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Speaker 4: Well, welcome into another edition of Talking Cowboys featuring myself,
Speaker 4: Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, and Patrick Nosey Walker. I'm Hailey
Speaker 4: Sutton in for Kyle Yeomans one final time as he
Speaker 4: wraps up his honeymoon celebration.
Speaker 5: Nobo, we got a boogie celebration, sing around the last
Speaker 5: Man from Seattle, and I never even had the money
Speaker 5: to go to the Last so I'll try.
Speaker 6: What kind of money is this boy make around here?
Speaker 7: I know I need picks, Kyle, I know you're listening.
Speaker 7: I need picks. I need videos because I've not yet
Speaker 7: had the pleasure to go to Alaska, but I know
Speaker 7: for a fact that it's one of the most beautiful
Speaker 7: places on earth, So congratulations on that. But I need
Speaker 7: I need to live vicariously through him like I did
Speaker 7: you through you in Mexico with the whales and yeah,
Speaker 7: you guys have.
Speaker 6: Nice vacation.
Speaker 8: Mexico.
Speaker 6: I drive to the Star from my vacation. Vacation, I
Speaker 6: getting nick.
Speaker 8: You know, yea, yeah exactly, just come back. No trip.
Speaker 8: Weren't you just in Seattle?
Speaker 2: Like for.
Speaker 5: I wish, I wish I got to go somewhere. I
Speaker 5: don't get to go anywhere. You see my summer, I
Speaker 5: try to look forward. This would be the only week
Speaker 5: that my family and I can actually travel anywhere, Like.
Speaker 6: This is the only one week that we have because
Speaker 6: of the track. My kids are in.
Speaker 7: Track, so one of the best sports. Yeah, every just
Speaker 7: considered your whole summer.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's so oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to hate running summer track. It was
Speaker 4: like the bane of my existence.
Speaker 8: But anyways, we move on. What did I run? What
Speaker 8: do you think I ran?
Speaker 6: No, I'm not going to guess. It's like guessing somebody's Yeah,
Speaker 6: you don't guess what a vincedbody.
Speaker 4: I was a sprinter, So I ran the one, the two,
Speaker 4: the eight hundred. That's not a sprint, I know, but
Speaker 4: that's what I was going to say. It wasn't my choice.
Speaker 4: My coach made me run the eight hundred.
Speaker 6: She said, she ran the one, so yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Ran the one.
Speaker 6: The two eight hundred is a sprint for some people,
Speaker 6: which I don't know what.
Speaker 4: Their loans are because I played soccer, and so it
Speaker 4: was a good.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then actually I was a very good long jumper
Speaker 4: triple jumper, so yeah, I actually real quick.
Speaker 8: Flex.
Speaker 4: I learned how to triple jump the day of my
Speaker 4: first ever track meet in the eighth grade, and I
Speaker 4: never lost flat this morning, guys, a.
Speaker 6: Little bit of a flex I like it. I like
Speaker 6: it a lot.
Speaker 4: All right, let's get into some cowboys conversations today. A
Speaker 4: lot of news how happening around the league. But the
Speaker 4: biggest that we actually discussed yesterday at lunch Patrick is
Speaker 4: the new quarterback rule that has been enlisted for the
Speaker 4: NFL in this upcoming season. I'm going to let you
Speaker 4: dive into the details of it, but real quick, just
Speaker 4: here's the skinny on what that looks like. So essentially,
Speaker 4: the NFL is allowing rosters to add a third quarterback
Speaker 4: onto their game day roster as long.
Speaker 8: As that player is on the fifty three.
Speaker 4: And the best part about it is it doesn't affect
Speaker 4: your inactives. It doesn't affect your roster cap in terms
Speaker 4: of a fifty three man roster of forty five man
Speaker 4: game day roster. There are some caveats to it that
Speaker 4: third quarterback cannot play in a game until the first
Speaker 4: and second string quarterbacks have gone out, but obviously a
Speaker 4: lot of flexibility in terms of what teams can do
Speaker 4: with that role.
Speaker 8: Specifically the Cowboys who have three quarterbacks on their roster
Speaker 8: this year.
Speaker 4: Patrick kind of just dive into what that looks like
Speaker 4: for this team and what it's going to kind of
Speaker 4: look like.
Speaker 8: For the NFL.
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, that sound you hear is Will
Speaker 7: Grier smiling hear to hear, because this rule basically guarantees that,
Speaker 7: you know, assuming he remains the third quarterback on the team,
Speaker 7: it basically guarantees he gets to suit up every single week. Now,
Speaker 7: as you said, Haley, he doesn't get to play unless
Speaker 7: both QB one Dak Prescott and Cooper Rosh QB two
Speaker 7: are injured in that particular game, and then he gets
Speaker 7: to go in. But once they're medically cleared, which is
Speaker 7: another caveat, once they're medically cleared, if they're medically cleared
Speaker 7: to return to that game, he has to come back
Speaker 7: out of the game.
Speaker 6: So that's kind of the dance there.
Speaker 7: But the beauty of it is for the Cowboys is
Speaker 7: they will never be in a situation like we saw
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers in in the NFC Championship against
Speaker 7: the Philadelphia Eagles when Christian McCaffrey was taken warm up
Speaker 7: reps possibly about to go in at QB.
Speaker 6: So that's what that rule is.
Speaker 7: We can kind of dub it the Christian McCaffrey room, right,
Speaker 7: But you gotta love it because it also means that
Speaker 7: the Cowboys neither you know, know, any of the other
Speaker 7: thirty one teams have to burn a roster spot. It's
Speaker 7: more or less a roster exemption specific for QB three
Speaker 7: on a week to week basis. So like you said, Haley,
Speaker 7: number one is they have to make the active fifty
Speaker 7: three man roster and final cutdowns. You cannot stash the
Speaker 7: QB on the practice squad because anyone that's elevated in
Speaker 7: any given week is not eligible to be designated as
Speaker 7: your emergency QB, and they have to make that designation
Speaker 7: the same time they make the inactives known, which is
Speaker 7: ninety minutes, no later than ninety minutes probably to kickoff.
Speaker 7: So those are the key things. But for Will Greer,
Speaker 7: who is still going to compete with Cooper Rush. I
Speaker 7: know Cooper Rush's resigning strongly implies that he's going to
Speaker 7: be the QB two. But we're not going to sit
Speaker 7: here and say there's not going to be.
Speaker 6: A battle there.
Speaker 7: Will Greer arguably took the lead in that battle last
Speaker 7: summer before he suffered the growing injury. I look forward
Speaker 7: to that battle happening again in training camp in July.
Speaker 7: But I mean, it's a fantastic rule all around. Can't
Speaker 7: say the same about the other rule that was approved yesterday.
Speaker 7: And I was tossing the Carris for that one. Yeah,
Speaker 7: but I guess you get a win, but you got
Speaker 7: to take a loss as well if you're an NFL fan,
Speaker 7: And so the loss is the Thursday night flexs rule.
Speaker 6: I'll let Harris dive in that one. Yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 10: At the owner's meetings yesterday, the NFL also approved Thursday
Speaker 10: night football flex scheduling, which basically allows the NFL twenty
Speaker 10: eight days before so you have to have a twenty
Speaker 10: eight day notice four weeks to move a Thursday night
Speaker 10: football game to Sunday and then move a Sunday afternoon
Speaker 10: game to Thursday night. There's a lot of different stipulations
Speaker 10: that they would have to meet. It can only be
Speaker 10: in week thirteen through seventeen because there's not a Thursday
Speaker 10: night football game in week eighteen. A team can't be
Speaker 10: on the road two times on a Thursday night game,
Speaker 10: and they still can only have two Thursday night games.
Speaker 10: So it's a slim chance that anything even happens with
Speaker 10: the flex Thursday night football scheduling. But let's say you
Speaker 10: are a Jets fan and y'all are playing in Denver
Speaker 10: in week seventeen, and you have just always wanted to
Speaker 10: go to Mile High on a Thursday night and you
Speaker 10: find out twenty eight days before that it's going to
Speaker 10: be Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 6: You got to change all of.
Speaker 10: Your scheduling, you got to move your flights around, movie
Speaker 10: tickets around. And that's why eight voters voted against it.
Speaker 10: The Cowboys did vote for it. Twenty four to eight
Speaker 10: was the final count, and twenty four is the minimum
Speaker 10: allowed to pass a rule, and it passed barely. But
Speaker 10: it's there's some fans that are very upset about it.
Speaker 10: Giants owner is very upset about it. It looks like
Speaker 10: Isaiah stand back to my right is upset about it
Speaker 10: here leg well as well.
Speaker 7: It's unfortunate for the fame, say with you to me,
Speaker 7: and to be honest with you, that that aspect really
Speaker 7: doesn't bother me that much. The whole Thursday night flex thing,
Speaker 7: it doesn't affect Dallas, right, Dallas already has two Thursday
Speaker 7: night game scheduled.
Speaker 6: Correct, So we got obviously is one of those things.
Speaker 8: Well they do. It's not Thursday night Thursday, okay, gotcha?
Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, I mean it is whatever to me
Speaker 5: as a player, you don't like Thursday night games.
Speaker 6: Let's just call it how it is.
Speaker 5: You hate Thursday night games because your body literally just
Speaker 5: recovered the day before from the previous week. So after
Speaker 5: the player's perspective, it absolutely sucks. But let's be honest,
Speaker 5: this league is not forward facing in terms of taking
Speaker 5: care of the players.
Speaker 6: This is about the money in the pockets of the owner.
Speaker 5: So knowing that that's the fact, you shrugg your shoulder
Speaker 5: and you say, okay, there's just another thing that helps
Speaker 5: them put more money in their pocket. The third quarterback thing.
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to that and how coaches and organizations
Speaker 5: work around that rule. Because now all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: it's like, oh my knee hurts. Okay, come on in
Speaker 5: here for this next quarter real quick.
Speaker 6: I feel like you're hinting at some Bill BELICHICKI is.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, there's always a workaround. Okay, there's always
Speaker 5: a work around. So I am looking more forward to
Speaker 5: that third quarterback and how organization is determined.
Speaker 6: To go forward with that.
Speaker 5: You know how it's going to go. So my gosh,
Speaker 5: I sprained my big topic. Let me go get it
Speaker 5: scanned real quick, right, And so it starts.
Speaker 7: Open, the backup quarterback starts oerver five and then suddenly
Speaker 7: historic starts to miracle.
Speaker 6: I don't feel, well.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm interested in. But the whole, the whole
Speaker 7: flex thing, it is what it is. I mean, it's
Speaker 7: I'm not surprised.
Speaker 6: It doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing about the Thursday night game, so that
Speaker 4: we found and I don't know if this was just
Speaker 4: by chance last season because it was new, it was
Speaker 4: Amazon Prime, it was a new group of people trying
Speaker 4: to get it together.
Speaker 8: So I think the production as a.
Speaker 4: Whole will be better this year now that they've got
Speaker 4: it under, they've got a season under their belt, they've
Speaker 4: been developing. So that was a big issue with Thursday
Speaker 4: Night Football last year. And then the second issue with
Speaker 4: Thursday Night Football is I'm going to say seventy seven
Speaker 4: percent of the matchups that we saw on Thursday Night.
Speaker 8: Football last year were awful.
Speaker 4: And the one that comes to mind it was the
Speaker 4: Broncos and the was it the Rams that went to
Speaker 4: like double overtime and it was like six to three.
Speaker 7: That was the one. It was in Denver, it was
Speaker 7: and it was just visible football.
Speaker 4: It was horrible from top to bottom. And I feel
Speaker 4: like every every single week it just kind of.
Speaker 8: Went to that.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that was just like a
Speaker 4: scheduling issue. Hopefully they'll get that worked out. But to
Speaker 4: your point, Isaiah, the Cowboys aren't really affected in that
Speaker 4: way because they're not going to flex their Thanksgiving game
Speaker 4: and then they're not going to flex the following Thursday
Speaker 4: Night game that next week. So good to know for
Speaker 4: other teams going forward. I don't think it affects this team.
Speaker 4: What I do want to circle back to, though, is
Speaker 4: the third quarterback roster spot because something that I was
Speaker 4: kind of into yesterday. I didn't know a ton about
Speaker 4: Will Greer. I came and he had already kind of
Speaker 4: been established, and so I didn't really get an opportunity
Speaker 4: to get to know him or know anything about him,
Speaker 4: And so I kind of want to default.
Speaker 8: To you guys here.
Speaker 4: This is a guy who has been in the league
Speaker 4: for a couple of years now. You mentioned Cooper Rush
Speaker 4: just signed the two year extension, so he's likely the
Speaker 4: backup quarterback. But Will greed to me is interesting because
Speaker 4: his college tape and how he played it as a
Speaker 4: collegiate athlete is so much different from his NFL experience.
Speaker 4: He doesn't have a ton and when he did, the
Speaker 4: reps necessarily weren't there.
Speaker 8: But I wonder how happy he.
Speaker 4: Is in the place that he is right now, sitting
Speaker 4: at that third quarterback spot. Is he competitive? Does he
Speaker 4: want that backup quarterback role.
Speaker 8: There's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Things to dive into when it comes to Will Greer,
Speaker 4: So I kind of just want to open this up
Speaker 4: to you guys in terms of value. When you look
Speaker 4: at Will Grear as a quarterback on this roster, where
Speaker 4: do we see his value? You mentioned seeing him compete
Speaker 4: for Cooper Rush at training camp. Is that something that
Speaker 4: we're expected to see again? I mean, like realistically, how
Speaker 4: realistic is it for the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Central that's to hear the former quarterbacks. I think I
Speaker 7: think the window closed for him unfortunately. I think last year,
Speaker 7: last camp was his opportunity, and unfortunately when he got hurt,
Speaker 7: that window dwindled.
Speaker 6: That killed his reps.
Speaker 7: Right, It really came down to the third preseason game
Speaker 7: that he had an opportunity, and that was a quick
Speaker 7: He didn't have the greatest of showings in that sort
Speaker 7: and that short stint, so that was that was I
Speaker 7: want to say it's predetermined, but it was determined relatively
Speaker 7: quickly in that third game that okay, you're now our
Speaker 7: third string. Cooper Rush had the opportunities, he took advantage
Speaker 7: of the opportunities, and now he took care of business,
Speaker 7: went called upon last year as well during the regular season.
Speaker 7: So because of that clap, bravo, and now all of
Speaker 7: a sudden he gets a contract extension. He is now
Speaker 7: solidified as your backup quarterback.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately for will Will Greer, he has some things he
Speaker 5: still needs to work on. Last year was his shot. Okay,
Speaker 5: this preseason he will have another opportunity. But you were
Speaker 5: trying out not only for your third string of your
Speaker 5: current team, but you're trying out for if you were
Speaker 5: to get cut, which I don't foresee that happening now,
Speaker 5: but if you were to get cut for whatever reason,
Speaker 5: you're trying out for the rest of the NFL and
Speaker 5: hopefully try to earn a backup role. He to me,
Speaker 5: is a very good competitor. He also, to me, has
Speaker 5: a lot of work to do as a quarterback. He's
Speaker 5: a gun slinger. I personally don't like his release point.
Speaker 5: I don't like his decision making some of the things
Speaker 5: that I saw during camp last year. It just doesn't
Speaker 5: seem like he values the possession of the ball as
Speaker 5: much as you would like for somebody in that particular
Speaker 5: quarterback role. But I don't know what has happened since then.
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to seeing his development here in this camp.
Speaker 7: I'll say this when it comes to world career, first
Speaker 7: and foremost, as you stated, he needs more development and
Speaker 7: that's obvious, which is why he's quarterback three on an
Speaker 7: NFL team.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 7: I will also say this, he's good enough to play
Speaker 7: at this level, which is why he's quarterback on an
Speaker 7: NFL team. So for him, it's just about trying to
Speaker 7: pry open that window, because the window was wide open
Speaker 7: for him last offseason. I sat there in summer camp,
Speaker 7: summer camp and training camp during the.
Speaker 8: Summer, this.
Speaker 6: One time at band camp.
Speaker 7: So I sat there in training camp in July and Oxnard,
Speaker 7: and I saw that most of the big plays that
Speaker 7: were being made, whether it was you know, the one
Speaker 7: hand to catch from TJ Vasher, whether it was big
Speaker 7: plays being made by Simmi Fojoko. If you after those plays,
Speaker 7: if you looked to see who was under center, more
Speaker 7: often than not, it was Will Greer.
Speaker 6: It wasn't Cooper Rush.
Speaker 7: As far as running with the second team, so Will
Speaker 7: Griar took a massive Kentucky Derby style lead over Cooper Rush.
Speaker 7: But then the injury and the time timing is everything.
Speaker 7: It can work against you or can blow up in
Speaker 7: your face. The timing of his injury was such that
Speaker 7: the Cowboys didn't have time to get more game reps
Speaker 7: in from him post injury before Dak Prescott went down
Speaker 7: with injury, so they had to sit back and make
Speaker 7: a decision, split decision. It came down to Cooper Rush
Speaker 7: and then Cooper Rush took it. You know, he did
Speaker 7: four and one, he earned the spot, but I was
Speaker 7: go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, his opportunity was that Denver practices and the fact
Speaker 5: that he couldn't practice.
Speaker 7: I remember we were calling that practice. The fact that
Speaker 7: he could not practice day. It was a wrap that day.
Speaker 7: It was also very hot that day. Where there's a
Speaker 7: different milter. But I will say he has an opportunity
Speaker 7: still to I will disagree in that It's okay, it's shut,
Speaker 7: but it's not painted shut. Let me put it that way.
Speaker 7: The window can still be open. Because even with a
Speaker 7: two year deal on Cooper Rush, if you look at
Speaker 7: it contractually, the Cowboys are not going to move on
Speaker 7: from Cooper Rush this year, but they have an out
Speaker 7: next year. So Will Greer can come into training camp
Speaker 7: and regain his stride he had last year. At least
Speaker 7: he puts in the Cowboys head. Combined with the new
Speaker 7: rule that basically gives them carte blanche to carry him
Speaker 7: without sacrificing a roster spot, he can.
Speaker 6: Put in their head.
Speaker 7: Well, maybe twenty twenty four is the year of Will
Speaker 7: Gear being QB two because at that point, if you
Speaker 7: want to make that move, you can do so move
Speaker 7: on from Cooper Rush and not take a dead money hit.
Speaker 6: So that's in the conversation as well.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and at the quarterback position, momentum and timing is
Speaker 10: half the battle, especially when you're in the depth of
Speaker 10: a quarterback roster and you know, trying to earn some snaps.
Speaker 10: Especially in will Greer's case here, momentum and timing didn't
Speaker 10: quite work in his favor last year. You know, he
Speaker 10: would have had an opportunity to be a backup quarterback
Speaker 10: or you know, potentially get some snaps whenever Dak went down,
Speaker 10: but you know he wasn't able to be there for that.
Speaker 10: So can't he regain that momentum timing? Absolutely, It's it's
Speaker 10: it's always a possibility. Like you said, the door is
Speaker 10: not painted shut. But you know, we're we're getting the
Speaker 10: we're getting the Sherwin Williams out.
Speaker 4: I just wonder though, you know, and it's hard because
Speaker 4: we haven't had a chance to talk to these guys
Speaker 4: in so long, but I just wonder what his mentality
Speaker 4: is going into this, because you know, the joke, for
Speaker 4: lack of better term, is that being a backup quarterback
Speaker 4: is the best spot on an NFL roster because you
Speaker 4: get paid and you don't have to do as much
Speaker 4: work unless your name is called.
Speaker 8: And so I just wonder from that aspect when it
Speaker 8: comes to.
Speaker 4: Will Greer, you know what his mentality as I know
Speaker 4: you mentioned he's a competitor, but like how competitive is
Speaker 4: he really?
Speaker 8: Is he really being? And I think OTAs this week
Speaker 8: gives us a good opportunity.
Speaker 7: I think he's he's a huge competitor, and his fires
Speaker 7: were stoked as he had to sit on the sideline
Speaker 7: and nurse that injury. And you hate knowing that you
Speaker 7: have the lead to take this particular position from an
Speaker 7: incumbent and then the injury kind of derails it. So
Speaker 7: he's had to sit for the most of the season
Speaker 7: on the inactives and trying to figure things out. He's
Speaker 7: been kind of champing at the bit to get this opportunity,
Speaker 7: and this new rule allows the Cowboys to carry him
Speaker 7: without sacrificing the spot. So he has to look at
Speaker 7: it as just that an opportunity. It might be your
Speaker 7: final one with this organization, but that should add that
Speaker 7: much more fire to his motivation to say, hey, it's
Speaker 7: it's quite literally now, Will never his mindset going into
Speaker 7: OTA's and then obviously following the break going into training
Speaker 7: camp has to be to disrupt the order of the
Speaker 7: back of the ORDA. You understand, as a player, my
Speaker 7: opportunity's probably gone. You understand that that's not to say
Speaker 7: that the door's closed. Okay, but it's a little bit
Speaker 7: of a debo crack in the window. Okay, So it's
Speaker 7: a little bit of crack get your pickernails under their Okay,
Speaker 7: but you understand, Okay, contractually they're committed to this guy.
Speaker 6: I missed my window last year. Okay.
Speaker 5: Now I can either be content, right and just kind
Speaker 5: of chill and just kind of just know that they're
Speaker 5: probably not now there's new rule enables me to remain
Speaker 5: on the roster, or you can say, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm about to make life.
Speaker 6: You know, living hell for for for career, you know.
Speaker 5: And I want to make them have to make a decision,
Speaker 5: and if so much so, where they're going to have
Speaker 5: to figure out when when the season comes, who's number
Speaker 5: two that day? Ye right, maybe it's a maybe it's
Speaker 5: a situational thing based upon your opponent, right, but I
Speaker 5: want them to have to make that decision. That's the
Speaker 5: competitor mindset that he now has to have going into
Speaker 5: this camp. Hey, you're my boy, but I promise you
Speaker 5: if you slip up and have a bad day, oh
Speaker 5: I'm bail, mister post man.
Speaker 7: Which is how he was in training camp last it
Speaker 7: was in July. He was exactly that every single day.
Speaker 7: He and Cooper Russian Dek Prescott. That is a very
Speaker 7: very tight knit quarterback room. But when it's time to
Speaker 7: compete and it's you're competing for snaps and reps and
Speaker 7: contract and et cetera, et cetera, he was as competitive
Speaker 7: as anyone else you would have seen on that field.
Speaker 7: And what I'll say about his skill set is Will
Speaker 7: Greer has to know and I'm sure he does know.
Speaker 7: These are an apple and an orange. When it comes
Speaker 7: to Cooper Rush versus Will Grill, Will Greer is much
Speaker 7: more of a a raw version of Dak Prescott.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 7: He has mobility, He has the big arm, he's the
Speaker 7: gun slinger. He takes risks. Cooper Rush doesn't have a
Speaker 7: ton of mobility. He has some, but not not the same. Right,
Speaker 7: he doesn't have the he does like.
Speaker 8: You know exactly what you're gonna get out of He doesn't.
Speaker 6: Have you ready.
Speaker 7: And the last thing Cooper Rush does is take a risk, right,
Speaker 7: That's the last thing he does. He is a game manager,
Speaker 7: not saying that in a bad way, because you can win,
Speaker 7: you have.
Speaker 6: The absolutely he is. Cooper Rush is smooth jazz and
Speaker 6: little John.
Speaker 7: You just don't you just don't know what you're gonna get,
Speaker 7: you know, just turn up so you say the good
Speaker 7: with the bads to your point. But right now, not
Speaker 7: only he has, the only way he's gonna be able
Speaker 7: to disrupt that room is by getting knit tight with
Speaker 7: his receivers. He the second string and third stream receivers
Speaker 7: have to be his best friends. They got to be
Speaker 7: playing Maden at his house, right, you know, they have
Speaker 7: to be going to the moves. They got to be
Speaker 7: going bowling, They got to be playing putt putt golf.
Speaker 7: They gotta be doing everything together.
Speaker 5: Those have to be his dogs because not only starting
Speaker 5: here in OTAs, all the way through training camp, those
Speaker 5: are gonna be the guys he's taking reps with.
Speaker 6: And then if you're blessing, you're absolutely killing it.
Speaker 7: Guess what, then you get to throw the CD right,
Speaker 7: then you get that through that you know what you're saying,
Speaker 7: then you get to throw that, you get to throw
Speaker 7: to the dog on boomerang.
Speaker 6: You know all these guys, you got to work your
Speaker 6: way up to it.
Speaker 7: So he needs to build this community and so that
Speaker 7: those guys have a trust factor with him. And I
Speaker 7: think we saw that last camp. We saw that last
Speaker 7: camp where the guys were had a little bit more
Speaker 7: juice when Will was under center and they wanted to
Speaker 7: make the big play when Will was under centre, and
Speaker 7: SEMMI that connection absolutely.
Speaker 5: So that's the only way that I can see him
Speaker 5: overshadowing what Cooper Rush is. And now in order to
Speaker 5: do that, you're gonna those amazing players are gonna have
Speaker 5: to be absolutely amazing.
Speaker 7: Your lolls cannot be. You can't make bad decision makers, exactly.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, good conversation there. Obviously ota started yesterday.
Speaker 4: We're going to get into that on the other side
Speaker 4: of this break. Let's go ahead and take it here
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Speaker 4: about this, y'all. Spanish soccer giants Real Madrid and FC
Speaker 4: Barcelona meet in Texas.
Speaker 8: Hey for the first time ever.
Speaker 4: At at and T Stadium as a leg of the
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three Soccer Champions Tour. Don't miss your chance
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Speaker 4: T Stadium on July twenty ninth to twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 4: and T Stadium. I am honestly devastated that I have
Speaker 4: to miss that because that will be.
Speaker 8: At training camp. You will, yeah, we'll be it.
Speaker 6: Well, we'll be watching it. We'll be watching and I will,
Speaker 6: so y'all.
Speaker 8: Don't mind if I dib out for a day to
Speaker 8: come to that.
Speaker 6: Because the pj's a That's an.
Speaker 8: Incredible soccer matchup. I I know.
Speaker 4: I've seen Barcelona play once. It was when I was
Speaker 4: in Miami and they played Inner Miami, and it was
Speaker 4: when they first signed Robert Lewandowski, who's like one of
Speaker 4: the best strikers in the world. So it was like
Speaker 4: our first opportunity to see him in a Barcelona jersey and.
Speaker 8: They wrecked Inner Miami. But it was cool to see
Speaker 8: everybody there.
Speaker 7: That's pretty level, pretty big deal because levels in soccer, right, No,
Speaker 7: I know, that's the hard that is the hardest sport
Speaker 7: to stand out in, hands down.
Speaker 8: And what's difficult.
Speaker 4: What's difficult about it too is especially when you get
Speaker 4: to like the Premier League, La Liga, the Italian League,
Speaker 4: all of these leagues, you have these players who are
Speaker 4: so solidified in their spots. There's not really any rotation,
Speaker 4: so kind of like Will Greer, like, you know, you
Speaker 4: get your opportunities and they disappeared. Really, your only opportunities
Speaker 4: you get in soccer is garbage time minutes, so you're
Speaker 4: talking the last ten minutes of a game, plus stoppage time, injury,
Speaker 4: so maybe you come in after an injury.
Speaker 8: And with soccer it's so you know.
Speaker 4: Like results driven that if you get in as a
Speaker 4: sub and you do nothing, like that's it.
Speaker 6: You just know the guy.
Speaker 8: That's it, cold world, you don't make the fifty. Let
Speaker 8: me get off my soccer soapboxes. I could be here
Speaker 8: all day.
Speaker 4: Let's transition into organized team activities. They started yesterday OTAs
Speaker 4: a lot of new faces in the building, mixing with
Speaker 4: those veterans who are finally coming back and you know,
Speaker 4: getting back.
Speaker 8: Into the groove of things.
Speaker 4: It was nice to see the rookies kind of get
Speaker 4: their feet wet I mentioned this last week. It's so
Speaker 4: fun just to see them, you know, like walk around
Speaker 4: the building with their eyes open and they just don't
Speaker 4: know where to go are they're trying to find their
Speaker 4: meeting or the lunch table. But that kind of goes
Speaker 4: away this week. Now they're into big boy football. They're
Speaker 4: competing with the guys who are their veterans, their superiors.
Speaker 8: What are some things that we're looking for out of
Speaker 8: this week.
Speaker 4: I know we will get a chance to talk with
Speaker 4: them on Thursday at OTAs at the media availability, but
Speaker 4: just this week, what are some things that we're looking
Speaker 4: for in this roster in terms of developing for training camp?
Speaker 6: For me?
Speaker 7: And I'll take this away from the rookies and I'll
Speaker 7: go with the obvious and the not so obvious. Obviously,
Speaker 7: I'm ready to see Mazzie Smith.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 7: Now keep in mind, I mean there will be some
Speaker 7: seven on sevens now on nine eleven on elevens, but
Speaker 7: no contact is allowed, ladies and gentlemen, So keep that
Speaker 7: in mind. So you're not gonna We're not going to
Speaker 7: see Mozzi Smith out there trying to bulldoze through anyone.
Speaker 7: But I'm interested to see how quickly he can refine
Speaker 7: his already stellar technique to take the next step at
Speaker 7: the NFL. I'm looking to see his interactions with some
Speaker 7: of these veterans. I'm looking to see other than OsO
Speaker 7: O'diggy Zoo and Michael Parsons and Jonathan Hankins, you know who,
Speaker 7: he's building instant relationships in chemistry with across that defensive
Speaker 7: line and in the linebacker course, So I'm looking.
Speaker 6: For that as well.
Speaker 7: We spoke with Mazzi on minute one day one, and
Speaker 7: the entirety of that day he just kept displying, displaying
Speaker 7: his hunger to get on the field. Yeah, now he's
Speaker 7: going to be on the field with the with the veterans,
Speaker 7: so let's see how that goes.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I loved how anytime you asked Mozzi, and even
Speaker 4: this was when we got to talk to him at
Speaker 4: rookie camp, anytime you asked him like how good does
Speaker 4: it feel to be here, every single time his response
Speaker 4: was I'm not getting too excited.
Speaker 8: I'm just ready to go. Every time.
Speaker 4: There was never any even when we were given the
Speaker 4: tour around the building, he was as even keel as
Speaker 4: he could have possibly been.
Speaker 8: He was excited. He's like, Nah, I'm just I'm just
Speaker 8: ready to play ball, Like that's it.
Speaker 6: Best, sinister Grin.
Speaker 8: That to me is what a competitor looks like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's my obvious because you know, first round
Speaker 7: pick a lot comes with that, and everybody's gonna have
Speaker 7: all odds on him. But then my not so obvious
Speaker 7: is I'm so intrigued. But I mean I'm intrigued by
Speaker 7: several of these rookies assu him. You know Villiami, for example,
Speaker 7: A huge fan of Williami's motor and his his aptitude
Speaker 7: for football violence. But Eric Scott I can't shake the
Speaker 7: the way Will McClay lights up when talking about this
Speaker 7: young man to the point where, yes, I've seen the
Speaker 7: film and I've seen the good and the bad, and
Speaker 7: the good is he can take the ball away. You
Speaker 7: talk about his two pick sixes in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7: He has potential, he has the ceiling, but then he
Speaker 7: also needs development. He's raw as well, and I want
Speaker 7: to see how quickly he can develop under guys like
Speaker 7: Al Harrison obviously Dan Quinn.
Speaker 6: But I'm interested to.
Speaker 7: See what Will mccley, What McClay saw through Will mcclay's
Speaker 7: eyes that sat back that had him sit back and say, Jerry,
Speaker 7: we need to trade a twenty twenty four pick to
Speaker 7: move up to one seventy eight for this kid. So
Speaker 7: I know he's much faster than that four seven to
Speaker 7: two on a tweet squad. He's he has the prototypical
Speaker 7: length as far as what Dan Quinn likes to see
Speaker 7: in defensive backs. But something about Eric Scott just kind
Speaker 7: of it makes me intrigued enough to say, Hey, when
Speaker 7: I'm out there looking at the Deuce Vongs on offense,
Speaker 7: when I'm out there looking at the first round pick
Speaker 7: Mazzie Smith on defense, I'm also trying to figure out
Speaker 7: where Eric Scott is because I'm also interested to see
Speaker 7: how he can try to carve his way into a
Speaker 7: defensive back rotation that's already seemingly locked up in the
Speaker 7: top four spots.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so what I'm looking for for Otia specifically is
Speaker 10: interior offensive line. Yeah, who's getting those reps, who's coming in,
Speaker 10: who's the coaching staff?
Speaker 6: Langer trust.
Speaker 10: Last week, Stephen Jones, we were able to talk to
Speaker 10: him at an availability and he really talked up Chumulidoga,
Speaker 10: So you know, that's a guy I want to see
Speaker 10: out there for the first time, and you know, see.
Speaker 6: How he's going people I forgotten people.
Speaker 10: He mentioned probably three or four times, so uh, you know,
Speaker 10: that's definitely something to look out for. And then also
Speaker 10: there's a narrative going around that Stefan Gilmour isn't he's washed.
Speaker 8: Right, that's a narrative since they signed him.
Speaker 10: Exactly exactly, so if you sign Yeah, they.
Speaker 4: Said the same thing about t Y Hilton when they
Speaker 4: added Ye Linton, and he proved his value almost immediately.
Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 10: But if Stefan Gilmore can even bring eighty five percent
Speaker 10: of what his his peak has been or even ninety whatever,
Speaker 10: we're looking at a defense that can take away the
Speaker 10: boundary and work completely between the hashes.
Speaker 6: And you know that's that's.
Speaker 10: That's what you want if your dan Quinn, because you've
Speaker 10: got guys in the draft that can operate between the between.
Speaker 7: The hashes, funnel him into the moon and l V
Speaker 7: and a little bit of overshown. That's rom like, don
Speaker 7: I'm looking at the chemistry.
Speaker 6: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's only so much you're going to see
Speaker 5: in Ota, So I mean I don't want to temper.
Speaker 6: Because it's install right, Yeah, it's installed.
Speaker 5: So you're looking for how fast can these rookies really
Speaker 5: digest information and then apply it, and then what is
Speaker 5: their comfort level within that right, So whether that be
Speaker 5: at the second level with overshowing it on defense, or
Speaker 5: whether that be at the receiver position, right, how are
Speaker 5: these guys taking information that they're receiving and then obviously
Speaker 5: being able to apply it with the level of comfort
Speaker 5: that they can start applying their confidence as players, There's
Speaker 5: a difference between being a confident player and being a
Speaker 5: confident player within a system.
Speaker 6: And whenever there.
Speaker 5: Is that divisive line that's separating those two, you don't
Speaker 5: get the player that you expect. So the faster that
Speaker 5: they can, they can come in and learn and get
Speaker 5: adapted to their environment and feel comfortable within their system.
Speaker 6: Right, learn the offense, learn the defense.
Speaker 7: Then I can start playing and using my assets as
Speaker 7: the player that I you guys know me to be
Speaker 7: on film and you I'll start showing that on the field.
Speaker 7: But until those two things mesh, I'm gonna be a
Speaker 7: shadow of who you guys think I'm going to be.
Speaker 7: But there's there's one more thing, and this is I'll
Speaker 7: segue this too. A conversation that you and I had
Speaker 7: offline yesterday, duce Vaughan, this is going to be as
Speaker 7: they're starting to do some installs, this is going to
Speaker 7: be the first real look we get at what might
Speaker 7: hint at duce Vaughn's role on special teams. Because speaking
Speaker 7: of narratives, there is a narrative out there outside of
Speaker 7: the building that says, oh, well, duce is going to
Speaker 7: come in and challenge Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 6: For one or both of the returns.
Speaker 8: I want two part returners, just saying to me, I'm people,
Speaker 8: You're people.
Speaker 6: I'm that guy that's don't me to be Bones Fossil.
Speaker 8: I have two returners back now.
Speaker 7: But in speaking, but if you listen to what Bones
Speaker 7: is saying, at least right now as we have this conversation,
Speaker 7: that's not how Bones is looking at duce Von. So
Speaker 7: he's looking at duce Van as potentially a personal protector,
Speaker 7: like these are Bones Fossils words right, So to me,
Speaker 7: number one, first and foremost, Cavante Turpin has not only
Speaker 7: not done anything to lose the job, He's coming off
Speaker 7: of a Pro Bowl season as a rookie in which
Speaker 7: he entered this season and training camp having not had
Speaker 7: a break from a usf USFL MVP season. So you
Speaker 7: have to put all of that contextually and say this
Speaker 7: guy didn't have didn't take a breather, and he was
Speaker 7: still a pro bowler. You don't then come into the
Speaker 7: next season and say, oh, well, you know we drafted
Speaker 7: this rookie, so now it's a comp It's not a
Speaker 7: competition at returner, now, can it be? Yes, Deuce can
Speaker 7: make it one if Duke gets out there beginning in
Speaker 7: OTAs and then mini camp and training camp, and because
Speaker 7: he's going to get some reps as a returner, hunt
Speaker 7: and kick, so Fossil can kind of gauge it because
Speaker 7: at worst you have him as insurance back there.
Speaker 6: But outright it's not a competition.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And there's not as much context I think as
Speaker 10: some people may believe when it comes to Deuce Funn
Speaker 10: seven kick returns for one hundred and forty five yards
Speaker 10: as a freshman Kansas State.
Speaker 6: And that's it science, you know, not a ton of contexts.
Speaker 10: That being said, his trades, his mobility, you can throw
Speaker 10: him back there. He was getting some work in rookie
Speaker 10: mini camp, like you said, is he gonna get some reps?
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 10: But Cavante Turpin is coming off a USFL MVP and
Speaker 10: a Pro Bowl appearance.
Speaker 8: Let me ask you, let me ask, And this is
Speaker 8: not like a dig at Cavante.
Speaker 4: I think that he brings this very special, you know,
Speaker 4: skill set to this roster. In terms of versatility, That's
Speaker 4: been the conversation since the end of last year, beginning
Speaker 4: even in the beginning of the season. This team's identity
Speaker 4: has been versatility. What can I get out of you
Speaker 4: and you and how can I mix this around and
Speaker 4: do that? So in terms of versatility, what does Cavante
Speaker 4: Turpin bring you? And again I'm not dogging him. I
Speaker 4: think he's a fantastic returner. You could feel the energy
Speaker 4: every single time there was a kick or a punt
Speaker 4: at at and T Stadium last year, and I imagine
Speaker 4: it was the same.
Speaker 8: On the road, the press box and so yeah, and
Speaker 8: so I.
Speaker 4: Just think in terms of what they can offer Deuce
Speaker 4: Vaughn and I get it, like he's small, he's a rookie.
Speaker 4: We have a lot of expectations, We're putting a lot
Speaker 4: of pressure on him.
Speaker 8: But when you just look at it on paper.
Speaker 4: Like they were not allowing Cavante to be a part
Speaker 4: of the offer. Last year, for whatever their reason was,
Speaker 4: he was not involved in the offense in terms of
Speaker 4: getting in on snaps, catching passes. The one time we
Speaker 4: really got to see him was when he got lit
Speaker 4: up in the forty nine Ers game in the last
Speaker 4: play of that game. So he's not involved in the offense.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that change is going into this year.
Speaker 4: But then when you look at what Deuce Vaughan can offer.
Speaker 4: He can return, he can do punts. I imagine he's
Speaker 4: getting several reps at that. He can catch it out
Speaker 4: of the backfield.
Speaker 8: He's fast, he's a strong runner.
Speaker 6: I just see what you're doing there. I see what
Speaker 6: you're doing, pick what you're putting. I'm picking up what
Speaker 6: you're putting in.
Speaker 5: I think they both have equally equally have the same versatility.
Speaker 5: The difference is last year they asked one thing.
Speaker 6: Of turbine corrects.
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, that's all he had to worry about.
Speaker 5: Come in and be the dynamic returner that we need
Speaker 5: you to be. We don't need you to play receiver.
Speaker 5: We need a return man and you better be electrifying.
Speaker 7: And I was blessed to be able to call that
Speaker 7: game where he went back to back right. So that
Speaker 7: was absolutely amazing. That's all he had to do, That's
Speaker 7: not all he could do. Right, So what you're demanded
Speaker 7: to do and what you're capable of doing two separate things. Right,
Speaker 7: he checked the box that they asked him to check.
Speaker 7: Now he has a full off season, now he has
Speaker 7: that spot solidified.
Speaker 8: But did you see him, absolutely.
Speaker 5: Because when we saw him last year and practicing against
Speaker 5: the Chargers, he was lighting him up in practice, absolutely
Speaker 5: lighting them up every time we turn around.
Speaker 6: Big play, big play, big play.
Speaker 7: And that was just in a little bit of a
Speaker 7: cup size that they gave him in terms of responsibilities
Speaker 7: on offense.
Speaker 5: So, now that you have a full off season, he
Speaker 5: doesn't have the the butterflies, he doesn't have those nerves
Speaker 5: running trying to figure out am I going to make
Speaker 5: the roster? There's so much stress with that. Oh my gosh, Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's so much stress with that. The fact that he
Speaker 5: was able to perform under that stress, let you know
Speaker 5: who he is and what he's capable of. That box
Speaker 5: is now checked. He could put that behind him. Now
Speaker 5: I don't have to worry about do I have a
Speaker 5: roster spot? Now my concern is how can I be
Speaker 5: a better receiver so that I could be utilized more
Speaker 5: right and I can bring more value.
Speaker 6: That's his focus. Now.
Speaker 7: Last year his focus was simply just making a dog
Speaker 7: on roster. He was happy to have an invite the camp. Listen,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna answer it this way, piggybacking off of what
Speaker 7: Isaiah is saying. The versatility is absolutely there with Cavante
Speaker 7: Turpin as much as it is with Douce Valm. It
Speaker 7: goes to, like Isaiah said, what you're being asked to do,
Speaker 7: what you're not being asked to do. So I think
Speaker 7: there are two reasons that the Cowboys scaled back and
Speaker 7: didn't allow Cavante Turpin to take many offensive reps. Number One,
Speaker 7: he was much too valuable as a returner, and they
Speaker 7: did not have an insurance policy at returner. So if
Speaker 7: you lose Cavante Turpin on inside slant from the and
Speaker 7: the seeds your backup and now CD being your number
Speaker 7: one wide receiver, the domino effect is just tragic.
Speaker 6: So that's one.
Speaker 7: Number Two, we talk about him not having a break
Speaker 7: between his MVP USFL season and joining Cowboys in training camp.
Speaker 7: So do you really want to run him into the
Speaker 7: ground like that, knowing you have a seventeen game season
Speaker 7: plus hopefully a playoff run, you have to it's load
Speaker 7: management without obviously admitting.
Speaker 6: In his load management. But here's one more thing I'll say.
Speaker 7: Standing there on the sideline day to day in training
Speaker 7: camp in Knox Snart last summer, I saw Cavante turping
Speaker 7: on offense and he's got it, okay. I saw him
Speaker 7: line up in the slot and go with the slant
Speaker 7: and come with the outs.
Speaker 6: I also saw.
Speaker 7: Him go to the boundary and take the top off
Speaker 7: on more than one occasion and come down with come
Speaker 7: down with catches that technically should only be acquired by
Speaker 7: the bigger guys, the guys with the bigger catch radius.
Speaker 6: Here's the small guy climbing the ladder.
Speaker 7: He was making the plays. So I saw it in
Speaker 7: real time. I saw the receipts, so I know what
Speaker 7: he can do. So that's why, over the course of
Speaker 7: the season when we were asking why not get him
Speaker 7: more involved? From my standpoint, it's because I saw what
Speaker 7: he can do. So going into this season full off season,
Speaker 7: he had a break, he gets to come back refreshed.
Speaker 6: I expect to see more of him on offense.
Speaker 7: Also because duce Vaughan is an insurance policy if Cavante
Speaker 7: is injured, and.
Speaker 10: From an offensive standpoint, Cavante's herpin. When he was most
Speaker 10: dangerous at TCU, it was coming out of the backfield
Speaker 10: and doing jet sweeps and whether it was lining up
Speaker 10: or motioning in, and he was super, super dangerous. I
Speaker 10: encourage everybody to go look back at that TCU tape.
Speaker 10: But I think your latter point was the most important.
Speaker 10: The load management. You know, you don't want your your
Speaker 10: Pro Bowl returner playing offense every down. So I think
Speaker 10: going into training camp, seeing how many reps he gets,
Speaker 10: and especially going into preseason where when he comes into
Speaker 10: the game from an offensive standpoint, that's going to be
Speaker 10: really important. But like the discussions we've had on here
Speaker 10: in the past, the wide receiver four conversation is going
Speaker 10: to be very interesting.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 4: I guess that's where my mentality is like going into
Speaker 4: Like you said, I get the load management, and I'm
Speaker 4: not saying he's not capable of doing those things. He's
Speaker 4: perfectly capable. He's MVP for a reason, regardless of the league.
Speaker 8: I just worry it's a crowded wide receiver room.
Speaker 4: I worry that, you know, maybe that is his role
Speaker 4: where he stays at being a returner, and that's what
Speaker 4: he's really good out for the entirety of his career.
Speaker 4: So definitely something to pay attention to for OTAs we
Speaker 4: are running tight on time, so let's go ahead and
Speaker 4: take our second and final break here and talking cow boys.
Speaker 8: We'll come back and.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about this roster a little bit more. We'll
Speaker 4: tie some loose ends and send the show on the road.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely so.
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Speaker 6: But it is is happening. So what's that smell? Is
Speaker 6: that that? Oh, that's trash. That's right, trash, trash. We
Speaker 6: just finished talking about. This is how I feel so bad.
Speaker 7: We just spoken the second segment about Cavante Turpin induced
Speaker 7: Voln's potential value as returners. Here comes the NFL completely
Speaker 7: just kneecapping that whole conversation, not only for Terping, but
Speaker 7: just returners around the league. Because you're basically you're rewarding
Speaker 7: fair catches, you're rewarding you know, touchbacks because you're doing
Speaker 7: all you can to incrementally and now you're picking up
Speaker 7: the pace, but incrementally, just abolish kick returns. Ultimately, that's
Speaker 7: what the NFL is leading towards abolishing kick returns. So now,
Speaker 7: if I'm Kavante Turpin, where are my offensive reps? Give
Speaker 7: me my offensive because I'm clearly not going to be
Speaker 7: able to see as much action on special team, So
Speaker 7: give me my give me my shots a receiver.
Speaker 10: And I think something that's interesting that's happened in the
Speaker 10: college game with this role, as if you wave the
Speaker 10: fair catch and let's say you're on the two yard
Speaker 10: line and you muffet and pick it up at the three,
Speaker 10: you're still down at the three, you can advance it
Speaker 10: and you have to start your offensive drive at the
Speaker 10: three yard line. So that's gonna come into play at
Speaker 10: some point this season with some team, and that's gonna
Speaker 10: be that's gonna be the one that makes everybody lose
Speaker 10: their minds.
Speaker 5: So as now, I mean, the percentages of an actual
Speaker 5: kickoff return are so low now, right, Like, what's the point?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like seriously, I really, what's the point unless you want
Speaker 5: to just squib kicking everything, because that's what it's going
Speaker 5: to turn into. Yeah, if you want somebody to actually
Speaker 5: return the ball, you're gonna.
Speaker 6: Have to squib it.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering as well, if it has anything to do
Speaker 4: and this is just pure speculation, something that just came
Speaker 4: to my head. I'm wondering if it has anything to
Speaker 4: do with injuries. Possibly, I don't know, if being able
Speaker 4: to have a little bit more space, a little bit
Speaker 4: more time to make decisions, and you're rewarded for that behavior, right,
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to find one redeeming quality.
Speaker 7: In turn, they're trying to continue to claim it's based
Speaker 7: upon player safety. They're going to continue to claim that
Speaker 7: the numbers show that kickoff return is the highest risk
Speaker 7: of all plays on the field over the course of
Speaker 7: a football game. And that's why they've instituted this rule,
Speaker 7: and then the rule prior they're restructuring the whole return
Speaker 7: game because they basically, let's just be honest, they want
Speaker 7: to abolish the return game as a whole all they
Speaker 7: if they written listen, I don't want to get into
Speaker 7: that because because there's actual sciences, because I'm a returner, right,
Speaker 7: so I'm speaking from the person who would actually get
Speaker 7: destroyed on that play. Okay, when they took away the wedge,
Speaker 7: that took away the high probability of a concussion.
Speaker 6: If they really want to take away.
Speaker 5: Another layer deeper, okay, take away crackbacks, take away blindside
Speaker 5: crackbacks on kickoff. Right, the kickoff return team should not
Speaker 5: be allowed to crack back. If you really want to
Speaker 5: lower concussions, don't take away the return. Don't take away
Speaker 5: the return and don't go to the freaking X fail
Speaker 5: on their whole little way to somebody catch. That's that's
Speaker 5: I don't like that either.
Speaker 7: So just get rid of the wedge, which they already did.
Speaker 7: Get rid of the crackbacks. Now where is the injury
Speaker 7: in terms of head?
Speaker 5: I'm running back as a frontline, as a frontline guy
Speaker 5: on kickoff return, I am turning the balls kick, I'm
Speaker 5: opening up, I'm springting back twenty twenty five yards. I'm
Speaker 5: settling my feet, and then I'm coming in. I'm blocking
Speaker 5: you with my hands. Dude, where is the head trauma?
Speaker 7: Just neutered one of the most electron fine types of
Speaker 7: plays in the NFL, the kick return you, that's where.
Speaker 6: We are, squid. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Now, they, like Nick said, they claim that it's a
Speaker 7: one year trial. I don't buy that because I understand
Speaker 7: the psychology of trying to reduce the immediate outrage by saying, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 7: well only we're.
Speaker 6: Just trying it out. This is money on the table.
Speaker 10: This is going to stick, and then on a Friday
Speaker 10: night next year they're just going to go ahead, approved.
Speaker 6: Yeah, money on the table. This is this is going
Speaker 6: to stick. The draft.
Speaker 10: Hey, this is approved by the way, all right, so
Speaker 10: next pick.
Speaker 4: Just slide it in there. Yeah yeah, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 4: The season will definitely look a little bit different in
Speaker 4: terms of some of these new rules.
Speaker 8: So good insight from you guys. That's gonna do it.
Speaker 4: Though, for our time here on Talking Cowboys, thanks so
Speaker 4: much for letting me talk with you guys on these
Speaker 4: lovely talking Tuesday. It's been such a good time. Kyle
Speaker 4: will be back next week. I will be back on
Speaker 4: Girls Talk Boys Talk next week, so we will be
Speaker 4: back into our way of life, and then.
Speaker 8: Training camp will be here. Nicorn, we know it.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 8: Sorry, I've never been invited on you.
Speaker 4: Well, that'll do it for Talking Cowboys.
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