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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.

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Speaker 2: Ow hi, God, Okay, we're on. Oh yeah, we got

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Speaker 2: it together. Don't worry about us. We totally have it

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Speaker 2: all together.

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Speaker 1: It's like an audio train wreck.

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Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, Billy Porter's here.

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Speaker 3: He's about to walk in and uh, but there are

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Speaker 3: things we don't want to talk about because of the strike.

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Speaker 2: Going right, Just gotta be careful.

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Speaker 3: Well no, but I want to do exactly what he

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Speaker 3: wants us to do because it's his interview. I wanted

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Speaker 3: to feel comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Well he can, he can lead us through that right

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Speaker 1: about what he can't talk about?

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Speaker 2: What he can't talk about exactly bringing.

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Speaker 3: Where there's Billy Billy Hello, Billy Porter's here. You have

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Speaker 3: to walk us through this interview. And if ever I

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Speaker 3: go down a road you don't want to go down,

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Speaker 3: just say I can't go down that road.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. We're on right now, we're on now here. Don't

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Speaker 2: use any foul language.

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Speaker 4: Nail foul language.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what color is that? It's green?

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Speaker 4: It's nice.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's like it's called chrome. They call it.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming in, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: There's something about Billy Porter when he walks into the room,

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Speaker 3: something changes. It's for the good, right, okay, I mean

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Speaker 3: take it barometric pressure. I don't even know what that is.

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Speaker 3: I feel a little gassy when Billy Porter walks in.

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Speaker 3: Sorry about my beard. It's it's November, so I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to like grow it up.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to grow mine out too. Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 1: You look good. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's important to look good. Do you feel good? Though?

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Speaker 4: I feel great?

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm I have new music coming out and

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Speaker 5: I'm really excited about that. Black Mona Lisa drops November seventeen.

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Speaker 2: That's the album. That's the album.

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Speaker 3: You and Lady Blackbirds sound so great together the voice.

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Speaker 3: If you're not familiar with Lady Blackbird, you're about to be.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play the song awesome.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to bring up something because I

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Speaker 3: want you. This is your interview. So if we go

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Speaker 3: down our road, you don't want to go down. You

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Speaker 3: just I can't go down that road, okay? Can I

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Speaker 3: can say why?

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 3: It says here on my notes from my my producer

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Speaker 3: straight Inate, it says, well, we have to remind people

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Speaker 3: don't know why.

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Speaker 2: It's not the best.

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Speaker 3: It could be the best here anyway, it says Elvis,

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Speaker 3: due to SAG after strike, please refrain from any questions

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Speaker 3: dealing with TV and movies. I'm like, okay, so we

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Speaker 3: can talk about music then because the album. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: can you talk Can you talk about music, yes? But

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Speaker 3: can you sing music?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sing but not Broadway?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a whole nother conversation. Can you promoting a

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Speaker 5: pop album and you want me to sing Broadway?

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Speaker 2: But we don't. I can't, we want, we want that,

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Speaker 2: you know, don't get mad?

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Speaker 5: Were not can't get the Apparently people can't take in

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. I'm gonna go. We'll

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Speaker 2: just talk about the album. I have no problem.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I would love to, but I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: not cannibalize my project.

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Speaker 2: The words that have been used.

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Speaker 3: I'm so serious by the higher ups. Okay, no, ill

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Speaker 3: cannibalize the pop music.

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Speaker 2: We're not with focusing.

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Speaker 4: On the theater music. Wow, that's the reason it's not mine.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 4: There's so many even makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: There are so many people that love so many different genres.

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Speaker 2: Of music. Yes, and you are preaching to the choir

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Speaker 2: say no more, I feel about Okay, we're cool, We're

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Speaker 3: Here's what, as my dad would say, this is what

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Speaker 3: scalds my dog. You live your life passionate about so

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Speaker 3: You work, you train, your passion is still about to

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Speaker 3: but you can't do anything about it. It must have

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Speaker 3: you just pissed the hell off. Yeah, I mean a

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Speaker 4: It's a very strange time. You know, we in the

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Speaker 5: Union are fighting essentially for a living wage, you know,

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Speaker 5: and a lot of people don't understand, you know, just

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Speaker 5: in a nutshell that being a freelance artist is being

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Speaker 5: a blue collar worker in this world. And sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 5: we get to have real success in it. And right

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Speaker 5: now it's it's about the have and the have nots.

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Speaker 5: Right now it's about you know, corporate greed versus what's

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Speaker 5: actually really fair. If you look at the statistics, you know,

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Speaker 5: out of one hundred and sixty one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 4: Only two percent of us work regularly.

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Speaker 5: Of those two percent, point two percent are the superstars

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Speaker 5: Out of that two percent, eighty four percent of that

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Speaker 5: eight thousand dollars to qualify for their medical answer. Wow,

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Speaker 5: and these and and our heads of studios are making

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Speaker 5: anywhere between fifty two to seventy eight thousand dollars a day.

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Speaker 5: There's something wrong with that and it has to be fixed.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 5: As I mean, you know, that's where that's where we are.

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Speaker 5: That's it, That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: But Billy as a performer, as an artist, what do

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Speaker 3: you do to I mean, you do an album?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm one of the lucky one. What do

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Speaker 5: I'm one of the lucky ones because I get because

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Speaker 5: I'm so multi hyphenated that I get to exist in

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Speaker 5: and you know, thankfully Black Mona Lisa, the music is

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Speaker 5: album comes out on November seventeenth. We're really excited. We're

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Speaker 5: going over to London to do some promotion. So like,

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Speaker 5: I'm a lucky one because I always have something to

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Speaker 5: and this album is really you know, it's my magnum opus,

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Speaker 5: I call it. You know, one of my favorite albums

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Speaker 5: is Stevie Wonders Songs in the Key of Life. Ever

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Speaker 5: it's like for me, it's that it says all of

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Speaker 4: You know, I wrote all but one song on the record.

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Speaker 2: That was Daniel's question. Yeah, I wrote all but.

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Speaker 5: One song on this on this record, and you know

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Speaker 5: it is from the depths of my soul. Every single lyric,

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Speaker 2: And I'm very proud of it.

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Speaker 4: How do you write?

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Speaker 5: Do you like?

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Speaker 1: We always ask like people See has been here, and

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Speaker 2: Do you wake up in the middle of the night

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Speaker 5: So I write with you know, writing teams, you know,

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Speaker 3: So the creative process is still churning, always, always.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's the only thing that This is what

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Speaker 5: I'm worried about because me saying, because I.

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Speaker 3: Have friends who are Broadway in stage performances, and I've

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Speaker 3: it's the pandemic again.

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Speaker 2: What else do I do? Yeah, you know, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've been following this as we all have,

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean, if they want to feel different places,

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Speaker 5: You can't create this new thing and then have no

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Speaker 1: And they keep raising their prices.

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Speaker 5: You know, and so it's like, well, we can't do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is the same in our industry too. We

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Speaker 3: haven't been paid in fourteen years. That's why I can't afford.

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Speaker 3: Did you Billy Porter is here? By the way, We

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Speaker 3: got to play a track from Black mona Lise in

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Did you say that you want to be the new

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Speaker 3: Whitney Houston. No, that's a male Whitney Houston.

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Speaker 5: I thought I wanted to be the male Whitney Whitney.

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Speaker 4: There's no other Whitney Houston.

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Speaker 5: It was. It was when I was young. It was

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Speaker 5: in those naive dreams when I was fourteen, I said,

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Speaker 5: I wanted to be the male Whitney Houston. Now I

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Speaker 5: just want to be the male Billy Porter. Okay, and

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Speaker 5: or the whatever Billy Porter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you've got?

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Speaker 4: Are you almost?

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Speaker 2: I am almost at an e gut? You got three?

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Speaker 2: Give me the three you have.

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Speaker 5: I have two Tonys. I have one Grammy and one Emmy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we have an Oscar there we have to

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Speaker 2: the Oscars? The way? Is that definitely on your listener to.

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Speaker 3: I got to do this before I can time.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a for me, It's about the work,

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Speaker 5: you know, I've been blessed to, like I said to really,

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Speaker 5: you know studying at Carnegie Mellon. Really, you know what,

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Speaker 5: what studying there really taught me was how to live

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Speaker 5: as an artist, how to.

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Speaker 4: Choose being an artist first.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes when you have success as a real artist, you know,

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Speaker 5: the fame component can set in, you know, like, but

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Speaker 5: Necessarily mean the other happens. You know, it's a gift

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Speaker 4: Fills my soul and also has the intention of healing.

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Speaker 2: You know, the.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's focus on something else.

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Speaker 3: I love if I know you're going to be in

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Speaker 3: an event. I always watch that red carp When Billy

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Speaker 2: It's so great?

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Speaker 1: Are you your stylus can't do that?

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Speaker 4: I don't have time to do that.

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Speaker 2: Please you tell you just just someone's gay doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: But do you have the vision?

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Speaker 4: Like do you say this.

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Speaker 4: A vision? The whole thing is my vision, But like

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Speaker 2: You know, my main stylist is t Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Is it funny? Gets doesn't funny? Get dressed up? I've

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Speaker 4: But you get to I.

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Speaker 5: Get to come in and their clothes of rats, and

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Speaker 5: I get to choose. And you know, everybody knows what

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Speaker 5: my intention is. You know, I'm a part of a

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Speaker 5: these new words. You know, if I was born today,

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Speaker 2: Like I probably probably would. I'm just gay. I'm fifty

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Speaker 4: I'm just dad. I'm old school gay. But that's all

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Speaker 4: I got time for. I don't have time for the other.

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Speaker 4: And whatever the kids need me to call them, I'm

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Speaker 5: Okay, whatever your pronoun needs to be, I'm gonna call.

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Speaker 2: You that man.

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Speaker 5: It's all right. It whatever you need, it's what we'll do.

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Speaker 5: Just give us a minute to learn it. Don't be

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Speaker 5: mad if we make mistakes, please, amen, We're all trying.

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Speaker 2: To get it right, right, that's right.

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Speaker 4: So my thing is my pronouns are he? Him, she? Her? They? Them?

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Speaker 4: That bitch? You might have to bleep that, okay, right, bitches.

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Speaker 5: I can't call nobody no m efforts I'm sure you're

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Speaker 5: tempted to, but you can't you hear is tabus?

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Speaker 2: I gotta play the song, Yes, play the song. Play Imagen,

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Speaker 2: listens to Lady Blackbird this thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, no, listen for me first, damn no,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's my record.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, But.

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Speaker 5: Lady Blackbird is spirit, so listen to her.

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Speaker 2: She's amazing.

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Speaker 3: The album Black Mona Lisa is out November seventeenth. Billy

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Speaker 3: Porter will receive our vote of yes. I can't wait

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Speaker 3: to your whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Can I pre order it now?

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Speaker 2: You can pre order.

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Speaker 3: It right now, Bubby one. Daniel, you got money, She's

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Speaker 3: got money. What her husband's in real estate.

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Speaker 4: He's British. By the way, I like the bridge. I know.

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Speaker 1: That your next Do you want a British husband?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 4: I did I say that? She did?

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Speaker 5: Maybe I did, Maybe European somebody from across the pond.

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Speaker 2: I got to play the song. But anyway, thank you

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Speaker 2: for coming in, thank you, thanks for thanks for bringing

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Speaker 2: your light in here.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely go get Black Mona Lisa. Y'all pre ordered Daniel.

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Speaker 4: Will know I am, I am all right?

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Speaker 2: Where is it? Where's children? I got where is it?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to work. They shouldn't let me

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Speaker 3: do this. I'm gonna hit you, Billy Porter, everyone,