WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: The QB3 Guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>This He's Talking Cowboys straining live from the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>World Course.

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<v Speaker 2>At the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 3>Dot Tinsondown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Harris and Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, welcome into another edition of Talking Cowboys featuring myself,

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<v Speaker 4>Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, and Patrick Nosey Walker. I'm Hailey

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<v Speaker 4>Sutton in for Kyle Yeomans one final time as he

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<v Speaker 4>wraps up his honeymoon celebration.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobo, we got a boogie celebration, sing around the last

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<v Speaker 5>Man from Seattle, and I never even had the money

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<v Speaker 5>to go to the Last so I'll try.

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<v Speaker 6>What kind of money is this boy make around here?

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<v Speaker 7>I know I need picks, Kyle, I know you're listening.

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<v Speaker 7>I need picks. I need videos because I've not yet

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<v Speaker 7>had the pleasure to go to Alaska, but I know

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<v Speaker 7>for a fact that it's one of the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 7>places on earth, So congratulations on that. But I need

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<v Speaker 7>I need to live vicariously through him like I did

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<v Speaker 7>you through you in Mexico with the whales and yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you guys have.

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<v Speaker 6>Nice vacation.

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<v Speaker 8>Mexico.

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<v Speaker 6>I drive to the Star from my vacation. Vacation, I

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<v Speaker 6>getting nick.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, yea, yeah exactly, just come back. No trip.

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<v Speaker 8>Weren't you just in Seattle?

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<v Speaker 2>Like for.

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<v Speaker 5>I wish, I wish I got to go somewhere. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't get to go anywhere. You see my summer, I

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<v Speaker 5>try to look forward. This would be the only week

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<v Speaker 5>that my family and I can actually travel anywhere, Like.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the only one week that we have because

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<v Speaker 6>of the track. My kids are in.

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<v Speaker 7>Track, so one of the best sports. Yeah, every just

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<v Speaker 7>considered your whole summer.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but it's so oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I used to hate running summer track. It was

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<v Speaker 4>like the bane of my existence.

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<v Speaker 8>But anyways, we move on. What did I run? What

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<v Speaker 8>do you think I ran?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm not going to guess. It's like guessing somebody's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't guess what a vincedbody.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a sprinter, So I ran the one, the two,

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<v Speaker 4>the eight hundred. That's not a sprint, I know, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I was going to say. It wasn't my choice.

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<v Speaker 4>My coach made me run the eight hundred.

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<v Speaker 6>She said, she ran the one, so yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Ran the one.

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<v Speaker 6>The two eight hundred is a sprint for some people,

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<v Speaker 6>which I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 4>Their loans are because I played soccer, and so it

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<v Speaker 4>was a good.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then actually I was a very good long jumper

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<v Speaker 4>triple jumper, so yeah, I actually real quick.

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<v Speaker 8>Flex.

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<v Speaker 4>I learned how to triple jump the day of my

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<v Speaker 4>first ever track meet in the eighth grade, and I

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<v Speaker 4>never lost flat this morning, guys, a.

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<v Speaker 6>Little bit of a flex I like it. I like

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<v Speaker 6>it a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get into some cowboys conversations today. A

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<v Speaker 4>lot of news how happening around the league. But the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest that we actually discussed yesterday at lunch Patrick is

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<v Speaker 4>the new quarterback rule that has been enlisted for the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL in this upcoming season. I'm going to let you

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<v Speaker 4>dive into the details of it, but real quick, just

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<v Speaker 4>here's the skinny on what that looks like. So essentially,

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL is allowing rosters to add a third quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>onto their game day roster as long.

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<v Speaker 8>As that player is on the fifty three.

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<v Speaker 4>And the best part about it is it doesn't affect

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<v Speaker 4>your inactives. It doesn't affect your roster cap in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of a fifty three man roster of forty five man

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<v Speaker 4>game day roster. There are some caveats to it that

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<v Speaker 4>third quarterback cannot play in a game until the first

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<v Speaker 4>and second string quarterbacks have gone out, but obviously a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of flexibility in terms of what teams can do

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<v Speaker 4>with that role.

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<v Speaker 8>Specifically the Cowboys who have three quarterbacks on their roster

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<v Speaker 8>this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick kind of just dive into what that looks like

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<v Speaker 4>for this team and what it's going to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>look like.

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<v Speaker 8>For the NFL.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, first of all, that sound you hear is Will

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<v Speaker 7>Grier smiling hear to hear, because this rule basically guarantees that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, assuming he remains the third quarterback on the team,

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<v Speaker 7>it basically guarantees he gets to suit up every single week. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>as you said, Haley, he doesn't get to play unless

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<v Speaker 7>both QB one Dak Prescott and Cooper Rosh QB two

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<v Speaker 7>are injured in that particular game, and then he gets

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<v Speaker 7>to go in. But once they're medically cleared, which is

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<v Speaker 7>another caveat, once they're medically cleared, if they're medically cleared

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<v Speaker 7>to return to that game, he has to come back

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<v Speaker 7>out of the game.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's kind of the dance there.

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<v Speaker 7>But the beauty of it is for the Cowboys is

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<v Speaker 7>they will never be in a situation like we saw

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<v Speaker 7>the forty nine ers in in the NFC Championship against

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<v Speaker 7>the Philadelphia Eagles when Christian McCaffrey was taken warm up

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<v Speaker 7>reps possibly about to go in at QB.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's what that rule is.

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<v Speaker 7>We can kind of dub it the Christian McCaffrey room, right,

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<v Speaker 7>But you gotta love it because it also means that

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<v Speaker 7>the Cowboys neither you know, know, any of the other

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<v Speaker 7>thirty one teams have to burn a roster spot. It's

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<v Speaker 7>more or less a roster exemption specific for QB three

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<v Speaker 7>on a week to week basis. So like you said, Haley,

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<v Speaker 7>number one is they have to make the active fifty

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<v Speaker 7>three man roster and final cutdowns. You cannot stash the

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<v Speaker 7>QB on the practice squad because anyone that's elevated in

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<v Speaker 7>any given week is not eligible to be designated as

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<v Speaker 7>your emergency QB, and they have to make that designation

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<v Speaker 7>the same time they make the inactives known, which is

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<v Speaker 7>ninety minutes, no later than ninety minutes probably to kickoff.

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<v Speaker 7>So those are the key things. But for Will Greer,

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<v Speaker 7>who is still going to compete with Cooper Rush. I

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<v Speaker 7>know Cooper Rush's resigning strongly implies that he's going to

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<v Speaker 7>be the QB two. But we're not going to sit

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<v Speaker 7>here and say there's not going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>A battle there.

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<v Speaker 7>Will Greer arguably took the lead in that battle last

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<v Speaker 7>summer before he suffered the growing injury. I look forward

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<v Speaker 7>to that battle happening again in training camp in July.

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<v Speaker 7>But I mean, it's a fantastic rule all around. Can't

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<v Speaker 7>say the same about the other rule that was approved yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was tossing the Carris for that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>but I guess you get a win, but you got

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<v Speaker 7>to take a loss as well if you're an NFL fan,

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<v Speaker 7>And so the loss is the Thursday night flexs rule.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll let Harris dive in that one. Yeah, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 10>At the owner's meetings yesterday, the NFL also approved Thursday

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<v Speaker 10>night football flex scheduling, which basically allows the NFL twenty

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<v Speaker 10>eight days before so you have to have a twenty

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<v Speaker 10>eight day notice four weeks to move a Thursday night

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<v Speaker 10>football game to Sunday and then move a Sunday afternoon

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<v Speaker 10>game to Thursday night. There's a lot of different stipulations

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<v Speaker 10>that they would have to meet. It can only be

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<v Speaker 10>in week thirteen through seventeen because there's not a Thursday

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<v Speaker 10>night football game in week eighteen. A team can't be

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<v Speaker 10>on the road two times on a Thursday night game,

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<v Speaker 10>and they still can only have two Thursday night games.

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<v Speaker 10>So it's a slim chance that anything even happens with

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<v Speaker 10>the flex Thursday night football scheduling. But let's say you

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<v Speaker 10>are a Jets fan and y'all are playing in Denver

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<v Speaker 10>in week seventeen, and you have just always wanted to

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<v Speaker 10>go to Mile High on a Thursday night and you

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<v Speaker 10>find out twenty eight days before that it's going to

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<v Speaker 10>be Sunday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to change all of.

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<v Speaker 10>Your scheduling, you got to move your flights around, movie

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<v Speaker 10>tickets around. And that's why eight voters voted against it.

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<v Speaker 10>The Cowboys did vote for it. Twenty four to eight

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<v Speaker 10>was the final count, and twenty four is the minimum

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<v Speaker 10>allowed to pass a rule, and it passed barely. But

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<v Speaker 10>it's there's some fans that are very upset about it.

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<v Speaker 10>Giants owner is very upset about it. It looks like

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<v Speaker 10>Isaiah stand back to my right is upset about it

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<v Speaker 10>here leg well as well.

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<v Speaker 7>It's unfortunate for the fame, say with you to me,

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<v Speaker 7>and to be honest with you, that that aspect really

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't bother me that much. The whole Thursday night flex thing,

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't affect Dallas, right, Dallas already has two Thursday

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<v Speaker 7>night game scheduled.

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<v Speaker 6>Correct, So we got obviously is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 8>Well they do. It's not Thursday night Thursday, okay, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So yeah, I mean it is whatever to me

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<v Speaker 5>as a player, you don't like Thursday night games.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's just call it how it is.

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<v Speaker 5>You hate Thursday night games because your body literally just

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<v Speaker 5>recovered the day before from the previous week. So after

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<v Speaker 5>the player's perspective, it absolutely sucks. But let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 5>this league is not forward facing in terms of taking

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<v Speaker 5>care of the players.

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<v Speaker 6>This is about the money in the pockets of the owner.

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<v Speaker 5>So knowing that that's the fact, you shrugg your shoulder

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<v Speaker 5>and you say, okay, there's just another thing that helps

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<v Speaker 5>them put more money in their pocket. The third quarterback thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking forward to that and how coaches and organizations

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<v Speaker 5>work around that rule. Because now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, oh my knee hurts. Okay, come on in

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<v Speaker 5>here for this next quarter real quick.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like you're hinting at some Bill BELICHICKI is.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying, there's always a workaround. Okay, there's always

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<v Speaker 5>a work around. So I am looking more forward to

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<v Speaker 5>that third quarterback and how organization is determined.

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<v Speaker 6>To go forward with that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know how it's going to go. So my gosh,

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<v Speaker 5>I sprained my big topic. Let me go get it

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<v Speaker 5>scanned real quick, right, And so it starts.

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<v Speaker 7>Open, the backup quarterback starts oerver five and then suddenly

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<v Speaker 7>historic starts to miracle.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't feel, well.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I'm interested in. But the whole, the whole

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<v Speaker 7>flex thing, it is what it is. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't surprise me.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the thing about the Thursday night game, so that

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<v Speaker 4>we found and I don't know if this was just

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<v Speaker 4>by chance last season because it was new, it was

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<v Speaker 4>Amazon Prime, it was a new group of people trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get it together.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think the production as a.

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<v Speaker 4>Whole will be better this year now that they've got

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<v Speaker 4>it under, they've got a season under their belt, they've

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<v Speaker 4>been developing. So that was a big issue with Thursday

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<v Speaker 4>Night Football last year. And then the second issue with

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<v Speaker 4>Thursday Night Football is I'm going to say seventy seven

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<v Speaker 4>percent of the matchups that we saw on Thursday Night.

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<v Speaker 8>Football last year were awful.

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<v Speaker 4>And the one that comes to mind it was the

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<v Speaker 4>Broncos and the was it the Rams that went to

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<v Speaker 4>like double overtime and it was like six to three.

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<v Speaker 7>That was the one. It was in Denver, it was

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<v Speaker 7>and it was just visible football.

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<v Speaker 4>It was horrible from top to bottom. And I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like every every single week it just kind of.

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<v Speaker 8>Went to that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know if that was just like a

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<v Speaker 4>scheduling issue. Hopefully they'll get that worked out. But to

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<v Speaker 4>your point, Isaiah, the Cowboys aren't really affected in that

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<v Speaker 4>way because they're not going to flex their Thanksgiving game

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<v Speaker 4>and then they're not going to flex the following Thursday

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<v Speaker 4>Night game that next week. So good to know for

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<v Speaker 4>other teams going forward. I don't think it affects this team.

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<v Speaker 4>What I do want to circle back to, though, is

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<v Speaker 4>the third quarterback roster spot because something that I was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of into yesterday. I didn't know a ton about

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<v Speaker 4>Will Greer. I came and he had already kind of

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<v Speaker 4>been established, and so I didn't really get an opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>to get to know him or know anything about him,

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<v Speaker 4>And so I kind of want to default.

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<v Speaker 8>To you guys here.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a guy who has been in the league

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<v Speaker 4>for a couple of years now. You mentioned Cooper Rush

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<v Speaker 4>just signed the two year extension, so he's likely the

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<v Speaker 4>backup quarterback. But Will greed to me is interesting because

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<v Speaker 4>his college tape and how he played it as a

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<v Speaker 4>collegiate athlete is so much different from his NFL experience.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't have a ton and when he did, the

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<v Speaker 4>reps necessarily weren't there.

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<v Speaker 8>But I wonder how happy he.

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<v Speaker 4>Is in the place that he is right now, sitting

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<v Speaker 4>at that third quarterback spot. Is he competitive? Does he

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<v Speaker 4>want that backup quarterback role.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>Things to dive into when it comes to Will Greer,

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<v Speaker 4>So I kind of just want to open this up

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<v Speaker 4>to you guys in terms of value. When you look

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<v Speaker 4>at Will Grear as a quarterback on this roster, where

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<v Speaker 4>do we see his value? You mentioned seeing him compete

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<v Speaker 4>for Cooper Rush at training camp. Is that something that

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<v Speaker 4>we're expected to see again? I mean, like realistically, how

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<v Speaker 4>realistic is it for the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 7>Central that's to hear the former quarterbacks. I think I

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<v Speaker 7>think the window closed for him unfortunately. I think last year,

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<v Speaker 7>last camp was his opportunity, and unfortunately when he got hurt,

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<v Speaker 7>that window dwindled.

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<v Speaker 6>That killed his reps.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, It really came down to the third preseason game

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<v Speaker 7>that he had an opportunity, and that was a quick

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't have the greatest of showings in that sort

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<v Speaker 7>and that short stint, so that was that was I

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<v Speaker 7>want to say it's predetermined, but it was determined relatively

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<v Speaker 7>quickly in that third game that okay, you're now our

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<v Speaker 7>third string. Cooper Rush had the opportunities, he took advantage

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<v Speaker 7>of the opportunities, and now he took care of business,

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<v Speaker 7>went called upon last year as well during the regular season.

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<v Speaker 7>So because of that clap, bravo, and now all of

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<v Speaker 7>a sudden he gets a contract extension. He is now

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<v Speaker 7>solidified as your backup quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>Unfortunately for will Will Greer, he has some things he

0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.600
<v Speaker 5>still needs to work on. Last year was his shot. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>this preseason he will have another opportunity. But you were

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<v Speaker 5>trying out not only for your third string of your

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<v Speaker 5>current team, but you're trying out for if you were

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<v Speaker 5>to get cut, which I don't foresee that happening now,

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<v Speaker 5>but if you were to get cut for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 5>you're trying out for the rest of the NFL and

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<v Speaker 5>hopefully try to earn a backup role. He to me,

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<v Speaker 5>is a very good competitor. He also, to me, has

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of work to do as a quarterback. He's

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<v Speaker 5>a gun slinger. I personally don't like his release point.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like his decision making some of the things

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<v Speaker 5>that I saw during camp last year. It just doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>seem like he values the possession of the ball as

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<v Speaker 5>much as you would like for somebody in that particular

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback role. But I don't know what has happened since then.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking forward to seeing his development here in this camp.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll say this when it comes to world career, first

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<v Speaker 7>and foremost, as you stated, he needs more development and

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<v Speaker 7>that's obvious, which is why he's quarterback three on an

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<v Speaker 7>NFL team.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>I will also say this, he's good enough to play

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<v Speaker 7>at this level, which is why he's quarterback on an

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<v Speaker 7>NFL team. So for him, it's just about trying to

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<v Speaker 7>pry open that window, because the window was wide open

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<v Speaker 7>for him last offseason. I sat there in summer camp,

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<v Speaker 7>summer camp and training camp during the.

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<v Speaker 8>Summer, this.

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<v Speaker 6>One time at band camp.

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<v Speaker 7>So I sat there in training camp in July and Oxnard,

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<v Speaker 7>and I saw that most of the big plays that

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<v Speaker 7>were being made, whether it was you know, the one

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<v Speaker 7>hand to catch from TJ Vasher, whether it was big

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<v Speaker 7>plays being made by Simmi Fojoko. If you after those plays,

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<v Speaker 7>if you looked to see who was under center, more

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<v Speaker 7>often than not, it was Will Greer.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't Cooper Rush.

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<v Speaker 7>As far as running with the second team, so Will

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<v Speaker 7>Griar took a massive Kentucky Derby style lead over Cooper Rush.

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<v Speaker 7>But then the injury and the time timing is everything.

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<v Speaker 7>It can work against you or can blow up in

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<v Speaker 7>your face. The timing of his injury was such that

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<v Speaker 7>the Cowboys didn't have time to get more game reps

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<v Speaker 7>in from him post injury before Dak Prescott went down

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<v Speaker 7>with injury, so they had to sit back and make

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<v Speaker 7>a decision, split decision. It came down to Cooper Rush

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<v Speaker 7>and then Cooper Rush took it. You know, he did

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<v Speaker 7>four and one, he earned the spot, but I was

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<v Speaker 7>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, his opportunity was that Denver practices and the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that he couldn't practice.

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<v Speaker 7>I remember we were calling that practice. The fact that

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<v Speaker 7>he could not practice day. It was a wrap that day.

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<v Speaker 7>It was also very hot that day. Where there's a

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<v Speaker 7>different milter. But I will say he has an opportunity

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<v Speaker 7>still to I will disagree in that It's okay, it's shut,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's not painted shut. Let me put it that way.

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<v Speaker 7>The window can still be open. Because even with a

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<v Speaker 7>two year deal on Cooper Rush, if you look at

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<v Speaker 7>it contractually, the Cowboys are not going to move on

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<v Speaker 7>from Cooper Rush this year, but they have an out

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<v Speaker 7>next year. So Will Greer can come into training camp

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<v Speaker 7>and regain his stride he had last year. At least

0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.160
<v Speaker 7>he puts in the Cowboys head. Combined with the new

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<v Speaker 7>rule that basically gives them carte blanche to carry him

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<v Speaker 7>without sacrificing a roster spot, he can.

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<v Speaker 6>Put in their head.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, maybe twenty twenty four is the year of Will

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<v Speaker 7>Gear being QB two because at that point, if you

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<v Speaker 7>want to make that move, you can do so move

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<v Speaker 7>on from Cooper Rush and not take a dead money hit.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's in the conversation as well.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and at the quarterback position, momentum and timing is

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<v Speaker 10>half the battle, especially when you're in the depth of

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<v Speaker 10>a quarterback roster and you know, trying to earn some snaps.

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<v Speaker 10>Especially in will Greer's case here, momentum and timing didn't

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<v Speaker 10>quite work in his favor last year. You know, he

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<v Speaker 10>would have had an opportunity to be a backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 10>or you know, potentially get some snaps whenever Dak went down,

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<v Speaker 10>but you know he wasn't able to be there for that.

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<v Speaker 10>So can't he regain that momentum timing? Absolutely, It's it's

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<v Speaker 10>it's always a possibility. Like you said, the door is

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<v Speaker 10>not painted shut. But you know, we're we're getting the

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<v Speaker 10>we're getting the Sherwin Williams out.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wonder though, you know, and it's hard because

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<v Speaker 4>we haven't had a chance to talk to these guys

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<v Speaker 4>in so long, but I just wonder what his mentality

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<v Speaker 4>is going into this, because you know, the joke, for

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<v Speaker 4>lack of better term, is that being a backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>is the best spot on an NFL roster because you

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<v Speaker 4>get paid and you don't have to do as much

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<v Speaker 4>work unless your name is called.

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<v Speaker 8>And so I just wonder from that aspect when it

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<v Speaker 8>comes to.

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<v Speaker 4>Will Greer, you know what his mentality as I know

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned he's a competitor, but like how competitive is

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<v Speaker 4>he really?

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<v Speaker 8>Is he really being? And I think OTAs this week

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<v Speaker 8>gives us a good opportunity.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he's he's a huge competitor, and his fires

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<v Speaker 7>were stoked as he had to sit on the sideline

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<v Speaker 7>and nurse that injury. And you hate knowing that you

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<v Speaker 7>have the lead to take this particular position from an

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<v Speaker 7>incumbent and then the injury kind of derails it. So

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<v Speaker 7>he's had to sit for the most of the season

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<v Speaker 7>on the inactives and trying to figure things out. He's

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<v Speaker 7>been kind of champing at the bit to get this opportunity,

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<v Speaker 7>and this new rule allows the Cowboys to carry him

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<v Speaker 7>without sacrificing the spot. So he has to look at

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<v Speaker 7>it as just that an opportunity. It might be your

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<v Speaker 7>final one with this organization, but that should add that

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<v Speaker 7>much more fire to his motivation to say, hey, it's

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<v Speaker 7>it's quite literally now, Will never his mindset going into

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<v Speaker 7>OTA's and then obviously following the break going into training

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<v Speaker 7>camp has to be to disrupt the order of the

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<v Speaker 7>back of the ORDA. You understand, as a player, my

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<v Speaker 7>opportunity's probably gone. You understand that that's not to say

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<v Speaker 7>that the door's closed. Okay, but it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>of a debo crack in the window. Okay, So it's

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit of crack get your pickernails under their Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>but you understand, Okay, contractually they're committed to this guy.

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<v Speaker 6>I missed my window last year. Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I can either be content, right and just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of chill and just kind of just know that they're

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<v Speaker 5>probably not now there's new rule enables me to remain

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<v Speaker 5>on the roster, or you can say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm about to make life.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, living hell for for for career, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And I want to make them have to make a decision,

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<v Speaker 5>and if so much so, where they're going to have

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<v Speaker 5>to figure out when when the season comes, who's number

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<v Speaker 5>two that day? Ye right, maybe it's a maybe it's

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<v Speaker 5>a situational thing based upon your opponent, right, but I

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<v Speaker 5>want them to have to make that decision. That's the

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<v Speaker 5>competitor mindset that he now has to have going into

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<v Speaker 5>this camp. Hey, you're my boy, but I promise you

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<v Speaker 5>if you slip up and have a bad day, oh

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<v Speaker 5>I'm bail, mister post man.

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<v Speaker 7>Which is how he was in training camp last it

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<v Speaker 7>was in July. He was exactly that every single day.

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<v Speaker 7>He and Cooper Russian Dek Prescott. That is a very

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<v Speaker 7>very tight knit quarterback room. But when it's time to

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<v Speaker 7>compete and it's you're competing for snaps and reps and

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<v Speaker 7>contract and et cetera, et cetera, he was as competitive

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<v Speaker 7>as anyone else you would have seen on that field.

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<v Speaker 7>And what I'll say about his skill set is Will

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<v Speaker 7>Greer has to know and I'm sure he does know.

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<v Speaker 7>These are an apple and an orange. When it comes

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<v Speaker 7>to Cooper Rush versus Will Grill, Will Greer is much

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<v Speaker 7>more of a a raw version of Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>He has mobility, He has the big arm, he's the

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<v Speaker 7>gun slinger. He takes risks. Cooper Rush doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 7>ton of mobility. He has some, but not not the same. Right,

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<v Speaker 7>he doesn't have the he does like.

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<v Speaker 8>You know exactly what you're gonna get out of He doesn't.

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<v Speaker 6>Have you ready.

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<v Speaker 7>And the last thing Cooper Rush does is take a risk, right,

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<v Speaker 7>That's the last thing he does. He is a game manager,

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<v Speaker 7>not saying that in a bad way, because you can win,

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<v Speaker 7>you have.

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<v Speaker 6>The absolutely he is. Cooper Rush is smooth jazz and

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<v Speaker 6>little John.

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<v Speaker 7>You just don't you just don't know what you're gonna get,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, just turn up so you say the good

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<v Speaker 7>with the bads to your point. But right now, not

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<v Speaker 7>only he has, the only way he's gonna be able

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<v Speaker 7>to disrupt that room is by getting knit tight with

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<v Speaker 7>his receivers. He the second string and third stream receivers

0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.000
<v Speaker 7>have to be his best friends. They got to be

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<v Speaker 7>playing Maden at his house, right, you know, they have

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<v Speaker 7>to be going to the moves. They got to be

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<v Speaker 7>going bowling, They got to be playing putt putt golf.

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<v Speaker 7>They gotta be doing everything together.

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<v Speaker 5>Those have to be his dogs because not only starting

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<v Speaker 5>here in OTAs, all the way through training camp, those

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<v Speaker 5>are gonna be the guys he's taking reps with.

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<v Speaker 6>And then if you're blessing, you're absolutely killing it.

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<v Speaker 7>Guess what, then you get to throw the CD right,

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<v Speaker 7>then you get that through that you know what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 7>then you get to throw that, you get to throw

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<v Speaker 7>to the dog on boomerang.

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<v Speaker 6>You know all these guys, you got to work your

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<v Speaker 6>way up to it.

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<v Speaker 7>So he needs to build this community and so that

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<v Speaker 7>those guys have a trust factor with him. And I

0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.800
<v Speaker 7>think we saw that last camp. We saw that last

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<v Speaker 7>camp where the guys were had a little bit more

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<v Speaker 8>At training camp. You will, yeah, we'll be it.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't mind if I dib out for a day to

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<v Speaker 6>Because the pj's a That's an.

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<v Speaker 8>Incredible soccer matchup. I I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen Barcelona play once. It was when I was

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<v Speaker 4>in Miami and they played Inner Miami, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>when they first signed Robert Lewandowski, who's like one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best strikers in the world. So it was like

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<v Speaker 4>our first opportunity to see him in a Barcelona jersey and.

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<v Speaker 8>They wrecked Inner Miami. But it was cool to see

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<v Speaker 8>everybody there.

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<v Speaker 7>That's pretty level, pretty big deal because levels in soccer, right, No,

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<v Speaker 7>I know, that's the hard that is the hardest sport

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<v Speaker 7>to stand out in, hands down.

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<v Speaker 8>And what's difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>What's difficult about it too is especially when you get

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<v Speaker 4>to like the Premier League, La Liga, the Italian League,

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<v Speaker 4>all of these leagues, you have these players who are

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<v Speaker 4>so solidified in their spots. There's not really any rotation,

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<v Speaker 4>so kind of like Will Greer, like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>get your opportunities and they disappeared. Really, your only opportunities

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<v Speaker 4>talking the last ten minutes of a game, plus stoppage time, injury,

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<v Speaker 4>so maybe you come in after an injury.

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<v Speaker 8>And with soccer it's so you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like results driven that if you get in as a

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<v Speaker 4>sub and you do nothing, like that's it.

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<v Speaker 6>You just know the guy.

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<v Speaker 8>That's it, cold world, you don't make the fifty. Let

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<v Speaker 8>me get off my soccer soapboxes. I could be here

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<v Speaker 8>all day.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's transition into organized team activities. They started yesterday OTAs

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of new faces in the building, mixing with

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<v Speaker 4>those veterans who are finally coming back and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>getting back.

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<v Speaker 8>Into the groove of things.

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<v Speaker 4>It was nice to see the rookies kind of get

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<v Speaker 4>their feet wet I mentioned this last week. It's so

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<v Speaker 4>fun just to see them, you know, like walk around

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<v Speaker 4>the building with their eyes open and they just don't

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<v Speaker 4>know where to go are they're trying to find their

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<v Speaker 4>meeting or the lunch table. But that kind of goes

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<v Speaker 4>away this week. Now they're into big boy football. They're

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<v Speaker 4>competing with the guys who are their veterans, their superiors.

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<v Speaker 8>What are some things that we're looking for out of

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<v Speaker 8>this week.

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<v Speaker 4>I know we will get a chance to talk with

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<v Speaker 4>them on Thursday at OTAs at the media availability, but

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<v Speaker 4>just this week, what are some things that we're looking

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<v Speaker 4>for in this roster in terms of developing for training camp?

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<v Speaker 6>For me?

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<v Speaker 7>And I'll take this away from the rookies and I'll

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<v Speaker 7>go with the obvious and the not so obvious. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm ready to see Mazzie Smith.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>Now keep in mind, I mean there will be some

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<v Speaker 7>seven on sevens now on nine eleven on elevens, but

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<v Speaker 7>no contact is allowed, ladies and gentlemen, So keep that

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<v Speaker 7>in mind. So you're not gonna We're not going to

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<v Speaker 7>see Mozzi Smith out there trying to bulldoze through anyone.

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<v Speaker 7>But I'm interested to see how quickly he can refine

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<v Speaker 7>his already stellar technique to take the next step at

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<v Speaker 7>the NFL. I'm looking to see his interactions with some

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<v Speaker 7>of these veterans. I'm looking to see other than OsO

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<v Speaker 7>O'diggy Zoo and Michael Parsons and Jonathan Hankins, you know who,

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<v Speaker 7>he's building instant relationships in chemistry with across that defensive

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<v Speaker 7>line and in the linebacker course, So I'm looking.

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<v Speaker 6>For that as well.

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<v Speaker 7>We spoke with Mazzi on minute one day one, and

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<v Speaker 7>the entirety of that day he just kept displying, displaying

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<v Speaker 7>his hunger to get on the field. Yeah, now he's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be on the field with the with the veterans,

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<v Speaker 7>so let's see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I loved how anytime you asked Mozzi, and even

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<v Speaker 4>this was when we got to talk to him at

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<v Speaker 4>rookie camp, anytime you asked him like how good does

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<v Speaker 4>it feel to be here, every single time his response

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<v Speaker 4>was I'm not getting too excited.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm just ready to go. Every time.

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<v Speaker 4>There was never any even when we were given the

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<v Speaker 4>tour around the building, he was as even keel as

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<v Speaker 4>he could have possibly been.

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<v Speaker 8>He was excited. He's like, Nah, I'm just I'm just

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<v Speaker 8>ready to play ball, Like that's it.

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<v Speaker 6>Best, sinister Grin.

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<v Speaker 8>That to me is what a competitor looks like.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and that's my obvious because you know, first round

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<v Speaker 7>pick a lot comes with that, and everybody's gonna have

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<v Speaker 7>all odds on him. But then my not so obvious

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<v Speaker 7>is I'm so intrigued. But I mean I'm intrigued by

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<v Speaker 7>several of these rookies assu him. You know Villiami, for example,

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<v Speaker 7>A huge fan of Williami's motor and his his aptitude

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<v Speaker 7>for football violence. But Eric Scott I can't shake the

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<v Speaker 7>the way Will McClay lights up when talking about this

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<v Speaker 7>young man to the point where, yes, I've seen the

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<v Speaker 7>film and I've seen the good and the bad, and

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<v Speaker 7>the good is he can take the ball away. You

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<v Speaker 7>talk about his two pick sixes in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 7>He has potential, he has the ceiling, but then he

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<v Speaker 7>also needs development. He's raw as well, and I want

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<v Speaker 7>to see how quickly he can develop under guys like

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 7>Al Harrison obviously Dan Quinn.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm interested to.

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<v Speaker 7>See what Will mccley, What McClay saw through Will mcclay's

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 7>eyes that sat back that had him sit back and say, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 7>we need to trade a twenty twenty four pick to

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<v Speaker 7>move up to one seventy eight for this kid. So

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<v Speaker 7>I know he's much faster than that four seven to

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<v Speaker 7>two on a tweet squad. He's he has the prototypical

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<v Speaker 7>length as far as what Dan Quinn likes to see

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<v Speaker 7>in defensive backs. But something about Eric Scott just kind

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<v Speaker 7>of it makes me intrigued enough to say, Hey, when

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<v Speaker 7>I'm out there looking at the Deuce Vongs on offense,

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<v Speaker 7>when I'm out there looking at the first round pick

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<v Speaker 7>Mazzie Smith on defense, I'm also trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 7>where Eric Scott is because I'm also interested to see

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<v Speaker 7>how he can try to carve his way into a

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<v Speaker 7>defensive back rotation that's already seemingly locked up in the

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<v Speaker 7>top four spots.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so what I'm looking for for Otia specifically is

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<v Speaker 10>interior offensive line. Yeah, who's getting those reps, who's coming in,

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<v Speaker 10>who's the coaching staff?

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<v Speaker 6>Langer trust.

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<v Speaker 10>Last week, Stephen Jones, we were able to talk to

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<v Speaker 10>him at an availability and he really talked up Chumulidoga,

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<v Speaker 10>So you know, that's a guy I want to see

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<v Speaker 10>out there for the first time, and you know, see.

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<v Speaker 6>How he's going people I forgotten people.

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<v Speaker 10>He mentioned probably three or four times, so uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>that's definitely something to look out for. And then also

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<v Speaker 10>there's a narrative going around that Stefan Gilmour isn't he's washed.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, that's a narrative since they signed him.

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 10>Exactly exactly, so if you sign Yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 4>Said the same thing about t Y Hilton when they

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<v Speaker 4>added Ye Linton, and he proved his value almost immediately.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely absolutely.

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<v Speaker 10>But if Stefan Gilmore can even bring eighty five percent

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<v Speaker 10>of what his his peak has been or even ninety whatever,

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<v Speaker 10>we're looking at a defense that can take away the

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<v Speaker 10>boundary and work completely between the hashes.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know that's that's.

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<v Speaker 10>That's what you want if your dan Quinn, because you've

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<v Speaker 10>got guys in the draft that can operate between the between.

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<v Speaker 7>The hashes, funnel him into the moon and l V

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<v Speaker 7>and a little bit of overshown. That's rom like, don

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<v Speaker 7>I'm looking at the chemistry.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's only so much you're going to see

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<v Speaker 5>in Ota, So I mean I don't want to temper.

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<v Speaker 6>Because it's install right, Yeah, it's installed.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're looking for how fast can these rookies really

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<v Speaker 5>digest information and then apply it, and then what is

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<v Speaker 5>their comfort level within that right, So whether that be

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<v Speaker 5>at the second level with overshowing it on defense, or

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<v Speaker 5>whether that be at the receiver position, right, how are

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<v Speaker 5>these guys taking information that they're receiving and then obviously

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<v Speaker 5>being able to apply it with the level of comfort

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<v Speaker 5>that they can start applying their confidence as players, There's

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<v Speaker 5>a difference between being a confident player and being a

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<v Speaker 5>confident player within a system.

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<v Speaker 6>And whenever there.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 5>Is that divisive line that's separating those two, you don't

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 5>get the player that you expect. So the faster that

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 5>they can, they can come in and learn and get

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 5>adapted to their environment and feel comfortable within their system.

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 6>Right, learn the offense, learn the defense.

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 7>Then I can start playing and using my assets as

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 7>the player that I you guys know me to be

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 7>on film and you I'll start showing that on the field.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 7>But until those two things mesh, I'm gonna be a

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 7>shadow of who you guys think I'm going to be.

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 7>But there's there's one more thing, and this is I'll

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 7>segue this too. A conversation that you and I had

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 7>offline yesterday, duce Vaughan, this is going to be as

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 7>they're starting to do some installs, this is going to

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 7>be the first real look we get at what might

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 7>hint at duce Vaughn's role on special teams. Because speaking

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 7>of narratives, there is a narrative out there outside of

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 7>the building that says, oh, well, duce is going to

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 7>come in and challenge Cavante Turpin.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 6>For one or both of the returns.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 8>I want two part returners, just saying to me, I'm people,

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 8>You're people.

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm that guy that's don't me to be Bones Fossil.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 8>I have two returners back now.

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 7>But in speaking, but if you listen to what Bones

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 7>is saying, at least right now as we have this conversation,

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 7>that's not how Bones is looking at duce Von. So

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 7>he's looking at duce Van as potentially a personal protector,

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 7>like these are Bones Fossils words right, So to me,

0:30:56.240 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 7>number one, first and foremost, Cavante Turpin has not only

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 7>not done anything to lose the job, He's coming off

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 7>of a Pro Bowl season as a rookie in which

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 7>he entered this season and training camp having not had

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 7>a break from a usf USFL MVP season. So you

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 7>have to put all of that contextually and say this

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 7>guy didn't have didn't take a breather, and he was

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 7>still a pro bowler. You don't then come into the

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:21.959
<v Speaker 7>next season and say, oh, well, you know we drafted

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 7>this rookie, so now it's a comp It's not a

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 7>competition at returner, now, can it be? Yes, Deuce can

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 7>make it one if Duke gets out there beginning in

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 7>OTAs and then mini camp and training camp, and because

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 7>he's going to get some reps as a returner, hunt

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 7>and kick, so Fossil can kind of gauge it because

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 7>at worst you have him as insurance back there.

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 6>But outright it's not a competition.

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, And there's not as much context I think as

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 10>some people may believe when it comes to Deuce Funn

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 10>seven kick returns for one hundred and forty five yards

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 10>as a freshman Kansas State.

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 6>And that's it science, you know, not a ton of contexts.

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 10>That being said, his trades, his mobility, you can throw

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 10>him back there. He was getting some work in rookie

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 10>mini camp, like you said, is he gonna get some reps?

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 10>But Cavante Turpin is coming off a USFL MVP and

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 10>a Pro Bowl appearance.

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 8>Let me ask you, let me ask, And this is

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 8>not like a dig at Cavante.

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 4>I think that he brings this very special, you know,

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 4>skill set to this roster. In terms of versatility, That's

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 4>been the conversation since the end of last year, beginning

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 4>even in the beginning of the season. This team's identity

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 4>has been versatility. What can I get out of you

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 4>and you and how can I mix this around and

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 4>do that? So in terms of versatility, what does Cavante

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Turpin bring you? And again I'm not dogging him. I

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 4>think he's a fantastic returner. You could feel the energy

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 4>every single time there was a kick or a punt

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 4>at at and T Stadium last year, and I imagine

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 4>it was the same.

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 8>On the road, the press box and so yeah, and

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 8>so I.

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Just think in terms of what they can offer Deuce

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 4>Vaughn and I get it, like he's small, he's a rookie.

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 4>We have a lot of expectations, We're putting a lot

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 4>of pressure on him.

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 8>But when you just look at it on paper.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 4>Like they were not allowing Cavante to be a part

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 4>of the offer. Last year, for whatever their reason was,

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 4>he was not involved in the offense in terms of

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 4>getting in on snaps, catching passes. The one time we

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 4>really got to see him was when he got lit

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 4>up in the forty nine Ers game in the last

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 4>play of that game. So he's not involved in the offense.

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that change is going into this year.

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 4>But then when you look at what Deuce Vaughan can offer.

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 4>He can return, he can do punts. I imagine he's

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 4>getting several reps at that. He can catch it out

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 4>of the backfield.

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 8>He's fast, he's a strong runner.

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 6>I just see what you're doing there. I see what

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 6>you're doing, pick what you're putting. I'm picking up what

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 6>you're putting in.

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 5>I think they both have equally equally have the same versatility.

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 5>The difference is last year they asked one thing.

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 6>Of turbine corrects.

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 5>Matter of fact, that's all he had to worry about.

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 5>Come in and be the dynamic returner that we need

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 5>you to be. We don't need you to play receiver.

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 5>We need a return man and you better be electrifying.

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 7>And I was blessed to be able to call that

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 7>game where he went back to back right. So that

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 7>was absolutely amazing. That's all he had to do, That's

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 7>not all he could do. Right, So what you're demanded

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 7>to do and what you're capable of doing two separate things. Right,

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 7>he checked the box that they asked him to check.

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.879
<v Speaker 7>Now he has a full off season, now he has

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 7>that spot solidified.

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 8>But did you see him, absolutely.

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.399
<v Speaker 5>Because when we saw him last year and practicing against

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 5>the Chargers, he was lighting him up in practice, absolutely

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 5>lighting them up every time we turn around.

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 6>Big play, big play, big play.

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 7>And that was just in a little bit of a

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 7>cup size that they gave him in terms of responsibilities

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 7>on offense.

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 5>So, now that you have a full off season, he

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 5>doesn't have the the butterflies, he doesn't have those nerves

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 5>running trying to figure out am I going to make

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 5>the roster? There's so much stress with that. Oh my gosh, Yeah,

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 5>there's so much stress with that. The fact that he

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 5>was able to perform under that stress, let you know

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 5>who he is and what he's capable of. That box

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 5>is now checked. He could put that behind him. Now

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't have to worry about do I have a

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 5>roster spot? Now my concern is how can I be

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 5>a better receiver so that I could be utilized more

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 5>right and I can bring more value.

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 6>That's his focus. Now.

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 7>Last year his focus was simply just making a dog

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 7>on roster. He was happy to have an invite the camp. Listen,

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna answer it this way, piggybacking off of what

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 7>Isaiah is saying. The versatility is absolutely there with Cavante

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 7>Turpin as much as it is with Douce Valm. It

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 7>goes to, like Isaiah said, what you're being asked to do,

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 7>what you're not being asked to do. So I think

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 7>there are two reasons that the Cowboys scaled back and

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.839
<v Speaker 7>didn't allow Cavante Turpin to take many offensive reps. Number One,

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 7>he was much too valuable as a returner, and they

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 7>did not have an insurance policy at returner. So if

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 7>you lose Cavante Turpin on inside slant from the and

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 7>the seeds your backup and now CD being your number

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 7>one wide receiver, the domino effect is just tragic.

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 6>So that's one.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 7>Number Two, we talk about him not having a break

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 7>between his MVP USFL season and joining Cowboys in training camp.

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 7>So do you really want to run him into the

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.240
<v Speaker 7>ground like that, knowing you have a seventeen game season

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 7>plus hopefully a playoff run, you have to it's load

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 7>management without obviously admitting.

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 6>In his load management. But here's one more thing I'll say.

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 7>Standing there on the sideline day to day in training

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.760
<v Speaker 7>camp in Knox Snart last summer, I saw Cavante turping

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 7>on offense and he's got it, okay. I saw him

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 7>line up in the slot and go with the slant

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 7>and come with the outs.

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 6>I also saw.

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 7>Him go to the boundary and take the top off

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 7>on more than one occasion and come down with come

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.879
<v Speaker 7>down with catches that technically should only be acquired by

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 7>the bigger guys, the guys with the bigger catch radius.

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 6>Here's the small guy climbing the ladder.

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 7>He was making the plays. So I saw it in

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 7>real time. I saw the receipts, so I know what

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 7>he can do. So that's why, over the course of

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 7>the season when we were asking why not get him

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 7>more involved? From my standpoint, it's because I saw what

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 7>he can do. So going into this season full off season,

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 7>he had a break, he gets to come back refreshed.

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 6>I expect to see more of him on offense.

0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 7>Also because duce Vaughan is an insurance policy if Cavante

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 7>is injured, and.

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 10>From an offensive standpoint, Cavante's herpin. When he was most

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 10>dangerous at TCU, it was coming out of the backfield

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 10>and doing jet sweeps and whether it was lining up

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 10>or motioning in, and he was super, super dangerous. I

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 10>encourage everybody to go look back at that TCU tape.

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 10>But I think your latter point was the most important.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 10>The load management. You know, you don't want your your

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 10>Pro Bowl returner playing offense every down. So I think

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.439
<v Speaker 10>going into training camp, seeing how many reps he gets,

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 10>and especially going into preseason where when he comes into

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 10>the game from an offensive standpoint, that's going to be

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 10>really important. But like the discussions we've had on here

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 10>in the past, the wide receiver four conversation is going

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 10>to be very interesting.

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I guess.

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 4>I guess that's where my mentality is like going into

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Like you said, I get the load management, and I'm

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 4>not saying he's not capable of doing those things. He's

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 4>perfectly capable. He's MVP for a reason, regardless of the league.

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 8>I just worry it's a crowded wide receiver room.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 4>I worry that, you know, maybe that is his role

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 4>where he stays at being a returner, and that's what

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 4>he's really good out for the entirety of his career.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 4>So definitely something to pay attention to for OTAs we

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 4>are running tight on time, so let's go ahead and

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 4>take our second and final break here and talking cow boys.

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 8>We'll come back and.

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 4>We'll talk about this roster a little bit more. We'll

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:06.439
<v Speaker 4>tie some loose ends and send the show on the road.

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<v Speaker 4>most complete roster and that's what I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about to wrap up the show.

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<v Speaker 8>But in the break we got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 8>breaking news.

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<v Speaker 4>For lack of better terms, I'm going to go over

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<v Speaker 4>to Nick and Nick you can explain the new rule

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<v Speaker 4>that NFL teams will see this season.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 10>NFL owners once again and acting a role that will

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<v Speaker 10>cause some controversy. The NFL owners this morning approved the

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<v Speaker 10>resolution putting the ball on the twenty five yard line

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<v Speaker 10>following a fair catch on a kickoff. A note that

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<v Speaker 10>special team coordinators around the league unanimously opposed the change.

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<v Speaker 6>But it is is happening. So what's that smell? Is

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<v Speaker 6>that that? Oh, that's trash. That's right, trash, trash. We

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<v Speaker 6>just finished talking about. This is how I feel so bad.

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<v Speaker 7>We just spoken the second segment about Cavante Turpin induced

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<v Speaker 7>Voln's potential value as returners. Here comes the NFL completely

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<v Speaker 7>just kneecapping that whole conversation, not only for Terping, but

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<v Speaker 7>just returners around the league. Because you're basically you're rewarding

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<v Speaker 7>fair catches, you're rewarding you know, touchbacks because you're doing

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<v Speaker 7>all you can to incrementally and now you're picking up

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<v Speaker 7>the pace, but incrementally, just abolish kick returns. Ultimately, that's

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<v Speaker 7>what the NFL is leading towards abolishing kick returns. So now,

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<v Speaker 7>if I'm Kavante Turpin, where are my offensive reps? Give

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<v Speaker 7>me my offensive because I'm clearly not going to be

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<v Speaker 7>able to see as much action on special team, So

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<v Speaker 7>give me my give me my shots a receiver.

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<v Speaker 10>And I think something that's interesting that's happened in the

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<v Speaker 10>college game with this role, as if you wave the

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<v Speaker 10>fair catch and let's say you're on the two yard

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<v Speaker 10>line and you muffet and pick it up at the three,

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<v Speaker 10>you're still down at the three, you can advance it

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<v Speaker 10>and you have to start your offensive drive at the

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<v Speaker 10>three yard line. So that's gonna come into play at

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<v Speaker 10>some point this season with some team, and that's gonna

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<v Speaker 10>be that's gonna be the one that makes everybody lose

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<v Speaker 10>their minds.

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<v Speaker 5>So as now, I mean, the percentages of an actual

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<v Speaker 5>kickoff return are so low now, right, Like, what's the point?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Like seriously, I really, what's the point unless you want

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<v Speaker 5>to just squib kicking everything, because that's what it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to turn into. Yeah, if you want somebody to actually

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<v Speaker 5>return the ball, you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 6>Have to squib it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wondering as well, if it has anything to do

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<v Speaker 4>and this is just pure speculation, something that just came

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<v Speaker 4>to my head. I'm wondering if it has anything to

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<v Speaker 4>do with injuries. Possibly, I don't know, if being able

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<v Speaker 4>to have a little bit more space, a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more time to make decisions, and you're rewarded for that behavior, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just trying to find one redeeming quality.

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<v Speaker 7>In turn, they're trying to continue to claim it's based

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<v Speaker 7>upon player safety. They're going to continue to claim that

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<v Speaker 7>the numbers show that kickoff return is the highest risk

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<v Speaker 7>of all plays on the field over the course of

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<v Speaker 7>a football game. And that's why they've instituted this rule,

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<v Speaker 7>and then the rule prior they're restructuring the whole return

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<v Speaker 7>game because they basically, let's just be honest, they want

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<v Speaker 7>to abolish the return game as a whole all they

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<v Speaker 7>if they written listen, I don't want to get into

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<v Speaker 7>that because because there's actual sciences, because I'm a returner, right,

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<v Speaker 7>so I'm speaking from the person who would actually get

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<v Speaker 7>destroyed on that play. Okay, when they took away the wedge,

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<v Speaker 7>that took away the high probability of a concussion.

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<v Speaker 6>If they really want to take away.

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<v Speaker 5>Another layer deeper, okay, take away crackbacks, take away blindside

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<v Speaker 5>crackbacks on kickoff. Right, the kickoff return team should not

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<v Speaker 5>be allowed to crack back. If you really want to

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<v Speaker 5>lower concussions, don't take away the return. Don't take away

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<v Speaker 5>the return and don't go to the freaking X fail

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<v Speaker 5>on their whole little way to somebody catch. That's that's

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like that either.

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<v Speaker 7>So just get rid of the wedge, which they already did.

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<v Speaker 7>Get rid of the crackbacks. Now where is the injury

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<v Speaker 7>in terms of head?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm running back as a frontline, as a frontline guy

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<v Speaker 5>on kickoff return, I am turning the balls kick, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>opening up, I'm springting back twenty twenty five yards. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>settling my feet, and then I'm coming in. I'm blocking

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<v Speaker 5>you with my hands. Dude, where is the head trauma?

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<v Speaker 7>Just neutered one of the most electron fine types of

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<v Speaker 7>plays in the NFL, the kick return you, that's where.

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<v Speaker 6>We are, squid. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, they, like Nick said, they claim that it's a

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<v Speaker 7>one year trial. I don't buy that because I understand

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<v Speaker 7>the psychology of trying to reduce the immediate outrage by saying, hey, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>well only we're.

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<v Speaker 6>Just trying it out. This is money on the table.

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<v Speaker 10>This is going to stick, and then on a Friday

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<v Speaker 10>night next year they're just going to go ahead, approved.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, money on the table. This is this is going

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<v Speaker 6>to stick. The draft.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, this is approved by the way, all right, so

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<v Speaker 10>next pick.

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<v Speaker 4>Just slide it in there. Yeah yeah, it'll be interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>The season will definitely look a little bit different in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of some of these new rules.

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<v Speaker 8>So good insight from you guys. That's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Though, for our time here on Talking Cowboys, thanks so

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<v Speaker 4>much for letting me talk with you guys on these

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<v Speaker 4>lovely talking Tuesday. It's been such a good time. Kyle

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<v Speaker 4>will be back next week. I will be back on

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<v Speaker 4>Girls Talk Boys Talk next week, so we will be

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<v Speaker 4>back into our way of life, and then.

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<v Speaker 8>Training camp will be here. Nicorn, we know it.

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<v Speaker 7>I know.

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<v Speaker 8>Sorry, I've never been invited on you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that'll do it for Talking Cowboys.

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