1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program hour one on this Tuesday, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Dan and the Dane's Stan Patrick Show. Certain fan bases 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: weren't happy. Yesterday news came out. J J. Watt made 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: his decision. He's going back home to Wisconsin with the Packers, 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: joining the new and improved Buffalo Bills, maybe the Tennessee Titans, 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Reunited with his brother in Pittsburgh. He 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: chose the Arizona Cardinals. Got the hopes up in places 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: like Buffalo and Green Bay certainly, and maybe a nice 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: edition and could have put those teams over the top. 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: And some critics say, oh, you chose money over playing 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: for a championship. Imagine if you joined the Kansas City Chiefs. 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: What would we say about JJ Watt? Oh, okay, you're 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: like the Kevin Durant to the NFL. You got to 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: join somebody else to win a championship. Oh, I know, 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: is the NFL is year to year. When you think 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: about Tom Brady joined the Buccaneers, I mean think back 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: on that when he joined the Buccaneers. At the time, 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: did you realize they had made the playoffs since two 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: thousand and seven. Then they go and win the Super Bowl. 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: But at the time, we thought, Okay, gets to play 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: in Florida, get away from New England. Weather Bruce arians 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: a fun coach to play for, offensive minded guy, former 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: quarterback in college, got some weapons there. We just thought 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: it was a nice story. And then people realized, oh, 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Tampa's got a top five defense. Tom had done his 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: homework and he was going to have a larger say. 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: And how good the Buccaneers were because Jameis Winston was 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: holding them back. Well, they win the Super Bowl. I'm 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: not saying j. J. Watt is going to help Arizona 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Let's see if they make the 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: playoffs first, and they were a team that lost eight 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: games last year. Five of the eight were by one score. 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Does JJ Watt help in that category? I guess. I 35 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: mean they did score. They outscored the opposition. Get Kyler 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: Murray another year, you got Chandler Jones, Buddha Baker, maybe 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald comes back, DeAndre Hopkins. Okay, but I think 38 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: what Arizona did is the Bidwells went out and got 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: him the owner. The owner, he went picked him up. 40 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: He said, we want you. Maybe that's all it needed. 41 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Now he got paid, got guaranteed money there. But here's 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: where the Texans made yet another mistake because they misread 43 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: the market the number of teams interested in JJ Watt. 44 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: This is where the Texans probably should have taken some 45 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: calls on JJ Watt. You could have gotten some draft 46 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: picks there. That's what they keep trying to acquire draft picks. 47 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Maybe you get a third rounder, maybe second rounder. You 48 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: get all these teams bidding against each other. I think 49 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: the Texans misread the market because how many teams. I 50 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: didn't know the Colts were interested. I didn't know Arizona 51 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: was interested. We knew Cleveland was, we knew Green Bay was, 52 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: we knew the Titans were. And then all of a sudden, 53 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: so there's five teams put it out there on the 54 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: open market. See what we get. Maybe you get a 55 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: couple of draft picks there. All I know is you 56 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: didn't get anything. And JJ goes to Arizona. Now, two 57 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: year deal. Their odds didn't jump up in Vegas. You know, 58 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: because he's a defensive player who's thirty two years of age. 59 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: This isn't a quarterback. A quarterback will change the odds. 60 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: Not a defensive player, or at least this defensive player. 61 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: If Aaron Donald changed teams and went to Seattle, Seattle's 62 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: super odds would improve dramatically. But he goes to a 63 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: team that we're not used to seeing be successful or 64 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: get these kind of players. They had their run with 65 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, but keep in mind when they got Kurt Warner, 66 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner was kicked to the curb by the Giants. 67 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: People didn't know that he was going to have, you know, 68 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: this resurgence latter part of his career and because of that, 69 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: became a Hall of Famer. But Texans could have misread 70 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: the market there could have gotten something in return. But 71 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: JJ Watt surprised everybody. I think yesterday as I was 72 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: ready to leave the man Cave, PAULI goes, it's in JJ. 73 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: You know what got a great source. It's JJ Watt 74 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: who was reporting where he's going. And he goes, it's 75 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: not one of the teams that you thought. And I go, 76 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: Chicago bears like we just started throwing out teams. We 77 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: weren't quite sure. Okay, it's not the teams that we thought, 78 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: and police says Arizona, and I go Arizona. Okay, Now, 79 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: if you haven't been to Arizona this time of the year, 80 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: you should try it. It's a wonderful place. Maybe not 81 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: for you in July and August, but this time of 82 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: the year certainly beautiful. That's another thing when you go 83 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: visit a school when you're being recruited. When you go 84 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: to Syracuse, you know, it's probably important that you go, 85 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: maybe not in the winter time. Certain places that you 86 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: go and you go, hey, come on in. You want 87 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: to see what the city's all about, the surroundings are 88 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: all about. You know, if you went to Buffalo last week, 89 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: you might go, I don't know, I'm not sure. And 90 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: then you go to Arizona. The owner sends his private plane. 91 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: He's on the private plane. You got your new wife. 92 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: You may say, hey, this is where we want to live. 93 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it's lifestyle there for him, But as far as 94 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: chasing the money, the reports are he could have made 95 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: more money and at least two of the other places there. 96 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: It may just be lifestyle. Maybe something as simple as that. 97 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: I thought, if I'm Kansas City, I make a run 98 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: at him. And I wondered if JJ would play for 99 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: a team has obviously a great chance to win a 100 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. How important is that for him? I don't know. 101 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: But he got where he wanted to go. He had 102 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: the opportunities to go to these other places, and here 103 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: he is. He's an Arizona Cardinal paired with Chandler Jones, 104 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker in there. I don't know if you know 105 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: you look at that defense and where it ranks in 106 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: that division, but you know you're going to get some 107 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: people's attention and the fact they were eight and eight 108 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: and if there are ten and sixteen, you make the playoffs. 109 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: I don't know what San Francisco is going to be 110 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: like because they can't decide on who is going to 111 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: be the quarterback that replaces Jimmy g The Rams, I 112 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: think are going to be formidable. Seattle. I'm not quite 113 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: sure with the drama going on in the off season, 114 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: but maybe he gets into the playoffs and maybe that's 115 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: enough for him. Eight seven seven three d P Show 116 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: email address DPA dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at 117 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: DP show. Here is JJ Watt after signing with the Cardinals. 118 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. My wife and I are very excited 119 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: to be here. Mister Bidwell, Steve, everybody here has been 120 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: unbelievable so far, and I'm just excited to get started. 121 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to get started, get to work, get 122 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: to know the people of Arizona, and to go to 123 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: work to try and help win a championship. And the 124 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: one thing that I can promise you is I'm gonna 125 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: work my ass off every single day to make you proud. 126 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: And I'm very proud to be a part of the 127 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: bird gang in the Red Sea. So let's get started. Yeah, 128 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: that's what I was waiting for a little bit more enthusiastic. 129 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: JJ Watt with a Watt is M. I just know 130 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: one thing. I'm gonna work my ass off, make you proud. 131 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: We're good guys. Who's with me? We're good ass dude, 132 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: Who's with me? Let's go on three? Yeah? Po. He 133 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: dropped it at forty push ups right after that interview, 134 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: right on the tarmac, of course. He did this program 135 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: brought to you by built Bar sixteen grams of protein, 136 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: low calorie, low carb and taste great taste, better than 137 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: a candy bar. Go to builtbar dot com promo co 138 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: DP twenty twenty percent off your first order. I have 139 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: a little more audio from J. J. Okay, here we be. 140 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: The philosophy of this squad is off the field. We're 141 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: good ass dudes, we're nice guys. We do the right 142 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: thing on the field. When you step on the field, 143 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: you're the baddest on the planet. And together we're the 144 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: baddest team on the planet. And that's the way we're 145 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: gonna attack every day. I don't care who walks into 146 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: our building. I don't care who's building we walk into. 147 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: We're the baddest out there. Texas on three. Sorry, I 148 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: thought that was yesterday, not yesterday. Not yesterday. Cardinals odds 149 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: didn't move in Vegas, Arizona. Forty to one to win 150 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, twenty to one to win the NFC. 151 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: That's tied for the eighth best odds. But JJ turns 152 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: thirty two on March twenty second, and uh, you know, 153 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: he's a future Hall of Famer. A lot of injuries there. 154 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: He's going to be an old thirty two when he 155 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: lines up to start this season. But fun little diversion 156 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: from all the quarterback controversy with JJ Watt signing. Mclovity 157 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: got a pull question for me. Yeah, if some JJ 158 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: Watt questions, Okay, I want to start with this one, 159 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: a little legacy question. At their peak, who would you 160 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: rather have JJ Watt or Aaron Donald. Well, I don't 161 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: know if I've seen Aaron Donald at his peak yet. Well, 162 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: he's about to turn thirty. Got hurt at the end 163 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: of last year, Science says he will, you've seen his peak? Yes. 164 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: I think JJ was more disruptive or got more publicity 165 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: for being more disruptive because he's knocking down passes, you know, 166 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: intercepting passes. It felt like JJ watt a lot of 167 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: attention with the way he played. Aaron Donald, I think 168 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: quietly surprisingly became the defensive player, the best defensive player. 169 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: I feel like Donald got some recognition the last year 170 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: or two, kind of like on primetime games, everyone sort 171 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: of focused on him a little bit. Yeah, but how 172 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: long has he been the best defensive player? We just 173 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: didn't recognize him as the best defensive player. I think 174 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: there were probably three years where he was the best guy, 175 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: but nobody recognized him. Well, we talked about the coach. 176 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: We talked about the coach and the quarterback. We weren't 177 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: talking about Aaron Donald. I think Aaron Donald was right 178 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: in front of us. We chose not to recognize him 179 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: as the best defensive player. First of all, he's not 180 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: doing endorsements, not a self promoter, You're not focusing on 181 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: him on the sidelines. All of these things that JJ 182 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: Watt was able to do, he garnered a lot of attention. 183 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: And I think because of that, you know, Aaron Donald 184 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: is not at the level of JJ Watt. But I 185 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: think part of that is just brand recognition. You know 186 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: that people sort of who cut people know JJ Watt. 187 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: I think you got to know football to know Aaron 188 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: Donald and the position he plays. You know, it's not 189 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: a glamor marquee position. You know he's a defensive lineman. 190 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: He's not a defensive not an edge rusher, but he 191 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: disrupts as many plays, if not more so, than JJ 192 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: Watt did, because when you're an edge rusher, you feel 193 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: like everything you do is built upon getting to the quarterback. 194 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: As you know, Aaron Donald gets to the quarterback, but 195 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: his job is to disrupt everything in the middle of 196 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: that line and make the quarterback uncomfortable going up the middle. 197 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: Not glamorous, and you got to watch him with his greatness, 198 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: but JJ was larger than life there and look, three 199 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: time defensive player of the Year and he's a Hall 200 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: of Famer. Yeah, McLevin. So I'm looking at the list 201 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: of Defensive Player of the Years, is only three guys 202 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: who've won it three times, JJ, Aaron Donald last year, 203 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: and LT. Yeah, but that doesn't mean Aaron Donald and 204 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: JJ Watt are right better than Reggie White and ray Lewis. 205 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm curious how that ended up, being like Reggie White 206 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: didn't win more than twice. That seems funny to me. Yeah, 207 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: you can make a case at Reggie White is the 208 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: best pass rusher of all time. Now, might not have 209 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: the numbers there, but you can make a case. And 210 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: also keep in mind when Reggie White signed with Green Bay, 211 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: like that was the first time it felt like in 212 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: free agency you went, Wow, anything is possible because you 213 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: went Green Bay and Reggie White went there at the 214 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: end of his career. You know, you see these guys 215 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: when they leave, when do they leave? And then what 216 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: kind of impact do they have when they go to 217 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: another team? And Reggie had a huge impact when he 218 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: went to the Packers. Yep. On you know, Lawrence Taylor's 219 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: last three or four years, he was injured and beat 220 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: up and wasn't Lawrence Taylor. He was an All Pro 221 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: as a rook I mean, it's so rare to be 222 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: All Pro. It's a rookie. I think Quenton Nelson's the 223 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: only guy around these days. Lawrence Taylor was six for 224 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: six his first six years, six times All Pro, seven 225 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: eight of its first ten years all Pro, not Pro 226 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Ball All Pro. Also, when you start to look at 227 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: sack numbers, there's more opportunities here. And if you played 228 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: back in the sixties or seventies, First of all, they 229 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: weren't keeping track of sacks back then. But now you're 230 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: throwing fifty times in a game, and you never did that. 231 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: I give you throw twenty five times back in the 232 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 1: sixties and seventies. That felt like an awful lot. You 233 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback truly managed a game back then, and that's 234 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: why you didn't have quarterbacks throw thirty touchdowns in a season. 235 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Now it feels like everybody should be thrown for four 236 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,479 Speaker 1: thousand yards and at least twenty five to thirty touchdowns, 237 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: and everybody should be completing sixty five percent of their passes. 238 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: It's a pass happy league. Therefore, your going to get 239 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: more opportunities for sacks. You know, Chandler Jones has almost 240 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: one hundred sacks. Isn't that amazing? And if you look 241 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: at his numbers compared to JJ Watt over the last 242 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: what five to six years, that's it's really close in 243 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: what they've done. Now JJ has been injured. But nobody 244 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: knows Chandler Jones. I mean, you have to be a 245 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: football fan to know Chandler Jones, but you get one. 246 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean, is he a Hall of Famer? How many 247 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: guys have had one hundred sacks in their career and 248 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: not made it into the Hall of Fame. I'd be curious. Yeah, 249 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: I mclub, you know it just real quick on Aaron 250 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: dond though he was second in the league in sacks, 251 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: but he did it from the inside. That's crazy. Yes, 252 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: but nobody does that though, even why he has, He's 253 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: more disruptive than any other defensive player because it's up 254 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: the middle. Yeah, up the middle changes every thing. If 255 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: you're an edge rusher, I double you and I can 256 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: keep you away up the middle. Aaron Donald is wreaking havoc. 257 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: And you know Warren Sapp was able to do this. 258 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: There's certain guys who play, you know, interior defensive line, 259 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: but to create I'd rather have Aaron Donald in the 260 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: middle than I would JJ watt On on the wing, 261 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: because up the middle, now I make the quarterback move 262 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: one way or another. On the edge, I double you, 263 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: and you know I can always I can still stay 264 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: in the pocket there. And that's why I think what 265 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald does is not glamorous, but he is. You know, 266 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer because of this, you know, 267 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: winning three Defensive Players of the Year award. All right, um, 268 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: any other poll question suggestions Aaron McLevin. Yeah, and by 269 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: the way, we're pulling that stat on a hundred sacks, 270 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: it's really kind of interesting. Yeah, I'm just curious if 271 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: somebody got to one hundred and they're not considered a 272 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer or potential Hall of Famer. Yeah, palling, 273 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: I've got the list all time. There's a bunch of 274 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: guys over one hundred, but the line of demarcation is 275 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty sacks. Of the guys with 276 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: over more than one hundred and twenty sacks, there's certain 277 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: guys that might not go to the Hall of Fame, 278 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: like John Abraham has one thirty three, Jared Allen has 279 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: one thirty six, they're in the era of the passing era, 280 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: so they got more opportunity. Lessie O'Neil one thirty two, 281 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: they're probably not going to the Hall of Fame. Terrell 282 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: Suggs one thirty nine, he probably is. DeMarcus ware has 283 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: won thirty eight, he probably is. M Robert And then 284 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys that the one twenty mark, 285 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: like Robert Mathis and Simeon Rice and Clyde Simmons and 286 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Sean Jones. They're not going to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, 287 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: so maybe it is twenty five in at an area. 288 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: But then there's you know, if the pace at Chanleon 289 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: Jones is on right now, he's flying to one twenty. 290 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: But how old is he? Thirty? He was the youngest 291 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: player in the league his first year and the Patriots 292 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: let him go. He remember he had some troubles walking 293 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: in the police department in Boston and they moved on 294 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: easily and didn't pay him. Yeah, he's better shape than 295 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: his brother is, oh John jo John Jones. Yeah. Um, 296 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: one guy at Dwight Freeneye's a Hall of Famer, right is. Yeah, 297 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: he's not in yet. I just looked. I don't know 298 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: if he's when he's eligible. He played forever. That's a 299 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: probably a problem twenty five sons. But Mathis, Robert Mathis 300 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: does not feel like a Hall of Famer. He was 301 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: never a very big star. No, it felt like Freenie 302 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: his style got more attention. Plus he's a good story. 303 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't vote, wouldn't want the opportunity 304 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: to vote on the Hall of Fame. It's a thankless job. 305 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: But it feels like if you put Freeny and you 306 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: got to put Mathis in, But it feels like freenyet 307 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: got a lot more attention than than Mathis did. Yeah, mclub. 308 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: If we are another poll question, by the way, what's 309 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: the question for the Cardinals? Are they a Super Bowl contender? 310 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: Question mark? Or are they going to make the playoffs? 311 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: Like what's the expectation? It's a fair poll. Well, I 312 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: would start with just the playoffs because they're eight and 313 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: eight and they're in a tough division, kind of a 314 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: soft eight and eight. I might add, really, yeah, they 315 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: had remember they jumped out early because they played like 316 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: all those zero win teams and then they beat the 317 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: Bills on a Hail Mary and then they disappeared. Yeah, 318 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: but you lost a lot of close games. You know, 319 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: five of the eight were by one score. I think 320 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: three of those were by three points or less. Kyler 321 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: another year. I don't know how much you can rely 322 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: on Larry Fitzgerald. You know, do you have a quality 323 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: running game? Take pressure off Kyler? Do you trust Cliff? 324 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: That's what I wonder, because you had some questions when 325 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: they hired him. Well, he wasn't a great college coach, 326 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, I had questions about him. But it feels 327 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: like they're moving in the right direction. But you gotta 328 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: get that defense together. I guess Patch Repeaterson back. Is 329 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick gonna be back? You got Buddha Baker, you 330 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: got Chandler Jones, Okay, but you know, I think there's 331 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: some question marks there. Yeah, PAULI these sacks stats are nutty. 332 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: Just people people don't remember Bruce Smith and Reggie White. 333 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Bruce Smith for his career has the same amount of 334 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: sacks as JJ Watton Von Miller combined. Those guys are 335 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: both first ballot Hall of Famers, right? Is that fair 336 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: to say Von Miller's and JJ Watter probably first ballot? 337 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: Bruce Smith has two hundred secks. Von and JJ have 338 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: about two or five together. Reggie White has one ninety 339 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: eight and imagine them playing now with the number of 340 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: opportunities you would get with the number of passing attempts. 341 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: Be crazy. All right, we'll take a break and settle 342 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: on a pull question. Phone calls are always welcome eight 343 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: seven seven three d P Show email address DP at 344 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show say 345 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: good morning, Good morning to our radio affiliates. Our TV 346 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: partner is Peacock Twitter handle at d show. We'll come 347 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: back with our poll question. Phone calls will check in 348 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals coming up a little bit later 349 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: on Kyrie Irving is on record is saying there's no 350 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: tension in Houston when James Harden returns tomorrow and James 351 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: Harden getting a lot of attention now for MVP, I'll 352 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: tell you why he should not. Also, Tuatonga Voloa has 353 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: an interesting comparison with his former quarterbacking teammate at Alabama, 354 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. 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Up on Game We're going to be 374 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: sharing our real life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen 375 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: to Up on Game with Me, LeVar Arrington, t J. Hushmansatta, 376 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 377 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts from. I wondered aloud. The 378 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: last time you had two teammates who had at least 379 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: one hundred career sacks together. Last time it happened was 380 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, John Randall and Chris Doleman. Prior to that, 381 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: Leslie O'Neil, Derrick Thomas. Who else in here? Chris Doleman, 382 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Greene, Bruce Smith, Jim Jeffcode, Reggie White, Sean Jones, 383 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: Reggie White also in here again, Bruce Smith in here again, 384 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: Ricky Jackson, and Richard Dent. Dwight Freeney mathis reached one 385 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: hundred in Indian twenty thirteen. That was Freeney's first year 386 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: in San Diego. But you're going to have JJ Watt, 387 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: who already has one hundred sacks, and Chandler Jones is 388 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: on the doorstep there to get one hundred sacks in 389 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: his career. Dan Bickley, the sports columnist radio host on 390 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: Arizona Sports ninety eight point seven FM, is back with 391 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: us VIC. Great to talk to you again. How's morale 392 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: in Arizona? I'd never been better day, And I'd tell 393 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: you nothing like a star, superstar like JJ Watt to 394 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 1: make you conveniently forget a football team that really choked 395 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: a playoff birth that was right in front of him 396 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: last year in Arizona. So he is the big feel 397 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: good story, he's the big rallying point. It's a great 398 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: public relations move for this franchise. Dan, did anybody have 399 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: any inkling that Arizona was on the radar for jj No. 400 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about it, but we kind of 401 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: assumed a couple of things here. Number one, that JJ 402 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Watt wouldn't want to come to a team that was 403 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: kind of not exactly Super Bowl close. And secondarily, the 404 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: Cardinals have a lot of deeds, man, and we just 405 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: didn't think they'd go shopping for a luxury item like 406 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: JJ Watt. But there's been a lot of stuff going 407 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. DeAndre Hopkins has been an active recruiter. 408 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: You know, maybe the Cardinals will go full blast here 409 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: and try to get into the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes. That 410 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: would be something. Well, I did wonder about that, and 411 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: I know this was on social media yesterday, because you 412 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: could send Kyler Murray back to Texas where he's a 413 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: legend high school legend there. But do you think that 414 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals would entertain the possibility of trying to trade 415 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson. You know what I would, given their 416 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: history with the Texans, I would never say no to anything. 417 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a little too much for them to 418 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: chew off VP. But you know, there are serious questions 419 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. The kid flashed. But I mean you guys, 420 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: as a radio broadcast, you are one of the first 421 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: to see how sometimes not relatable he can be in 422 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: and how quirky can be communicating with him. And he's 423 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: not exactly this full blown leader like they have in 424 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo with Josh Allen. So to me, the quarterback piece 425 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: in Arizona is tantalizing as Kyler Murray looks. I still 426 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of questions about this kid and how 427 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: comfortable he's going to feel playing in the NFL, given 428 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: his size and given his limitations, and given the fact 429 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: that this offense around him last year did nothing if 430 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't taking off and running with the football. So 431 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: if I with them, I try to make this whole 432 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: thing at Texans reunion here in Arizona, I put I 433 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: throw my head and no doubt about it. I'm also 434 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: trying to figure out out where the Cardinals rank their 435 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl edge didn't change with the signing of JJ Watt. 436 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: Their odds to win the NFC West did not change whatsoever. No, 437 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: I still have a lot of question marks here. I 438 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: don't know how long you can rely on Larry Fitzgerald. 439 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: Are you going to keep the defense together? There? DeAndre 440 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: Hopkins is wonderful, But I just don't know about this team. 441 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're a spoiler. Yeah. The 442 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: thing about this football team is the signing of JJ 443 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: Watt is great for a lot of different reasons. But 444 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals didn't have issues on defense last year. They 445 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: had Hassan Reddick and a special teams guy named Dennis 446 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: Gardeck combined for over twenty sacks. Defense wasn't their issue. 447 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: The issue is this offense and this head coach in 448 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, who's been thoroughly overmatched in two years at 449 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: the Helm here, and whether or not this thing is 450 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: going to ascend, and whether or not he can build 451 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: an offense featuring Kyler Murray that doesn't rely on these 452 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: helter skelter scrambles, and that's the big issue. And then 453 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: where are the wide receivers going to come from? This 454 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: is a team that drafted Andy Isabella over DK Metcalf, 455 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: and they're not the only team to miss on DK Metcalf, 456 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: but they've missed on a lot of guys recently. So 457 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues here that JJ Watt does 458 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: not solve, which is kind of what's interesting about this. 459 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, they need a culture creator 460 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: here in the worst way. They need a guy who 461 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: comes in and sets a level of accountability because there's 462 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of that around here. This team 463 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: is highly penalized. They don't always show up ready to 464 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: play on Sunday afternoons, so you know, focus is an issue, 465 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: so they need somebody to get them on points. Given 466 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: the weird dynamics of the hierarchy here in Arizona, are 467 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: are you sold on Cliff Kingsbury is the coach? Oh? 468 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I mean I really I was in on 469 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: this at the very beginning, coming out of what we 470 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: experienced in Arizona post Bruce Area. The offense under Mike 471 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: McCoy's about as awful as you could imagine, and that's 472 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: saying something in Arizona, and I think what we all 473 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: did here was like, heck, yeah, we'll take a shot 474 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: on somebody who's got a renowned offensive reputation in college, 475 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: but he did it running a system that doesn't work 476 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: full blown in the NFL. So to me, Cliff Kingsbury 477 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: was a hail Mary. It was a swing of the bat, 478 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: and from what I've seen, particularly at the end of 479 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: last year, I'm just not that impressed. I don't think 480 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: this thing is gonna work. But who knows. If Kyler 481 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: Murray has the kind of year in year three, if 482 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: he takes a quantum leap, he'll take everybody along with him. 483 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: You're kind of a buzz kill, Like I've heard that before. 484 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: He maybe JJ wat should have spoken to you, maybe 485 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: he would fire you up. Yeah, no, listen, it's I 486 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: am fired up about JJ Watt. This football team really 487 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: needed something to grasp on to move past the way 488 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: last season ended where they got manhandled by injury decimated 489 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: forty nine ers team and then there was a debaccle 490 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: of a game at the end of the year against 491 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: the Rams. Both times they win, they get in the playoffs, 492 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: and they were at their very worst. So yeah, I've 493 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of cause for concern, but I am 494 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: very happy that there's something positive to rally around you. 495 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: We've also got Chris Paul and he's been terrific in Phoenix. 496 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: Do you like the chances of the Suns better than 497 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals? I do. I think if DeAndre Ayton can 498 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: round into a player who has who can sort of 499 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: end the passivity and and if he can play with 500 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: a little more ferocity, I think this team has got 501 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: a real shot. They got a couple of guys in 502 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: the final five minutes of the playoff game in Chris 503 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: Paul and Devin Booker who can light you up, and 504 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: they can get these games to a finish line. And 505 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: I think the depth of talent around him right now 506 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: is good enough that they're going to be in this game. Yeah, 507 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: I think they got a shot at the Western Conference finals. 508 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to have you on, you know, as 509 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: we get closer to the NFL playoffs and the Cardinals 510 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: are in the playoffs, and then see what you think. 511 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: I hope you're right. You know, I'm always here for 512 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: you DP. Thank you, Dan. That's Dan Bickley, the sports 513 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: columnist radio host on Arizona Sports ninety eight point seven 514 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: fn BIT. Great to talk to you again. Thank you, buddy, 515 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. To The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 516 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 517 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 518 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 519 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Ross 520 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Tucker never quit on any of his teams. Some of 521 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: his teams ask him to quit. The former NFL player 522 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: now the host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, also 523 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: the analyst for Westwood One. Kind enough to join us? 524 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: How are you? Ross? Dan? I'm fantastic. Set them on 525 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: chat row right now at Dan Patrick dot com and 526 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: I can't figure out how to change my avatar. I 527 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: gotta get this beautiful meathead Games Vanderbeek picture on there. 528 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: So I'm just a like the people on Twitter I 529 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: hate right now, I'm a nameless, faceless guy. You two 530 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: look like a bigger James Vanderbeek, like I see it, Like, 531 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: come a thicker beef here, James Vanderbeek. Yeah, I've always 532 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: gotten that one and Putty from Seinfeld. Those are the 533 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: two I've gotten a million times. The thing is, it's like, 534 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: I don't think either one of those guys looked like 535 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: each other. I don't get the Meathead Vanderbeek one. I 536 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: kind of get the putty one. He's a big guy. 537 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: Go devils, God, support the team. I never really understood 538 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: the Vanderbeek one, but enough people say it, and I 539 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: don't know how we One day you were out and 540 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: I was filling in. They call me meathead Vanderbeek and well, 541 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Fritzie looks like PAULI from Rocky, which I hate, but 542 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: he does look like PAULI from Rocky. You know what. 543 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: I never heard that before. And Fritzie, I kind of 544 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: see it. A little bank here, thanks at. I can't 545 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: remember what I can't remember what movie it was, but 546 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: what is up with you taking all a rock He's 547 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: hard earned money. I mean he's in there punching people 548 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: getting punched, and then you spend and blow all his money. Fritzie, 549 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: I think was that Rocky four that you didn't then 550 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: I did in the Soviet Union there? Yeah, I think 551 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: that was the one I was pocketing. All right. Your 552 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: reaction to JJ Watt going to Arizona's what what uh? 553 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: Initial reaction? Dan was surprised because it hadn't been one 554 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: of the teams that had been reported, right, You'd heard 555 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: a lot about the Bills, the Browns, certainly the Packers. 556 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: It felt like the Arizona Cardinals kind of came out 557 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: of nowhere. You know. Look, I'll be honesstand. I think 558 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: he went to the place off from the most money, 559 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: and I've got no problem with that whatsoever. You know, 560 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times people say he should 561 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: have gone here for a ring, or should have gone 562 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,239 Speaker 1: there for a ring, like look at the look at 563 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: the Vegas odds. Okay, it's really hard to win a ring. 564 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: So would the Packers have a better chance in the Cardinals? Yeah, 565 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: would the Buffalo Bills have a better chance than the Cardinals? Probably, 566 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: But the Packers haven't been in Super Bowl in ten years, 567 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: So okay, he goes there marginally better chance to go 568 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. Or he goes to Buffalo Bill 569 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: they haven't been in the super Bowl in almost thirty years. 570 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: Whatever it is. I think the only thing you know 571 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: for sure, Dan, is the money that you're going to 572 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: get from that contract. And I know fans don't want 573 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: to hear this, and I know all of your listeners 574 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: want guys to just go where they think they have 575 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: a best chance to win a ring. Is it likely 576 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Probably not, but this is his last big 577 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: bite at the Apple. They gave him the most guaranteed money. 578 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: It sounds like by far. I don't blame him one bit. 579 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: They don't have is gonna chance to win the Super 580 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: Bowls some of these other teams, but they do have 581 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: a chance. They're not a terrible team, and he gets 582 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: the guaranteed money he was looking for. I don't blame him. 583 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: I think this just comes down to lifestyle for jj Watt, 584 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: and I have no problem with that. I know we 585 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: want guys to chase the ring until they chase the ring, 586 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: and then we criticize you for chasing the ring. I 587 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: think jj Watt probably looked at this and said, it's 588 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: a good team, maybe not a great team. I can 589 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: be a leader there. And you know his wife is 590 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: from Utah. Maybe this is just comes down to something 591 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: simple of you know, the money was important, but lifestyle 592 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: as well. If you've been to Scottsdale this time of 593 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: the year, it's a wonderful place to live. And maybe 594 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: that's all this was all right. A couple other things 595 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: here I mentioned first hour, I have the perfect landing 596 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: spot for Alex Smith. Washington football team doesn't want him anymore. 597 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: He's thirty six years of age. And do you want 598 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: to know what my pick is? I have a guess. Okay, 599 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: I was not listening. I'm gonna guess Chicago Bears, Jacksonville Jaguars. 600 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: Oh oh interesting reunited with Urban Meyer at age thirty six. 601 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna be drafting Trevor Lawrence. You're able to sort 602 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: of be that liaison, backup quarterback, offensive coordinator, assistant, head coach, 603 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and not a lot of pressure there. 604 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: Maybe you start out as the starter as Trevor Lawrence 605 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: gets acclimated there. But I thought Alex Smith on that 606 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: roster made a whole lot of sense for Urban Meyer. Yeah, 607 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: it's the first time I've heard that, Dan. I like it. 608 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: What I really like the most about it is for 609 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I mean, Alex Smith is an awesome guy, 610 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: consummate professional. If you listen to Patrick Mahomes talk about 611 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: Alex Smith and what Alex did for Mahomes that first year, 612 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes gives Alex Smith a ton of credit. So 613 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: from Jacksonville's perspective, it absolutely makes sense, especially with Trevor 614 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: having this torn labram shoulder. Surgery. Maybe you don't want 615 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: him out there week one, Maybe he needs a couple 616 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: of weeks. The thing I don't like about it, Dan, 617 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't think Alex wants to really be a backup. 618 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in his mouth, but 619 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: I think Alex wants to play him. He's made a 620 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: ton of money. He may not, he may not have 621 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: a choice, though. I think you're right. I don't think 622 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: I think it'd be tough for any team right now 623 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: to say Alex Smith is our guy. You know, the 624 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: one place right now is that maybe Matt Nagee, who 625 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: worked with him in Kansas City, thinks I can win 626 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: ten games with Alex. He'll be better than Trabiski or 627 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: Foles would be. But you know that injury he suffered. 628 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: Dan is just so tricky. There's a reason why he 629 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 1: had calf issues at the end of the season. There's 630 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: a reason why he couldn't play in the playoff game. 631 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't think any team is going to hitch their 632 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: wagon Alex Smith. I think you're right, and I think 633 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: Jacksonville probably does end up becoming maybe his best spot. 634 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: We haven't had you on since the Russell Wilson story. 635 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: Blew up, and the fact that his agent publicly says 636 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: to Adam Schefter, Hey, if we want to stay, but 637 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: if we get traded, here's the four teams here. To me, 638 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: that felt like that's that's the end. That's you can't 639 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: be one foot in and one foot out. You can't 640 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: be sort of pregnant. And it feels like, hey, we 641 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: want to stay, but what do you think happens with 642 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson eventually? Yeah, So two separate and distinct things 643 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: here in my mind. Number one, you know, for him 644 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: to go on with you and say the things that 645 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: he said, I was really surprised. I've always been a 646 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: big Russell Wilson fan, big Russell Wilson supporter, but to 647 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: say that he's tired of getting hit so much. You know, hey, Russell, 648 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: you kind of have the ball in your hand, you 649 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: kind of control that. How about throwing the ball away? 650 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: How about getting rid of the ball sooner? You know. 651 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: I will just tell you, as a former offensive lineman, 652 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: I took offense to that right like that was like 653 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: publicly calling out his offensive line and to some extent, 654 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: in my mind, publicly calling himself out. What happened to 655 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: that personal accountability, personal responsibility. You don't see Tom Brady 656 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: say I'm sick of getting hit too much, or Drew 657 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: Brees they get rid of the ball. So that bothered me. 658 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: And then this whole thing of he doesn't want to 659 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: go somewhere else, but if he does, these are the team. 660 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: What does that even mean? He doesn't want to go 661 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: somewhere else, but if he does, these are the teams. 662 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know Dan if he really 663 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: wants to leave, or if he's figured out that the 664 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: best way to have everybody talking about you is to 665 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: leak that you want to go somewhere else, and to 666 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: even start to leak specifically. I mean, people in Chicago 667 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: were going crazy. There's I saw some guy tweet that 668 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson saying he wanted to go to the Bears 669 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: is the third best quarterback in Bears history. Just Russell 670 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: Wilson's saying he wanted to go to the Bears. I mean, 671 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: why would he want to go there? Why? Like, why 672 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: would you want to go to the Bears? That doesn't 673 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: make sense. That was Pauli who tweeted that Ross. It 674 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: was Paully said it's the third greatest moment for a 675 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: potential Bears quarterback that Russ just mentioned the Bears on 676 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: his wish list of four. You just think he wants 677 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: to be talked about, and that's why they're leaking onto this. 678 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: There are people that believe that Russell Wilson sort of 679 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: fancies himself Dan as as like the football Magic Johnson 680 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: over the next ten twenty years of his life and 681 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: wants to have that type of business impact. He is 682 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: really into investing. He's really into doing deals where he 683 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: gets equity, and he's got a lot of people that 684 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: he talks to. It's my understanding, and I think that 685 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: part of it might be. I don't think it's all 686 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: of it. I think there is some frustration that they 687 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: haven't been able to get back to the super Bowl. 688 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: But let's just say this, I think he has realized 689 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: that his name being in the news is not a 690 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: negative for all of the other things he wants to 691 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: accomplish off the field. We're talking to Ross Tucker, former 692 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: NFL player and a host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. 693 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: Also Ross's birthday today. Happy birthday, Ross, Thank you. I 694 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 1: am twice the legal drinking limit, so I will have 695 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: some Daddy sodas tonight, I will say this then I 696 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: don't like birthdays anymore. I'm at the age where I 697 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: no longer like I'm like forty two that I don't 698 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: like birthdays. My wife thinks I'm weird. It's like, well, 699 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: it's better than the alternative, but I don't. I'm not 700 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: loving birthdays anymore. I think up until like thirty five, 701 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: I still liked my birthday. Now I'm like, no, we 702 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 1: don't need to talk about it, and maybe that means 703 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm a weirdo. Now I don't know what not loving it? 704 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: Do you did you get Well, no, you weren't playing 705 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: in Februar or March, so you wouldn't get gifts from 706 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: your teammates when when you played right. No, but um, 707 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: you know we obviously got gifts at around Christmas time. 708 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: There were some guys that were better than others. Dan Oh, 709 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: look Drew Bledsoe. But one year he got us two 710 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: plane tickets anywhere you wanted to go. So that's where 711 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: my wife and I went on a honeymoon to Hawaii 712 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: thanks to Bledsoe's plane tickets. The next year he gave 713 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: us Motorola droid razor when that was like the coolest phone, 714 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: and he paid the bill unlimited minutes for like three 715 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: years until his mom called me and was like, hi, Ross, 716 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: this is Barbara Bledsoe, um Drew's mom. The gift is 717 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: over now. Meanwhile, uh Dan, there was Emmett Smith who 718 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: my second year I started the last seven games for Emmett. 719 00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: He gave us signed Emmett Smith all time leading rusher book, 720 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 1: signed Emmett Smith jersey, and a signed bottle of Emmett 721 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: Smith all time leading rusher wine, a wine bottle that 722 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: he signed. It was so you were probably mad when 723 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: Brady took over for Drew Bledsoe, because that meant you 724 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: were not getting any great gifts. Well, so the funny 725 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: thing is you really only get the gift if you're 726 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 1: a starter. So I only got the gift three years 727 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: my second year, in my third year, in my fourth year, 728 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: my rookie year, I didn't get one of the gifts 729 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: from Tony Banks whoever it was a Washington when I 730 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: was in New England, I didn't get a gift from anybody. 731 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: So yeah, you really only get the gift if you're 732 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: a starter. But it is pretty sweet. I've seen some 733 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: of the gifts these guys get now, they're unbelievable. They 734 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: get like four wheelers and stuff that would have been amazing. 735 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: How many how many plays did you play with Brady Zero? 736 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: I started, and no, in all sincerity, I only played. 737 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: So the Patriots picked me up midway through the oh 738 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: five year. I only played the fourth quarter of the 739 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: Dolphins game Week seventeen when Matt Castle came in and 740 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: Doug Flute he did the drop kick. And I played 741 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: on special teams against the Broncos. You know, that's one 742 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: of my claim to fames Dan. I only ever played 743 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: in one playoff game, and it was the first playoff 744 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: game that Brady ever lost. Brady was like ten and 745 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: oh in the playoffs until I got in. And then, uh, 746 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: let's say it again. Did Brady know your name? Absolutely? Okay, yeah, 747 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: because I think he come to anything to get signed. 748 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: The first thing he does come up to you and 749 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: he's like, shakes your hand, Hi, Ross, I'm Tom. Nice 750 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: to be doing, like, Hi Tom, I know who you are. 751 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: And then uh he I was the center a lot 752 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: in practice, so he would come in the huddle and 753 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: be like, all right, Ross, you and me great snap first, 754 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: like he takes it real, real, seriously, So he definitely 755 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: definitely knew who I was. And then oh six, I 756 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: got traded to Cleveland. So I never actually was in 757 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: a regular season game with Tom Brady. Give me that 758 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: impersonation of Brady again in the huddle. So before he 759 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: calls the play, he looks at me and Dan, this 760 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: is like spring OTAs. He's already won three super Bowls. 761 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, Ross, you and me, great snap first, 762 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: greats that first. And Dan, I'm like twenty six, twenty seven, 763 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: I've started twenty five games. I looked at my buck 764 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: all right, man, all right, But in my head, I'm like, okay, Tom, 765 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, this is this is I gotta say this. Dan. 766 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: He lives his life differently than anybody else. So I 767 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: played eighteen years of football. I was aligneman most of 768 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: the time. The quarterback center exchange is so mundane. It's 769 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,479 Speaker 1: so like you take a ball, you hit your butt, 770 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: crack with it. The quarterbacks top hand is there, boom, quarterbacks, 771 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah whatever. I never play with a quarterback that cared 772 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: nearly as much about that snap as Brady. And this 773 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: is practice. But like in his psychopath head, he wanted 774 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 1: that like that smack when he hit the top hand 775 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,479 Speaker 1: because that man, it was a perfect snap. He could 776 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: look at the defense a little sooner, so like, think 777 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: about anything in life, okay, and you just you're just 778 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: doing something to do it. Brady doesn't look at anything 779 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: like that. Brady looks at every single thing in his 780 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: life as a chance to get just a little bit 781 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: better at it and try to perfess. That's why he 782 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: is who he is. You're the best. Hey, Happy birthday, Ron, 783 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: So I hope you don't get any gifts today. You don't, 784 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: thank you, Dan. See you, guys. I'll be back on 785 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: chat row right now. Shout out chat row and back row. 786 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: All right. That's Ron's Tucker, former NFL player and host 787 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: of the Ross Tucker Football podcast.