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Speaker 1: a strategy session. You might be wondering, why don't you

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Speaker 1: it's time to stand up. Nice try blood clots.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweet and welcome to the now Dunes podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, January tenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Here in the Classic Factory and alongside me, as always

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Speaker 3: tast smell it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, fans of real basketball, fans of trades, this one's

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Speaker 4: for you.

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Speaker 3: Next to him, it's the Beard one a tough shot boy,

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Speaker 3: Trey Kirby, Hey, hey yo, and over Yonder the man

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Speaker 3: making the magic happen. Super producer JD. Hello, there he is,

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Speaker 3: and here we are. Sorry we're a little late. We

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Speaker 3: were trying to figure out the song that goes dog

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Speaker 3: Dog Dog Dog Dog Dog Dog.

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Speaker 2: What song is that?

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Speaker 4: Is that one song?

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Speaker 3: We don't even know if those are both in the

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Speaker 3: same song. You're convinced they are, are we sure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, I don't know. Well, let us know a

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Speaker 3: It did?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Well what song is that?

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Speaker 3: Anyway? Shout up to the stream team. Hopefully they're telling

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Speaker 3: us right now what those songs are or song is

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Speaker 3: rating and review as anybody chimed in yet? Do we

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: Who's he saying? He thinks it's two different songs? Oh,

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Speaker 6: Sibody says, here comes the hot Stepper.

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Speaker 2: Obviously not. Oh, here's the answers from Casey.

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Speaker 3: Come Baby, Come, Baby, Baby Come Come.

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Speaker 2: That's the one for sure.

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Speaker 3: It is the same song.

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Speaker 2: Baby, that's a good song.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll figure it out. We got a playback

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Speaker 3: tomorrow at two pm Eastern. Yeah, we usually do these

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Speaker 3: at night, jumping on and watching League Pass, but we

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Speaker 3: had a game in Paris tomorrow at to be on

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Speaker 3: Eastern again. We'll be live on playback. That link is

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Speaker 3: there in Paris versus the nets. So come join us,

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Speaker 3: Come kick it with us as we watch a little

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Speaker 3: Darko Yakovic going on a furious table pounding tirade against

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Speaker 3: This is completely bias. This is shame.

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Speaker 5: Shame for the red freeze, shame for the lead to

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Speaker 7: I understand respect for all stars and all that, but

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Speaker 7: They had to win tonight if that's If that's the case,

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Speaker 4: Just give them a win. But that was not fair tonight.

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Speaker 5: And this is not happening first time for us.

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Speaker 3: Crap, complete crap. That is a portion of Darko's epic

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Speaker 3: Melis thought the officials never gave them a chance. They

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Speaker 4: that was a damn good game. That is what makes

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Speaker 3: What do you think, TK, You know we're bias Raptors fans.

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Speaker 6: need to show up. Tast basically ran through it. Four

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Speaker 6: they still took eleven free throws in three and a

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Speaker 6: tough seeing Quickly go out on fouls back to back,

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Speaker 3: To Anton Davis, who I think did a good job

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Speaker 4: I do love this from Darko Rakovic. This is his

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Speaker 4: We've heard what he said about Malachi Flynn.

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Speaker 4: You're so much better. Like he is just doing his job,

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Speaker 3: Well, you saw it there last night when the game's

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Speaker 3: Phil Jackson the zen Master. We smoked some wacky tobacci

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Speaker 3: He's gonna get a huge fine. You're right, Trey, I

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Speaker 3: don't know how big this is. Like, was it Jenkins

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Speaker 3: I guess he'll just get the same here, Darko, what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he got his money's worth.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna do it, you're gonna call

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Instagram story from Drake, he might just cover

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's right.

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Speaker 4: He came the guyser when he smoked that wacky tobacco.

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Speaker 4: He's got his teammates back, or his team's back, I

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Speaker 4: So it's it's clear that he's in Barnes corner and

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Speaker 4: We'll get into the Seakam trades potentially here a little

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Speaker 4: I think I think he's staying because of that guy.

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Speaker 3: It was just like, well, you know, we got we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he did. He bring up that other one where

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Speaker 3: He was talking about the jail and breen Jaalen Brown

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Speaker 2: It's tied out.

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Speaker 4: But okay, Lebron's gonna do that. Lebron's gonna have a

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Speaker 3: Complaining about the officiating in a game that he wasn't

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Speaker 3: When's the next Ben Taylor versus the Raptors game, That's

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Speaker 3: We have to look into that one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it sucks that the next game is April. I

436
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 4: think it's going to be a while before we get rapslikers,

437
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Speaker 4: and I don't think Ben Taylor will.

438
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Speaker 3: Be probably not, probably not. Okay, So other games last night,

439
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to throw up a board here for

440
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Speaker 3: you guys or JD. Will I should say, we had

441
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 3: the Knicks improving to a perfect five and oh with

442
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 3: og they crushed the Blazers. Sabonis had thirty seven points

443
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,959
Speaker 3: led the Kings to a wild one thirty one, one

444
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker 3: ten victory over the Pistons, who were up. As you

445
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Speaker 3: see there, it says forty seven points for the Pistons

446
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 3: in the first quarter, but they got blown out in

447
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 3: the end. That's a that's tough to do. Bain scored

448
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 3: thirty two to help the injury riddled Grizzlies beat the

449
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 3: mass press of wind from then and Karl Anthony Town

450
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 3: scored twenty three of his twenty eight in the first half.

451
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 3: Wolves led from start to finish. Big win over the

452
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Speaker 3: Magic k Any thoughts on any of those four games, Yeah,

453
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Speaker 3: four blowouts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, closest game was seventeen points.

455
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 4: Hey yeah, yeah.

456
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Speaker 6: That Pistons game, though, that's honestly ridiculous. They scored forty

457
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Speaker 6: seven in the first quarter. Like you said, they had

458
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 6: a twenty point lead in the first quarter and they

459
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 6: were down by halftime. That doesn't make sense.

460
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Speaker 4: I know there was a.

461
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Speaker 6: Possession or a stretch in the second quarter where they

462
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Speaker 6: had five straight turnovers, and there are two turnovers in

463
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Speaker 6: those five where they completely lose the ball. You're watching

464
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Speaker 6: the highlight back, You're like, this is the turnover. They

465
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Speaker 6: somehow save it and then continue to turn it over

466
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Speaker 6: on that same possession. Unbelievable stuff. Down by halftime, down

467
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Speaker 6: double digits three minutes into the second half, and they

468
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 6: lost by twenty one. That's like Baxter eating the full

469
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Speaker 6: wheel of cheese. Not even mad, I'm just impressed they.

470
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Speaker 6: I think the Pistons need to send Messai Jiri a

471
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Speaker 6: fruit basket. Okay, because if not for that game on

472
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Speaker 6: the night of the og An Andobi trade, when the

473
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Speaker 6: Pistons beat the Raptors by two points, Yep, they would

474
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 6: be on a thirty four game losing streak right now. Wow. Yeah,

475
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 6: they got a short handed guys up there as the

476
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 6: second night of a back to back. Literally, the Raptors

477
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Speaker 6: gave them that game and they won by two points.

478
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Speaker 6: Otherwise they would still be on this losing streak.

479
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Speaker 2: Impressively.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw people saying, don't count out the fact

481
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Speaker 3: that they Pistons could beat their own record for losing

482
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Speaker 3: streak within the same season, which would be insane if

483
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Speaker 3: that actually were to happen. But yeah, this is a

484
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 3: pretty bad team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, kid obviously hurt with the turnovers not but

486
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 4: just the fact that they get up because they do

487
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Speaker 4: have vets that can score. It's really weird. That doesn't

488
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Speaker 4: happen very often to blow it like that in the

489
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Speaker 4: second quarter. Really, that was strange.

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Speaker 3: Any other thoughts on any of the blowouts there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the Wolves Magic game because I was

492
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Speaker 4: just watching Biggs versus Biggs, the big Sis them of

493
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Speaker 4: the Wolves with Carl Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert up

494
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Speaker 4: against ban Caero and Gogo Bitase and the Wolves were

495
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Speaker 4: just winning it. I loved watching Towns and Rudy Gobert

496
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Speaker 4: pick and roll the passing there. Town set up Rudy

497
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Speaker 4: Gobert three times for assists early in this game. Rudy

498
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Speaker 4: had a twenty point game twenty one in this one,

499
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Speaker 4: but while he was doing that, he was stepping out

500
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Speaker 4: and banging home three. So then Rudy goes to the

501
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Speaker 4: bench and then it's four guys around Karl Anthony Towns

502
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 4: so Karl Anthon Town's was just driving and driving and driving.

503
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Speaker 4: That Dunky had on Movagner that was ridiculous. So he

504
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 4: came back with some big flexes. But yeah, twenty eight overall,

505
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Speaker 4: So those two guys did it, and they did a

506
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Speaker 4: pretty good job as a team. Palo Bancaro's struggled a

507
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Speaker 4: little bit with Rudy being able to help out. And

508
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Speaker 4: Jada McDaniels. Those two guys, they're probably gonna be an

509
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Speaker 4: all defensive team. I don't know if both make it,

510
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 4: but they're just so good. Nobody talks about Jada McDaniels really,

511
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Speaker 4: but Paulo Boncarro started three to thirteen and got better.

512
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Speaker 4: But they're just they're just all over them. And now

513
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Speaker 4: Orlando they go on to a tough road skit, so

514
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 4: they they've moved down to eight in the standings of

515
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 4: the East is you know, it's pretty tight up from

516
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Speaker 4: four through eight, and now they go to Miami, Okay,

517
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 4: see the Knicks and atl which is probably the easiest game,

518
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Speaker 4: but it's fun. It's a it's a fun standing little

519
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 4: schedule there. But Orlando's better than being in eighth than

520
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 4: they are right now. They're damn good. But they're probably

521
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Speaker 4: gonna be down there in the plane for a little bit.

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Speaker 6: They need Fronds back because it's a little too much

523
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Speaker 6: on Boncaro's shoulders, considering they have no shooting around him either.

524
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Speaker 6: So it's, uh, if you can, if he can pull

525
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Speaker 6: off the victory, that's how they get wins right now,

526
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Speaker 6: and if not, it ain't gonna happen. But I did

527
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Speaker 6: love seeing the entire Timberwolves bench coming up taunting Moe

528
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Speaker 6: Wagner after the big dunk by Karl Anthony Towns, just

529
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Speaker 6: pointing at him. Even Luca Garza guys out, they're in

530
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Speaker 6: a vest trash talking what fully car hearted out, Hey

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Speaker 6: you got dunk to on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're sitting That guy gets into every single play.

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Speaker 3: That's Finny and the Knicks, Like I said, perfect still

534
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Speaker 3: with Og. I know they're playing the Blazers, but man,

535
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Speaker 3: they looked awesome Madison Square Garden. They've fallen in love

536
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: with this guy. They're chanting Og there in MSG. He

537
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: got the interview after the game with Rebecca Harlow. OG's

538
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: grabbing the mic from her as he's addressing the crowd.

539
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Speaker 3: You know, obviously generally a pretty quiet guy, or at

540
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Speaker 3: least through his raptor's tenure. I thought he was showing

541
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Speaker 3: quite a bit of personality in answering her questions. They're

542
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 3: perfect right now. He hasn't lost a game in the

543
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: Orange and Blue, so their roll and that fit looks good.

544
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a damn lot of personality too. They're

545
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 4: gonna be filming some videos, et cetera. They're only two

546
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: games back of Philly for third. I think this team's

547
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 4: going to be real in the playoffs and once they

548
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Speaker 4: get there, and then they want to probably have home

549
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 4: court potentially against Philly in the second round, so I

550
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 4: think they're gonna be fighting for third there.

551
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Speaker 3: Miami Heat coach Eric Spolster Guys has agreed to an

552
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Speaker 3: eight year contract extension worth more than one hundred and

553
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Speaker 3: twenty million, the most admitted money in North American coaching history.

554
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: That's a lot.

555
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably underpaid if we're being honest, But Spoe's second

556
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: longest active tenured head coach with one team behind Popovich.

557
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Speaker 3: Was anyone shocked by the numbers we saw or it

558
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: was just Hey, if Monny Williams was the coach in

559
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 3: the NBA, we might as well. Mike Spolster, you know,

560
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Speaker 3: one of them. What do you think?

561
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Speaker 6: I think it shows you why the Heat had literally

562
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Speaker 6: been able to build the culture with Eric Spolster there,

563
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 6: and the organizational stability that they have kind of unusual, Like.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let me go Bill Simmons here. Look at the

565
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Speaker 2: New England Patriots this year. Am I right?

566
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Speaker 6: The Patriots they're struggling. Matt Jones, he can't do anything.

567
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,239
Speaker 6: Ever since Tom Brady left the the Patriots don't look

568
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 6: the same. And now they want to get rid of

569
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Speaker 6: Bill Belichick, the greatest coach in NFL history. What have

570
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 6: you done for me lately? Eric spolsterra hasn't won a

571
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Speaker 6: title since twenty thirteen. Right, And the Heat don't care.

572
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Speaker 6: They realize we've got the best coach in the league.

573
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Speaker 6: We're gonna pay him like he's the best coach in

574
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Speaker 6: the league. Even the Spurs we're talking about moving on

575
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 6: from Popovic before they mentioned that he signed an extension.

576
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 6: The Warriors and Steve Kerr, their fans want him out

577
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 6: of there. That's the difference.

578
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he are not like that.

579
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Speaker 6: They're like, we've got a great coach. Lebron wanted Eric

580
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 6: Spolster gone his first year didn't happen. They kept him around,

581
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 6: won a title, won two titles, went to the finals twice.

582
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Speaker 6: That's how you actually build a culture and have stability,

583
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Speaker 6: not by cycling through coaches time and time again. Keep

584
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Speaker 6: the good guys around.

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Speaker 4: Two things I learned when I saw this headline. The

586
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Speaker 4: NBA is making a lot of money first off, and

587
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 4: is going to have a great TV deal that comes

588
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 4: up here. Lots of money to be spent. Also, for

589
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: everybody out there, hard work pays off. I mean, this

590
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: guy started as a video coordinator a long time ago

591
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 4: and then became an assistant for a decade, and then

592
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Speaker 4: he got the head job. But it didn't go perfectly

593
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 4: as you said. It looked like he may be gone.

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Speaker 4: He bumped into Lebron James seventeen games into that season

595
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 4: when Lebron joined Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade, and they

596
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 4: didn't look all they were nine to eight. Was it

597
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: was that game against Dallas where he bumped Lebron James

598
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 4: and all the headlines started to happen. Maybe they want

599
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 4: him out of there. And then they lost in the

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00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 4: finals of that season and pat Riley was asked, are

601
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Speaker 4: you going to take over? Are you going to move

602
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 4: on because Lebron had a bad series. He didn't have

603
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: a great series where he had that eight point game

604
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: against the Dallas Mavericks. But they believed in Eric Spolstra,

605
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: and they believe in him now. So hard work plays

606
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 4: off a lot. I mean, it took a long time

607
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: for Eric Spolstra to go from video coordinator to head

608
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: coach of this team, and he still had to go

609
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: through a ton when the Heatles were getting headlines in

610
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: different types of ways.

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Speaker 3: In Shoes twenty twenty three NBA Preseason In Shoes twenty

612
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 3: twenty three NBA preseason Survey of General Managers, spolsterra basically

613
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: swept the coaching categories for the second straight season. He

614
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: was voted best head coach in the NBA was seventy

615
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: three percent of the vote. He was the best manager

616
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: and motivator of people. He was voted the best head

617
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: coach to make the best in game adjustments. He was

618
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: voted the best head coach to make the best defensive schemes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he has the respect across the entire league,

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Speaker 3: from all the gms, from all the other coaches, from

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Speaker 3: a lot of the players, and so it's no surprise

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Speaker 3: that he gets a massive, massive deal like this. I

623
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Speaker 3: will say Ziller had me howling this morning at this line.

624
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: This contract. This is like a college football coach contract,

625
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: eight years, one hundred and twenty million. This is the

626
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: contract you see when some newspaper reports the highest paid

627
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 3: public employee in each state and it's a dude named Jimbo.

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00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: Great line from Ziller there, because this is a lot

629
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Speaker 3: of money and a long commitment in a business which

630
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: is notorious for not committing long to NBA coaches. So

631
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: shouts to Spoe, well deserved. I can't. I haven't found

632
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: a single thing, haven't. I haven't seen the take too

633
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: much money? Not deserving? Yeah, overrated, I haven't seen that.

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00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: So that's right. That's a It is a good one.

635
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 3: But at least I think he's made the playoffs. Is

636
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: he made the playoffs every year except twice maybe in

637
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: his his tenure as a head coach with the Miami Heat.

638
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: I think they've come up short twice.

639
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: I mean he's made the finals twice and since the.

640
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: Seasons, So yeah, good coach. All right, Moving on here.

641
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: Draymond Green back at practice with the Golden State Warriors,

642
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: and he's more than ready to get back on the court.

643
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: After his latest suspension, he said, quote, I've cost my

644
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 3: team enough. I've cost this organization enough. He said this

645
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: in a news conference the other day. Green also admitted

646
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Speaker 3: during his suspension that he nearly retired altogether, but Commissioner

647
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Speaker 3: Adam Silver talked him out of it, said, no, man,

648
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: too soon man. So yeah, do you have any takeaways

649
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: from Draymond Green really talking to the press conference there

650
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: in his press conference and all that he had to

651
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: say about returning.

652
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: Here to the Warriors. Yeah, not only did he talk

653
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: to Adam Silver, but he had to sit down with

654
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: Steve Kerr at some point. And Steve Kerr was part

655
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: of those Bulls in their last run when they won

656
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: the championship, the last run with Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen.

657
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: He was on that team and he said to Draymond Green,

658
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: I don't want this to end like this. I don't

659
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: want our team to end like this, and he was listening.

660
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: Dreymond Green was absolutely listening to that. And I think

661
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: that's what Kerr took from that run, the last dance,

662
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 4: to this one, and he's trying to make it work

663
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: in that same way. He also said, you know, no

664
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: more butts as Draymond Green said, like there's there's no

665
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 4: more nor I did this, but and Dremond Green quote said,

666
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 4: when I look at these situations, it's like, can I

667
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: remove the antics? I'm very confident I can remove the antics.

668
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: So tbd TBD on whether that will happen.

669
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: He also he also said, you don't change the spots

670
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: on a leopard. So I'm I'm a little worried. But honestly,

671
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: that's the whole thing. Can Draymond strike the appropriate balance

672
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: between bringing that fiery energy that has helped his team

673
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 3: win championships without getting into the the antics, the predicaments

674
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: that gets him suspended. That's his whole thing. It always

675
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: goes to the line, and a lot of times he

676
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: crosses it. But even he even he knows and has

677
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: said multiple times, I'm the type of player I am.

678
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: I've been successful because I go close to that line.

679
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: That that's what I do, and that's how I became

680
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: the need the need it We'll see here. He spent

681
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: three and a half weeks in counseling. He didn't touch

682
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: a basketball for the first ten days. He said, like

683
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: I said, he said, he was going to retire. Silver

684
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: said no, I don't know if you believe it or not.

685
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: But anyway, if I can't be hitting guys in the face,

686
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm out.

687
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, what do you what?

688
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: A crazy take?

689
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: Well?

690
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 3: What do you think of what all he said? Really

691
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: and his return here.

692
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 6: He's saying all the right things. Now he just has

693
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: to play the entirety of his career without doing anything again. Yeah,

694
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 6: that's the thing, because he's going to become the Sean

695
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 6: Bradley technical files right now. Players are going to be

696
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 6: trying to get under his skin, even more so now

697
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 6: Steve Kerr said they're asking him not to argue with

698
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 6: the referees.

699
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: We will see how long that lasts. Maybe a half.

700
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 6: Can Draymond be Draymond without being Draymond is really what

701
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 6: the question is. And there's only one way to find out.

702
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 6: That's by bringing him back and seeing if he's able

703
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 6: to keep his calm when things are not going his way,

704
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 6: because there will be times when he has a bad

705
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 6: call go against him. We just saw the Taylor referees

706
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 6: have memories too, Yeah, and they're gonna remember how Draymond

707
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 6: has acted the first decade of his career. And probably

708
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 6: hold it against him. So if he's able to focus

709
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 6: on the details, which is what Steve Kerr brought up

710
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 6: quite a bit, then Draymond will be able to contribute

711
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 6: to winning once again for the Warriors. And if not,

712
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: everybody's just waiting for the next shoot to drop. Yeah.

713
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

714
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: Overall, I think, like what Adam Silver basically said was

715
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: you can't hit guys. I think we're changing the NBA

716
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: in terms of how physical you can be with guys

717
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: because years ago it happened. So I think the way

718
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: defense has gone. I mean, it really can't be all

719
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: that physical, so it is a little unfortunate. But I

720
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: think when we look back at this, we'llo kt a

721
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: totally different era of the NBA where there's no hitting.

722
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 4: So I think that part is good. Draymond Green is

723
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 4: very aware of that you can't punch guys, but.

724
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: Will he be able to remember that when he's caught

725
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: up in the heat of the moment. Yeah, that's the question.

726
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 4: Who knows?

727
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: And you're right about man, I can't wait to see

728
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: who's going to be the one that tries to push

729
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: his buttons, try and get under his skin to get

730
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: him to like cross that line, because they'd be silly

731
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: not to at least if we're talking like a playoff series,

732
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: maybe not a regular season game in late January, like

733
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of the players don't care that

734
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: much about that, But a playoff series or a playing game,

735
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you would expect somebody on the other team

736
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: to try right well within boundaries, right within reason. I'm

737
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: not saying go up and punch Raymond Green and see

738
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: he punches you back, but you know, try and get

739
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: under his skin. They're gonna do that.

740
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: I do think they will be saying to each other,

741
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 4: this could be our last run. Let's try and calm

742
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: each other down in that way, and it probably will

743
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: be their last dance. In all honesty, something big is

744
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: going to happen after the season. But I think they're

745
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 4: gonna try for They're gonna look at the calendar. Come on,

746
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: come on, it's just five more months, it's just four

747
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: more mors, it's just three more months. Let's get it together.

748
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: But when it gets hot, who knows whether or not

749
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: guys will get hotter. This guy particularly, it is about

750
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: Draymond Green.

751
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: Well, will Draymond Green lasts the restless season without a suspension.

752
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's gonna happen.

753
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: Okay, so you would be better.

754
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 6: Are you including like missing games for flagrant and technical

755
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 6: foul points?

756
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: Sure?

757
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 6: I think he will miss another game at least another

758
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 6: game this season for discipline reasons.

759
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay. Final piece of news here this is I

760
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: don't know is this good news? I guess it could

761
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: have been worse. An MRI revealed that Pacers point guard

762
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: Tyrese Haliburton sustained a Grade one left ham string strain

763
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 3: during Monday's game against the Celtics. He will be reevaluated

764
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: in approximately two weeks following the team's West coast trip here.

765
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: So we talked about this on the podcast the other day.

766
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 3: We didn't know the MRI results, but he did that

767
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: the splits there and was carried off towels over his

768
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: head look bad. It looked very, very bad, and he's

769
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 3: going to miss some time. We all knew that, and

770
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: sounds like a minimum two weeks, maybe longer, but.

771
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: Probably longer because it is a hamstring Yeah, but at

772
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 4: the same time not a Grade two injury, so it's

773
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: not in an extremely long time, but too weeks. I

774
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: think I will be even longer than that. Especially because

775
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: the team wants him to be good for their All

776
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 4: Star game. Five weeks from now, the Pacers have an

777
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: All Star Game. This guy's gonna be on the All

778
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: Star team. So they're gonna wait and wait and wait,

779
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: and they have a tough skid. I saw a man

780
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 4: John Hollinger point this out on the Athletic. The next

781
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: three weeks include a six game road trip, which is

782
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: just period is just tough. And then you get home

783
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: against Denver, Philadelphia, and Phoenix. So it's up to TJ McConnell,

784
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 4: especially him and Andrewette part to just hold this team together.

785
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: But even if they lose, I think they'll still be

786
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 4: in a playing spot because luckily they play in the

787
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference and not the Western Conference, where there are

788
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: good teams from one through twelve. In the East, you

789
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 4: got some stinky bulls, some stinky wraps in terms of schedule,

790
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: in terms of sorry standings record, So I think they'll

791
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: be fine when it comes out to as long as

792
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: he gets.

793
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 6: Back well first and foremost, the balls are good. Now, yeah,

794
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 6: the record is yeah, you know, yeah, they just had

795
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 6: a bad start. They're the new Orlando Magic. But but

796
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 6: you know, this went about as well as it could

797
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 6: for the Pacers, I guess, I mean, not really, he's

798
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 6: not back. They're just saying we're evaluating him pretty quickly.

799
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 6: So yeah, five game road trip, that's a tough one

800
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 6: to miss. Six game six game roads if I counted wrong, yep.

801
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 6: And then they've got Denver, Philadelphia, and Phoenix right when

802
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 6: they get back home. Those are tough games as well.

803
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 6: But like task said, right now, Indiana is in the

804
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 6: five through eight range, which are all like seven to

805
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 6: seven and a half games back a first place. Then

806
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 6: you get the nine through twelve range, which is Bulls Nets, Raptors, Hawks,

807
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 6: and they are significantly farther back.

808
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: And despite the fact that the Bulls and Raptors are.

809
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 6: Both playing better right now, they're playing better at like

810
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 6: a fifty five percent win percentage rather than like a

811
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 6: seventy percent win percentage. So the Pacers can at least

812
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 6: hang where they're at right now, I would have to think.

813
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 6: And hopefully Halliburton's able to make it back for All Star.

814
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 6: Hopefully he doesn't miss so many games that it takes

815
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 6: him out of award consideration, because I do like that

816
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 6: we're seeing players play more often due to the PPP.

817
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 6: But I do not like having to track how many

818
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 6: games players have missed right now just to see who's

819
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 6: going to be eligible.

820
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm a little worried here for the Pacers

821
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: fans because wasn't it last year like Halliburton left the

822
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: Pacers lineup around the same time and they lost nine

823
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: to ten. Like they're a completely different team without this

824
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: guy who leads the league in assists, who still scores

825
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: an incredibly efficient clip. And you guys went through the

826
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: road trip there and the tough teams, like they could

827
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: be looking at one of these parts here where they

828
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: go two and eight, you know, three and seven over

829
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 3: their next ten, and that's going to drop them down

830
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: a tier. Now, they've built up such a nice cushion

831
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: and they've been one of the surprise teams in the

832
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: league that they should be okay, still hanging on to

833
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: a playoff spot, hanging on to a playing spot. But

834
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: this sucks, And I'm with you. I'm like, I just

835
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: hope he's back for the All Star Game because that's

836
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: a great moment. I mean, he's going to be voted

837
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: in likely still, I would think. And it's in Indiana,

838
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 3: it's in Indianapolis, and that's a cool moment for him

839
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: to start there in his own barn. So he should

840
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: be back for that, which is the good news with

841
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: this grade one left hamstring.

842
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I do believe in this Pacers team. It

843
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 4: is different, as you said, because they're so deep. They

844
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: just beat the Boston Celtics with Tyrus Haliburton missing a

845
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: lot of that game. They played thirteen games, thirteen minutes,

846
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 4: and they scored one hundred and thirty three points against

847
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: the damn good defense in the Boston Celtics. Because they're deep,

848
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: they have a lot of players that can score. But yeah,

849
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: this standings, they're gonna drop, it seems like. And hopefully

850
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: Tyres is there to show off because he really called

851
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: out last year's also game. He said it wasn't fun.

852
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 4: He just said, he just said, we didn't we didn't

853
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: try all that hard on the floor with the guys

854
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: picking teams. He likes the East West Idea. This is

855
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: in his home barn, so hopefully he can do that

856
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 4: and hopefully he can join us because we'll be doing

857
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: a live show. Hey hey Halle, hey Halle, come.

858
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: On nice, come on by Helly. They play the Wizards

859
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: tonight at home the Pacers too, So maybe pick up

860
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: that w if you can before you head out on

861
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: the six game road trip. That'll help you out there

862
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: in the standard to.

863
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Speaker 2: Be a high scoring game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, all right, we got we'll take a break and

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Speaker 3: when we come back, the slop scale returns. Don't go anywhere,

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Speaker 3: all right, We are back here in the classic factory.

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Speaker 3: Hit that like button. Make sure you subscribe. Over the

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Speaker 3: last week or so, NBA trade rumors have been ramping up,

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Speaker 3: so we decided that today was the perfect time to

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Speaker 3: bring back the slop scale. It's kind of slapping off

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Speaker 3: your little piggies or once again, I'm gonna weigh in

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Speaker 3: on the latest NBA trade rumors.

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Speaker 4: It's disgusting. You guys started this while I was gone,

875
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: and I went back and watching and watched that pig

876
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 4: eat out of that trough and I get disgusted.

877
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Speaker 6: What is it?

878
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 4: What is that thing?

879
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: Slop everything?

880
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: But it looks like it's got some boiled eggs.

881
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everything exactly. This compost babies, that's the og

882
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: compost slop scale. Yeah, we did this back in the summer.

883
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: Where were you, I don't know, you must have been

884
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: try we were trying to figure out out. It was

885
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: after the finals, not long after the finals.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I went to the beautiful city of Jahoga.

887
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Speaker 3: Oh beautiful. Okay, So it's it's very straightforward. I'm happy

888
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: to hear you went back and watched the cypto. But

889
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: the slop scale very straightforward. The heavier and juicier and

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00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: sloppier the NBA trade rumor, the more buckets of slop

891
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 3: you guys are going to assign to it. So five

892
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: buckets a slop, that's maximum slop. And you know, if

893
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: you don't think it's all that juicy, don't think there's

894
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: a lot to it, you can go one bucket, all right,

895
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: one to five buckets that's your scale. Much love as

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00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: always to the Unball podcasts for coming up with the

897
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Speaker 3: slap scale or pushing the slop season and the slop

898
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: trade rumors and all that, all right, First one, the

899
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Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors are reportedly open to trading Andrew Wiggins,

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00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: which would open up a larger role for Jonathan Kaminga.

901
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: According to NBA insider Mark Stein, how many buckets a

902
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 3: slot do you guys think this is worthy of?

903
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: I'm a three three bucket man. Because I do think

904
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: that the Warriors are willing to trade him. Are they willing? Yes?

905
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 4: Do they want to trade him?

906
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 6: No?

907
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: They would rather him be good. I think this next

908
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: four weeks before the trade deadline is basically a tryout

909
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 4: to see how good he'll play. If he plays like

910
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: that he has the last few months where he's a

911
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 4: twelve point per game guy on a long term deal,

912
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: they will move on. But are they going to get

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00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 4: something good for him?

914
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 6: No? Know.

915
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Speaker 4: So they would rather have Andrew Wiggins be like that

916
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 4: guy who helped him to a championship. So I think

917
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Speaker 4: Draymond Green coming back hopefully will help him push him

918
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Speaker 4: be aggressively. As Steve Kerr said, do you want to

919
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 4: end like this with the Golden State Warriors to Draymond

920
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: Green specifically, he said no. I think Draymond Green's basically

921
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 4: going to be saying the same thing to Andrew Wiggins

922
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: to try and just get him up. Because people think

923
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Speaker 4: Kaminga is going to be great, but Pete Wagans was

924
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 4: better than we've seen with Kuminga in terms of defense,

925
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: in terms of shooting the ball. That's how they won.

926
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Speaker 4: So I got three slops here because I think it

927
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: could go either way because just like they traded Jordan Poole,

928
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: they could do the same thing here, and they have

929
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: lots of draft picks to trade. They had to attach

930
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: a nice first round pick to trade Jordan Poole. They

931
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: still can do that. They still have a bunch of

932
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: their future here first round picks, and he is sort

933
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 4: of tradeable because you've got Cominga and Moody sort of

934
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: back guys to sort of back him up in the

935
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: same sort of position. But I think this next four

936
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: weeks is literally going to be a tryout. Can you

937
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Speaker 4: get back to somewhat of that same guy, because right

938
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Speaker 4: now he hasn't even close. I could see other guys going,

939
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Speaker 4: like Gary Payton being trade and other guys, But the WIGI,

940
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Speaker 4: I'm not going all slop, but I think it could happen, and.

941
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Speaker 3: You're a two buckets of slop, a little undertest.

942
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 6: It's a slop because I do think it's interesting that

943
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 6: they're considering moving on considering how how much they're trying

944
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 6: to get Wiggins back to finals mode, you know, and

945
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 6: wanting him to be a key part of their team,

946
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Speaker 6: and it's just not happening. It makes sense that they

947
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 6: would rather keep Kaminga. Kaminga is younger, he's completely outplaying

948
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 6: Wiggins this entirety of the season, and he's going to

949
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 6: need to be paid pretty soon. I could see why

950
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 6: they would rather keep Jonathan Kaminga, but that's also why

951
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 6: every other team wants Kminga over Wiggins. And that's why

952
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 6: I'm so low on the slop scale here, Tass, you

953
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 6: called Wiggins the worst contract in the leagues. I have

954
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 6: owed twenty four million this year, twenty six the next year,

955
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 6: then twenty eight and thirty in his final year. It's

956
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 6: a player option in twenty six twenty seven. Seems unlikely

957
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Speaker 6: that they're going to find a taker for this contract,

958
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 6: and that's why I'm low on the slop. I'm sure

959
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 6: they would like to move it, but they don't want

960
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 6: to have to attach a first round pick to the

961
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 6: Wiggins contract. They want to use the first round pick

962
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 6: to make their team better. So I just don't think

963
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 6: it's happening because teams aren't that excited to take on

964
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Speaker 6: Andrew Wiggins.

965
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Speaker 3: Right now, going to take take him on if it

966
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 3: comes with a draft pick, Yes, a sloppy, juicy draft pick.

967
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 3: They're not trading for the idea right now with Andrew Wiggins,

968
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: who somehow is still only twenty eight years old. I

969
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: mean like he's in his prime, which is really weird,

970
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: but just can't shoot at all right now, forty two

971
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: percent from the floor, under thirty percent from three. You know,

972
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: definitely seems checked out at times mentally within the game.

973
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 3: That may be because of things off the court, for sure,

974
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: but this is this is sort of like the worst

975
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: basketball really we've seen him play for a long time now,

976
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 3: because he was good, You're right, and they're just praying

977
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: and hoping that he can get back to that either

978
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 3: for them and there there are chances moving forward or

979
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: I guess for his trade value to go up a

980
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's how much do the Warriors want to win

982
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 4: a championship this season? I think comes into the factor

983
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: of do we want to trade Andrew Wiggins because I

984
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: think if he's that guy who's been the last few months,

985
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 4: then he could get traded. I just don't know what

986
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 4: the front office mindset is here because they're not winning.

987
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 4: If he's that same guy, it doesn't feel that way,

988
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, what if they can get back for him.

989
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: I just don't know what the slop scale is in

990
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: the Warriors front office. Really, but again, yeah, if they

991
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 4: want to win, they got to get a better Wiggins,

992
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: and I think they're gonna push for that. They're gonna

993
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 4: trade something, right, Could they trade Chris Paul? I suppose

994
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 4: that's yes. I suppose that's possible. But he should be

995
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 4: back in a few weeks. Yeah, I just I just

996
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 4: don't know how much they want to make that transition

997
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: into the young guys, you know, to make the Golden

998
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 4: State Warriors playable from twenty twenty five to twenty thirty

999
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 4: when things are going to be, you know, a lot different.

1000
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: What's funny about that, though, this idea of like the

1001
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: old guys are the young guys, it's a much more

1002
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: difficult decision to make when the old guys are actually

1003
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: playing decent. But you have these young guys that you

1004
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: want to build up and get the reps and play

1005
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: alongside your curries and stuff like that. But that's not happening.

1006
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: A lot of these old guys, specifically Wiggins, we're calling

1007
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: old a part of this group, obviously Clay at times,

1008
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: you know, Chris Paul's new to the bunch. I get

1009
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: that they're not playing great like the young guys are

1010
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: playing better than them, so it's a lot easier. It

1011
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: should be of a decision to make like, well, then

1012
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: just play them. There's no they're playing better right now,

1013
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: and let's maybe move off a guy like Chris paul

1014
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 3: Er Wiggins to get some more talent in here. Because

1015
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: we have Steph Curry, we have him in his prime

1016
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: and still playing an elite level. Then you do have

1017
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 3: a chance to win a lot of series. Should be

1018
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: the thinking, I think when you have one of the

1019
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: top five guys in the league or wherever you're putting

1020
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: them right now, so all right, move on one. This

1021
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: one's a two pronged slop. Last week, ESPN's Tim Bontemps

1022
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 3: wrote that league sources expect Toronto to move on from

1023
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 3: two time All Star forward Pascal Siakam before the trade deadline.

1024
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: This was a part of Tim bon Tamp's article on

1025
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: og and the RJ quickly trade between the Nicks and Raptors.

1026
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 6: Well.

1027
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: Jake Fisher added that while Atlanta was once considered the

1028
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 3: most aggressive suitor for Siakam's services, chatter among NBA executives

1029
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: now has a potential landing spot for Spicy p to

1030
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: go to Indiana or Sacramento or Detroit. So TK you

1031
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: getta started here. How many buckets a slop are you

1032
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: giving to the Siacam expected to be dealt before the deadline.

1033
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 6: I'm giving it four buckets a slop because this is

1034
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 6: a sloppy scenario. I do believe because Sacam, I think

1035
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 6: you could probably call him the hottest commodity on the

1036
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 6: trade market right now, considering he's got a championship in

1037
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 6: his past, he's an All NBA player, He's been great

1038
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 6: this season. Looks really nice next to Quickly and Barnes there.

1039
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 6: But Sam has also been in the mix, which is

1040
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 6: why I can't go for five slops. You cannot go

1041
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 6: for five slops with Messia Jerry. It's very obvious that

1042
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 6: he could keep this guy, especially because Siakam basically has

1043
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 6: like a junior no trade clause, being an expiring contract.

1044
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 6: You gotta work it out with the front office of

1045
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 6: the other team ahead of time, knowing he's going to

1046
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 6: re sign, which has hurt his market. Apparently, him threatening

1047
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 6: not to re sign with Sacramento basically killed that deal.

1048
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 6: Which take it or leave it for the Raptors. If

1049
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 6: you're really excited about the beyond Mitchell, but there's also

1050
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 6: been some weird handling of Siakam. It feels like Josh

1051
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 6: Lewenberg over at TSN reported that they basically had no

1052
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 6: contact with him.

1053
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: Over the summer.

1054
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 6: The Raptors released that phone call of Massi chatting on

1055
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 6: the phone with Emmanuel quickly talking up Scottie Barnes so

1056
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 6: much no mention of Pascal Siakam.

1057
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Speaker 2: All of these leaks that come.

1058
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 6: Out seem to me Raptors themed trying to drum up

1059
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 6: into for Siakam because I think the fact that he

1060
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 6: has that note, that expiring contract probably is hurting the

1061
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 6: return coming back for Toronto here. So if the deal's

1062
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 6: not there. You even heard Brian Windhurst today on the

1063
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Speaker 6: Hoop Collective. They're not against signing him to another extension.

1064
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then maybe moving him yea, yeah, because the

1065
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: team would be much more interested obviously having him under control.

1066
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 3: But you only go two buckets here slot.

1067
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the slop scale is perfect for Pascal Siakam. It

1068
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: feels like this this is a nice slop to get

1069
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 4: talking about. But I'm going down low. I know there

1070
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: has been talked, but I think the og Anob trade

1071
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 4: has changed it a little bit for him. He's shooting

1072
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 4: a lot more. He is feeling like the number one guy.

1073
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: I know Scottie Barnes is technically the number one guy,

1074
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 4: and they.

1075
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: Dart didn't mention him at all in that rant there

1076
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: last night.

1077
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I think they've done that before with Siakam.

1078
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 4: He doesn't need to be motivated as much by a

1079
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: coach or whoever. The guy is just a former champion.

1080
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 4: He's just great. He's an All NBA player. He's great.

1081
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 4: I think less crowding on the wing seems to help. Then,

1082
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: now that they got rid of og Annobi, he's having fun.

1083
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: It feels like him and Massiah are definitely connected. I

1084
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: know there have been some odd phone call releases, but

1085
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: I do think they're boys. And he's gonna be thirty

1086
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: when it comes to free agent time. Here, he's turning thirty.

1087
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna look at the old license and say,

1088
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 4: I'm thirty years old. I'm gonna stay here for a Yeah,

1089
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 4: I'm thirty. Does he I want to leave Toronto a

1090
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 4: great city. I think they'll sign him to a nice deal,

1091
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: and now it's not gonna be a Max deal, he

1092
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 4: may get some more from somebody else, but I think

1093
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: he likes Toronto. So this is this is at a

1094
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 4: great scale because literally I could see a trade happening.

1095
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like Siaka wants to leave. I agree

1096
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: with you on that. It seems like they're kind of

1097
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: ushering him out the door here.

1098
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: It's interesting. Yeah, it depends on how much they want

1099
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: to pay. I get I think that comes that's going

1100
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 4: to be a factor because somebody else may pay him more.

1101
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: I personally think to go with to what Trey was saying,

1102
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 3: if Siakam was under a three year deal right now,

1103
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: like still had years left on his car, Like if

1104
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: Siakam had a Wiggins contract more money. But you know,

1105
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 3: obviously at the length of it, he would have been

1106
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 3: traded because he'd be he is the hottest commodity. You

1107
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: can add that guy to almost any team helps your

1108
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: chances to win a championship this year for these squads

1109
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: like whoever it may be. But it is this issue

1110
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: of like, damn, we're not going to trade a bunch

1111
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: of draft capital and a bunch of young prospects, which

1112
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: obviously the Raptors would want to pair with Barnes and

1113
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 3: quickly and RJ moving forward, Why would we do that

1114
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: he may leave. We're not gonna do that for three

1115
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: four months of potentially this guy unless they felt confident

1116
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: they could sign him. So that's the issue here. So

1117
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: maybe the Raptor's best bet would just be, hey, come

1118
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: to an agreement, sign them, and then look to trade them.

1119
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 3: It's something you can't trade them then, and you'll probably

1120
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: get better deals for your own own organization, the Raptors,

1121
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: I would think, when.

1122
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 6: He's thirty signed to a long deal, yeah, I mean,

1123
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 6: does he look like he's over the hill and washed. No,

1124
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 6: He's gonna play the exact same way for three years

1125
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 6: probably right like three four years. I don't see why

1126
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 6: he's gonna change that much person unless he got injured,

1127
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 6: of course, so that goes for everybody.

1128
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 4: I think this team is going to be good without

1129
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 4: Pascal Siakam, and the draft picks aren't going to be

1130
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: great internally, like they're going to have picks like they

1131
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: got for Pascal Siakam in the twenties. Probably. I think

1132
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 4: the team's going to be decent, so it's going to

1133
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: be hard to get good from there. So I say,

1134
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 4: why not keep the guy? I understand and you're thinking

1135
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: in terms of having a guy under a long term

1136
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: deal and dealing him and getting lots back from him.

1137
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: They could have done that a couple of years ago

1138
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 4: with everybody o Jannoby, Scottie Barnes and Pascal Siakam. They didn't.

1139
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: So do they regret that? I think because they've made

1140
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: a decent deal with Ojannobey where they got two youngish

1141
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 4: players here that are going to be part of a

1142
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 4: decent team. Listen, it's fun to be a Raptors fan

1143
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 4: with a five hundred team. So this team's gonna be

1144
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: five last Yeah, baby, they're gonna get up to five hundred.

1145
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 4: They're gonna be a forty one win team. You're gonna

1146
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 4: enjoy going down to the Skosh Bank Arena and cheering

1147
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: for that team, I think. But the teeth tickets are

1148
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 4: a little expensive.

1149
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: There's no doubt related news to this. This isn't on

1150
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: the slop scale here, but according to Bodog, the MAVs

1151
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: are the favorites to Lanciakam in a trade if the

1152
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: Raptors decide to move on from him before the deadline.

1153
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 3: Dallas top odds at plus one fifty, followed by the

1154
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 3: Grizzlies at plus two to fifty and the Pacers at

1155
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: plus four to fifty. I just thought that was a

1156
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: strange list, But I know Dallas had been linked to

1157
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 3: Siakam and then it sounded like they weren't. You know

1158
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: who are Tim Hardaway Junior and Rashaun Holmes. I mean,

1159
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 3: is that gonna move the needle there? I wouldn't think so.

1160
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: You think the Raps want more, But I will say

1161
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: the Mavericks, Nico Harrison, He's made two pretty big moves

1162
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: are the last two deadlines, right, not afraid to make

1163
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: big deals. Two years ago he traded Porzingis for Dinwitty

1164
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: and Berton's I guess at the twenty twenty two deadline,

1165
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: and then last year obviously trades for Kyrie Irving for

1166
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: Dinwitty and DFS And there's a bunch of other things

1167
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: involved in that. But yeah, maybe maybe he makes another

1168
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 3: aggressive play here in trying to get Siakam. I just

1169
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: don't know what it would be in return, because you.

1170
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 6: Nailed it, You're getting salary filler and probably a pick. Yeah,

1171
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 6: And I think I mean the MAVs should do that.

1172
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 6: I think Tim Hardaway Junior has actually been pretty solid

1173
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 6: for them this year. Rashaun Holmes. They brought him in

1174
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 6: basically as a trade piece at Draft Day. And I

1175
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 6: think the MAVs are a team like, even if you

1176
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 6: don't have assurances from Siakam that he wants to resign

1177
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 6: going forward, you've got a young superstar and Luka Doncic.

1178
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: She got a great number two.

1179
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 6: In Kyrie Irving, and they're not going to have to

1180
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 6: give up a ton of their future going forward. They're

1181
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 6: a team that I think could convince Siakam to sign

1182
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 6: long term if they want to take a rental on them. Now.

1183
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think that other teams probably have a

1184
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 4: lot more and more at least than what the MAVs

1185
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: would be willing unless teams aren't willing to trade for

1186
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: a guy who's going to become a free agent.

1187
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, they're not. I mean the Kings are like,

1188
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: here's Harrison Barnes, any interests? Maybe Mitchell, Like they don't

1189
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: know Monk No, obviously, no Keigan Murray. I guess the

1190
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 3: rumors I've seen with the Mavericks are like, we're not

1191
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 3: including Green. You want Green? Now he's off the table.

1192
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 3: It's like you're Tredy's right, like they're getting low balled

1193
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: to death here because I hate to say it, they

1194
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 3: probably if they were going to move off the Yakam

1195
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: should have done it prior to this season and would

1196
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: have got probably a really good return for him. Uh,

1197
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: And they've waited too long, so now they're in the

1198
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: predicament of, oh damn, we might just have to sign

1199
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: this guy again. And hope is then somebody is desperate

1200
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: and gives a bunch of draft picks and a bunch

1201
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: of young players because of that capability. Like he's I'm

1202
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 3: not saying he should get four first round picks, should

1203
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: probably be more than one from the Dallas Mavericks. I

1204
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 3: think Siakham.

1205
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if it's the Mavericks pick, it's literally the

1206
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 4: Mavericks pick, And it's not going to be good because

1207
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: they have Luka Dancic on their team. It's going to

1208
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 4: be whether it's a first round it's not. It's going

1209
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: to be in the high teens at the very best,

1210
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: it's probably gonna be in the twenties. So if you're

1211
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 4: talking picks, talk a good pick. That's what I'm I'm thinking.

1212
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 4: If I'm I think they missed the boat on that,

1213
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: that's potential.

1214
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're not getting as good a return as they

1215
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 6: could have gotten and signing him going forward, they're in

1216
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 6: the Zach Levine situation where like he's good, he's really good,

1217
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 6: but he signed for a gigantic deal and he's at

1218
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 6: the end of his prime. And Siakam's two years older

1219
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 6: than Levin. Levine like the balls will be happy to

1220
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 6: get one first round pick this year. And I think

1221
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 6: that's what the Raptors are gonna be looking at it too.

1222
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess they'll say that Siakam, hey, thirty, Mili,

1223
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: how about that? And will produce a show for you

1224
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 4: and Scottie Barnes. You guys are the stars will be good.

1225
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: I mean they like he used to be on Sergea

1226
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: Bacha's show.

1227
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: They're gonna give him not a raise, Yeah, sign for thirty, not.

1228
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: Even a chance. And this is the fear that he's

1229
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 3: just gonna leave completely. And then you're left going, damn,

1230
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: I guess we should have taken Tomortoway junior, Rashaun Holmes

1231
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 3: and a pickpic you know, in the late teens. Yeah,

1232
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: because we got we got nothing.

1233
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. When I said thirty that that is quite the cut.

1234
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 4: Because he's making thirty seven now, But you know, I'm

1235
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 4: thinking work something off the table. That's what I'm That's

1236
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking.

1237
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 3: But off the table a series fifty instead of sixty.

1238
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 3: We will give you an open gym special.

1239
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 4: That's to do it. I think Pascal is gonna love

1240
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 4: to run if it's a long term deal. Yeah, it

1241
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: depends on how much. How much do you think somebody

1242
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 4: else is signing Pascal to at thirty years of age

1243
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 4: entering free agency?

1244
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 2: More than thirty not a great free agency class.

1245
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll talk thirty two. How about thirty two?

1246
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: Bus a TV show that's still.

1247
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: That's still a pay cut? Yeah, way easily, easily.

1248
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 3: Yeah you were you're saying, oh g he's gonna get closed.

1249
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 3: How are you then turning around?

1250
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 4: He's far younger, So I mean Sickam is far better,

1251
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 4: absolutely much better.

1252
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, final one here, This one's fascinating. During a recent

1253
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: appearance on Running Back, Chams of The Athletic reported that

1254
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: the San Antonio Spurs have shown an exploratory interest in

1255
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: potentially trading for de Jonte Murray.

1256
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1257
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: Scham's is on a show called run It Back, and

1258
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 3: he is saying that the Spurs might run it back

1259
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 3: because this news comes less than two years after the

1260
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: Spurs traded de Jontay Murray to the Hawks for a

1261
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: haul of draft picks. Let's let's see the buckets. How

1262
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: many buckets to slop we got on this one?

1263
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 4: From the guys tasks, I'm going straight minimum, just one

1264
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 4: because will Dejonte beat out. He's been watching the Los

1265
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: Angeles Lakers play. He would be so perfect as their

1266
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 4: lead ball handler. But the Spurs not happening. I just

1267
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 4: don't think it. As Seams mentioned, the Spurs have exploratory instruments.

1268
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 4: Interest Okay, that's level one in the slav scale. They

1269
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 4: have a runway. As he said, it doesn't sound doesn't

1270
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: sound like it's happening. It just doesn't. It doesn't make

1271
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 4: sense for the Hawks because I don't think they're getting

1272
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 4: enough back, But it makes sense for the Spurs. Yeah,

1273
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 4: Dejonte with Devin Vassell and Wenby, it would be hilarious.

1274
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 4: It would be phenomenal if they traded three first round

1275
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 4: picks and a pick swap. Sorry, if they got three

1276
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 4: first round picks and a pick swap, and then we're

1277
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 4: able to get him back for giving one of those

1278
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 4: picks would be.

1279
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: That's why I had to go two buckets.

1280
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 6: Just the idea of Dejonte Murray being a long term

1281
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 6: mole for the Spurs.

1282
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: I think said it is too good.

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Speaker 6: They trade their star, they get terrible, they get their

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Speaker 6: next franchise superstar. The star they traded goes and trashes

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Speaker 6: the organization that says how much he hated play there,

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Speaker 6: how they didn't have any room for me to develop.

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Speaker 6: Then he goes and plays for the Hawks, tanks his

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Speaker 6: trade value, doesn't play defense for two years, and then

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Speaker 6: comes back to the Spurs for less than he was

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Speaker 6: traded for.

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Speaker 3: The perfect they need a pointcard the incredible.

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Speaker 2: But then I'm also like, who would the Hawks possibly

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Speaker 2: want to return here?

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Speaker 3: I also just don't think the principle of it, they

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Speaker 3: couldn't do it. I almost I almost get to the

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Speaker 3: point that if the Spurs were like, we'll give you

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Speaker 3: wea for Jantay Murray, the Hawks gotta be like, God,

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Speaker 3: damn it, we can't send them back there. We're giving

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Speaker 3: you Wemo.

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Speaker 2: No, we can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Uh Yeah, I don't know nobody. That's why I don't

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00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: think this one's likely. It's just the idea of like

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00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: Spurs need a point guard. De Jontay Murray's on the

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00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: trade block. Oh could that happen exploratory interests? I don't

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Speaker 3: think so. I'm with you guys on very minimal slop

1306
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: though hilarious. If it all right, slap scale back in

1307
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 3: our lives, I'll tell you what you can lock it in.

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00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 3: We'll have more of the slop scale in the coming

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Speaker 3: weeks as it ramps up here. We gotta take one

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Speaker 3: more break when we come back. Trey Kirby's got tweeted

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Speaker 3: the night. All right, let's get to tweet of the night.

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Speaker 8: Tweet over night wowomat alert Jeff Mwnecki is our tweet

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Speaker 8: of the night at Minnesota mon on Twitter.

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Speaker 6: Timberwolves and Minnesota Links, vice president of Fan Experiences. It

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Speaker 6: is the thirty fifth anniversary of the Minnesota Timberwolves, and

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Speaker 6: Jeff tweeted yesterday today's Timberwolves road game. Trip down Memory

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Speaker 6: Lane is the whittled down list and categories for the

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Speaker 6: name the team cut for the name the team contest

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Speaker 6: after being granted in an NBA franchise. Really fun to

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Speaker 6: look through.

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Speaker 2: Usually on these you only get like, yeah, you said

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01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: little to death.

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Speaker 3: Some million names here.

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Speaker 6: This is the long list. Okay, the categories are animals, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: named them all. Flies made the list. That's a cool name.

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01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: Weather yep.

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01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't know how cold ducks snuck in the weather.

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01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: I guess it's cold.

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01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 6: But also addible outer space. My favorite outer space name,

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Speaker 6: Stars of the North, not the North Stars. Minnesota north

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01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 6: Star has already taken, already spoken four team names. Of

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Speaker 6: course they included the Lakers. Couldn't go back to it. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 6: political was a category. Could have been the Minnesota tax Men.

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01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 6: I'm not sure how that one goes over, like the

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Speaker 6: fish category. Of course, bass considered the Minnesota Bass aka

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Speaker 6: the bass, and then they had some really deep cuts

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01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 6: pull out the dictionary and one of the teams suggested

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01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 6: is just the hes just the hes h apostrophe s

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 6: cool and not categorizable, including the Gandy Dancers.

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Speaker 2: These are incredible.

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01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 3: The Minnesota aquad drinks. Oh damn, we're playing the awkward

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01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: drinks tonight.

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh the yump and yaks are looking good this season.

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01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 3: Uh, look at that one Minnesota killer carps.

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: A killer car isn't that what dark it was here

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01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: last night? That's wow.

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Speaker 6: But there are so many names here are so many

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Speaker 6: good ones. I gotta hit you with the top five.

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Speaker 2: Top top by, top five, top by top All right, these.

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Speaker 6: Are the top five names that the Minnesota Timberwolves could

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Speaker 6: have had.

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01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: At number five, Mican's Law Minnesota micans Law.

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01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 6: How did that one not make the short list? Big

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01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 6: shout out to George Mike and Minneapolis Laker Legend of Forrest.

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01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 3: Minnesota mics Law is all right?

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01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: At number four, the Minnesota Birts.

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Speaker 3: How many rs?

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Speaker 6: I think there's three rs? This one came underneath the weather. Yeah,

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01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 6: I guess I want to said. Not categorizable for me.

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01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 6: I like this one, especially if they decide to become

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01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 6: a cult rather than a basketball team.

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Speaker 2: The Minnesota Twin Stars.

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Speaker 3: Oh sounds nice.

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01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 2: We're just leankes together. Yeah, anytime they got a gruesome twosome,

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Speaker 2: that'd be perfect.

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Speaker 3: So that's like twin cities. Yeah yeah, so they just

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01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 3: jammed them together.

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01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, jam them together? Twin Stars. At number two, the

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Speaker 2: Minnesota fat Cats.

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Speaker 3: See, now, this that's not bad. Yeah, I don't mind it.

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Speaker 4: It's not as bad as the other three.

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Speaker 6: Well fat Cats Cats. Like that's just the word I

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01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 6: love to see and to read. It feels like you

1374
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 6: would see, like in a political cartoon from the nineteen twenties. Yeah,

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01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 6: the Fat Cats downtown at City Hall.

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Speaker 3: Am I making this up?

1377
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 6: For?

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 3: Wasn't there a Minnesota Fats? Was that a famous like

1379
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 3: billiard player?

1380
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 4: It was a guy? Yeah, I think you're right.

1381
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking it up now.

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 4: He was.

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01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: He was American pool player. This guy it's got lived

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01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 3: up to his name.

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01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's from Minnesota.

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01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 3: Of course, Minnesota Fence.

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Speaker 6: My number one name that the Minnesota Timberwolves could have had.

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Speaker 6: The Minnesota Taco Knights t a c O space k

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Speaker 6: n I g h T. Apparently Taco Night t A

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Speaker 6: c O n I t E is a rock that's

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Speaker 6: found around Lake Superior. Really, they said, we can't just

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Speaker 6: beat the Taco Knights. That's ridiculous. So we're gonna be

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Speaker 6: the Taco Nights, which I don't know what the helmet

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 6: looks like for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe all the things they wrote down.

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01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: Imagine being in those sessions. Nothing's a bad idea, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: exactly was that a suggestion? I'm right down. Good stuff,

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01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: oh man, good stuff. Timberwolves is cool though too. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: it's a cool name.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota Hookers probably not. Yeah.

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 4: I love looking at this because there's a lot of

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01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 4: repetition with the Toronto rap contest that they had Beavers

1403
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 4: was on the Raptors list, it was on the Minnesota list, Bobcats, Scorpions, Dragons,

1404
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 4: and Grizzlies. It's basically the same thing. But the Raptors

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 4: went with the Raptors. That's good. The north Stars that

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01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 4: would have been totally bad. As you mentioned, Minnesota north Stars.

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01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 4: Hocke team's gone, so let's just be the north Stars.

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01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: They lose, but they lost the north Stars to Dallas,

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01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: but now they have don't doesn't Minnesota have a team again?

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01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: The Wild Yeah, north Stars were still around until ninety three,

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01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 3: so that's why they had to try Stars of the North.

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 6: Interesting.

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01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 3: A lot of great and some not suggestions here for

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01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: naming that Minnesota team. Good stuff, fun tweet the night.

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01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: They have one here that was just Lakers too. That's like,

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01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: what are you?

1417
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 3: The CFL just named every team, the rough Riders the

1418
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: Lakers too. I mean they were they had the Lakers before.

1419
01:05:59,040 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 3: I guess what they're saying.

1420
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: I guess.

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 6: I got to clarify for the podcast listeners, it's the

1422
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 6: Roman numerals for two Super Bowl.

1423
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 2: Also Lakers.

1424
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: Who do you like in the Lakers versus Lakers two

1425
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: games tonight?

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01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: That's tough.

1427
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 4: They should have just went with the real Lakers.

1428
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: Original Lakers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're Harlem Globetrotters.

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01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, o G Lakers, the Minnesota o G Lakers. Why

1430
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 3: not too late? Put it on the list. Jeff, all right,

1431
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: that's that's tweet of the night. That's another classic, the

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 3: return of the slop scale. Talking about Darko's rand, Raymond's comments,

1433
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff there, Spolster's contract. We will be

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01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 3: back tomorrow at ten am Eastern. It's Thursday tomorrow. A

1435
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 3: bunch of games on tonight and then two pm tomorrow

1436
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 3: afternoon playback for that NBA Paris game. Until then, clip

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: of bros.

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01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome.

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01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. I remember make every night at

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01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 4: Taco to night. It's Wednesday. Who cares? I had one

1442
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 4: yesterday on Tuesday. That's why I'm speaking of it Tuesday. Yeah.

1443
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 2: Were they good?

1444
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1445
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 4: They were good?

1446
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: What was your feeling?

1447
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 4: We need to know maybe next time.

1448
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 3: But you said a Taco night was a rock?

1449
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: Is that what you said yes yes because Taco n

1450
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 2: t A c O n i t E is also

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01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: on the list. Wore Taco Tuesday was very yeah.

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01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing learning things here. Embrace the day, people,