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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott and this is

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Speaker 2: Hot for Suit.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming to you live from my basement.

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Speaker 2: Why are you in your basement?

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Speaker 1: Matt didn't. I didn't go to work today and my

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Speaker 1: wife works from home. My kids are upstairs. I've just

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Speaker 1: been out polishing the Aston Martin Vantage in my driveway,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty sweet. It's like a sparkly silver gold sorry,

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Speaker 1: a sparkly silver exterior with gold sort of satin brass rims.

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably the best color for an Aston Martin.

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Speaker 1: It is ridiculously beautiful and it has British racing green calipers.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in a second. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get into it quite no, no, no, but I've

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Speaker 1: got a pretty stocked driveway right now and it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. You have just gotten back from Switzerland,

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Speaker 1: and I know you. You drove the Bentley, you talked

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Speaker 1: to the CEO of Bentley, you're driving Impressions to Wear

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Speaker 1: in Bargoed. So I'm excited to get into that because

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Speaker 1: now you can tell us about it. Yes, And then

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Speaker 1: the other thing is I had my brother's bachelor party

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Speaker 1: and drove this Cadillac CT five. I have to tell

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Speaker 1: tell you when they when they said that I was

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Speaker 1: going to test it, I was like the Black Wing

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Speaker 1: and they said, no, no, it's it's the V six,

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Speaker 1: And I was like the Black Wing. So I was

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Speaker 1: in a sense, I was like not looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: But I spent a lot of time with it, and

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Speaker 1: it was really impressive.

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Speaker 2: You inhabited the car. You can give us a full

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Speaker 2: a full take.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you everything. And I've had a string of

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Speaker 1: cars right now with great sound systems, so I'm pretty excited.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, this is good.

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Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of them are catching up.

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Speaker 1: In any case, where shall we start. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: the Bentley, because yeah, I have driven a car that's

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Speaker 1: less expensive a sedan and more expensive coop, but this

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Speaker 1: one unbelievably falls in the middle at two hundred to start.

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Speaker 1: That's before options, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So this, this one that I drove was the

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Speaker 2: Bentley Continental GT Speed. This is the fourth generation Bentley Continental.

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Speaker 2: The line started in two thousand and two, I believe,

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Speaker 2: and this is the first hybrid powertrain that we've seen

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Speaker 2: from the Continental line. This is a V eight hybrid,

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Speaker 2: and the engine and the powertrain are interesting because this

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Speaker 2: is the most powerful car that Bentley has ever made.

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Speaker 2: It's over seven hundred horse power. It's seven to seventy

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Speaker 2: one break horse power. So I forgot. I think we

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Speaker 2: did the conversion before. Maybe it was seven hundred. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there you go, but obviously it's it's so powerful. I

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Speaker 2: do think that with the new CEO, Frank Wallacer, we

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Speaker 2: can expect to a little bit more dynamic driving out

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Speaker 2: of Bentley vehicles in the years to come. Which is

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Speaker 2: not to say that the Continental that I drove wasn't

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Speaker 2: incredibly powerful and extremely well balanced and nimble. But by

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Speaker 2: the same token, it is a really big, heavy car,

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Speaker 2: and I do think that the close Swiss alpine roads

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Speaker 2: that I drove it on maybe were not the best

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Speaker 2: venue for this particular car. It's such a big car.

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Speaker 2: It's a grand tour really, so it was a great drive.

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Speaker 2: You know, the car drives amazing, but I honestly the

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Speaker 2: drive left me really wanting to just be like out

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Speaker 2: on the open road going really fast in a straight line.

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Speaker 2: The technical portion of the curves which we were on

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Speaker 2: for near Furka Pass, which of course, is that famous

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally get. I mean, first of all, I

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Speaker 1: feel like this Bentley is supposed to be heavy. You

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Speaker 1: don't get into this car and expect something like lightweight.

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Speaker 2: No, and the curb weight alone is about fifty five

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Speaker 2: hundred pounds. There's calling the gross vehicle weight over sixty

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Speaker 2: four hundred pounds. So yeah, it's a big boy. And

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Speaker 2: obviously it has enough power and torque to push it forward,

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Speaker 2: there's no question about that. But it's just a big car,

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Speaker 2: the benefit is it's incredibly comfortable, incredibly quiet, it's incredibly smooth.

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Speaker 2: You know. All of the on road dynamics make the

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Speaker 2: question about it. But it's big. It's big.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, so it's seven hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: horse power, it's about fifty five hundred pounds. I said

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Speaker 1: on the I guess the Ventaga that Wallasher wants to

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Speaker 2: Yes, so the the continental starts the GT the coop

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Speaker 2: thirty two two hundred thousand dollars. So it's their expensive.

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Speaker 1: Cars, very expensive. I mean, I was thinking that this

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Speaker 1: thing costs basically the same as the Aston Martin Vantage,

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Speaker 1: but it actually costs fifty percent more for sure from

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Speaker 1: the base price.

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Speaker 2: It's an even higher level for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because and we'll get to this, but

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Speaker 1: you know, Aston Martin is going to be run by Adrian.

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Speaker 2: Hallmark came from Bentley, yes, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And this guy Frank Stephen Ballaser, he came from Portia.

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Speaker 2: Yes. So Frank Frank is the man credited with bringing

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Speaker 2: Porsche Motorsports program, and he also is credited he also

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Speaker 2: ran the Porsche Production car GT program, So you know,

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Speaker 2: the GT three is a direct result of Frank's leadership

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Speaker 2: is sort of the mechanical engineering guru who has really

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Speaker 2: pushed Porsche to the forefront of racing in recent recent years.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I can't ignore the fact that Bentley

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Speaker 2: has now hired him. It just leads me to believe

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Speaker 2: that Bentley sort of understands we want to get more

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Speaker 2: into the sporty space. Obviously, the luxuries there, there's no

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Speaker 2: question about it, but there probably is a little bit

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Speaker 2: get them a little tighter, maybe the break's a little

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Speaker 1: So when did he come on at Bentley, Because I

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Speaker 1: would be guessing this refresh of the Continental GT has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this, this absolutely has. Frank joined in on July

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with Frank. It was down to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in terms of trying to revitalize the brand a bit.

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Speaker 2: The extended wheelbase ben Taga SUVs have generated some nude

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Speaker 2: excitement for those, but you know Bentley's expecting to that

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Speaker 2: bent Tegas will comprise about thirty percent of their deliveries

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Speaker 2: this year, which is down from over forty percent last year.

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Speaker 2: Just makes me think that it's not doing as well

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Speaker 2: as I had hoped. And so Frank's task really is

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Speaker 2: something that makes consumers believe it's it's exciting and worth

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Speaker 1: You know, well they're not. I mean, Bentley's not doing

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Speaker 1: as well. In fact, we can get into the string

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Speaker 1: of profit warnings that we got from automakers last week.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, I'm surprised that the Bentaga costs

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Speaker 1: two thirds of what this new Continental costs. It's interesting

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Speaker 1: because it's in UV even car, even the extended wheelbase

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Speaker 1: your story. Yes, so even that is far less expensive

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Speaker 1: the new car, I think. But Bentley had, according to

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Speaker 1: your story, in the first half, a drop of twenty

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Speaker 1: we know, is in dire straits. Folkswagen owns Bentley, and

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Speaker 1: like twelve other brands, they're going to close a factory

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Speaker 1: in Germany for the first time. They're trying to figure

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Speaker 1: to close a factory in Germany. Folkswagen is like the

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Speaker 1: national employer essentially. Not only that, but Mercedes came out

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Speaker 1: having real problems fending off Chinese competition and dealing with inflation.

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Speaker 1: And Silantis came out with a profit warning, which may

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Speaker 1: send the CEO of Silantis, Carlos Tavares, out the door

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really rough out there, and it seems to

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Speaker 2: have affected not just luxury automakers. In fact, maybe luxury

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Speaker 1: Aston Martin also came out with the profit warning last week,

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Speaker 1: and the stock absolutely tanked. Aston Martin maybe a slightly

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Speaker 1: different issue because they said their fires in Switzerland were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I was going to I was just about

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Speaker 2: to say, you know, Ferrari and Lamborghini are are all

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Speaker 2: systems go, and McLaren and Aston Martin are kind of

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Speaker 2: the low margin outliers in the luxury sports car peer group,

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Speaker 2: which you know, typically get the worst credit ratings according

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Speaker 2: to Bloomberg Intelligence. So you know, it's it is really tough,

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Speaker 2: and I think Bentley is not immune to that either. No,

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Speaker 2: I guess that was sort of our point, that Bentley

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Speaker 1: What it seems like to me one of their problems

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Speaker 1: is all these car makers took great advantage of the

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Speaker 1: inflation Carol Master uses the term greedflation that we saw

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Speaker 1: after the COVID pandemic and raised prices, and in some

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Speaker 1: of them it's are getting hurt by it. So, for example,

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Speaker 1: Carlos Tavarus raised prices at Jeep by so much that

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Speaker 1: Jeep is now competing as if it were a BMW

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Speaker 1: or Mercedes, and the consumers like, no, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a great car, but it is not on that level.

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Speaker 1: So they're having trouble. And it seems to me that

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Speaker 1: Bentley is really reaching with a three hundred plus thousand

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the story is with Bentley, but

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Speaker 1: I know with Aston Martin, consumers often put you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty forty percent on top of the base price

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Speaker 1: with their options. The one I'm driving right now is

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Speaker 1: one ninety one to start, and it's two ninety two

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Speaker 1: as outfitted. Because they do this.

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Speaker 2: Is the advantage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I to

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Speaker 2: your point about Jeep. Now they're having to do deep

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Speaker 2: discounts on products that were probably overpriced and The thing

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Speaker 2: the worst possible thing you can do. So to your point,

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Speaker 2: They don't even make it.

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Speaker 2: Back to Bentley, I think there's so much uncertainty and

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Speaker 1: Agree. I agree to it. By the way, four had

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Speaker 2: So Bentley offers four drive modes, Comfort, Bentley's, Sport and Custom,

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Speaker 1: the way Porsia did, the way a Lamborghini does. And

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00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: it didn't. And I went to a Rangers game with

433
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: my buddy Eric last night. When we were driving back,

434
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: he made the same comment, like, Wow, for three hundred

435
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and this storied brand, which is mostly about

436
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: the motor, I would expect the sound to be like unbelievable.

437
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: And we on the way back in traffic were next

438
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 1: to like some kids and hellcats who were just speeding

439
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: up and breaking, speeding up and breaking, and I love

440
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: the sound of that supercharger. And I was thinking, man,

441
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: I wish our car sounded cooler, but they still were

442
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: happy to be seeing our car. Anyway, I thought, all

443
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: they need is to hire a Porsche engineer to come

444
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: over here and put one of those resonator tubes in

445
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: this vantage.

446
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: Because I think that's what Bentley did. They just hired

447
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: a Porscha engineer to come over here and make the

448
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: car better.

449
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: So in any case, that's one of my issues with

450
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: the dvantage. I'll preface this by saying I love this car.

451
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: You can change the exhaust. There's an exhaust button, so

452
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: you can go like low, and then if you're in

453
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: sport or track mode, it goes to medium, and then

454
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: if you choose to go to hard, you can get

455
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: the red level. But it still isn't that aggressive. It's

456
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: just I thought maybe because Aston Martin drivers are discerning

457
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: and they want to be elegant and somehow understated in

458
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: a way.

459
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: But maybe the thing is, my thing is that is

460
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: not how the car is being positioned and sold. If

461
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: the car was being positioned and sold as a refined,

462
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: sort of subtle, elegant thing, then I could understand it's

463
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: sounding more demure. But I don't know. Thanks, but I

464
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 2: don't get that from what I'm being told the car is.

465
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: You know, the car is not being sold? Is that?

466
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: And yes, it's this vantage in particular, is thirty percent

467
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: more powerful than the previous model, with fifteen percent more torque.

468
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: It's stiffer than the previous model. It's for certain, unimprovement

469
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: over the previous vantage, but it is still slower than

470
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: the nine to eleven and slower than than a nine

471
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: to eleven turbo specifically, and slower than the AMGGT s,

472
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: which I love.

473
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: I will say the speed, like the numbers don't matter

474
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: that much to me and probably not to most buyers.

475
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: Right if it's zero sixty three point four seconds versus

476
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: I mean, then get the Corvette because that's zero sixty

477
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: and two and a half seconds. But I guarantee you

478
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: people aren't cross shopping a Corvette and this Aston Martin.

479
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: I think the numbers indicate what you feel when you drive. Well,

480
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: I know this is this feel that this is not

481
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: as tight.

482
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: This is my thing with the One of the things

483
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: I love about this Aston Martin, which initially kind of

484
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: scared me, is it will bite you in the like

485
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: if you drop the pedal. And it's an automatic obviously

486
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: with with paddle shifters, but I'd usually drive an automatic

487
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: mode because if I'm gonna shift, I want to stick

488
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: in a clutch. So whatever, if you drive the if

489
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: you drive with the paddles, you won't notice this. But

490
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: if you're in automatic mode and you just kick it

491
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: down all the way, the boost and the and the

492
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: and the and the lag mean that you're losing the

493
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: rear end. Like.

494
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: It will bite you.

495
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: It can be ferocious, and I love that about it.

496
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: It's a little scary the first time you learn it.

497
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: I was coming back from New York on the FDR

498
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: in one of those you know tunnels, and I pack

499
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: this car was in the left lane wouldn't get out

500
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: of the way, so I got on the right, put

501
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: the pedal all the way down, and just the rear

502
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: end kind of slid out to the to the right,

503
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh man, I'm gonna hit the wall.

504
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: So it was like a puckering moment. But after that,

505
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this is awesome, Like this thing

506
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: can really deliver and you have to respect it completely.

507
00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: But it doesn't sound like that.

508
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: No, it's actually nice to hear you say that, because

509
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: I had my own little moment like that actually on

510
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: the track, thank god, not not on the open road.

511
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: But I remember, you know, I would when I drove

512
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: this Monta Blanco. I had my own little moment like

513
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: that where it kind of got away from me just

514
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: a little bit and it kind of catches you out,

515
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: and I remember thinking, oh, maybe I'm losing my touch.

516
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't expecting that this car got a

517
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: little squirrely on me, and it does kind of bite

518
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: you and maybe that's maybe people like that, Maybe it's

519
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: a good thing. And I also thought too, I've become

520
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: so accustomed to, you know, all wheel steering and all

521
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: all of the extreme wheel drive exactly and all wheel

522
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: drive and all of the I don't want to say

523
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: nanny systems, but the systems that really balance out the

524
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: car and make it a lot more predictable. The Vantage

525
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: doesn't have that necessarily, so it certainly can kind of

526
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: bite you in the rear.

527
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, I haven't had a lot of

528
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: experience with ferraris really the only Ferrari that I've driven

529
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: for a substantial amount of time is the FF and

530
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: I had a very similar experience on the FDR. Now

531
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: that's you know, all wheel drive. It's just got a

532
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: ton of power, probably about the same this This Vantage

533
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: has like six hundred and fifty horse power, I think, yeah,

534
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: somewhere around there.

535
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: I think six fifty six if we're being exact.

536
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Okay, but the two wheel drive ferraris like the four

537
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: fifty eight and the four eighty eight, those you know, legendary.

538
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure that they're a little bit scary if you

539
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: get down and dirty with it as well, right, they

540
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: can probably bite you too.

541
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: I honestly don't recall having that moment in the latest Ferraris.

542
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: I've driven the two ninety six, the twelve, Chillindrey, the

543
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: four eighty eight. I think those are sort of the

544
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: latest ones that I don't recall having that feeling. To me,

545
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: I like a car that is predictable, that feels like

546
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: it's working with me, not against me.

547
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want it. I want it that way like

548
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the time. But I want there to

549
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: be I want it to be a little bit scary,

550
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: like the okay, like what you're looking for in a

551
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: not to marry dating partner in your twenties.

552
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: Right, Well, you already said you were buying this just

553
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: based on the look, so I already knew that's where

554
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: we were headed with.

555
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, you want.

556
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: Uh, there's some volatility to be.

557
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: A little bit disturbed if.

558
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: It's just volatility, right So any.

559
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, volatility is a great word to use. So anyway,

560
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: I had to put that in the CON's column, and

561
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: now I'm putting in the pros column because now I've

562
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: now I know it's there and I've pretty much mastered it.

563
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: Now, can we talk about the interior of the Vantage

564
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: because your thoughts.

565
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: The interior is beautiful in terms of the leather and stuff, obviously,

566
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: but the infotainment system I feel like someone who is

567
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: a fan of the Cassio Watch, the digital watch in

568
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: the eighties, like it does look like an early nineties

569
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: design of what an interior system should look like in

570
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: the future. So and it's not intuitive, and it's really

571
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: frankly not good.

572
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: Like you know, and this is the improved version.

573
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah too. So I don't know why they just don't

574
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: take the m bux system from Mercedes and copy it.

575
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: By the way, for a three hundred thousand dollars car,

576
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: which this one is with all the options. There's no

577
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: wireless Apple car Play are too serious about it.

578
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: This has been a constant thing, you know. I can

579
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: only say it so many times. They know I'm going

580
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: to say it in the review. This has been a

581
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: constant struggle. This is I think one of their big

582
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: achilles here is heals when we're talking about choosing and

583
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: aston over choosing a Portie or a Mercedes, I just

584
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: don't or a Bentley. It doesn't They're just not quite

585
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: on the same level as the competition.

586
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: Yet I'm used to in modern pushing the the voice

587
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: button to enter navigation or to change the serious channel,

588
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, And every time I did it, it said,

589
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, voice not available right now. A couple of

590
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: times the entire infotainment system stopped working, glitched, and then

591
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: shut off while I was driving. You know, Oh no

592
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: you can't. You cannot change easily changed channels of what

593
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: you're listening to. And by the way, you are listening

594
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: to the radio because it's not like you need it

595
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: down so you can just hear the good lost. It

596
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: just could be so much better. It seems it already

597
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: looks outdated. And that's a fear you have when you

598
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: buy an AID and Martin, because your number one fear

599
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: is depreciation, right, And you look at you know, ten

600
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: year old twelve, fifteen year old dB whatever, and you

601
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: think they look outdated already. And this one, I don't

602
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: think it's going to but who knows in the theior,

603
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: but the interior is already outdated. I don't know why

604
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: they do that. By the way, this this gets me

605
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: too expensive? Yeah, this gets me to my Laurence Stroll thing.

606
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 1: So Laurence Stroll, Whun's at Aston Martin. I think his

607
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: theory is if we can get margins up to Ferrari

608
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: levels and sell the same amount as a Ferrari, we

609
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: should be able to get a Ferrari valuation on the

610
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: stock market. And I don't think he's wrong about that.

611
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna win in Formula one. He's got Adrian Newey,

612
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: you know.

613
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: So he's well, that's that's right now. In McLaren's at

614
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: the top of the of the championship.

615
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna compete.

616
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: Let's say, okay, so well he's moving up.

617
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: So when on Sunday sell on Monday is going to

618
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: work for them? They have a storied historically a storied brand,

619
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 1: you know, like Ferrari. Maybe not the same same heights,

620
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: but still that the vehicles are beautiful and exclusive and

621
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: very expensive, so the same as this This thing is

622
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: definitely as good as a Ferrari. What do they call

623
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: the roma? You know?

624
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: No, no, wait, are you saying the vantage as good

625
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: as the roma?

626
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: Good looking? As good looking? I mean it's subjective, but

627
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: you know it's got this elegant, you know, beautiful style.

628
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: All they need to do is lift the quality of

629
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: things like the interior, not too much because a Ferrari

630
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: is still an Italian car, you know, but they have

631
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: to it has to be better in terms of the

632
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: way it functions. And then my idea to Laurence Stroll,

633
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: and I'm going to write them a letter, is this

634
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: is a car that really needs a manual transmission. I

635
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: love it with the automatic. I would love to have one.

636
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: And you know, if I had the money, I would

637
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: go out and buy one because it's that good. But

638
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: if it had a stick shift, that would put it

639
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: head and shoulders above the competition. Then if I'm cross

640
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: shopping this with Aroma, I'm going to go with the

641
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: one that has a stick Right, Ferrari has already passed

642
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: that point, and they're never going to put a manual

643
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: transmission in anything again.

644
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: No, they've said that.

645
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you The take rate If I'm not wrong,

646
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: the take rate on manuals has been climbing right, even

647
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: in higher and I thought it had and climbing since

648
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: the pandemic. And definitely, if you look at any of

649
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: these cars used, you're gonna pay more for the stick

650
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: version than you are for.

651
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: That's for sure, that's for sure. But almost No. I

652
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: mean we've We've spoken about this so much. I mean,

653
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 2: almost no automaker besides Subaru, Mazda and Portia even makes

654
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: a stick shift, including Corvette, which really should. And Aston Martin,

655
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: you know, for that manual story I wrote a couple

656
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Aston Martin just says it doesn't make sense.

657
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 2: I mean, the idea of you driving this car with

658
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: a stick shift and then conquering the volatility that we

659
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: just described seems like a big challenge and you are

660
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: somebody who wants that. So think about less experienced or

661
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: novice drivers who buy the car because it's beautiful and

662
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 2: then they get a stick shift because I think they should.

663
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: It just seems like a recipe for disaster.

664
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you could make then a

665
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: naturally aspirated version of it stick shift. In any case,

666
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: look how well Portia does with their manual transmissions. Like

667
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: the GT three Touring is the one to buy or was,

668
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: you know, in at least in the nine nine conjetition. Yeah,

669
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: I just feel like to the to the kind of

670
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: customer that's going to pay three hundred thousand dollars for

671
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: an amazing sports car, it would set them apart from

672
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: Ferrari land LAMBERGHI.

673
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 2: It definitely would. That would be a really gutsy move

674
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: because remember what Mark Royce told us about why Corvette

675
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: doesn't have a stick because it's too much. It's and

676
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: the expense would be implemented all the way up and

677
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 2: down the line, not just in one model like that creates.

678
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: He called it scar costs that cut into the whole

679
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 2: model lineup, and really he doesn't think that they would

680
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 2: be able to come back from basically, and I expect

681
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: the same applies here and when you have I'm just

682
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: looking at my review of the Advantage at the time,

683
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: I wrote that, okay, the price was up nine percent

684
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: compared to the previous version because Aston's trying to get

685
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: forty percent sales margins. So the idea that they're trying

686
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: to move sales margins up to forty percent and then

687
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: install a manual would remove all of their progress towards

688
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 2: getting higher sales margins, right, that is true.

689
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: I just feel like they have to do something that's

690
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: going to give them a leg up. Right now, when

691
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: you look at if you're cross shopping a Ferrari and

692
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: an Aston Martin, your first thought is the Ferrari is

693
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: going to be worth more after I drive it off

694
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: the lot. You know, not the Roma maybe, but any

695
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: higher level, right.

696
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: The Roma will be valuable. I'm going to take up

697
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: for the Roma.

698
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. I'm just guessing. But because California,

699
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: I would hope to depreciate.

700
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: The Roma is a wildly different vehicle than true.

701
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: True, true, but the Aston Martin is likely to depreciate

702
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, right, at least they have in the past,

703
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: And so that's what you're going to be thinking. So

704
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: why do I buy the Aston Martin over the Ferrari?

705
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: And if you can say this, this one comes with

706
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: a stick, like this is really made for somebody who

707
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: wants an analog driving experience, that I think, and that's

708
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: where that was true of the old Aston Martin vantage

709
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: GTS as well.

710
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: I just had a thought though, putting a stick along

711
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: with that enfotainment system that feels like sort of nineteen

712
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: nineties even makes it feel even more regressive.

713
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: They would do better on the entertainment, absolutely, they have

714
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: to do better.

715
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: On that any but there's there are a couple of

716
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: things on the checklist and.

717
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: They have to do better anyway, and you know they

718
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: should try. I like I say all carmakers should try

719
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: and go back to buttons, back to gauges, and they

720
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: will to some extent. Let me just read you the

721
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: options list because I thought this was pretty interesting, okay,

722
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 1: And also say, by the way, I've been driving cars

723
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: with such great stereos. The Cadillac was awesome, you know,

724
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: the Portia Caman stereo was great, the you know, the

725
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: Infinity had a great stereo system. This thing horrible, I mean,

726
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: just not good.

727
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: Do we say that? What does that actually mean?

728
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: So it just didn't have any character. It didn't have

729
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: any bass. And I'm not looking for like some hip

730
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: hop like Dodge Challenger Base. I'm just looking for full sound.

731
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why sound's rich.

732
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why it matters when I read you

733
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: the price of the stereo system. The car, the Aston

734
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: Martin Vantage, costs one hundred and ninety one thousand, starting

735
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: four options. The first option on this list is the

736
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: Bowers and Wilkins audio system. By the way, Bowers and

737
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: Wilkins makes amazing audio systems.

738
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: For example, universally respected.

739
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: My wife's Volvo had upgraded Bowers and Wilkins, and it

740
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: was fantastic. And that was I think like a four

741
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: thousand dollars option or five thousand dollars option. For the Aston,

742
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: it's a ten thousand dollars option. What and it's not

743
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: good break disc type carbon fourteen thousan four hundred, expensive

744
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: but worth it because the brakes are amazing, amazing, I

745
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: mean really good and you need them to be.

746
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: Is that the type of thing though, that you feel

747
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: you need to tell everyone how much they cost, just so,

748
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: like you know, I'm wearing a really nice suit or watch,

749
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: you kind of want to tell.

750
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: It's the kind of thing that comes up. But you know,

751
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't think for carbon breaks that's necessarily expensive. I

752
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: don't know how much. The option on Porsio is usually

753
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: about a ten thousand dollars option, right.

754
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, carbon breaks are the most expensive, expensive, but they

755
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: are the.

756
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: Break calipers painted in Aston Martin Racing Green one nine hundred.

757
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: It's expensive, but they're beautiful. Center finisher satin carbon fiber

758
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: forty three hundred. I don't know what that is. I

759
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: think it's an interior carbon fiber piece forty three hundred.

760
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: This is this is the speckless specifically for the car

761
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: you drove.

762
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, carpet color contemporary. That's the color of the

763
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: carpet twenty four hundred. I wonder what the standard is

764
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: the paint signature Metallic sixty four hundred, First Aid Kit

765
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: three hundred, that's as don't need that, no, but I

766
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: mean that three hundre dollars.

767
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: You might apply some band aids at CBS.

768
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Headlining headlining primary Alcantara. You need to have Alkantara headlining and.

769
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: A cool what's the alternative?

770
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: It should come stock?

771
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: But okay, you're right, all of these for that for

772
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: the two hundred thousand dollars price should be standard.

773
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: Not the carbon brakes but any not the car, but

774
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: headliner thirty one hundred. Leather color, which is the color

775
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: is Q special. So they're hearkening back to the James

776
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: Bond days sixty four hundred. That's for the for the

777
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: leather roof panel, carbon fiber forty seven hundred. Presenting door handles.

778
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that really means, because they

779
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: don't present themselves to me.

780
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: They should have they should. These are the door handles

781
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: that are flush with the car, but then when you

782
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: get close to the car with the keyfob, they are

783
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: supposed to present.

784
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't work, but maybe I need to push a button.

785
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: Contrast stitching twenty nine hundred.

786
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: I hate contrasted ching.

787
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. And also I didn't even know his contrast.

788
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back out and look he did. Steering

789
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: wheel eight hundred. That's a bargain.

790
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 2: That's a bargain, that's a for sure.

791
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: Yes, that's how much BMW charges.

792
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: Even in LA. Yeah, some of these winter Mornings.

793
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: Tail lamps smoked fourteen hundred. By the way, Portia does

794
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: this too. They charge you an extra grand or two

795
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 1: for a different color tail amp. It's going to cost

796
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: them like forty five cents exactly. Carbon pack upper, I'm

797
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: guessing this is exterior fifty seven hundred.

798
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: Was that actually visible?

799
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: Well?

800
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: Or is that underneath the paint?

801
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's the mirrors. Okay, thin carbon pack

802
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: lower twelve three dollars. That's going to be like the splitter.

803
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

804
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: By the way, I know that this costs that much

805
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: because you know how, my neighbor has this M four GTS.

806
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: I was pulling out of his driveway the first day

807
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: I ever drove it, and I broke the splitter. Oh

808
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: at BMW splitter.

809
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: You're still talking to that guy still talks to you.

810
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: Thousands of dollars.

811
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nightmare.

812
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was my mistake. Okay. Interior Inspire Sport Duo

813
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: Tone fourteen thousand, one hundred. I don't even really know

814
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: what that is. I think it means that they have

815
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: two colors on the interior fourteen thousand, Umbrella five hundred dollars.

816
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: Have never personally spent five hundred dollars for an umbrella,

817
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: but I've spent like two.

818
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: Fifty unless it's built into the door.

819
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it is.

820
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 2: It rolls Royce. I think I can get a cheaper umbrella.

821
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: And then finally, twenty one inch why spoke forge satin

822
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: copper bronze wheels fifty eight hundred worth it.

823
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: They're fifty eight hundred for the set for the four Yeah,

824
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: I'm assuming fine, Fine, So what's the total total is

825
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: on the car? Ninety two thousands, so three five hundred,

826
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: which brings us up to Bentley level.

827
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but basse Bentley level for this. And by the way,

828
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: they're very different cars obviously, of.

829
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: Course, of course, but not that different. I mean they're different,

830
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: but not that different in terms of what there.

831
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: Is the Bentley. Now a four seater. Is it two

832
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: plus two? No, it's just it's a two In any case,

833
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: I thought.

834
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, sorry, sorry brain fog. No it's it's four.

835
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: It has four seats. It's a two door four. Sorry,

836
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: it's a two door four seat.

837
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're different. I mean the Bentley, you're right,

838
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: the Bentley is for cruising on the Autobahn, for sure.

839
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: That's kind of what I was wanting. I wanted some

840
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: like a little bit wider open roads.

841
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: And this vantage is a little bit more for those

842
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: famous Swiss mountain roads.

843
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, those roads.

844
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: I've driven them a lot, just because I lived there

845
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: for so long. They're not really fantastic for driving on,

846
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: certainly not those. There's one hundred switchbacks in two miles,

847
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, and I usually do it on a motorcycle.

848
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: You just really can't ring it out. You've got to

849
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: slow down so much for the hairpin that it's like, ugh.

850
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: The roads are difficult and slow, and it is true

851
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: that you never really get above forty miles an hour

852
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 2: for the bulk of that type of driving. They're slow,

853
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: and they're narrow, and they're hilly, and every other turn

854
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: there's a cyclist or an RV that makes you need

855
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: to slow down even more.

856
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

857
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're they're a challenge.

858
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: They keep you a pictures.

859
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: Extremely picturesque, and yeah, you definitely get to feel the

860
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: body roll of the car as you're sort of climbing

861
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: up this paper clip pass.

862
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: Did you come up with that paper clip pass? Because

863
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: that's good?

864
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: I did. I love it. Thanks. Thanks.

865
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Let me just finally tell you that there are very

866
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: good back country roads in Dutchess County.

867
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: Oh I totally know it upstate New York.

868
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: Like, so my bachelor party that I went to last weekend,

869
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: we were shooting in Millbrook at Sandanona, and we were

870
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: hiking in the Mohawk Mountains the Mohawk Mountain House, which,

871
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: by the way, if you haven't done a piece on

872
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: the Mohawk Mountain House for pursuits yet, I don't really

873
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: think you should. Okay, it's amazing, But the roads are

874
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: so great. And I was in this Cadillac, which I

875
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: didn't really expect to be impressed by the CT five.

876
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: It's called the premium Luxury and you made a great

877
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: point about that.

878
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: If you have to say it, it's not.

879
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I had the I think it's the top of

880
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: the line version, so you can choose the four cylinder

881
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: of the six cylinder. I had the six cylinder. I

882
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: had the all wheel drive, and it had super crews.

883
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: It handles like a dream come true on these backcountry roads.

884
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, really really fun to drive.

885
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: Cool.

886
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: It took me like a couple of days to get

887
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: my seat position right because you get in the car

888
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: expecting it to be a luxury sedan and you've really

889
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: got a position in your seat like it's a sports

890
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: car because it is really it's a fower door sports car.

891
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm so surprised.

892
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: It's a ripper at the motor I absolutely loved it.

893
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: Sounds fantastic. It has an AKG stereo that really delivers.

894
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: I was listening to a lot of Grateful Dead and

895
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: a lot of Tool. The newest Tool Record sounds great

896
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: in this car, and I know that's not a new

897
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: Tool record but a couple years old, and just I

898
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: was just blown away and impressed, and so were all

899
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: the guys that got in with me. I couldn't take

900
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: too many people because I had one of my shotguns

901
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: doesn't break down, so I had it.

902
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: Across the back seat do you have a license for that, Matt.

903
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need a license for a shotgun and

904
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: just a truly satisfying car. And I was begging the

905
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: guys to give me the CT five V black Wing version,

906
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: and I do still want to drive it because you

907
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: can get it with a stick and a supercharged V

908
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: eight and it's probably one of the best cars that

909
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: you can buy Todaykay.

910
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: So here's my question. Is this the exact inverse opposite

911
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 2: of the vantage where it looks horrible on the outside

912
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: but it drives great? And are you saying this is

913
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: the one that's like more of a lifelong companion, this

914
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,240
Speaker 2: is the one to see what you're saying.

915
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I want to just say that

916
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: my wife is the most I've ever laid eyes on.

917
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: Of course, this isn't, this is not it's any commentary

918
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: on why.

919
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: This is like the car When you look at it,

920
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of forgettable. It's attractive, you know, No.

921
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: It's not. It's a it's an old man sitan. It's

922
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: like what my grandpa would drive. And I love my

923
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: granddad so much, but I'm pretty sure he might have

924
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: had this car.

925
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: Yes, No, my buddy's dad, my grandfather had it, so

926
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: funny buddy that. Yeah. No, so it does look like

927
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: your grandfather's car, and kind of a more compact, tighter version.

928
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: It's not a looker, but when you finally get the

929
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: seats set up right, it's very comfortable. It's a little

930
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: bit lower than you expect. So for older people, this

931
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: is not a car.

932
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: Wait. Oh, I thought you were gonna say it's easier

933
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: if you can't lift your legs, you can kind of

934
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: just roll it.

935
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: No, it's like getting around of a sports car. It

936
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: really is like driving a sports car, honestly, But this

937
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: is the car you marry. I think, I know when

938
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: you add all the options, I think it's still less

939
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: than sixty thousand for a cranking stereo that rips around corners.

940
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a canyon carver that has that

941
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: sounds fantastic. You got to drive it, handa, you have to.

942
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: You have to drive it.

943
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: I'd like to drive it. I like to drive it.

944
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: I just was really impressed, really.

945
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: Really close my eyes. Before I get in.

946
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: I had this like sea foam green color.

947
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, but you know what I would.

948
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: I found myself thinking like, oh man, I don't hope

949
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: they don't take this away.

950
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: Well, you are really smiling, honestly, like I can see it.

951
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: I can see it.

952
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised. And it's also cool because we

953
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: have a listener, Andrew that I was talking about last time,

954
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: who wrote in and he wanted a review of this,

955
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: and he specifically wanted to review the super CRUs function.

956
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: And for the whole weekend, I was just ripping around

957
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: these backcountry and I thought, I'm never going to use this.

958
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: Then we ended up one day in a weird bachelor

959
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: party type situation very far away all of a sudden,

960
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: and we had to get on the highway to come

961
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: back for like, I don't know, thirty five forty miles,

962
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: and so I set supercrews and my brother was riding shotgun,

963
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: my closest brother, And at first I was like, this

964
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: is so weird. I can't look away, you know, I

965
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: don't have put my hands on the wheels and don't

966
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: put my feet on the pedals. I set it at

967
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: like seventy five, and I said, you can't look away,

968
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: because I heard Mary Barra saying that to somebody in

969
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: an interview recently. I think maybe it was I can't

970
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: remember it. But I heard Mary Barr saying that. I thought, Okay,

971
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: I can't turn your eyes away. But then I'm in

972
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: this deep conversation with my brother. I think about Danny Carey,

973
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: the drummer for Tool, and I'm looking at him and

974
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: he's like, dude, you're not looking ahead. And I realized

975
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: you don't really have to look ahead. You can't, like

976
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: if you start reading your phone or newspaper. I think

977
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: it would notice. But yeah, I forgot. I was driving

978
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: for a solid fifteen twenty miles and it does everything.

979
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: It's passing. It's like, okay, the car in front of

980
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: you is slowing you down. It says, I'm going to

981
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: pull you out in the left lane. It looks for

982
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: an opening, it pulls you out, it passes, and then

983
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: it gets back in the right lane.

984
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: It's not gonna make your exit for you. No, you know.

985
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: It's sort of like if you you need this for

986
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: a really long stretch up road. Yeah, not not something

987
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: where you might have to be heads up to make

988
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 2: an exit.

989
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: No sense. And I mean, you know, just like every

990
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: other manufacturer, they haven't integrated with Apple CarPlay perfectly yet.

991
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: So I use car Play. I use Google Maps, in

992
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 1: car play for my directions. I probably could just use

993
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: the Cadillacs directions because they use a Google based system.

994
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: But the point is, it's not in your heads up display,

995
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: it's not in your dash.

996
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: Now, can I just rack my mind? Isn't this car

997
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: a six cylinder?

998
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: It is? Now?

999
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: Why have you not led with this information?

1000
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: Because the way I said you could choose the you

1001
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: can choose a four and a six. It honestly, it's

1002
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: so well executed that it doesn't bother me. And that's

1003
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: happened in a few cars.

1004
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: I like, Still, you're not talking about the gutlass, you know,

1005
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: no great engine. Note I don't hear any of it.

1006
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: It sound the engine sounded amazing. I mean when you

1007
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: really get into it. Yeah, No, I this is a

1008
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: six cylinder. I like. There are a few that I like.

1009
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: Maserati makes a six cylindery. I like Stilantis makes an

1010
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: inline six. I like I like BMW inline six.

1011
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: Is you know alright? All right? All right, all right?

1012
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: So I just want to have it on the records,

1013
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: of course. I just want to have it on the

1014
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: record that you know, you don't have to have an

1015
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: eight cylinder vehicle to be happy. Yeah, and satisfied with

1016
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: how it drives.

1017
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: That is true. I think that's probably all we have

1018
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: time for today. Yeah, did we have something else? Did

1019
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: you have anything else?

1020
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we can talk about this next week.

1021
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: But my Ferrari my review of the Ferrari twelve cylinders,

1022
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: speaking of cylinders, also went live this week. Oh and

1023
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: this car, I almost think we need a whole episode

1024
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: to talk about it. But it's by far better than

1025
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: anything we've talked about here.

1026
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: All right, you know what, let's dive into that next

1027
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: week because I also want to. I think we do

1028
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: owe that a little bit more.

1029
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: Yes, it needs a breathing room because it's a fabulous

1030
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: car and also a bit of a polarizing figure. A

1031
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: lot of people online do not like how it looks.

1032
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: But I actually I think it's going to age very well.

1033
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: But you know that it's not unlike the Roma. This

1034
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: isn't the car that everyone can immediately fall in love with.

1035
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: Right, No, for sure, it's only for an elevated, sophisticate buyer.

1036
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: Sophisticated buyer, right No, it's only for those of us

1037
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: exactly exactly.

1038
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: All right, So we'll get into that next time.

1039
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do have to say I do two

1040
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: quick things. I want to say that yesterday or actually Monday,

1041
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: I received my tenure trophy for being at Bloomberg, and

1042
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: I have to give a shout out to my editor

1043
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: Chris Rouser, who hired me and took a chance on

1044
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: me ten years ago. It's been quite a ride and

1045
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: actually went by very very quickly, so that's kind of exciting.

1046
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: How many years have you been at Bloomberg.

1047
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: Matt, twenty four? What this year? I will get my

1048
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: twenty five year We get pile ga. If you stay

1049
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: at Bloomberg for a long time, you get a pylon

1050
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: which is this like enamel sculpture. You get it for

1051
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: ten years, you get it for twenty years, you get

1052
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: it for twenty five, and then for each additional five years.

1053
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: Rado Grigory hired me in nineteen ninety nine. November of

1054
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. Wow, And I started work like January.

1055
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, January seventh of two thousand.

1056
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 2: When you started? Did you think that you would be

1057
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: at Bloomberg for that long?

1058
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: No? Definitely not. Well, I mean I didn't you know.

1059
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: When you're a kid, I was like five or something.

1060
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: When you're a kid, you just don't think about the

1061
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: future like that. But Chris made a great choice in

1062
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: hired you. I remember when you first came on and

1063
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: I was like, who is this girl who thinks that

1064
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: she's gonna tell us all about cars and mode? And yeah,

1065
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: I looked at your older stories and I thought, Okay,

1066
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: she knows what she's talking about. And definitely you and

1067
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: Chris and pursuits have grown into such an amazing thing.

1068
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: And you were talking about your your Bentley piece going BusinessWeek.

1069
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: I think that's so cool because I was just at

1070
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: a meeting with Brad Stone, who's the new editor in

1071
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: chief of BusinessWeek, and he was saying, like, they do

1072
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: a lot of great stories for digital and it doesn't

1073
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: necessarily mean they're better if they pick them for the magazine,

1074
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: but obviously they are better if they pick them for

1075
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: the magazine. So because you're going to be an actual print,

1076
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: your parents can pick up the magazine when they fly

1077
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: in and out of and yeah.

1078
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: Let me just say this happens most issues of the

1079
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: magazine too, So maybe hopefully there have been people who

1080
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Speaker 2: have been reading for the past ten years everything that's

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Speaker 2: been in the magazine. That's really nice of you to say,

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Speaker 2: and yes, Chris really had a vision for pursuits. I

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Speaker 2: mean he is the one who started pursuits for Bloomberg.

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Speaker 2: Before that, there was no action wool, luxury specific luxury

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Speaker 2: coverage or team. And Chris really is the one who

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Speaker 2: shaped that. So I do owe him quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: It's been really fun working with him. And I also

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Speaker 2: love that Rutto, who hired you, is also still at Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is very good company to be in.

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Speaker 1: Agreed. Agreed. Hopefully they will both greenlight our review of

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Speaker 1: the Mohonk Mountain House.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I made it. I actually wrote that down. I

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Speaker 2: made a note of that. I'll have to check it out.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I want to say is I just

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Speaker 2: want to shout out to my dad who had a

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Speaker 2: knee replacement surgery today and so he's going to be

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Speaker 2: recovering from that and I think in his spare time

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Speaker 2: maybe listening, and so I hope he feels better soon.

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Speaker 1: Everything went great, That's awesome. Yea'm glad the operation went well.

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Speaker 1: And also as I get, as i get older in years,

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Speaker 1: I look forward to the new joints that I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get. I wish they had an elbow replacement, but.

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Speaker 2: Is your elbow your Achilles heel?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I heard it in squash, and now I can't

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Speaker 1: really squash anymore. Now I have to play pickle ball.

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Speaker 1: But knee replacements and hip replacements are amazing.

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Speaker 2: I think they are.

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Speaker 1: It's work very well for day, that's what I hear. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the doctor who did his was going to

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Speaker 2: do you know, like five or six today, So it's

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Speaker 2: I guess that's who you want doing your replacement, someone

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Speaker 2: who does them a lot.

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Speaker 1: We'll congratulations on this. Cool. We'll see you back here,

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Speaker 1: same time, same place next week.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Miller, I'm Anna Elliott, and this is Bloomberg