1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here. If you like this 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to make your own, let me 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you about the free platform Anchor. It's a creation 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: right from your phone or computer. You can add songs 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: from Spotify and create any type of content that you 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: are looking for. 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Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 2: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: on iTunes and visit cultivatingheirspace dot com to access our 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: women like you. We're your hosts, Doctor Dominique Bussard, a 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: college professor and psychologist. 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 28 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: five roads to fake friends, and create a safe space 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: where black women can just. 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: Be Hey, lady, it's doctor Dom here. From the Cultivating 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: her Space podcast. Do you have a burning question you're 33 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: dying to get feedback on? Do you want an unbiased 34 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 3: perspective on a situation you're facing. If so, visit cultivatinghirspace 35 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 3: dot com and click ask doctor Dom under the start 36 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: here option. Every Tuesday, I'll choose a few questions and 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: answer them at random. Our quote of the day, family 38 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: is where you're meant to be most free. Don't let 39 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: blood chain you down, all right, t. 40 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean the second part of that quote is just 41 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: it's going in right. I don't know for me when 42 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: I hear that, I hear your blood relatives don't have 43 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: to be your only family. What about you? 44 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: It's so funny that you shared that, because when you 45 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: ask that, I was just about to say, now I'm 46 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: about the boomerang this right back over to you real quick, 47 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: so I can take time to think about. Oh, it's 48 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: so deep. I mean these quotes, Okay, I think the 49 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: first part people are like, yeah, you know, families where 50 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: you're meant to be most free. Yeah, I resonate with that. 51 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: And then when it's like, don't let blood change you down, 52 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, like you said, right, there's another aspect 53 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: of family that isn't necessarily tied by blood, but maybe 54 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: by vibration, right, maybe by your spirituality or the experiences 55 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: that you have with them. And so lady, today we're 56 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: about to dive into a conversation that for some may 57 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: be challenging. It might even be triggering for some people, 58 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: right when you think about the relationships they have with 59 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: their families. And I think the beautiful thing about this 60 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: conversation is like always where we're going to be, you know, 61 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: ending on a positive note, and we're going to be 62 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: sharing some tips on how to cultivate that community when 63 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: you aren't close to your family, because I know, for me, 64 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: I've always you know, I've heard about people being estranged 65 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: from family members, and I never really understood what that meant. 66 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: Like I was just like, oh, okay, that's so weird. 67 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: I could never imagine, you know, what that looks like 68 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: because I grew up in a very what I thought 69 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: was a close knit family. And so I guess the 70 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: first question would be, lady, when you think about your 71 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: relationship with your family, how would you describe that? Like, 72 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: how would you describe your relationship with your family? And 73 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: I know for me, dom this has evolved drastically, you know, 74 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: I think as a kid, it was very much a 75 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: close knit family. And even though I was raised in 76 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: San Diego for some time and my family, my core 77 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: family was back on the East Coast. My mom was 78 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: very adamant that we stayed in touch, so we were 79 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: calling our grandparents, and as a kid didn't really like 80 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: understand the value of that before I developed, like my 81 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: own relationship with my grandparents. But as a kid, it's like, Okay, 82 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: I got to call my mom and pop pap, so 83 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: you call them, and you know, you speak to some cousins. 84 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: And we moved back east, I got even closer. And 85 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: that's when I had my own relationship, so no one 86 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: had to tell what to call my grandparents. I would 87 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: just go over there. I would just call them because 88 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: we had our own relationship. I was older and more mature. 89 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: But I think that holidays, barbecues, block parties, those are 90 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: all things that I participated in growing up, and so 91 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: for me, that made me feel like it was a 92 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: close knit family. But when I think about the quality 93 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: of their relationships, I honestly only think that there were 94 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: a handful of relationships that were close knit, that were 95 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: considered relationships that I could be free in right, relationships 96 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: that I felt fully supported in, and not just surface level. 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: So that's kind of like the evolution. I would say 98 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: part one of my family that I want to see 99 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: what your experience was like, Dom, I. 100 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Would say that mine is pretty similar in that respect that, 101 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: like I remember as a child in my through up 102 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: until probably Katrina, my family would go to my grandmother's house, 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: my grandparents' house for Sunday dinner, right go to church 104 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and then after church we would be at 105 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: my grandparents' house and then sometimes one of my aunts 106 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: and her family would come and then, you know, so 107 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: it's like sometimes other my mom's other siblings would be there, 108 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: but every Sunday we were there. And I remember, even 109 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: when I started college, like I would still figure out 110 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: like even if it meant like I didn't have a car, 111 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: and it meant that somebody was coming on campus to 112 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: pick me up so I could be there for a 113 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: Sunday dinner, you know. And then once I did get 114 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: a car in my senior year, I would go there 115 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: for Sunday dinner and then go to work. And that 116 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: was like, that's something that's a memory, a fond memory 117 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: that I have. And then I think about like as 118 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: I got older, like once I moved and went to 119 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: grad school, like like you, I learned to have cultivate 120 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: my own relationships with my grandparents. And so I started, 121 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: even though I couldn't be there physically on Sundays, I 122 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: started calling on Sundays so then I could still somewhould 123 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: be a part of the Sunday dinner, you know, with 124 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: the family. And I think about now as an adult, 125 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: how each of my siblings have different relationships with my grandmother, 126 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: and each of my siblings we have our own different 127 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: relationship with my mom and then even our individual relationships 128 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: are you know, like are unique, and so I think 129 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: about that from the perspective of I can remember a 130 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: point in life where I had these expectations of what 131 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: a family was supposed to be or how a family 132 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: was supposed to be connected, and there would be points 133 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: in time where I would find myself feeling disappointed that 134 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: my family didn't look like other people's families, right, that 135 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: my family didn't do activities the way other families did 136 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: and I didn't have And I think back to the 137 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: episode where most recently where we had Doctor Tama on 138 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: and we were talking about mother daughter relationships, and I 139 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: think about how my mom and I don't have that 140 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: relationship and so of like a best friend type situation, 141 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: and I just think about, like the expectations that I've 142 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: placed on myself around what family should look like, and 143 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: the process that I've gone through in terms of reconciling 144 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: in my own mind what I am grateful for within 145 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: my own family, and then and what I need as 146 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: an individual and how to get that need met if 147 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: it's not coming from my blood relatives. I know that 148 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: was a lot no. 149 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: That was beautifully stated down, and I'm just thinking about 150 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: Sunday dinners that you shared and how you know, ah Man, 151 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of visualizing that and thinking about the 152 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: traditions that we used to have with my grandparents. Because 153 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 2: it's funny. I noticed that you said my grandmother's house 154 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: and you said my grandparents' house. We used to always 155 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: call my grandparents' house my mom's house, even though Pop 156 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Pop it was his house too. It was just like, 157 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: this is my mom's vibe. She's the one that I said. No, 158 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: it's just I don't know. She's decorating for all the 159 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: high people. I mean, her house was the one stop 160 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: shop for all the holiday dinners. And we talked about 161 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: this in a previous episode as well, about I think 162 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: it was around the holiday season and how it seems different. 163 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: And I think back to those memories that you talked 164 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: about and also my personal experiences, and it's like, dang, 165 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 2: I cherish them. I cherish all of those memories, but 166 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever experienced that particular experience again 167 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: because my grandparents aren't here. Also, I don't even know 168 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: what that's going to be like for my children because 169 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: we're not even in the same area. We don't have 170 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: those same sort of family ties the way that I 171 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: grew up with. And it's not necessarily a bad or 172 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: good thing. It just is what it is. But I 173 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: think that you made a really good point in that 174 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: as you get older, you kind of think about the 175 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: expectations and expectations that are sometimes unrealistic that you're putting 176 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: on people. I know, for me, the older I got, 177 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: the clearer things got for me by way of who 178 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: people were in my family. And there were some people 179 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: I was just like, damn, I literally only talked to 180 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: you because you have this title in my life, like 181 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: we're blood related, But outside of that, you would not 182 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: be a person that I would even engage with. You know, 183 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: not saying everyone in my family's bad, but there are 184 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: definitely some leeches and definitely some people that you know 185 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: are I mean, the gossip thing and just a lot 186 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: of vibes that don't resonate with me. And I think 187 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: for me dom after my grandmother passed away, that's where 188 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: things really started to like fade right holiday. She was 189 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: getting sick toward the end of her life, so the 190 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: holiday dinners just weren't the same like when we were younger, 191 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: and you would have all your cousins and everyone over 192 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: that whole vibe change. But then also I think with 193 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: her passing, it allowed me to see things as an 194 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: adult and see that, Wow, there are certain people where 195 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: you know, when I was younger, I saw you a 196 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: certain way. But now in my adulthood, I realize and 197 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: I say this, I was going to say, with all 198 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: due respects, but maybe not. But you ain't shit, you 199 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like you mean no good for 200 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm being real, Like you mean no good for yourself 201 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: and the people around you. And I am now in 202 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: a place where I set boundaries with people. So when 203 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: you call and you ask for money, even though you 204 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: are shoot twice my age, and you have your own family, 205 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to build my own family, and it's 206 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: like I'm three thousand miles away, right or you know, 207 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: I come around and it's like give me, give me, 208 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: give me, like this this sense of entitlement. Now I 209 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: kind of understand why certain family members stepped away years ago. 210 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: You ever remember those certain family members where they like 211 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: it's like the rich uncle rich auntie vibe where people 212 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: are like, oh yeah, they bougie, they live, they moved 213 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: to Virginia or they lived to California. Now that's what 214 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: us no more, right, I think about those people, and 215 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: I'm probably one of those in the family, But I 216 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: see why because a lot of them were like, yo, 217 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: I'm trying to elevate and get out of the drama 218 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: and the nonsense and cultivate my own community and vibe, 219 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: and certain people in this family don't really, you know, 220 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: live by that. And so it's funny because I notice 221 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: that those people that moved away, they tend to be 222 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: doing better. They tend to have more peace in their life, right, 223 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: they tend to just have a different lifestyle in general. 224 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: And so I would say that today my family and 225 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: who I consider my family is very different. Like I 226 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: probably on my hand can count the people that I 227 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: have close relationships with and my family, my siblings, you know, 228 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: they're always there. I have one aunt that I talk 229 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: to and the few people that I might see on 230 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: social media. But as far as like deep relationships where 231 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: I like know the person, I mean, it's very very few. 232 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: And sometimes I used to think, like, dang, let's kind 233 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: of say, like is that a bad thing that it's 234 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: that way? But then I remember the vibe and the 235 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: standards that I have for people in my life, and 236 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: a lot of those folks, we just the vibe. It 237 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: just it doesn't match, you know, It's just not that 238 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: it's no good for me being a person that is 239 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: always giving and the people that are around me. Dom 240 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: I can honestly say that I'm the kind of person 241 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: where if you're in my life, I'm going to do 242 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: my best to elevate you and me like I'm going 243 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: to be moving forward, and I like to be able 244 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: to do that. Some people they're not ready for that, 245 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: they don't want that, or they just want to know 246 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: leach off of you, And so I think that that 247 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: really does define how those relationships look. 248 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's complicated, right because I think 249 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: about folks who and I appreciate your perspective of putting 250 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: that out there right that, because I think what happens 251 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: is is that there are a lot of folks out 252 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: there who don't have healthy relationships with their family or 253 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: who don't feel like their family. Like you said that 254 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: y'all are on the same wavelength, and then people feel 255 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: a lot of shame around talking about it, right because 256 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: there are other folks out there who their value is 257 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: we're family. No matter what, and they will put up 258 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: with let me back up and be a bit more 259 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: intentional and compassionate in my language. They will allow purtful 260 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: and painful things to continue to happen within the family 261 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: for the sake of maintaining that value of having a family. 262 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: And I think that that can be really hard for folks. 263 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: And so I appreciate you naming that and putting that 264 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: out there that you have said boundaries for yourself, and 265 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: you have said, you know, this is the life I 266 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: want to lead, and I am going to be unapologetic 267 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: about having the family that makes me feel safe in love. 268 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: Tom, you did it again. You hit the nail on 269 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: the head. I mean, I couldnot agree with you more. 270 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: And you know what, you made a good point, Like 271 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: I think there definitely is a level of compassion empathy 272 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: that we had to have for people that kind of 273 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: feel stuck. But there are situations that I put up 274 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: with in the past where I did it just because 275 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, I felt obligated. I'm like, oh, this is 276 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: my family member, even though I don't want to do this, 277 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: even though I don't want to, you know, I'm going 278 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: home in the visit. I don't want to go drive 279 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: this person to this place. I don't want to lend 280 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: anyone money. That is one that comes up a lot, 281 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: you know, and whether or not they pay you back. 282 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't want to have those types 283 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: of relationships. I mean, dom you and I. I'm sure 284 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: that if either of us needed something, we would be 285 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: there for one another. But we don't have a relationship 286 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: where we're like asking for money. And I personally I'm 287 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: down to do that cause I've done that with friends 288 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: and I've also borrowed money, but I tried not to 289 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: make that a ritual or a practice, and that was 290 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: something that came up a lot for me when I 291 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: think about certain relationships where it's like I don't ask 292 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: you for any of them, but you're always asking me 293 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: for stuff. So, lady, as you listen and think about it, 294 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: this is not an easy conversation to have. I think 295 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: sometimes there's a lot of shame and a lot of guilt, 296 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: and sometimes it's self inflicted right where we're like, damn it, 297 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: but I gotta do this because it's the family member 298 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: I do want to stay down. I appreciate you acknowledging 299 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: the boundaries that I've set, but I also want to 300 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: note that sometimes it comes at a cost. So sometimes 301 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: you know, your family can disown you, which is why 302 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: I'm all about being self sustaining and like also having 303 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: good relationships. I'm not going to be stink or nasty 304 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: to anyone, but at the same time, I will set 305 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: a boundary and let someone know like, oh yeah, I 306 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: don't That's not what we do over here. Like the 307 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: vibe is different, Like I will not disrespect is just 308 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: something I do not tolerate. I try my best not 309 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: to tolerate. Should I say, cause I'm still work in progress, 310 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: But I would say also being an outlier, also having 311 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: people think, oh, especially because we live in Cali down 312 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: everybody thinks Cali is just Hollywood. They're like, oh you Hollywood, Now, 313 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: oh you changed up. It's like no, I just I 314 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: set boundaries and I have to stand just for the 315 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: people that are in my life and how they treat me. 316 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: And I'm also just in a space like I'm not 317 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: interested in just having like nothing conversations and God's being 318 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: about other people and then going in their face and talk. 319 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I just you know, So 320 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate you bringing that up. It's not easy. I 321 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 2: think it's a process, and I think moving away and 322 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 2: getting married for me was really really great because it 323 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: allowed me to really remove myself from the environment. Because 324 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: I noticed that some of the folks that stayed closer, 325 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: they tend to get pulled back in into the bs, right, 326 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: because a lot of the people are still in the 327 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: same area, So it's like they get pulled back in. 328 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: And then one thing I want to say is sometimes 329 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: things happen to us based on who we're attached to. 330 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: So some shit, So I just wanted to put it 331 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: this way, so function that you probably would have never 332 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: been involved in ends up happening because you were involved 333 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 2: with this person. Maybe they're in your family, but they 334 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: were up to no good, right, and they didn't let 335 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: you know what was going on, and now you're pulled in. 336 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: So that's another reason why I really do my best 337 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: to protect my energy and who's in my life and 338 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: who I'm around, because that's important to me. 339 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, I think that that is so important. Just 340 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: thinking about you know, as you were talking, I was 341 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: thinking about how, yes, how physical distance can create emotional distance, right, 342 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: and sometimes it doesn't have to be in a negative way. 343 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: Right or in a bad way, right, like exactly. Sometimes, 344 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Like I can remember being in grad school and things 345 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: would happen in the family and I wouldn't find out 346 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: about it until I went home to visit, and I 347 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: would be like, well, what the hell, why didn't y'all 348 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: tell me about this? Why didn't y'all let me know 349 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: this was going on? Like I could have done something 350 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: to help, And the response was always, well, we didn't 351 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: want to worry you. What you don't want to worry me? 352 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: So on one hand, it was like, Okay, thank you. 353 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate you caring for me in that regard, But 354 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: at the same time I felt left out. 355 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, that makes sense. 356 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: In hindsight as an a adult adult, I'm grateful for it, right, Like, 357 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: I recognize that in the moment, my perception was, oh, 358 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm being pushed out or left out, but the reality 359 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: was that they were trying to protect me, and I think, 360 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: now being removed from that, I'm grateful for it because 361 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine the pull the stress that I would 362 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: have really been under. Actually I take that back, I'm lying. 363 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: I can't imagine the pull and the stress because there 364 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: were times where I was aware of things, and so 365 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: I know that I would have been stretched and stressed 366 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: with knowing what was happening back home, and so I'm 367 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: grateful that, you know, my family considered me in that 368 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: way and protected me in that way. 369 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: That makes sense, and that is a really good point, 370 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: and I can understand both perspectives. First I was like, Oh, 371 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: that's so sweet. They want to bother you. But then 372 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: some stuff goes down and you're like, well, I wanted 373 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: to be in the note. But then oh, it's like, 374 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: you know, it's a tricky one. I will say, Dom, 375 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: you and I have talked about this offline about me 376 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: and me currently being estranged from my mom, and so 377 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: one of my advisors in life has introduced me to 378 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: this concept of a chosen family, which I've resonated so 379 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: deeply with. So, Lady, we're going to talk about some 380 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: of the possibilities of a chosen family. So think about 381 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: those situations. We'll talk about what it means. But think 382 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: about those situations in life where you've had people that 383 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: they're not blood but you know, we were younger, you'd 384 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: be like, oh, that's my cousin, that's my play cousin, right, 385 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: or that's my I mean, that could be part of 386 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: your chosen family. And so when we think about chosen families, 387 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: chosen families are non biological kinship bonds, whether legally recognized 388 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: not deliberately chosen for the purpose of mutual support and love. 389 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 2: So the nuclear family unit was historically believed to include 390 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: a husband, wife, and children. But your chosen family could 391 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: be anybody, right, It's like a variety of people. And 392 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: I think about what my family I want to say. 393 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes you can even say your soul family, Like what 394 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: my soul family looks like. I mean, it's a colorful, 395 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: flavorful bunch people I would have never thought that I 396 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: had these, okay, these deep relationships with. But the thing is, 397 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: we talked about this in one of our episodes. They 398 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: show me. They don't just tell me, they don't just 399 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 2: pay me lip service, but they show up when it's 400 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: really needed, you know. And so I think about my 401 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: book launch. I had my book launch was that last year? 402 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: Oh damn July, thank you girl out Because I'm like, wait, 403 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: when was that? I feel like COVID has just messed 404 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 2: up our whole sense of time. So I'm like, what 405 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: year is this? Last year with the book launch. I 406 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: mean down there were so many people that I expected 407 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: to be there for me, because I'm like, we family, 408 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I thought I was 409 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: going to get some support, not a peep. But when 410 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: I tell you, my co workers, and I think I 411 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: even share this with you, don you my co workers 412 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: people that got my freaking acupuncturist. I mean people that 413 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: I just would have never even imagined they supported in droves. 414 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: They like overwhelmed the book system and you know, we're 415 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: in the midst of COVID trying to shift the books out. 416 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: I mean, they really showed out. And I was just 417 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: so overwhelmed with gratitude because at the end of the day, 418 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: we all know yet you might have some relationships with 419 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: your coworkers, but co workers don't have to support your 420 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: ass outside of work, like that is not part of 421 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: this relationship. But they showed out, okay, And I mean 422 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: that was just for me. I was like, damn, these 423 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: are my people, Like these are the people that are 424 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: here for me, and so for me, that was very 425 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: important to not hold any resentment. Although I could recognize 426 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: that there were certain people in my life that I 427 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: wish I thought were going to be there, but they weren't. 428 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: Let that go, and do't worry about who didn't show up, 429 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: but be thankful and grateful for who was there. And 430 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: so that was something I kept saying to myself. I 431 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: think about the pregnancy. Dom we've been through a lot 432 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: together already. Girl. I think about the pregnancy, same thing, 433 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: people that I thought would be there who weren't. But 434 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: then also realizing that I've had such a beautiful pregnancy 435 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 2: because I kept it close to my chosen family. Only 436 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: people that I felt safe and comfortable with knew about 437 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: the pregnancy from the beginning, and that made for such 438 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: a beautiful experience. I didn't have to worry about trauma, 439 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: no nonsense, no unnecessary stress, and my chosen family really 440 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: showed up for that. So when you think about your 441 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 2: chosen family and people that have showed up for you 442 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: in addition to family, like, what does that look like 443 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: for you in your life? 444 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: It has looked different at different stages in my life. Right, 445 00:24:53,359 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: So I think about in college where one of my 446 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: my mom's friends worked at the university, and so like 447 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: I would go and just if I needed a moment, 448 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: like I would just go in her office, and like 449 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: PLoP down and be like all right when And I 450 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: distinctly remember because she worked in the IT department, and 451 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: I distinctly remember having what were they called back then, 452 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: Oh geez, was it a floppy disk? I don't know, 453 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, the little small drive little things, Yes, the 454 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: floppy disk. Yes, So I know, right, I'm telling my age. 455 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: And so I remember. I remember that it got destroyed 456 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: and I had a project that was on there, a 457 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: research paper that I had been working on all semester, 458 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: and I remember going in her office and bawling my 459 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: eyes out. And so her office was just like that space, 460 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: right like I would get that maternal nurturing that I needed, 461 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: and not that my mom couldn't do that, but in 462 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: that realm, in that space, this woman met that need 463 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: for me. And then I remember in graduate school, I 464 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: got a new mom, another mom, and she was like 465 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: for real, for real there for me. I still talk 466 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: to her all the time, shout out, miss Jackiet and 467 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: so like she was like a maternal figure. And so 468 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: like everywhere that I've been, like, I think California is 469 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: probably the first place that I don't have like a 470 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: whether it's a coworker or someone at my you know, 471 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: like someone around who's like a maternal figure. But generally 472 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: wherever I would go, like there would be someone there 473 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: who would be who would take the place of my mom, 474 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: who wasn't physically in the same city. And so like 475 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: I think about that, and I think about friends who 476 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: are like family. Like my best friend is We've known 477 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: each other since we were nine, and so she is 478 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: one of the family, Like she knows stuff about my 479 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: family that nobody else, you know, Like she literally was 480 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: there for various things within the family, and so she 481 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: for real is like family because she was there, right, 482 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: And so like I think back to like as we 483 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: were growing up, how I would be at her house 484 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: or she would be at my house, and we just 485 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: became a part of one another's families. And so I think, 486 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, there are a multitude of ways in which 487 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: we can create family and create that chosen family. I 488 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: also think about, like as you were talking earlier, what 489 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: I also thought about was like that historical perspective of 490 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: how when we as a people were working on plantations, 491 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: and how plantation owners would split up families and you 492 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: would have children who were split up from their family 493 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: and they get to their new location and someone else 494 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: would take them in and that would become their family. 495 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: And sometimes even on the same plantation, you just had 496 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: folks that were looking out for one another and looking 497 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: out for each other's children, and so that became your 498 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: chosen family. Y'all weren't blood, but that's your family. 499 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: That's such a great example. 500 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: Dom. 501 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: It reminds me of that idea that some of us 502 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: had a chance to grow up with, or that experience 503 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: of the village mentality where you were raised by the village. 504 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: And it makes me think about my grandparents and how 505 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: probably when my grandparents were younger, and even when my 506 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: mom was younger, where the neighbors would be looking out 507 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: for you, and sometimes you get in trouble, the neighbors 508 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: would you know, you get a whooping from the neighbors 509 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: and they get parents will whoop you if you do something. 510 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: But times have changed so much. I feel like we're 511 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: very much lacking community in that sense, you know. I 512 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: think about the neighborhood that my grandmother lived in and 513 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: how at one point in time we knew everybody on 514 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: the block, and as time has gone on, I don't 515 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: know them people right like people moving and people move out, 516 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: But they've been there for what more than thirty years, 517 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: And back in the day, it's like we knew everybody, 518 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: you'd have your neighborhood meetings, and now people are just 519 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: we just live in such a different society. So community 520 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: is so important, and I think that with COVID nineteen 521 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: and the stay at home mandates, we've been aware or 522 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: reminded of that even more so, Like, yeah, I know 523 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: some of us be like, oh, I don't like people, 524 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: but boo, you know you've been missing that community. Okay, 525 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: whether it's you're one person or your two people, or 526 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: your a small group or you know, your bigger group, 527 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: we're human beings and community and touch and closeness is 528 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: so important. And so lady, we want to dive into 529 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: a few tips on how to cultivate community when you're 530 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 2: not close to your family, all right, So the first 531 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: tip here is to get clarity on why you aren't 532 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: close to them, right, like, just to understand. I think 533 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: it's really important to just know, you know, And sometimes 534 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: you can do this within yourself. You don't necessarily have 535 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: to have a conversation if that's not the best route 536 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: to go, but is it you? Sometimes it's us, right 537 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: sometimes we are the problem and it's like my family 538 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: they cool, but maybe I have attitude problem that I'm 539 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: working through. Okay, maybe I got some stuff going on 540 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: with me, And just be real with yourself so you know, right, 541 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: and we're not pointing the blame and you know, villainizing 542 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: the family because of some stuff we're not ready to 543 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: acknowledge and see within ourselves. But also you can be 544 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: honest if it is them, right, do they always every 545 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: time you come around it's like, oh, it's just negativity 546 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: and drama, right, or whatever it might be, And think about, 547 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, did something happen? Was there like an incident 548 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: right where you you know, I know there were certain 549 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: situations down in my family where someone was inappropriate with 550 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: me and I remember that from childhood, but it was 551 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: one of those things where like it just wasn't spoken about. 552 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: It happened so long ago, and so you still go 553 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: to family events and you see that person and it's 554 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: just like what do you say and do in that situation? 555 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: Right? 556 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 2: And some people you get to a point in your 557 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: in your growth where like I don't even want to 558 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: be around that. I don't know what to say, I 559 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: don't want to have the conversation I don't want to 560 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: be around that, right, So is that it which can 561 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: definitely bring up some emotions, So definitely consult with your 562 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: mental health provider if you're going to be diving into that. 563 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: And then is it simply that you just have nothing 564 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: in common with them, right? Are you just like, Yeah, 565 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: I don't have much in common with my family, right. 566 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: So that's one step that you can take to get 567 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: closer to cultivating your own community. It's getting real about 568 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: where you are right now, but the people that you're 569 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: blood related. 570 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: To, right, I mean And as you say that, like, 571 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: I think about too, Like I think about a lot 572 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: of LGBTQ folks and how oftentimes they may be pushed 573 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: out of their family, like intentionally pushed out of their family, 574 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: or they may make a choice because they don't feel safe, 575 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: so they make a choice to distance themselves from their family. 576 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: And so you know, I think about that like just real, yeah, 577 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: really being clear about why aren't you close with them? 578 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: Is it something that it's for your own safety that 579 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: you have to say we can't have this relationship because 580 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: I know in some families there may be things that 581 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: we do that we're afraid that we're going to be 582 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: judged on. So there's some shame, right, and so then 583 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: we stop going around because we are holding this shame 584 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: and we're afraid that we're going to be judged if 585 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: the family found out that we did this thing. Right. Example, 586 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: just you come from a very religious family and you 587 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: like to go out and drink and your family doesn't drink, 588 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: and you hold shame around being around your family because 589 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: you drink, or you hold shame around getting pregnant and 590 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: not being married. So just thinking about like what it is, 591 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: and then that leads us to the next tip, which 592 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: is think about why you want to be close to them. 593 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: Is it that you truly miss them and you're really 594 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: seeking connection or is it that you are missing connection 595 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: in general and it's a need that can be fulfilled 596 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: by other folks. So are you missing them for who 597 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: they uniquely are as people or are you missing just 598 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: connection period? So just being clear on why you want 599 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: to be close to them. Are you trying to maintain 600 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: an image that part? 601 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: Yes? Are you trying to maintain an image? I even 602 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: think out of obligations, just like, oh, well, I want 603 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: to be close to them, y'all because I got to 604 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: be they're my family. You don't really got to be 605 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you get to choose, 606 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: you are in choice. But don that makes me think 607 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: about you know, we've talked about this behind the scenes, 608 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: but I think about with me in this journey, craving 609 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: mother energy, but not necessarily my mother because of the 610 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: disconnect there. And like, sometimes it's the idea that you 611 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: want to be connected to, like the idea of mother, 612 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 2: the idea of mom. But if that person isn't showing 613 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: up with those ideals and those traits, then it's like 614 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: and that's probably not the healthiest, right. So that is 615 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: a really good point that you made. That takes us 616 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: to number three, which is think about your ideal family. 617 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: I think whenever we are in a space where we 618 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: are either lacking something or we're trying to manifest something, 619 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 2: you have to know what the ideal is, right, you 620 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 2: have to be open to the possibilities and so what 621 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: type of vibes and energy do you want in the family, right, 622 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: what does it look like? How does it feel? Because 623 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: the closer you get to that, then you have an 624 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: idea of what you're trying to attract, so that if 625 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: someone does come along and you're like, oh, maybe this 626 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: is one of my chosen family members. But they don't 627 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: bring about those feelings that you're trying to manifest and 628 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: the vibe, then maybe they're not a good fit. But 629 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: knowing what you want is so key. 630 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: Yes, definitely being clear on what it is that you 631 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: want as a person. And I think that what that 632 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: does is once you get that clarity, that can lead 633 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: you to possibly hopefully this next tip of healing and forgiving, 634 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: so that you're not bringing resentment or toxic energy into 635 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: those new relationships. Right. So I think about this from 636 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: the perspective of when I'm trying to forgive someone, it's 637 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: not so much that I'm wanting them to know that 638 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: I forget that I forgave them. I'm doing it for 639 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: my own healing, right so that I can let it go. 640 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: Part of that forgiveness is me acknowledging that this is 641 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: who they are, right or this was them in that 642 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: moment in time, and I can acknowledge that they are 643 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: not the person that I need, and that is okay, 644 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: they don't have to be. And when I get to 645 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: that space right of working on myself and acknowledging that 646 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: this person and maybe even this group of people are 647 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 1: not who I need, and it doesn't make them bad people. 648 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: And even if they've done some file fucked up shit, 649 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't make them bad people. And I don't have 650 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: to be in their life, and all of that is okay, 651 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: And it's helpful for me to get to that space 652 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: so that I'm not carrying that baggage into any new relationships, 653 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: right because then what happens is, let's say that I 654 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: don't have a good relationship with my mother and I'm 655 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: looking for a maternal fit. What I end up doing 656 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: if I haven't healed myself, what I end up doing 657 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: is taking all of the things that I need from 658 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: my birth mother, my blood mother, and expecting this other 659 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: person to perform those things, to give me those things 660 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: that they potentially can't. And so then I might end 661 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: up resenting this person who had no clue that they 662 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: were filling this role in my life. 663 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: Aim into that heavy on the illness and forgiveness, because 664 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: like you said, if we don't handle our stuff, we 665 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 2: end up oftentimes going and making the next person, the 666 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 2: person that's present, pay for what the absent person did, 667 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 2: and they're like, what I ain't do shit, what you're doing. 668 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: You know, I just showed up with a pot of 669 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: red beans because I figured you might be hungry. 670 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: Right, And now this traumatic experience you didn't have with 671 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: Yo Mama is now with red beans's now coming up 672 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 2: for you. And you're like, you know what I mean, 673 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: it happens, right, But lady, it's all about self awareness 674 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: and that takes us too. Number five, which is work 675 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: on communication skills. And this second part is kind of 676 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 2: for me because I feel like this is something I 677 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: used to do. Don't retreat and run off when it 678 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 2: gets bad, and set standards for your relationships. I have 679 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: people in my life today and because of how I've 680 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: worked on communication and the standards that I have. There 681 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: was a situation recently where something happened and it was 682 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: a very like off. Something happened with the communication between 683 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 2: me and someone and my chosen family, and I was 684 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: really bothered by it, and I was like, you know what, 685 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 2: My gut instinct was to be like, bucket, I'm done. 686 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just you know, run along, and I was like, 687 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: you know what I'm working on. I don't want to 688 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: be passive agressive because I don't want people to be 689 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: passive aggressive with me. I want to be communicative because 690 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't want I don't like I like closure. I 691 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 2: don't want people just running off for me and not 692 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: telling me what I did. So I was like, okay, 693 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 2: I had to meditate, get my mind right and share 694 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: with this person. You know, when you communicated with me 695 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: in this way, it made me feel XYZ is everything okay, 696 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: And so we were able to have an amazing exchange 697 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: in like heal from that versus name calling blowing it up, 698 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: which could have potentially happened with other people that are 699 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: in my family because they are not in a space 700 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 2: where they're evolving communication wise, right. So it's still possible 701 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: that you may have an issue or some type of 702 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: miscommunication with your Chosen family. But I think setting a 703 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: standard for how you communicate in general and even sharing 704 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: that with them, I think that's so key. 705 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I love that. I think that is so beautiful, 706 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: and I think that that is something that is so 707 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: important about the Chosen family. The key word in that 708 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: is choose right that you are using these people to 709 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: be in your life. You are having a say in Okay, 710 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: I vibe well with this person, let me welcome this 711 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: person into my life, into my space, and so I 712 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: think that that leads us right into our last tip, 713 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,959 Speaker 1: which is meditate and manifest your chosen family. The key 714 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: in that, though, is to recognize that it may not 715 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: look like how you want it, right, So I always 716 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: think about I don't remember exactly how the song goes, 717 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 1: but it's a gospel song and they basically are saying 718 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: that Jesus may not come when you want him, but 719 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: he'll be there right on time. 720 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: Can you sing it for us? Though? 721 00:41:53,080 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: Now you know, I know about y'all don't want but 722 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 1: y'all don't want me to sing. That's not a talent. 723 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: I was blessed with being girl, I understand. So, but 724 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: I think about that in terms of recognizing that when 725 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: we ask for things that we have to be open 726 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: to how it may present. Right. So, if I'm saying 727 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm meditating, manifesting, praying for a chosen family, or saying 728 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: I have this particular familial need that I want met, 729 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: I have to be open to receiving it however it 730 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: may show up, because oftentimes this is how the universe works, 731 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: that it'll show up. What you're asking for will show up, 732 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: but not how you were expecting and it still turns 733 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: out to be beautiful. You just have to be open 734 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: to it. Yes, yes, yes, And so lady, let's run 735 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: through these really quickly on how to cultivate community when 736 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: you're not close to your family. Number one, get clarity. 737 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: Number two identify why you want to be close to them. 738 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: Number three identify your ideal family. Number four heal and forgive. 739 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 1: Number five work on them communication skills girl, and number 740 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: six meditate and manifest your chosen family. 741 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 2: All right, lady, well, do you already know that this 742 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: is not the end of the show. Dom and I 743 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 2: are about to go hop on Patreon to because the 744 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 2: after show, so come and join us. You can visit 745 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 2: our website Herspace podcast dot com, click on Patreon and 746 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: a top tab and come and hear what we thought 747 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 2: about this episode. And we might even share some other 748 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 2: juicy tips over there, so we'll see you soon. You Hey, lady, 749 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 2: it's Terry here from cultivating her Space. Are you tired 750 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: of working hard for your money? Do you want your 751 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: business to run smoothly when you're out of office? If 752 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: you want to learn how to automate your business cash 753 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: flow and increase your impact and influence. Join me from 754 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 2: our free workshop at brandwi Terry dot com. Again, that's 755 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 2: brand with Terry dot com. My name is spelled te 756 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 2: double ri. I hope to see you there, lady. 757 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us today. Please note that our show 758 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: may contain conversations about self help, advice, self empowerment, and 759 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: mental health. What is by no means meant to be 760 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: a substitute for an ongoing formal relationship with a trained 761 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: mental health provider. If you are someone you know is 762 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: in need of mental health care, please visit a Therapy 763 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: for Black Girls directory Psychology today or contact your insurance provider. 764 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: If you liked what you heard and want to keep 765 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 2: the conversation going, visit our website cultivatingherspace dot com and 766 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 2: be sure to click the Patreon tab to get access 767 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: to video content, bonuses, and our weekly after show. And 768 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: before we meet again, repeat after me, I'm aligned with 769 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 2: my inevitable outcome. 770 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week, lady,