1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: dot com, where the Giants Mob part of the Giants 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: podcast network. Welcome to another edition of the Giants Huttle Podcast. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: From now until training camp, we'll have a series of 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: player interviews. We've split them up by position to kind 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: of give you a feel of where this Giants team 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: is heading in the training camp of two. Just as 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: a reminder, you can find the Giants Huttle Podcast on 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms, on the Giants Mobile app and 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: the Giants dot Com slash podcasts. And today we're gonna 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: talk to the Giants defensive backs, their cornerbacks and safeties. 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk the third year safety Zavier McKinney first. Now 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: we're joined by Giants safety David McKinneys. Say, what's going on, man, 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: Not much, just just chilling, having a good time and 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: uh getting ready for the new year. Yeah, where we're 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the off season program here in 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: the spring. What do you think you guys accomplished. I 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: think we did a great job of just building that 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: uh that bond with each other being in the building. 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of new faces, a lot of uh 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: fresh new faces, Um, different people, but it's been fun. 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Um we've all you know, built relationships with each other. 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: And I think that's this during this time, and it's 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: what it's all about. How much different is what they're 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: asking you to do and this defense compared to what 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: you did in the defense the last couple of years. 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: It's it's different, but it's not anything new. Um. You know, 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: I did a lot back in college. So um, it's 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: not something that's you know, unfamiliar for me. Um, but 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: it is different from the last two years for sure. Um. 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: It's a lot more just moving around and being able 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: to play and and and uh you know, be myself, 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: be able to make plays. So um, it's definitely fun 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: and it's been fun being able to learn it and 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, get used to it. It's just remind you 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: of some of the stuff you did Alabama a little bit. 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Um, So which is the girl? Uh, just 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: a just a lot, like I said, a lot more moving, 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: a lot more moving pieces for me, Um, being able 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: to blitz cover, you know, playing a deep part of field, 41 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: do everything that that's in my toolbox that I'm able 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: to do. So I'm happy to get back to, you know, 43 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: being you know the player that that I am, that 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I've always been. No, I gotta imagine it's probably gonna 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: be a lot more you match it up one on 46 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: one with the guys man to man this year than 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: maybe did the last couple. Right, Yeah, No, for sure, 48 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, once we get into game 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: playing stuff and you know, we we come up against 50 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: those you know, really good tight ends, I'm sure I 51 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: would have to play uh you know, man and man 52 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: on them. Yeah, and zero coverage stuff too, right where 53 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: it's man and you probably ain't gonna have that much help, right. No, 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. I think you know, with this defense, 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: that's that's all. It's a lot about what it's about. 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: So um, and we know that we accept the challenge 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I think you know, we'll be ready 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: for that. And then the flip side of that, when 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: you guys play cover one, what should be a lot 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: of what you do too, and you're that single high guy, 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: that's a lot of responsibility, right because you're that last 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: line of defense to prevent any big place. Yeah. Um, 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: I mean it's fun for me. Um. I don't see 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: it as like, uh, you know, any pressure or anything. 65 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: It's it's very fun to be able to patrol the back. 66 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: The backfield is let my guys know that that's in 67 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: front of me that I got got them help over 68 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: the top. So um, and we've had we've always had 69 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: that communication. Even last year. The first year didn't matter, 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: so um, you know, I always make sure that I 71 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: relay that to them so they never feel like worried 72 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: about getting beat over the top. Was always always tell 73 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: them that I'm there for him. So I know you're 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: a confident player, a smart player, but how much has 75 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: the experience of the last two years made you even 76 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: more prepared to play that role because you can do 77 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot more anticipating as to what the offense is 78 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: trying to do, so you know where you need to 79 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: be to cover that back end. I think it helped 80 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: a lot big time, especially with obviously the guys that 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: were here, Um, you know, we had Bradberry, we had Logan, Um, 82 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: just the older vet guys that were, um, you know, 83 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: helping me elevate my game take to the next level. Um. 84 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: So I think it really helped a lot. Um just 85 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, the little things where it was filmed and 86 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: them kind of let me know what they might get 87 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: on certain routes in certain situations. So it really helped 88 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: me and slow the game a lot. Slow the game 89 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: down a lot for me. Um, And just my own 90 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: study and preparation has has helped that too, And I 91 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: imagine that was helping this system is specifically right because 92 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: we were talking. I was talking to Blake Martinez and 93 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: he made the point where you're pressuring the offense to 94 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: make very quick decisions, so the ball has to come 95 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: out faster, right, So how important if you do anticipate 96 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: what they're hot, is what they're quick passes on a 97 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: certain place, so you can kind of be in that 98 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: right spot to make plays on the ball. Yeah, it's uh, 99 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: it's I think it's it's a lot easier when you 100 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: have pressure and and and you have to cover somebody 101 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: because you know, depending on what pressure it is, depending 102 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: on where it's coming from, you know where the ball 103 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: wants to go, where they want to throw it, when 104 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna throw a hot when they're not. So, um, 105 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot easier, um to to go 106 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: down there and and and be able to cover your 107 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: guy because you know you're not you might not have 108 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: to cover them for too long. So, um, I think 109 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: that's the good thing, really good thing about this defense 110 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: and and just knowing that we can't we're gonna be 111 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: able to get to the quarterback. It's gonna be fun. 112 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: I know it sounds crazy, but are you taking on 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: more of a veteran role in in the room now 114 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: since James isn't back Logan's not here, do you feel 115 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: some more leadership on hand those shoulders of yours? Like 116 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: I said, Um, it's it's stuff that I'm not you know, 117 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: it's not like it's uh not familiar to me. So 118 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: but for me, it's not really it's not much about that. 119 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: I just want to figure out how to win. Um, 120 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: And that's been my biggest thing always, So I've always 121 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: said if leadership comes with that, then that's what comes 122 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: with it. Obviously, I know the job that I have 123 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: to do within my my my room, the DBS and 124 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: the defense. So, um, I know that job and I 125 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: know I'll take care of it that accordingly. But at 126 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: the end of the day, trying to win games and um, 127 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: you know that, I think that's it. As it helped 128 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: having coach Anderson back to kind of you get you 129 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: from one system to the next Yeah, it definitely has 130 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: been able to have. You know, we got Rome and 131 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: then you got Mike too. So just being able to 132 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: have coaches that were already here with me and I 133 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: have been here with me since my rookie year. Uh, 134 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: that's definitely, you know, good to have, just to uh 135 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: have that have that phase there. Still you already got 136 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: that connection, got that bond. You psyched about blitzing more. 137 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: I am, I am man. It's gonna be really fun, man, 138 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: because I haven't blessed in two years, so I'm still 139 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: You do know how many blits has he had the 140 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: last two years off? And do you even remember? Zero? 141 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: It was a zero? Yeah? I had I had one 142 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: um in the preseason against the Patriots last year. Um, 143 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: but that was it. I didn't I didn't have one 144 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: blitz all year for two years. You get excited exactly exactly. 145 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: That's awesome. But what has been like working with Julian 146 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: back there? It's good man. We uh you know, we've 147 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: we've already always had the bond with each other. We've 148 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: always had that connection with him or me and him, so, um, 149 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: it's it's been fun. I think we're still learning each 150 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: other and learning how we play and learning you know 151 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: what we like to do, what what he likes to do. 152 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: So um, but I think we're on the same page. 153 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: And uh, we're just going out of there having fun 154 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: and and you know he's helping me out a lot, 155 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: um and and vice versus. So it's definitely been fun 156 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to you know, play with him 157 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: this year. Does it help that both of you guys 158 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: can do some corner stuff, you can both do safety stuff, 159 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: you can both play down, you can both play deep, 160 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: you can Yeah. Is that help? Yeah? It always helps 161 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: when when you've got two guys uh in the back 162 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: that can versatile, that can play anything. You put them 163 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: anywhere and they'll they will be productive. So um, I 164 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: think that that really helps us a lot. And it helps, uh, 165 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, our defense and what we want to do. 166 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: I know, different systems are different. Do you guys have 167 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: like you're strong, you're free or both guys learn everything 168 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: and then depending on the play, you just kind of 169 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: switch what you're doing. Well, I start off free, he 170 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: starts off strong, um, and then we you know, obviously 171 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: if the game's going fast, we get we we both 172 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: know both spots. But I'm I'm free um, and he's 173 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: a strong so but like I said, we both know 174 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: both side, so it's all good. Has been within the house, 175 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Dave Belton, the new rookies, he's been he's been good. 176 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: He's still learning. Um. Obviously he's young. Um, but I 177 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: could say that you know, he was a lot better 178 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: than what I was my rookie yere Um. Yeah, it's 179 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: very smart, um, as far as you know the learning 180 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: curve and all the different things that go with the 181 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: rookie years. So um, you know, I salute him to that. 182 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: But you know, for me, I just keep pushing them, 183 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: trying to make sure that he gets better each and 184 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: every day. And uh make sure that he takes every 185 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: rep whether we're in practice and the meeting. Seriously, Uh, 186 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: make sure he's locked in and so make sure that 187 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: he don't have any mental errors or anything like that. 188 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Final question. You know, brindable as an offensive background, but 189 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: he's the head coach. I always been kind of involved 190 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: in everything. What has been like working with him and 191 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: just kind of the whole new vibe and and feeling 192 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: in the building with him this year been great, man, 193 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: it's been great. Um. I think he's really you know, 194 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: connected well with the players. Um. I think he's you know, 195 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: he's really for us. Uh. You know, he makes sure 196 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: that you know, whatever we need, that we that we 197 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: have it. Um And And like I said, he's just 198 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: been great with communicating, um And, I think that's the 199 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: biggest thing, uh, you know, for for you know, coaching 200 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: the head coach, just being able to communicate with everybody, 201 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: have everybody say, Page, you guys done some of my 202 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: Alabama alumni bonding or anything like that. If he gets 203 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: in Alabama, yeah we we have a little bit. But 204 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: right now we're kind of just worried about this. Jesus 205 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: so a good stuff, dude, I appreciate it. That's luck 206 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: this year seeing and the July Sir, you too, appreciate you. 207 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: And now we're joined by veteran cornerback Dorey Jackson. Dory, 208 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: what does it feel like you're you're kind of like 209 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: the vet in the not just the cornerback, like the 210 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: whole dB room, right, What is that like for you? 211 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy because I remember my rookie when I came in, 212 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: I was twenty one, and the guy was like, oh, 213 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: he must have been born in two thousand, like, you know, 214 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: just joking. Women because I was young in the room 215 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: and now we actually have guys in the room that 216 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: was born in two thousands, thousand and one. So, UM, 217 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: it's interesting to see how the tables of turn. But 218 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, I enjoy it. Um. I'm still able to 219 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: play and learn, but at the same time helped though 220 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: around me UM that may need help or whatever they 221 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: may need, just to be that that voice or here 222 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: to listen to because I haven't been through it. Now. 223 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: It's funny you came in last year to play for 224 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Graham and his system. It's a little bit different 225 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: than what has that transition been like going to what 226 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: you were doing last year or now what Wink wants 227 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: you to do this year. At a corner, I think 228 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: the transition has been fun um understanding UM what he 229 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: wants and then just fully diving into it and being 230 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: an open vessel, you know. UM. So I think I'm 231 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: enjoying the whole process of learning. UM. You know, met 232 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: with the coaches and see what they want, what they 233 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: think of me, and UM trying to help and implement 234 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: and do what I do and do what they want 235 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: to do as best as I can now. Corners, I 236 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: know they like to play man to So is this 237 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: like right new wheelhouse? Do you like it? This is 238 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: uh in my wheelhouse. And this is something that I 239 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: mean every corner I don't want to say, dreams of, 240 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: but loves to pluck, you know, play man and man 241 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: be able to guard you know, your man and and 242 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: and make plays. Um when I feel like that's the 243 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: that's the idea of a quarterback. When you hear that 244 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: a guy that can play man and make players on 245 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: the ball. So, um, yeah, it's just fun to be 246 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: in the system and and and to learn. Well, let's 247 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: talk about it. What does it take to be a 248 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: good press man cornerback. I think it takes some resiliency, 249 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: you know that as we talk about a lot, but 250 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: also um being confident and and and whatever, um, you 251 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: do well, you do well. And whatever you don't you 252 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: do not do well. Work on that as much as 253 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: you can as possible. Um, And so you have a 254 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: confidence when going in there, no matter what it is 255 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: a game or practice or walk through whatever. Maybe you're 256 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: just working and keep working and keep working and building 257 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: that confidence up so when the game comes, the second nature. 258 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: So I think that's what it takes to um be 259 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: a great press corner, or play man and man or 260 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: just play defense in general. UM, to have those mental 261 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: reps and mentally be there and mentally in tune. Because physically, 262 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we're working on it all the time, so 263 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: I think the mental aspect is what's gonna take you, 264 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: UM to that next level. Now, one thing that we've 265 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: talked a lot about is how much pressure this defense 266 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna put on a guy like you Because you're 267 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: probably gonna be up against the number one wide receiver 268 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the time, and quite frankly a lot 269 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: of time, you're probably not gonna have a ton of help. 270 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: So what work do you have to do during the 271 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: week to be ready for that challenge based on what 272 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: this scheme is gonna ask of you? Putting yourself in 273 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: those situations? UM, understanding, don't UM, I don't know how 274 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: to say it. UM let's say, don't cheat yourself. UM, 275 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: that's what that's That's why I want to get at. 276 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: Make sure you put yourself in those situations when the 277 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: game time comes up. You already done it a bunch 278 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: of times physically, and you've already seen it mentally, so 279 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: you didn't get out there second nature. UM, just help 280 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: you slow the game down. So I think that's really 281 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: what it comes down to, UM, just doing it in practice, 282 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: understanding and whatever you did in practice doing in the game. 283 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: You don't go out there and do something different. Now, 284 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: how does the fact that you know that pressure is 285 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: gonna get there? How can that change your approach of 286 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: how you play corner? Knowing the quarterback based on this 287 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: scheme is probably not gonna be able to sit back 288 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: there for four or five seconds. Does that change how 289 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: you can approach how you're gonna play these corners knowing 290 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: that maybe they're not gonna have time to run that 291 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: full route tree. Um. I think it just makes you 292 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: trust your instincts a lot more. UM. But at the 293 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: same time, and it goes through the day to day 294 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: prep uh, because you can say that the pressure gonna 295 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: get there, but what are you doing in your practice 296 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: or what are you doing in the walk through to 297 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: put yourself in a situation the position to UM affect 298 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: the game and change the game. So UM, I think 299 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: that starts with UM getting those reps physically mentally, and 300 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: then just being a student of the game and learning 301 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: and trying to find that extra as that you can 302 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: to help you prepare and be better on game days. 303 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: And how much is that it's properly anticipating what that 304 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: receiver might do? Right, because if you know you're bringing 305 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: a seven or eight man pressure package right, there's gonna 306 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: be hot. So how much is that you're studying during 307 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: the week to understanding what their alerts are, what their 308 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: hots are, so you can then anticipate with your coverage 309 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: with that wide receiver is gonna do. I think it 310 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: takes like it goes back to practice in a sense, 311 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, trust your gut anticipating 312 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: you might as well take those risks now, don't wear 313 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: you out practice and doing it. Um. You know a 314 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: quote that is the biggest The biggest risk is not 315 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: taking any at all. Um, So for you to go 316 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: out there and practice and and not trust your God 317 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: or trust what you see and then going out there 318 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: and triggering and reacting. Um, so always react and anticipate, 319 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: but and don't and don't guess. So you have to 320 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: go out there and do it in practice and let 321 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: it implement and go through the game. So I think 322 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean everything goes back to practice, your fundamental, your technique, 323 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: and you're studying because if you didn't study it, you 324 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: can't really anticipate uh and attack. But if you study, 325 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: then you can anticipate an attack. Finally, tell me about 326 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: this quarterback room. I brought the roster for a reason. 327 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, how many you guys are back from last 328 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: year and we can gets back and his back. We're 329 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: gonna have Arny heard a second. But you bought the 330 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: new guys, right, So what has it been like working 331 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: in this room? What has it been like in the room. 332 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: What's the group like? Because obviously you know when this 333 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: defense corner's got a confidence, I got that edge to him. 334 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: What has it been like working in this group get 335 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: trying to get them ready for the season. It's been 336 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: fun for us just pushing each other. Um seeing what 337 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people do well, try to implement your 338 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: game and just keeps you all on your edge because 339 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, at any time, 340 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: any moment, you can be called up and you can 341 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: take an account. Last year, um a Rod play, Jared play, 342 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: um d our name was out there in corners, so 343 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: everybody can play. And I think that's what helps us 344 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: to try to compete in not just me versus me 345 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: but us as a whole competing and trying to push 346 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: us to the best um of our ability. And I 347 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: think it comes to being accountable. I'm not just to yourself, 348 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: but to the group and understanding that we all want 349 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: to be out there. Um, so you're gonna just push 350 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: yourself harder and push the guy next to you harder. 351 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, when you get 352 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: out there and numbers called an opportunity to presents itself 353 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: and got to go out there and make it happen. 354 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: The final question, You've been parts of really good defenses, 355 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: you've been parts of defenses that maybe haven't been the best. 356 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: What makes you think, based on what you've seen from 357 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: the scheme, the coaches and the players obviously that this 358 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: can work this year and it's gonna be good. I 359 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: think it's just about buying there. You know, any defenses 360 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: you play on everybody buying in being on the same page, 361 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: being on the same accord, and holding each other accountable. Um. 362 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: I just think that's the that's the approach, your goal, 363 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: and you see that so far in the spring. But 364 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: holding each other in countable, Yes, I'm making sure that 365 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: we're all out there on the same page. Make sure 366 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: we're communicating and trying to just bring the best at 367 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: each other. Like if somebody sees me not doing something, 368 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: um uh, expect them to tell me I'm not doing 369 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: something well and vice versus. So it's not like you're 370 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: getting mad or you're upset as yourself, but you're trying 371 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: to push yourself and exert yourself, um to the maximum 372 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: effort and to the best your ability. So I think 373 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: I think holding each other accountable at that aspect, learning 374 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: and buying in is how you get to take that 375 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: step to be a good defense, a great defense. Thanks 376 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: dropping by the appreciating, thank you seeing the July Giant 377 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: season tickets are on sale now for the season. In 378 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: addition to ticket savings, remember should benefits include access to 379 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: exclusive events, experiences, pre sales, and more. You can lock 380 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: in your seat starting at just one hundred bucks. Called 381 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: nygit giants dot com slash tickets for more information. And 382 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: now we're doing by Giant Safety. Julian Love Julian, good 383 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: to see a man. How are you? How are you? 384 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Man? All right? How has it been 385 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: trying to learn a new defense? It has been too bad, honestly, Uh, 386 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: you know we've had some time we've all been in here, 387 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: um to make sure you know, we're gonna camaraderie again, 388 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: that communication down. It's been a growing process, but you 389 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: know we've been feeling good so far. Now from the 390 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: outside looking in, I see the last two years more 391 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: of that ben but don't break type of defense, a 392 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: lot of zone that ain't we'll make Martin. Now, is 393 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: this as different for you trying to learn it as 394 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: it as it looks from us on the outside looking in? Yeah, 395 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: it's different, uh for sure. But this is all the 396 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: type of football that you've always kind of wanted to 397 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: play or that you always tried to play growing up. 398 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: This is like that pickup ball football with you and 399 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: your friends. Um, that's what it brings me back to, 400 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, instead of instead of 401 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: being back in the day. You don't have to wait 402 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: for Mississippi's the quarterback. You know, we're trying to get 403 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: there before they say one Mississippi. Uh. And so it's 404 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: been a lot of fun. It's been different, for sure, 405 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: but I've really enjoyed this process. What are the things 406 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: about the process and the defense that you've enjoyed the most? 407 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: I think just the the transparency between Wink his mindset, 408 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: how we're going to attack, what he thinks of us 409 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: as players, um, and our roles as each player. UM. 410 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: He's not one to shy away or kind of hide 411 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: you know what the intention is behind things. UM. And 412 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: he's very been very forward. And so with that, you know, 413 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: guys know what they're have to work on, what we 414 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: have to do, what we want to accomplish. Uh. And 415 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: when you're all on one page and have a clear 416 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: goal uh and clear objectives, UM, it's much easier to succeed. 417 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: Now you and Zay or two young guys, but now 418 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: you're also like the veteran leaders of the secondary. Now 419 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: you in a dory. There's just not a lot of 420 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: guys with a lot of years of experience in the secondary. 421 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: So you've been taking on more of a leadership. Roll 422 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: back there a little bit. Yeah, you know, I leave 423 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: in my own sense uh and sense in a way. UM. 424 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: You know, Dorey has the longest tenured NFL player on 425 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: our secondary. I'm the longest tenure giants on their secondary. 426 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: And Zay you know, it's coming into his own as 427 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: a playmaker in this league. UM, and it's been fun. 428 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: It's been really exciting just to get to know the 429 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: new guys. We get to know the defense, really communicate 430 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: with each other. And you know my role, Um, I'm 431 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, the personable guy. I would say on our 432 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: secondary I'm the guy that I want people to feel 433 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: comfortable talking to me. I'm gonna be openly accountable to 434 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: them as I want them to be for me as well. Um, 435 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: and they know where I'm staying. I think there's a 436 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: little more sense of Uh. I wouldn't say pressure, I 437 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: would say a sense of urgency for me. Um. You know, 438 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: with everything going on this year, I'm on year four, 439 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: there's a sense of urgency for me to leave the 440 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Giants at least in a better spot than when I 441 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: got here. Um. And you know, nobody knows what's gonna 442 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: happen next year, and so I'm trying to make the 443 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: most out of this year and really just do everything 444 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: I can to make this team a better team. How 445 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: do you think your skill set fits into what Wink 446 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: wants his safeties to do. Yeah, I think I think 447 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: my skills set fits in very well with what he wants. Uh. 448 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: In his stagies, I think he sees me he saw 449 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: me from day one. He acknowledged my game. Um. Obviously 450 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm versatile and I could do a lot UM, but 451 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: I played with the toughness. I think that's sometimes tough 452 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: for people to see or believe because of how I am, 453 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: you know talking to you right now, how I am 454 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: just talking to people off the field. Um, But I 455 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: carry that toughness. Uh, I really believe on the field. 456 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: And you like the tackle, I know, like yeah, And 457 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: so you've seen it, Um, and that's that's part of 458 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: my game. That's part of my kind of my foundation, 459 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: my identity, my d na UM. And so he acknowledged that. 460 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: And so right now, just we're just having a lot 461 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: of fun um and all that I can do this year, 462 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: and you know, I try to see his all opportunity 463 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: I can get, UM, and I have a big opportunities 464 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: here and so I'm gonna sees it now. The other 465 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: thing you have to do in wings defenses cover man 466 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: demand because you're gonna send a lot of guys and 467 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a lot of help behind you, 468 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: and you better cover that guy or it could be 469 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: a really big play. Your history at cornerback going back 470 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: to your time in college playing outside and inside. I 471 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: gotta imagine that maybe comfortable as the wrong word, but 472 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: at least it must give you confidence that if you're 473 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: putting those situations that look, I played quarterback, I could 474 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, no, exactly right. It's very familiar to me. UM. 475 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: And it's been an interesting journey, you know, from playing 476 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: man man corner uh in college to then playing a 477 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: deep safety, box safety nickel. You know, these different roles, um. 478 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: And so in the sense it is going back to 479 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: your bread and butter uh of just covering dudes a 480 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: simple as that, um, and whether it's tight ends or 481 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: receivers in the slot. Uh. And so I've had the 482 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: pleasure of guarding people everywhere. UM. This off season, we're 483 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: really gonna grind because we have to on man and man. 484 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna actually practice that, um because it's uh, it's 485 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: necessary for the defense. And Winks excited. He wants guys 486 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: in here who would cover and can tackle, and so 487 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to fill both of those roles. Now. We 488 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: had z in here before, and he talked about how 489 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: right now he's more free and you're more strong, but 490 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: you can kind of rotate. So is this a deal 491 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: where you're learning both spots equally and then depending on 492 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: the formation, you're gonna be an either spot. Listen and 493 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: I learned a defense or when winking install the defense. 494 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: I try to know every DV position. That's just the 495 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: reality for me, um and the reality of these past 496 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: three years for me. Uh. And so yeah, I I 497 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: try to know what the free, the strong than nickel 498 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: and the corners are doing, UM at all times. And 499 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: then you know, you might spice it a little diamond there. Uh, 500 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: you never know if you're really trying to get creative. UM. 501 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: So that's kind of been my tip of my show 502 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: that I've always had. I really want to know the coverage, 503 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: full coverage aspect. But it is different, you know, being 504 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: up close to the box, which I'm I think more 505 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: comfortable at and Zay just being you know, ball hucking, 506 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, playmaker. Um, that's something that he's going to 507 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: take a step up for. Uh, try and take us 508 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: up up this year as well. And I feel like 509 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: the strong safety position has been undervalued a little bit 510 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and everyone wants that range e free safety. 511 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: No one talks about the guy close to the line 512 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: of scrimmage for you, what are the challenges What do 513 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: you have to be good at to be an effective 514 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: strong safety in the league when you're playing in and 515 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: around that line of scrimmage. Yeah, I think that that 516 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: line gets you know, crossed with some players across the 517 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: league in terms of you know, strong safety and basically 518 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: kind of be like a linebacker. Um. Some uh strong safeties, 519 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: I guess you could say out there basically just playing 520 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: the box an the other chack lane kind of downhill guys, um, 521 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: And our defense is strong safety really has to be 522 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: able to cover you. Yeah, so you have to you 523 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: can slow you to cover tight ends. Um, you're you're pressuring, uh, 524 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: you're dropping a zone, you're playing deep and so it's 525 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: it's very versatile and that those are the skills that 526 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: are needed to succeed as a strong safety. Uh. Free 527 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: safety typically there you know, the range gier, the deeper guys, um, 528 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: but this defense, it's very fluid, uh, and so you 529 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: kind of gotta have a balance uh guill set for both. 530 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: We talked about a lot the last couple of years 531 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: how much disguise you guys did in the back end. 532 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Is it more disguise up front now and less disguise 533 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: in the back end. There are you guys still doing 534 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: a lot of disguise in the back end too. Yeah, 535 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: So with his defense that he incorporated, like off rip 536 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: was the disguise and how to be an effective pressure team. Um, 537 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: so that's going to be something that's very exciting how 538 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: we're handling our front um. But also with just the 539 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: coaches we have that you know carried over like Jerome Henderson, Um, 540 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a technician in disguising secondary and 541 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: GUIs and secondaries disguising coverages, and so it will be 542 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: a good mixture and which is fun. Like before you know, 543 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: we had one or the other. Now it'll be uh, 544 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: it'll be well, well, well we'll keep you guys guessing 545 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: to two final questions. Dame Belton the rookie safety. What 546 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: has it been like working with him? Because he seems 547 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: like he's a guy like you that he kind of 548 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: played that money position, cash position you know they have 549 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: every team is a deaf name for it in college, right, um, 550 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: and he can kind of do all those same type 551 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: of things. What has it been like working with him? 552 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: Has been good? So for are you know he's you know, 553 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to understand him as a person first 554 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: and foremost. Um. But he's a good kid. Um, he's smart. 555 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: And that's the kind of the running joke is Uh, 556 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: people say, hey, doing his dame smarter than you? Uh, 557 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: as you know, try to like mess with both of 558 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: us basically, and you know, just trying to see how 559 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: he could react as a as a player, as a person. Um. 560 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed having him so far. I'm excited 561 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: to continue to get to know him. Um, because we're 562 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: gonna need him, that's the reality of it. We're gonna 563 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: need him to come along, and so I'm gonna do 564 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: everything in my power to get him there. Final question, 565 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: You've seen a bunch of different offenses in this league. Now, 566 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: I know you like to study what you're going up against. 567 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: What does the shots offense look like? Is it gonna 568 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: be tough to cover? It is funky? Uh. They got 569 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: some stuff to him. Uh, they got some They're very 570 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: creative and it's an extensive playbook. I know. The guys 571 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: are really grinding movement. You know, the guys a line 572 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: up in different positions. Um. And I think that's been 573 00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: expressed by coach. Um. You know, both the coordinator and 574 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: uh coach table um that they want guys who can 575 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: do a lot. Uh you hear Leo s coming in 576 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: the background. You get good scream, good scream. You want 577 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: guys to do a lot, and so they're gonna do 578 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: a lot of offense. I'm very impressive. You could knew 579 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: who the scream was without even turning around without Julia. 580 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Man, We appreciate it, Julia Love, thank you, 581 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: thank you. Now we're joined by Giants cornerback Darnie Holmes. Darny, 582 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: how are you, man? How you doing? Pleasure? Pleasure being 583 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: here being no thanks for being with me, man, all right, 584 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: what has it been like for you playing in this 585 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: wink Martin Dale defense? Is this harkening back to some 586 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: of the stuff you did back in college as compared 587 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: to me what you did in the scheme the last 588 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah. Definitely, like the way he got 589 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: things going. Definitely like where the Titus rolling toys, and 590 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: just the way he coaches the way that other coaches 591 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: are coaching. Just something that's easy to buy into and 592 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: definitely something that if you have the the traits that 593 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: his defense has, is definitely something that's suitable for you. Yeah. 594 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: We were just talking to a dory and he said, look, Corners, 595 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: we know you. We want to be told go cover 596 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 1: that dude, like, not gonna have a ton of help 597 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: your man on man, You're gonna cover them. That is 598 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: that something that you embrace to Yeah, definitely something I've 599 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: embraced since I've been playing his cornerback position. So just 600 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: having that freedom to go do that and having that 601 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: ability to go do that, it's a blessing. I asked 602 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: the story too, So what does it take to be 603 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: a good pressman cover corner Really? Just I would say technique, 604 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, I discipline and having that short play mentality 605 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: and going up there with the mentality of you gotta 606 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: deal with me. You know, I'm not going up there 607 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: and being afraid of the opponent and just focus on 608 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: the opponent movements. What's the Wink Martindale experience like as 609 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinat is he is he fun to play for? Yeah? 610 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: Definitely love uh love what you bringing it to the table? Why? 611 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: Just who he is as a person. You know, he 612 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: has great morals as a person and the values of 613 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: his defense is something that you could lean upon outside 614 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: of football, you know, So just what he got going 615 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: on is something that we definitely love to buy into 616 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: when we're excited to see how far we could take. 617 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: It has been mostly slot work for you this offseason, 618 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: working outside to uh, some slot work uh and some 619 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: primary outside where guys well. So it's been a balance. 620 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: Definitely been a balance. I know you've done both. You 621 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: didn't do much slot working college, you've done that in 622 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Are you equally comfortable on 623 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: both now? Doesn't really matter you're any more given how 624 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: much you've done both. Yeah, where I'm at, uh, in 625 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: my state of mind, I'm definitely comfortable with both. Definitely 626 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: comfortable with the nickel spot. Just having that two years 627 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: under my belt. You know, everything in life takes experience, 628 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: So having the experience of playing nickel and having the 629 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: bumps of playing nickel, I'm definitely more comfortable and definitely 630 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: not adopt the liabilities that come with the nickel position. 631 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: You know, I've watched the tape last year. Second know 632 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: the answer to this, but I'll ask anyway, have you 633 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: come to embrace the physical portions of that nickel role 634 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: that maybe are are quite as as prominent as part 635 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: of it when you're playing outside. Yeah, definitely definitely coming 636 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: embrace that you're pretty much the linebacker. You know, It's 637 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: a lot that comes with it, you know, the changes 638 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: of the number count, Uh, just engaging and disengaging box 639 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: and just being somebody who's dirty up in there. So 640 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: it's something definitely exciting, Definitely something you've got to train 641 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: and something you gotta really just work upon each and 642 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: every day. You have to set the edge sometimes man 643 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: offensive tackles rolling your way or a tight end. You know, 644 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: they got forty pounds on you, but you're, like I said, 645 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: I see you do it like you're you're you're willing 646 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: to go in there and then take that hit. Yeah, 647 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: just being a team player, you know, having guys like 648 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: Leo doing it day and day out as ease doing 649 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: the day and day out and those guys doing that, 650 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: and be able to just to wash them when they train, 651 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: when I have some off time to see how they 652 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: do things and how they're able to just to have 653 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: that extension. That's the biggest thing that I learned is 654 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: having that extension. Not being to engage and having an 655 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: off arm off and not being two hands. That's when 656 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: you get caught up in the mix. And you can't 657 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: get off things, and that's when you gotta come out 658 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: the huddle and fix your fixture. Jersey. The next play 659 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: now we've seen last year has to do it too. 660 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: But I gotta imagine you're probably gonna get sent on. 661 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: Blitz is a little bit more this year based on 662 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: what Week likes to do. Is that something that gets 663 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: you excited a chance to get after that quarterback? Yeah, definitely, 664 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: definitely the other system that Week got going on. I 665 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: feel like it's something that plays into my abilities and 666 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm just excited to see what the future holds. Looking 667 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: at your first two years and last year too, heading 668 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: into this offseason, what was on your kind of punch 669 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: list of things that you wanted to really focus on 670 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: to try to improve on as a football player. I 671 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: would say just the study of the game, you know, 672 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: studying of my movements, my mechanics, and really having that 673 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: intuition of understanding that when you're a ball player you 674 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: do something wrong, your gut knows what you did wrong, 675 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: So leaning upon that and really just being uh, still 676 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: being coached, still being a sponge, you know. And I'm 677 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: excited for the new system and excited how far we 678 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: could take it. As I said before, So you guys 679 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: have a pretty young group in that room. Is it 680 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: fun to kind of, you know, learn with the other 681 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: young guys and you know, it's like, I don't know 682 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: a young gum, but this is your third year. You're 683 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: basically a vent, right Is it fun kind of learning 684 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: the system together and getting the group going at the 685 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: same time. Here, you know, without a gut, you know, 686 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: you don't have a bunch of guys in the room 687 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: with a lot of starting experience in the NFL. Yeah, 688 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: it's definitely exciting, you know because then there it's always 689 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: an uphill battle and we're going through this battle together. 690 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: Having a doy and the most pivotal person in our 691 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: room is definitely coach wrong, you know, he's a vital 692 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: piece to our puzzle and just having experience his is 693 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: them and his coaching techniques. Room is just blessed to 694 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: have those guys up been there. Hasn't been easier for 695 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: you to adjust to this new system because Jerome Henderson 696 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: is still in that room with you from last year, 697 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: so he knows all about you, how you learn, how 698 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: you communicate, so he can teach you this new system 699 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: in the way that he knows you can learn it. Yeah, definitely, 700 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: definitely like that point of view, and also just understanding 701 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: that he's learning the system too, you know. So it's 702 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: a blessing just to have people around who's telling you 703 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: different ways to understand this defense, different ways that they're 704 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: studying the defense, and different ways that they see the 705 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: defense how to how to play it. So just giving 706 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: that insight and taking the knits and bits that you 707 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: need to take and incorporate it to the game allows 708 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: us to play fast and allow us to really be 709 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: more free flowing. Now since we've been here for a minute, 710 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: we actually got a cool graphs of the defense. You know, 711 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: it's still a lot of grooving that we gotta do 712 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: at game time comes around, but I feel like we've 713 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: got a cool little head start on what what we 714 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: could take it take it to do. You see this 715 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: as a year for you to really put your foot 716 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: down and establish yourself as a guy. Yeah, look, you 717 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: can trust in me as a starter, grow out there 718 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: and put me on this dude. I want to cover 719 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: them because, you know, the last couple of years, of 720 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: all the veterans you've been in out you know, sometimes 721 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of playing times some games you 722 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: haven't do. You really see this as a time for 723 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: you to, you know, put your stamp on yourself. Darny 724 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Holmes really good NFL cornerback. Yeah, and the mentality that 725 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: I've been taking as just you know, being a closer, 726 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, being a cleaner, and just having an undeniable 727 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: game play. You know, when you put that film on, 728 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: he's seeing thirty flying across making plays. You see thirty 729 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: being the team player. You see thirty doing things that 730 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: other people may not be able to do, you know, 731 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: and just going out there and just being my best self. 732 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, I'm a 733 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: type person who knows my word. For now, it's really 734 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: just proving to myself into the world and displaying that 735 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: work that I know that I got within. Great stuff. Man, 736 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: we can't wait to see on the field. Get that opportunity. 737 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing you in the July right, 738 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: no doubt appreciate you don't miss your chance to experience 739 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: a premier hospitality experience watching Giants games world class concerts 740 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: in two as a Giant Sweet partner. Limited full season 741 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: locations are available or plays a deposit for individual games 742 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: called n y is a Giants dot com slash suites 743 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: for more information. We continue our parade of cornerbacks here 744 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: and now we're joined by second year corner Aaron Robinson. Aaron, 745 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: how are you, man? It's good to see you. I'm 746 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: good and everything's good. Good. What has it been like 747 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: trying to learn Wink Martindale's defense here in in your 748 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: number two? It's been pretty fun, actually, you know, it's 749 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: coming along well. Uh, you know, just learning it with 750 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: the guy has been pretty fun. And Antna, what is 751 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: it about this system and the way he wants you 752 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: to play that appeals to you as a cornerback? Uh? 753 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, just to go out there and do my 754 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: job and cover, you know, as a cornerback and everything 755 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: else to take care of us. So you know, two 756 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: years ago when you were at the Senior Boar, we 757 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: went down and watched your play and the one thing 758 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: I walked away seeing you play the one on ones 759 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: in practice was that dude likes to be physical with 760 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, right, you like getting there hitting 761 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: people at the line. I got to imagine the amount 762 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: of press man that Wink martin Dale is going to 763 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: ask you to do. I gotta imagine that it really 764 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: fits your skill set well, doesn't it. I like to 765 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: think so, you know, Um, I like to think of 766 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: myself as a you know, a gritty guy, physical guy, 767 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, definitely a perfect opportunity to go 768 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: out there and so okay, stuff, What do you think 769 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: makes you a good press man, physical corner really just 770 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, being a cornerback. You know you you always 771 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: is always you know fee you know, odds and hands 772 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: and um, you know, just just those attributes alone, you know, 773 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: I try to work on those day in and day 774 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: out and pretty much just you know, the physicality and 775 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: everything else follow up with no Unfortunately, because of the 776 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: core muscle injury, you can kind of late start last year. 777 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: Right when you were a chance to look back at 778 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: your year, where were you happy about the things that 779 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: you're able to do in the limited playing time you 780 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: did get in that second half of the year, right? Um, 781 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was just just happy to be back 782 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: out there with the guys, you know, um, contributing the 783 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: best way I could anyway I could, and uh, you know, 784 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: just being able to have fun with the game again. Um, 785 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: and that that right there alone was was pretty exciting. 786 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: To me, now, based on your experience then heading into 787 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: this offseason, what were some of the areas of the 788 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: game where you're like, all right, I really want to 789 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: work on a B or C heading into my second year, right, Um, 790 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: you know there's always improvement in every angle of my game, 791 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: I feel like, but you know, most importantly being a dB, 792 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: you know ball skills, you know, definitely those ball skills, um, 793 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: and just just you know, learning the game or now 794 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: heading into your second year. In your first year last year, 795 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: when you know Pat was here and Joe was here, 796 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: you did a lot of slot work, right, you put 797 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: a lot inside This year in practice, you're starting outside corner, 798 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: you're lining up near the boundary, you're manning up wide receivers. 799 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: What's the biggest difference for you and how you approach 800 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: it in your technique when you're playing the outside spot 801 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: versus the slot what you did a lot of last year? Yeah? 802 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: You know, uh, in the slot, you know you're pretty 803 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: much lining up against you know, the sifty guys, you know, 804 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: the faster guys, and the two way goes on, right right, right? 805 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: More agreed to work with and um on the outside 806 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: of you know, bigger physical guys, you also have the 807 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: sideline to work with, so that helps, and um, you 808 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: know it kind of just narrows it down, you know, 809 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: from from all the extra field you know you have 810 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: to work with, so that that pretty much helps. Yeah, 811 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: I gotta imagine having that sideline there, right and if 812 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: you have to play press man, you're in an insight 813 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: technique that that it almost gives you your leverage right 814 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: where you have that sideline to help you a little bit. 815 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: What is it about? Um? This group is a secondary 816 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: that has you excited that you think you guys can 817 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: be effective as a unit this year. Uh you know 818 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: that you know, still a young group. Um, but you 819 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: know the energy is always there. We're always rooting for 820 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: each other, um, you know, motivating and pushing each other. 821 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, go out there each and every day, Uh, 822 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, be the best version of ourselves and you 823 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: know we want to see each other win and go 824 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: out there and do good. So that right there just 825 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, kind of motivates us as a unit. And um, 826 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: you know for the task at hand. Really, what's the 827 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: room like? Are you guys getting on each other? Why 828 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: is it a lot of fun in there? How do 829 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: you guys interact with each other in that meeting room. Yeah, 830 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: definitely fun. Um, you know, we coach each other up, 831 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, let each other know what we see. Uh, 832 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, just give problems when it when it's due 833 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: and um, you know, like I said, we're always you know, 834 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: excited for each other and uh, you know, wanting to 835 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: learn from each other. Most importantly, how important was it 836 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: for your development? Where even though you're changing systems right 837 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: from last year this year, Jerome Henderson is still here? Right, 838 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: how important has it been to have him? Is that 839 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: kind of piece of continuity to help you kind of 840 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: help you get used to this new system in your 841 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: second year? Yeah, you know, coach Ron's a very good guy. 842 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: You know, I love him as a coach, you know, um, 843 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: as a person and you know last year playing a 844 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: little bit of corner I did. Uh, he definitely helped 845 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: me a lot, you know, transition into uh, you know, 846 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: professional football playing corner and um, you know him being 847 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: here for my second year helps a lot, uh, you 848 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: know because he kind of you know, pretty much knows 849 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: what to expect of me and um and the standards 850 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: you know always how you know, being in this professor, 851 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: So it definitely helps a lot. How much better prepared 852 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: do you feel actually having a full offseason where you're healthy, 853 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: being do all this stuff as opposed to last year 854 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: and your sidelined. How much more prepared do you feel 855 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: to step in and be a good NFL player in 856 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: your second year versus all the stuff you have to 857 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: go through as a rookie with the injury. Yeah, I'm 858 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: not just learning from a mental standpoint, you know, Um, 859 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm able to do it physically, you know, hands on 860 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: with it this year around. Um, and you know that 861 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: helps a lot. Uh, you know, I can ask questions, 862 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: I can you know, go out there and mess up 863 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: and learn from that and uh, you know, just me 864 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: feeling like on my hands on learner being out there 865 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: physically or being able to be out there physically helps 866 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: a lot with that. So final question, I always talk 867 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: to the old wine d line about this. You know, 868 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: the old lineman hate the spring stuff because there's no pads, 869 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: they can't hit anybody. For you is a cornerback though, 870 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: How does it change for you? Is it is it 871 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: tough for you to to do this stuff in the 872 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: spring when you don't have pads on, you can't really 873 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: have as much physical contact. Are you looking forward to 874 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: the summer when you can get back here and it's 875 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot more like real football when you start going 876 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: up against these wide receivers. UM, it's definitely tough, you 877 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: know a little bit. You know, you you were taught 878 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: as dbs, you know, the UM to get hands on 879 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: and you know, to play through receivers and whatnot. So 880 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: it's definitely, you know, definitely have to remind yourself day 881 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: in and day out. But you also, you know, working 882 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: good technique UM and good habits as well. So I 883 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: mean it has its pros and cons, but you know 884 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: that's that's what it. There is this time around, and 885 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: you know you always adjust to adversity in and you know, 886 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: learn from whatever the situation is. Quick follow up. How 887 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: does this coaching staff coach the ball skill stuff? I 888 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: know some people in the press, man, I know in 889 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: New England there, their big method is that they teach 890 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: them to watch the wide receivers I and arms. When 891 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: the arms comes up, you attack the arms as the 892 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: ball comes down, right, or do they teach you to 893 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: actually get your head around to try to locate the 894 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: ball in the air. How do they kind of teach 895 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: you guys in this particular scheme the ball stuff and 896 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: picking it up at the catch point and trying to 897 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: make plays on the ball, right you know, um, definitely, 898 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: definitely you know it, know what routes to expect, you know, 899 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: kind of just go through your progression and then um, 900 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, from that point you pretty much know when 901 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: you want to you know, locate the receiver, squeeze to 902 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: the sideline and look back for the ball and from 903 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: that point you're just ball in the sea. Ball, good ball, 904 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: good stuff. Can't wait to see on the field of 905 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 1: some of that. Thank you. Now we're joined by Giants 906 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,959 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback Cordell Flat Couardell, how are you? Man? Are good? 907 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: How was the last two months for you? Been swimming 908 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: here trying to figure out what's going on in the NFL. 909 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: It's definitely been great. It's definitely a good expense. You know, 910 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: I've been in the city and you working. Just see 911 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: how proud for the fans are about the organization and 912 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: how proud for we are as you know players to 913 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: you know be at a so a good impact and 914 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: a positive brand for his organization. So I'm very excited 915 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: about this. You know, the first person that really mentioned 916 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: being in New York. How is it the football side? 917 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: Just how have you liked the area so far? Yeah? 918 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: I love the area, especially the skyline view. Like I'm 919 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: from Mobile, Alabama, so we there's nothing similar down there 920 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: to anything up here. So it's definitely a new experience 921 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: and a new field for things. Yeah. Where have you settling? 922 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: Where have I settled in? Uh? Jersey, Jersey? Jersey? Very good? 923 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: Very good? All right, so let's talk about it. Um 924 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: scheme wise, what do you think of Wink Mortondale and 925 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: what he's trying to do with the defense. I love 926 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: Wink as a defensive corner. You know, he's very I 927 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: can get along with him, and I'm sure most of 928 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: the whole defense can get along Wink. You know, he's 929 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: a good guy who care about you outside of football 930 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: rather than just football specifically. So, but other than the 931 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: um the scheme and stuff, I'm very you know, I'm 932 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: happy to be in this game as a nickel as 933 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: a corner for versatility to being able to fly around 934 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: his defense. He liked to play fast, simple, So excited? 935 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: Have you mostly been doing nickel stuff? You've been working 936 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: outside too, I've been working on both really more comfortable 937 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: right now. More comfortable, I say, Nickel and you know different, 938 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: not do different though, Yeah, that makes sense. How much 939 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: has Dorry Jackson been helpful and trying to kind of 940 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: get you used to and even Darnay and Naron who 941 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: have been here, they're young veterans kind of getting used 942 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: to what it means to play corner in the NFL. 943 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: They are, they all young veterans, but they all got 944 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot of experience on their bills. So it's definitely 945 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 1: some guys I can learn from and just talk to them. 946 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: You know, they helped me find the routine, you know, 947 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: find what works best for me. Helping me find out ways, 948 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, I can take care of my body or 949 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: ways they did in the past, or give me some 950 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: tips from their rookie year on how on what they 951 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: messed up on, what they're gonna do better on. So 952 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 1: definitely experience to learn from. Man. I like, I'm thankful 953 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: for those guys in the room now, he said, the 954 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: corners all off playing for Wink. Well, he don't take 955 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: it easy on you guys now, because he's gonna blitz 956 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: a lot and he's gonna put you all out on islands. 957 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna say you're gonna cover and you would not 958 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: even have a safety behind you. Is that something that 959 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 1: you get excited about? You embrace that? Yeah, I embrace 960 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: as dB because you know that's the one thing we 961 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, come here to do is cover. So whatever 962 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: scheme we call, whatever played we called, we're gonna execute 963 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: it and do I bess I can't, we can't. Now 964 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: you're a long guy. So for you, what do you 965 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: have to do well to be a successful press man? Quarter? 966 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: What I'll do else to be successful pression man corners? 967 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: You know, as I'm using my link and my ability 968 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: to get hands on guys. You know in the NFL 969 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: it changed with the rules again hands on with the 970 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: five up to five yards, So that's differently something I'm 971 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: working on now. You know that's gonna be a craft. 972 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: I had to you know, strength and going to a 973 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,919 Speaker 1: count and through our count. So I definitely I'm gonna 974 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: work on that for sure. And that changes the way 975 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: you handle the catchpoint to right that you can't be 976 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: in contact the whole way. You kind of have to 977 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 1: figure out how to time when you can then contact 978 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: the wide receiver again, right exactly? So what are some 979 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: of the technique things that they've been teaching you of 980 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: of how to be ready at that catchpoint, at that 981 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: cass point. Just being able to you know, absorb the receiver, 982 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, don't use your hand first, use your fee first, 983 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, being able to move put your body in 984 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: the best position, and different leverages and coverage. So yeah, 985 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: so what are you gonna be working on the next 986 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: six weeks? Now, you guys gonna leave, You're gonna be 987 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: rookie stare a little bit longer. But when you're off 988 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: and then you want to come back, what are you 989 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: gonna try to do? So when you get back here 990 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: for training camp and the July, you're ripped, roaring ready 991 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna work on my batty. 992 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: You know, I want to continue to add muscle a 993 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: more masks, you know, so I can protect myself and 994 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: be able to go throughout a long season here, um 995 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: find ways that you know, recovering risks, you know, that's 996 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: a big part of performance. So yeah, that's what I 997 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: focused on doing, getting a routine going as well. So yeah, 998 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: quite a nice to meet you, man, I appreciate it. 999 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: That's the one this year. Thank you. All right. Now 1000 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: we're joined by rookie Giant safety Dame Belton Daant. Good 1001 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: to meet you, man. How are you. I'm doing well? 1002 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: How about your so? So, I know in this defense, 1003 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: especially in the back end, they throw all out at you. 1004 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: So what has it been like trying to absorb that 1005 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: for the past two months since you've been drafted. It's 1006 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: been a lot. But I feel like it's going well. 1007 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like, you know, we have really 1008 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: good coaches and you know, just trying to accept all 1009 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: the coach and I can get from them and try 1010 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: to apply it to the field. So, you know, I'm 1011 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: just taking it a stride at the time and just 1012 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: trying to do my best. Now, you come from a 1013 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: program in Iowa that's almost run like a pro program. 1014 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: Quirk Friends has a lot of NFL experience, So do 1015 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: you think that's made the transition for you a little 1016 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: bit smoother? Oh? Definitely. You know, anytime you can get 1017 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: that little experience and talking to guys that you know, 1018 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: I've been, you know to this point, you know, just 1019 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: trying to get picked a brand on how it is, 1020 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: it's definitely helped. And you know, I feel like the 1021 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: way our program is Ran and the coaches we have 1022 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: definitely helped for sure. Yeah. We had coach friends on 1023 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 1: one of our podcasts to talk about you a couple 1024 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and he spoke lonely about your intellect 1025 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: and your approach to the game mentally. Can you just 1026 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: talk about that approach for you and how you try 1027 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: to absorb everything so you can maximize your ability on 1028 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, I feel like for me that's the 1029 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: biggest thing. You know, I feel like the hwer you 1030 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: get in football. You know, everyone's athletic, everyone's talented, so 1031 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: you know what's gonna what are you gonna do to 1032 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: separate yourself? So for me, you know, just trying to 1033 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: steady of the game or you know, try to pick 1034 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: up on key tendencies, pick up my offenses. And I 1035 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, that's what got me here, and 1036 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: that's what if you know, if I'm gonna be successful 1037 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: as what I'm gonna continue to do, so you know, 1038 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: that's a huge part of my game. Now, you played 1039 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 1: a very unique position in college and a lot of 1040 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: the programs having now and everyone calls it something else 1041 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: I think called the cash position and Idowa right, Can 1042 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: you just explain the fans exactly what your role was 1043 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: in that cash position as the safety in Iowa. Yeah, 1044 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: in that position, you know is any time we are 1045 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: facing the past heavy team, you know, I'll go down 1046 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,479 Speaker 1: to kind of a nicke role what we call cash 1047 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: and really just called upon you know, the guard slot receivers, 1048 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, occasionally playing the box. You know, have to tackle, 1049 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: set edges on the on run games and do a 1050 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 1: multitude of things. You know. I feel like that was 1051 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: just a testament to you know, our coaching staff, fan 1052 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: my me using my universatility. I gotta imagine that's a challenge, right, 1053 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: because you have to be big enough to set the 1054 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: edge and tackle running backs one on one. But at 1055 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: the same time you gotta cover this like four or 1056 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: four four, five ten slot guy that that that that's 1057 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 1: a jitterbug. So how do you manage to balance those 1058 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: two things and keep your game flexible enough where you 1059 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: can kind of play both those roles effectively. Yeah, it's 1060 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: really all about versatility, you know, Like you said, you know, 1061 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: you have different different tasks that require you know, my 1062 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: different type of body. So really just you know, trying 1063 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: to be as fast as I can, but also you know, 1064 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: keep size and be able to do both. So you know, 1065 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: and specifically when we play certain teams, you know, you 1066 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: know what you're about to get into. You know, you 1067 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: know the offense with what they're gonna do, so you 1068 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: know that helps. But also you know, teams trying to 1069 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, mess with you, you know, trying to give 1070 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: me in the box a lot and really just you know, 1071 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: relying on technique, you know, relying on playing my my 1072 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: assignment and just you know, playing football. How do you 1073 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: see your that role developing here with the Giants, with 1074 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: the way Wink wants to use the safeties, Yeah, you know, 1075 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: I feel like it definitely translates, you know, the way 1076 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: you know Wink likes to blitz dbs and being able 1077 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: to do that, but also you know play man and 1078 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: man coverage and playing the post and do a lot 1079 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,439 Speaker 1: of things with the safety. So you know, I feel 1080 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: like that's what I'm trying to do, trying to translate 1081 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: my game and the best way I can. What do 1082 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: you think your bigger strength is right now? What do 1083 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: you think your best at? I feel like you know 1084 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm best at you know, just trying to understand, you know, 1085 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: a defense and just trying to trying to get people 1086 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: in place, you know. I feel like that's what I'm 1087 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: working on a lot right now, you know, with this 1088 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: new playbook. But I feel like the more comfortable I get, 1089 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: the better I will be at doing that. So just 1090 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, trying to be a commanding voice in the 1091 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 1: in the back end. What's the key to being a 1092 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: good man on man slot corner? Yeah, I feel like 1093 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: it's all about feet, you know, movement, you know, understanding 1094 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: where your leverage is that and utilizing that. You know, 1095 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: I feel like this game is all about space and 1096 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: people try to get you in space, So understanding what 1097 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: it helps that leverage and using your feet. Finally, you 1098 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: have two young veterans in your safety room with your 1099 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: Julian Love and Davie McKinney, who can do a lot 1100 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: of the same versatile things that you can. How have 1101 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: they tried to help you along and guide you so 1102 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: you are ready to roll when you get the camp 1103 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: in the season starts. Oh man, They've helped me tremendously, 1104 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, both of those guys, you know, being able 1105 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: to be there when I have any question I have 1106 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: and just rely on them to you know, pick their brain. 1107 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: And see what they see and just things like that 1108 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: and just trying to get all the information I can. 1109 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 1: And you know, they've been so helpful in my time, 1110 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, so far, and I only see that, you know, 1111 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: continuing saying good stuff. We appreciate the time, best luck, 1112 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you man, great conversations. We thank the 1113 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: guys for joining us on this epiod. So to the 1114 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,720 Speaker 1: Giant Subtle Podcast. I'm John Schmulk. Remember to stay tuned, folks, 1115 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: Make sure you go back into the archive find all. 1116 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: The episode is really good insight from all these players. 1117 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: They give you a really good feel for what this 1118 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: Giant's offensive and defensive systems are going to be and 1119 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: where the team is heading into training camp. I'm John Schmilk. 1120 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: Stay tuned to the Giant Subtle Podcast. We'll see you 1121 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: next time.