Speaker 1: Look mare, oh, I see you my own and look
Speaker 1: over there is that culture.
Speaker 2: Yes, goodness, wow, lost cult.
Speaker 1: Ding dong lost culturistas calling.
Speaker 3: I just bodied today's Connections on the New York Times
Speaker 3: games app literally in fifteen seconds. While we were setting
Speaker 3: up for this, I was like, wait, just now, just now,
Speaker 3: record time, Whina Liu, you don't have it today?
Speaker 4: Can I say, I love how activated you get about
Speaker 4: these things?
Speaker 3: Honey, join the club. I mean you have to start
Speaker 3: playing Connections. Sometimes she tries it, Whina, Oh, well, I
Speaker 3: know you've really come for her before. Can I just
Speaker 3: say I have this obsession. We need to like do
Speaker 3: a cultural like examination of like Asian women at the
Speaker 3: New York Times because they are powerful. From Michiko Kakutani
Speaker 3: to Wina Liu, these women hold the keys.
Speaker 4: If you think that I forgot when you did an
Speaker 4: impression of Michigo Kokatani in your SNL. Did you actually
Speaker 4: do Michigo Kakatani for your SNL auditions?
Speaker 1: Yes? And I said this is for everyone.
Speaker 3: Eric Henward, producer Little Harvard guy, was like, I really
Speaker 3: liked her, Michiko.
Speaker 1: Damn. And I went in there and did Anthony and
Speaker 1: didn't book what do you know you didn't hander to
Speaker 1: the to the Harvard Boys.
Speaker 4: That was my rob That's my big issue was I
Speaker 4: can only be me a gay guy, white gay guy
Speaker 4: down with us all, but not our guests.
Speaker 1: But not our guest, can I say?
Speaker 4: First of all, just like catching up on music, I
Speaker 4: was side eyeing this Camilla era and now I'm bopping
Speaker 4: my head.
Speaker 1: I think he knows I want to play when I'm.
Speaker 4: Like that, I was side eyeing that era. I was
Speaker 4: side eyeing it. I actually refused to acknowledge it as culture.
Speaker 4: Now the second thing that's come out, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: maybe I think she.
Speaker 3: Knows well, you know, she is doing this thing really well,
Speaker 3: which is and they've talked about this on podcast Deluxe
Speaker 3: where they talked about pop music. I think we'd all
Speaker 3: like it. Everyone in the zoom. Yeah, they're like the
Speaker 3: thing with the Dua album And even though I adore
Speaker 3: the Dua album is it's slippery, there's no like meme
Speaker 3: mobility to it. Like it needs some edge, it needs
Speaker 3: some like it needs a rough service. It needs like serration,
Speaker 3: like a serrated edge.
Speaker 1: You know, Camila is very serrated.
Speaker 3: Yes, because like even from like I love it, I
Speaker 3: love it. I love it like even that is like, well.
Speaker 1: This is going to do numbers, you know. Do you
Speaker 1: did you see the clip of Lonna Delray weekend? Yes?
Speaker 4: Hello, this is last Culturistas. You are joining us in process,
Speaker 4: I only talk about Lonna Delray. This is called a
Speaker 4: Lonna Delray stand podcast. As of now you know she
Speaker 4: is nominated at the Culture Awards for Artists the Millennium
Speaker 4: and also Best New Artist. So this is an interesting
Speaker 4: turn for how you thought award shows could go and
Speaker 4: how nominations could go.
Speaker 1: But returning to the point.
Speaker 4: Did you see the second weekend of Coachella, Camula came
Speaker 4: out in the spot where Billy came out?
Speaker 1: So Ilana go is what I'm Referencingana goes, I love it,
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 4: And her like Lana sort of ghost whisper. It's actually
Speaker 4: a real culture number eighteen. La.
Speaker 1: That's a ghost Whispertesmas like Jennifer love you It before her.
Speaker 3: Like Jennifer loves you It before her. This is a
Speaker 3: Lana del Race dam podcast. This is also a Honeymoon
Speaker 3: stand podcast.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you, Oh my god, it sucks to
Speaker 4: say this because I don't think it sucks to say it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm about to say, I don't think
Speaker 4: it's true. But I listened to this and I was like, finally, music,
Speaker 4: because there's been.
Speaker 1: So much music.
Speaker 4: But finally I was like, you know, and what I
Speaker 4: think I mean by that is I was like, this
Speaker 4: is taking you back to the seventies FM. This is
Speaker 4: very John Denver vibes. The vocal harmony. The man has
Speaker 4: the best voice in the business.
Speaker 3: If you thought he laughs, Oh a gay guy can't
Speaker 3: make a Judy Sill album. Oh a gay guy can't
Speaker 3: make a Paul Simon album. You're dead wrong.
Speaker 1: Here's what i'd say.
Speaker 4: Hey, stream Honeymond, you can now because it's out actually
Speaker 4: as hell.
Speaker 1: And here's the other deal.
Speaker 4: So today's actually an auspicious day bo because today, for
Speaker 4: the first time in Last Culturesa's history, we're doing a
Speaker 4: double episode release. Oh so if you're listening to this
Speaker 4: right now, after this, you can listen to our episode
Speaker 4: with Charlie XCX, who has an album coming up this weekend.
Speaker 4: But out right now is Honeymind, Honey Mind, And this
Speaker 4: is it's just it's music. What can I say, It's
Speaker 4: it's just if you put it on, you will feel
Speaker 4: every emotion. I was crying not but third five minutes
Speaker 4: ago to the song boy who hung the moon, boy
Speaker 4: who hung the moon, I said, to be in love. Oh,
Speaker 4: what's it like? Let's we can ask him. Well, we'll
Speaker 4: ask him. That'll be the first question.
Speaker 1: He's getting married, Oh.
Speaker 4: My god, having everyone's dream wedding. I'm sure now listen,
Speaker 4: he he knows, it's true.
Speaker 1: I think he knows.
Speaker 4: Anyway, listen, but he's a performing at the palace, he's
Speaker 4: at a residency right now.
Speaker 1: You can go. I'm gonna go next week. My mom
Speaker 1: is excited. I'm taking her, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And that would be a gift that you give yourself
Speaker 4: to go, because I mean every single time I've and
Speaker 4: by every single time, I mean I went to go
Speaker 4: see Parade twice because I just could not believe how
Speaker 4: fucking incredible that show was.
Speaker 1: Ray to me.
Speaker 4: That was that should have been the Tony win all respect,
Speaker 4: all respect, that's where that should have gone for me.
Speaker 4: But it did win Best Revival, and we love that.
Speaker 4: And I will say, just every single time you can
Speaker 4: see this person before you were, you are giving yourself
Speaker 4: a gift. So give your off a gift and go
Speaker 4: see him at the palace because just so good.
Speaker 1: So good.
Speaker 3: We love him so much. Everyone welcome, and what.
Speaker 5: You guys, what's so nice? It's like being John Denver.
Speaker 5: Oh it's great, you know. Noah, it's the best.
Speaker 1: He is the best.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you said he was gonna cameo. Yeah, he's on
Speaker 5: his way home right now. And so there'll probably be
Speaker 5: some barks from dog George and then so, okay, hello
Speaker 5: us from Noah at some point.
Speaker 1: So just don't get to a jarred by the bark
Speaker 1: barks by dog George. Well, speaking of.
Speaker 3: Your home, and I brought this up to you the
Speaker 3: last time we saw each other, Ben, But how does
Speaker 3: it feel to know that my dear mother mangs who
Speaker 3: has technically been inside your house?
Speaker 1: Wait, tell me? Did I tell you about this?
Speaker 3: No, there was an open house and my broker, Rodney Rose,
Speaker 3: who's an icon, took my mom to go. She was like,
Speaker 3: let's go look at these like really fun places. I
Speaker 3: won't see the neighborhood, but she's like, let's go look
Speaker 3: at these One place is and then went.
Speaker 1: To this beautiful home.
Speaker 3: My mom was like, wow, that was a really nice place.
Speaker 3: And then not like two months later did Ronnie reach
Speaker 3: out and this might not have been well, maybe I'll
Speaker 3: cut this out, but she was like, I think your
Speaker 3: friend Bend. Your friend Bend's now is like that's great anyway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we just moved in March. So we're in Brooklyn
Speaker 5: people now, and it's really nice. Noah has been trying
Speaker 5: to get me out of Manhattan for a long time.
Speaker 5: How does Brooklyn feel so good? I mean it's like
Speaker 5: a little exhale, you know what I mean. Like you
Speaker 5: get off the train and it's like a little less
Speaker 5: crazy and intense. It's a once hop skipping a jump
Speaker 5: one train right to the middle of the Broadway areas.
Speaker 5: It's nice, feels removed, but not in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: It's lovely. There are children.
Speaker 5: There's a Presbyterian school outside and they play at recess
Speaker 5: every day. It's you hear the sounds of laughter, young
Speaker 5: we throw volleyballs back from the backyard.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 4: Do you really, Oh God, that's gonna get annoying and quick.
Speaker 4: It's cute right now.
Speaker 1: It already is annoying.
Speaker 4: My favorite thing about you guys is I've run into
Speaker 4: you guys in Times Square like three Times Wait, same, because.
Speaker 1: They're always chaunting around Times Square. We're all three very
Speaker 1: consistent patrons of the theater, and so that's why Square.
Speaker 4: I forget what show I was going to see, but
Speaker 4: I think you guys were going to see another show.
Speaker 4: And I was like, look at us out here. Always
Speaker 4: the biggest smiles on our face is ready to consume.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the happiest time when you can stay hopeful
Speaker 5: before you've actually seen the show.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 4: Yeah, big We was on the Broadway front though Audre
Speaker 4: and Gypsy. Are we excited or why?
Speaker 1: God? Wait, this isn't contil next week? It comes out
Speaker 1: on yes, next ween?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, well fifth, So I'm doing a special guest
Speaker 5: every night in my uh at my house theater gig.
Speaker 5: I had Casey Musgraves and christ and Shannow with was
Speaker 5: last night. So this weekend I have Dear Adrian Warren,
Speaker 5: who's like, oh, and before I knew about any of
Speaker 5: this Audre nonsense, we're gonna sing if mom was married
Speaker 5: from Gypsy.
Speaker 1: We're going to do like the two Sisters.
Speaker 5: And I was like, girl, you should be playing Louise
Speaker 5: in this revival? Is she like, I don't know I
Speaker 5: don't know, Absolutelysia. Can you imagine that turn that changed too?
Speaker 1: That would be incredible, just saying if it was. If
Speaker 1: George Wolf is listening, which I'm sure he is.
Speaker 3: George, I thought you were to say that Audrey was
Speaker 3: going to join you for one of the Palace shows.
Speaker 1: I tried. She has her own concert gigs. She can't
Speaker 1: make it. That's the thing about Audre.
Speaker 4: She's busy singing her on her own, and that's how
Speaker 4: she Rule of culture number fifty five, that's something about address.
Speaker 1: She's busy singing on her own.
Speaker 4: I love when the guest joins in on the real culture.
Speaker 4: It gives it an extra pathice. Thank you, Well it
Speaker 4: was about Audre. I felt that I.
Speaker 1: Got a license. You know what I mean? Absolutely? Do
Speaker 1: you There'll be a good guests besides Audre. Sorry, keep going,
Speaker 1: so wait, what can you spoil any that'll happen like
Speaker 1: what's happening tonight?
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, this is all just to say if nobody,
Speaker 5: like you know, get sick or something happens, it all
Speaker 5: goes to plan. Tonight is Leslie Odham Junior. Wow, tomorrow
Speaker 5: is my album release day. So it's Noah Galvin and
Speaker 5: we're gonna sing too most Wanted as my only Beyonce.
Speaker 1: You're fucking kidding? Oh wow, blew up our spot.
Speaker 4: There's big plans for a performance from that from the
Speaker 4: Culture Awards.
Speaker 5: I would have no doubt about that. On Saturday, we
Speaker 5: have a double WHAMMI planned. It's Rachel Zegler and then
Speaker 5: also my dear friend and co star from Avanhanson, Laura
Speaker 5: Dreyfus is going to sing with me. That'll be wonderful,
Speaker 5: It'll be fun. And then Sunday's Adrian Warren.
Speaker 1: Wow. So only the best, only the vocal chords, only
Speaker 1: the chords.
Speaker 3: Duh, and he's drinking his essentia like a chord singer.
Speaker 1: Leaders and leaders a day. You know, it was Ben
Speaker 1: who told the truth about vocal prep to the world,
Speaker 1: which is just have room temperature water. Stop with all
Speaker 1: the tea, stop with all the cold water, right, Isn't
Speaker 1: that so? It is true? Cold water fucks you up.
Speaker 5: It's like it makes everything like really crackly and like
Speaker 5: really dry, and it's got to be room temp.
Speaker 1: Although hot water with lemon's good for.
Speaker 4: Mucus, I will say that it's good for mucas, it's
Speaker 4: actually your lo coldre number ninety nine, although hot water
Speaker 4: with lemon is good for mucas.
Speaker 1: I will say I already have two rules. This is amazing,
Speaker 1: this is really you're a found Ben. What was Nashville
Speaker 1: like so nice?
Speaker 5: It's like weirdly slowly becoming la But besides that, it
Speaker 5: was so it was wonderful. I mean a lot of
Speaker 5: the writers I've been wanting to work with forever are
Speaker 5: all there. I found it like really calming, wonderful place
Speaker 5: to write. Also, I don't really know anyone else there
Speaker 5: besides the people that I was writing with, so it
Speaker 5: felt like very like blinders up, no distractions, like let
Speaker 5: me just immerse creatively in this and just only do this.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I loved it. Stim playing two shows there
Speaker 1: in June Nashville. Now tell me this. Did you go
Speaker 1: to the Grand all Opry. I've never been to the
Speaker 1: Grandel Lopry. That's okay. I'm playing the Rhymen though, so
Speaker 1: that's like second best. What's the Rymen?
Speaker 5: Ryman auditoriums like super you know, storied vibes like Casey
Speaker 5: just played there, and it's it's sort of if you're
Speaker 5: not going to play the Opry, it's like a really
Speaker 5: beautiful little country venue little more like traditional proscenium vibes.
Speaker 1: I want to know what is Casey like in person?
Speaker 4: Enchanting, enchanting, gorgeous, like a stoner. Yeah, I was going
Speaker 4: to ask, is she trying to corrupt you? Because I
Speaker 4: know how good you are when you have to use
Speaker 4: your voice. You don't even touch the stuff.
Speaker 1: No, she's the same when she has to sing.
Speaker 5: We have similar types of vocal anxiety, I think, but
Speaker 5: just like energetically like never gets above like a five
Speaker 5: in a really nice way, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, Just like really even identify with that.
Speaker 1: I'm never above a five. And then we are cool.
Speaker 5: We love a you know, a queen that sounds like
Speaker 5: the record always oh yeah, and she boy, does she
Speaker 5: sound like the record?
Speaker 1: She do?
Speaker 3: That's a tone Sarah burellis shit, oh crystal crystal crystal clear.
Speaker 4: So you are a consumer of the girls. So I
Speaker 4: want to know, like out of this like sort of
Speaker 4: like wealth of pop girly output lately, like what's written
Speaker 4: to the top for you?
Speaker 5: Okay, the honorable mentions are yeah, deeper, well, of course, yes,
Speaker 5: Cowboy Carter Delicious. The thing that I'm returning to the
Speaker 5: most is miss.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew you were going to say that. I
Speaker 4: knew you were going to say that, and I am
Speaker 4: classic it is.
Speaker 5: Every song is the most like fine tuned, like delicious, bubblegum,
Speaker 5: perfect pop melody, lyric ever, it's there. They're in my
Speaker 5: mind all the time, not in a way where you're like,
Speaker 5: get this song out of my mind, in a way
Speaker 5: where you're like, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Listen to that song right now. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I'm thrilled that The Boy's Mind is our next
Speaker 5: single because that was my favorite song from first listen. Yes,
Speaker 5: and I just think she's like the greatest pop stars generation.
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously we have feelings about Beyonce, and I
Speaker 5: don't even call it Beyonce like a pop starts a
Speaker 5: different situation, But in terms of like a pop star,
Speaker 5: she's number one of our lifetime.
Speaker 3: I think even intro end of the World is like,
Speaker 3: I'm going back to that all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do I know if I'm in the right relationship? Yeah,
Speaker 4: thank you for a thesis statement right up top, and
Speaker 4: then at the end, when no one answers the question,
Speaker 4: she says.
Speaker 1: You're in the wrong place. Get it out.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 4: It's also like genre wise, like it's so what I
Speaker 4: like started to wrap my brain around in terms of
Speaker 4: like why I love music like it does. It does
Speaker 4: remind me of Mariah and in like the late nineties,
Speaker 4: Like it takes me back to that, like just those rich, rich,
Speaker 4: rich like.
Speaker 1: Harmonies, the layers.
Speaker 4: Just there's so much in the music and it's just
Speaker 4: I love that it's like thirty six minutes long but
Speaker 4: tells like a complete story.
Speaker 1: It takes you on a journey.
Speaker 4: You really feel all of her emotions, to the point
Speaker 4: where towards the end when she's saying I wish I
Speaker 4: hated you. Oh, that's wrapping up that relationship in terms
Speaker 4: of how it appears on the album. Like just that
Speaker 4: last chorus that she sings like in her heart is
Speaker 4: breaking and her voice is breaking. I'm like, God, she
Speaker 4: fucking earned every second of this with what we've heard
Speaker 4: so far, like just amazing.
Speaker 5: And she's such a proponent for like I mean, first
Speaker 5: of all, obviously we know she's one of the great instruments,
Speaker 5: but her vocal ability to not necessarily mean just like
Speaker 5: foot on the gas, Like there's so many different things
Speaker 5: that she does that have so much restraint that take
Speaker 5: honestly of so much more ability that are so impressive,
Speaker 5: and then also production wise what you're saying about, like
Speaker 5: the Mariah of it all. I love when there's like
Speaker 5: electronic production elements that are like very self consciously retro electronic,
Speaker 5: like very clearly a button being pressed in a way
Speaker 5: that's like self aware.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like when it's not trying to pretend trying to pretend
Speaker 5: to be like a live room or like something warm,
Speaker 5: it's like, this is deeply fun and self aware, and
Speaker 5: like I just think that it's it's a home run
Speaker 5: on that front too.
Speaker 3: One thousand percent. But even on ordinary things, it's like
Speaker 3: that brass is like not totally like it belongs there.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, I love it, Like this is the
Speaker 3: perfect way to meld all of these different ideas, Like
Speaker 3: you get the vocal recording, the voice recording from Nona,
Speaker 3: and like it all just like it's complete. Like I'm
Speaker 3: all for a let's say, thirty track, two hour long album,
Speaker 3: let's say, but I really like how concise that whole
Speaker 3: album is, Like I really like I think when she
Speaker 3: played it for me, I was like, I think this
Speaker 3: is your best and I wasn't sure that, Like now
Speaker 3: I'm quite positive that.
Speaker 4: It is for best album in my way, I would
Speaker 4: tend to agree. Yeah, but then you remember there has
Speaker 4: been so much incredible work And I was actually thinking
Speaker 4: about that as I was listening to your album. Bet
Speaker 4: like this concept of like doing your best work. It's
Speaker 4: like because as I was listening to it, I was like,
Speaker 4: this is his best work. This is the most cohesive,
Speaker 4: like best work. And I wonder as an artist, like
Speaker 4: when you hear this is your best work, obviously that's
Speaker 4: like a compliment, like at face value in and of itself,
Speaker 4: but like I would imagine you're incredibly proud of the
Speaker 4: other great pieces of work you've put out. And what
Speaker 4: I would imagine is the thing that's like really great
Speaker 4: when it comes to you is it's like you can't
Speaker 4: really even compare this to like Reverie because it does
Speaker 4: something completely different.
Speaker 1: And is that the goal?
Speaker 4: Is it just like creating different bodies of work where
Speaker 4: you can say I did that thing, now I'm doing
Speaker 4: this thing.
Speaker 1: Like is that a clear question?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think, at least in terms of like
Speaker 5: writing my own music, I try to like lead first
Speaker 5: and foremost from just like where I'm at, like as
Speaker 5: a person, and like let that be the guide as
Speaker 5: opposed to going in and being like I'd really like
Speaker 5: to do like Americana sound now or like then my
Speaker 5: last album, like I'd really like to have a Peter
Speaker 5: Gabriel moment. Like it's more like because it was the
Speaker 5: pandemic and I was wanting, like I was feeling restless
Speaker 5: like everybody and wanting an escape, like I was loving
Speaker 5: writing songs that had like all that eighties electronic like
Speaker 5: feeling to them, and then that's sort of how that
Speaker 5: came to be. And in this case, you know, I've
Speaker 5: been with no one now for a moment, and I
Speaker 5: turned thirty and things are feeling a little more like
Speaker 5: settled and comfortable in terms of like understanding myself and
Speaker 5: like who I am. And so that felt a lot
Speaker 5: more just organic to like a super plaintive, like unadorned
Speaker 5: like sound that lives in this more Laurel Canyon, Paul
Speaker 5: sim and James Taylory kind of world. And so saying
Speaker 5: like best work, I think for me it's like I
Speaker 5: I'll always like what's happening, Yeah, like now the best
Speaker 5: because it's the one I like relate to the most
Speaker 5: and like the thing that I feel like that I
Speaker 5: can still identify with, Like I feel like sometimes I
Speaker 5: listen to to other things I've done or watch other
Speaker 5: you know, if I'm forced to other projects that I've done,
Speaker 5: and then like I can have an appreciation for it,
Speaker 5: but I like, it's such a hard thing. I'm sure
Speaker 5: you feel this way too. It's like you watch things
Speaker 5: or hear things and you're like, I could have done
Speaker 5: so much more, or now I have such a better perspective,
Speaker 5: or I don't know what I was thinking, or like
Speaker 5: that doesn't feel like me at all, And it doesn't
Speaker 5: mean you don't love those things still, but I always
Speaker 5: will feel like the most proud of like the thing
Speaker 5: that I feel like paints me as I am right now.
Speaker 5: So and also anytime anyone wants to say that something
Speaker 5: is good that I isn't.
Speaker 1: My performance for Evanhanson when I was twenty four years old.
Speaker 5: Is like, yeah, such such a relief, because when that ended,
Speaker 5: it was sort of like a was this my was this?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 1: Key? You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I'm just so grateful that there's been more acts
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 3: I feel like you, for a while now I have
Speaker 3: transcended the Evanhansen part of your life and career, which
Speaker 3: is an incredible like it's an incredible benchmark in that
Speaker 3: sort of timeline. But like I feel like, for a
Speaker 3: while now you've really staked all these nice claims outside
Speaker 3: of that in a way that like makes it all
Speaker 3: co exist on the same plane. But like with this
Speaker 3: album I really love, I feel like fear of missing
Speaker 3: out is the thing that kind of like I'm happy
Speaker 3: stones it for me, Like it's like it's plaintive throughout
Speaker 3: the album. But I feel like this is a song
Speaker 3: that represents like getting settled into something, getting settled into
Speaker 3: this idea of like I don't need to be stimulated
Speaker 3: by all of these things that are happening outside of
Speaker 3: my world, Like I'm very eager to like decorate and
Speaker 3: adorn and have some knowledge around like my my little
Speaker 3: corner of the world or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think definitely other than like ad Nauseum loves
Speaker 5: songs to Noah, like the other main things that I
Speaker 5: wanted to really express and like write about, it is
Speaker 5: just this understanding of like following your internal compass, which
Speaker 5: I feel like it is easier said than done, and
Speaker 5: like particularly when with what we all do, and like
Speaker 5: it's like very easy to want to like make the
Speaker 5: right move creatively, professionally, whatever, personally that like it's the
Speaker 5: movie you're supposed to make, or the thing that others
Speaker 5: would like you to do, or what you know will
Speaker 5: have the best external reaction, validation, et cetera. And like
Speaker 5: being in this relationship and also just having other experiences
Speaker 5: like making theater camp with my friends and with Noah,
Speaker 5: Like I think she has really just like driven home
Speaker 5: that like you know, we're all gonna tie, Like we
Speaker 5: need to just be really trying to prioritize like the
Speaker 5: things that make us wake up and like feel excited
Speaker 5: and fulfilled and like want to do this in the
Speaker 5: first place, because like, no matter how positive and wonderful
Speaker 5: an experience is, like by virtue of what we all do,
Speaker 5: like there's gonna be so much shittiness that is needed,
Speaker 5: like you have to just get through to get to
Speaker 5: the good part. And like critique and the internet and
Speaker 5: just there's all this stuff that's like it's not going anywhere.
Speaker 5: So like if the thing itself is not billing you up,
Speaker 5: then like really, what's the point, and so I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: just that sort of ability and like courage to settle
Speaker 5: into that thanks to having this partner who makes me
Speaker 5: feel like I can do that, I think is exactly
Speaker 5: what I wanted to exert you.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I wrote down a line from that song
Speaker 4: which is, this is paraphrasing, but scared of disappointing people
Speaker 4: I'll never see, and then I've got the fear of
Speaker 4: missing out on me, Like do you think that the
Speaker 4: that not that it was the answer to be in
Speaker 4: a relationship, but that it really helped distract from all
Speaker 4: the other shit, because like sometimes I feel.
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, I would die for one you
Speaker 1: know what I mean like that?
Speaker 4: And honestly, sometimes when I feel really overwhelmed with kind
Speaker 4: of this idea of like what do people think? Like
Speaker 4: what should I do? Like am I doing the right thing?
Speaker 4: I literally I end up triggering myself and like missing
Speaker 4: being in a relationship, like as if that's the answer,
Speaker 4: And then you say these things like, well, Noah's made
Speaker 4: everything beautiful and wonderful, so maybe it is the answer.
Speaker 4: So should I just like should we just settle now?
Speaker 4: Should we just like toss a line out? Put a
Speaker 4: blindfold on and hope a good one bites. No, No,
Speaker 4: it's two things.
Speaker 5: It's it's it's obviously is very helpful, but also like
Speaker 5: your girls in therapy working these things out on alone too,
Speaker 5: But also, like I would think, the only thing worse
Speaker 5: than trying to come to these conclusions on your own
Speaker 5: would be doing it with someone that's not the right
Speaker 5: person for you to be doing and just like leading
Speaker 5: you astray, or like bullshitting you, or blowing smoke or
Speaker 5: just like yes, manning you. I feel like that is
Speaker 5: an even scarier like pratfall. So no, no, only if
Speaker 5: it's like your person. Otherwise, like you are strong women
Speaker 5: that can stand arow on two feet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely are strong women. But it's hard times.
Speaker 3: Sometimes a bitch gets brought down.
Speaker 1: It's so true, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean I remember, like when I was in a relationship,
Speaker 4: like it was so easy to be like, well, fuck this,
Speaker 4: I have a boyfriend, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: you storm away and go I don't need this, because
Speaker 4: I remember I got into a fight with one of
Speaker 4: our friends and like I remember saying, like you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call my boyfriend and then like fell apart.
Speaker 4: In such an insane way, and so I was just like, well.
Speaker 1: No, I can't. That was not a healthy thing to
Speaker 1: rely on because it was external.
Speaker 4: I guess that is the reason why your girls have
Speaker 4: to be in therapy, because nothing helps like therapy.
Speaker 1: Nothing. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 5: Of course, that's why people say such nice things about
Speaker 5: it's like actually true, totally.
Speaker 4: I'm doing the EMDR and I said I was doing
Speaker 4: the EMDR and Boone called it controversial.
Speaker 1: No, dr. You hold the little things. It's like you
Speaker 1: hold two little pods and they vibrate and.
Speaker 4: Then basically like you close your eyes and a sort
Speaker 4: of stream of conscious like speak on whatever topic it
Speaker 4: is your therapist is talking about, and she sort of
Speaker 4: guides you through these different emotions and you kind of
Speaker 4: just don't stop yourself. And like you find every single
Speaker 4: time I've gone to therapy, it's like it's sort of
Speaker 4: like trauma stuff. But that's it doesn't mean it has
Speaker 4: to be like.
Speaker 1: But it's not clear on what you're holding. So basically
Speaker 1: you're holding two like little tiny pods and they vibrate rotationally,
Speaker 1: So it's like based on.
Speaker 4: It's just to make your brain work a little faster,
Speaker 4: you know, I think it's kind of like it's kind
Speaker 4: of like fooling.
Speaker 1: You into like making your brain like move a little quickly.
Speaker 3: It's making your brain play at one.
Speaker 1: Is Noah here, yeah he is. No come on, we're
Speaker 1: talking about therapy. Come now. Oh my god, he flashed us.
Speaker 1: He flashed us. I love I'm really loving the blonde hair.
Speaker 1: It's really that was what I said too. I think
Speaker 1: it's time to like reclaim sort of them blonde. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, my thing is like people that are like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's in crisis. It's like an.
Speaker 4: Easy, stupid thing to say. And also I guarantee you
Speaker 4: if I was in crisis, I would not roll the
Speaker 4: dice on my hair. I'm a gig, like, I have
Speaker 4: so much of my self worth is on top of
Speaker 4: my head. I wouldn't roll the dice on. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I understand they were explaining, we're talking about therapy.
Speaker 4: Oh, my therapist told me about this recently.
Speaker 5: What is that you hold in your hand and they
Speaker 5: and they buzz rotationally, They sort of buzz back and forth.
Speaker 4: It's supposed to like make your brain move quicker so
Speaker 4: that you like stream a consciousness arrive at things that
Speaker 4: you may not and it's like you it's like you
Speaker 4: talk about traumatic memories while it happened.
Speaker 5: It's like the like hearing test when you were younger,
Speaker 5: but like for emotions.
Speaker 4: Can I say I miss just doing like going to
Speaker 4: the nurse and hearing test test and when.
Speaker 5: Everything was just sort of like raise your hand when
Speaker 5: you hear a beat that.
Speaker 1: Those were the steaks.
Speaker 3: I love you, I love you, I love you, love you, Noah,
Speaker 3: we love you. The most stressful part of the year
Speaker 3: was the residential fitness tests.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the mile. The mile.
Speaker 5: We ran the mile by running three cycles around the
Speaker 5: block of our school.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's how they measured it. We had the track
Speaker 4: see see the presidential That was.
Speaker 1: Something I really placed a lot of value in because
Speaker 1: I happened to be good at it, because I couldn't
Speaker 1: like an love George W.
Speaker 4: Bush, I mean one of the great girls. You know
Speaker 4: what's hard for me to sit and reach. That's what
Speaker 4: I'm talking about. You sit and you're supposed to touch
Speaker 4: your toes. To touch your toes, Yeah, that I do.
Speaker 1: I feel that you are flexible. You sort of give
Speaker 1: flexible energy.
Speaker 5: I mean enough to like stretch out for singing. I'm
Speaker 5: not like a Donza. No one is like a Donza.
Speaker 1: Stretch out for singing. Yeah, you got to get your
Speaker 1: whole body. Well that's the title of app.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, stretch stretch out for singing, that's the title of app.
Speaker 1: You don't like it, It's okay, that's all right, it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's okay. He thinks.
Speaker 4: Because he said one of the rules in tandem with us,
Speaker 4: he can sort of like dictate the title.
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be ghost Whisper, but
Speaker 1: I like, I like, oh I whisper. Let's make it
Speaker 1: about Casey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, we'll make it
Speaker 1: about Casey. We could do that.
Speaker 3: Wait, I have a kind of a scary question, and
Speaker 3: you don't ask a scary question.
Speaker 1: Okay, But when we were when.
Speaker 3: We were talking about like regarding your past selves or
Speaker 3: your work, like I imagine that is going to come
Speaker 3: up when you finish merrily, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like you're gonna watch yourself back and be like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, who wow.
Speaker 5: If we're all alive and the world is intact, and
Speaker 5: like film still exists and people go watch film, which
Speaker 5: all of which we don't know. This is sixteen years
Speaker 5: in the future. So like fully don't know, I think.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's just going to be such
Speaker 5: an emotional like scrap book that I won't care, Like
Speaker 5: I think right, because it's like Beanie is in it
Speaker 5: with me and she's like my lifelong friend.
Speaker 1: And then it's like Sondheime, which is you.
Speaker 5: Knowless and the Angel of the World, and like, I
Speaker 5: just think I feel so unbelievably happy that it exists,
Speaker 5: and I would be so overjoyed if we literally made
Speaker 5: it to the finish line. Then I think I would
Speaker 5: be thrilled to watch it, and especially with my God
Speaker 5: willing like maybe children at that point, like giving them
Speaker 5: a little kind of retrospective of oh my god, where
Speaker 5: we're at. And also right now, like we're gays, Like
Speaker 5: I look in the mirror and I'm like my tummy this,
Speaker 5: and my cheeks that and my whatever. But I'm so
Speaker 5: excited for, like in sixteen years to look at the
Speaker 5: early scenes and be.
Speaker 1: Like, God, look how fucking young and cor Oh my god.
Speaker 4: That's the thing too, is it's like when you look
Speaker 4: back and you're like, why was I insecure? It's like
Speaker 4: you wish you could tell yourself even from three years
Speaker 4: from now, it's just it's good now. The thing that
Speaker 4: I'm fixated now lately is my fucking neck. And like
Speaker 4: when I like, it's it's ridiculous. It is ridiculous. What's
Speaker 4: wrong with your long, statuesque neck? You guys?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 4: But I feel like, you know what what happened to
Speaker 4: me was I was in a video with bad lighting
Speaker 4: that did very well, and because it was like a
Speaker 4: funny video, like I have.
Speaker 1: Bad lighting but did very well. No, no, no, okay.
Speaker 4: So I guess hosted Love It or Leave It last
Speaker 4: week and it was the live show, and a clip
Speaker 4: from the live show, I told a story about how
Speaker 4: on nine to eleven I made my mom take me
Speaker 4: to go get the Mariah Carey album Glitter, like I
Speaker 4: threw a tantrum and it was nine to eleven so like,
Speaker 4: and it was a funny story, I swear, but I
Speaker 4: was like, I was in this really bad lighting and
Speaker 4: like it didn't look great and then it had me
Speaker 4: second guessing my hair. It was just like and I
Speaker 4: was just like, you know what, this is not a
Speaker 4: video for me to watch, Like it's I'm never gonna
Speaker 4: get permanence on this. Like it's like when you're talking
Speaker 4: about watching your old work and like or watching new
Speaker 4: work and then like what it does, Like my thing
Speaker 4: is I always appreciate it much later because in the moment,
Speaker 4: I'm always so critical of like the way I look,
Speaker 4: or like what I've done, like when I like we
Speaker 4: talk about this, like when I first saw Firearm Island,
Speaker 4: I had a breakdown like it, and we've all experienced that.
Speaker 1: B When talks about it as well, like it's hard
Speaker 1: to engage with yourself when you're already in a community
Speaker 1: that's so hard on itself. It's unnatural.
Speaker 5: I mean it's it's like it's the Internet alone of
Speaker 5: like looking at images of yourself all day is like
Speaker 5: ruining everyone's mental health and self esteem. And then on
Speaker 5: top of that, for your livelihood to depend on something
Speaker 5: where once again you're confronted with your image all the time.
Speaker 1: It's like it's no wonder we're also fucked up. We're
Speaker 1: also fucked off. Squeezing things that buzz.
Speaker 3: I will say of the m d R stuff, like
Speaker 3: I pointed it out as controversial because of based on
Speaker 3: what I had read just textually and then anecdotally, people
Speaker 3: were telling me like I forget, like people at work
Speaker 3: were like, oh no, it's actually like it's actually been
Speaker 3: very helpful, and I, ah, that's all I care about.
Speaker 1: Well, I did tell my therapist that you said it
Speaker 1: was controversial. Why did he say that?
Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't know. I think he
Speaker 4: thought it was genuinely controversial. She goes, Okay, well it
Speaker 4: is like just so you know, it's not controversial. It's
Speaker 4: like a research thing, et cetera. And I was like,
Speaker 4: I feel good about what we're doing. And then she
Speaker 4: gave me the pods and they began to buzz. It's
Speaker 4: just to say we've touched on it now, I would
Speaker 4: say four times. Still have no idea what this is.
Speaker 4: Look it up, bitch.
Speaker 3: Matt is like putting his dukes up and he's saying,
Speaker 3: those are pot.
Speaker 5: I'm imagining like stress ball squeezers, but they vibrate.
Speaker 4: I have yet to correctly describe what it is, and
Speaker 4: I'm realizing when I try, it's because I don't think
Speaker 4: I really know. I think it's kind of just like
Speaker 4: everything in my life where someone just said do you
Speaker 4: want to try this, and I'm like, yeah, great, I
Speaker 4: want to try it all.
Speaker 5: H yeah, Yolo, are you a trier? Am I a trier. No,
Speaker 5: I'm afraid of everything. But Noah is a really amazing trier.
Speaker 5: So it evens out.
Speaker 1: Good for you guys to be married. Then, yeah, take
Speaker 1: each other, probably balance each other out a bit, right.
Speaker 3: I know the invite list has to be big. You
Speaker 3: guys have big families, but we were getting right in there.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: We don't have to be on the list, but we
Speaker 3: can be present in a way.
Speaker 1: What would you guys?
Speaker 4: I can share one seat if I were to hire you,
Speaker 4: like as vendors, Like what is the service that you
Speaker 4: would offer? I think we would like write poety no
Speaker 4: you know you know what we could do at the
Speaker 4: pot Galvin wedding. We could be like party motivators like
Speaker 4: at bar and bot mitzvahs and stuff like like just
Speaker 4: go up to the tables and be like, come on,
Speaker 4: Mama June. You want to know there's something in this world.
Speaker 4: There's someone there named Mama June. Motors I like style
Speaker 4: at our wedding.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: So basically Ben is looking at Noah off camera and
Speaker 4: I'm imagining that like it's like they heard us be
Speaker 4: I'm like, so what can we do?
Speaker 1: What can we be invited? And Noah's off camera like no, no,
Speaker 1: we are capped. We no, no, then do not no.
Speaker 5: He's on camera being like ask the most he will
Speaker 5: be dance. But party motivators is good.
Speaker 1: We'll dance, We'll do it all. We'll stretch to saying
Speaker 1: we'll stretch to dance party Motivators.
Speaker 4: There was a moment I was at a party ones
Speaker 4: I think it was a sweet sixteen or something where
Speaker 4: there was a party motivator and the girl. It was
Speaker 4: mortifying to be like a thirteen year old like gay preteen,
Speaker 4: like gangly, like going through it like in terms of
Speaker 4: the girl spurt and have this like confident twenty something
Speaker 4: gorgeous sort of run over to you, like shaking her
Speaker 4: like shoulders like this and.
Speaker 1: Being like come on, mats, you get up, this is
Speaker 1: a party, come.
Speaker 4: On boo, and like making me move my horrible limbs
Speaker 4: like wait, she sounds like.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: Honestly, she was sorry because I could say I knew
Speaker 4: she was me, I knew she was a confident me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you saw yourself reflected.
Speaker 4: It was just I couldn't imagine being confident enough to
Speaker 4: dance over to strangers like let's go, But now I can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, That's the way that I would like Peacock at
Speaker 5: Barnastas because I was like the only usually self with
Speaker 5: that gay kid, or maybe there was like one other one,
Speaker 5: but it would be like me and the girls going
Speaker 5: absolutely off and the guys just sitting at the.
Speaker 1: Table and they're like sneakers and suits.
Speaker 5: And also if there's a boy dancer, if you're going
Speaker 5: to actually do this, you have to wear a too
Speaker 5: tight for you black T shirt.
Speaker 1: Problem.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, problem, Okay, last coach has we've become the
Speaker 4: poser children for sex. We're taking a turn towards fitness.
Speaker 4: Bowen is showing his butt in a movie and yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing's so shot. That's what I call it.
Speaker 4: Because Rosie O'Donnell used to whenever she'd have a male
Speaker 4: guest on her show back in the day, right before
Speaker 4: the interview would.
Speaker 1: End, she would go any heiney shots.
Speaker 4: I remember years ago, like watching Rossi o' donald, I
Speaker 4: would quote unquote get sick at school, like I would
Speaker 4: fake it a lot like that' so I could come
Speaker 4: home and Shrosi o'donald sometimes and she remember good, she's
Speaker 4: so good. She had she had a marky Mark Wahlberg
Speaker 4: not Marky Mark on her show one time, and this
Speaker 4: was like, you know, he was market marking and he
Speaker 4: was so hot, and she was still doing her thing
Speaker 4: of like I'm flirting with these guys on my show.
Speaker 1: So she was like, and he goes a little.
Speaker 5: And then you came instantaneously, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So hot. To think about it, not anymore sadly, but
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean other things getting the way with that.
Speaker 4: It's too much to unsee, but you know, totally we
Speaker 4: had our time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you guys see Dennis Quaid's big announcement.
Speaker 4: He's come out and said that he's gonna vote for
Speaker 4: Trump and the quote, the quote was this, a lot.
Speaker 1: Of people say he's an asshole, but he's my asshole.
Speaker 1: Come on, he's my asshole. Was what the man said.
Speaker 3: No, your ass hole is on your person. That's not
Speaker 3: He's not your asshole. You've had one all along. It's
Speaker 3: the Ruby slippers. It's like, no, it's been with you.
Speaker 1: Just one of the most colossal flops.
Speaker 5: I will just take the image of him with the
Speaker 5: open chest hair, with Meredith Blake and the parent trap
Speaker 5: and leave the rest, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like Harry Potter, like if Dennis Quaid as a
Speaker 4: child meant something to you when he opened up his
Speaker 4: shirt a little bit and like showed that chest hair
Speaker 4: engaged to Meredith Blake.
Speaker 1: Don't let it ruin it for you, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Don't don't let what's happened for you. It's
Speaker 1: like that and Hermione and then they can both go away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly exactly, Harry Potter, what are our thoughts?
Speaker 1: Well, Daniels and Merrily? Wait did you see the Merrily?
Speaker 1: Did you go for research? By the way, for people that.
Speaker 4: Don't know, like Ben and Beanie are shooting with Richard
Speaker 4: linklate of Boyhood fame, like every year they're doing Merrily
Speaker 4: the right way, which is every year they're shooting like
Speaker 4: a chapter of this story and it's going to come
Speaker 4: out in like sixteen years, so whatever the fuck it is,
Speaker 4: like when it's all done so over the he's doing
Speaker 4: what he did with Boyhood with Merrily, And that's what
Speaker 4: we're talking about when we're talking about like the watching
Speaker 4: in many years and looking back.
Speaker 1: So did you go to see me? Of course? Oh,
Speaker 1: Paul Mescal, Yeah, he's frank. Wow, you really nailed the casting.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw it off Broaday and on Broadway.
Speaker 1: I thought it was wonderful. I loved it. The three
Speaker 1: of them are so impeccably passed together.
Speaker 5: They just really give and gel and they bring different
Speaker 5: energies and you really believe their sweet love and then
Speaker 5: it makes.
Speaker 1: It sad when it goes away.
Speaker 5: And I thought it was as again, like you were saying,
Speaker 5: it's like, I think, if we can make it, the
Speaker 5: ultimate way to do it is actually really to watch
Speaker 5: that d aging process happen. But as far as like
Speaker 5: making it work on stage and playing up and then
Speaker 5: playing down, it's like it's the best version I could imagine.
Speaker 1: Really, Right, that's gonna be so emotional, right, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of tears. Yeah, let's watching yourself the
Speaker 1: age Like, no, don't.
Speaker 5: But I'll be watching it from like in like with
Speaker 5: Google glasses on my own deck, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Can drive it in my in my like scoop a
Speaker 5: suit to be outside in the environment.
Speaker 1: It'll be great. Well, how do we save cinema? That's
Speaker 1: a good question.
Speaker 4: I think probably we try Batgirl again. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 4: think more more sequels, I think, yeah, yeah, yeaheah, I
Speaker 4: have to say, like with Furiosa like quote unquote flopping
Speaker 4: like Bowen and I fucking loved mad Max Ferry Road.
Speaker 4: But I think I think the reason why I didn't
Speaker 4: go see Furiosa and like didn't have like top of
Speaker 4: mind plans to see Furiosa is because I do feel
Speaker 4: like when I see the preview for that movie, I
Speaker 4: do feel like I've seen that movie all right, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like people are all well throwing out their theories about
Speaker 4: like why the box office is flopping, and everyone has
Speaker 4: like their ideas about why it's not been a great year,
Speaker 4: why it hasn't been a great couple of years. But
Speaker 4: like I think my thing is, it just feels like
Speaker 4: every movie that comes out, even if they are real
Speaker 4: equality which this is apparently, I just feel like I
Speaker 4: have seen it. Yeah, And I think that's like a
Speaker 4: thing with the sequels of it all. It's just like
Speaker 4: the sequel and prequel fatigue is just like it's very
Speaker 4: real because we're not getting anything new.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I feel like so out of touch,
Speaker 5: But like the things I consider to be adventized are
Speaker 5: like so not the things that I guess, like the
Speaker 5: general public would consider to be adventized. I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, like your go send poor things, and
Speaker 5: Emma like that's I'm getting out of my apartment and
Speaker 5: going to see that with a crowd. Like but like
Speaker 5: Marvel number twenty seven, I'm like, not, that doesn't really
Speaker 5: thrill me anymore.
Speaker 1: Cares.
Speaker 3: But I think that we're all on the same page
Speaker 3: about like that we are in tune with the general
Speaker 3: public where they're like, we don't really care about the
Speaker 3: next like Marvel twenty seven. But what I find interesting
Speaker 3: is that with Wicked like it is like, oh, we
Speaker 3: have made a musical look like a Marvel film, which
Speaker 3: has never really happened before.
Speaker 1: I think it's brilliant. I mean, oh, I just I
Speaker 1: just realized that.
Speaker 3: You've seen it. Have you seen any times? I think
Speaker 3: you've seen it? I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know you he might have no no, no,
Speaker 5: no no no, he's w h word of honor, have not,
Speaker 5: would love to have not. Okay, I've seen some like
Speaker 5: BTS packages maybe that haven't come out yet, but I
Speaker 5: haven't seen the film. But every every little lick of
Speaker 5: footage I've seen has looked stunning and glorious, and I
Speaker 5: can't wait, and it's finally a musical that's big enough
Speaker 5: and like fully realized enough the way that it absolutely
Speaker 5: should be, and we all need to show up.
Speaker 1: Oh we will.
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about Wicked at all. I'm not worried
Speaker 4: about Wicked.
Speaker 1: It's about candles.
Speaker 4: You know what's cool about Wicked too, like Whipped not that,
Speaker 4: like people weren't aware of the fact that it was
Speaker 4: a musical, but more than any other movie musical, Like
Speaker 4: in the trailer, you get that it's a musical.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but people still have gripes about we didn't
Speaker 3: see anyone singing, Like we didn't see the note come
Speaker 3: out of Cynthia's mouth, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, which I think is who like reme? What comes out?
Speaker 1: The Internet's gonna be like, Okay, there was too much.
Speaker 4: Like the saturation.
Speaker 1: The color saturation was crazy.
Speaker 5: It's like, you go make this movie for four fucking years, like's.
Speaker 4: For twenty for God's say, everyone always knows better and
Speaker 4: no one does except us. Now, yeah, that's right, except
Speaker 4: the three of us right now, we know better, but
Speaker 4: everyone else.
Speaker 1: Doesn't, and they should shut up.
Speaker 4: That's a rule of culture. I forget how long it
Speaker 4: was Ben, you're allowed to say it's not, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not, it's not, but it wasn't. We have a
Speaker 1: category best song from Wicked.
Speaker 5: And have you announced the nominations?
Speaker 1: No, by now we have okay, what are they? Let
Speaker 1: me read them? Yeah, and then we'll have you choose.
Speaker 4: These are the nominees for for best Song from The
Speaker 4: nominees may surprise you.
Speaker 1: Okay, if something bad's not on there, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear this, but keep going.
Speaker 3: Well it might be okay, hold on, watch the space
Speaker 3: best song from which the nominees are Thank goodness, I'm
Speaker 3: not that girl. I'm not that girl. Re prieze, what
Speaker 3: is this feeling? Also low key? Some of you are
Speaker 3: still calling this song loathing, and we clock it every
Speaker 3: single time, every single time, although Stephen Schwartz and Stephen
Speaker 3: Reemon call it loathing the people, and okay.
Speaker 1: Well then they need to answer to that.
Speaker 3: Okay, There short day March of the Witch Hunters.
Speaker 1: Something bad and dear old chiz, no divine gravity, no
Speaker 1: good deed snubs which are nice snub yeah, but this
Speaker 1: is these are all the real ones.
Speaker 5: It's honestly, this is a There's a lot of comments
Speaker 5: in this category a lot of comments.
Speaker 4: Yeah, flying high my knee. I have two knee jerks
Speaker 4: that have two knees, So.
Speaker 1: This is believable what you said, because they both could
Speaker 1: have jerked the left and the right.
Speaker 5: Me my vote would be garnered by either I'm not
Speaker 5: tak over Prieze, thank you so much, or March of
Speaker 5: the Witch Hunters because the especially in the in the musical,
Speaker 5: the reveal of her behind the March the witch Hunters
Speaker 5: every time shivers goose bumps.
Speaker 3: Shivers goose bumps. But also Bach is like going.
Speaker 4: With the witch. Yeah, of course you know what I
Speaker 4: realized we forgot because low key it's not on the
Speaker 4: Spotify thing because it's not on the fucking album, which
Speaker 4: is I'll never get over.
Speaker 3: Is get a Witch?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Of course Zoom rejected your pitch. By the way,
Speaker 4: they did well, not on my recording. Zoom silenced your ass.
Speaker 1: Sorry listen, I don't care what anyone says I made noise.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping we get that.
Speaker 5: I mean again something I legitimately do not know the
Speaker 5: answer to, but I hope that we get.
Speaker 4: That on this new film album. See Bowen is famous
Speaker 4: for being like I think I can say this and
Speaker 4: then dropping something crazy about the movie.
Speaker 3: Oh well, like the Internet got my ass for saying
Speaker 3: that Dileoman would be played by a woman, which I
Speaker 3: never said. I never said that Diloman would be played
Speaker 3: by a woman. Yeah, like it's crazy. These girls will
Speaker 3: just make shuit up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but girl, you speak too much, you play too much.
Speaker 4: You do this with Ariana Grande's album too. He was
Speaker 4: on fucking Twitch and he goes, yeah, I've heard the
Speaker 4: new Areano Grande albums. It's definitely gonna be this and
Speaker 4: she definitely worked with this person and I was And
Speaker 4: then the media picked that out too, and she was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I love it. You talked about it.
Speaker 1: You meant that.
Speaker 5: You meant that, like spiritually, Diloman is a woman, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean exactly? Yeah, and she is because
Speaker 5: Dilman it was a.
Speaker 1: Puppeteer named Louisa.
Speaker 3: There's a Puppetinnia Melsall and I wanted to get her
Speaker 3: flowers because she was amazing. Yeah, And the Internet took
Speaker 3: that to mean that Diloman was played by women, and
Speaker 3: then they were like.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Dina and I'm like, that is the.
Speaker 4: Dina is Dilaman, Like imagine that call like hey a Dina,
Speaker 4: it's us, Like we know you've been interested in the cameo.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be Dyloman boo. Like she'd be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, god, how dare you guys?
Speaker 4: I am really pulling for I'm not that girl reprieze
Speaker 4: just because I I'm not that.
Speaker 1: And it goes into fucking it's the whole show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she gets to really like hit hit that note,
Speaker 3: but that don't wish, don't start wishing only wounds the heart, like.
Speaker 1: You kidding me? Show this it's a good show this week,
Speaker 1: this wick is a good show. Okay. I I don't
Speaker 1: think I can say this.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no, this this is what I'll say.
Speaker 3: I don't think someoney, everyone being like, oh why is
Speaker 3: it in two parts? If to find gravity's gonna be
Speaker 3: the first part? Then like what's there to like wait
Speaker 3: for in the second, Like there is so much.
Speaker 1: Ton not that.
Speaker 4: First of all, like for good and like the end
Speaker 4: of that movie, like of that show, Like that is
Speaker 4: the end of the story. Like don't worry that it's
Speaker 4: not gonna feel exciting. It's just what you're getting now
Speaker 4: is a really intense climax and finale for the first movie.
Speaker 4: That would feel really weird if it was one movie
Speaker 4: and that was just the middle of the movie, like
Speaker 4: you need to break them up. They're actually narratively and
Speaker 4: like in terms of a viewing experience, they just show
Speaker 4: supposed to.
Speaker 1: End after defying gravity.
Speaker 4: That's why there's an intermission, like and so basically what
Speaker 4: you're getting is is an intermission.
Speaker 1: You are getting the show, but it's two movies.
Speaker 4: I understand, of course totally why there'd be people out
Speaker 4: there being like, oh, it's a money thing.
Speaker 1: It's a money thing. But I think it would be
Speaker 1: weird to have defying gravity in the middle of that movie.
Speaker 5: I really Famously, tourists early on used to leave that
Speaker 5: intermission because they thought that was it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Famously, they were like, well, they can't go up from here,
Speaker 1: so that.
Speaker 3: She gets away, she gets away. But this is here's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. The people who are involved in this
Speaker 3: film me excluded hair deeply about this and except for me, no,
Speaker 3: just kidding, but like.
Speaker 1: It will be it will be okay, It will be okay.
Speaker 4: Of course, I have no doubts because I know my
Speaker 4: girl is in it, and when he touched that hat
Speaker 4: and said, what's this?
Speaker 1: I said, this is representation and it matters. Mean, gega,
Speaker 1: do you think the representation matters. You've never said that
Speaker 1: before publicly? Is this to me? Yes? No, I think
Speaker 1: we have enough. I think that's good. Of course it does.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean I was staking my whole life
Speaker 5: on just being like, I'm gay.
Speaker 1: Isn't that important? Look how gay?
Speaker 3: I am?
Speaker 4: Way?
Speaker 1: June gay love songs gay June gay.
Speaker 4: So you did was it acid or mushrooms that that
Speaker 4: made you say? The title is Honeymoon chocolate mushrooms. Of
Speaker 4: course acid is acid better?
Speaker 3: I think you would like it if you were out
Speaker 3: in nature, and if you are with your beloved and
Speaker 3: your your your close friends.
Speaker 1: It's not like chesty anxiety. I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I think that it would depend on how much you took.
Speaker 4: Here's what I would say, go into house up state,
Speaker 4: bring a nice vinyl. Let's let's throw out there like
Speaker 4: the new Maggie Rogers great and very underrated, great underrated.
Speaker 4: Isn't it a crowded year? Spin it, take your half a tab,
Speaker 4: walk around, look at the moon, see what it tells you.
Speaker 1: Oh so, nighttime. I feel starting today going tonight. Does
Speaker 1: it last not long? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, that's that's what we did. Bowhen and I
Speaker 4: did that years ago. We had an emotional breakthrough and.
Speaker 1: Then you woke up and your hair was blown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess yeah.
Speaker 3: Spiritually, I literally like went outside, stared at the moon
Speaker 3: and listened to an underrated Maggie Roterers song deep cut
Speaker 3: called Better and I listened to that on acid and
Speaker 3: I was like this, I will never forget this. It's
Speaker 3: a really I think you'll like it then okay, And.
Speaker 1: On the other side of the house, I was up
Speaker 1: looking at the moon listening to light On, which is
Speaker 1: of course her biggest single.
Speaker 5: Like speaking to me, I love that first album just
Speaker 5: really oh it was it was my personal like John
Speaker 5: he was coming of age film that that whole into
Speaker 5: it for like my whole.
Speaker 1: Entry into adulthood.
Speaker 5: Like if if Girls the Show was like one album,
Speaker 5: it would be yeag Rogers first album that.
Speaker 1: Is really a stute wow, you know period, both things
Speaker 1: that I love.
Speaker 4: You know what I heard the other day and it
Speaker 4: reminded me, like I think it was in the trailer
Speaker 4: for Girls season two, Ellie Golding, Anything can happen but
Speaker 4: I was like, this girl really gives it to you sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 5: Well, also that's just the music on Girls was consistently phenomena.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It was giving grais it out of Me tastemaker vibes. Yes,
Speaker 5: it was giving taste Maker rise. It was giving Robin
Speaker 5: writing the suite. We don't have to go there.
Speaker 4: But I don't think that there will ever be a
Speaker 4: better end to an episode of television effort than her
Speaker 4: writing that tweet's drafting that tweet, sending it, and Alison
Speaker 4: Williams coming in the reveal that to her that Elijah
Speaker 4: was gay the whole time, and they downced dancing on
Speaker 4: their own and they hug and the smash on the
Speaker 4: on the beat at the end of the chorus, like
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, and just a reaction to the
Speaker 4: news and just immediately embrace it and just be like
Speaker 4: that's funny, Like yeah, of course, you know, it's like
Speaker 4: that's friendship.
Speaker 5: It's just like letting it roll off your back. I
Speaker 5: could talk about that, we should do a whole Girls
Speaker 5: Rewatch podcast.
Speaker 1: I think that already exists.
Speaker 4: Probably you want it from us, though, yep.
Speaker 1: You know we're doing an Olympics podcast. Is that real.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, thoughts, but what does that mean? It's like,
Speaker 4: are you gonna go like event by event? That's one
Speaker 4: way to go about it. I'm down to like really
Speaker 4: go through each event and be like, Okay, so what
Speaker 4: should we know about this? And who are the players
Speaker 4: and who are the stars and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: So like for someone like me who's like not well versed,
Speaker 5: I could listen and you can help me like being.
Speaker 4: A perfect podcast for you because we don't know anything
Speaker 4: about anything perfect and so it's really gonna be for
Speaker 4: the for the every day this podcast, because it's truly
Speaker 4: hosted by two people who just this isn't their culture.
Speaker 4: I have to say maybe years ago, like the summer
Speaker 4: Olympics was my culture.
Speaker 1: When was the last time the Olympics was like something
Speaker 1: you gave energy to? Twenty twelve? Maybe London.
Speaker 5: I watched the clips afterwards that everybody tells me I
Speaker 5: need to watch. I've never been like a full tune
Speaker 5: into the Olympics girl, But I guess maybe this would
Speaker 5: be my opportunity if I'm following along with your podcast.
Speaker 3: I think so, And I think we can really talk
Speaker 3: about the bodies really.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I just will never forget. This is a
Speaker 4: Winter Olympics thing. But one of my sexual coming of
Speaker 4: ages was Apollo anton Ono apollow anton Ono, the speed
Speaker 4: skater and later Dancing with the Stars. I think winner, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think so too. The man had an ass.
Speaker 1: I bet he still has it. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I didn't stand a chance as like I guess I
Speaker 4: was like twelve or something like.
Speaker 1: There was no way around his ass.
Speaker 4: I was just like, I am so seated for this
Speaker 4: because he is the hottest man I've ever seen. Wow,
Speaker 4: just pour one out for Apollo.
Speaker 1: I mean where, But but do we need to like
Speaker 1: what happened? No?
Speaker 4: Nothing, I'm sorry that a bad thing happened.
Speaker 1: No one out like to me means like commemoration.
Speaker 5: Like oh oh god, No, I don't mean that. I
Speaker 5: mean just like like I don't know.
Speaker 4: To him, yes, I think it's because the last time
Speaker 4: I heard the expression poor one out my dad. I
Speaker 4: called my dad because Jimmy Buffett died and he said,
Speaker 4: I'm at the beach porn one out.
Speaker 1: For Jimmy, and I was like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: so heartbreaking. Dad. A little bit of Buffet on this
Speaker 1: album from you yeah, do you hear it?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's giving like singer songwriter, like
Speaker 1: acoustic guitar driven some stuff.
Speaker 5: I mean absolutely not. Yeah, there's a song called Margarita
Speaker 5: on the rocks. It's it's thank you.
Speaker 4: I'll take that.
Speaker 3: I will say, all American Queen is giving notes of
Speaker 3: Paul Simon and Jimmy and Buffett.
Speaker 5: Fair to say, yeah, just add like a little bit
Speaker 5: of packet and then yeah, totally.
Speaker 4: If you listen injury above, hitting that a little bit
Speaker 4: of faggot, you get bad.
Speaker 1: I actually really don't. I used to remember when I
Speaker 1: was little, like my my parents were huge parrot heads,
Speaker 1: and like I just started watching American Idol, so I
Speaker 1: of course thought I knew everything about singing. So I
Speaker 1: would always drag Jimmy Buffett for his lack of range
Speaker 1: and listen, you weren't wrong, rest in peace. But he
Speaker 1: didn't need the range range.
Speaker 5: He was an icon and several of them rangeless, rangeless king,
Speaker 5: rangeless king.
Speaker 4: All right, so we've hit the moment in the shell
Speaker 4: where it's time to turn to I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 4: this is a segment we all know and love.
Speaker 1: Let me guess you forgot.
Speaker 5: I didn't forget. I just didn't come prepared. But you
Speaker 5: guys go and they don't think it's.
Speaker 1: So what was the difference there? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was don't put on your voice, don't are talking
Speaker 4: in your little soft tenor's.
Speaker 1: In between shows at the Palace.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 4: Right, So for those of you who also may have forgotten,
Speaker 4: I don't think Sonni is a sexty second segment where
Speaker 4: we talk about something in culture and we sort of,
Speaker 4: you know, we aar grievances. I have something that it's
Speaker 4: gonna be very frustrating for a while, but it's it's
Speaker 4: just now come to my attention that this is gonna
Speaker 4: be the case, and so I'm gonna I'm gonna do
Speaker 4: my I don't think Swhani.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so Many's
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think Sohanny. I'm already stressed
Speaker 1: out about the best actress Tony Race next year. I mean,
Speaker 1: Audrey McDonald versus Nicole Scherzinger. This is going to be
Speaker 1: I mean, if you thought things have been difficult in
Speaker 1: the past, things are about to get really hard. Things
Speaker 1: are about to get really tough in this country.
Speaker 4: Because let me tell you something, not only are we
Speaker 4: gonna have whatever happens with the election later in the year,
Speaker 4: sorry to bring it up, but then almost a few
Speaker 4: months later, we're gonna have a Tony Awards that is
Speaker 4: gonna tear this country apart because we're gonna have happy
Speaker 4: country that are saying Audrey McDonald is playing Mama Rose.
Speaker 4: I mean that is what like a six time Tony
Speaker 4: winner playing the greatest musical role of all time?
Speaker 1: How do you get better than that? I have to
Speaker 1: tell you, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 4: If you haven't seen the culture tear, it's up in
Speaker 4: Sunset Bulevard and she's gonna tread the boards in New York.
Speaker 4: And I know she's gonna be galvanized, because if I
Speaker 4: can trust the cultures are going to be one thing,
Speaker 4: it is galvanized, and it is going to be behind
Speaker 4: her eyes.
Speaker 1: We're in for it. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 3: And that's one minute she is spilling blood, letting it
Speaker 3: drip off her chest onto the boards of Broadway.
Speaker 1: Li rauh Lee.
Speaker 4: I didn't think about that until now, and now I'm
Speaker 4: so stressed.
Speaker 1: With you haven't thought about it.
Speaker 4: It's all I've been able to think about is the
Speaker 4: fact that one of those women is going home empty hands.
Speaker 4: And I have to say, I guess face value, let's
Speaker 4: give Nicole one.
Speaker 1: This would be Audres seven, and again I have.
Speaker 4: Not seen that performance. It could be no contest, Like
Speaker 4: that's just how talented.
Speaker 5: She should just hop on as a producer because we
Speaker 5: know to one revival and then she gets one.
Speaker 4: Anyway, that's a good question. Yeah, just this insurance because
Speaker 4: she needs one too, But you know that's not the same.
Speaker 1: Six is not enough. Six is not let's not a
Speaker 1: campaign hashtag six is not enough.
Speaker 4: But I don't want to do that campaign because I
Speaker 4: wanted for Nicole bad. I can't wait to see her. No,
Speaker 4: you didn't go over to the West End, did you?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah? She insane. That's not it is.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you give a better, more thrilling. Well,
Speaker 4: I've seen you so so I do know how. But
Speaker 4: like it's it's no, don't tell me to shut up.
Speaker 4: Don't tell me to shut up. I have a line,
Speaker 4: I have a boundary.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. It's so good. I can't wait.
Speaker 3: I can't wait, Bowen, I know I'm thinking about next
Speaker 3: to Tony's in it. It is just like it's it's
Speaker 3: gonna be thrilling because whole col is in the mix, like, oh,
Speaker 3: forget it, it's it's gonna be nuts.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to get We're gonna have to get
Speaker 4: you back out there and say this is six B
Speaker 4: and iconically I introduced thement.
Speaker 1: Oh I remember, oh my god, my.
Speaker 3: Best reception ever, not at the Tony Awards themselves, but
Speaker 3: at the rehearsal earlier that day, where like all of
Speaker 3: like the people, like all of like the crew working
Speaker 3: the Tonys were like in the mezzanine at Radio City,
Speaker 3: and I like, whatever they okay, and now Bowen walks
Speaker 3: out and I walked out, and then like people cheering
Speaker 3: for the mezzanine being like, this is the most applausitive ever.
Speaker 3: This is the most spirited applause I've ever gone anywhere.
Speaker 3: And it was at two pm on a Saturday.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 4: I don't think you realize how exciting it is to
Speaker 4: see you.
Speaker 1: It's thrilling. It's always so exciting to see you.
Speaker 3: That's very nice. First time I met Cynthia at the rehearsal,
Speaker 3: and that was really nice.
Speaker 1: Was she lovely? She was lovely. I'm such a fan,
Speaker 1: I really am. I won't I do.
Speaker 3: You know what was the most Cynthia Riva thing that
Speaker 3: happened to me was.
Speaker 4: I was I was reading like the most yeah, every
Speaker 4: bote thing that happened to me.
Speaker 5: I was reading, saying incredibly well and yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying so so well. I sang no no.
Speaker 3: I was reading Middle March on set and then she
Speaker 3: comes up. She goes, what is that? I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's a book by George Elliott, but it's actually a woman,
Speaker 3: and she, you know, George Elliott was her like pen
Speaker 3: name and whatever. She goes, I'm gonna buy that. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna read that. And then next day she's like, I
Speaker 3: love it. I love it, So I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Started reading it that day.
Speaker 5: I was like, probably at five am on the treadmill. Yeah,
Speaker 5: crack cracked up in that book.
Speaker 3: Her and Michelle, Oh, every morning, five am, getting up
Speaker 3: doing your kidding you work out every day before she
Speaker 3: is bananas.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: I mean it shows she looks unbelievable. I'm so excited
Speaker 4: for what this is gonna. She's already a full superstar
Speaker 4: but like she's Alphaba, She's she's gonna be Alphaba.
Speaker 3: And with it, Oh my god, seeing west End Wicked
Speaker 3: is a fucking.
Speaker 1: Who I love. It's fun.
Speaker 4: They say room allocations instead of room assignments.
Speaker 1: Right, that's the biggest difference. That's the biggest difference, room allocations.
Speaker 5: I like that she's American in the movie because it's
Speaker 5: like the only way she's supposed to be different from
Speaker 5: everyone is for greenness, and so she should.
Speaker 1: Same everywhere every other way. But maybe Johnny is British.
Speaker 1: Johnny's British. He's a print anyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a prince, and then he's a winky prince,
Speaker 3: and then Twinkie Prince, twinky Prince. Then I think that's
Speaker 3: the only brit I'm missing one. Oh no, I think
Speaker 3: Peter dinklich I think Diloman is British.
Speaker 4: Is male British, He's a British man. He looks like
Speaker 4: a British man. What movie ama a map king Peter
Speaker 4: dinklish is. Actually it's real culture number ninety nine, Peter Dinklinck.
Speaker 1: If she looks like a British man as me, girls.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, Bowen, you really do know your culture oh,
Speaker 4: I just got a text from maybe colon ilhan Omar.
Speaker 1: Oh great.
Speaker 4: The political texts are popping off, of course off. Okay,
Speaker 4: so this is Bowen's I don't think so, honey. Are
Speaker 4: you ready galvanized in free Yes? Bonyang's time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Barbecues it ain't all it's
Speaker 1: cracked up to be.
Speaker 3: You want smoke in the lung, you want a half
Speaker 3: cooked piece of chicken. You're getting food poisoning at the function,
Speaker 3: and the conversation's not gonna be that great. The music's
Speaker 3: not gonna be loud enough because we're too afraid to,
Speaker 3: you know, get a complaint. None of it is what
Speaker 3: you want it to be. I'm sorry. I love We
Speaker 3: all love barbecue in theory.
Speaker 1: Don't we thirty seconds?
Speaker 3: But then when you have to like don't get the
Speaker 3: coal where you have to like figure out how you're
Speaker 3: gonna like like the thing, it's it's too much. I'm
Speaker 3: sorry to burst your bubble everybody. Summer's just beginning. It's
Speaker 3: frilling season, but it's not going to live up to
Speaker 3: the fantasy unless you're really good at the tongs, unless
Speaker 3: you're really good at opening up the But yeah, first
Speaker 3: of all, five seconds, good luck if you have to
Speaker 3: clean out the fucking vents from the year before, because
Speaker 3: that is going to put you off from the whole
Speaker 3: fucking thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 4: And that's one minute I will say. I will shout
Speaker 4: out Jared again. We just had a small, tiny moment
Speaker 4: at his house where he barbecued for a few friends.
Speaker 4: You just have to get someone who isn't like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I can do it. You have to get someone that's
Speaker 4: gonna take the grilling seriously.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Noah. You haven't been to a
Speaker 5: barbecue that Noah has been in charge of. It's a
Speaker 5: different kind of experience.
Speaker 4: Well maybe if he does it at the wedding, we
Speaker 4: can you know, you can throw us some meat on
Speaker 4: the side because we'll be working the event.
Speaker 5: Well you'll be so tired from your motivational dancing, right,
Speaker 5: you'll need some protein.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he's a great chef, so like it'll
Speaker 1: taste really good.
Speaker 5: But he just takes the timing seriously, doesn't put it
Speaker 5: on others. We positioned the grill in a proper place.
Speaker 5: It's it can be done in a meaningful way. But
Speaker 5: I do agree that a slap dash barbecue is not
Speaker 5: always a fun experience.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm two used to slap dash barbecue.
Speaker 4: It's like one of those things too, where like you
Speaker 4: never want to really volunteer unless it's so you're so
Speaker 4: confident you can do it. Because I've actually at our
Speaker 4: Fire Island house ball and remember this, I was like, oh, grill,
Speaker 4: and then one of our guests came over and was like,
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, I need you to get out of
Speaker 4: the way.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take over.
Speaker 4: But this person came over and was like, you know what,
Speaker 4: they were right to kick me off, Like I didn't
Speaker 4: know what I was doing, and everyone would have been
Speaker 4: having a worse experience. But if you have someone that's
Speaker 4: truly a grill master, which.
Speaker 1: Is these are few and far between, I would agree,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 5: But Noah Galvin, Yeah, well he's not certified, but he's
Speaker 5: he's a master of the grove.
Speaker 1: Should be a certification that you need to have to
Speaker 1: man a girl, do you hook?
Speaker 5: When we first started dating, the gas in my partmer
Speaker 5: was turned off and carry Bradshaw style. I was storing
Speaker 5: clothes in my own oven. But at this point I
Speaker 5: can like I can like sew, you know I can.
Speaker 5: I can clean as he goes and chop for him
Speaker 5: and stuff.
Speaker 1: You can see.
Speaker 4: Okay, I thought you said you could stew and I
Speaker 4: was like, well bowe yang's yeah, and I exclusively makes
Speaker 4: it too. That's like going, really do love stew bowing.
Speaker 1: I love stew year round?
Speaker 5: Really yeah, I love just because you could just you
Speaker 5: like throw her all in there and she just simmers
Speaker 5: in there she is or what what about it?
Speaker 1: Do you like?
Speaker 3: No, it's that It's like it's perfect stoner food. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: oh it's it just really hits every spot.
Speaker 4: As Taylor tom Winson recently said, a stew is just
Speaker 4: soup with something to.
Speaker 1: Say, that's perfect. I thought that was really apt. I
Speaker 1: thought it was beautiful. Well bo looking ahead, I hope
Speaker 1: that you have people around you that can barbecue this
Speaker 1: summer and aren't playing in your face.
Speaker 3: I just think like, look, I love a public space.
Speaker 3: I love a public park with grills. The smoke do billow,
Speaker 3: the smoke do go into other spaces and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: we were just trying to play cards here on our blanket,
Speaker 3: but we're getting the draft, we're getting the down draft
Speaker 3: from the grill that's like two hundred feet away.
Speaker 4: Spatial awareness is going to be huge this summer when
Speaker 4: it comes to creating smoke, fire and more period. So
Speaker 4: now it's time for Ben Platts. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 4: are you ready? Galvanized and free?
Speaker 1: No a galvanized? In between two? No galvanized, you've heard
Speaker 1: no a galvanized. His drag name is no Avail, but
Speaker 1: I do also like.
Speaker 4: No Avail that wait, can I try this because Bowen
Speaker 4: is not sold on my dragon name, but I'll try
Speaker 4: it out on you do it?
Speaker 1: Splash a cram? I like splash your cram. I was
Speaker 1: never against splash.
Speaker 4: You do that thing you always do to me, which
Speaker 4: is yeah, the iconic first name Splasha.
Speaker 5: No, that's not also one that I heard recently that's
Speaker 5: not for me, but that I think is good as
Speaker 5: Sharon Elise, like Sharon Elise, Sharon Elise or Alexa pro Alexa.
Speaker 1: Pro Okay, you're ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What you're between?
Speaker 4: Two like like do you need help to decide?
Speaker 1: One is like so Niche and one is like Braddy
Speaker 1: Niche and Braddy. I think I think you can make
Speaker 1: the nie.
Speaker 4: Let's do Niche Okay, okay, this has been I don't
Speaker 4: think so honey. Time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey.
Speaker 5: On door dash, when they tell you it's going to
Speaker 5: come at a certain time and then they're showing you
Speaker 5: the path of the car coming towards you, and they
Speaker 5: fill time by creating like a gridded path on every
Speaker 5: streak heading to your house, when you know for a
Speaker 5: fact that is not the path that the car is taking.
Speaker 5: They're just trying to pretend that he's on his way
Speaker 5: or his bike or his feet or whatever it is.
Speaker 5: He's not even left the business. He's dropping off somebody
Speaker 5: else's food, he's fucking somebody else's girlfriend. He's not headed
Speaker 5: towards you, and it's telling you don't worry. He's just
Speaker 5: like and he's also decided to take this left as well.
Speaker 5: And I also have did a more seconds. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: throw the other one. I don't think so honey. Straight
Speaker 5: people asking me what am I gonna do for pride,
Speaker 5: because I don't know what am I gonna do for pride.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna be gay and hang around other gay
Speaker 5: people like I do the rest of the year business.
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do for Pride? What are you gonna
Speaker 1: do for Pride?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna advocate for us? Are you gonna go
Speaker 1: to a parade, You're gonna take your shirt off? What
Speaker 1: are you gonna do for Pride? You're gonna comest to
Speaker 1: me at the palace. You should do that for Pride. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Second, continuing to live and cohabitate with my same sex partner,
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Fifty nine and a minute, and I.
Speaker 4: Don't think so, honey, that is one minute good for you.
Speaker 4: I was just in Palm Springs from Oral Day weekend.
Speaker 4: Those bars were filled with I'm sorry, but bachelorette parties
Speaker 4: and not not to say that Palm Springs is like
Speaker 4: an exclusively gay thing. It's fine. It's just like you
Speaker 4: get the sense that now more than ever. And I
Speaker 4: love the straight girlies, but like at the gay bar
Speaker 4: during Pride, it's like, that's not really your space.
Speaker 1: Like when the Real Houseworks of Salt Lake.
Speaker 4: City went to Palm Springs and stayed at the Tricksy
Speaker 4: Mo Hotel and then they went over to like the
Speaker 4: gay bars and stuff. I was like, I think this
Speaker 4: has changed forever, and it did. Yeah, like it was different.
Speaker 4: This year than it's ever been.
Speaker 1: Wow, because of Salt Lake. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I haven't researched in my findings.
Speaker 1: Those were those were historic episodes. They certainly were. They
Speaker 1: certainly were, and I wouldn't take them back at all.
Speaker 4: But I just noticed that the gay bars in Palm
Speaker 4: Springs this Memorial Day weekend. It was a different situation
Speaker 4: than years past.
Speaker 1: Or sure, okay, what is that going to come back?
Speaker 4: Like, it's done, They've shot the season. The ladies did
Speaker 4: very well at the last Culture Resalce Culture Awards nominations.
Speaker 4: They did really. They're up for the Bena Jesuit Award
Speaker 4: for a group of women that sligh for most women,
Speaker 4: most like group of women. They're up for best Picture
Speaker 4: literal picture. WHOA the last supper picture? It is, no,
Speaker 4: it's it's going for women on the Beach.
Speaker 1: Oh of course, of course. Yeah. The last sepperate picture, though,
Speaker 1: is snubbed.
Speaker 4: We got snubbed, and we're getting a lot of flak
Speaker 4: for snubbing. The rumors in nastiness and receipts, proof timelines released.
Speaker 1: We're getting it, but listen.
Speaker 4: Like we we don't control it, like it's it's like
Speaker 4: we don't control the nominations.
Speaker 5: So sorry, I understand someone else that's okay. The last
Speaker 5: supper picture will get like an Obie or something.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Speaking of nominations, I nominate Ben as one of our
Speaker 4: best guests, one of our favorite people.
Speaker 1: That's nice. This album is so good. I absolutely loved
Speaker 1: listening to every second of it. Honeymond is streaming now,
Speaker 1: and you gotta go see Ben at the Palace. You
Speaker 1: just have to. You'll be giving yourself a big gift,
Speaker 1: like I said.
Speaker 5: And if you don't live in New York, I'm going
Speaker 5: on tour after that, so yes, somewhere near you, so
Speaker 5: come see me.
Speaker 1: It'll be like pretty much the same.
Speaker 3: Thing stream honeymind now, I said, and I and Matt.
Speaker 3: Matt was saying, he nominates Ben. I have the envelope
Speaker 3: in my hand, and the winner.
Speaker 1: Is Ben's baby.
Speaker 5: You won, Babe, you want, but adrenals are so shot
Speaker 5: from the palace, they don't even know how to react.
Speaker 4: You gotta go see him quick before his adrenals totally
Speaker 4: give out because.
Speaker 1: Because they're they're they're on their last legs for the
Speaker 1: sore and he's chugging room temperature water just for you.
Speaker 1: It's gone from the whole episode. It's gone. That's good.
Speaker 1: You need your strength. We love you, Diva.
Speaker 4: I love you guys. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Ba a fucking quirks.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: We end every episode with the song.
Speaker 2: Don't wish, don't start wishing, only wounds the choo.
Speaker 1: Is that the right one? There's a girl I know, girl, No,
Speaker 1: give me a little channel. He loves so do do
Speaker 1: do do, do do.
Speaker 4: Not. I'm gonna give it a lot to hear the
Speaker 4: rest of that. Listen to the Wicked soundtrack.
Speaker 1: Bye Bye, I'm still