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Speaker 2: we go, another cornacopia of sports news, sports topics, another banger,

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Speaker 2: and yes, we're gonna get to Belichick. We're gonna get

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Speaker 2: our divisional round NFL playoff matchups. Great. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: series of games on tap this weekend. But the most

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Speaker 2: talked about story all week and it continues to be

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Speaker 2: today and I will continue to be abouly is the

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Speaker 2: fact that Jerry Jones is keeping Mike McCarthy sort of

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Speaker 2: reminds me of a story where gentleman was walking on

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Speaker 2: down the beach along the sand and he comes across

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Speaker 2: the genie pops out only it's not a genie, it's

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Speaker 2: God himself, and he says, you are lucky, my young man.

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Speaker 2: You get one wish, only one wish, But anything you

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Speaker 2: want I can grant. He says, Well, you know, I'd

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Speaker 2: always like to go to Hawaii, but I'm so afraid

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Speaker 2: to fly. Could you please build me a highway that

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Speaker 2: will stretch from California to Hawaii so I can drive there.

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Speaker 2: God ponders for a minute. It goes, my goodness, that's

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Speaker 2: going to be a tough one. I don't know. Man, Wow,

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Speaker 2: is there anything else, anything else I could do for you?

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Speaker 2: He says, well, there is one thing, goes, what's that? Well?

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Speaker 2: Could you help me to please understand what makes Jerry

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Speaker 2: Jones tick, why he does the things he does. God

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Speaker 2: scratches his head for a second, says, you want that

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Speaker 2: highway in two lanes or four lanes. Jerry Jones obviously,

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Speaker 2: apparently not only wants to still win at eighty one

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Speaker 2: years old and prove the world he's wrong everybody else

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Speaker 2: is wrong, but he apparently wants to win only under

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Speaker 2: his own terms. Oh I get it, Oh I get it.

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Speaker 2: How many times do I have to hear the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: made the playoffs three straight seasons. Hadn't even done that

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Speaker 2: in their Super Bowl running the mid nineties. McCarthy, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: became the first coaching team history to post three consecutive

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Speaker 2: twelve win seasons. Of course, some of that is due

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Speaker 2: to playing a seventeen game schedule, But don't confuse me

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Speaker 2: with facts. My minds are made up. And oh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, yeah, I know, I get it. I heard you.

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Speaker 2: But McCarthy, while he was the play caller in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, the Cowboys finished number one at Pointsberg game

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Speaker 2: at twenty nine point nine, number five in yards of

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Speaker 2: three seventy two. YadA, YadA ya signed. But ultimately what

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Speaker 2: happened again in the postseason, you know, it culminates in

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Speaker 2: a forty eight thirty two embarrassment against Green Bay. So

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Speaker 2: was there ever any consideration in making a change. Well,

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Speaker 2: if it was, it was certainly kept pretty quiet. Here's

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Speaker 2: my issue with this whole thing. What exactly is going

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Speaker 2: to be different last year next year? Remember last year

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Speaker 2: when Jerry said, or McCarthy said, we're going to clean

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Speaker 2: up all the penalties. Now now they're sloppy this year. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Coming into the season, McCarthy said, were really gonna improve

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Speaker 2: our run game. No, didn't happen, did it? Never quite happened.

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Speaker 2: Dallas wasn't a terrible running team. They were middle of

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Speaker 2: the pack, averaging about four yards of carry about one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten yards a game. But that was a

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Speaker 2: step back from the previous two years. Now, Tony Pollard

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Speaker 2: did have a thousand yard season, but he rarely looked

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Speaker 2: when he shared the workload with Ezekiel Elliott. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: did I mention that Tony Pollard is about to become

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Speaker 2: an unrestricted free agent? I doubt the Cowboys are going

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Speaker 2: So how exactly, mister McCarthy, does the run game improve,

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Speaker 2: Like you said, it's going to maybe maybe in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Dallas maybe uses one of its top three picks as

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Speaker 2: a running back. But I digress. What's going to all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden magically make Dak Prescott better in big

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Speaker 2: games next year? By the way, he would probably benefit

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Speaker 2: how many times have you heard me say it? Over

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Speaker 2: the last three years? You got a turnover prone quarterback

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Speaker 2: I figured out, maybe that's a bridge too far. Players

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Speaker 2: he does everything but winning the postseason, that's all. But

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott here's another issue. Final year of a four year,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty million dollar contract. His cap hit

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Speaker 2: with him? If you're the Cowboys? He's going to be

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys quarterback in twenty twenty four. But before the

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Speaker 2: Packers debacle, everybody had figured they would just keep him

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Speaker 2: among the highest players in the league. But this guy,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many times you have to see it,

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Speaker 2: I get it. Excellent in the regular season, led the

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Speaker 2: was for a time I think among the favorites to

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Speaker 2: McCarthy calling plays, we said it all along. Call me

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Speaker 2: when the preseason starts. Okay, he had issues getting seed

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Speaker 2: lamb the ball. This was very much on display against

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Speaker 2: out memories of the regular season when they got smoked

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Speaker 2: at San fran and Buffalo. Now here's another issue. Exactly

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Speaker 2: what is doctor McCarthy you're gonna do to solve the

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Speaker 2: You know we're good at home, but not so good

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Speaker 2: on the road. Next year, all that poor play during

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Speaker 2: the regular season was away from EIGHTE and T Stadium.

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Speaker 2: I could give you all the numbers on the road

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Speaker 2: what the hell happened? This game was at home Sunday

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys proved, Hey, we don't just have to stink

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Speaker 2: on the road, We can stink at home. The struggles

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Speaker 2: at home alarming. Whatever you were worried about for the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys in the regular season heading into the postseason came

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Speaker 2: roaring home and living color. Now, the Cowboys did have

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Speaker 2: four road wins this year, but they came against the

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Speaker 2: teams who finished in the bottom seven in the league.

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Speaker 2: As far as record, Cowboys never seemed to have any

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Speaker 2: answers for why they played so poorly on the road.

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Speaker 2: Can that truly continue into twenty twenty four and we're

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Speaker 2: sold as bill of goods if you're a Cowboys fan

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Speaker 2: that Mike McCarthy's going to fix this. Here's another issue

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Speaker 2: pressures on the Cowboys. They're going to have to draft

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Speaker 2: well at April. They can't swing and miss it all

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Speaker 2: this year. Now, if I'm being fair, the Cowboys have

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Speaker 2: been one of the league's better drafting teams since Will

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Speaker 2: But this most recent twenty twenty three class gave them

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Speaker 2: virtually nothing. Their first round pick Mazzie Smith out of Michigan,

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Speaker 2: They didn't even come close to living up to what

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Speaker 2: to Marvey and Overshown. He looked promising in training camp,

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Speaker 2: end of the preseason. So last year's draft was not good.

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Speaker 2: That has to very much be ratcheted up otherwise. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how changes. I just don't defensive improvements. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is also a big uncertainty at the moment because

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Speaker 2: the question is who will be calling their defense. Dan

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Speaker 2: Quinn has five opportunities not saying he's gonna get hired,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not mixed up. After that defensive debacle against

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Speaker 2: I don't know, do we really want this guy. I

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Speaker 2: realized he was a head coach in Atlanta, and I

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Speaker 2: realized he got to a super Bowl. You know what

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Speaker 2: happened there. And I realized he's highly respected around the league.

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Speaker 2: And I realized he's highly liked. But do I hitch

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Speaker 2: him on just one game. It's like the old joke

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Speaker 2: about George Clooney last week and rumors he was walking

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Speaker 2: his career, that doesn't disavow all his successes. So I

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Speaker 2: believe Dallas will hope that dan Quinn returns. If he's

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Speaker 2: back for another season, then perhaps the Cowboys can can

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Speaker 2: ract you know, can get the production on their defense inee.

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Speaker 2: But if he's not, there's another huge question mark. It's

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Speaker 2: unlikely somebody in the house would be next in line.

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Speaker 2: It would probably go to a coach with previous NFL

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Speaker 2: head coaching experience. But whoever gets the job, the two

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Speaker 2: biggest things that need to be addressed are the run

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Speaker 2: defense and how do they really best utilize Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 2: He was a contender for Defensive Player of the Year,

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Speaker 2: but as this season war on, he frankly became less

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Speaker 2: and less impactful, and this started to become a concerning

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Speaker 2: trend among Dallas and siders. So maybe it means moving

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Speaker 2: Parsons off the ball, whatever fewer raps earlier in the year.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's got to figure out a lot of things. Because

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Speaker 2: I am not convinced in any way Dallas is in

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Speaker 2: their best position to win next season with Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: at the helm, not in the postseason. And I get

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Speaker 2: that things are taken into consideration. I saw this a lot.

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Speaker 2: My tenures are the Lions. If you let a coach go,

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Speaker 2: you ask yourself would someone else hire him? Believe it

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Speaker 2: or not. I think McCarthy would have opportunities elsewhere. He

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Speaker 2: has a good reputation around the league as this solid

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Speaker 2: But come on, man, really, I wouldn't hire him. I

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Speaker 2: don't dislike the guy, but let's just come on. Let

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Speaker 2: me count the ways, and don't make me count the ways.

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Speaker 2: Then you ask yourself before you fire your coach, well,

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Speaker 2: would you have to would you would you want to

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Speaker 2: have to play against him next year? Well? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't think i'd be afraid about playing against McCarthy. And

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Speaker 2: then you say to yourself, if you replace him, who's

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Speaker 2: your replacement. Well, the rumor was Belichick. I never once

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Speaker 2: believed Bell Pelichick was going to be the Cowboys coach.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted it out, give it less than ten percent.

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Speaker 2: Turns out to be moot. But even if Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: that Bill Belichick and Jerry Jones would have ever been

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Speaker 2: a match. So there you have it, the most talked

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Speaker 2: Cowboys are keeping Mike McCarthy. We may touch on that

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Speaker 2: in the midnight hour, but I also want to touch

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Speaker 2: very much on the situation with the NFL peacock that

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Speaker 2: made people pay for that playoff game. And I will

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Speaker 2: tell you, folks, none too happy about it, especially after

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Speaker 2: the NFL took a victory lap and talked about how

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Speaker 2: well they did. Coming up, we break down the divisional playoffs,

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Speaker 2: All right back at the Bernie Frattleshield Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: a fan favorite. You've heard him on my show many

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Speaker 2: I would consider to be a very enlightened thinker. Say

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Speaker 2: hello to Gambling Lou, Loof and Akarra Lou. How are you, buddy, Bernie.

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Speaker 5: I'm tickled happy to be on the program tonight. I

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Speaker 2: Nicely done. You're always game ready, Lou. There's just no

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, thank you about My thoughts were simply the

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Speaker 2: It really is as simple as that. You break it

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Speaker 5: Old fashioned slobber knocker and that I think that you

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Detroit, a team I covered for a decade.

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Speaker 2: The lines are laying a pretty sizeable number. I believe

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Speaker 2: Let's jump to the USC where you're not only an expert.

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Speaker 2: Emotionally Blue as always, I wish we had more time.

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Speaker 2: Let's get you on sooner rather than later. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: Good luck this weekend, Lou, thanks so.

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Speaker 5: Much for having me on and enjoy your listeners. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. It's gambling, Lou, Loof and Acaro. Again, I wish

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Speaker 8: All right, Bernie, We'll start with the NBA from Friday

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Speaker 8: night and the Lakers blowing a twelve point lead and

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Speaker 8: Thirty six points for Joel Embiid as the seventy six

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Speaker 8: Peers in a named him the full time head coach.

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Speaker 8: And in college basketball, you had victories for Colorado State

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Speaker 8: seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: Back to Bernie Friddo.

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Speaker 2: And keep those dualit tones warmed up top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: in our midnight hour along with callers eight seven, seven

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Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox. I want to dive into this

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Speaker 2: peacock and the NFL's being streaming bet payoff. They took

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Speaker 2: a real victory lap. And I tell you Mark Ramsey

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Speaker 2: pointed out to me earlier in the week, He's right,

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Speaker 2: there was a real firestorm over this. And of course

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Speaker 2: we'll also hear from the folks. Did Dallas do the

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Speaker 2: right thing in keeping Mike McCarthy all right? The wild

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Speaker 2: card round is behind us, and it was basically around

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Speaker 2: the blowouts, and interestingly enough, in the divisional round we

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Speaker 2: have three matchups and then we checked that we have

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Speaker 2: three rematches and then we have packers forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: on Saturday night. So there's some tidbits as you are,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you want to press your friends at

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Speaker 2: the bar, this is the third time since nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 2: Then I referenced nineteen seventy eight because that's when the

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Speaker 2: wild card format began. That we've actually had two teams

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Speaker 2: that were one hundred to one or greater to get

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. It happened twenty twenty two and

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Speaker 2: back in nineteen eighty seven as well. But the Texans

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Speaker 2: are the first team since the nineteen eighty one New

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Speaker 2: York Giants to be listed with two hundred dollars to

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Speaker 2: one odds are hired to win the Super Bowl back

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Speaker 2: in the preseason and still advance to the divisional round,

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Speaker 2: and of course Houston would last to first keeping that

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Speaker 2: what twenty in the last twenty two years. One of

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Speaker 2: the one of the great debates is is there ever

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Speaker 2: a rest advantage in the playoffs, because both the Lions

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Speaker 2: and the Chiefs will they entered their divisional round games

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Speaker 2: with a bit of a rest advantage without having a

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Speaker 2: bye week, and this would be the fifty seventh and

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Speaker 2: fifty eighth playoff games in the past twenty years where

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Speaker 2: both teams aren't off a bye week but one team

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Speaker 2: has a rest advantage. Here's what to note. The home

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Speaker 2: team in this situation. They're twenty four and nine straight up,

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Speaker 2: nineteen and fourteen against the spread. Now it may not

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Speaker 2: sound like much, but the Chiefs do have a two

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Speaker 2: day rest advantage over the Bills. The only other occurrence

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Speaker 2: was twenty two to twenty three when the Niners on

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Speaker 2: eight days beat the Cowboys on six days nineteen to

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Speaker 2: twelve when they were laying three and a half points,

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Speaker 2: So every little bit helps. At this time of the year.

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Speaker 2: Now a lot of the world will be having their

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Speaker 2: eyes on Lamar Jackson, who had a sensational season, but

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Speaker 2: historically just the facts man. Historically, Lamar Jackson his struggle

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Speaker 2: struggled as a favorite both in the playoffs and at home.

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Speaker 2: Is where he finds himself this week, laying nine nine

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Speaker 2: and a half points depending on where your shop. Lamar

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Speaker 2: one and three in the playoffs, one and three straight

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Speaker 2: up and against the spread. Fifteen and twenty three against

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Speaker 2: the spread overall, is a home favorite one in six

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Speaker 2: as a favorite against the number with twelve or more

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Speaker 2: days rest. Now, I am actually not sure these are

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Speaker 2: real statistics which have been you know, formulated and accumulated

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Speaker 2: over the years. I don't know that it correlates this week.

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Speaker 2: I cannot. As much as I respect with C. J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud and Amico Ryans have done, I can't take the

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Speaker 2: nine points and I'm not laying them either, but I

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Speaker 2: can't take them. They went out right as a home

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Speaker 2: underdog last week and they're going on the road. I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about the Houston Texans, and that to me correlates

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Speaker 2: more so than you know, how Lamar Jackson has historically done.

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Speaker 2: Whose Baltimore team looks scary and I just give top

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Speaker 2: credit to what Houston has done, but just something to

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on if that rears its head again.

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Speaker 2: And what Lamar Jackson has been home favorites in the

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Speaker 2: divisional round twenty eight and ten straight up, fifteen and

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Speaker 2: twenty three against the number of over two hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty quarterbacks who started in a divisional game over the

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Speaker 2: last twenty years. Believe it or not, I know this

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Speaker 2: doesn't sound good, not Hayton. Lamar Jackson's only ranked two

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen when it comes to covering the spread

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Speaker 2: as a favorite. And again you heard this a minute ago.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson only one and six against the spread on

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Speaker 2: twelve days rest. So buyer beware now the words favorite

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Speaker 2: and playoff well, maybe they've been a death no for

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, who struggled as a favorite during the postseason

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Speaker 2: and in Baltimore. So again, if you are do I

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Speaker 2: think this is a different Lamar Jackson and a different

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Speaker 2: Baltimore team? I absolutely do. I absolutely do. Look, this

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Speaker 2: weekend's going to be a referendum on greatness. There's greatness

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Speaker 2: there in Baltimore. There's greatness of Lamar Jackson. Can they

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Speaker 2: get over the hump? Meanwhile, and we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about this later in the show. Can Kansas City make

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Speaker 2: it six in a row? What do I mean by that?

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Speaker 2: Because Patrick Mahomes will be doing something Sunday he's never

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Speaker 2: done in his entire NFL career play a playoff game

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Speaker 2: on the road in front of a hostile crowd. I'm

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Speaker 2: not talking about the Super Bowl. This is on the

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Speaker 2: road during the playoffs. Mahomes, He's made fifteen career starts

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Speaker 2: in the postseason in his six seasons as the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: primary starter. None of them have come on the road.

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Speaker 2: So the Chiefs prevail in Buffalo this weekend, it'll be

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Speaker 2: six in a row, meaning the sixth season in a

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Speaker 2: row where the Chiefs will have made it to the

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Speaker 2: AFC Conference Championship. Speaking of the Chiefs, if you watch

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Speaker 2: their game last weekend, well you did so via peacock

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Speaker 2: and you had to pay for it. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: that in just a second here and break it down

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Speaker 2: because people were none too happy by the way tonight.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, our podcast will be going up.

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Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and you'll see this show posted right

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Speaker 2: after we get off the air. I'm Bernie Fradderwick County

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Speaker 2: ninety nine On Fox tonight's topic, the peacock situation, the

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Speaker 2: NFL's big streaming bet Chiefs Dolphins actually set a US

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Speaker 2: viewership record. Hold that thought. I want to remind everybody

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Speaker 2: to Countdown to Kickoff, presented my betmg right here in

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. By the way,

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Speaker 2: as a secondary topic, you can weigh in on Mike

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Speaker 2: McCarthy too. Are you surprised Jerry brought him back? Was

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Speaker 2: it perfectly predictable? Do you agree what's going to be different?

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Speaker 2: You get the drill. So this is the topic. And

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Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey pointed out to me midweek, if you peruse

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Speaker 2: the interwebs, there was a real fight. The Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Miami wild Card game last Saturday was available only on Peacock.

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Speaker 2: That man viewers could watch the NFL game, the playoff game,

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Speaker 2: only if they downloaded and paid for this streaming app. Now, look,

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Speaker 2: I kind of we talked about this little bit last

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Speaker 2: week with the crew, and we're going to bring the

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Speaker 2: crew back in. My stance was, well, you know, this

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Speaker 2: is the way of the world right now. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to get too excited. Why I think I might

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Speaker 2: have been in the minority. I have to reopen my

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Speaker 2: mind on this and listen to the other side because

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Speaker 2: it it got even worse when it turns out that

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Speaker 2: this little this little bet that the NFL made on

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Speaker 2: itself succeeded, had set a record for US streaming viewership.

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Speaker 2: And I think what ticked people off to boot was

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Speaker 2: the NFL took a Victory Lap when the Chiefs beat

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins in a very nondescript game. The game set

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Speaker 2: a record for the most streamed US event, averaging twenty

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Speaker 2: three million views according to Comcast. That is not a

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Speaker 2: small number. Until until last Saturday, the NFL had yet

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Speaker 2: to ever test out placing any major game, much less

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Speaker 2: a playoff game exclusively on a streaming platform. Now, maybe

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Speaker 2: fans wanted to see Taylor Swift haha, okay, whatever, or

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Speaker 2: maybe they're just big Chiefs fans and they wanted to

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Speaker 2: see the Chiefs beat the Dolphins. Whatever. Either way, you

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Speaker 2: still had to download the NBC Universal streaming app that's

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Speaker 2: called Peacock and pay a six dollars subscription fee to

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Speaker 2: tune into that game. It was not broadcast on TV,

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Speaker 2: regular network TV, cable TV, even Amazon Prime, No, no TV.

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Speaker 2: It was an app now Peacock and the NFL apparently

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Speaker 2: they decided to do this last year. They planned it

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Speaker 2: last year because well, you know, NBC Universal paid They

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Speaker 2: bet on themselves. They paid the NFL one hundred and

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Speaker 2: ten million dollars to hold for the rights to hold

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Speaker 2: a streaming only playoff game. The NFL said, what the

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Speaker 2: hell will take the money, well, twenty three million time

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Speaker 2: six By my math, he's one hundred and thirty eight million.

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Speaker 2: So not only was an experiment at work that looked

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Speaker 2: like twenty eight million to the good Actually, I'm if

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Speaker 2: you look at the stats that the game actually hit

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Speaker 2: a total of twenty seven point six million total viewers,

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Speaker 2: that's according to Nielsen. So Peacock made a bet. They

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Speaker 2: ran it up the flagpole. It was a test balloon

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Speaker 2: and Peacock, frankly, if you if you pay attention to

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Speaker 2: the streaming wars as it were, Peacock's kind of been

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Speaker 2: an underdog, right, you know, people know who they are,

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Speaker 2: but what's been their notoriety before that? It was a

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Speaker 2: huge win for the NFL. It was also a huge

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Speaker 2: win for Peacock because it was their largest single day

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Speaker 2: in audience usage, largest single day engagement, largest single day

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Speaker 2: time spent watching sixteen million concurrent devices according to NBC Universal.

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Speaker 2: These are not small numbers. My god, and this is

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Speaker 2: coming out of the gate. Now, maybe they did it

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Speaker 2: on purpose because the playoffs are a little bit different

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Speaker 2: animal the NFL playoffs are, you know, and of course

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Speaker 2: people like to throw a wager, right, you know why

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Speaker 2: enhances are viewing. Participation feeds their competitive spirit and it

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Speaker 2: it makes people pay attention to stay around longer. So

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Speaker 2: Peacock went on to say, quote, we couldn't be proud

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Speaker 2: of our partnership or the NFL. Excuse me. They went

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Speaker 2: on to say, we couldn't be proud of our partnership

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Speaker 2: with Peacock, and we're thrilled with the results of the

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Speaker 2: first ever exclusively live stream NFL playoff game. Those are

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Speaker 2: the words of one mister Roger Goodell. Quote to best

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Speaker 2: serve our fans, what how is that best serving the fans?

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Speaker 2: Let me finish this quote. Quote to best serve our fans,

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Speaker 2: we need to ensure games are available to them as

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Speaker 2: they're viewing. Habits change, and this includes digital distribution as

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Speaker 2: we continue to help shape the future of sports in

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Speaker 2: the entertainment industry. But there's a big butt here, pee wee.

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Speaker 2: Fans are very upset. That sounds odd to me. To

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Speaker 2: best serve our fans, we're going to charge you six

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Speaker 2: dollars to acquire an app you may not know we

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Speaker 2: already have. And I think people are just incensed based

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Speaker 2: on again, I might not have been smart enough last

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Speaker 2: Saturday night to really ascertain how Paw folks felt. It's

647
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Speaker 2: not that I was flipping down the issue. It was

648
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Speaker 2: more just, well, you know, this is the way the world,

649
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Speaker 2: This is the way things are now. Two years ago,

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Speaker 2: you know, Amazon was new. Now they're setting records and YadA,

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Speaker 2: YadA YadA. You have to pay for more, you have

652
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Speaker 2: to pay for content on you. You get my drift.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go down the hole litany. But

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Speaker 2: apparently in my rationale, it's a cup of coffee, right,

655
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Speaker 2: six bucks of Starbucks. No, but people didn't necessarily agree.

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Speaker 2: And I want to hear from those folks, or I

657
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Speaker 2: want to hear from the folks who thought it was

658
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Speaker 2: no big deal. Eight seven seven, nine to nine on

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Speaker 2: Fox Midnight Hour, I phone lines are going to stay

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Speaker 2: open eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.

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00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: Dial them up, Shay and Ian will take your call,

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Speaker 2: and we'll also get the crew involved too, because this

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Speaker 2: is what I would consider to be a democratic ordeal.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear how everybody feels about this. Some

665
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: people might not care, some people are just really pissed off,

666
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Speaker 2: and I there are a lot more people that are

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Speaker 2: angry about it than I would have thought and take

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Speaker 2: the time to explain why it's Maybe it's just a

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Speaker 2: personal affront to your common senses. You know, the NFL

670
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Speaker 2: is on its way to being a twenty five billion

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Speaker 2: dollar industry. That's what Roger Goodell wants, and that one

672
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Speaker 2: hundred and ten million was part of that. That's one one,

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Speaker 2: A one B is Mike McCarthy. We knew Jerry would

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Speaker 2: make a decision by Thursday. He wasn't going to linger

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Speaker 2: too long. In some senses, I'm not surprised. I guess

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Speaker 2: that's how Jerry rolls. He stayed with Jason Garrett forever.

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Speaker 2: He likes to be in control. He not only wants

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Speaker 2: to win, but he wants to win on his term.

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Speaker 2: So hate seven, seven, nine, nine, six, six, three sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Peacock, Chiefs, Dolphins, and did Jerry do

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Speaker 2: the right thing by keeping Mike McCarthy. If you're a

682
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Speaker 2: Cowboys fan, are you happy? Are you angry? Or is

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Speaker 2: it just Jerry being Jerry. We'll do all that during

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour. Keep it locked. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour.

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Speaker 9: Time's right now, the midnight hour.

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Speaker 2: Callers have been great since we started this. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: keep it. The phone lines will remain open the entire hour.

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Speaker 2: So if you don't get in right away, keep trying, Shaney,

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Speaker 2: we'll take your call. I want to get to all

699
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Speaker 2: of you. No one gets left out. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: get let's get it started. We are talking about peacock chiefs,

701
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Speaker 2: peacock chiefs and dolphins, as well as the Mike McCarthy situation.

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Speaker 2: We go to John from Tampe John, get it started tonight.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 7: Hey, Good morning, Bernie, plaid pleasure being on.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I completely disagree with that. At first, well I

706
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Speaker 10: do because I can't see paying something that we're already

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Speaker 10: paying for. Because of course, you know the networks pay

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Speaker 10: the NFL in order to retain the rights to broadcast

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Speaker 10: the games, right, and so the in turn, in order

710
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Speaker 10: for the networks to get their money back, pay pay

711
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 10: pay for pay, you know, they have to charge for commercials.

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Speaker 10: And of course the yearly, every year, every year, every

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Speaker 10: year they go up and up and up and sort

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Speaker 10: of hope for them to recoup that money. It's passed

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Speaker 10: time of the consumers like me, whether it's you buy

716
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 10: your beer, the chips, your cars, you know, whatever it

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Speaker 10: may be.

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Speaker 7: So when you come right down to it, they're not

719
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Speaker 7: only making the six dollars per person or per subscriber,

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Speaker 7: they're also making money for the commercials that they're you know,

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Speaker 7: that they're selling to the advertisers. So I think that's

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Speaker 7: just I mean, I think it's just completely silly that

723
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Speaker 7: the state they do. But that's, like you said before,

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Speaker 7: that is that's the day and age that we live in.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks a lot, John, and John points out

726
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: there are multiple buckets for which the NFL to make profits.

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00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: Where this caught all of our eyes is this was

728
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Speaker 2: a playoff game. This is something new. Kevin in Minneapolis,

729
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Speaker 2: what are your thoughts in the matter.

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Speaker 11: Oh Man, you caught me or I'm with my dogs.

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Speaker 2: No problem, no problem. Your dogs can weigh in as well.

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Speaker 12: Oh I know they.

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Speaker 3: Hear that.

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Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this, Uh shay? I you want to put

736
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Speaker 2: Kevin back on hold and he can gather his flock.

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Speaker 2: We'll come back to him in a minute. Want to

738
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Speaker 2: do that, let's do let's let's do that, because we'll

739
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Speaker 2: get you on, Kevin. Everybody's getting on Andrew from Bakersfield,

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Speaker 2: you're up next.

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Speaker 13: Hey, okay, here's what bothered me. Okay, I pay for

742
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Speaker 13: who I pay for Hulu, so it's nine to ninety

743
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Speaker 13: nine I think for a base subscription. So then you

744
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 13: have to pay for live TV, which is like seventy

745
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Speaker 13: five bucks or something. Then you have to pay for

746
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Speaker 13: a sports package, which is I don't know, ten bucks,

747
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 13: so you're paid eighty however much money. And so I

748
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Speaker 13: expected to get the game because we get every game

749
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Speaker 13: of any sport, and yet we didn't get the Peacock game.

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Speaker 13: And anyways, so that's what bothered me.

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Speaker 2: You know, okay, I appreciate it. You're you're not wrong, Andrew,

752
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Speaker 2: and I can tell you I pay about one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty a month for my cable service. I also

754
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: get the red zone every year. I used to get

755
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: the Sunday ticket. I didn't like the way they rolled

756
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: out this year, but I passed. So as a consumer,

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00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: most folks I would say, it's not inconceivable couple hundred

758
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Speaker 2: bucks a year and when the playoffs come around that

759
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: those to me should be a little sacred. But this

760
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: year the NFL crossed the line a bit because they

761
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: decided not only were they going to use a different

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Speaker 2: modality NFL on Peacock, which Peacock paid one hundred and

763
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Speaker 2: ten million dollars for for the rights to do this,

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Speaker 2: but they were going to pass that along to the

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Speaker 2: consumer charge of six bucks. Mike and Houston, you have

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Speaker 2: thoughts on this matter.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Bernie and the crew. But you're talking to

768
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Speaker 14: a crazy old man whose grandfather, blue collar shelf paid

769
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Speaker 14: man way back in the seventies watching his favorite player,

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Speaker 14: George brand Blanda. He predicted this. He predicted this way

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Speaker 14: back in the day, and all the sports are doing it, Baseball,

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Speaker 14: Apple TV. I can't watch my astros. You know, I

773
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Speaker 14: don't subscribe to the Apple So if the bad part

774
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Speaker 14: is generations from now, it's all gonna be all the games,

775
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 14: but all the sports. I predicted they're all going to

776
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Speaker 14: be like this, and the future generations they're not going

777
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Speaker 14: to know any better. Bernie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have a situation where this was

779
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 2: a test balloon and then they took a the NFL

780
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: took a victory lap because it works so well. So

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Speaker 2: I got to believe this only encourages more of this

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely absolutely, and and all are going to start doing

784
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Speaker 14: it because because why because we're going to continue to

785
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Speaker 14: pay for it. Those who had the means, we're going

786
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Speaker 14: to be able to pay for it. And you know,

787
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 14: and some some people are just gonna get priced out.

788
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Speaker 14: They're gonna get they're gonna get bent out of shape,

789
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 14: and they're just gonna stop watching. And somebody else in

790
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 14: your life work. So that's the only way that's going

791
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 14: to stop. The consumer has to push back to be

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Speaker 14: in Bernie, I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Mike. Yeah, And it's it's always the old axiom.

794
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Speaker 2: The consumer can speak with their pocketbooks. Stop subscribing, stop

795
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Speaker 2: showing up to games. I heard people in Dallas talking

796
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 2: about that this week. If you're not happy about McCarthy

797
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: returning and stop going to games, the problem is we're

798
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Speaker 2: all slappies. I mean, I can't. I'm not going to stop.

799
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Speaker 2: I remember when I covered the baseball strike that canceled

800
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Speaker 2: the World Series in ninety four. That was my breakthrough

801
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: in radio. And you know, I would talk to people

802
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Speaker 2: I'll never go to a game next year. Well people did,

803
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: and I was one of them. I said, you know, well,

804
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Speaker 2: who am I really hurting?

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Speaker 15: Right?

806
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Speaker 2: So it's a real conundrum. Matt in California, you're up next.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the matter.

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Speaker 16: Hi, Bernie, thanks, you love your show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I just want to say that, you.

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Speaker 17: Know what, I think, it's like the first step of

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Speaker 17: becoming baseball. You know, It's it's like as a consumer,

813
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Speaker 17: I feel that I'm unemployed right now, and the six

814
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 17: dollars I could probably afford. But then to find out

815
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 17: where I thought it's gonna be on TV, then it's new.

816
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Speaker 17: Then I have a lot of stress trying to figure

817
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 17: out how to actually download it, and then it's basically

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Speaker 17: I think they've lost the average person in that a

819
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 17: lot of these well to do people are constantly doing

820
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 17: power plays so they just power play people and then

821
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Speaker 17: basically push things on us. And at a certain point

822
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Speaker 17: we've had enough. And at that point, I mean, I

823
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Speaker 17: love football and I still watch you know, I follow

824
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Speaker 17: your show. I listened to the radio, but I mean,

825
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 17: if I can't find it on TV, I'll just listen

826
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Speaker 17: to it on radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, All right, appreciate your thoughts. I think

828
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Speaker 2: we have a situation now where as you said, they're

829
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Speaker 2: going to get away with what they can and they

830
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Speaker 2: keep pushing the envelope. I don't know if there's any

831
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Speaker 2: end insight because again, the NFL made this decision. It

832
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: took the money from Peacock. Peacock took a you know

833
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: what I would consider to be a gamble. How would

834
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: they know. They they pulled up one hundred and ten

835
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Speaker 2: million and it worked, and then the NFL took a

836
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: bit of a victory lap. And I think that's what

837
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Speaker 2: pissed people off. Let's try Kevin in Minneapolis, and Kevin,

838
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Speaker 2: you're still with the dogs? Can you talk?

839
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Speaker 18: No?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, No, all right, let's hear you.

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Speaker 14: Well.

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Speaker 19: No, I just wanted to agree on the on the

843
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Speaker 19: the bs that they made people, you know, pay for it.

844
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Speaker 19: And unfortunately I was one of the ones that folded,

845
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Speaker 19: and my wife and I really wanted to watch the game.

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Speaker 11: And we did it, and it was pixelated.

847
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Speaker 19: It was darker than anything you can imagine. It didn't

848
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 19: fit the screen it was. It was so disappointing that

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Speaker 19: I can't believe they call it a victory.

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Speaker 2: Lab Well they call it. Yeah, well it's seem to

851
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: note full disclosure. If it if it would have been say,

852
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: the Lions, and the first of all, again thanks for

853
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: your call, Kevin. If it had been the Lions, and

854
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Speaker 2: you know, and in the rams, I would have I

855
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: would have spent the six bucks. I would have had to.

856
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Speaker 2: You all know my background. I would have had to

857
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: and I would have done it. I wasn't particularly enthralled

858
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: with the game. It was gonna be freezing cold. I

859
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: thought it was a mismatch for Miami right on down

860
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: the line, so I listened to it on the radio.

861
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't because of the six bucks, it was it

862
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: just but along the along the way the victory lap occurred.

863
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: And I appreciate your insights on on the quality of

864
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: the broadcast, but the victory lap was merely that twenty

865
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: three million people signed up for it, so irrespective of

866
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: whether or not people thought it was not a good

867
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: idea or they were pushing the envelope too far, twenty

868
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: three million people signed up for it. Eight seven, seven, nine, nine,

869
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: six sixty three sixty nine. Your thoughts on the peacock

870
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: the NFL charge for the Chiefs Dolphins game, And haven't

871
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: heard anything on Mike McCarthy yet, but I'm sure we

872
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 2: will go to Robert in Michigan. Robert, what are your thoughts?

873
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 7: You know what?

874
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 11: I apologize, sir?

875
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 2: What was your name is Bernie?

876
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 7: Bernie?

877
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 6: Yeah?

878
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: Did we lose Robert? Either we've lost Robert or we

879
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: He's doing one hell of a Marcel Marceau in impression,

880
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: So shay Ian if if he calls back, we'll take him.

881
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: But at the meantime, I want to hear from the

882
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: crew on this as well. Kevin, we touched on this

883
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: a bit last week, but it was before we had

884
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: the results in. Now that a week has gone by

885
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: and you've had a chance to digestics further, what are

886
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this whole subject.

887
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 8: I mean, my opinion hasn't changed too much because it's

888
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 8: I mean, we can you know, kick and scream and complain,

889
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 8: and I think rightfully so, because you're being spread so

890
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 8: thin nowadays. And you know, we were talking about being

891
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 8: the cord cutting generation and people signing up for one

892
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 8: or two apps, and what you're finding is you're having

893
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 8: to sign up for six and seven, eight of these

894
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 8: to get the totality of what you're looking for. So

895
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, why did I cut

896
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 8: the courts to begin with? Might as well just kept

897
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 8: I had two hundred dollars a month for cable to

898
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 8: begin with. But and I thought one of the callers

899
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 8: brought up a good point though, this is where sports

900
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 8: are going, you know, in general. You know, Peacock has

901
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 8: a deal with the Big Ten. They had a couple

902
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 8: of Big Ten games this past year, and a couple

903
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 8: of even Notre Dame games that were Peacock exclusives. Basketball games,

904
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 8: college basketball games are exclusive. It wouldn't surprise me that

905
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 8: if some point CBS has games that are exclusive on

906
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 8: Paramount Plus because they know there is an inkling or

907
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 8: I should say, they're in interest for it and people

908
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 8: are going to go out of the way to find it.

909
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 8: There's going to be some people who are going to

910
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 8: be fed up who says I'm tired of this, I

911
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 8: can't afford it, or even if I can't or I

912
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 8: can't afford it, you know, it's the principle of it.

913
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna go and chase after these games, and

914
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 8: that's fine. I think the NFL is willing, unfortunately, to

915
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 8: sacrifice the few viewers who would say that, because they

916
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 8: know the great majority of people want their NFL, especially

917
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 8: if it's a playoff game, and by hell or high water,

918
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 8: they're going to find a way to be able to

919
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 8: watch it. So I don't necessarily like it. And I

920
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 8: think you alluded to this last week, Bernie, that you know,

921
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 8: it's not out of the realm a possibility that within

922
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 8: the next ten fifteen years they might have the Super

923
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 8: Bowl available on pay per view only in a similar

924
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 8: situation like this, I can certainly see it. Yes, these

925
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 8: leagues are making handover fist in their television contracts, but

926
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 8: if they can squeeze out five more sinse out of

927
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 8: the viewing audience, and they know that the people are

928
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 8: going to pay to watch it, you know, unfortunately, why

929
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 8: wouldn't they do it?

930
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: Because they know people.

931
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 8: Are going to pay and that it's like I said

932
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 8: it sucks for the consumer.

933
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: I certainly feel it.

934
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 8: Like I said, I was already a subscriber to peacocks,

935
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 8: so what did not affect me. But I certainly understand

936
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 8: the frustration for someone to say, you know, I have

937
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 8: to download this app and where do I find it?

938
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 8: How does it work? Do why do I have to

939
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 8: pay extra money in all of this? So I certainly

940
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 8: understand the gripe, But I also just understand this is

941
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 8: kind of where you know, sports you know in twenty

942
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 8: twenty four and beyond, are going and it's not going

943
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 8: away anytime soon. People have used baseball as an example

944
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 8: with Apple TV plus know that's crept in the NBA

945
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 8: when their TV deal is up. There's a lot of

946
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 8: speculation that Amazon's going to get in on that too,

947
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 8: which means you have to sign up for Prime. So

948
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 8: that that's just how the sports landscape is, unfortunately going,

949
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 8: and if you're not interested or not able to pay, unfortunately,

950
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 8: you're likely going to be left in the dust.

951
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: You get the sense, Kevin, this is another extension of

952
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: the consumer just getting squeezed. Period. We all know that

953
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: grocery prices are up, gas prices or up prices are

954
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: up everywhere. This is one more situation and people are

955
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: most people have some sort of cable or some sort

956
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 2: of extra premium channel, and this is one more charge.

957
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: Where does it all in. It's a situation where I

958
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: think as Americans, you hear it and you see it,

959
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: people feel squeezed. Is this just simply an extension.

960
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 8: Of that thousand percent one thousand percent people? And this

961
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 8: isn't even like an inflation, you know, a situation, This

962
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 8: is just you know, sports leagues. No one understand that

963
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 8: TV ratings over the last decade have steeply declined, but

964
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 8: in the one aspect, the ones situation where it hasn't

965
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 8: is live sports. It's the only live event where you

966
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 8: have to watch it, you know. But few people are

967
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 8: dvring games and going back and watching them unless you're

968
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 8: a diehard fan for some reason. If you don't see

969
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 8: it live, you've missed something. And now with social media

970
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 8: being wrapped up into it, it's a different ballgame. So

971
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 8: if you are the NFL and you know people want

972
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 8: to see Miami and Kansas City as it's happening and

973
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 8: don't want to see a replay, you can charge three bucks,

974
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 8: seven bucks, seventy Bucks. There's going to be a certain

975
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 8: percentage of the audience who are going to pay whatever

976
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 8: is necessary because they want to make sure they see

977
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 8: that game while it's happening, so they can scroll on

978
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 8: Instagram and Twitter or x at the same time and

979
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 8: get their live reaction. The sports leagues know that, and

980
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 8: that's why they feel comfortable in doing this, and not

981
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 8: only feel comfortable doing it, but as you mentioned, pounding

982
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 8: their chest and saying, look at all these subscribers, we

983
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 8: got to sign up and watch this game.

984
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: Good stuff, good stuff, Kevin. We are going to continue

985
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 2: on this topic, very popular topic, very thought provoking topic.

986
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: David Poppy, Alberto read, Aaron, Chris, hang tight, We're gonna

987
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: get to Alia and before the hours up. I certainly

988
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: want to hear from Shay Yen in Mark as well.

989
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle. We are coming to your life from

990
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tyrock dot Com Studios. Keep

991
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: it locked right here. You listen to the Bernie Frattle

992
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right back on the

993
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. We dive right back

994
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 2: in Chiefs Dolphins on Peacock. Your thoughts, David from Kansas

995
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 2: you're up next. What do you have to say about

996
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: this whole thing?

997
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 16: Hi, Bernie, Hello David from Kansas. I just want to

998
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 16: preface a couple of things. I've got three quick points

999
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 16: to make. Number One, I was born in nineteen forty three.

1000
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 16: Number two, I exclusively listened to the radio, and I'm

1001
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 16: a free market capitalist. If you don't like what you're

1002
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 16: gonna have to watch and pay for, don't watch it now.

1003
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 16: One way, that's one way to look at it. The

1004
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 16: other way to look at it is something that Kevin

1005
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 16: hit on earlier is that we all paid for this

1006
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 16: product that's offered by the networks, Peacock being a part

1007
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 16: of NBC, we all pay for this one way or another.

1008
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 16: We paid for it through.

1009
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 14: The cost of.

1010
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 16: You know, the products that we buy on the shelves

1011
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 16: that are advertised. For example, back in the forties and

1012
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 16: the fifties, I went out to the barn with my

1013
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 16: grandfather and we listened to the Loan Ranger, and the

1014
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 16: Loan Ranger was sponsored by Cheerios. Now you know that

1015
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 16: the price of Cheerios supported that program. So the price

1016
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 16: went up for Cheerios a little bit, but she got

1017
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 16: the Loan Ranger the other person that I would like

1018
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 16: to quote, and I hope maybe you've heard of him.

1019
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 16: And this was the late great Herman Caine. Herman Cain

1020
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 16: was president. Yes, yes, and he had I loved his

1021
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 16: program and I loved the man. He was a remarked capitalist.

1022
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: Believe he founded Godfather's Pizza. That was that wasn't as

1023
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: a baby.

1024
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 16: He reorganized it. He was a change artist. They brought him,

1025
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 16: they brought him in the fix it, then.

1026
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: He fixed it.

1027
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 16: That's how that's how it worked. But his favorite statement

1028
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 16: was Grandma, get out of the way of the wagon,

1029
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 16: get on the wagon, or get out of the way.

1030
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, appreciate you checking in to night, David.

1031
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: And we are in a capitalist of society. I think

1032
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: what struck most people that they felt this was sacred.

1033
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: It's an NFL playoff game for crying out loud. When

1034
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: he used to getting in for free. Imagine if you

1035
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: were getting on a bridge and you're driving across the

1036
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: bridge and all of a sudden, you get to a

1037
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: toll at the end and they're not charging you to

1038
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: get on the bridge. Now they're charging you to get

1039
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: off the bridge, and it feels like dirty pool. But

1040
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: all points valid tonight. Want to hear them all. Poppy

1041
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: from San Diego, how you doing, Poppy, Let's hear what

1042
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: you got to say.

1043
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 11: Hey, good Bernie, thanks for having me on. Yeah, you

1044
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 11: know what.

1045
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 12: I don't pay no single stand or watch that. I

1046
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 12: watched the game.

1047
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 11: I watched it an illegal website from Russia. I would

1048
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 11: watch the pay per views for free. And that's how

1049
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 11: you guys can watch it. And then then you guys

1050
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 11: can watch it.

1051
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 12: You guys can go with friends. You guys can go

1052
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 12: to like support your local community, small businesses, and you

1053
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 12: can gather up and watch it on TV. Guys, And

1054
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 12: that's how you can watch it for free or tell

1055
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 12: your friends if they have it, and.

1056
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 11: You guys can just get freeloaded. I'll bring some food

1057
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 11: or something. And another thing I wanted to talk Bernie

1058
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 11: is uh. I wanted to talk about Jim Harbo. I

1059
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 11: know you, I know you, said Mike McCarthy, But you

1060
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 11: guys are gonna hear it you only you guys only

1061
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,959
Speaker 11: gonna hear right here with Bernie, have some freaking news.

1062
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 12: I live in San Diego, guys, and I know someone

1063
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 12: inside resources. I can't say no names. They know that

1064
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 12: they know Dance Panels and Jim Harbor is gonna go

1065
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 12: with the Los Angeles Chargers. They're just waiting for the

1066
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 12: right time to release that news. He's gonna go with

1067
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 12: the Chargers, Bernie, so inside information right here, you're Henna

1068
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 12: here first, Jim Harbor is gonna go with the Los

1069
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 12: Angeles Chargers.

1070
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: Guys, all right, Poppy, thanks for checking in as all

1071
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: we and I will tell you my moules are saying

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00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: pretty much the same thing. I can never give it

1073
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, of course, and maybe will get into

1074
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: it later in the show, but I know that's the

1075
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: gig Jim Harbaugh wants and they want him. So it's

1076
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: a matter of striking a deal. And I'm trying not

1077
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: to give too many updates because it starts to get convoluted.

1078
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: But I don't think you're far up. We'll see, well,

1079
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: we'll see. I just can never give it one hundred

1080
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: percent because you're dealing with an unknown quantity. Here, Eberto

1081
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: from California, you're up next. What are your thoughts will

1082
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: be any two?

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00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 18: Excellent me Clint, and listen. I've been listening to you

1084
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 18: for over a year now, and you have a great show. Okay,

1085
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 18: thank you that first, and Tappy went in first. But

1086
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 18: I'm sorry for Harbor because the Chargers of the Chargers

1087
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 18: and doesn't many who gets there, they're not gonna win.

1088
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:58,959
Speaker 18: But that's another topic. Listen about this thing with what's

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00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 18: his name with the Peacock. I wanted to know how

1090
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 18: many subscribers had they had before the game last week?

1091
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: I think question, how did we probably google that?

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 18: Okay, well, the thing is this, I doubted that even

1093
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 18: a million people, but the game over the weekend I

1094
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 18: doubted very much.

1095
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: Million though three million was the number reported by the NFL.

1096
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: Twenty seven million by Peacock.

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01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 18: Yeah, but that's viewers.

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01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: That's okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

1099
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 18: So the number that I wouldn't pay for that I

1100
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 18: would never pay for one game. Now that's what they

1101
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 18: want to go in the future. So the real number

1102
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 18: is how many people forked out six dollars for that

1103
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 18: game alone that were not Peacock subscribers before that. That

1104
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 18: would be the number for me anyway. And uh, but

1105
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 18: that's what the way it's going. It's gonna happen. But

1106
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 18: we as consumers do have the power to choose. Okay,

1107
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 18: you're gonna put on streaming. I pick my games if

1108
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 18: you're gonna go that way. Fair Enough is given the

1109
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 18: game for free because they've given it to Amazon Prime,

1110
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 18: uh prescribers, So they're really not getting more subscribers than

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01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 18: what they had before.

1112
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 14: I doubt it.

1113
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 18: But anyway, I understand that it's a money grabh but

1114
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 18: that's the way. That's the way the world is going

1115
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 18: on right now. And thank you very much, Bernie.

1116
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 14: You have a great show.

1117
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks appreciate that. And I would say this. I

1118
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 2: one of the subtexts I think Heberto brought up was

1119
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: maybe if it's a situation, like I said earlier, if

1120
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: it had been the Lions the Lions Rams game, I

1121
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: probably would have done it. But because it wasn't a

1122
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: game that I didn't find compelling, I didn't do it.

1123
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: But we're going to continue on with this, Red Aaron

1124
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: Chris Hank Tight, you're gonna get to all you don't

1125
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: go anywhere. But first let's get back to our guy,

1126
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: Kevin Figures with the latest.

1127
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 8: All right, Bernie, we'll talk some NBA from Friday night

1128
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 8: and the late games saw the Nets come back from

1129
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 8: twelve down to beat the Lakers fairly easily in Los Angeles.

1130
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 8: One thirty to one twelve was the final score. LA

1131
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 8: did lead by as many as twelve in the first

1132
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 8: half in that when Cam Thomas did lead the Nets

1133
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 8: with thirty three points off of the bench, Suns had

1134
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 8: a thirty point lead in the first half. Ended up

1135
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 8: with a one twenty three to one oh nine win

1136
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 8: in New Orleans as Devin Booker scored fifty two points,

1137
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 8: thirty four points, twelve rebounds nine dimes for Nicola Jokic

1138
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 8: as the Nuggets went into Boston and picked up a

1139
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 8: one oh two to one hundred victory that snaps the Celtics'

1140
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 8: twenty game home win streak to start the season. Wins

1141
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 8: for Portland, Charlotte, and Philadelphia, who got thirty six points

1142
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 8: from Joel Embiid, and a victory over Orlando. In college basketball,

1143
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 8: eleventh rank Wisconsin improved to six to one and Big

1144
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 8: Ten play with a ninety one to seventy nine victory

1145
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 8: over Indiana. And college football news, Caleb Downs, the leading

1146
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 8: tackler and star freshman safety for Alabama this past season.

1147
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 8: We'll transfer to Ohio State. In baseball news, the Astro

1148
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 8: sign closer Josh hater. It's way five year, ninety five

1149
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 8: million dollar contract. Back to Bernie Fretto.

1150
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Kevin. Back on to the phone lines,

1151
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: read from California. Thanks for hanging on you. Rep next buddy, Yep,

1152
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: go ahead, Red, you're up.

1153
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 20: Hey, how's it going? So just three points on this

1154
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 20: whole peacocking. First thing, I didn't intentionally watched it. I

1155
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 20: was at a restaurant in Elazon and that's the reason

1156
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 20: I watched. I would have to pay to watch it,

1157
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 20: like you, just because it was an interesting game. Second

1158
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 20: thing is I've had NFL plus I didn't care for it.

1159
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 20: It was very glitchy and very limited on which you

1160
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 20: can even watch. So the way things are going, my opinion,

1161
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 20: my thoughts, and you can be quoted and you know,

1162
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 20: credit me later for it, but I think what they

1163
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 20: should do, since this is the way it's going, is

1164
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 20: create a different counts student service where you can just

1165
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 20: string your your team. Being in California and being a

1166
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 20: Raider fan, I'm very limited on some of the games

1167
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 20: out there I'm not starting to show. If they created

1168
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 20: a streaming service for just your team, that's something I'd

1169
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 20: be willing to pay for, all.

1170
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: Right, good points read believe it or not, the NFL

1171
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: Sunday ticket. That's how it's distributed in foreign countries. You

1172
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: can do select games, you can do select teams, and

1173
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: they make it more flexible as you try to grow

1174
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: the game abroad, and you wonder perhaps if they adopt that,

1175
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: so you know, had read you might be a little

1176
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: head of the curve there. Back out to the phones,

1177
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: Aaron from Kansas City. Aaron, now your thoughts on this matter?

1178
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 6: Hey, Bernie, thanks for having me on.

1179
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 21: So you know, I kind of fight with the whole

1180
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 21: argument of well we got it free. You know, in

1181
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 21: the past, this and that you don't technically get for free.

1182
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 21: You're still paying monthly to see it. You just don't

1183
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 21: see it broken down like that when you pay for

1184
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 21: your cable or your satellite, dish, whatever they pay ABC, NBC,

1185
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 21: all your.

1186
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 6: Other little networks out of that. You know, you said

1187
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 6: your bill was one hundred and sixty dollars.

1188
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 21: Five might be going to NBC, five might be going

1189
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 21: to CBS, whatever the case may be.

1190
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 6: So you're you're still paying for it, but it's just

1191
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 6: you're able to stream it anywhere where when it coast

1192
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 6: to the networks it's tied to your location. So where

1193
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 6: here in the Midwest, we might see the Chiefs game,

1194
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 6: you know, at noon, where you're on the East coast,

1195
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 6: and you're going to see a different game because of

1196
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 6: your location. That Peacock can I give you the ability

1197
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 6: to watch that specific game from coast to coast. And

1198
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 6: again you're still paying just about the same, you know,

1199
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 6: again six bucks a month, if you break your bill down,

1200
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 6: that's probably what you're paying you know, NBC or you

1201
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 6: know the sub area of Peacock anyways out of your bill.

1202
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 6: So I don't know, I already have Peacock. We kind

1203
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 6: of went streaming about a year ago when we do nothing.

1204
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 21: But Hulu streaming and stuff like that, and just say

1205
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 21: for our internet and we can watch pretty much.

1206
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: Whatever we want.

1207
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 6: So a little biased there.

1208
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: But nonetheless I thank you.

1209
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 21: I think it's just broke down differently, and yeople don't

1210
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 21: maybe see it or realize that because it's not actually

1211
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 21: shown in their bill being broke down like that.

1212
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: Fair enough, no thanks, And I think to some degree

1213
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: we're aware of that. It's just there's something about the

1214
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,959
Speaker 2: dynamic and the way it's fleshed out, and and maybe

1215
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: this is the way of the future where you get

1216
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: your basic package, but there's going to be uh you

1217
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: know again, you give these guys an inch or take

1218
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: them out just the way it is. We're all we're

1219
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 2: all going along for the ride. We don't want to

1220
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: be left out. There's full moll is very real, especially

1221
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 2: when it comes to the NFL. Chris and Fairfield, you're

1222
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: up next. What are your thoughts?

1223
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 22: Yeah, so Hi, I've been in Bartender for a while.

1224
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 22: I run a lot of sports bars and recently I

1225
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 22: worked for someone who is the owner of the Chiefs

1226
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 22: Fan and we didn't have Peacock on our bar stream,

1227
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 22: so he called it up and you know, for six bucks,

1228
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 22: boom the Chiefs games on. Now, one of our streams

1229
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 22: was fuzzy and a little dark, but we still popped

1230
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 22: it up for six dollars. Now, back in the past,

1231
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 22: when I ran a night nightclub sports bar, we would

1232
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 22: try to get events in. The cable company would charge

1233
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 22: me for the amount of per capita that was allowed

1234
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 22: into my building, so the bill to get astronomical, and

1235
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 22: then you actually had to get it installed. There was

1236
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 22: no way I could actually get an event in thirty seconds,

1237
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 22: which is what we were able to do at the

1238
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 22: bar tonight or in the night of the Chiefs game.

1239
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 22: I kind of agree with the colors just called. I

1240
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 22: mean you we have the ability to pick and choose.

1241
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 22: My cable is a lot cheaper now than it ever

1242
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 22: was in the past. I'm a forty five year old

1243
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 22: man who has been watching sports and religiously has to

1244
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 22: have cables so I can see my giants, and you know,

1245
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 22: I have my cable bill is well. And I didn't

1246
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 22: pay for this because I was at my restaurant. Someone

1247
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 22: else did. And most bars now are actually able to

1248
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 22: show these things.

1249
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 6: So support your local bars. Go to the bars.

1250
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 22: You don't want to pay for the guarantee they're showing

1251
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 22: it because they don't have to pay a thousand dollars

1252
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 22: for it. Now it's only six bucks, all.

1253
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: Right, Appreciate you checking in. And I guess the theme

1254
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: tonight is where there's a will, there's a way if

1255
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: you want to do it, don't do it, don't do

1256
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: it or you know, a lot of folks feel like,

1257
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 2: wait a minute. You know, you keep moving the needle

1258
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: and you know how much is enough. But the truth

1259
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 2: of the matter is, I think everybody who is taking

1260
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: the time to call in, and I appreciate it. We

1261
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: have a vested interest. You care. I mean, the opposite

1262
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: of love is not hate, its indifference. People might hate this,

1263
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: but they care. And so the NFL's got us right there.

1264
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 2: You're invested somehow. Someway Lynn from Orange County. You're up next, Hey, Bernie,

1265
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: love you man.

1266
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 14: You sure make my night.

1267
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 6: I'm your grocery driver out here.

1268
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 23: Everson Vonn's all right, sir, boys when you come on,

1269
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 23: I'm very excited.

1270
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 2: Appreciate that.

1271
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 23: Hey, listen, Bernie, NFL stands for two things. For the

1272
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 23: public that can't afford it. It stands for no funds

1273
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 23: you lose, and for the NFL. And the commissioner stands

1274
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 23: for no funds lost.

1275
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: He's not gonna lose, no funds lost.

1276
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 23: So look, Bernie, it goes two ways. Once you've got

1277
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 23: to realize it's a business at the end of the day.

1278
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 23: So I learned not to take it personal because they

1279
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 23: got to make money. Because I can ask my for

1280
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 23: a raise all day long. Fortunately I'm in the union

1281
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 23: on the contract. But he's gonna look at me and say, hey, look,

1282
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 23: but go deliver my ice cream. And then at the

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01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 23: end of the day. I still need to make a profit,

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01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 23: so I can't get mad at companies that want to

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Speaker 23: make money in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: There's no difference.

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01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: That's very true. Thanks for checking. I appreciate that. And

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01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: it's been Roger Goodell's stated goal for years that he

1289
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 2: wants to make the NFL a twenty five billion dollar industry,

1290
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: and he's well over half the way there. Kira from Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: you're up next on this matter.

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Speaker 24: Hi, I thank you for taking me call. The reason

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01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 24: I have two points, and your one caller kind of

1294
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 24: took the wingdown of my sales by saying that the

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01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 24: small businesses are going to make a great deal more

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01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 24: than what they could before they couldn't really afford to

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01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 24: do put the games up on the screens. So it

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01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 24: is a good way to support you local businesses, is

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01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 24: you know, if they see people carr coming in and

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 24: have interested to watch the shows that a streamed and

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01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 24: may can afford to do so because it's only five

1302
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 24: or six dollars rather than a couple hundred, it makes

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01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 24: a huge.

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01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 20: Difference for them.

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,520
Speaker 24: So it is beneficial for our small businesses. But then secondly,

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01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 24: I don't agree with it.

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01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 25: Only because Roger Goodell stood at.

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01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 24: A press conference which I've been frantically looking up online

1309
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 24: and can't find when the skipp or something from the

1310
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 24: four letter ESPN when he suggested that they do a

1311
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 24: pay per view Super Bowl, Roger Biddell stood up and

1312
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 24: had a press conference that said, absolutely not, we will

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Speaker 24: never charge you to watch the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that? I don't. I don't believe it.

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01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 24: And no, no, he already has that. You already went

1316
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 24: back on his word. This was a couple of years

1317
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 24: ago when he stood up in front of you know,

1318
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 24: all these reporters and told him we will never charge

1319
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 24: you to watch the NFL. So I just thought it

1320
01:11:59,400 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 24: was kind of funny.

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01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: I hear you. I hear you, and I appreciate your thoughts.

1322
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 2: Thanks for checking in tonight. And obviously years ago, Goodell

1323
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 2: was on record in terms of the NFL will never

1324
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 2: have anything to do with gambling. And we all know

1325
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 2: now that the great growth of the NFL is, you know,

1326
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: buying large a product of legal life sports betting and

1327
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 2: even illegal sports betting, which which still exists. In two

1328
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: thousand and four, the Las Vegas Convincers visitors of a

1329
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: Convention Bureau wanted to buy advertising for the Super Bowl

1330
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: and I was doing a show in Detroit and the

1331
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: NFL said no, Well, look at how things change. And

1332
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is, it's how we are

1333
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: as a society. I mean, can you I know there

1334
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: are folks who are listening to the show that can

1335
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: remember there used to be smoking sections on airplanes that

1336
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: went away. The first airline to cancel that. People said

1337
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: they'd go out of business. Well not so much. Can

1338
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 2: you imagine smoking on airplanes? And you've heard me often joke, Hey,

1339
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: we used to fight wars with a single shot rifle,

1340
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: So listen. Maybe the question is not whether or not

1341
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: the NFL their experiment worked. The question is where do

1342
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: we go from here? And I have a good broad

1343
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: range of opinions tonight. Really appreciate the calls. I do

1344
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: want to hear from the crew. I want to hear

1345
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: from Shay, I want to hear from Mark, I want

1346
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: to hear from Ian, And we'll do that coming up next.

1347
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 2: We will keep the phone lines open. By the way,

1348
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: shortly after the show, the podcast will be going up.

1349
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 2: If you missed any of tonight's show, be sure to

1350
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 2: check out the podcast just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1351
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts, be sure to follow, rate and

1352
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: review the podcast again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1353
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. You'll see this show posted right

1354
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 2: after we get off the air. My Bernie Fraddle work

1355
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: comes to your life from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

1356
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 2: Radio TIREC dot Com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening

1357
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

1358
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: We continue on with the Bernie Fraddle Show, diving even

1359
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: deeper into the NFL on Peacock reacting to the Chief

1360
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: Dolphins game last weekend. Daniel from Indiana, You're up next.

1361
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: What have you got to say about this?

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01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 26: Good morning, Bernie. I want to take this in an

1363
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 26: entirely different direction as like what Peacock offers, you know,

1364
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 26: staying like, Okay, that shoes span, that Dolphins fan that

1365
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 26: just put down the six ninety nine to buy Peacock

1366
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 26: to watch the game, Well, they're gonna look at other

1367
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,879
Speaker 26: options and they're going to realize, Hey, my favorite NDC

1368
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 26: show is on Peacock. I can watch that anytime.

1369
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 14: Or I'm a my Mike and I.

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01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 26: Are fans of on Patrol Live and we can watch

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01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 26: that more better yet with the sports fan upcoming the

1372
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 26: royal rumble WrestleMania.

1373
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: True that.

1374
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 26: You know, you know, you just seem to get just

1375
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 26: the NFL game, You're getting a lot more with Peacock.

1376
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair that that's a fair point, and when

1377
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: we haven't really dwelled on but but yeah, yeah, you're

1378
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: this was not just a one off. Uh, but it

1379
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: was a situation where you now become a Peacock customer.

1380
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: Maybe that's their goal in the first place. All right,

1381
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: appreciate your thoughts that. Daniel Amy from Ohio, you're up

1382
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: next your thoughts on this matter?

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 25: Hi, Ernie, how you doing this? Evening? My problem is,

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01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 25: you know, the whole season starting on Sunday, the first

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01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 25: weekend of the year, are I have direct TV and

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01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 25: our local distributor was in a seued with DirecTV, so

1387
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 25: we had blackouts. So that lasted three weeks. So I

1388
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 25: had to sign up for the Peacock. It came back on.

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01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 25: I canceled Peacock. So then come the last month and

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01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 25: a half of the season where they're fighting with whoever

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01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:55,879
Speaker 25: distributed CBS. So I didn't sign up for Paramount because

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01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 25: I had the red thumb. So you know I was

1393
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 25: signed with that, but I'm a Packers fan, so you know,

1394
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 25: the last season gave in the season is when you're in,

1395
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 25: so that I'm paying for Paramount. So then after all that,

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01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 25: then I have to turn around to watch the playoffs

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01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 25: and pay for Peacock again. So it's like I'm already

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01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 25: paying DirecTV for these channels and then I'm turning around

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Speaker 25: to paying for their streaming services.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough. Appreciate you checking into that. And you're not

1401
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 2: wrong about the disputes between the local modalities and the carriers.

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01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: We had a situation here with our local CBS channel

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: where they were in dispute with direct TV last year.

1404
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: We couldn't even get the local news, so you're not wrong.

1405
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 2: So I think it just speaks further to the fact

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01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: they're kind of holding us hostage a little bit. Now.

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: Everybody deals with it in their own way, and we

1408
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 2: all have our own rationale, but it's something that we

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01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: have to react to. It's not an elective thing. Let's

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01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: get to the crew. Ian. I want to hear your

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01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 2: thoughts on this situation.

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01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 1: Hey, Bernie, my thoughts.

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Speaker 15: I mean, so I have Peacock, so I wasn't personally

1414
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 15: overly bothered by it, But it's I am a little

1415
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 15: bothered by the fact that they did it for a

1416
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 15: playoff game, right like it could have been a regular

1417
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 15: season game like one that isn't you know, necessary for

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01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 15: all true die hard NFL fans to be watching.

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01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: And that's what they did.

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 15: Is this was a game that you know, if you

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01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 15: really are a die hard NFL fan, this is an

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01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,480
Speaker 15: important game for you to watch.

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01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 2: High profile game. But by the way, I haven't asked

1424
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 2: this question, will we forewarned that during this playoff season,

1425
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 2: during what you know what Super Wildcard weekend, that one

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01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 2: of the games was going to be Peacock Only. I

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01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 2: did not know about this until the week of.

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01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 15: I personally didn't know about it either, and that might

1429
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 15: just be me not being informed enough on it, but

1430
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 15: but yeah, it was news to me, and I feel

1431
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 15: like if you and I are just learning about it,

1432
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 15: then you know, the vast majority of fans probably didn't

1433
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 15: know about it ahead of time.

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Speaker 2: So very interesting thoughts. I appreciate everybody who took the

1435
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 2: time to call, and I think everybody was really sort

1436
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: of fair and objective, But the reality of it is

1437
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 2: this feels like again a situation that was forced upon us,

1438
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: and I think that's what gets people out of the

1439
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 2: comfort zone. It's perfectly understandable. Shaye. Did you you have

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Speaker 2: some thoughts on the shape.

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Speaker 27: Yeah. So, so the NFL actually did announce it that

1442
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 27: Peacock was going to.

1443
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 2: Keep doing this game in the beginning of season.

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01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 14: Okay.

1445
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 27: I didn't really have an issue with it either. I

1446
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 27: think it would have been if they were going to

1447
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 27: do it, I would rather have them be doing. Like

1448
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 27: I'm looking at this as a business point of view,

1449
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 27: it would make more sense if they were to do

1450
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 27: a playoff game than it to be a normal regular

1451
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 27: season game, because you're kind of just singling out those

1452
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 27: two markets, and this is something that the NFL is

1453
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 27: kind of advertising, like, hey, you can make this much money,

1454
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 27: you can get this much viewership, and a playoff game

1455
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 27: is where you're getting the most viewership. So it wouldn't

1456
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 27: really make sense to do those games that the random

1457
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 27: game that's really not getting a bit. You're going you're

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01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 27: just restricted to those really two small market sizes. I

1459
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 27: mean they're not small market sizes. Any market that is

1460
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 27: in the NFL is going to be a big market,

1461
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 27: but it's it's not the max potential market that you

1462
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 27: can get. And on top of it, it's why would

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01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 27: you isolate it. It's like those those two teams will

1464
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 27: feel so isolated, like why are they doing it to us?

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01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 27: Like why do these other teams not have to pay?

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01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 27: And we have to pay? With the playoffs, it's kind

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01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 27: of like everyone has to pay, you know what I mean.

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01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 27: Obviously the fans of the teams kind of got screwed over,

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01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 27: but everyone wanted to watch that game. Don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 27: you know what I mean, It's not just the fans

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Speaker 27: that got screwed over, So I think that's kind of

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Speaker 27: why they did it.

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Speaker 2: Excellent points. Why would you bury it in the middle

1474
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: of a regular season game? And the other thing too,

1475
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: is by doing it at a playoff game, it makes sense

1476
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: because it's the only game on at that time. If

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01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 2: you don't want to watch it, don't watch it. If

1478
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 2: you want to watch it, you don't want to pay

1479
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: for it, go to a bar, or if you're willing

1480
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 2: to pay for it. But when your reality is and

1481
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: one of like the other call says, you might be

1482
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: paying six bucks, but you're getting the rest of the

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01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: other Peacock product offerings as well. So I guess it's

1484
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: a situation and where Look, everybody has thoughts on this,

1485
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 2: and because it's so new, some of these observations I

1486
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 2: didn't really stop to think of. And like I said,

1487
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 2: for me, it was no big deal. But when I

1488
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: started to hear the people, they made a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive into this weekend's playoff games coming up next.

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1491
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Speaker 2: another successful midnight hour. Really appreciated the thoughts, the varying points,

1499
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Speaker 2: and what I would consider to be an intelligent discussion.

1500
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: Good job to Ian and Jay managing through all that.

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01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 7: Well.

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01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: Fortunately, well we're what we're about twelve and a half

1503
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 2: hours from the playoffs resume. We are now in the

1504
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: Divisional round and fortunately in none of the games this

1505
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 2: weekend are on Peacock exclusively, so back to normal as

1506
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: it were, and we'll see, we'll see what the future holds.

1507
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: But the Texans and the Ravens will kick it off

1508
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: at one thirty Pacific four to thirty Eastern Baltimore Land

1509
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 2: nine and a half, and this is an interesting matchup

1510
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 2: between two franchises who will break a streak one the Ravens,

1511
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: well Lamar Jackson. He is owed two in the divisional

1512
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 2: round and he's only throwing one touchdown passing three interceptions

1513
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: in his career in the divisional round, but that's the past.

1514
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: He'll have a chance to make a new future. The

1515
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: Texans as a franchise, they are actually owned four in

1516
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 2: the divisional round, losing by an average of two touchdowns

1517
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 2: per game. The Texans have never advanced to the AFC Championship,

1518
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,440
Speaker 2: so they have their chance with C. J. Stroud and

1519
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: what certainly Demigo Ryans has done this year nothing short

1520
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 2: of beyond sensational. So look the Ravens. They're more than

1521
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 2: a touchdown favorite. They own a thirteen and seven record

1522
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 2: against the spread and playoff games in the last sixteen years,

1523
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: which is the start of John Harbaughs coaching. Kenyer Ravens

1524
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: won five and one in their last six games against

1525
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: teams is winning records this season. Their only loss was

1526
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: Week eighteen against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Baltimore did sit their starters.

1527
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 2: This is a game I feel like Baltimore makes a

1528
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,879
Speaker 2: statement I mentioned at the top of the show. Playoff

1529
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 2: teams who played in the wild card round as a

1530
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: home dog and went out right and go on the

1531
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 2: road the following week don't cover about seventy six percent

1532
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: of the time, So I can't take the points with

1533
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 2: the Texans. But I think the Texans will fight. But

1534
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 2: it still feels to me like i'd say, I don't know.

1535
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: I'll call it a thirty one to twenty type game,

1536
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: thirty four to twenty type game, just the way I

1537
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: see it. Saturday Night, eight fifteen Eastern five point fifteen

1538
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 2: Pacific Packers, who look sensational last week they visit the

1539
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers. Believe it or not, this is an

1540
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 2: NFL record, meaning that this will be the tenth time

1541
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,799
Speaker 2: these two teams have met in the playoffs. The Niners

1542
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 2: and Packers been pretty even. San Francisco holds a five

1543
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 2: to four edge. What's more, the Niners have won six

1544
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 2: straight NFC Divisional Round playoff games. That is the longest

1545
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: active streak in the NFL. Now, the Packers are tied

1546
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 2: with the Patriots in terms of the winningest team in

1547
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 2: postseason history. They have thirty seven wins, and it actually

1548
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: be the all time winning his team in the postseason

1549
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: if they won, well, I think that's going to be

1550
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 2: a bit of a tall task.

1551
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 21: Now.

1552
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 2: I love what Jordan Love did last week, and the

1553
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 2: Packers do have a bunch of first rounders on defense.

1554
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: There's just no two ways about it. I have a

1555
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 2: feeling this is going to be a game where there

1556
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 2: are a lot of penalties. I hate to say that,

1557
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: but you got a referee. Alex Kemp's regular season crew

1558
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 2: led the NFL with an average of almost sixteen flags

1559
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 2: a game, and not only that, the Packers and forty

1560
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: nine Ers both finished in the top third of the

1561
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: National Football League for most flags this season. Forty nine

1562
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 2: Ers had one hundred and twenty five, the Packers right

1563
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,839
Speaker 2: behind him one twenty four. I feel like the Niners

1564
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 2: get the win, they get the cover, but I don't

1565
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: know if it'll be a blot. It could be, but

1566
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: it feels like a thirty one twenty one touch game.

1567
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to wait and see. Look, the

1568
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 2: bottom line is, Jordan Love has been just incredible. He's

1569
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 2: stolen twenty one touchdown passes to only one interception in

1570
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: his past nine games. The Packers are seven to two

1571
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 2: in those games. I'm sure the Packers would dearly love

1572
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: to get to the NFC Championship game. Let's face it,

1573
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 2: Jordan Love has already done with neither Brett Favre nor

1574
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers did his first season, and that was get

1575
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. We flipped to Sunday noon Pacific, three

1576
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 2: o'clock Eastern. Well, the Lions fresh off winning their first

1577
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 2: playoff game since January fifth, nineteen ninety two. Now they're

1578
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: going to host their first NFC Divisional Round appearance. Well,

1579
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: that was since the nineteen ninety one playoffs. They had

1580
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 2: to buy that year. That was that nineteen ninety two

1581
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: they had to buy in the first round. Then they

1582
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 2: beat the Cowboys and then they had to go on

1583
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 2: the road to play the Redskins for the NFC Championship

1584
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 2: game and got smoked. Now these two teams played earlier

1585
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 2: in the year. They played in Tampa Bay and the

1586
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 2: Lions beat the Bucks twenty to six. Baker Mayfield and

1587
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: golfed You're a golf both seem to have very much

1588
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 2: revitalized their careers. They're both former number one picks. One

1589
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: of them is going to advance to the NFC Championship Game.

1590
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'm slightly concerned if you're a

1591
01:25:55,640 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 2: Lions fan. I am concerned in terms of how the

1592
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: fact that I think the Buccaneers are a little underrated,

1593
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: and I also believe that Todd Bowle should be getting

1594
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: a hell of a lot more credit that he's been

1595
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 2: getting this year with what he's done with a new

1596
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,480
Speaker 2: quarterback and a lot of teams. People left that franchise

1597
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: for dead. They're gonna have to find a way to

1598
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 2: solve Aiden Hutchinson. The Bucks are but the Bucks defense

1599
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: is better than people realize. And they blitz on over

1600
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 2: forty percent of their dropbacks. That's the highest, one of

1601
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: the highest rates in the NFL, and I would suspicion

1602
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: they would dial that up more against Golf and a

1603
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: gap blitz, a double a gap blitz, and when blitzed

1604
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: I'm a big golf fan, but he's had seven turnovers

1605
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: this year, tie for second most of the NFL. When

1606
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: he is in fact blitzed all right, both teams on

1607
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 2: the air twelve and six against the number. It's I

1608
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: think it's gonna depend on which team gets a lead.

1609
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: The Bucks, I don't think, are built to comfort behind.

1610
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 2: When the Lions, they jumped out on the Rams last week,

1611
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: and if they do that, you know Sunday they can

1612
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 2: make short work. But it feels to me like a

1613
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty game type thing. I'll lean to

1614
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: the Lions, but I'm not as nearly as confident as

1615
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: that was last week against the Rams, and you have

1616
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 2: to wonder, honestly, goodness, you have to wonder. There has

1617
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: to be some slight letdown. I understand the players were

1618
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 2: never a part of the past foibles, nor should they

1619
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: be held to the tune of the same old Lions mantra.

1620
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: But I will say this, they know that they were

1621
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 2: rallying around their guy Jared Goff last week. There was

1622
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: true emotion and winning that game, and it was a

1623
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 2: physical game and it went down to the wire quite frankly,

1624
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: and oftentimes when that happens, it's tough to get back

1625
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 2: up in the same way the following week. Now, the

1626
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Lions have been rock solid all year when they've needed

1627
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: to be, so they're gonna need to be. This Tampa

1628
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: Bay team should not be taken life of the four games.

1629
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: Believe it or not. It's not the case Buffalo game.

1630
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 2: I'd be most concerned about if you're a home team

1631
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,839
Speaker 2: and the road team stealing one of these. It's actually

1632
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 2: the Bucks Lions. This Bucks team is gonna come in

1633
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: free and easy, playing with house money and having a

1634
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: lot of fun. And the Lions, they wouldn't be human

1635
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 2: if they weren't feeling a little pressure all of a sudden.

1636
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 2: There's genuine expectations now for the Lions. So many people

1637
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 2: thought the Rams would win last week. I never thought

1638
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 2: the Rams would win last week. You know I feel

1639
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: about that whole Stafford situation. We don't need to revisit it.

1640
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 2: This is different now, this is a quantum physics the world.

1641
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 2: The Lions are becoming a darling and they've got the

1642
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 2: monkey off their back, So where do they go from here? Finally,

1643
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: Sunday night, did we maybe save the best for last Well,

1644
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 2: look the Mahomes Josh Allen rivalry has lived up to

1645
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 2: its billing every time. This is the most evenly matched

1646
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: game in terms of the spread. Buffalo Land two and

1647
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 2: a half. I think you know these two guys, Mahome

1648
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: and Josh Allen. They've met six times now during the

1649
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: Four of those have been regular season meetings, and the

1650
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 2: Bills won all three during the regular season, but the

1651
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,799
Speaker 2: Chiefs won both postseason games. You know about the thirteen

1652
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: seconds back in twenty twenty one. The difference for the

1653
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 2: Bills is in the regular and postseason matchups. They've had

1654
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: much defensive success.

1655
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 20: Now.

1656
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: In the regular season, the Bills have held the Chiefs

1657
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 2: to about twenty points a game and produce nine takeaways.

1658
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: But in the playoffs, where it matters, Gee, what a shock.

1659
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes rises to the occasion when the situation demands greatness.

1660
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: Can you be great? Patrick Mahomes always is? The Chiefs

1661
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 2: in the playoffs have averaged forty points in only one turnover.

1662
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 2: This is a big test for the Bills defense, and

1663
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 2: they're dealing with a variety of injuries. The You know,

1664
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 2: there are lots of matchups to watch around the field.

1665
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 2: This game is a coin flip honest to god, and

1666
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 2: I do think both teams will score on each other

1667
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 2: like it could be a thirty one to twenty eight

1668
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 2: game either way. It's one of those situations where maybe

1669
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 2: who makes the last play or do we go cliche

1670
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 2: and who the turnovers or whatever? Real quickly, let's get

1671
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 2: the cruise thoughts, just real quickly. All of the four games,

1672
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 2: which road team do you expect to upset the party?

1673
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: Kevin figures, Oh, that's a good one.

1674
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,520
Speaker 8: I would say Kansas City, mainly because all of Buffalo's

1675
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 8: injuries in Kansas City looks like they may have found

1676
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 8: something last week offensively, now that they're going to score

1677
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 8: thirty eight points or anything. But and knowing that Josh

1678
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 8: Allen is a bit of a turnover machine, he already

1679
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 8: has the pressure of the world on his shoulders and

1680
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 8: he's gonna have even more so in this game against

1681
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 8: Kansas City.

1682
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: So I think they're the road team who has the

1683
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: best shot.

1684
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 2: And of course the line is telling us that too,

1685
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 2: in case he's two to zero in the playoffs against Buffalo,

1686
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 2: all the pressure is on Buffalo. Ian which road team

1687
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 2: do you expect to upset the party this weekend?

1688
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 15: I like the Buccaneers, Bernie, and I actually liked the

1689
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 15: reasoning that you were going with in that the Lions

1690
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 15: just kind of for coming off that emotional win that

1691
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 15: you know, a week later it's hard to get up

1692
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 15: and really like come to play in the same way.

1693
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 15: So I got the Buccaneers. Baker looks good. I think

1694
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 15: he's a little banged up. Obviously, Godwin is questionable, but

1695
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 15: I don't know. I like their vibes right now. The Lions. Again,

1696
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 15: it's really about the Lions, the fact that I think

1697
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 15: they're gonna have a hard time bouncing back from such

1698
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 15: an emotional win.

1699
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 2: Fair Sha, you have thoughts on this. Do you think

1700
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 2: there will be a visiting team that breaks up somebody's

1701
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 2: part of this weekend?

1702
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 27: Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with FIGI here. I

1703
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 27: don't know about the Bucks. To be honest, as a

1704
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 27: Browns fan, I've seen Baker Mayfield. I love him with death,

1705
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 27: don't get me wrong, and I want him to win.

1706
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 27: But I mean, it's just it's gonna catch up with him.

1707
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 27: I really do think so. But I mean, for all

1708
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 27: the reasons that Kfig basically said, like, I really think

1709
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 27: that the Chiefs are gonna figure it out, and kind

1710
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 27: of they've been the Chiefs for so long, and I

1711
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 27: think they'll be able to go in there and kind

1712
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 27: of ruined the party for a lot of fans. But

1713
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 27: I mean, hey, it's it's been done before, and it's

1714
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 27: gonna keep happening as long as Patrick Mahomes is in

1715
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 27: this league. I think, so I will see in the

1716
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 27: Chiefs at least we'll see.

1717
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like Mahomes just simply has their number,

1718
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 2: And like you guy, it sounds like it's a bit

1719
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 2: more of a fade on Buffalo exactly. Buffalo might be

1720
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 2: the better team right now, they might be home, they

1721
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 2: might be the hotter team, but now you've still got

1722
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 2: to do it, you know, And you see those Casey

1723
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 2: Stengel used to say, the reason teams lose to the

1724
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 2: Yankees is because they get stuck staring at the pinstripes.

1725
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 2: When the Chiefs take the field and you see Patrick

1726
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 2: Mahomes over there, he's still he can win games on reputation,

1727
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 2: and you know, darn well, everybody knows darn well who's

1728
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 2: the pressure really on Buffalo. So I honestly would not

1729
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 2: surprise me if the Chiefs were to pull the upset.

1730
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 2: As it were, They're only a two and a half

1731
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 2: point under Love, but again, they are traveling, and this

1732
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 2: is Patrick Mahomes' first ever road playoff game, and should

1733
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs prevail, it'll be their sixth straight trip to

1734
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 2: the AFC Conference Finals coming up. If you hire Bill Belichick,

1735
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,799
Speaker 2: how big of a gamble will it be? No refute

1736
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 2: in the fact it's a legendary coach. He'll be in

1737
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. However, the fact remains that him

1738
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 2: taking over a program today is not the same as

1739
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 2: it was when he took over the Patriot Patriots twenty

1740
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 2: three years ago and he had one Tom Brady, we're

1741
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 2: gonna dive into this. We're just gonna give the facts

1742
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 2: and figures that might surprise you. And it's not in

1743
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,879
Speaker 2: any way to disavow Bill Belichick's accomplishments, but there are facts,

1744
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: maybe inconvenient facts. Football fans be sure to tune into

1745
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio every Saturday morning beginning at nine a m.

1746
01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 2: Eastern six am Pacific for countdown to kickoffers at by

1747
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:04,760
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1748
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:08,280
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1749
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,880
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1750
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app coming up.

1751
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,799
Speaker 2: Do you want to hire Bill Belichick? Let's kick the tires.

1752
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 2: Let me know what you think. I'm Bernie Frattle or

1753
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 2: come to you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

1754
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 2: Radio tirack dot com studios. Keep it locked right here.

1755
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1756
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 2: We're back on the Bernie Frattle Show. Fox Sports Radio.

1757
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 2: Come to you live from the tyrec dot Com studios

1758
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. We're taking up to two am Pacific,

1759
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 2: five am Eastern, it appears from what I'm hearing. Even though,

1760
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 2: of course the Atlanta Falcons have interviewed other coaches that

1761
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,799
Speaker 2: I believe Arthur Blank would really love to get Bill Belichick.

1762
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 2: The Falcons do have a good roster. They were good

1763
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 2: enough to perhaps win the NFC South this year. The

1764
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: division's there for the taking, and I know that in

1765
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 2: the past Arthur Blank has made a run at big

1766
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 2: time coaches like Joe Gibbs. And there's one other one

1767
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 2: who escapes me right now, but he's never been able

1768
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 2: to land the one, and he's tired of the art,

1769
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 2: you know, the Arthur Smiths of the world and et cetera,

1770
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 2: et cetera. So I think he's gonna strike a deal

1771
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 2: with Bill Belichick. And obviously the Cowboys thing was never

1772
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 2: gonna happen, the Chargers thing was never gonna happen. Maybe

1773
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 2: there's someone else in the mix there I'm not aware of,

1774
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 2: And I think the world of Bill Belichick. Okay, do

1775
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: I think he's the greatest coach of all time in

1776
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 2: any sport? No, I've said often that belongs to Scotty

1777
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 2: Bowman of NHL fans. Scotty Bowman not only won nine

1778
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 2: Stanley Cups, he won in three different eras, and the

1779
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 2: three that he won with the actually won with three.

1780
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 2: He won in three different eras with three different teams,

1781
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 2: and he with the Red Wings he won three Stanley

1782
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 2: Cups with three different goalies. So do I think he's

1783
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's, you know, the greatest coach of all time?

1784
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 21: No?

1785
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 2: But as the great Bone Phillips once said, I don't

1786
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 2: know who's head of the class, but it don't take

1787
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 2: long to call role. So what I'm about to share

1788
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: with you is not to denigrate what Bill Belichick has done,

1789
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 2: but rather than just to state some undeniable facts, because

1790
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 2: whatever whoever hires Bill Belichick, you're gonna be taking somewhat

1791
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:24,679
Speaker 2: of a gamble. And I forget aid, forget all that. Okay,

1792
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 2: he's a legend, he is, well, he didn't forget out

1793
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 2: a coach. He's gonna be a first ballot NFL Hall

1794
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 2: of Famer. But the truth of the matter is you

1795
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 2: have to ask yourself if the juice is gonna be

1796
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 2: worth the squeeze. You're gonna get the bang out of

1797
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 2: your buck because you're not gonna have Tom Brady. And now,

1798
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 2: remember Belichick coach for years. He was in Cleveland for

1799
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 2: years before Tom Brady, and then he's been without Tom

1800
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 2: Brady for the last what four years now, So he's

1801
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: eighty two and ninety eight without Tom Brady as his quarterback.

1802
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 2: That's a winning percentage of four sixty three. When you

1803
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: consider that with Tom Brady, Bill Belichick won two hundred

1804
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,679
Speaker 2: and forty nine games and lost seventy five. The seven

1805
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 2: to sixty nine winning percentage, which is unheard of in

1806
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 2: the NFL, especially during the salary cap era. Six Super

1807
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 2: Bowl titles and they went to nine Super Bowls without

1808
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 2: Tom Brady eighty four and one oh three with a

1809
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 2: four to forty nine percentage. You can't conclude from that

1810
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 2: that Bill Belichick isn't a good coach. He did have

1811
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 2: the greatest argue. Well, I think the greatest quarterback resume

1812
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 2: of all time. For sure, it is disposal. But you know,

1813
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick put together some pretty damn good defenses too

1814
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 2: over the time. So as I said last week, and

1815
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 2: got somebody very upset because they thought I was denigrating

1816
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 2: Bill Parcells, which I was not. Bill Parcells never won

1817
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl without top Bill Belichick by his side,

1818
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 2: so he knows a thing or two about football and defense. Now,

1819
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 2: for those who conclude that Bill Belichick's not the same

1820
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 2: without Brady or he might be overrated, I don't. Everybody's

1821
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 2: saying that. But Tom Brady stuck up for his old coach.

1822
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 2: He doesn't agree with that assessment. He basically, I guess

1823
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 2: Brady has a podcast. It's called Let's Go. I've never

1824
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 2: heard it, and after the Patriots lost to the Cowboys

1825
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 2: and Saints, he basically said, look, Bill Belichick has the

1826
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 2: same work. I think he has the same coaching style

1827
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 2: that led to two decades a success. So what's the issue.

1828
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 2: There's a lot of variables. Things have to go right

1829
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: in order to win consistently, and you got to have

1830
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 2: horses right. Pete Rose said it best, Football's coaching. Football

1831
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: is like driving a stage coach. Without the horses, you're

1832
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,600
Speaker 2: not going forward. And you also have to have a

1833
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 2: great coaching staff, and you've got to have great players,

1834
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 2: you have great front off support. It's an organizational thing,

1835
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 2: and it's an organizational thing, and it's an organizational thing

1836
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 2: when you win or lose, So you can never really

1837
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 2: describe a win or a loss to one player. That's

1838
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 2: what Tom Brady's very humbly trying to say. They you

1839
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 2: know he won. He always says, it's not about me,

1840
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 2: it's about us. When you lose, you lose. As a leader,

1841
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 2: you take the blame. When you win, you give the

1842
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 2: credit where it's to. It's a team sport. So, at

1843
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 2: least in Brady's opinion, and he would know, Belichick's success

1844
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 2: was not solely because he had Tom Brady. But here's

1845
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 2: the issue with the counter argument to that. If you

1846
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 2: look at Bill Brady, Bill Belichick has been a head

1847
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 2: coach for a long time, and it's had a lot

1848
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:26,559
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks, and so you have to ask yourself if

1849
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 2: you're two hundred and forty nine and seventy five with

1850
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, well, the only other quarterback that you had

1851
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: that you had a winning record with, well, there were two.

1852
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 2: Vinnie testa Verdi when he was with the Browns he

1853
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 2: was seventeen and sixteen, and then there was that two

1854
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 2: thousand and eight season where Matt Castle started. They went

1855
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 2: ten and five. Remember Brady got hurt Week one towards

1856
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 2: acl They won that day. So the Pats were eleven

1857
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 2: and five that year, and people can say, well, well,

1858
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, what's the big deal about Brady? You know,

1859
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 2: so they were still won eleven games with all of them.

1860
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 2: By the way, they didn't make the playoffs that year

1861
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 2: as an odditie, but the year before they won eighteen games,

1862
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 2: so they dropped off by seven games. But so the

1863
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 2: only two quarterbacks that Bill Belichick has had where he

1864
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,840
Speaker 2: finished with the winning record were Matt Castle that was

1865
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 2: the two thousand and eight Patriots, and then Vinie Testaverdi

1866
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 2: back with the brown seventeen and sixteen. Mac Jones eighteen

1867
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 2: and twenty four, even though they did get to the

1868
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 2: playoffs in the Pro Bowl his first year. But then

1869
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 2: Josh mccanews, who I don't care for, must have had

1870
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 2: something to do with that. As an offensive coordinator Perney Cosar,

1871
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 2: he was only eleven and eighteen with Bell Belichick. Cam

1872
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 2: Newton was seven and eight, Drew Bledzell a record of

1873
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 2: five up and thirteen down, Mike tom Zach and Bally

1874
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 2: Bailey's Appy they were both four and four. How could

1875
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 2: I forget Jimmy g I'm sorry? He was two to

1876
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 2: zero as a back in a backup role with Bill Belichick.

1877
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 2: Mark Ripping two and one, Todd phil Cox, remember that

1878
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 2: name from Cleveland Browns back then, back in the day.

1879
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 2: He was two and three. Jacoby Brissett one and one,

1880
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 2: desire guy who came out of Georgia, never could make

1881
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 2: it big in the NFL. One in three, Brian Hoyer

1882
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 2: oh and two. So you can see here there are

1883
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 2: about fifteen quarterbacks that Bill Belichick has presided over in

1884
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 2: his NFL career, but there's only truly been one where

1885
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 2: he's had the kind of success that made him. Bill

1886
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Belichick's you know that bade him what he was so

1887
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: one can make a case that Brady maybe deserves a

1888
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 2: little more credit for the Pats dynasty than Belichick. The

1889
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 2: truth is, the combination is really what made knowingly going

1890
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 2: to fear some team. So what's the bottom line? Bill

1891
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 2: Belichick is going to bring a great amount of dignity

1892
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 2: and legacy and professionalism and commitment, but he's not going

1893
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 2: to be bringing Tom Brady. So are you taking a

1894
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 2: gamble when you hire Bill Belichick? You are depending on

1895
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 2: your expectations. If you think he's going to get you

1896
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 2: right to the super Bowl like you did with the Pats,

1897
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:54,719
Speaker 2: We'll just have to wait and see. But he still

1898
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 2: will lend somewhere. It looks like it's going to be

1899
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Coming up, We've got chris Perpfett's World of Soccer.

1900
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:02,879
Speaker 2: But first to go back to our guy, Kevin Figures.

1901
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 8: With the latest NBA Friday Night Bernie Brooklyn out scored

1902
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 8: the Lakers sixty eight to forty four in the second

1903
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 8: half and picked up a one thirty to one twelve

1904
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,719
Speaker 8: victory behind thirty three points from Cam Thomas. The Nats

1905
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 8: had lost fourteen of their previous seventeen coming into that

1906
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 8: matchup Boston at won their first twenty games of the season.

1907
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 8: That was until the Nuggets came in and picked up

1908
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 8: a one oh two to one hundred victory as Jason

1909
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 8: Tatum missed the potential game tying jumper at the buzzer.

1910
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 8: Devin Booker scored fifty two points and dished out five

1911
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Speaker 8: assists for Phoenix. They defeated the Pelicans one twenty three

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Speaker 8: to one oh nine, and NFL News Buffalo will be

1913
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Speaker 8: without Gabe Davis for their divisional matchup against Kansas City tomorrow.

1914
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Speaker 8: Baltimore did not take star tight end Mark Andrews off

1915
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Speaker 8: of ir which means he won't play against Houston this afternoon.

1916
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Speaker 8: The Raiders named Antonio Pierce their full time permanent head

1917
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Speaker 8: coach college basketball victories on Friday night for eleventh ranked

1918
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Speaker 8: Indiana excuse me for Wisconsin, who defeated Indiana. Colorado State

1919
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Speaker 8: improved to fifteen to three. In the Mountain West, they

1920
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Speaker 8: picked up a victory over UNLV.

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Speaker 1: Back to Bernie Freddle, All.

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Speaker 2: Right, Kevin, thanks Perl. Enjoy your weekend. Okay, uh we

1923
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Speaker 2: covered all on The Bernie Fraddle Show. By these shows

1924
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Speaker 2: go fast, but listen, we've got We've got the Olympics

1925
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 2: less than six months away now, and of course one

1926
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Speaker 2: of the major sports. They call it football around the world,

1927
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 2: we call it soccer here in the United States. You

1928
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Speaker 2: can be sure there'll be headlines. But in the interim,

1929
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Speaker 2: whether it's on the field or off the field, there

1930
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Speaker 2: are always headlines. That's why we bring you Chris Purfett's

1931
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Speaker 2: World of Soccer.

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Speaker 9: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama. It's

1933
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 9: all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

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Speaker 28: One of the great coaches in Europe is out and

1935
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 28: the question is where will he go next. It's been

1936
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:03,799
Speaker 28: a very discip winning season for the Italian club Roma.

1937
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:08,959
Speaker 28: They currently hold the third highest wage bill in Italy, which.

1938
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 1: Means you know, they spent a lot into their roster.

1939
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,799
Speaker 28: They went and got Polo de Bala a while back,

1940
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 28: spending a lot of money trying to really capitalize on

1941
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 28: what seemed like good momentum, and unfortunately, under a manager

1942
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 28: Jose Mourinho, the famous Portuguese manager, not much has really

1943
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 28: come to the club. Going into this weekend, they were

1944
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 28: about ninth on the Siria table, which is abysmal puts

1945
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 28: them completely out of contention. Really for much of anything

1946
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 28: in Europe, and this week we find Jose Mourinho himself sacked,

1947
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 28: relieved of his position as manager for Roma. In to

1948
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:51,759
Speaker 28: replace him the Roma former player Daniel de Rosi. Now,

1949
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,879
Speaker 28: Roma itself really isn't the story here. It's Jose Mourinho,

1950
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 28: because this now represents another very large failure for HOS

1951
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Speaker 28: and particularly this case, it seems like it was failure

1952
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Speaker 28: at a club that didn't have as high of a

1953
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 28: ceiling high of expectations at least traditionally as someone say

1954
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 28: like a Tottenham or a Manchester United. Now Roma does

1955
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 28: have very big expectations. However, they are of course one

1956
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 28: of the clubs of Rome. However, traditionally they've not really

1957
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 28: been exactly the Titans of Italy, so it was thought

1958
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:29,480
Speaker 28: that maybe Jose Mourinho and his more defensive oriented.

1959
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: Philosophy would work there.

1960
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 28: However it has not, and this represents another failure on

1961
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 28: the part of Jose Mourinho, who, in spite of a

1962
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 28: lot to be emulated and a lot to love about

1963
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 28: his managing style, guys love to play for him. He's

1964
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 28: seen as a wonderful manager of an organization. But I

1965
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 28: believe it is his on field philosophy of football that

1966
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:55,879
Speaker 28: really holds him back. And yes, maybe going to Italy,

1967
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 28: which in the twenty first century has been known for

1968
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 28: a very defensive style play, would have been a better fit.

1969
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,799
Speaker 28: But I don't think that's true of Italy, and indeed

1970
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 28: you see across Europe now it is more about the

1971
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,919
Speaker 28: pressing attack. It is a more about high flying offense.

1972
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 28: It isn't this possession, hold and win by defense style

1973
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 28: of soccer anymore. And Mourinho might very well with this

1974
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 28: big departure, be out of Europe or at least on

1975
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 28: the club level. However, Jose Mourinho could still be in

1976
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 28: for another big payday and back in the saddle before

1977
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,200
Speaker 28: you know it, because who is coming knocking none other

1978
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 28: than the Saudis. Yes, the Saudi Pro League has reached

1979
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 28: out to Jose Mourinho and he very well could end

1980
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 28: up with the Saudi club Al Shabab. He's being courted

1981
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 28: by the club right now. It's another major statement for

1982
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 28: the Saudi Pro League to go after big time names.

1983
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 28: Big There's been big players like Kareem Benzema and Cristiano

1984
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 28: Ronaldo to get Mourinho to manage a club like Al

1985
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 28: Shabab would absolutely be another feather in their cap to

1986
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 28: show that they are indeed a big player on the

1987
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 28: big stage.

1988
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Speaker 1: And it's not the first time they've gone after him.

1989
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 28: Last summer, when the Saudis started to really spend the

1990
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 28: money here and the Public Investment Fund launched into their

1991
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 28: massive spending spree of the transfer window, they tried to

1992
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 28: bring Jose Mourinho into the Saudi Pro League while he

1993
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 28: was still with Roma. The manager did not want to

1994
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 28: leave at a time. Now out of a job, he

1995
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 28: could very well be heading to the Arab golf and

1996
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 28: now from questions around the Mediterranean, out to Germany, where

1997
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 28: Giovanni Rena, one of the great up and coming young

1998
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 28: players for the US men's national team, is looking for

1999
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 28: a change of scenery, at least on.

2000
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:40,639
Speaker 1: The club level.

2001
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 28: It reports out here as we are in the January

2002
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 28: transfer window, that Rena wants out of his current club

2003
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 28: in the Bundesliga, Borussia Dortmund, and the reasons are very simple.

2004
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 28: You look at all his time and all the competitions

2005
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 28: across Dortmund and he has only played three hundred and

2006
01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 28: twenty minutes this season all competitions, not just Bundesliga it

2007
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 28: is an incredibly low amount of time, and you know,

2008
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:12,759
Speaker 28: going into Saturday's friendly against Slovenia. Greg Berhalter, the manager

2009
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 28: of the US men's national team, backed Rena and said

2010
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 28: he is right to be seeking playing time. This is

2011
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,679
Speaker 28: seeking more time on the field. It's the only way

2012
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 28: that a lot of American players are going to get

2013
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 28: that kind of development. And to be honest, this has

2014
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 28: always been the tricky part. When players go over to

2015
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 28: Europe rather than staying in say the MLS, or over

2016
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 28: in America or in another league where they can get

2017
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 28: that playing time, you're always butting up against a lot

2018
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,640
Speaker 28: of other players on those rosters, and Americans like Giovanni

2019
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 28: Reina need the time to play, but they also have

2020
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 28: to show that they're good enough to play on these

2021
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 28: club rosters. Also, Bernie, we finally have news that the

2022
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 28: twenty twenty six World Cup Final venue is set to

2023
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 28: be released here revealed on February fourth, was announced by

2024
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 28: FIFA here Thursday that that would be the particular date,

2025
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 28: and certain publications have reported that the potential candidates have

2026
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:09,799
Speaker 28: been narrowed down to just two places in the United States,

2027
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Speaker 28: at and T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. And MetLife Stadium

2028
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 28: in East Rutherford, New Jersey. So no Los Angeles Sofi

2029
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 28: Stadium in spite of everything, if you are to believe reports,

2030
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 28: which strikes me as very disappointing given the nature of

2031
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 28: Sofi Stadium.

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Speaker 1: I've been there.

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Speaker 28: I feel that it is world class without question. I

2034
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 28: understand that at and T Stadium, Cowboys Stadium tends to

2035
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 28: get precedents in a lot of major events. It's kind

2036
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 28: of become the go to destination for a lot of

2037
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 28: places to pick their championship events. But I'm not thrilled

2038
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 28: about the idea of playing inside of a dome form

2039
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 28: one of the great the final in one of the

2040
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 28: greatest competitions the world has known, especially especially depending on

2041
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 28: what the surface would be. I hope they've got some

2042
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 28: sort of national service to bring in there, because I'm

2043
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 28: not really feeling it right now. I know Cowboys Stadium

2044
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 28: gets all the love. I know Jerry Jones, this is

2045
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 28: his mo I'm not feeling it. Met Life Stadium in

2046
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 28: the Meadow Lens that could be kind of interesting, but

2047
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 28: I'm not really big up on New York myself. I

2048
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 28: really feel like, hopefully that we can see a twist

2049
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 28: and La gets it. But something tells me that last

2050
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 28: man's standing. My BET's probably going to be that it's

2051
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 28: going to be Cowboys Stadium at and T Stadium in Texas,

2052
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 28: and that's where everything is going to be set. It's

2053
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 28: a major venue, it holds a lot of people. However,

2054
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 28: I just find the fascination to keep putting events there

2055
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 28: just frustrating, frustrating because all these other great new stadiums

2056
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,799
Speaker 28: have been built and we're just keep going back to Dallas.

2057
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess, okay, Okay, I'm just a hater.

2058
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 2: I guess.

2059
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 28: Finally, there's Africa Cup of Nations action this week. Bernie

2060
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:01,640
Speaker 28: thrilling match from Friday. Senegal now with two wins in

2061
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 28: the Africa Cup of Nations, Sadiomne getting on the board

2062
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 28: twice in this competition against Cameroon. Representing Senegal, they I

2063
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 28: believe are almost through to the round of sixteen, if

2064
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,799
Speaker 28: not already, although disappointing news for Egypt they have drawn

2065
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 28: in both their matches so far. They've got another one

2066
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 28: coming up on Monday, but they're going to be out

2067
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 28: without Mohammed Sala, who is suffering a hamstring injury and

2068
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 28: has projected to be out for at least two matches

2069
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 28: for Egypt. It could be dicey there for the African Giants.

2070
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 28: A lot to see here, a lot to watch. Continue

2071
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 28: to roll along in the world.

2072
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 2: Of soccer, Christopher Fetz World of Soccer. It never ceases

2073
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 2: to amaze me how much is going on off the

2074
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 2: field and off season. But it'll pick up, just like

2075
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:50,719
Speaker 2: it did two years ago when we started this, heading

2076
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 2: into the Men's World Cup followed by the Women's World Cup.

2077
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 2: We had to Paris in July and put it'll be

2078
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 2: quite a lead up heading into that. Coming up, we

2079
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 2: wrap up the show, Why isn't one particular coach getting

2080
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: more love? And another interim coach got love and it

2081
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 2: was very justified. Well, chop it up. Coming up, I'm

2082
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle. We're coming to live from the Las Vegas

2083
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Tirack dot Com studios. Keep it locked.

2084
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fradtle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2085
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 2: Right we are wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show,

2086
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 2: coming to you live from the Tarrac dot Com studios

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01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:31,680
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Back on these airwaves eleven pm

2088
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 2: Saturday night. Lots to chop up. We'll preview review the

2089
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 2: NFL Playoffs Divisional round look ahead. Physick Sports will join us, Steve,

2090
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 2: my buddy, Steve Fessick. Of course we've got NBA stuff,

2091
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 2: the biggest stories, the biggest headlines, brand new fool, what

2092
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 2: my name? Back on these airwaves at eleven pm Saturday night.

2093
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:52,600
Speaker 2: Before I go any further, though, I do want to

2094
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 2: thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles. They've been

2095
01:52:56,200 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 2: with me since eleven pm Friday night. Great teamwork figures

2096
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:03,879
Speaker 2: on the updates. Of course, Mark Ramsey are Tucker Gold producer,

2097
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 2: turning all the dials, keep us glued together, and both

2098
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 2: Seane Mogngardi and Roddy great job with the callers and

2099
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:15,639
Speaker 2: everybody had good input on the situation involving Peacock and

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01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 2: charging to see the playoff game. And of course the

2101
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 2: midnight hour is going to be a fixture in a

2102
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 2: staple here on the Bernie Fradle Show every Friday night

2103
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 2: midnight Pacific. Couple things I want to get off my chest.

2104
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 2: You know, there's an old saying, class never goes out

2105
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 2: of style, respect never goes out of style. I have

2106
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 2: sad through in twenty nine years hundreds of press conferences,

2107
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:43,679
Speaker 2: and I'm proud I've never been one of these reporters

2108
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,799
Speaker 2: who asked the question because I don't care. The answers

2109
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 2: are pre programmed. You might catch somebody in a bad mood,

2110
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 2: good mood. I just don't bother. Which is why what

2111
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 2: caught my eye the other day when the Tampa Bay

2112
01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:01,600
Speaker 2: Bucks or Todd coach Todd Bowles was having a press conference,

2113
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 2: and some reporter who I'm not sure their level of

2114
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:10,719
Speaker 2: awareness or experience, but this is one of those boom

2115
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 2: goes to dynamite experiences, this reporter decided you would ask

2116
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 2: coach Todd Bowles about facing the Detroit Lions in the

2117
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 2: divisional round. He said, quote looking forward to Detroit, the

2118
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 2: weather has been a factor in some of the playoff games,

2119
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 2: even for the most prepared teams. Now it's thirteen degrees

2120
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Speaker 2: in Detroit. This individual said, any plans to acclimate the

2121
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 2: team to not only endure the weather, but performing these

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Speaker 2: kind of frigid temperatures when you face the Lions in Detroit? Okay, Now,

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Speaker 2: I can tell you I've sat through enough press conferences.

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Speaker 2: This is an all timer. I've sat through enough press

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Speaker 2: conferences where a coach would have just barbecued the person dirty. Look,

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Speaker 2: whatever you name it, you can figure out for yourself

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Speaker 2: how some people might have handed handle this. Not Todd Bowles.

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Speaker 2: Very classy, very respectful. He just kind of paused for

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01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 2: a couple of seconds and said he didn't say it

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01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 2: in the condescending tone, didn't say it in an inflammatory tone.

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Speaker 2: She said, you do know we play indoors, right, They

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Speaker 2: got a dome there, and you know, maybe there'll be

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Speaker 2: a situation where we like to get off the bus

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Speaker 2: and it's twenty seconds, so we're not We're not going

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Speaker 2: to be in it that much, and it'll be seventy

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Speaker 2: degrees inside. He let the guy off the hook, which

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Speaker 2: also got me to think, and why in the hell

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Speaker 2: is Todd Bowles not getting more credit for what he's

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Speaker 2: done in Tampa Bay this year? No one had them

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Speaker 2: win in that division. Everybody thought Derek Carr would strolling

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01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 2: into the orlds. I knew that wouldn't happen, and truth

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Speaker 2: be told, I actually thought Atlanta was going to sneak

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Speaker 2: up within that division, but no, Todd Bowles steady hand

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Speaker 2: helped him go six to one down the stretch. He

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01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 2: got the most out of Baker Mayfield. You know, coach

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01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,200
Speaker 2: has always taken on the personality of their field general,

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Speaker 2: I'm impressed with what Todd Bowles has done. He's one

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01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 2: game away from the NFC Championship game, and listen, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna give Detroit everything they can handle. I believe, I

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Speaker 2: don't know who's gonna win that game, but I don't

2151
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Speaker 2: think it's it's automatic that the lines to show up

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Speaker 2: and smoke them. So it's about time. I think Todd

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01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 2: Bowles gets just a little bit of love for not

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01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,840
Speaker 2: only what he's done, but I think the classy, respectful

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01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 2: way he currently handled that reporter who is either misinformed

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01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 2: or perhaps maybe had gotten into Grandpa's cough suroupe. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to make fun of the person. Stuff happens. Okay, people,

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01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:33,120
Speaker 2: it happened. But as you well know, in this world

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Speaker 2: where people love to play gotcha, there are many coaches.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I saw Lloyd Carr look at a at

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01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 2: Michigan look at a reporter once. It's the dumbest question

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01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 2: I've ever heard in my life, and he apologized the

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Speaker 2: week later. But you can't undering the bell when you

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01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 2: do that stuff. And you've seen in the NHL and

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Speaker 2: certainly in the NFL, where coaches are are snotty toward reporters,

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01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 2: and even Bill Belichick, the Hall of Famer, has often said, Look,

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Speaker 2: I don't care for the media because if I'm losing,

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Speaker 2: they can't saved me, and if I'm winning, they can't

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Speaker 2: touch me. So again you've I've made my point on

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Speaker 2: Todd Bowles, another guy who I think is very classy.

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Speaker 2: He always thought he was a great analyst. He was

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01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 2: a very good player in the National Football League. If

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01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 2: you recall we played for the New York Giants right back.

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Speaker 2: I think two thousand and six might have been his

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Speaker 2: last year. But I'm talking about Antonio Piers. So Antonio

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01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 2: Piers takes over for the Raiders after Week eight. He

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Speaker 2: was elevated from linebackers coach to interim coach when Josh

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01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 2: mccaniels was fired a Halloween night, and he ends up

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Speaker 2: the season in fine fashion, beating Denver twenty seven to fourteen,

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Speaker 2: and everybody could see the job Antonio Piers did. It

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01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 2: leaded him to a five and four finish when he

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Speaker 2: took over. By the way, hammered the Chiefs in Narrowhead

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Speaker 2: Stadium on Christmas Day, the only the second time the

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Speaker 2: Raiders have won there in the last eleven years. Antonio

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Speaker 2: Piers deserved this promotion and he never even though he'd

2186
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 2: never been a head coach of the high school level.

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Speaker 2: He's a leader and he knows how to delegate. And

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Speaker 2: if you watch the Raiders, they played a very crisp

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Speaker 2: version of football. They were stingy, they were physical, they

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Speaker 2: were about their business. They were a very assignment sound.

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Speaker 2: That was because of Antonio Pierce. And as you know,

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Speaker 2: and by the way, the ten years I covered the Lions,

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Speaker 2: the coaches who went through from Wayne Fonce to Gary

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01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 2: Muller to Bobby Ross, Tomarty, Morning Web with Steve marri

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01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 2: Ucci to Rod Marinelli, Dick Geron, a couple of interim guys.

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Speaker 2: Whenever a guy was fired a couple of weeks that

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Speaker 2: you know, teams would look fired up and then it

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Speaker 2: would go away. No, the last nine weeks, Antonio Pierce

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Speaker 2: had that group, He had that locker room and your

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01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 2: Max Crosby said he would want to be out. He'd

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Speaker 2: want out. So the Devanti Adams if if Antonio Pierce

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01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 2: wasn't hired, So Mark Davis did not make the same

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01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,280
Speaker 2: mistake he made four years ago, three years ago when

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01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 2: he didn't hire Rich Passaci and brought in Josh McDaniels.

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01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 2: That was a mistake. So congratulations Antonio Peers. It's well deserved.

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Speaker 2: He was a pro bowler as a player with the

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Speaker 2: New York Giants, played nine seasons in the league. He's

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Speaker 2: a leader of men, and he's proven that he has

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Speaker 2: the demeanor and the wherewithal to take this job and

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Speaker 2: have the Raiders perhaps get back to the winning ways,

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Speaker 2: which I haven't had in two decades. So congratulations to

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Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce. Well deserved. Folks are already looking forward to

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Speaker 2: next year. It's gonna do it for the Bernie Fratter Show.

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Speaker 2: See it Saturday night at eleven pm. In the meantime,

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Speaker 2: keep it locked the Fellas up next. Fox Sports Radio