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Speaker 1: chaos scenario. Maybe there are just no elite teams. Maybe

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Speaker 1: there are no Tier one teams in the ACC this year.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, then it's game on, because then

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Speaker 1: everyone can beat everyone within reason. So I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I expect some chaos in the ACC. Now the Big Twelve,

432
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Speaker 1: this is the easiest one in the whole bunch. It's

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Speaker 1: a ten in the Big twelve. Chaos is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: It will be the Chaos Conference. Ten teams in the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve have plus nineteen hundred or better odds. It's

436
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Speaker 1: basically FanDuel's version of saying, you think you know this conference,

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Speaker 1: have at it. Here are the odds like UTAs favored,

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Speaker 1: but can the state's right there with them? And then

439
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Speaker 1: you got three more teams with better than with plus

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Speaker 1: eight to fifty or better odds. How is this not

441
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Speaker 1: going to be chaotic? Where's the elite roster in the SEC?

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Speaker 1: You could circle a team like Georgia and say, hey,

443
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Speaker 1: if they have their act together, that's gonna be pretty

444
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Speaker 1: cut and dry. You could do the same thing with

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Speaker 1: Ohio State or a Michigan in the Big ten. Hey,

446
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Speaker 1: if they've got their act together or in Oregon, it's

447
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Speaker 1: going to be pretty cut and try this conference right here,

448
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Speaker 1: there is no top ten recruiter perennially, there's Jesse. Is

449
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Speaker 1: there even a top twenty recruiter perennially, I don't think

450
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Speaker 1: there is right there. So it's just a developmental conference.

451
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Speaker 1: So there's no large roster gap, really good coaching up

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Speaker 1: and down the conference. And Kyle Whittingham is coming into

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Speaker 1: the conference. So how do I don't know how, how

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Speaker 1: in the world would we ever have a year in

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve given the nature in the post ou

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Speaker 1: Texas era where someone just kind of glides through to

457
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Speaker 1: the finish line. That will not happen. So the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what kind of prop bet

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Speaker 1: I would need, but I would bet an unhealthy sum

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Speaker 1: of money that will be the Chaos Conference this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, How nice to talk football? How nice that is?

462
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Speaker 1: So much so that we're about to do it again.

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Speaker 1: I do have some stuff on the back end immunity, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for old time sake there, but I do have some things,

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Speaker 1: regrettably that are off field in nature. To talk about

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Speaker 1: it in a little while, but not yet not yet sip

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Speaker 1: from the chatice please, Okay, spring practice. Now, what I've

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Speaker 1: gathered is some of you care about spring practice. Some

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Speaker 1: of you don't care about spring practice. That's okay. What

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Speaker 1: we do if we talk about spring practice is we

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Speaker 1: don't really talk spring practice. What I always do is

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Speaker 1: I have our ear to the ground, and whatever we're hearing,

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Speaker 1: I always try and push it ahead to the fall,

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Speaker 1: like what's it gonna mean? So with that in mind, Colin,

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Speaker 1: here's your endpoint. Some of the biggest spring questions, specifically

476
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Speaker 1: around the SEC I wanted to hit Chris Hummer did

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Speaker 1: a great job over at twenty four seven sports dot

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Speaker 1: Com and this piece is still up if you want to.

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Speaker 1: We took a lot from that and combined it with

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Speaker 1: some stuff we're hearing. And I want to start with

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Speaker 1: Georgia for just a second, because it's not really centered

482
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Speaker 1: around a mass exodus. A lot of these other teams

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: questions with them because they lost a lot of players. Well,

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Speaker 1: Georgia on the defensive line didn't lose a ton, it's

486
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Speaker 1: just that they lost a ton two years ago. So

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Speaker 1: last year, for example, they used to be third in

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Speaker 1: the nation in yards per rushing attempt. Well, last year

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Speaker 1: they were thirty seventh. It's not a knock. It's just

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Speaker 1: hard to lose that much talent and remain at the

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Speaker 1: level they were playing at. Last year they were sixty

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Speaker 1: eighth in sacks per game. They had sixty less pressures

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Speaker 1: defensively last year than they did the year before. So

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Speaker 1: they've recruited, well, they've developed well. Talked to Kirby last

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Speaker 1: week or two weeks ago about it, Colin. Actually, let's

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Speaker 1: hear what Kirby had to say about it. Two or

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Speaker 1: three things that have your attention the most as spring

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Speaker 1: ball opens.

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Speaker 2: Would be what depth depth at all positions? Like can

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Speaker 2: we create offensive and defensive line depths. When I look

501
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Speaker 2: across football, the games change and less big guys are playing.

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Speaker 1: There's less.

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Speaker 2: I mean, every NFL scout that comes in here says

504
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Speaker 2: we can't find offensive lineman, we can't find offensive linemen. Well,

505
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Speaker 2: that's what we do here. We recruit offensive linemen. We

506
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Speaker 2: get big guys and we develop them. Defensive lineman, there's

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Speaker 2: just less of them, there's less big people. So we

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Speaker 2: want to establish depth at both those positions and We've

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Speaker 2: got a lot of young guys in here at those

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Speaker 2: two positions.

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Speaker 1: If they're worried about it at Georgia, they're worried about

512
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Speaker 1: it everywhere. So defensive lines what I'm focused on with

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Speaker 1: Georgia could have gone wide receiver to but I went

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Speaker 1: defensive line. How about the dB position at Tennessee, they

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Speaker 1: lost five starters in the defensive backfield off a defense

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Speaker 1: that was very improved for Josh Heipeland and his defensive

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Speaker 1: staff last year. They've got a couple of injured guys back,

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Speaker 1: They've got a couple of transfers coming in. They got

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Speaker 1: a couple of underclassmen. So like, it's not bubble gum

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Speaker 1: and paper clips that they're building the secondary with. They

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Speaker 1: have guys with promise. This is college football, it's not

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You don't know the names of everyone who

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Speaker 1: are going to end up being big contributors for you

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Speaker 1: this fall. It's just that Tennessee has to have several

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Speaker 1: of them come together if they want to hang out

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Speaker 1: in the same kind of territory they did defensively last year,

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Speaker 1: same position, different team. Alabama at defensive back. This probably

528
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Speaker 1: won't get as much attention in the spring outside of Tuscaloosa.

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Speaker 1: But Fama's losing one hundred and four combined starts in

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Speaker 1: their secondary. They lost kool Aid terry On Arnold to

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Speaker 1: the draft, Caleb Downs transferred, they lost Earl Little Christian story,

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Speaker 1: Trey Amos to the transfer portal. I've got Buddy's claimant

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Speaker 1: to know me better than anyone calling me during a

534
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Speaker 1: live show, and Malachai Morre's back, and who else not

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Speaker 1: really anyone you would know. So again, it's kind of

536
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Speaker 1: like Tennessee. I would say Bama's probably recruited an even

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Speaker 1: better caliber athlete in the secondary than Tennessee. You just

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Speaker 1: don't know them. So I actually pulled up with producer

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Speaker 1: Jesse earlier today, their last few recruiting classes, their depth

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Speaker 1: in the secondary going into the spring, and they brought

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Speaker 1: in some transfers too, And I thought to myself, I

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Speaker 1: actually like these players, but that doesn't mean anything because

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Speaker 1: they have to play as a unit, and you've got

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Speaker 1: new staff in there as well. So that's what That's

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Speaker 1: what God invented spring football for. That's why it's a

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Speaker 1: question mark instead of a weakness. There are no weaknesses

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Speaker 1: in spring, as Mima says, only question marks LSU's defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Having said that is a question mark. They are losing

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Speaker 1: three key guys at LSU. They lost Wingo, they lost Smith,

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Speaker 1: they lost Jefferson, and they were even with those guys,

551
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Speaker 1: ninety first in the country last year in rush yards allowed,

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Speaker 1: So they were already sub par, which came as a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, the defensive staff last year was very subpar.

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Speaker 1: They had the lowest graded defensive staff according to our

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00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: internal numbers, they had the lowest graded defensive staff in

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Speaker 1: the SEC. They'll have one of the best this year.

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Speaker 1: I could talk to you about players. Honestly, I'm focused

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Speaker 1: on bo Davis coming in there. I'm focused on Kevin

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Speaker 1: People's coming in there. Blake Baker is the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: But the previous two names I mentioned are both guys

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Speaker 1: who are four star or better coaches, and they are

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Speaker 1: both going to be coaching that defensive line. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I don't know if they're going to be top

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Speaker 1: ten in the country. But whatever LSU's potential is on

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Speaker 1: the defensive line, specifically this year, they will maximize it.

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Speaker 1: They will maximize whatever potential they have. Last year, as

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Speaker 1: you well know, they had a Heisman caliber quarterback. In fact,

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Speaker 1: he won the Heisman. I have it on good word

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Speaker 1: he did. And yet they lost three games because they

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Speaker 1: could not stop molasses in December. So inexcuseabill got to

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Speaker 1: be better. Texas A and m knew everything out there right, well,

572
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Speaker 1: not necessarily. They are eighteenth in returning production. They did

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Speaker 1: have a lot of guys go out via the portal.

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Speaker 1: They've got a lot of them coming in via the portal.

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Speaker 1: Mike Elko's got a new staff, but they've got some

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Speaker 1: continuity on the roster. One place they don't have it

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Speaker 1: so much is defensive back. They've only got one starter

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Speaker 1: returning back there. Now. They got ten new scholarship dbs

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Speaker 1: on campus and got big names still to come. They're

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Speaker 1: trying the LSU approach kinda. You remember this time last year.

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Speaker 1: We actually had Brian Kelly on the show and I said,

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Speaker 1: you're bringing in all these dbs off the transfer portal market.

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Speaker 1: They're just all gonna gel and coalesce. He actually was

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Speaker 1: very honest about it. He said, no, that's a red

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Speaker 1: flag for us. That should be you should call it

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Speaker 1: a red flag for us. We don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: going to work out. Well it didn't, and so will

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Speaker 1: it work out with Texas. A and M not a weakness.

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Speaker 1: That's why we call it a question. And also stay

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Speaker 1: in the state of Texas. But let's go down to

591
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Speaker 1: Austin and that is the defensive line. That's the position

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Speaker 1: unit in question that I want to talk about. There.

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Speaker 1: They're losing high level run stuffers, well they're losing high

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Speaker 1: level defensive linemen, but specifically sweat Murphy against the run

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Speaker 1: about as effective as it gets. It's not always a

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Speaker 1: red flag. This is again, this is where you test

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Speaker 1: your development, where you test your recruit. Texas has done

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Speaker 1: both very well. You go stack as many of these

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Speaker 1: guys as you can so that when these kinds of

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Speaker 1: times come, you're ready for it. Now. They went and

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Speaker 1: got an NFL replacement for Bo Davis leaving as defensive

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Speaker 1: line coach. So we're watching that, Carrie Baker, I believes,

603
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Speaker 1: who came in there from the Dolphins. So we're watching that,

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Speaker 1: and that secondary to the actual players who are going

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Speaker 1: to be on the field. Those are some of the

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Speaker 1: things we've got our eye on. And as we start

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Speaker 1: tailoring our ladder spring coverage, I start giving you some

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Speaker 1: scoop and some intel and nuggets we're picking up on.

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Speaker 1: You'll probably hear a lot about those position units moving along.

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Speaker 1: and the show will sound and feel the exact same.

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Speaker 1: That is the promise of not me. Hey, I just

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Speaker 1: Jesse are promising you. Yes, yeah, they didn't disagree, So

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Speaker 1: there we go. Colin, do you have that tweet from

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Speaker 1: the gas station? Yeah? Okay, So I know that sounds

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Speaker 1: a little weird if you're listening on podcast, But one

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Speaker 1: I'm minding my own business the other day and I

641
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Speaker 1: ask for submissions for the Late Kick Extra podcast and

642
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: then Quick Trip just starts throwing haymakers left and right.

643
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: And there's been this pretty toxic back and forth between

644
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Speaker 1: Pate State and Quick Trip the Twitter account ever since.

645
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: While I put out the call to action the other day,

646
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: and sure enough, there's Quick Trip should be selling snacks,

647
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: should be pumping gas instead. They're submitting questions for the pod,

648
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: and they said, what is your go to convenience store snack? Well,

649
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: you know what, it takes a big man to put

650
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: aside his differences and answer the question. And I am

651
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: that big man. I go with the Planter's trail mix.

652
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm a name brand guy. You guys can have the

653
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: store bought variety unless I'm at BUCkies, who we pledge

654
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: allegiance to every day on this show. Unless I'm taking

655
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: the Buckies' brand name stuff, I gotta go with the

656
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: big boys. I gotta go with Planners, and I go

657
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: with the trail mix. But they go heavy on the

658
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: raisins sometimes, Colin, I know you hate that as well.

659
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: They go really heavy on the raisins, and so to

660
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: our not necessarily our friends, but our acquaintances at Quick Trip.

661
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: If you guys could just do me one favor. I

662
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: don't want any human hands touching it. It needs to

663
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: be more like Buckeyes, never touched by the human hands.

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Speaker 1: If you guys could just remove the raisins from the

665
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: Planters trail mix, otherwise I'd be good to go, and

666
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: you may get more visits from me. Good good, Okay,

667
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: So there we go. We've done our duty for Quick

668
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Trip tonight. Oh boy, guys, I'm trying to figure out

669
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Speaker 1: what attitude I want to have as I talk about

670
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: this next topic because it seems like the kind of

671
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: thing that should get me worked up, but I'm not

672
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: really worked up about it. So I'm gonna take a

673
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: sip from the chalice and I'll let you know what

674
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Okay, So lost in Colin here's a

675
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: good endpoint for you. By the way, lost in all

676
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Speaker 1: the other big headlines over the past couple of weeks,

677
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: James and New Orleans. Notice this, what is your verdict

678
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: on college football games happening on Fridays? Now? Yay or nay?

679
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: So what he's talking about is the Athletic had a

680
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: story a couple days ago. Now times running together for me,

681
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 1: it was this week at some point, and they said

682
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: that Fox Sports will have a package of college football

683
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: games on Friday nights. I say that like it's plural.

684
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: They'll have one game per Friday night, and it'll be

685
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: a Big ten, Big twelve, Mountain West. It'll be like

686
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: a combination of those teams. So no SEC, no acc

687
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: but they're going to have, in their mind the best

688
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: game on Friday and then they'll have big noon kickoff

689
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: on Saturday. They lost WWE, So what was it? Jesse

690
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: SmackDown was on Fox right on Friday nights. So back

691
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: in my day it was on Thursday. But I digress.

692
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: So they lost the WWE contract, and as soon as

693
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: that happened, there was talk within the industry that they

694
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Speaker 1: were gonna put a college football package on Friday night

695
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: to fill that space. So they've done that. Okay, So

696
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: some people had outrage over this. Some others just looked

697
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: at it and said, oh, that was kind of me.

698
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: In fact, I looked at it and said, all right,

699
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: because I'm not quite sure where the outrage is coming from,

700
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: because college football has been happening on Friday nights for

701
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Speaker 1: a long time. Am I wrong on this? College football

702
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: games have been happening on Thursday, much bigger games used

703
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Speaker 1: to happen on Thursday than they do now. But Friday

704
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Speaker 1: night games have been happening for quite a while. Like

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Speaker 1: I know this because once upon a time down in Columbus,

706
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: I was working local news. I'd have to be out

707
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: shooting high school football games and I'd be checking my

708
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Speaker 1: phone on Friday night games that are being played. And

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Speaker 1: that is your pushback on this, By the way, a

710
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: lot of you who have a problem with this, you're

711
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: saying Friday night should be for high school football. And

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00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. I mean, you're making a

713
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: good point, and I fully support high school football. But

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times it's the report that

715
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Speaker 1: leads to the outrage more so than the thing itself.

716
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Speaker 1: For example, if you were to open your phone right

717
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: now and it said breaking news, terrible drivers plan nationwide

718
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: clogging of passing lanes on interstates starting tomorrow, you'd be outraged.

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Speaker 1: But the thing about it is it happens every day

720
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Speaker 1: in America. Take it from someone who drives a lot.

721
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: The left lane, people, is not just like any other lane.

722
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: It's not you get on the on ramp and then

723
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: flip a coin and whatever it lands on, I'll just

724
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: pick a lane. They're all the same. They're not all

725
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: the same. Get over get I know I sound seventy

726
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: five right now, but what I'm saying is right. I

727
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: cannot trust that all of you guys have been taught

728
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: to drive properly, especially in my college crowd. So take

729
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: it from Uncle JP. That left lane is for passing

730
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: or faster traffic, and those right lanes are for everyone else.

731
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: And you can be either, but just make a choice.

732
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: Don't hang out in that left lane. Well, anyway, if

733
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Speaker 1: there was a report that came out that broke the

734
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Speaker 1: news that people were planning on doing that, you'd take

735
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: to Twitter and you'd call your buddies. Did you hear

736
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Speaker 1: what they're planning on doing in the left lane tomorrow? Well, instead,

737
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: you're just gonna wake up tomorrow and get out on

738
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: the road and you're gonna see it, and you know

739
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: you'll be aggravated by it, but you won't be outraged.

740
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: I think if this report would not have surfaced, and

741
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: I would just played Purdue on a Friday night, you

742
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't really care all that much. But because you saw

743
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: a report about it coming for high school football, they're

744
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: coming to take high school football from us. In my

745
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: perfect world, guys, Friday would be exclusive for high school,

746
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: Saturday would be exclusive for college, and Sunday would be

747
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: exclusive for the NFL. But we don't live in a

748
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: perfect world. We live in a world where Stanford can

749
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: see the Pacific Ocean yet also play in the ACC.

750
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: That's the world we live in right now. So it

751
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: was tough for me to be overly outraged by it.

752
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: If you are, I get it. I'm not happy about it,

753
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: per se, But I just it got to like a

754
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: three maybe on my one to ten rage scale, and

755
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: that rage scale has been peaking lately, so trust me,

756
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: it works. It's calibrated. Next up this is this is

757
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: a fun thing that we were gonna do like two

758
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and we kept having to put it off.

759
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: So we're doing it tonight. You know that's worth the

760
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: paper pop persistence pays off. Kendall hit me up and said, Hey,

761
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: which coaches do you think have a chance to win

762
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: their first conference title this year? Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri.

763
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: What Missouri can't win the SEC? No, they haven't big

764
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: difference and haven't and can't. They haven't won the SEC.

765
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: It's the curse of SEC affiliation. Actually, because if I

766
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: were to take Missouri as is and putting them in

767
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: the Big twelve, my guess is that'd be favored to

768
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: win the conference, and if they weren't, they'd be right

769
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: up there. They would be very competitive in the odds

770
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: market in the ACC as well. So just cause they're

771
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: in the SEC, same team, different conference, people look down

772
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: on them. Well, they're returning Brady Cook again at quarterback,

773
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: Luther Burden maybe the best receiver in the country. He's

774
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: back again. They're thirty first in returning production from a

775
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: team that just went eleven and two. That doesn't guarantee anything,

776
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: but it makes me feel a lot better because normally

777
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: when a team like Missouri wins eleven games is because

778
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: they were loaded to the gills with a bunch of

779
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: guys who were about to go off to the NFL

780
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: or maybe the Portal, and that didn't necessarily happen to

781
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: the degree that it gutted their roster. Like Michigan's in

782
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: the low one twenties in returning production, Washington's like one

783
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: thirty in returning production. Missouri won eleven games thirty first

784
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: returning production. They were thirteenth in the portal rankings as well.

785
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: So they brought in some guys they hired extremely well.

786
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: They lost some good coaches and they backfilled with just

787
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: as good a caliber coach, and we tracked that stuff.

788
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: They also avoid Georgia, Texas, LSU, and Tennessee in conference play.

789
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: So it's doable, man, I know it's tough, but it's doable.

790
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: What about Dan Lanning feels like an inevitability that he'll

791
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: eventually win a conference title? Played for one last year

792
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: we were there actually on a Friday, No less, we

793
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: were there. So Dan Landy could win a first conference

794
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: title in his career this year, it would be a

795
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: Big Ten title. Could have the best quarterback room in

796
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Speaker 1: the country, maybe at least one of the best quarterback

797
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: rooms in the country. They are one of probably i'd

798
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: say four or five really legit contenders for the Big

799
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Ten championship this year. They'll hold up in the Big

800
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: Ten at the line of scrimmage, which is something I'm

801
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: not as ready to say about Washington or USC or UCLA.

802
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: And so, I mean, that's why FanDuel has them with

803
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: the number two best odds to win the conference. Who

804
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: can victimize their secondary? If you're talking about organ right

805
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: now and you've got questions about him, it probably starts

806
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 1: in the secondary, I would guess. And so that's one thing. Okay,

807
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: it's one thing to have maybe a weakness, But who

808
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: on your schedule is built to expose it? Is the

809
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: follow up question we've seen in this sport in the past.

810
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: There have been teams with glaring weaknesses, but they just

811
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: play a conference schedule that it's not built to expose it.

812
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: So on or schedule right now, you find me the

813
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: quarterback or quarterbacks who are built to expose that that weakness,

814
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: perceived weakness in the secondary Ohio State they play at

815
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: home in Austin October twelfth. I think we may be

816
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: at that game. We'll see. But outside of that, where

817
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: are we looking? Where we're looking now? Admittedly I have

818
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: no clue what Wisconsin will look like by November sixteenth.

819
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: With Tyler van Dyke up there, I was looking at

820
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: one of our shows we did this time last year

821
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: when he had patented the nickname Tyler van Dime. I

822
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: haven't forgotten, all right. Also, Dave Doran, I've talked about

823
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: him earlier. N C State's head coach, Dave Doran, entering

824
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: year twelve at NC State, just the model of consistency.

825
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: He has won nine or more games six of the

826
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: last seven years, got the fifth best odds to win

827
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: the ACC this year. So again, let's just picture a

828
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: scenario this year where Clemson is not quite elite. Florida's

829
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: they lost a lot from last year. Maybe they're good,

830
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: but not great, They're not quite elite. Hey, that's a

831
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: conference that could be really, really muddy, and it could

832
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: be really hazy, and then all of a sudden that

833
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: little wolf Pack logo at the end emerges. Wouldn't be

834
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: the biggest shock in the world, and it would be

835
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: Dave Dorian's first conference championship. So Clemson, FSU, Miami, Louisville,

836
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: NC State. They have the fifth best odds in the

837
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: conference right now. They play Tennessee, I believe in Charlotte. Yeah,

838
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: in week two. That'll be a pretty good gauge because

839
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: they go to Clemson two weeks later. They don't play

840
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: FSU in the regular season, so let's keep an eye

841
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: on them. And lastly, this is a state I'll be

842
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: in next week. Actually, Lance Leipold is entering his fourth

843
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: year at Kansas, and they got a shot. I mean candidly,

844
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: a lot of folks have a shot in the Big twelve.

845
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: But they've gone from two to ten to six and

846
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: seven to nine and four. We call that trajectory. It's

847
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: not always pretty and linear, but in Kansas's case, it

848
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: has been. Jalen Daniels is back. The talk around college

849
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: football last year, She'll let you in on a little something.

850
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: The talk was he was good as gone, and then

851
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: he put out a statement that said, nope, all of

852
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 1: you were wrong and I'm happy about it. Everyone was wrong.

853
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: I believed it, and so I was wrong too, I guess,

854
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: or maybe things changed. Either way, They've got him back

855
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: and if he's healthy, they've got one of the best

856
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the Big Twelve, and their schedule is primed.

857
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: They have the third best odds to win the conference,

858
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: by the way in football. Yeah. Now, they have a

859
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: weird home schedule situation this year where they're gonna play

860
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: some of their games at Arrowhead Stadium. They'll play their

861
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: other home games at the stadium of Sporting KC, Which,

862
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: for those of you who are unwashed, is known as soccer,

863
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: and so they're having renovations done on their stadium. That's

864
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: why that's happening. So that'd be kind of weird to

865
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: win your first conference title and not even have a

866
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 1: home game to do it technically, But crazier things have happened.

867
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: They're watching us in Pickering, Ontario, Canada, wood Bind, Kentucky,

868
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: San Diego, California, Saint Simon's Island down in Georgia. You know,

869
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: I've never been there, and I grew up in Georgia.

870
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: There's some it's a weird thing about the coast of

871
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: Georgia because it's forever away from Harris County where I

872
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: grew up, and I just never I never went over there.

873
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: We take field trips to Tybee Island, but it was

874
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: in Little League baseball season, so we couldn't go them.

875
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't necessarily have a time share over

876
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: off the coast. So well, I mean, I SATs I

877
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever been there. Larry Munson used to

878
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: talk about that place all the time on Georgia radio broadcast,

879
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: and I've never been there. Shame on me, shame any

880
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: Savannah's really nice though, really like Savannah. Okay, let's let's

881
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: talk about this thing. So I I try not to

882
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: let it get buried in all of the playoff expansion

883
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: talk that we also have this whole side show happening

884
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: with the ACC in Florida State, Right, Colin, here's the endpoint.

885
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: So Bud Royster hit me and said, why would ESPN

886
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: drop the ACC in twenty twenty seven? Now what he's

887
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: talking about is some reporting that Ross Dellinger did last

888
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: week that I will read for you in just a second,

889
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: because I really harped on it for a reason because

890
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: I had been winking and nodding at you on this

891
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: show and hinting at it for a little while. FSU

892
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: is thought to be locked in. The ACC is thought

893
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: to be locked in with ESPN via that grant of

894
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: rights until twenty thirty six, and it is thought to

895
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: be the albatross around the ankle, and it's just gonna

896
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: be terrible for everyone. But they can't get out, they

897
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: can't go anywhere. Well, that's not necessarily true. It hasn't

898
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: been true. It just wasn't known because no one had

899
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: their hand on that grant of rights until they did.

900
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: And so in these legal proceedings that have been going

901
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: back and forth, it was finally revealed. And I'm gonna

902
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: read from the Dellinger piece that was written last week.

903
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: Here's what was revealed. While ESPN's contract with the ACC

904
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: extends through twenty thirty six, the network has the option

905
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: to opt out of the final nine ye're starting in

906
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, a way that ESPN itself could possibly

907
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: reopen the grant of rights or at the very least

908
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: restructure the deal. Now. Could a restructured deal with uneven

909
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: distribution prevent more departures? Would an ESPN opt out swing

910
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: open the door for more schools to exit the network.

911
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: Pay attention here. The network must exercise the option by

912
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty five. And so what I said

913
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: on the Sunday Show was that's a very real possibility.

914
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: Bud is hitting me back and saying, well, why would

915
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 1: they do that. They got a really sweet deal there,

916
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: they're paying next to nothing, They've got some really good

917
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: inventory one of the power for conferences. Well that's a

918
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: good question, Bud. So there are a few reasons why

919
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: it could happen. The first is maybe you got deals

920
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: with other conferences, and maybe you think some of those

921
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: ACC properties of yours make more sense in another bucket

922
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: than the buck they're currently in. I mean, that's pretty

923
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: cut and dry. If you own the ACC, but you

924
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: also own the SEC, and you think you could further

925
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: bolster the SEC's portfolio and disproportionately make more money off

926
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: that than having these brands tucked away in a much

927
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: less valuable ACC. Maybe you'd entertain it. But the other

928
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: reason could be maybe one or more of those member

929
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: institutions is going to lead either way now. Right now,

930
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: FSU or anyone else would have to pay an astronomical

931
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: sum of money to get out of there. Don't focus

932
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: so much on how they're going to raise the capital.

933
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you pretty in fact, no one certain

934
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: terms they're getting out of there. Florida State's gone one

935
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: way or the other. Folks in the room have known

936
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: this for a while. And so maybe ESPN or maybe

937
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: the folks at the ESPN would be looking and saying, well,

938
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: if this thing has a chance of dissolving anyway, might

939
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: we want to exercise options in our control while it's

940
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: still within our control, because it could get really crazy

941
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: if we wait till it's not in our control anymore.

942
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: You can't know, is the point? Right now? I am

943
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: fourteen floors above downtown Nashville. If we heard a loud sound,

944
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: we could easily go out and see over several city

945
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: blocks what was it. But if we're on the street,

946
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: if we're down here on Commerce Street, we could hear

947
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: that loud sound and we don't know what it was.

948
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: We can't see through buildings, we can't see around the corner. Well,

949
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: we can't see around the corner on the stuff right now.

950
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: But if you start putting two and two together, and

951
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: may you know, maybe I'm kind of kind of fibbing

952
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: there because we do have kind of an elevated view.

953
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: I mean, there are some folks that we can get

954
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: bits and pieces of news from. But if you start

955
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: putting two and two together here, I don't really know

956
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: that many people think the ACC's just going to remain intact.

957
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: The question is more how is this going to happen?

958
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: And the other question is when is it going to happen?

959
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: Now the how I just detailed could be several different ways,

960
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: and then there's that fun game of well, if the

961
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: ACC does break up, where are those memory institutions going?

962
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: How many of them are attractive? But when it happens?

963
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: When it happens is the really fun question, guys, because

964
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you think about sports like I do,

965
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: especially college football. You know, once upon a time it

966
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,240
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967
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: it was always way off in the distance, years down

968
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: the road. How many times if you have the olds

969
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: tell you what's going to be years before that happens, Well,

970
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: it's going to be months before this happens. So you

971
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 1: remember I said that on March fourteenth. I been saying

972
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: it for a while. You will know something about the

973
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,360
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974
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: like this won't be that much further down the road,

975
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: because the wheels have been in motion and a lot

976
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: of this stuff is nearing the finish line of how

977
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,520
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978
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981
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982
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984
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1019
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: There is a topic I hold in my hand that

1020
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: quite honestly, I didn't know that we would ever talk

1021
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,680
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Speaker 1: going to be well, I'm gonna try and keep my composure. Okay,

1023
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: So listen to this one. Lee from Tallahassee, Florida, said, first,

1024
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: thank you for not being Brandon Walker. You're welcome, Lee.

1025
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: He continues, question, Bud Elliott has hinted at, and maybe

1026
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: even argued for a college draft and elimination of eligibility restrictions.

1027
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: Do you see either of these awful, awful options as

1028
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: legitimate possibilities? Now, I will admit to you I haven't

1029
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: heard Bud say that, and I drove all the way

1030
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: back from Harris County to Nashville last night. So I

1031
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: listened to the most recent episode of Cover three and

1032
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: I did not hear anything like that. That doesn't mean

1033
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: he hasn't said it. That just means I haven't particularly

1034
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: heard it. But let's just pretend like he did, and

1035
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: let's have some fun at Bud's expense here. I actually

1036
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: presented this idea once upon a time, But as many

1037
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: frequent listeners and viewers of the show know, sometimes I

1038
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: do the whole alternate universe thing, which is where in

1039
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: a consequence free environment and a responsibility free environment, I

1040
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: can just make things up famously. I have an opinion

1041
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: that I think is so radical in this alternate universe

1042
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: that I haven't even presented it on this network, this platform,

1043
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: this show before that. Still not going to do it.

1044
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: It has to do with scheduling, but I'm not going

1045
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: to do it yet. But I did once upon a time,

1046
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: just kind of wander aloud. Colin happened to have the

1047
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: mic on and the camera rolling. I just wandered aloud,

1048
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: what would college football be like if players got drafted

1049
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: instead of recruited? Well, like, what would it look like?

1050
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: Forget about how crazy the ideas or how unfunctional it

1051
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: would be. Just what if it happened, Like, what would

1052
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: it look like? Now? The first thing I thought was

1053
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: what it would do to the recruiting industry. So the

1054
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: recruiting industry would I mean, it would still exist, but

1055
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: I almost wonder how much different it would look like?

1056
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: Would it look like the Mott Draft community? Would we have?

1057
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: I think the seven on seven circuit. I think the

1058
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: camp circuit would have become much more combine esque. And

1059
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: I think that instead of having individual camps on home

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Speaker 1: campuses or CAMPI plural of campus, you would have regional

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Speaker 1: camps which kind of already exist where but there would

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Speaker 1: be mega camps like the Atlanta Combine, the Cleveland Combine,

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Speaker 1: and I think that all the teams would go there.

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Speaker 1: I think that would happen. I also think that you

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Speaker 1: would have to shave it down considerably from one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty four teams, because you we're going to have

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Speaker 1: a snake draft. What are we going to do? It's

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Speaker 1: like a fantasy football team or league. So I think

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Speaker 1: what you would do is you would probably I don't know,

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Speaker 1: shave it down to the power for the power too

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Speaker 1: even and then is everyone just getting equal numbers of

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Speaker 1: draft picks? Can you imagine knocking on the door at

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Speaker 1: Georgia and saying, Kirby not recruiting anymore, you can get

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Speaker 1: rid of all these guys. Now we are going to draft.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna draft, so you're gonna have the same opportunity

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Speaker 1: to select players as South Carolina does and as Kentucky does.

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Speaker 1: And how do you feel about that, Bud? Huh, you've

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00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: heard some of his locker room speeches. You'd get that

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Speaker 1: on camera. You'd probably get it. So again, for a

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Speaker 1: million and one reasons, I don't think it would happen,

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00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: but in some alternate universe, it's interesting to think about

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00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: how it would happen. Now, the elimination of eligibility, that's

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00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: actually something at the personnel symposium we have here in

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00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: Nashville every year. A lot of people in the industry

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00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 1: were here last year and that came up. I remember

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00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: that came up and people were just it was an

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00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: open for him, throw out some ideas and let's talk

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00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: about him. And someone said, hey, what if we just

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00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: didn't have eligibility. I mean, we're in a we're in

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Speaker 1: an environment right now where guys are playing their seventh

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00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: and eighth years. What if we just didn't have eligibility?

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00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: What if? What if the true market forces of need

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00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: were all that dictated whether you were on a team

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00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: or not. I don't think i'd be a fan of

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00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: that either, because I one of the things I love

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00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: about college football is things keep moving, like, guys keep

1097
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: coming in, guys keep leaving. Everything, every roster is refreshed.

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00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: It's like completely turned over every two or three years.

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Speaker 1: I actually like that. I also think it's a way

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Speaker 1: to inject hope into you know, and into fan bases

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00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: that have been long suffering. Of course, you've always got

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Speaker 1: that freshman class coming in. You always, you don't you

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00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: don't want to be getting beaten over the head by

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Speaker 1: a team. And then look and say, lab McConkie can

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Speaker 1: play another five years at Georgia if he wants to.

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Speaker 1: What's what? No, So I wouldn't want that either. But

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Speaker 1: I had one other thing. Okay, so since Bud allegedly

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Speaker 1: said this, I want to throw a third thing in there. Now,

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Speaker 1: this won't be popular in these hallways, but everyone's gone

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Speaker 1: home for the night already. I'm not advocating for this,

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking what would this be like? Imagine if

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Speaker 1: I snapped my fingers and recruiting rankings just didn't exist.

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Speaker 1: On threes not there, twenty four to seven's not their rivals,

1114
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Speaker 1: not there. None of these things ever existed, Like it

1115
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: was never born as an idea. You can go back

1116
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: even before the website era. Imagine if it just if

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00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: there was just college football teams recruiting guys they've scouted,

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00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: but the public has no metric that's placed on the players.

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Speaker 1: Imagine how many more schools would have more hope going

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Speaker 1: into a year. See, that's crazy. Like a lot of

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Speaker 1: people say, expanding the playoff is going to give more

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Speaker 1: teams more hope. Buddy, if you did away with recruiting rankings,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't know that you've been, on average recruiting the

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Speaker 1: forty fifth best class of the country. You just think, hey,

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Speaker 1: had an offer from Ole Miss and he came here,

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Speaker 1: so that's great because we're Middle Tennessee. So that's great, right,

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Speaker 1: And you know then what's gonna happen is gonna happen

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Speaker 1: to you on the field, But you wouldn't know what

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Speaker 1: to expect what are you gonna do? Go scout all

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Speaker 1: of them yourself. Of course you're not. That kind of

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Speaker 1: footage is on the recruiting websites, and they wouldn't exist

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Speaker 1: in this hypothetical scenario. Now, it should be noted I

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Speaker 1: would not have a job in this scenario either, because

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Speaker 1: I was hired by twenty four to seven Sports four

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Speaker 1: years ago. So the more I thought it through, the

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Speaker 1: more I realized this probably is not well thought out

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Speaker 1: for me. But in a fun hypothetical alternate universe, it's

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Speaker 1: at least interesting. You know what, here's a little call

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Speaker 1: to action in the comment section down there. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to put your name to this. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to advocate it for it actually happening. But if you

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Speaker 1: just have fun over in like Fantasyland, what is one

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Speaker 1: switch you wish you could flip in the sport just

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Speaker 1: to see what would happen? Have a draft, have no eligibility,

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Speaker 1: have no recruiting rankings. Those were the ones we talked about.

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Speaker 1: What would you have happen? You know, would you do

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Speaker 1: away with pass interference just to see what would happen?

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Speaker 1: Why not play a game without Helman's Again, there's no

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Speaker 1: It's not real. It's a simulation relegation anyone promotion and

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Speaker 1: relegation system. It's all fair game in Fantasyland. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for watching and listening. For director Colin,

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