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Speaker 1: This He's Talking Cowboys straining live from the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: At the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 3: Dot Tinsondown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker,

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 4: Well, welcome into another edition of Talking Cowboys featuring myself,

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Speaker 4: Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, and Patrick Nosey Walker. I'm Hailey

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Speaker 4: Sutton in for Kyle Yeomans one final time as he

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Speaker 4: wraps up his honeymoon celebration.

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Speaker 5: Nobo, we got a boogie celebration, sing around the last

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Speaker 5: Man from Seattle, and I never even had the money

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Speaker 5: to go to the Last so I'll try.

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Speaker 6: What kind of money is this boy make around here?

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Speaker 7: I know I need picks, Kyle, I know you're listening.

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Speaker 7: I need picks. I need videos because I've not yet

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Speaker 7: had the pleasure to go to Alaska, but I know

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Speaker 7: for a fact that it's one of the most beautiful

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Speaker 7: places on earth, So congratulations on that. But I need

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Speaker 7: I need to live vicariously through him like I did

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Speaker 7: you through you in Mexico with the whales and yeah,

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Speaker 7: you guys have.

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Speaker 6: Nice vacation.

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Speaker 8: Mexico.

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Speaker 6: I drive to the Star from my vacation. Vacation, I

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Speaker 6: getting nick.

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Speaker 8: You know, yea, yeah exactly, just come back. No trip.

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Speaker 8: Weren't you just in Seattle?

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Speaker 2: Like for.

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Speaker 5: I wish, I wish I got to go somewhere. I

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Speaker 5: don't get to go anywhere. You see my summer, I

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Speaker 5: try to look forward. This would be the only week

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Speaker 5: that my family and I can actually travel anywhere, Like.

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Speaker 6: This is the only one week that we have because

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Speaker 6: of the track. My kids are in.

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Speaker 7: Track, so one of the best sports. Yeah, every just

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Speaker 7: considered your whole summer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's so oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to hate running summer track. It was

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Speaker 4: like the bane of my existence.

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Speaker 8: But anyways, we move on. What did I run? What

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Speaker 8: do you think I ran?

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not going to guess. It's like guessing somebody's Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you don't guess what a vincedbody.

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Speaker 4: I was a sprinter, So I ran the one, the two,

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Speaker 4: the eight hundred. That's not a sprint, I know, but

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Speaker 4: that's what I was going to say. It wasn't my choice.

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Speaker 4: My coach made me run the eight hundred.

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Speaker 6: She said, she ran the one, so yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Ran the one.

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Speaker 6: The two eight hundred is a sprint for some people,

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Speaker 6: which I don't know what.

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Speaker 4: Their loans are because I played soccer, and so it

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Speaker 4: was a good.

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Speaker 4: And then actually I was a very good long jumper

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Speaker 4: triple jumper, so yeah, I actually real quick.

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Speaker 8: Flex.

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Speaker 4: I learned how to triple jump the day of my

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Speaker 4: first ever track meet in the eighth grade, and I

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Speaker 4: never lost flat this morning, guys, a.

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Speaker 6: Little bit of a flex I like it. I like

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Speaker 6: it a lot.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get into some cowboys conversations today. A

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Speaker 4: lot of news how happening around the league. But the

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Speaker 4: biggest that we actually discussed yesterday at lunch Patrick is

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Speaker 4: the new quarterback rule that has been enlisted for the

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Speaker 4: NFL in this upcoming season. I'm going to let you

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Speaker 4: dive into the details of it, but real quick, just

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Speaker 4: here's the skinny on what that looks like. So essentially,

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Speaker 4: the NFL is allowing rosters to add a third quarterback

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Speaker 8: As that player is on the fifty three.

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Speaker 4: And the best part about it is it doesn't affect

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Speaker 4: your inactives. It doesn't affect your roster cap in terms

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Speaker 4: game day roster. There are some caveats to it that

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Speaker 4: third quarterback cannot play in a game until the first

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Speaker 4: and second string quarterbacks have gone out, but obviously a

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Speaker 8: Specifically the Cowboys who have three quarterbacks on their roster

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Speaker 8: this year.

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Speaker 4: Patrick kind of just dive into what that looks like

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Speaker 8: For the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, that sound you hear is Will

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Speaker 7: Grier smiling hear to hear, because this rule basically guarantees that,

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Speaker 7: you know, assuming he remains the third quarterback on the team,

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Speaker 7: it basically guarantees he gets to suit up every single week. Now,

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Speaker 7: as you said, Haley, he doesn't get to play unless

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Speaker 7: both QB one Dak Prescott and Cooper Rosh QB two

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Speaker 6: So that's kind of the dance there.

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Speaker 7: But the beauty of it is for the Cowboys is

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Speaker 7: they will never be in a situation like we saw

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Speaker 7: the forty nine ers in in the NFC Championship against

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Speaker 6: So that's what that rule is.

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Speaker 7: We can kind of dub it the Christian McCaffrey room, right,

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Speaker 7: But you gotta love it because it also means that

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys neither you know, know, any of the other

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Speaker 7: thirty one teams have to burn a roster spot. It's

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Speaker 7: more or less a roster exemption specific for QB three

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Speaker 7: on a week to week basis. So like you said, Haley,

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Speaker 7: number one is they have to make the active fifty

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Speaker 7: three man roster and final cutdowns. You cannot stash the

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Speaker 7: QB on the practice squad because anyone that's elevated in

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Speaker 7: any given week is not eligible to be designated as

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Speaker 7: your emergency QB, and they have to make that designation

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Speaker 7: the same time they make the inactives known, which is

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Speaker 7: ninety minutes, no later than ninety minutes probably to kickoff.

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Speaker 7: So those are the key things. But for Will Greer,

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Speaker 7: who is still going to compete with Cooper Rush. I

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Speaker 7: know Cooper Rush's resigning strongly implies that he's going to

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Speaker 7: be the QB two. But we're not going to sit

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Speaker 7: here and say there's not going to be.

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Speaker 6: A battle there.

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Speaker 7: Will Greer arguably took the lead in that battle last

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Speaker 7: But I mean, it's a fantastic rule all around. Can't

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Speaker 7: say the same about the other rule that was approved yesterday.

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Speaker 7: And I was tossing the Carris for that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: but I guess you get a win, but you got

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Speaker 7: to take a loss as well if you're an NFL fan,

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Speaker 7: And so the loss is the Thursday night flexs rule.

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Speaker 6: I'll let Harris dive in that one. Yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 10: At the owner's meetings yesterday, the NFL also approved Thursday

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Speaker 10: night football flex scheduling, which basically allows the NFL twenty

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Speaker 10: game to Thursday night. There's a lot of different stipulations

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Speaker 10: that they would have to meet. It can only be

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Speaker 10: in week thirteen through seventeen because there's not a Thursday

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Speaker 10: night football game in week eighteen. A team can't be

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Speaker 10: and they still can only have two Thursday night games.

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Speaker 10: So it's a slim chance that anything even happens with

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Speaker 10: the flex Thursday night football scheduling. But let's say you

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Speaker 10: are a Jets fan and y'all are playing in Denver

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Speaker 10: in week seventeen, and you have just always wanted to

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Speaker 10: go to Mile High on a Thursday night and you

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Speaker 10: find out twenty eight days before that it's going to

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Speaker 6: You got to change all of.

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Speaker 10: Your scheduling, you got to move your flights around, movie

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Speaker 10: tickets around. And that's why eight voters voted against it.

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Speaker 10: The Cowboys did vote for it. Twenty four to eight

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Speaker 10: allowed to pass a rule, and it passed barely. But

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Speaker 10: it's there's some fans that are very upset about it.

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Speaker 10: Giants owner is very upset about it. It looks like

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Speaker 10: Isaiah stand back to my right is upset about it

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Speaker 10: here leg well as well.

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Speaker 7: It's unfortunate for the fame, say with you to me,

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Speaker 7: and to be honest with you, that that aspect really

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Speaker 7: doesn't bother me that much. The whole Thursday night flex thing,

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Speaker 7: it doesn't affect Dallas, right, Dallas already has two Thursday

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Speaker 6: Correct, So we got obviously is one of those things.

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Speaker 8: Well they do. It's not Thursday night Thursday, okay, gotcha?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, I mean it is whatever to me

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Speaker 5: as a player, you don't like Thursday night games.

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Speaker 6: Let's just call it how it is.

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Speaker 5: You hate Thursday night games because your body literally just

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Speaker 5: recovered the day before from the previous week. So after

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Speaker 5: the player's perspective, it absolutely sucks. But let's be honest,

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Speaker 5: this league is not forward facing in terms of taking

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Speaker 6: This is about the money in the pockets of the owner.

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Speaker 5: So knowing that that's the fact, you shrugg your shoulder

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Speaker 5: and you say, okay, there's just another thing that helps

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Speaker 5: them put more money in their pocket. The third quarterback thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to that and how coaches and organizations

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Speaker 5: work around that rule. Because now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: it's like, oh my knee hurts. Okay, come on in

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Speaker 5: here for this next quarter real quick.

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Speaker 6: I feel like you're hinting at some Bill BELICHICKI is.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, there's always a workaround. Okay, there's always

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Speaker 5: a work around. So I am looking more forward to

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Speaker 5: that third quarterback and how organization is determined.

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Speaker 6: To go forward with that.

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Speaker 5: You know how it's going to go. So my gosh,

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Speaker 5: I sprained my big topic. Let me go get it

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Speaker 5: scanned real quick, right, And so it starts.

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Speaker 7: Open, the backup quarterback starts oerver five and then suddenly

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Speaker 7: historic starts to miracle.

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Speaker 6: I don't feel, well.

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Speaker 7: That's what I'm interested in. But the whole, the whole

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Speaker 7: flex thing, it is what it is. I mean, it's

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Speaker 7: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing about the Thursday night game, so that

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Speaker 4: we found and I don't know if this was just

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Speaker 4: by chance last season because it was new, it was

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Speaker 4: Amazon Prime, it was a new group of people trying

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Speaker 4: to get it together.

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Speaker 8: So I think the production as a.

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Speaker 4: Whole will be better this year now that they've got

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Speaker 4: it under, they've got a season under their belt, they've

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Speaker 4: been developing. So that was a big issue with Thursday

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Speaker 4: Night Football last year. And then the second issue with

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Speaker 4: Thursday Night Football is I'm going to say seventy seven

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Speaker 4: percent of the matchups that we saw on Thursday Night.

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Speaker 8: Football last year were awful.

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Speaker 4: And the one that comes to mind it was the

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Speaker 4: Broncos and the was it the Rams that went to

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Speaker 4: like double overtime and it was like six to three.

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Speaker 7: That was the one. It was in Denver, it was

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Speaker 7: and it was just visible football.

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Speaker 4: It was horrible from top to bottom. And I feel

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Speaker 4: like every every single week it just kind of.

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Speaker 8: Went to that.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if that was just like a

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Speaker 8: But I wonder how happy he.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Central that's to hear the former quarterbacks. I think I

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately for will Will Greer, he has some things he

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to seeing his development here in this camp.

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Speaker 7: I'll say this when it comes to world career, first

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Speaker 7: that's obvious, which is why he's quarterback three on an

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 7: I will also say this, he's good enough to play

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Speaker 7: pry open that window, because the window was wide open

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Speaker 7: for him last offseason. I sat there in summer camp,

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Speaker 7: So I sat there in training camp in July and Oxnard,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, his opportunity was that Denver practices and the fact

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Speaker 6: Put in their head.

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Speaker 7: Well, maybe twenty twenty four is the year of Will

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and at the quarterback position, momentum and timing is

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Speaker 10: Especially in will Greer's case here, momentum and timing didn't

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Speaker 4: I just wonder though, you know, and it's hard because

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Speaker 8: And so I just wonder from that aspect when it

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Speaker 8: Is he really being? And I think OTAs this week

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Speaker 7: I think he's he's a huge competitor, and his fires

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Speaker 7: it's quite literally now, Will never his mindset going into

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Speaker 6: I missed my window last year. Okay.

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Speaker 5: Now I can either be content, right and just kind

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Speaker 5: I'm about to make life.

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Speaker 6: You know, living hell for for for career, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I want to make them have to make a decision,

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Speaker 7: Which is how he was in training camp last it

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Speaker 7: He has mobility, He has the big arm, he's the

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Speaker 8: You know exactly what you're gonna get out of He doesn't.

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Speaker 7: That's the last thing he does. He is a game manager,

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Speaker 6: The absolutely he is. Cooper Rush is smooth jazz and

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Speaker 7: with the bads to your point. But right now, not

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Speaker 7: to disrupt that room is by getting knit tight with

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Speaker 7: his receivers. He the second string and third stream receivers

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Speaker 7: have to be his best friends. They got to be

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Speaker 7: playing Maden at his house, right, you know, they have

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Speaker 7: to be going to the moves. They got to be

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Speaker 7: They gotta be doing everything together.

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Speaker 5: Those have to be his dogs because not only starting

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Speaker 6: And then if you're blessing, you're absolutely killing it.

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Speaker 7: Guess what, then you get to throw the CD right,

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Speaker 6: You know all these guys, you got to work your

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Speaker 7: So he needs to build this community and so that

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Speaker 7: those guys have a trust factor with him. And I

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Speaker 5: So that's the only way that I can see him

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Speaker 4: about this, y'all. Spanish soccer giants Real Madrid and FC

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Speaker 8: Hey for the first time ever.

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Speaker 8: At training camp. You will, yeah, we'll be it.

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Speaker 6: Well, we'll be watching it. We'll be watching and I will,

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Speaker 6: so y'all.

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Speaker 8: Don't mind if I dib out for a day to

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Speaker 8: come to that.

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Speaker 6: Because the pj's a That's an.

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Speaker 8: Incredible soccer matchup. I I know.

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Speaker 4: I've seen Barcelona play once. It was when I was

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Speaker 4: in Miami and they played Inner Miami, and it was

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Speaker 4: when they first signed Robert Lewandowski, who's like one of

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Speaker 4: the best strikers in the world. So it was like

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Speaker 4: our first opportunity to see him in a Barcelona jersey and.

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Speaker 8: They wrecked Inner Miami. But it was cool to see

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Speaker 8: everybody there.

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Speaker 7: That's pretty level, pretty big deal because levels in soccer, right, No,

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Speaker 7: I know, that's the hard that is the hardest sport

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Speaker 7: to stand out in, hands down.

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Speaker 8: And what's difficult.

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Speaker 4: What's difficult about it too is especially when you get

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Speaker 4: to like the Premier League, La Liga, the Italian League,

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Speaker 4: all of these leagues, you have these players who are

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Speaker 4: so solidified in their spots. There's not really any rotation,

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Speaker 4: so kind of like Will Greer, like, you know, you

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Speaker 4: get your opportunities and they disappeared. Really, your only opportunities

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Speaker 4: you get in soccer is garbage time minutes, so you're

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Speaker 4: talking the last ten minutes of a game, plus stoppage time, injury,

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Speaker 4: so maybe you come in after an injury.

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Speaker 8: And with soccer it's so you know.

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Speaker 4: Like results driven that if you get in as a

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Speaker 4: sub and you do nothing, like that's it.

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Speaker 6: You just know the guy.

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Speaker 8: That's it, cold world, you don't make the fifty. Let

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Speaker 8: me get off my soccer soapboxes. I could be here

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Speaker 8: all day.

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Speaker 4: Let's transition into organized team activities. They started yesterday OTAs

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Speaker 4: a lot of new faces in the building, mixing with

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Speaker 4: those veterans who are finally coming back and you know,

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Speaker 4: getting back.

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Speaker 8: Into the groove of things.

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Speaker 4: It was nice to see the rookies kind of get

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Speaker 4: their feet wet I mentioned this last week. It's so

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Speaker 4: fun just to see them, you know, like walk around

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Speaker 4: the building with their eyes open and they just don't

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Speaker 4: know where to go are they're trying to find their

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Speaker 4: meeting or the lunch table. But that kind of goes

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Speaker 4: away this week. Now they're into big boy football. They're

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Speaker 4: competing with the guys who are their veterans, their superiors.

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Speaker 8: What are some things that we're looking for out of

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Speaker 8: this week.

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Speaker 4: I know we will get a chance to talk with

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Speaker 4: them on Thursday at OTAs at the media availability, but

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Speaker 4: just this week, what are some things that we're looking

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Speaker 4: for in this roster in terms of developing for training camp?

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Speaker 6: For me?

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Speaker 7: And I'll take this away from the rookies and I'll

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Speaker 7: go with the obvious and the not so obvious. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: I'm ready to see Mazzie Smith.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 7: Now keep in mind, I mean there will be some

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Speaker 7: seven on sevens now on nine eleven on elevens, but

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Speaker 7: no contact is allowed, ladies and gentlemen, So keep that

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Speaker 7: in mind. So you're not gonna We're not going to

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Speaker 7: see Mozzi Smith out there trying to bulldoze through anyone.

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Speaker 7: But I'm interested to see how quickly he can refine

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Speaker 7: his already stellar technique to take the next step at

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Speaker 7: the NFL. I'm looking to see his interactions with some

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Speaker 7: of these veterans. I'm looking to see other than OsO

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Speaker 7: O'diggy Zoo and Michael Parsons and Jonathan Hankins, you know who,

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Speaker 7: he's building instant relationships in chemistry with across that defensive

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Speaker 6: For that as well.

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Speaker 7: We spoke with Mazzi on minute one day one, and

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Speaker 7: the entirety of that day he just kept displying, displaying

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Speaker 7: his hunger to get on the field. Yeah, now he's

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Speaker 7: going to be on the field with the with the veterans,

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Speaker 7: so let's see how that goes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I loved how anytime you asked Mozzi, and even

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Speaker 4: rookie camp, anytime you asked him like how good does

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Speaker 8: I'm just ready to go. Every time.

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Speaker 4: There was never any even when we were given the

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Speaker 8: He was excited. He's like, Nah, I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 8: ready to play ball, Like that's it.

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Speaker 6: Best, sinister Grin.

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Speaker 8: That to me is what a competitor looks like.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's my obvious because you know, first round

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Speaker 7: pick a lot comes with that, and everybody's gonna have

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Speaker 7: all odds on him. But then my not so obvious

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Speaker 7: is I'm so intrigued. But I mean I'm intrigued by

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Speaker 7: several of these rookies assu him. You know Villiami, for example,

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Speaker 7: A huge fan of Williami's motor and his his aptitude

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Speaker 7: for football violence. But Eric Scott I can't shake the

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Speaker 7: the way Will McClay lights up when talking about this

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Speaker 7: young man to the point where, yes, I've seen the

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Speaker 7: film and I've seen the good and the bad, and

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Speaker 7: the good is he can take the ball away. You

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Speaker 7: talk about his two pick sixes in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 7: He has potential, he has the ceiling, but then he

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Speaker 7: also needs development. He's raw as well, and I want

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Speaker 7: to see how quickly he can develop under guys like

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Speaker 6: But I'm interested to.

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Speaker 7: See what Will mccley, What McClay saw through Will mcclay's

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Speaker 7: eyes that sat back that had him sit back and say, Jerry,

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Speaker 7: we need to trade a twenty twenty four pick to

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Speaker 7: move up to one seventy eight for this kid. So

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Speaker 7: I know he's much faster than that four seven to

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Speaker 7: two on a tweet squad. He's he has the prototypical

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Speaker 7: length as far as what Dan Quinn likes to see

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Speaker 7: in defensive backs. But something about Eric Scott just kind

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Speaker 7: of it makes me intrigued enough to say, Hey, when

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Speaker 7: when I'm out there looking at the first round pick

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Speaker 7: Mazzie Smith on defense, I'm also trying to figure out

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so what I'm looking for for Otia specifically is

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Speaker 10: interior offensive line. Yeah, who's getting those reps, who's coming in,

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Speaker 10: who's the coaching staff?

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Speaker 6: Langer trust.

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Speaker 10: Last week, Stephen Jones, we were able to talk to

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Speaker 10: him at an availability and he really talked up Chumulidoga,

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Speaker 10: So you know, that's a guy I want to see

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Speaker 10: out there for the first time, and you know, see.

665
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 6: How he's going people I forgotten people.

666
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 10: He mentioned probably three or four times, so uh, you know,

667
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 10: that's definitely something to look out for. And then also

668
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 10: there's a narrative going around that Stefan Gilmour isn't he's washed.

669
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 8: Right, that's a narrative since they signed him.

670
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 10: Exactly exactly, so if you sign Yeah, they.

671
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: Said the same thing about t Y Hilton when they

672
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: added Ye Linton, and he proved his value almost immediately.

673
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely.

674
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 10: But if Stefan Gilmore can even bring eighty five percent

675
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 10: of what his his peak has been or even ninety whatever,

676
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 10: we're looking at a defense that can take away the

677
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 10: boundary and work completely between the hashes.

678
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 6: And you know that's that's.

679
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 10: That's what you want if your dan Quinn, because you've

680
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 10: got guys in the draft that can operate between the between.

681
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 7: The hashes, funnel him into the moon and l V

682
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 7: and a little bit of overshown. That's rom like, don

683
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 7: I'm looking at the chemistry.

684
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 6: I'm not.

685
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: I mean, there's only so much you're going to see

686
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 5: in Ota, So I mean I don't want to temper.

687
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 6: Because it's install right, Yeah, it's installed.

688
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 5: So you're looking for how fast can these rookies really

689
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 5: digest information and then apply it, and then what is

690
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 5: their comfort level within that right, So whether that be

691
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 5: at the second level with overshowing it on defense, or

692
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 5: whether that be at the receiver position, right, how are

693
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 5: these guys taking information that they're receiving and then obviously

694
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 5: being able to apply it with the level of comfort

695
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: that they can start applying their confidence as players, There's

696
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 5: a difference between being a confident player and being a

697
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: confident player within a system.

698
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 6: And whenever there.

699
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 5: Is that divisive line that's separating those two, you don't

700
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 5: get the player that you expect. So the faster that

701
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 5: they can, they can come in and learn and get

702
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 5: adapted to their environment and feel comfortable within their system.

703
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 6: Right, learn the offense, learn the defense.

704
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 7: Then I can start playing and using my assets as

705
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 7: the player that I you guys know me to be

706
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 7: on film and you I'll start showing that on the field.

707
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 7: But until those two things mesh, I'm gonna be a

708
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 7: shadow of who you guys think I'm going to be.

709
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 7: But there's there's one more thing, and this is I'll

710
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 7: segue this too. A conversation that you and I had

711
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 7: offline yesterday, duce Vaughan, this is going to be as

712
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 7: they're starting to do some installs, this is going to

713
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 7: be the first real look we get at what might

714
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 7: hint at duce Vaughn's role on special teams. Because speaking

715
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 7: of narratives, there is a narrative out there outside of

716
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 7: the building that says, oh, well, duce is going to

717
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 7: come in and challenge Cavante Turpin.

718
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 6: For one or both of the returns.

719
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 8: I want two part returners, just saying to me, I'm people,

720
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 8: You're people.

721
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 6: I'm that guy that's don't me to be Bones Fossil.

722
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 8: I have two returners back now.

723
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 7: But in speaking, but if you listen to what Bones

724
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 7: is saying, at least right now as we have this conversation,

725
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 7: that's not how Bones is looking at duce Von. So

726
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 7: he's looking at duce Van as potentially a personal protector,

727
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 7: like these are Bones Fossils words right, So to me,

728
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 7: number one, first and foremost, Cavante Turpin has not only

729
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 7: not done anything to lose the job, He's coming off

730
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 7: of a Pro Bowl season as a rookie in which

731
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 7: he entered this season and training camp having not had

732
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 7: a break from a usf USFL MVP season. So you

733
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 7: have to put all of that contextually and say this

734
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 7: guy didn't have didn't take a breather, and he was

735
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 7: still a pro bowler. You don't then come into the

736
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 7: next season and say, oh, well, you know we drafted

737
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 7: this rookie, so now it's a comp It's not a

738
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 7: competition at returner, now, can it be? Yes, Deuce can

739
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 7: make it one if Duke gets out there beginning in

740
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 7: OTAs and then mini camp and training camp, and because

741
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 7: he's going to get some reps as a returner, hunt

742
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 7: and kick, so Fossil can kind of gauge it because

743
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 7: at worst you have him as insurance back there.

744
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 6: But outright it's not a competition.

745
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, And there's not as much context I think as

746
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 10: some people may believe when it comes to Deuce Funn

747
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 10: seven kick returns for one hundred and forty five yards

748
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 10: as a freshman Kansas State.

749
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 6: And that's it science, you know, not a ton of contexts.

750
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 10: That being said, his trades, his mobility, you can throw

751
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 10: him back there. He was getting some work in rookie

752
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 10: mini camp, like you said, is he gonna get some reps?

753
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

754
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 10: But Cavante Turpin is coming off a USFL MVP and

755
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 10: a Pro Bowl appearance.

756
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 8: Let me ask you, let me ask, And this is

757
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 8: not like a dig at Cavante.

758
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: I think that he brings this very special, you know,

759
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: skill set to this roster. In terms of versatility, That's

760
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: been the conversation since the end of last year, beginning

761
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 4: even in the beginning of the season. This team's identity

762
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: has been versatility. What can I get out of you

763
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 4: and you and how can I mix this around and

764
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: do that? So in terms of versatility, what does Cavante

765
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: Turpin bring you? And again I'm not dogging him. I

766
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: think he's a fantastic returner. You could feel the energy

767
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 4: every single time there was a kick or a punt

768
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: at at and T Stadium last year, and I imagine

769
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: it was the same.

770
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 8: On the road, the press box and so yeah, and

771
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 8: so I.

772
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 4: Just think in terms of what they can offer Deuce

773
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: Vaughn and I get it, like he's small, he's a rookie.

774
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: We have a lot of expectations, We're putting a lot

775
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: of pressure on him.

776
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 8: But when you just look at it on paper.

777
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 4: Like they were not allowing Cavante to be a part

778
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: of the offer. Last year, for whatever their reason was,

779
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: he was not involved in the offense in terms of

780
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: getting in on snaps, catching passes. The one time we

781
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: really got to see him was when he got lit

782
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: up in the forty nine Ers game in the last

783
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: play of that game. So he's not involved in the offense.

784
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if that change is going into this year.

785
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: But then when you look at what Deuce Vaughan can offer.

786
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: He can return, he can do punts. I imagine he's

787
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: getting several reps at that. He can catch it out

788
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: of the backfield.

789
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 8: He's fast, he's a strong runner.

790
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 6: I just see what you're doing there. I see what

791
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 6: you're doing, pick what you're putting. I'm picking up what

792
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 6: you're putting in.

793
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 5: I think they both have equally equally have the same versatility.

794
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 5: The difference is last year they asked one thing.

795
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 6: Of turbine corrects.

796
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, that's all he had to worry about.

797
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 5: Come in and be the dynamic returner that we need

798
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 5: you to be. We don't need you to play receiver.

799
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 5: We need a return man and you better be electrifying.

800
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 7: And I was blessed to be able to call that

801
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 7: game where he went back to back right. So that

802
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 7: was absolutely amazing. That's all he had to do, That's

803
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 7: not all he could do. Right, So what you're demanded

804
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 7: to do and what you're capable of doing two separate things. Right,

805
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 7: he checked the box that they asked him to check.

806
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 7: Now he has a full off season, now he has

807
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 7: that spot solidified.

808
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 8: But did you see him, absolutely.

809
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 5: Because when we saw him last year and practicing against

810
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 5: the Chargers, he was lighting him up in practice, absolutely

811
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 5: lighting them up every time we turn around.

812
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 6: Big play, big play, big play.

813
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 7: And that was just in a little bit of a

814
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 7: cup size that they gave him in terms of responsibilities

815
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 7: on offense.

816
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: So, now that you have a full off season, he

817
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: doesn't have the the butterflies, he doesn't have those nerves

818
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 5: running trying to figure out am I going to make

819
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 5: the roster? There's so much stress with that. Oh my gosh, Yeah,

820
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 5: there's so much stress with that. The fact that he

821
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 5: was able to perform under that stress, let you know

822
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 5: who he is and what he's capable of. That box

823
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 5: is now checked. He could put that behind him. Now

824
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 5: I don't have to worry about do I have a

825
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 5: roster spot? Now my concern is how can I be

826
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 5: a better receiver so that I could be utilized more

827
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 5: right and I can bring more value.

828
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 6: That's his focus. Now.

829
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 7: Last year his focus was simply just making a dog

830
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 7: on roster. He was happy to have an invite the camp. Listen,

831
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 7: I'm gonna answer it this way, piggybacking off of what

832
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 7: Isaiah is saying. The versatility is absolutely there with Cavante

833
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 7: Turpin as much as it is with Douce Valm. It

834
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 7: goes to, like Isaiah said, what you're being asked to do,

835
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 7: what you're not being asked to do. So I think

836
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 7: there are two reasons that the Cowboys scaled back and

837
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 7: didn't allow Cavante Turpin to take many offensive reps. Number One,

838
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 7: he was much too valuable as a returner, and they

839
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 7: did not have an insurance policy at returner. So if

840
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 7: you lose Cavante Turpin on inside slant from the and

841
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 7: the seeds your backup and now CD being your number

842
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 7: one wide receiver, the domino effect is just tragic.

843
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 6: So that's one.

844
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 7: Number Two, we talk about him not having a break

845
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 7: between his MVP USFL season and joining Cowboys in training camp.

846
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 7: So do you really want to run him into the

847
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 7: ground like that, knowing you have a seventeen game season

848
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 7: plus hopefully a playoff run, you have to it's load

849
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 7: management without obviously admitting.

850
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 6: In his load management. But here's one more thing I'll say.

851
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 7: Standing there on the sideline day to day in training

852
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 7: camp in Knox Snart last summer, I saw Cavante turping

853
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 7: on offense and he's got it, okay. I saw him

854
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 7: line up in the slot and go with the slant

855
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 7: and come with the outs.

856
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 6: I also saw.

857
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 7: Him go to the boundary and take the top off

858
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 7: on more than one occasion and come down with come

859
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 7: down with catches that technically should only be acquired by

860
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 7: the bigger guys, the guys with the bigger catch radius.

861
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 6: Here's the small guy climbing the ladder.

862
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 7: He was making the plays. So I saw it in

863
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 7: real time. I saw the receipts, so I know what

864
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 7: he can do. So that's why, over the course of

865
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 7: the season when we were asking why not get him

866
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 7: more involved? From my standpoint, it's because I saw what

867
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 7: he can do. So going into this season full off season,

868
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 7: he had a break, he gets to come back refreshed.

869
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 6: I expect to see more of him on offense.

870
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 7: Also because duce Vaughan is an insurance policy if Cavante

871
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 7: is injured, and.

872
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 10: From an offensive standpoint, Cavante's herpin. When he was most

873
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 10: dangerous at TCU, it was coming out of the backfield

874
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 10: and doing jet sweeps and whether it was lining up

875
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 10: or motioning in, and he was super, super dangerous. I

876
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 10: encourage everybody to go look back at that TCU tape.

877
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 10: But I think your latter point was the most important.

878
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 10: The load management. You know, you don't want your your

879
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 10: Pro Bowl returner playing offense every down. So I think

880
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 10: going into training camp, seeing how many reps he gets,

881
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 10: and especially going into preseason where when he comes into

882
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's where my mentality is like going into

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Speaker 4: Like you said, I get the load management, and I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying he's not capable of doing those things. He's

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Speaker 8: I just worry it's a crowded wide receiver room.

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Speaker 8: But in the break we got a little bit of

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Speaker 4: For lack of better terms, I'm going to go over

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Speaker 4: to Nick and Nick you can explain the new rule

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Speaker 4: that NFL teams will see this season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 10: NFL owners once again and acting a role that will

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Speaker 10: cause some controversy. The NFL owners this morning approved the

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Speaker 10: resolution putting the ball on the twenty five yard line

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Speaker 10: following a fair catch on a kickoff. A note that

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Speaker 10: special team coordinators around the league unanimously opposed the change.

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Speaker 6: But it is is happening. So what's that smell? Is

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Speaker 6: that that? Oh, that's trash. That's right, trash, trash. We

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Speaker 6: just finished talking about. This is how I feel so bad.

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Speaker 7: We just spoken the second segment about Cavante Turpin induced

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Speaker 7: Voln's potential value as returners. Here comes the NFL completely

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Speaker 7: just kneecapping that whole conversation, not only for Terping, but

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Speaker 7: just returners around the league. Because you're basically you're rewarding

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Speaker 7: fair catches, you're rewarding you know, touchbacks because you're doing

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Speaker 7: all you can to incrementally and now you're picking up

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Speaker 7: the pace, but incrementally, just abolish kick returns. Ultimately, that's

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Speaker 7: what the NFL is leading towards abolishing kick returns. So now,

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Speaker 7: if I'm Kavante Turpin, where are my offensive reps? Give

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Speaker 7: me my offensive because I'm clearly not going to be

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Speaker 7: able to see as much action on special team, So

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Speaker 7: give me my give me my shots a receiver.

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Speaker 10: And I think something that's interesting that's happened in the

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Speaker 10: college game with this role, as if you wave the

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Speaker 10: fair catch and let's say you're on the two yard

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Speaker 10: line and you muffet and pick it up at the three,

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Speaker 10: you're still down at the three, you can advance it

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Speaker 10: and you have to start your offensive drive at the

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Speaker 10: three yard line. So that's gonna come into play at

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Speaker 10: some point this season with some team, and that's gonna

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Speaker 10: be that's gonna be the one that makes everybody lose

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Speaker 10: their minds.

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Speaker 5: So as now, I mean, the percentages of an actual

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Speaker 5: kickoff return are so low now, right, Like, what's the point?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Like seriously, I really, what's the point unless you want

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Speaker 5: to just squib kicking everything, because that's what it's going

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Speaker 5: to turn into. Yeah, if you want somebody to actually

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Speaker 5: return the ball, you're gonna.

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Speaker 6: Have to squib it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering as well, if it has anything to do

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Speaker 4: and this is just pure speculation, something that just came

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Speaker 4: to my head. I'm wondering if it has anything to

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Speaker 4: do with injuries. Possibly, I don't know, if being able

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Speaker 4: to have a little bit more space, a little bit

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Speaker 4: more time to make decisions, and you're rewarded for that behavior, right,

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to find one redeeming quality.

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Speaker 7: In turn, they're trying to continue to claim it's based

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Speaker 7: upon player safety. They're going to continue to claim that

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Speaker 7: the numbers show that kickoff return is the highest risk

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Speaker 7: of all plays on the field over the course of

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Speaker 7: a football game. And that's why they've instituted this rule,

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Speaker 7: and then the rule prior they're restructuring the whole return

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Speaker 7: game because they basically, let's just be honest, they want

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Speaker 7: to abolish the return game as a whole all they

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Speaker 7: if they written listen, I don't want to get into

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Speaker 7: that because because there's actual sciences, because I'm a returner, right,

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Speaker 7: so I'm speaking from the person who would actually get

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Speaker 7: destroyed on that play. Okay, when they took away the wedge,

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Speaker 7: that took away the high probability of a concussion.

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Speaker 6: If they really want to take away.

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Speaker 5: Another layer deeper, okay, take away crackbacks, take away blindside

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Speaker 5: crackbacks on kickoff. Right, the kickoff return team should not

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Speaker 5: be allowed to crack back. If you really want to

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Speaker 5: lower concussions, don't take away the return. Don't take away

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Speaker 5: the return and don't go to the freaking X fail

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Speaker 5: on their whole little way to somebody catch. That's that's

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Speaker 5: I don't like that either.

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Speaker 7: So just get rid of the wedge, which they already did.

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Speaker 7: Get rid of the crackbacks. Now where is the injury

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Speaker 7: in terms of head?

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Speaker 5: I'm running back as a frontline, as a frontline guy

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Speaker 5: on kickoff return, I am turning the balls kick, I'm

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Speaker 5: opening up, I'm springting back twenty twenty five yards. I'm

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Speaker 5: settling my feet, and then I'm coming in. I'm blocking

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Speaker 5: you with my hands. Dude, where is the head trauma?

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Speaker 7: Just neutered one of the most electron fine types of

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Speaker 7: plays in the NFL, the kick return you, that's where.

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Speaker 6: We are, squid. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Now, they, like Nick said, they claim that it's a

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Speaker 7: one year trial. I don't buy that because I understand

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Speaker 7: the psychology of trying to reduce the immediate outrage by saying, hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 7: well only we're.

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Speaker 6: Just trying it out. This is money on the table.

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Speaker 10: This is going to stick, and then on a Friday

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Speaker 10: night next year they're just going to go ahead, approved.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, money on the table. This is this is going

1045
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Speaker 6: to stick. The draft.

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Speaker 10: Hey, this is approved by the way, all right, so

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Speaker 10: next pick.

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Speaker 4: Just slide it in there. Yeah yeah, it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 4: The season will definitely look a little bit different in

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Speaker 4: terms of some of these new rules.

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Speaker 8: So good insight from you guys. That's gonna do it.

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Speaker 4: Though, for our time here on Talking Cowboys, thanks so

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Speaker 4: much for letting me talk with you guys on these

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Speaker 4: lovely talking Tuesday. It's been such a good time. Kyle

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Speaker 4: will be back next week. I will be back on

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Speaker 4: Girls Talk Boys Talk next week, so we will be

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Speaker 4: back into our way of life, and then.

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Speaker 8: Training camp will be here. Nicorn, we know it.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, I've never been invited on you.

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Speaker 4: Well, that'll do it for Talking Cowboys.

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