brief blip 274 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: where suddenly, and we'll touch on why some why this 275 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: might have been the case where suddenly Estonian cinema was 276 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: more concerned with science fiction and then it kind of 277 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: dies off. Though just looking around a little bit, it 278 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: looks like it looks like in recent years we have 279 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: seen more Estonian science fiction come out. So it's not like, 280 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, Estonian creatives completely abandoned the idea of science fiction. 281 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: It's more a question of, like what was being funded, 282 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: what was being produced, especially during this time period in which, 283 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: like we already we discussed like there were a lot 284 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: of bolts in place on what sort of films would 285 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: see the light of day. 286 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 3: Okay, what's your elevator pitch for the movie? 287 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: It's simple, it's ski lodge madness, Estonian style. 288 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: In a world where the ski lodge is full of robots, 289 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: one man will be a cop and not think too 290 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: much about it. 291 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, there's a lot of thinking. There's 292 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: a lot of contemplative characters in this. Well, let's go 293 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: ahead in here just a little bit of the trailer audio. 294 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: This is from the I believe, the the Estonian trailer, 295 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: so we're not going to play all of it, but 296 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: maybe just a little bit to give you some flavor. 297 00:15:41,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: Milli Luma. All right, Now, before we go into the 298 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: rest of the episode, let's talk about where you can 299 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: watch this movie as well, especially if you want to 300 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: watch it before listening to us talk about all the 301 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: details of the plot. I can't speak for other regions, 302 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: but currently over here it looks like the only way 303 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: to stream it legit is perhaps via cultpic dot com 304 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: looks like they have it. I'm not familiar with cultpick, 305 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: but it pops up on letterbox as being a place 306 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: you can stream it. We watched it on the all 307 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: region Blu ray from Camera Obscura, which also features an 308 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: optional German dub. It has English subs and an interesting 309 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: making op documentary that I've referred to already and I 310 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: may refer to again. 311 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a good disc I liked it. 312 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I had no problem playing it on an Xbox, 313 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: for example, which sometimes isn't the case with international blu 314 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: rays and so forth. All right, let's get into the 315 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: people who made this film, starting at the top with 316 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: the director, Grigory Kromanov, who lived nineteen twenty six through 317 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four Estonian director and occasionally actor, best known 318 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: internationally for this film, which was also his last of 319 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: six films. I believe this was his only genre film. 320 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: Other films included the nineteen sixty nine nineteen seventy historic 321 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: drama also described sometimes as a swashbuckler, the last. 322 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 3: Relet, Yeah, that's how I've seen it, described as sort 323 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: of historical adventure. 324 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the screenplay. The screenplay is credited to 325 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: Arkadi and Boris Strugatsky, who also wrote the novel upon 326 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: which it is based. So they adapted their own novel 327 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: here Okay. Arcatti lived nineteen twenty five through nineteen ninety 328 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: one and Boris lived nineteen thirty three through twenty twelve, 329 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: So they were Soviet Russian science fiction authors and brothers 330 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: who collaborated throughout their careers. Their best known novel is 331 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two's Roadside Picnic, which Tarkovski adapted into the 332 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine film Stalker, which we already mentioned here. 333 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: This movie is based on the nineteen seventy novel Dead 334 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: Mountaineers Hotel, a detective story that veers increasingly into the 335 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: into weird territory. Both of these books, by the way, 336 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: are widely available in English translation. I think you can 337 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: even get audiobooks of them, so you know, they're they're 338 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 1: they're available out there, along with other works of theirs 339 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: and by the way, in two thousand and nine, the 340 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: novel Dead Mountaineers Hotel was adapted into a point and 341 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: click mystery video game. What Joe, I sent you the 342 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: trailer for this and we were looking at this earlier. 343 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched this trailer for the game. I would 344 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: not have imagined this would this adaptation would take place. 345 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: That was a surprise for me, So, you know, it 346 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: got me thinking about how oh Man, back in the day, 347 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: I really did enjoy some of those those point and 348 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: click adventure games like you know, The King's Quest and 349 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: Maniac Mansion and things like that. This could be a 350 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: lot of fun. 351 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and giving the source material, I guess it 352 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: could be like I wonder, what's if you had a 353 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: video game that was not only adapted from the source material, 354 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: but based on this particular cinematic vision of said book, Like, 355 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: what would it look like? What kind of choices would 356 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: you have when you pointed and clicked on characters? You know, 357 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: would you always have the option to drink and or smoke? 358 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: Hold on? I'm just thinking, was there at some point 359 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: a Blade Runner point and click adventure game? 360 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: That sounds right. I never played any of the Blade 361 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: Runner video games, but there certainly were some video games 362 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: I think some PC game of Nah, I mean, it 363 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: is a it seems like a genre of video game 364 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: that is well adapted to you know, detective story and. 365 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: You click on the little clues and apply things to 366 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: other things in the environment. But yeah, so that's an 367 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: interesting So, as you said, this game was adapted from 368 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: the novel, so it doesn't actually pull in a lot 369 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: of the aesthetic choices from the movie adaptation. So I 370 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: was looking at it and I was like, this doesn't 371 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: seem familiar. Actually, m. 372 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: All right, So we have our inspector here, Inspector Peter Glebski, 373 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: played by Oldest Poopsies who lived nineteen thirty seven through 374 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: to the year two thousand. Yeah, this is one rugged detective. Like, 375 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: we get a lot of close ups of this guy's 376 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: face and it's perfect. It is the perfect like hard 377 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: boiled detective's face. The lines, the almost like geologic texture 378 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: to his face, you know, the depths of his eyes. 379 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: Everything you want out of a noir detective who's having 380 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: troubled thoughts. This is the guy for you. 381 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he I mean we talk about square jaws on 382 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: this show. Sometimes this is a jaw that is like 383 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: fractally square. I'm trying to think what actor I'm more 384 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 3: familiar with to compare him to. He's almost got a 385 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: kind of Jack Palin energy, you know. 386 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he reminded me a bit too of Sean Bean. 387 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: He has just facial features and also the kind of 388 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: like stern, distant eyed characters that that Bean has sometimes played. 389 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can see that because he does there 390 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: is a weariness about him. Has He very well does 391 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: that thing that's familiar to us from a lot of 392 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: movies now of the the police detective who's just sort 393 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 3: of worn out and tired of it all. 394 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so ripe, he's about to fall off the trip. 395 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: I think maybe that's what that line means. That's the 396 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: line will we'll come back. 397 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what that means, but that could be. Yeah, 398 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: I accept that interpretation. 399 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So this is easily this actor's best known 400 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: film internationally, but he was active in TV and film 401 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: of the region from the late seventies to the late 402 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: nineties and he was a Lappvian MM. Okay, so again, 403 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: absolutely strong presence in the film, you know, a nice 404 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: central performance and physical performance to base everything. 405 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 3: I read somewhere online somebody saying that the casting in 406 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: this movie has almost the sensibility of like a caricaturist, 407 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 3: that the cast is really selected for extremely distinctive looks. Yeah, 408 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: and I would say that's the case of the next 409 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: actor and character we're going to talk about, the hotel manager, 410 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 3: Alex Snavar. 411 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: That's right, played by Yuri Jarvitt, lived nineteen nineteen through 412 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, playing the owner, the weird owner of 413 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: the hotel, weird owner of a weird hotel. Estonian actor 414 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: who was also in the Last Relic and played the 415 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: lead in a nineteen seventy adaptation of King Lear, which 416 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: I think fitting given that he has a very haunted 417 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: look at times in this production and he is most 418 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: famously in Tarkowsky's nineteen seventy two science fiction film Solaris. 419 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: I believe he actually had third billion in that. 420 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't remember exactly, but I think he's one 421 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: of the scientists on the base. 422 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: He's a doctor character. 423 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this guy. What I'm about to say 424 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: might feel like it doesn't make any sense, but stick 425 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: with me. I would almost describe his energy as sweet, 426 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: cuddly Kinsky, Like if you could imagine a mirror image, 427 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: like like, suck all the evil and poison out of 428 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: Klaus Kinski and make like a sweet, nice version of him, 429 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: That's what this guy makes me think of. 430 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that. I can definitely see that, 431 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: all right. The next character is Simone Simonet. He's our 432 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: wall crawling physicist played by Limbeth Peterson born nineteen fifty three, 433 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: Estonian actor and once more, this is probably the actor's 434 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: best known film internationally. 435 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: This guy's got a very nervous kind of high strong 436 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: energy and you really don't know what his deal is 437 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 3: for most of the movie. But I liked him all right. 438 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: And the next character is Hinkus. This is the only 439 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: name that has ever attributed to him, played by Mick Mickever, 440 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: who lived nineteen thirty seven through two thousand and six. 441 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Estonian actor whose credits include some of the expected sort 442 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: of dramas you would imagine, because again there are a 443 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: lot of more traditional dramas, less speculative work that you've 444 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: seen a lot of these actors work during this time period, 445 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: but also another key player in the short lived Estonian 446 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: sci fi wave as well as some Russian science fiction. 447 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: He appears in the Russian nineteen eighty seven film The 448 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: End of Eternity based on the work of Isaac Asimov, 449 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: as well as the bonkers looking Estonian Indiana Jones esque 450 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: sci fi adventure The Curse of Snake Valley from nineteen 451 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: eighty eight. 452 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: He sent me a link to this one. It looked 453 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: I gotta see this. 454 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, this one looked It looks less great. Yeah, in 455 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: some respects like it looks like it's more like bonkers 456 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: and kind of like B cinema in its flavor, but 457 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: also looks just irresistible. So if I, if I, if 458 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: you said, okay, you have to do another Estonian film 459 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: next week, it would it would have to be the 460 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: Curse of the Snake Valley. I'm not sure how widely 461 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: available this one is, though. 462 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got to see it at some point. I 463 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 3: don't know if we'll talk about it, but I've got 464 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 3: to see it. 465 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: Mick of Her is quite great in this and has 466 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: numerous places where he really gets to shine. 467 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, all right. 468 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: Next we have a couple of Moses to consider. There's 469 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: mister Moses and there's miss missus mos uh okay, and 470 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: I I'll start with mister Moses played by Carlos Cebus 471 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen through two thousand and nine, Latvian born actor 472 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: who played Gloucester in that King Lear adaptation that I 473 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: referenced earlier. And then we have Irena Crazati born nineteen 474 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: fifty two as Missus Moses, Lithuanian actress best known for 475 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: this film. But she really gets to run wild with 476 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: a kind of weird performance. 477 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 3: Here, does she ever? Yeah, she was one of my favorites. 478 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: Like her. Her character's fashion sense in general demeanor is 479 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: basically that of a post a zule Dana from Ghostbusters. 480 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: I would yes, and she really loves daredevil cops. 481 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you're a cop. You must be a daredevil. 482 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Next we have Lurevic played by Sue lev Luik, who 483 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: lived nineteen fifty four through nineteen ninety seven, Estonian actor again. 484 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: This was this was his first film, but he worked 485 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: up until his untimely death in nineteen ninety seven. His 486 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: other credits include nineteen ninety three's Tear Up the Prints 487 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: of Darkness, a horror film concerning a cursed ring in 488 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: the days before the outbreak of the Second World War, 489 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: and that one, by the way, is from the director 490 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: of Curse of Snake. 491 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: Valley sounds thematically loaded. Yeah, this actor brings an intriguing 492 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 3: sort of doomed mime energy. 493 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Yes us and I believe by the time we really 494 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: sing a lot from him. 495 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, this. 496 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: Dude's a robot, there's no way this yeah, or an 497 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: alien or both. 498 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: Wait, but he's actually not a robot. He's an alien. 499 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: The other guy's a robot. 500 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I feel like the line between robot and 501 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: alien is kind of gray in this film, especially since 502 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: we never get to see alien faces or like robot interiors, 503 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, this is not that 504 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: kind of film. It could have leaned into that a 505 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: little bit, and I would have totally would have been 506 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: okay with it, but it doesn't need it. 507 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: Agreed, But yeah, you are correct that even though this 508 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 3: guy is said to be an organic alien, he does 509 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: behave like the robots. Speaking of robots, this ski lodge 510 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: also has like hot robots. 511 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: That's right. The first character is this guy, old Off, 512 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: played by tit Harm born nineteen forty six, acclaimed Estonian 513 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: ballet dan turned actor who also went on to be 514 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: a ballet master, ballet manager, ballet choreographer. Like this is. 515 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: This is a guy that's actually pretty big in the 516 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: Estonian ballet scene and I think probably well known internationally 517 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: if you were like into ballet. This is his best 518 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: known film. He did some acting here and there, and 519 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: we do get to see him dance, and he's good. 520 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: You can you can easily knowing that he's a dancer 521 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: and watching him move you're like, yes, this checks out. 522 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: But he does mention in the extras that the set 523 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: was really cramped and so they didn't give him a 524 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: lot of space to work with, so he's having to 525 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: figure out how to move his body in a space 526 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: that is not enabling him to do much. 527 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: His dancing choices, though, are intriguing and a lot of 528 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: fun because he's essentially doing ballet ish kinds of moves 529 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: to the sounds of Estonian prog rock. 530 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting to think about these these limitations. 531 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: You know, all right, you're a famous ballet dancer. We 532 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: want you to dance, but this is the space you 533 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: get to do it in. And I'm also guessing they 534 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: might not have even had the finish music. They'll be like, 535 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: we don't know what you're dancing to yet, but just 536 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: go ahead and do it. Do it in a way 537 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: that's not going to harm your reputation. 538 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: Imagine you're an intergalactic robot dancing to King Crimson. 539 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah he pulls it off though, all right, So that's Oloff, 540 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: and Oloff is kind of running around with this character Brune. 541 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: Brune is played by Lithuanian actress n Joel Oslet born 542 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four. I don't have much to add about 543 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: her career, but she's very good in this. And again, 544 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: this is a film that generally lets a lot of 545 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: its actors play a range of different emotions, you know, 546 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: from just sort of detached modern living to like a 547 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: robot or alien level of detachment, and also getting into 548 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: fear and horrors. 549 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the character of brune High behind sunglasses for most 550 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: of the runtime, but then later reveals her emotions and 551 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: they're quite interesting. 552 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then finally we have this character called Keza 553 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: I believe, and she's she's like the housekeep, the housekeeper, 554 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: and so she's mostly in the background in a lot 555 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: of these scenes. But she's played by Karen Rad who 556 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: lived nineteen forty two through twenty fourteen, an Estonian theater 557 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: director and actor. And then the music, this is this 558 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: is a this was again the music in this film. 559 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: The score is just exceptionally effective. And this is the 560 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: work of Spin Grunberg born nineteen fifty six. 561 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: We've summoned the spirit of Spin a number of times. 562 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: Now we have to explain who he is. 563 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the score here, it is. It's contemplative, it's 564 00:30:54,280 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: suggestively astral in its vibes. It's an electronic score, definitely 565 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: a synth score by Estonian synth masters Vin Grunberg, whose 566 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: career has also taken him into the realms of prog 567 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: rock and also Tibetan Buddhism. Prior to watching this film, 568 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: I listened to his nineteen eighty one album Hingus or Breath, 569 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: which is widely available on music streaming platforms. So this 570 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: is not somebody whose work is like, you know, super 571 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: hard to find. He really made a name for himself 572 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: and it is And yeah, Hingus is quite a wonderful 573 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: collection of ambient electronic tracks, and it's kind of in 574 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: keeping with the music we see here. His work is 575 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: typically abstract and experimental. He's well worth looking up if 576 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: you're into this sort of sort of sound like I am. 577 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of a lot of ambient DNA 578 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: in his work. And and Dead Mountaineer the hotel, his 579 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: music plays again a huge role in establishing the atmosphere 580 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: both inside of this strange hotel and its mini twists 581 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: and mirrors, but also when when we're we're contemplating the exteriors, 582 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: when we're like looking up at the mountains and these 583 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: just like haunting pure blue skies and these like gleaming 584 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: snow banks and so forth. Yeah, the score here is 585 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: just highly effect. 586 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: It's a great example of musical compositions that somehow, without 587 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: even having lyrics, sound like the themes you're trying to 588 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 3: get the audience to think of. So there is a 589 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: sort of recurring synthesizer theme that sounds so it'll be 590 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: it'll happen when you're like panning up over the mountaintops 591 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: and seeing the snow drifts and the glaciers, and it 592 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: will sound like ice in a way, almost like snow 593 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: or like kind of a freezing process, ice crackling. It 594 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: has a kind of high drone. But then also as 595 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: the camera sort of pans to include the sky, it 596 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: morphs to suggest cosmic themes, and it's really as you say, yeah, 597 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: it evokes the themes with the sounds quite well. 598 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. And so it's it's interesting, like you know, went 599 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: into this having a taste for his music, then you know, 600 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: really appreciating the score itself, and then knowing about how 601 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: other aspects of the production we were, you know, so 602 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: planned in advanced and all. It was kind of surprising 603 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: to read then on Deepbaltic dot com this is a 604 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: culture blog centering in on Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, that 605 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: Gruenberg was kind of a last minute replacement in this 606 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: production for esteemed Estonian composer Arvaux part and as a result, 607 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: and since no work had apparently been done on it yet, 608 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: he had a great deal of freedom. So it's like 609 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: everything was already late nothing like, none of the music 610 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: had been turned in. They needed music. He didn't have 611 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: much time, but it also meant that he got to 612 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: really open up and try whatever he wanted. 613 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: I read in one of those articles I was looking at, 614 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: I think it was the one by Carl Funk from 615 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: the Estonian Film Institute, saying something about Soviet censors being 616 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 3: concerned that the movie was trying to trying to get 617 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 3: some like slip some Pink Floyd in there. 618 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I read this on the Deep Baltic article as well. 619 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: The author here writes, quote, the tiny budget only allotted 620 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: him a few precious moments with an EMS synth one 621 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: hundred in Moscow, and even then what he created almost 622 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: got barred by Soviet censors who are convinced that Ball 623 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: was a lesser known track by Pink Floyd Ball, I guess, 624 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: being one of the titles or one of the tracks 625 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: on the score. 626 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: I wonder if that's the sort of proggy sounding track 627 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 3: that tit harm and everyone are dancing to. 628 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: I guess so. Yeah, I kept looking around to try 629 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: and find it. I would love to see the score 630 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: and or soundtrack, you know, featured as a release. I 631 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: don't think it's released anywhere. I couldn't find any evidence 632 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: of it, so I also couldn't find a listing of 633 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: what tracks were actually called. But yeah, this, this might 634 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: be that prog rock dance number that everybody's grooving out to. 635 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: And it is a great number, all right. One on 636 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: that note, let's start get into the plot here. 637 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: All right. So the opening shot is ridges and peaks 638 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 3: of the high Alps covered in snow, and there is 639 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 3: eerie music. This synthesizer music that we were talking about 640 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 3: already sounds kind of like drops and wheezes panning from 641 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: one side to the other. And we see the lonely 642 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 3: mountaintops and very cold feeling sunlight, and we zoom in 643 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 3: on a snow covered road winding through the rocks, and 644 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 3: a car comes around the corner, and here begins the voiceover. 645 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 3: This is a man's voice. It's gruff, weary. This is 646 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 3: the voice of Glebsky, the detective, and he tells us 647 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: I was on a call driving to a mountain lodge 648 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: called the Dead Mountaineers Hotel. It was quite a difficult drive. 649 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 3: Many years have passed now, but on dull shifts or 650 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: during sleepless nights, I often recall what happened, and even 651 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: now I cannot decide whether I was right or not. 652 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 3: And as he narrates, we see him driving through the 653 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 3: mountains and here. One thing that I really like is 654 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 3: that there are some shots that include the sun facing 655 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: directly into the camera. And this is obviously this is 656 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: not something you would normally do, you know, when you're 657 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: shooting outside, as aim the camera right at the sun, 658 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: But it works here and it happens throughout the movie. 659 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: These shots with the camera just like blasting the or sorry, 660 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: with the sun just blasting the camera lens. They capture 661 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 3: the way the sun sometimes feels when you're on a 662 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: snowy mountaintop, where the sunlight seems colder and weirder, and 663 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 3: it lacks that quality of gentle warmth that you might 664 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: get on like a nice sunny day at sea level. Instead, 665 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 3: it feels like just a bombardment, a blasting source of pale, 666 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 3: hostile radiation. 667 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it really makes this whole landscape feel alien 668 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: and other worldly. Quite fittingly. 669 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 3: So, there's also another shot Rob I don't know if 670 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 3: you noticed at the beginning here, but I liked it 671 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 3: a lot. There's like a framing of a gap in 672 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 3: a giant rock face that suggests gates or a gateway. 673 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: And when we see this mountain gate, the soundtrack suddenly 674 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 3: explodes with heavy synth and an emerging beat, and the 675 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 3: narration goes on to say, what's strange is I can 676 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: tell no one how it actually happened, not my wife, 677 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 3: my friends, or the authorities. Only I know the whole truth. 678 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: So we start with this idea already that Glebsky is 679 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: isolated in his knowledge of what we're about to see unfold. 680 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, luckily he's going to tell us what's happening. 681 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 3: So as Glebsky approaches the hotel in his car, the 682 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: narration died away, and instead we just get the ambient 683 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 3: sounds of the car ride, the sedan bumping and jostling 684 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 3: over uneven mountain road, and there's a tiny voice chattering 685 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: on the radio. It sounds like it's speaking French, so 686 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 3: made me wonder if this is supposed to if it's 687 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: suggesting this is taking place in France, or I guess 688 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 3: also in Switzerland, where parts of Switzerland they speak French. Anyway, 689 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 3: Globski arrives, he walks the snow covered path to the entrance. 690 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 3: He's dressed in a brown leather trench coat, and I 691 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: have to say, I think he looks very cool. 692 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Like I said, this guy's perfect, and he's 693 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: the costuming's great. He is our weary detective who just 694 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 1: had a grueling drive up into the mountains on indeed 695 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: some very snow covered and terrifying looking roads. Now he 696 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: has to look into some sort of perhaps a murder. 697 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: I just love somebody get this manager. 698 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: I just look at this guy and I think, you 699 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 3: know what, he's gonna end up taking it too personal. 700 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: I think, oh, yeah, yeah, you know. Oh. 701 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: And during this moment, interesting thing like we look up 702 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 3: in the sky we see hang gliders. We see them 703 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: swooping around, sometimes apparently upside down, though it's possible that 704 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 3: I guess the film is just upside down. And it 705 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 3: suggests like, are these hang gliders watching him approach the hotel? 706 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think they are. I think that the footage 707 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: is inverted here to make it feel all the more haunting. Also, 708 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: this is we'll find out later that this is old 709 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 1: Off and Brun up there in the sky tearing around. 710 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: I have questions about how they got up there, but 711 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. I take it for granted that they 712 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: knew how to do it, but yeah, it's an excellent 713 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: weird sequence very early in the film here, especially as 714 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: it is combined with the music to create this kind 715 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: of horror of the empty blue sky feel that I 716 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: know I've personally long connected with since I was a child, 717 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 1: you know, there being something about like a perfect blue 718 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: sky that feels kind of overwhelming in a little uncanny, 719 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: So a very creepy moment at least for me. 720 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 3: Totally. Yes, So Glebsky goes inside. The lobby of the 721 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 3: hotel is empty, it's cavernous. His footsteps echo. This doesn't 722 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: feel like what you'd think of when you think a 723 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 3: mountain ski lodge, which you know you think cozy, roaring fire. 724 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 3: I don't know that kind of stuff. No, this place 725 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 3: feels cavernous and dank, and it's just a vibe. Like 726 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 3: Rabbi attached a screenshot from the lobby that we can 727 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 3: talk about here. There are sickly green tones over the 728 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 3: white marble tile. There is black darkness in the recesses 729 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 3: of the room. In the middle of the lobby, there 730 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 3: is a prominent portrait. It's a man with shaggy hair 731 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 3: wearing sunglasses with what looks like a neon orange tube 732 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 3: light tracing the outline of the top of his head, 733 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 3: suggesting a sort of tech noir halo. And the inspector 734 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 3: stops to examine the portrait and again, something about this 735 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 3: place feels not quite like a hotel. It feels like 736 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 3: some other kind of place. 737 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really feels like this could be a corporate 738 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 1: headquarters from an early Cronenberg film. 739 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but something you pointed this out in the in 740 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 3: the notes, Rob, there's something about the portrait of the 741 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 3: mountaineer here, because we will find out that the face 742 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 3: we see in this portrait is the titular dead mountaineer 743 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 3: of the Dead Mountaineer's hotels. It suggests not just like 744 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 3: a portrait, but something almost kind of like religious or 745 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 3: there's like, yeah, it's like a shrine or something. 746 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally so. 747 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 3: Glebsky's wandering around in this weird lobby and suddenly somebody 748 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 3: starts to speak from the shadows behind him. It's a 749 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: man's voice, and he says, speaking of the portrait, that's 750 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: the mountaineer. He was caught in an avalanche. He was 751 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 3: carried five hundred meters to his death. And there's a 752 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 3: reverse shot and see the man speaking, and again this 753 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 3: is just like what is going on? I guess this 754 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 3: is the front desk of the hotel, but it could 755 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 3: not be less hospitable. There's an old man in sort 756 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 3: of a black turtleneck standing in the shadows in front 757 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 3: of a window shutter. He looks like count Orlock. And 758 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 3: there's a cherry red lamp in the foreground. Something about 759 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 3: it gives it suggests blood. And then also there is 760 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 3: a Saint Bernard panting on the in the right of 761 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 3: the frame. Just a dog sitting there like what's a 762 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: leak and drool. 763 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Enormous, enormous dog, which turns out to be a real sweetheart. 764 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: But you know, initially it's just like that. 765 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 3: Dog's here, yes, And this man who looks like maybe 766 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 3: he just drank someone's blood. He introduces himself as Alex Snavar, 767 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 3: owner of the hotel as well as the valley and 768 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 3: the surrounding mountains. That's what he says. And I was like, wait, 769 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 3: you can own a mountain. I guess he can, but 770 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: you know he actually the same thing happens with Alex 771 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 3: Snavar that happens with the dog, because Snavar looks kind 772 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: of threatening at first, but he will turn out to 773 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 3: be a sweetheart. Yeah, we learned that the Saint Bernard 774 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: is named Lel, and he goes to sit underneath the 775 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: portrait of the mountaineer. Snavar explains that the dog was 776 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 3: the mountaineer's faithful companion before the accident, So the accident 777 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: can have happened all that long ago, and Lel now 778 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 3: likes to sit and gaze at the image of his 779 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 3: old friend. So Glebsky, of course, he wants to know 780 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 3: why he was summoned to the hotel. Somebody called the 781 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: police and here he is, but Snavar has no answers. 782 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 3: He claims he never called them. It must have been 783 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 3: a guest. So Glebsky he rings up his captain and 784 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 3: tells him, you know, it's too late to return through 785 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 3: the mountain fog. He's gonna have to stay the night 786 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 3: at this resort hotel, and he's gonna have to try 787 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 3: some of the hotel's famous Adelweiss vine. 788 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like we were saying earlier, he's kind of 789 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: going into vacation mode. It's like, all right, false alarm, 790 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: but I've at least got the night. 791 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 3: No taking it to person. And for me tonight I'm 792 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,959 Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna relax. Oh and I like how well 793 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 3: the Saint Bernard is the bell hop here at the 794 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 3: hotel like snae Bar tells the dog Glebsky's room number, 795 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 3: and the dog picks up his bag and his big 796 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 3: slobbery mouth and takes it to the room. 797 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: Yep. 798 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 3: So we see the inspector settling in outside his window, 799 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 3: he sees a shadow in the snow. It looks like 800 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 3: the silhouette of someone on the roof of the hotel 801 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 3: drinking and throwing bottles over the edge. So here we 802 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 3: start to get glimpses of the other guests. Those two 803 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 3: people hang gliding from earlier. They come in after they 804 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 3: finish their hang gliding, and we learned that these are 805 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 3: Olof and brune. Olof Is is the man played by 806 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 3: played by the dancer tit Harm and brune Is is 807 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 3: the woman. Uh. And then also up on the roof 808 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 3: there is a man in a fur coat admiring the mountains. 809 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 3: He's in like a sort of lawn chair, and we 810 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: meet him and learn that his name is Hincus. And 811 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 3: I wanted to add a note about this. You know, 812 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,959 Speaker 3: there's that Spinn Greenberg album called Hingus, which, as you said, 813 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 3: is Estonian for breath. So I'm wondering if this is 814 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 3: actually different or if it's basically suggesting that this character's 815 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 3: name is breath. 816 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, it's a you can't help 817 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: him make that connection. 818 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 3: And it would be thematically appropriate because Hinkus tells Glebski 819 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 3: that he is here at the hotel because he has 820 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 3: tuberculosis and the doctors have told him that he must 821 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 3: breathe fresh mountain air in order to recover. Now Here 822 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 3: comes a funny moment next, because Glebsky hears the dinner 823 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 3: bell and so on the way down to dinner with 824 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 3: all the other guests, he encounters a man wedging himself 825 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 3: between the walls up near the ceiling and the staircase, 826 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 3: and the guy hops down and introduces himself. He says, 827 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 3: I'm Simone Simine, commander of the cyber Forces. But then 828 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: he says he's a he's a physicist, actually, and this 829 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 3: is his first vacation in four years. He says, Project 830 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 3: Midas heard of it top secret, then why would you 831 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 3: have heard of it? But Simone Cimine says that he 832 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 3: came here to climb the mountain, but there's too much snow, 833 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 3: so he can't climb the mountain, so he climbs the 834 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 3: walls instead. He says that the doctors prescribed him sensory pleasures. 835 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 3: Now at the dinner table, here Snavevar introduces Glebsky to 836 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 3: the other guests. There is a young lady in an 837 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 3: orange top wearing huge, weird sunglasses. This is the woman Brune. 838 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 3: Next to her is this handsome young man in a 839 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 3: blue shirt and an orange ascot with a shaggy mulletish haircut. 840 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 3: This is Olof again, Brun and Oloff for the hang gliders, 841 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 3: and they seem to be an item. They're kind of 842 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 3: just smooching and cuddling. At the dinner table, we also 843 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 3: meet missus Moses, a woman in a lavender outfit with 844 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: a first hole, curly hair and sort of frightening makeup. 845 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah again, roughly post zul Dana and Ghostbusters. That's her fashion. 846 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 3: That's exactly right right on the nose. And so Glebski 847 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 3: comes in and she's like, she says, I love Policeman, heroes, 848 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 3: Daredevil's are you a daredevil inspector and he's like, nope, 849 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 3: just just regular and she says, no, no, no, no, 850 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 3: any man who looks like you must be a daredevil. 851 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 3: And the next here comes mister Moses. He's sort of 852 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 3: a boring seeming older man with gray hair and a 853 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 3: gray card. Again, he he almost kind of blends into 854 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 3: the background. It's like you're you're not really supposed to 855 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 3: notice him. Yeah, And then there's also the housekeeper at 856 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 3: the hotel here, this is Kaisa. So everybody settles in 857 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 3: and the hotel manager is like, anyway, as I was 858 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 3: saying before you arrived, I am in total agreement with 859 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 3: mister Eric von Danakin. Aliens have repeatedly visited Earth, and 860 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 3: I was I could not believe what we were in 861 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 3: for here was I did not know we would get 862 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 3: an Eric von danik and reference in the movie. This 863 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 3: is in the real world. The author of the book 864 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 3: Chariots of the. 865 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: Gods, Yeah, with the with the question Mark, which. 866 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 3: Is a famous book alleging on the basis of incredibly 867 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 3: poor evidence and reasoning that aliens have repeatedly visited Earth 868 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 3: in the in the past and are responsible for I 869 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 3: don't remember exactly what he connects it to probably the 870 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,320 Speaker 3: various ancient stories and monuments and stuff. 871 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole alien astronaut hypothesis situation, which which we 872 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: recorded a few episodes of stuff to blow your mind 873 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: about a few years. 874 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 3: Back, analyzing from a from a skeptical perspective, and then 875 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 3: we ended up talking about like Carl Sagan's point of 876 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 3: view on like if aliens had visited Earth, what kind 877 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 3: of evidence you would actually expect to see and stuff 878 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, so yeah, so Snaevar, He's like, I 879 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 3: love Eric Vondanakin. Aliens have been here, I know it, 880 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 3: and Simone and the physicist is like, Fondanakin is a Charlott, 881 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 3: no way, and Stevar rebukes him, basically saying that his 882 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 3: opinion doesn't count because he is a scientist and thus biased, 883 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 3: and he says that the question of aliens is one 884 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 3: of poetry. 885 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 1: I kind of like that. I feel like we would 886 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: be better off if all alien conspiracy theorists were so 887 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: honest and self reflective where they were like, you know, 888 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: this isn't a fact based thing. This is about This 889 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: is about feelings, This is about art. Yeah, Like, I know, 890 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: this doesn't actually connect with reality. This is about like 891 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: a mythic understanding of the world. 892 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 3: Or something, right, Yeah, this is I'm talking about this 893 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,840 Speaker 3: for fun, because it's you know, it's interesting and exciting 894 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 3: to my emotions, not because you know, I'm insisting that 895 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 3: the evidence is it must be real. 896 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but already we get a little flavor here of Yeah, 897 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 1: there's like, on one hand, the logical, on the other hand, 898 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: something that seems illogical, but also might conform to a 899 00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: different reality or different expectations of reality. 900 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 3: They ask the police inspector's opinion, and Glebsky identifies himself 901 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 3: as a rationalist, and I guess that means he agrees 902 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 3: with simone he doubts Eric Vandanakin. So later some time 903 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 3: passes and there are a few different scenes of the 904 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 3: guests hanging out together. One is some kind of billiard's game. 905 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 3: I assume this is not, unfortunately snooker. The billiards game 906 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 3: featured in what was it called Billy the Kid in 907 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 3: the Green Bays Vampire, a previoushouse pick. I don't could 908 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 3: you recognize what game they're playing round? 909 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 1: I don't have a good good eye for these related games. Yeah, 910 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: it looked like they were playing with all white balls 911 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 1: at one point. I don't know if that means anything. 912 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 3: I don't know what all white balls means. 913 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, pool enthusiast and write analysts. 914 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 3: But they have this conversation about whether or not the 915 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 3: inspector is going to turn Oloff into food. But then 916 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 3: interesting thing is that like Oloff is so good at 917 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 3: the game that it's like not any fun because he 918 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 3: just like Snink, he sinks every shot with absolute precision. 919 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 3: So Olof is like the ultimate Billiard's hustler here. 920 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he's like I'm out. 921 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it'd be great to see him go up 922 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 3: against the Green Bays Vampire Alan Armstrong. 923 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been a logical sequel, right, Green 924 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: Bays Vampire versus a robot versus tit. 925 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 3: Harm Yeah yeah, Okay. So later that night we get 926 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 3: the scene where this is the dancing scene we've referred 927 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,280 Speaker 3: to a few times where everybody's like dancing to heavy 928 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,720 Speaker 3: prog rock. Oloff and Brun are dancing with these jerky 929 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 3: whipping movements with their arms going out. Mister Moses is 930 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 3: playing chess with somebody I wasn't sure who, and then 931 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 3: Glebsky talking to Snavar, is he has questions. He's like, 932 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 3: who is this mister Moses, and Snavar says, he's registered 933 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 3: as a traveling businessman, but I have no idea where 934 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 3: he's traveling. The road ends here. The only way is back. 935 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 1: It's a good points, great little party. We gotta say, like, 936 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: I kind of want to go to this party. Oh yeah, 937 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: because there's some cool dance and great music. And if 938 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to dance, well, you know, have yourself 939 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: a drink and play some chess. We've got activities for everyone. 940 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 3: Extroverts and introverts are welcome. Yeah. Yeah, So Glebsky dances 941 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 3: with missus Moses here again. She's she seems very into him. 942 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 3: She's got like a big white feather in her hat 943 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 3: or on her head. He seems kind of hypnotized. I 944 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 3: wasn't sure what this was supposed to mean. Did you 945 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,839 Speaker 3: get the same impression that Glebsky's like sort of out 946 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 3: of his mind here? 947 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I assumed he was drunk. That was 948 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: where I was at it. 949 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 3: That would make sense because. 950 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: He did say he wanted to have that wine, and 951 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: he at this point he's just like I'm off the clock. 952 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: You know, there's no there's no crime to investigate here, 953 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: I might as well have a good Yeah. 954 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 3: And so basically everybody at the hotel's partying except for 955 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 3: Hankas they say, he's still up on the roof. He 956 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 3: just doesn't come down to party. He's on the roof 957 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 3: all the time. And there was somewhere in here there's 958 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 3: a shot I really like this creepy shot of a 959 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 3: big evergreen tree back lit by the moon. 960 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 961 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 3: So Glebsky was dancing with miss and Moses, but then 962 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 3: Simone comes in for his dance. He's like, hey, you 963 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 3: want to dance with a with a cyber commander of 964 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 3: cyber forces, And so she dances with Simon a and Globsky, 965 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,720 Speaker 3: admitting in the narration that he was drunk, he steps 966 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,479 Speaker 3: away from the party. He goes outside for some night air, 967 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 3: and then he discovers that someone he doesn't know who 968 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 3: has slipped an anonymous note into his pocket. He opens 969 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 3: the note to read it on this snowy pathway lit 970 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 3: by these globe shaped lamps, and the note is cut 971 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 3: and pasted with letters from a magazine like those ransom 972 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 3: notes in the movies, and it reads, Hincus is part 973 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,760 Speaker 3: of a criminal organization. He is a dangerous terrorist called 974 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 3: owl owl o w L. 975 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: That's fitting creepy nightbird with you know, various supernatural connotations 976 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: in different cultures. 977 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, this this struck is funny. When I was watching, 978 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 3: just because my daughter is currently obsessed with owls. She 979 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 3: loves to tell us what an owl says. It says 980 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 3: who who? 981 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: Oh, that's correct. 982 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 3: But anyway, the note goes on to say a murder 983 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 3: is planned. Do something. So Glebski is troubled by this, 984 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 3: and he looks up on the roof to see the 985 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 3: outline of Hinkas still in the chair up there, and 986 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 3: he calls out to him. He yells hink OUs hing oos. 987 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 3: But unfortunately this shout seems to trigger something. There is 988 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,240 Speaker 3: some kind of rumbling in the snow covered peaks above. 989 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 3: This was an unfortunate Hincus and the ominous like, there's 990 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 3: this ominous droning sound, Matt, this pad underneath everything that 991 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 3: begins here, and Hinkus from the roof does not respond. 992 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 3: So Glebski runs up there, and when he arrives, he 993 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 3: finds that the silhouette in the chair that he believed 994 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 3: to be Hinkas is actually just Hinkus's coat stuffed with 995 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 3: balls of snow. It was like a decoy snowman. So 996 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 3: where is Hincus. Well, the rumbling which started after Glebsky's 997 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 3: shout begins to reach a sort of peak of intensity, 998 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 3: and then the hotel guests see out the windows an 999 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 3: avalanche coming down the mountain side. 1000 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 1: Oh man, So first he's Ferris buellerd by Hinkas here, 1001 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: and then we get the avalanche. And I have to 1002 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 1: point out they apparently induced avalanches for the sequences we 1003 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,800 Speaker 1: see in the film. They weren't relying on stock footage 1004 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: or anything. No, I don't know the full details. They 1005 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: may have aligned that with like planned induced avalanches that 1006 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,280 Speaker 1: were done for safety reasons. 1007 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, it looked totally real. I was like, 1008 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 3: these aren't special effects. 1009 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are terrifying because at least later in the 1010 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: picture I can't remember this sequence so much. But later 1011 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: in the picture we get one where it's you know, 1012 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: it's coming right at the camera and like, that's a 1013 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: lot of snow, that's a lot of mass coming out. 1014 00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 3: You totally agree, Yeah, very effective shots. So when the 1015 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 3: avalanche happens, the power goes out at first, and we 1016 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 3: will discover that the avalanche has blocked the road and 1017 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 3: trapped them on the hotel grounds. It has also knocked 1018 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 3: out the telephone lines, and according to Snavar in a 1019 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 3: later scene, it will probably be days before the authorities 1020 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 3: can clear the road and they can leave. So Glebsky's 1021 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 3: sort of on the case. He's trying to figure out 1022 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 3: what's going on. He investigates Hnkas's room and finds it empty. 1023 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 3: He searches through Hankas's belongings and finds a small pistol 1024 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 3: in his suitcase, and then Glebsky narrates though that this 1025 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,479 Speaker 3: is not the weapon of a career criminal. He thinks 1026 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 3: somebody must be trying to set Hankas up, but who 1027 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 3: next thing, Snavar and Kaisa brings someone in from outside 1028 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 3: the hotel, someone who appears to be unconscious, and Glebsky 1029 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 3: goes to help and they're like, who is this. We 1030 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 3: don't know what's wrong, possibly hypothermia, And they're like, get brandy, 1031 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:55,720 Speaker 3: gotta have liquor. 1032 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of those movies where hard spirits 1033 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 1: are essentially potions of healing, you know what. They're two called, 1034 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: get him some liquor. Oh, the injured liquor, the delirium, unconscious, 1035 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: and whatever it is. Surely hard spirits can can solve 1036 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: the problem. 1037 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know why Hinkus is not just 1038 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 3: taking cotton candy flavored vodka for his for his tuberculosis, 1039 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 3: you know. Anyway, so Snaevar guesses maybe this is a 1040 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 3: friend of Hincus because he heard Hinkus dictating a telegram 1041 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 3: earlier telling someone to come quickly to join him at 1042 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 3: the hotel. Sohnkus has summoned someone earlier in the day, 1043 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 3: and we don't know who, but maybe this is who 1044 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 3: he called. Anyway, they give the guy some brandy and 1045 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 3: get him to say a couple of words. But all 1046 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 3: he can say is the name of Oloff. 1047 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: Oh. 1048 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 3: Remember, Olof's already a guest here at the hotel. This 1049 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 3: is this is the dancer guy. So they go to 1050 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 3: check out Oloff's room. But when they get there, uh oh, 1051 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 3: they find him lying out on the floor, pale, motionless. Dead. 1052 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: Oloff is dead, all right, So now we really have 1053 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: a murder story going on here. It's time for our 1054 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: inspector to get back on the clock. He's got some work. 1055 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. In fact, Oloff is not just dead, like his 1056 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 3: head is twisted around unnaturally. It's kind of the Exorcist 1057 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 3: going on here. So of course Glebsky concludes what strength 1058 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 3: the killer must have had, and we see him like 1059 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 3: lie down on the floor and try to mimic like 1060 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 3: twisting his head around. But they also see that Olof's 1061 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 3: hand was stretching out toward the handle of a suitcase, 1062 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 3: so it's like he was reaching for the suitcase when 1063 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 3: he died. In another room, they find Hinkus finally, but 1064 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 3: he is found tied to a bed. He says he 1065 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 3: was attacked by someone and he does not know who, 1066 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 3: and then the weird behavior just continues. We encounter Simone. 1067 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 3: Simone Simone, a physicist. He's running around in his tidy whiteies, 1068 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 3: trying to hide behind a sheet that he's like holding 1069 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 3: up with his hands. That's not gonna work, buddy, And 1070 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 3: we get a confession from him. Missus Moses is dead. 1071 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 3: He swears he didn't kill her. He says that he 1072 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 3: went into her room and she was already lying cold 1073 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 3: on the floor when he went in there. The wait, no, 1074 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 3: not lying cold on the floor, she was standing upright, 1075 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 3: but cold and dead. And then her wig fell off, 1076 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 3: revealing a bald head. Things are getting stranger. 1077 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're getting a kind of a Blue Sunshine 1078 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: vibe going on in this one. 1079 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, maybe she took the Blue Sunshine acid 1080 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 3: and now she's ready to activate. But then they go 1081 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 3: to missus Moses's room to check this out, and she's 1082 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 3: not dead. She's in there, alive, reading a book. She's fine. 1083 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 3: She smiles at them. So something really weird is a 1084 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 3: foot now, and Glebsky is starting to get frustrated because 1085 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 3: I think when it was just a murder, he was 1086 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 3: sort of like, he was like, Okay, I'm on the case, 1087 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 3: But now everything's so weird. He's like, I don't know 1088 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 3: what's going on, and I don't like it. So back 1089 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 3: in Semone's rooms, Semine showers, he tries to sober up, 1090 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 3: and Glebsky shows him a strange contraption that he found 1091 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 3: with Olaf. It's this weird device inside the suitcase that 1092 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 3: Oloff had been reaching for. It has this soft pulsing 1093 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 3: light and it emits low beeping sounds, and Simone says 1094 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 3: he doesn't know what it is, but it could be 1095 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 3: something military or from outer space. Better be careful. Then 1096 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 3: he runs away in fear, so they I think they 1097 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,240 Speaker 3: like lock up this contraption in a cabinet under the 1098 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 3: dog bed, and Glebsky has the only key, so he's 1099 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 3: the only person who can get to this suitcase. Now 1100 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 3: he goes and tries to talk to Brune, and the 1101 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 3: mystery just keeps developing. He tries to talk to Brune 1102 01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,919 Speaker 3: about what happened. She apparently Sawhnkas walking in the hall 1103 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 3: after he claimed to have been attacked. And then we 1104 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 3: go and check with Hinkus about this, what was going on? 1105 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 3: You know, were you lying? And he says that it 1106 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 3: was him that he tied himself up. The implication here 1107 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 3: is that there is another one of him. 1108 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: And this is a great scene. It's especially a great 1109 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: place for the actor Mick mcavver playing Hinkus to really 1110 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 1: shine because it's he's not just saying oh yeah, yeah, 1111 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: I encountered me and I tied him up, like no, 1112 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: this the character is clearly confronting this moment of horror, 1113 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: this moment of duplication where he encountered like his own double, 1114 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: his own doppelganger here and had this kind of violent 1115 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: interaction with them and is clearly just traumatized and confused 1116 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 1: by the whole incident. 1117 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 3: Yes, agree that Micaver is great in the scene, and 1118 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 3: Glebsky is totally disturbed at this point. He wanders through 1119 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 3: the hotel by himself thinking over the case. Like here, 1120 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 3: there's a visual motif of flickering lights, Like often somewhere 1121 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 3: in the background a light will flutter on and then 1122 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 3: flutter off on a loop throughout a scene. Yeah, there's 1123 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 3: also a moment in here where somebody is watching TV, 1124 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 3: or at least there's a TV on somewhere, like in 1125 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 3: the lobby of the hotel, and it looks like what 1126 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 3: it's showing is like news clips of people falling out 1127 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 3: of buildings. 1128 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was very disturbing. So this is like in 1129 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: a I think this kind of like circular room with 1130 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 1: one of these neat like central circular stoves warming everything up, 1131 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: and there's a TV. And Yeah, it was disturbing because 1132 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: on one hand, I kind of have to assume this 1133 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 1: is real footage of people falling to their deaths here, 1134 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: So it's outside of the context of the film, it's 1135 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 1: disturbing to see that kind of thing. But even within 1136 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,439 Speaker 1: the context of the film, why is it playing here 1137 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: in the lobby of the hotel. Did they just play 1138 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 1: Faces of Death on repeat here? 1139 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1140 01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Do they tune into the outlaw videodrome snuff channels in 1141 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Cronenberg's video drama film gets It's just weird and strange 1142 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: and just adds to that level of uncertainty about where 1143 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 1: we're going in this film. Yeah. 1144 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So there were more interrogation scenes where Glebsky's trying 1145 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 3: to figure out what's happening. He interrogates Brune about what 1146 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 3: happened earlier when she went to Oloff's room. She said 1147 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 3: that they were they're dancing, kissing, having a wild time, 1148 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 3: and then suddenly they see the avalanche beginning outside the 1149 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 3: window of the room, and Oloff panics and throws Brune 1150 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 3: out of the room into the hall, and then later 1151 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 3: he's found dead. Glebsky and Alex sort of talk over 1152 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,840 Speaker 3: the mystery together. Snaevar's sort of Glebsky's confidant. He's playing 1153 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 3: his doctor Watson, and Alex says that Glebsky's rational investigatory 1154 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 3: tools are useless here. He says, like time at greater 1155 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 3: than light speed, that's a strange comparison, but then he says, 1156 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,919 Speaker 3: there is nothing we can do. You are not ripe yet, 1157 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 3: And this is the moment when Glebsky says, I'm so 1158 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 3: ripe I will fall off the trees soon. 1159 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I love this exchange. It's I assume something is lost 1160 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: in translation here, like it doesn't fully translate into English 1161 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: from the original Estonian, but I still sort of get it, 1162 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: like it's still it still feels very true. 1163 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 1164 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: So. 1165 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 3: In the scene also they talk about the concept of zombies, 1166 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 3: and Snavar wonders if perhaps zombie is the third state 1167 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,439 Speaker 3: of living organisms, beyond life and death. 1168 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, very high. 1169 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 3: So Glebsky falls asleep listening to Snavar talk about zombies, 1170 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 3: and then he has dreams of skiing down a vast 1171 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 3: snow covered mountain side and he's going so fast. He 1172 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 3: seems to be smiling at first, but then maybe it 1173 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 3: seems his expression is actually one of fear. There are 1174 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 3: weird tones on the soundtrack that sound like animals wheezing. 1175 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 3: And then suddenly in the dream, Glebsky goes off the 1176 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 3: edge of a cliff and he falls and falls into 1177 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 3: the snow down below, and then from up above a 1178 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 3: figure looks down at his body. We zoom on the 1179 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 3: figure and there are two figures. In fact, it is 1180 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 3: the dead mountaineer from the portrait and his dog Lell. 1181 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really great moment, you know, haunting and also makes 1182 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,120 Speaker 1: us think back to that kind of the shrine like 1183 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: qualities of the dead mountaineer's portrait. You know, is the 1184 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 1: dead mountaineer like a even in the context of dream here? 1185 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Is it like a ghost? Is it a divine force? 1186 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 1: And I also have to point out this may be 1187 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 1: the only sequence in the film where anybody does any skiing. Yeah, 1188 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: and it is within a dream. 1189 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 3: No, there is some skiing later, but it happens without 1190 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 3: skis and in the wrong direction. 1191 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and by by robots. 1192 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 3: Yes. 1193 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 1: I guess. Well, we did see the hang gliding earlier, 1194 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: and I guess maybe that involves skiing. I don't know 1195 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: how they got up there. Maybe they skied off of something. 1196 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. We'll come back to that in a minute. So, 1197 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 3: So Glebski is woken up by the saint Bernard Lell 1198 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 3: like slobbering on his face, and the dog has brought 1199 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 3: him something. It is a gun covered in drool. So 1200 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 3: Glebsky's like, where did it come from? Boy? And lel 1201 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 3: leads him outside into the snow and shows him where 1202 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 3: the gun was. Glebsky deduces that it must have been 1203 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 3: thrown from the roof, so did it belong to Hinkus? Next, 1204 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 3: Snaevar brings news, I remember that unconscious guy we found outside. 1205 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,520 Speaker 3: He's conscious now, so they go to interrogate him. And 1206 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 3: now that he's awake, he really looks like death. There's 1207 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 3: this dark makeup under his eyes. His skin is pale, 1208 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 3: even kind of blue in places. The whites of his 1209 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 3: eyes are bloodshot, and he just stares ahead in a daze. 1210 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 3: And Glebsky interrogates him, finds out that his name is Lurevic, 1211 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 3: mister Lurevic, Luarvic. He is looking for Oloff, and he 1212 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 3: won't say a whole lot. Glebsky's like, who are you? 1213 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 3: Are you a foreigner? And the man says, yes, a foreigner. 1214 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 3: And also in this scene, mister moses remember him. He 1215 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 3: was kind of like nondescript earlier on. He tries to 1216 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 3: sneak in on the interrogation, but Glebsky chases him away 1217 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 3: and Lurevic, on finding out that Oloff is dead doesn't 1218 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 3: seem all that concerned. He says, well, he still needs 1219 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 3: to see Oloff anyway, to conduct some business with him. 1220 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 3: And Glebsky's like, no, he's dead, and Lurevic is like, yeah, 1221 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,959 Speaker 3: let me talk to him. But in this whole scene, 1222 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 3: Luorovic is dreamy, languid, kind of unconcerned, but does look 1223 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 3: like he's in a bad state, and he does identify 1224 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 3: Oloff's body. He says, he recognizes he recognizes him, and 1225 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 3: he knew him from elsewhere. And this was one scene. 1226 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,080 Speaker 3: Yet again, this is all throughout the movie. But I 1227 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 3: really noticed the presence of like the modular mirrors in 1228 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 3: the sets in the scene. 1229 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's fitting, especially at this point in the picture, 1230 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 1: because we have already come head to head with this 1231 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 1: with a theme of duplication here, of doppel gangers and doubles, 1232 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I feel like we're constantly seeing characters 1233 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: in mirrors or multiple mirrors, and the hotel eventually feels 1234 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 1: like a place that's not only in the edge of 1235 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 1: the wilderness, but also in the edge of the known universe. 1236 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So Lurevic says he's looking for the suitcase 1237 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 3: that olof had and Glebsky says, I'm not just going 1238 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 3: to give it to you. You got to answer questions first. 1239 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 3: But of course Luvic he doesn't want to answer questions. 1240 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 3: He just wants the suitcase instead of answering questions. He 1241 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 3: gets very slow and says that he must lie down, 1242 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 3: and then he just sort of slumps back and appears 1243 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,880 Speaker 3: to go to sleep with his eyes open. Somewhere in 1244 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,600 Speaker 3: here there's a scene with Snavar playing the organ and 1245 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 3: he's not good at it, and Glebsky's just kind of 1246 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 3: lounging stoically, smoking a cigarette and listening to the bad 1247 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 3: organ concert. And so, you know, they again have one 1248 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 3: of their detective consultation sessions. They talk to each other 1249 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 3: about what could be going on, and Glebsky says, you know, 1250 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 3: he's nearly convinced that Lurevic Oloff and mister Moses, or 1251 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 3: either mister or missus Moses, maybe both of them. He 1252 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 3: doesn't say who. He says they belong to the same gang, 1253 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:05,879 Speaker 3: which doesn't want publicity, and he thinks Hnkas is somehow 1254 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,839 Speaker 3: connected to them as well because of the gun he found. 1255 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 3: So Glebsky comes up with a plan. He says he's 1256 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 3: gonna stop detaining Hnkas and set him free, quote like 1257 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 3: a fox into a chicken coop to see what happens. Meanwhile, 1258 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 3: Glebsky is busy playing with a metal wind up robot toy. 1259 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 3: I don't know about this plan, Glebski. Is that a 1260 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 3: good police police work plan? 1261 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, seems like this is more like rogue cop territory. Yeah. 1262 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, So everybody comes down for breakfast the next morning. 1263 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 3: I guess when he's gonna set Hankus loose. And Simon 1264 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 3: A says, I sense the smell of death in here, 1265 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 3: and Bruin says, beautiful weather today. Poor Olof didn't live 1266 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 3: to see it. And Lurevic is now at breakfast with 1267 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 3: the rest of him. He has to be guided to 1268 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,639 Speaker 3: his breakfast chair and he eats some piece of fruit, 1269 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 3: like letting this juice run all over his face. I 1270 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 3: think Hinkas arrives to breakfast wearing a tuxedo. That's kind 1271 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 3: of that's a choice. But Glebsky says, you know, quote, 1272 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 3: it appears some crooks selected this hotel as a place 1273 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 3: to settle their scores. With the help of mister Snavar, 1274 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,559 Speaker 3: I sent word to the police by pigeon. The police 1275 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 3: helicopter will arrive shortly, the criminals will get their just desserts. 1276 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 3: I advise that criminal activity be ceased. Of course, what 1277 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 3: is Missus Moses's reaction to this going to be? Of course, 1278 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 3: she's like, oh boy, how exciting killers among us? I 1279 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 3: love it. 1280 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 1: Stop doing crimes, everybody, because the helicopter will shoot. 1281 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 3: Yes, I got the pigeon to bring a helicopter that 1282 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,719 Speaker 3: will stop you from doing crimes. Of course, the pigeon 1283 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 3: thing was actually a bluff. Glebsky knows he is on 1284 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,560 Speaker 3: his own now. This leads up to the interrogation of 1285 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,759 Speaker 3: Hankas scene. Hankas is like the last one eating breakfast, 1286 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,559 Speaker 3: and then Glebsky watches him and pulls him aside. He's like, okay, 1287 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 3: I know about you from the note I received. You're 1288 01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 3: this criminal called Owl, and Hankas says, no, I'm not Owl. 1289 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. He's asked about 1290 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 3: the gun. He denies that it's his, but then suddenly 1291 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 3: he sort of busts out and unleashes martial arts that 1292 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,839 Speaker 3: he would not have seemed prepared to deliver, Like he's 1293 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 3: been playing like he's in poor health, but he easily 1294 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,559 Speaker 3: beats up Glebsky, knocks him nearly unconscious, takes the gun 1295 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 3: with him, and then while the inspector is lying on 1296 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,759 Speaker 3: the floor, we hear Hankas fighting with someone else off camera, 1297 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,680 Speaker 3: and somehow I guess it is Simone the physicist. Like 1298 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,680 Speaker 3: Simon a beat bestshnkas and then helps Glebski up. That's unexpected. 1299 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so now it's time to interrogate Hankas once. 1300 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, round two here and Hankas finally spills the beans. 1301 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 3: He's like, okay, here's the deal. Have you heard of 1302 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 3: the hit squads? That's what he says. I was a 1303 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 3: member of one of them. Something terrible is going on here. 1304 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 3: Supernatural forces are at work. He explains that quote. Half 1305 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 3: a year ago, some guy approached us. No one knew 1306 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 3: his name. They called him Master. They assigned him the 1307 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 3: hardest jobs, remember the second National Bank job. That was 1308 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 3: his doing. But then he quit working for us, left 1309 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 3: us high and dry. Oh. Yes, he was always a 1310 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,160 Speaker 3: bit eccentric. Wouldn't let us kill hostages or anyone. He said, 1311 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 3: we shouldn't. That's why we had a fight with the 1312 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 3: boss and then he disappeared, along with his assistant and 1313 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,679 Speaker 3: his wife. I was ordered by the boss to find them, 1314 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,040 Speaker 3: And Glebsky says, and you found them here? Who are they? 1315 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 3: And Hankas says, no, you tell me who they are. 1316 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 3: What man could get the better of me as if 1317 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 3: I were a kitten. So you think he's talking about 1318 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 3: Semone here because Simine just like beat him up after 1319 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 3: the first interrogation, and we look at Semine. But actually 1320 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 3: it goes in a different direction. Hankas says, this woman 1321 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 3: Moses knows I would not let him live, so he 1322 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 3: set his wife against me. She was coming right at me. 1323 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 3: You don't believe me, but I was approaching myself. And 1324 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 3: so we see in Hankas's flashback Missus Moses in her 1325 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:03,639 Speaker 3: fur coat seeming to transform into a doppelganger of Hnkas 1326 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 3: and then attack him by pushing him out a glass window. 1327 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 3: So what's going on? I don't know, But missus Moses 1328 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 3: apparently can become can like transform her appearance and become 1329 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,480 Speaker 3: copies of people and attack them. 1330 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have shape shifters among us now. 1331 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 3: Sohnkus admits he's here to hunt down this guy, the 1332 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 3: Master and his assistant and his wife. Now, Hinkas says 1333 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 3: he doesn't actually know what happened to Olaf. He says 1334 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 3: he never laid a finger on him. But his gang 1335 01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,599 Speaker 3: boss is coming with three or four guys to finish 1336 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 3: the job, to kill mister Moses, who, in fact, the 1337 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 3: nondescript mister Moses, who seemed so innocent and you know, 1338 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,360 Speaker 3: not even very remarkable, was in fact this this criminal mastermind, 1339 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,640 Speaker 3: the master who did the second National Bank job, and 1340 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 3: except he got into some kind of squabble with this 1341 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:08,800 Speaker 3: terrorist or criminal gang and now they're looking for revenge. 1342 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 1: All right, So we've reached the secret mob members level 1343 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 1: of the big reveal here. 1344 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 3: But then there's going to be another reveal, which is 1345 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,920 Speaker 3: so there's a confrontation where Glebsky goes into a room 1346 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 3: with Snaevar and Simone. They're all here gathered in the room, 1347 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 3: and when Glebsky enters the room, he sees himself what 1348 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 3: but then the other hymn transforms back into someone else. 1349 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 3: He realizes that here in the room are mister and 1350 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 3: missus Moses and someone else. Luarvic sitting doubled over in 1351 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 3: a chair, and Glebsky tries to say, okay, based on 1352 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 3: the testimony of Hincus, mister Moses, you are guilty of 1353 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 3: the robbery of the Second National Bank and of the 1354 01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 3: murder of Oloff, and I'm going to have to arrest you. 1355 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,639 Speaker 3: But Simone is there and he explains, no, no, no, 1356 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 3: you don't get it, Inspector, these are not humans. They're 1357 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 3: aliens from another planet. He says, I don't know where 1358 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 3: they're from, another dimension or galaxy, but they're in trouble 1359 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 3: and we have to help them. He says, mister Moses 1360 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 3: arrived here as an observer, but he made a fatal mistake. 1361 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 3: He should not have contacted humans. And mister Moses explains that. 1362 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 3: He says, it's true. I wasn't supposed to interfere with 1363 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,719 Speaker 3: human life, but when I saw how you were living, 1364 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 3: I broke the rule. I wanted to help you so much, 1365 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 3: but your life proved to be too complex for me. 1366 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 3: So somehow this part is a little murky for me. 1367 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 3: But somehow mister Moses, being an alien observer of Earth 1368 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 3: who was supposed to look at human life but not 1369 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 3: interfere with it, decided that he took pity on us 1370 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,160 Speaker 3: because of all the human suffering and got involved. But 1371 01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,760 Speaker 3: the way he got involved was with some kind of 1372 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 3: criminal gang. I'm not quite sure I'm making the connection there. 1373 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe there's some sort of robin Hood thing going 1374 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 1: on there, or maybe he was like, crime is doing 1375 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 1: a lot of damage. I'm going to get in there 1376 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 1: and do crime really well, but not hurt anybody. Yeah yeah, 1377 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 1: and that why so I don't know, you know, he's 1378 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:21,160 Speaker 1: going up against very difficult societal and yeah, yeah, problems 1379 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:21,719 Speaker 1: and so forth. 1380 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 3: So but given all the backstory we already got from Hinkas, 1381 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 3: now we know that the gang bosses are hunting down 1382 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 3: these these fugitive aliens, and so mister Moses is here 1383 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 3: at the hotel so he could leave the planet. They say, 1384 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,080 Speaker 3: here in the mountains is our launch pad, but the 1385 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:43,679 Speaker 3: avalanche destroyed the generator that powered our robots. So Missus 1386 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 3: Moses and Oloff are the robot helpers of mister Moses 1387 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 3: and Luarvic. The man they discovered outside is the pilot 1388 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 3: of the alien spaceship, and he was severely injured to say, 1389 01:16:55,880 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 3: his spacesuit is torn. He's becoming weaker every second. So 1390 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 3: so what I mean this reveal is very sudden, and 1391 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,920 Speaker 3: it's just kind of like poured on Glebsky and like, 1392 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,200 Speaker 3: how is he supposed to react? 1393 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it doesn't come with reveals of robotic 1394 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 1: interiors to human bodies or anything like. 1395 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,200 Speaker 3: Right, but they say that remember that suitcase Olof was 1396 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,360 Speaker 3: reaching for, It actually has another battery and if they 1397 01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,839 Speaker 3: return it, if they if Glebsky will return the battery 1398 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,519 Speaker 3: to them, Oloff can be revived and then he won't 1399 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 3: be dead at all. He's just a robot who's on 1400 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,679 Speaker 3: low power and they'll give him more power and he's fine, 1401 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,400 Speaker 3: so this won't actually be a murder. But Glebsky thinks 1402 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 3: this is all madness. He says that every crime can 1403 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 3: be explained by appealing to fantasy, and this leads to 1404 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,720 Speaker 3: arguments between Glebsky and Semone. Simina is saying like, look, 1405 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 3: you're being offered proof right now, see for yourself. But 1406 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 3: Glebsky says, interestingly, quote, I'm not a scientist, I'm a 1407 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,520 Speaker 3: police officer. I've heard too many lies about the suitcase. 1408 01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,720 Speaker 3: So he's sort of saying that he operates not just 1409 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,639 Speaker 3: on physical evidence, but by primarily suspicion of motive, which 1410 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,919 Speaker 3: can even override physical evidence. 1411 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 1: Hmmm. Oh. 1412 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 3: We also find out here that mister Moses is the 1413 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,400 Speaker 3: one that called the police and slipped the note into 1414 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 3: Glebsky's pocket, and it's because he wanted to be rid 1415 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 3: of Hinkus and he knew Hankus was there. He was 1416 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,720 Speaker 3: the criminal who was hunting him. And so at one 1417 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 3: point in this conversation, mister Moses laments. He's like, it's 1418 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 3: it's troubling that you won't be convinced because our robots 1419 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,760 Speaker 3: are too convincing as humans. You know, if they were 1420 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,960 Speaker 3: just obviously robots, then maybe you'd believe us. He says, 1421 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 3: it's a pity I can't show you my real face. 1422 01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, this is kind of getting to my earlier 1423 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 1: point about this is not the sort of film that 1424 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 1: is that that needs to show you the alien face 1425 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 1: that the robotic interiors. Again, I wouldn't have said no 1426 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 1: to it, but you can understand this choice based on 1427 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 1: this interaction. Yeah. 1428 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but here we get this this conflict with Glebsky 1429 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,519 Speaker 3: where he's like, no, I must turn you into the law. 1430 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,919 Speaker 3: So he's he's conflicted, and he wanders around the hotel alone. 1431 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 3: At one point he even picks up a phone receiver 1432 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,880 Speaker 3: and then says in voiceover narration that he wishes the 1433 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,880 Speaker 3: phone would simply give him orders to follow because he 1434 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,600 Speaker 3: sort of feels like he can't think for himself, he 1435 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 3: can't decide what's the right thing to do. So he 1436 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 3: walks out into the snow and he meets Brune out there. 1437 01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,639 Speaker 3: Remember Brune was the one who was in love with Olaf, 1438 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 3: and Brune begs him to give the battery to them 1439 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 3: so they can revive Oloft. So she's read into the 1440 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,520 Speaker 3: whole theory now and she believes it. He's like, Glebsky 1441 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 3: tries to tell her this is nonsense, it's a fairy tale, 1442 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 3: but she says, if there's something that even might help him, 1443 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,639 Speaker 3: you've got to give it a try. And she says, 1444 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 3: if Olof is an android, maybe she's an android too. 1445 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,799 Speaker 3: She says, how could I know? So this all finally 1446 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,759 Speaker 3: leads to a conclusion where Glebsky is trying to arrest 1447 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 3: mister Moses and won't give the battery back, but eventually 1448 01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,280 Speaker 3: he is sort of overpowered and overruled by Simone and 1449 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,160 Speaker 3: by Snaevar, who both they are aware of the aliens 1450 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 3: and robots, and they want to help them, so they 1451 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,439 Speaker 3: sort of restrain Glebsky, and they get the suitcase and 1452 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 3: they give it to the Aliens so that Oloft can 1453 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:17,720 Speaker 3: be powered back up. And there are these moments in 1454 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 3: here where Semine is reflecting on the tragedy of the situation. 1455 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,679 Speaker 3: Simone says, here is the first encounter between two worlds. 1456 01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 3: Think of how amazing this is, but think that they 1457 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,200 Speaker 3: arrive from god knows where. First they meet terrorists, and 1458 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,240 Speaker 3: then they meet a police officer like you, Glebsky, sort 1459 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 3: of saying like you're showing them the worst side of humanity. 1460 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 3: But finally, as the Aliens get the battery back and 1461 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 3: they are allowed to escape, like the whole building starts 1462 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,799 Speaker 3: shaking and rumbling like something huge is coming. Glass shatters 1463 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 3: in the windows and we hear a voice echoing saying 1464 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:58,360 Speaker 3: goodbye humans. Real contact is yet to come. And then 1465 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 3: we get one of the most striking shots the movie, 1466 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 3: which is the aliens departing. They're like cloaked figures seemingly 1467 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 3: skiing uphill without skis to the top of the mountains 1468 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,679 Speaker 3: so they can get in their spaceship and leave. 1469 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, just just robots, moving swiftly, unnaturally over the surface of. 1470 01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 3: The syn Right, so Missus Moses is carrying mister Moses, 1471 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 3: Olaf is carrying Luarvic and they're gonna escape to the stars. Unfortunately, Oh, 1472 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,240 Speaker 3: here comes a helicopter. And at first you might think, oh, 1473 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 3: the helicopter, that's that's gonna be their rescue, right, No, 1474 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,639 Speaker 3: it's the gang. It's the gang members. It's Hnkas's gang arriving, 1475 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,679 Speaker 3: and the helicopter buzzes over their heads. Finally, after Snavar 1476 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,480 Speaker 3: sees it and says God forgive us all, the helicopter 1477 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 3: unleashes its guns and it kills the two Aliens and 1478 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 3: the the androids and they lie dead in the snow. 1479 01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, blows them right up. Aliens robots completely destroyed. 1480 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 3: So the helicopter we see like the Saint Bernard howling 1481 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 3: in pity. The hell copter leaves Silent Mountain peaks with 1482 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 3: this with again the creepy, squeaking synthesizers playing out the story, 1483 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,559 Speaker 3: and in the end, the camera zooms in on the 1484 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,280 Speaker 3: sun and then zooms out from the hotel. There is 1485 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 3: a lot of zooming of the camera in this film, 1486 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 3: and a huge avalanche approaches billowing over the mountain side, 1487 01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,680 Speaker 3: finally enveloping the camera. This is one of these avalanche 1488 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 3: shots we talked about earlier, and the final shot of 1489 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 3: the film is actually Glebsky later in black and white, 1490 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,599 Speaker 3: suddenly staring directly into the camera and he asks why 1491 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 3: you're looking at them looking at him. He insists that 1492 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,680 Speaker 3: he acted correctly. He says, by upholding the law, he 1493 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:42,360 Speaker 3: performed his duty and the law is sacred, and he's 1494 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 3: sort of like he gets defensive and angry, and it 1495 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 3: just repeatedly insists directly into the audience's face that he 1496 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 3: was right, he did the right thing, and considerations to 1497 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 3: the contrary are just being illogical. 1498 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Now corning to the feature D, this scene, this apper 1499 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 1: at the end in black and white, with him speaking 1500 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,439 Speaker 1: directly to the camera. This is actually footage from this 1501 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,559 Speaker 1: is casting footage for the film, and they added it 1502 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,479 Speaker 1: in post because the studio thought that the ending wasn't 1503 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 1: clear enough. 1504 01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 3: That's interesting, which which. 1505 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 1: Is Yeah, I mean I think it still works. You know, 1506 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,680 Speaker 1: it reminds me a bit of you know, some of 1507 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:28,400 Speaker 1: those those fourth wall breaking moments in Baraka or the 1508 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 1: ending of the mission. You know, there's a and and 1509 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,000 Speaker 1: it makes sense. It's not completely out of contact with 1510 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 1: the film, because we get those scenes where he's narrating, 1511 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 1: he's speaking to us, and then it seems kind of 1512 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 1: fitting that at the end he is looking at us, 1513 01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 1: He is addressing us directly about this strange encounter that 1514 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,720 Speaker 1: he had and these choices that he had to make. 1515 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess that does it for Dead Mountaineer's Hotel. 1516 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,679 Speaker 3: But I found this a really interesting film. It does 1517 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,840 Speaker 3: actually raise interesting themes in the end, but they kind 1518 01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 3: of come late in the film, these themes about like, 1519 01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 3: can this bureaucratic functionary, this policeman make a decision that 1520 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,640 Speaker 3: makes sense given what he's just encountered, or can he 1521 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,120 Speaker 3: just like not accept what's in front of him and 1522 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 3: sort of act as a as almost as a machine, 1523 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:13,679 Speaker 3: as a robot himself. 1524 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a fascinating film. I really enjoyed diving 1525 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:22,800 Speaker 1: into it. I enjoyed getting into this realm of Estonian cinema. 1526 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll throw it out to our listeners there. 1527 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,800 Speaker 1: If you've seen Dead Mountaineer's Hotel, or if you've read 1528 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:33,480 Speaker 1: the source material, or are you yourself listening of from Estonia, 1529 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,839 Speaker 1: do you do you have additional insight about Estonian culture 1530 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:41,080 Speaker 1: and cinema locations, actors, and so forth, write in We 1531 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,600 Speaker 1: would love to hear from you. 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