1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Sports Radio final hour on this Monday, Best and Worst 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: of the weekend. What you saw that you liked you 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,159 Speaker 1: didn't like. Operator Tyler is sitting by. He'll take your 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: phone calls. Good morning if you're watching on Peacock. Thank 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: you for downloading the app, we say good morning. If 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: you're listening on our radio affiliates around the country. Paul 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Finebaumb of the Mothership will join us. We'll talk about 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: where we're going with the NCAA. The settlement opens the 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: door for schools to pay athletes directly. What could go wrong. 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Paul about that and what it means 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: to you for you the football fan. I don't know 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: if it will mean anything that you'll be able to 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: see right away, but we'll talk to Paul about that. 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: Pole question for the final hour of the program, Seaton 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: is going to. 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Be well, we haven't really discussed this one on the 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: air much or well not much, not really actually at all, 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: but it's more of a story off air. 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Oh better Corn, Chip Doritos or Frito's better? Who is 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: having this conversation? 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: This? 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: I am okay with anybody else? 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: We have a bag of Frito's back there, and that 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: made me wonder which I prefer more Fritos or Dorito's. 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: I'm much more of a Dorito's guy, I think, But 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: I'm appreciating these friedos a lot. Made me wonder if 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: I've been underappreciating them. 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: You're kind of sneaky snacker. You're the sneaky snacker. I'm 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: a constant snacker. Yeah, I'm a sneaky snacker, but I do. 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: I'll catch seating in there, and I can hear, you know, 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: we have these gumball machines, but we filled them up 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: with jelly beans and Eminem's, and I'll just hear that. 34 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: These nerds clusters back there, and now all of a 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: sudden there's these sweet tart ropes and like a jolly 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: rancher rope. 37 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: It's just. 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: My will is truly being tested on a minute by 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: minute basis. 40 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Feels like the nachos are a little more decadent as 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: opposed to Fredos. FreeDOS are a staple Dorito's. It feels 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: like here like I'm in the mood for Doritos. Fredo's 43 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: They're always there, Yes, ton, Yeah. 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: I would lean towards Dorito's but uh, very Fredos is 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: a don't sleep on, especially the Fredo scoops. Once you 46 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 4: start doing the scoop, then there it is a difference 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: between corn shift and s there it is. 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: They made it easier on us scoop then yeah. 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: You could dip it in stuff and that's a good 50 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: idea of the scoop. 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 5: J Yes, and Fridos have a versatile personality. You could 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 5: use Fritos in chili. You could use Fritos in a 53 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 5: lot of different ways. Personal snack. 54 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, sixty percent of the audience take Dorito's though. 55 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 4: Okay, yes, Ton, do you remember the old Fredo's commercial 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 4: Munch A bunch of munch and much much uch of 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 4: Fritos goes with lunch. It was a very popular commercial 58 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: back in the. 59 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: Day, probably nineteen eighty one. 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: Probably little yeah, early to mid eighties, right on. 61 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: There, Yeah, go figure much a bunch of Fritos goes 62 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: with lunch? 63 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 6: Thank you, Ton. 64 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: We got hockey coming up tonight. It's Game three, hopefully 65 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: more overtime. Panthers and the Eulers Thunder. They tie the 66 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: series and now it goes to Indiana. Next game will 67 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: be Wednesday night. I think the Commissioner of the NBA. 68 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: Adam Silver's joining us on Wednesday. That's correct, all right, 69 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: probably from Indiana. 70 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: I would hope so okay inter students showing up at 71 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: the game. That would be a great place for him 72 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: to be. 73 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: Okay, last night, pretty impressive the Pacers of the first 74 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: team in twelve years to not have a twenty point 75 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: score in the first two games of the NBA Finals. 76 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm all for balance scoring, but I would need to 77 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: have a little more balance with that scoring. And that's 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: the problem. Can you score enough to beat Okac and 79 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: Okasee has been very resilient. They're five and oh this postseason. 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: After a loss and with shake shake Gilchess, Alexander is 81 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: going to get his points. He's going to get thirty 82 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: and it's rare when you go, okay, that guy's getting 83 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: thirty in the postseason. He's the eighth player in NBA 84 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: history to score thirty four or more in each of 85 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: the first two games of the NBA Finals. Joining and 86 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: these are all Hall of famers Lebron Shack, Jordan Kareem, 87 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Jerry West, John Hailcheck, and Elgin Baylor. Brought to you 88 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan 89 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. As you know, I've stumbled upon Facebook, so 90 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: I do in my downtime go through and watch videos. 91 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: Golf videos could be music icons playing in a concert, 92 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: could be basketball related or baseball football related. And I 93 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: came across some John Havelcheck highlights. And John Habilcheck is 94 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer with the Boston Celtics. I think 95 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: he had twenty six thousand points in his career and 96 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: it's an oh, by the way, twenty six down. He 97 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: wasn't even the best guy on his own college team. 98 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: That was Jerry Lucas, and he played on the same 99 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: team Bob Knight was on that team. But Bob wasn't 100 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: a great college player. But Hondo his nickname, John Habilcheck. 101 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: He was a He kind of married a couple of 102 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: different generations of the Celtics, so you had him with 103 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: Russell and Coozie, and then he was the sixth man. 104 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: He created the sixth Man of the Year award or 105 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: it was created because of him. And then he played 106 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: with Dave Cowens, you know, so he was sort of 107 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: that bridge with the Celtics. And his stats are unbelievable, unbelievable, 108 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: but He's one of those guys that you just you 109 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of lump him in with all the Celtics. Well, 110 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: he's different than most of the Celtics because Dave Cowens, 111 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: who played with Habilcheck, is quoted as saying he would 112 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: take habile Check over Larry Bird. Now you know he 113 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: played with Halcheck, Dave didn't play with Larry. But still 114 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: that's high praise for John Havelcheck, who was a guy 115 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: who never stopped. If you watched him play, he was 116 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: in constant motion. If you look at you know, the 117 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: way Reggie Miller played, it was constant motion. Habilcheck's the 118 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: first guy I remember who never stopped. And you know 119 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: that if you talk to somebody who plays defense, it's 120 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: the guy who never stops who's really hard to guard. 121 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: And he was a wonderful player, clutch player and probably 122 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: an eleven time, twelve time All Star. Yeah, PAULI, Yeah, 123 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: you're right. 124 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 5: He stopped playing in seventy eight, thirteen straight All Star appearances, 125 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 5: first Team All NBA Defense seven straight years, and during 126 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 5: those years he's averaging like twenty seven, twenty four, twenty six. Yeah, 127 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: all purpose player. He's a great example of the TV 128 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 5: era missed him, yep. 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: But he was involved in one one of the greatest games, 130 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: craziest games that was against the Phoenix Suns against the 131 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: Boston Celtics. When Boston thought they had won the game, 132 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: fans are storm in the court and there was like, 133 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, a second left and that's when you 134 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: had gar Heard hitting the shot that sent it into overtime. 135 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: As one of my favorite series because I love the 136 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns, Alvin Adams and Ricky Sobers. They were a 137 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: fun team to watch, but the Boston Celtics a wild 138 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: finish at the Garden. Yeah, Havilchak sort. 139 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: Of like in his movement, it made me think of 140 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Steph Curry. He's sort of always just going. Is that 141 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: would that be similar? Or well he wasn't. He wasn't 142 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: the shooter. 143 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: He was a score yeah, but the movement of just yeah, yeah, 144 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: he never stops. Yes, constant, constant motion. And I just 145 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: used to be you know, guys would stand around in 146 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: the NBA back in the day. But Havelcheck. I remember 147 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: reading an article what makes John Havelcheck Run? That was 148 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: the title the article. Because he never stopped and he 149 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: probably could have been a great marathon runner, and he 150 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: was a great athlete. I think the Cleveland Browns drafted 151 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: him as maybe a tight end. Yeah, Pauly, he had. 152 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 5: Eight titles again in thirteen years. I think what happens 153 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 5: to guys like him? Remember that Steelers team that's seven 154 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: eight year run with the Steelers in the seventies and 155 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: early eighties. All their players end up in the Hall 156 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 5: of Fame, but they kind of get lumped together as 157 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 5: a group, And like Jack Lambert, if you said who's 158 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 5: the greatest middle linebacker of all time? Jack Lambert from 159 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: the Steelers, his name doesn't come up because he's almost 160 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 5: like part of a group. And Havelcheck is not a 161 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 5: standalone he's a Celtic great or a Steeler great. So 162 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 5: you're kind of it's a good thing because you go 163 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: to the Hall of Fame because of it, but it's 164 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 5: a negative for your personal career. 165 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 6: Maybe. Yeah. 166 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Sam Jones to me was an incredible player, but you 167 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: know there was k C. Jones on the same team, 168 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: but Sam Jones was a very underrated player. And you're 169 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: right because it was top heavy with Kuzi and Russell, 170 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: and you find this with certain teams where it's so 171 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: top heavy that the other players are kind of complimentary, 172 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Like Habilchek was a complimentary player to Russell and Kuzi, 173 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: but he was not you know, even Tommy Heinzen was 174 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: a wonderful player. You do get lost in that winning. 175 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: I guess that's a good thing to get lost in 176 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: a winning tradition. 177 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, like Klay Thompson, Clay Thompson's career is going 178 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: to be very memorable, and he's got titles like crazy. 179 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 5: He's got no records for scoring or team records, but 180 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 5: I think you'd prefer that then the average thirty for 181 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 5: five years with the Hawks. 182 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm winning titles. Like winning titles is getting him 183 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. 184 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: If Hablcheck played for the Atlanta Hawks, he'd have crazy 185 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 5: stats and we never talk about it again. 186 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: He would probably not be a Hall of Famer. You 187 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: win titles. It's like they held it against the Vikings 188 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: when they lost four Super Bowls. They've held that against 189 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills getting there. I mean, there has to 190 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: be it has to be rewarded, and we are a 191 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: bottom line, you know, sports society, Did you win? 192 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 6: No? 193 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: No. 194 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: I always the way we looked at teams who got 195 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: blown out in the super Bowl. It's like, oh, those 196 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: guys suck, those guys are terrible, Like they made it 197 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, but we would always look at 198 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: who won, never get like you know, lebron getting to 199 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: an NBA Finals and getting to the finals as many times, 200 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: even if he lost, it's a monumental achievement to get 201 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: there as many times. Yes, Marvin, I. 202 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 7: Think that's why people look back at what John Elway 203 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 7: did in those early years when he got the Broncos 204 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 7: to the Super Bowl and he lost against some great, 205 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 7: great teams, and it's like, well, look who we bought 206 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 7: to the super Bowl, and you saw what happened When 207 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 7: he got a good running game in a good defense, 208 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 7: you could see him start winning super Bowls when he 209 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 7: got a complete team. 210 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: But if he doesn't win those Super Bowls, I don't 211 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: know if we look at him as a Hall of 212 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: Famer because he was being embarrassed or his teams were 213 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: being embarrassed in Super Bowls, not giving him the credit 214 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: he deserved to get his team to the super Bowl 215 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: because those offenses weren't good. 216 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 5: Yes, and there's some baseball teams like that. The late 217 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 5: seventies Dodgers with Ron Say and Marshall and all Garvey. 218 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 5: You can't even get to all the names your team, 219 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 5: the Reds. I think that's the most talented baseball team 220 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 5: of my lifetime, the late mid to late seventies Reds. 221 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 5: You can't even keep track of all the Hall of 222 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 5: famers on that team. And Johnny Bench might be the 223 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 5: only one who gets the greatest of all time treatment. 224 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 5: You know, I don't think Dave concept Joan gets his due. 225 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 5: He's part of a group with the Reds. 226 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Pres is not considered one of the great 227 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: first basement of all time. Pete's one of the great 228 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: players of all time, Joe Morgan one of the great 229 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: second basemen of all time. And Johnny, you know, if 230 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: not the best catcher of all time, certainly on the 231 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: short list there. 232 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 7: Yes, Marvin, Sorry, going back to something you said earlier, 233 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 7: you said John Away wouldn't be considered a Hall of 234 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 7: Famer or just maybe in the Marino conversation. 235 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: It might be in the Marino, but Marino was putting 236 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: up better numbers than John Back then you weren't throwing 237 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: for thirty touchdowns. I don't think Montana or Elway. Maybe 238 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: one time they threw for thirty or thirty one touchdown passes. 239 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: It was just a different game. And that's why when 240 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: you say somebody to look at Bart's Starr or Bob 241 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: Greesi's stats and go why is he a Hall of Famer? 242 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: It was different back then. What you were asked to do. 243 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: You were a game manager. That's why whenever I talk 244 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: about a game manager, I mean it's based off what 245 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: I saw with some of the greatest quarterbacks of all 246 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: time who played in a different generation. And Johnny United 247 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: is Bart Starr, Bob Greasy like they managed the game. 248 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: You want me to throw twenty five times, you want 249 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: me to throw fifteen, okay, And I look at that 250 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: as high praise. I think Patrick Mahomes is more of 251 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: a game manager now, and it's not a negative, Like 252 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: he'll manage the game until he needs to go solo 253 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: and maybe you know, you get to the fourth quarter, 254 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: you know Tom Brady managed the game as well as 255 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: anybody who's ever played, and then you get to the 256 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: point where you go, Okay, now we need you to 257 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: go above and beyond. We need you to put on 258 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: a cape. Yeah, yeah, like. 259 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: There has to be different ways to use game manager, 260 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: because game manager before was it felt like more you 261 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: put this guy in and said just don't screw it up. 262 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll try to win it. You're right and 263 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: I and that's not fair, you know to somebody like 264 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes who's managing a game in a completely different way. Yeah, 265 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: I need to come up with a better term, a 266 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: complimentary term, because then all of a sudden somebody say, hey, 267 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Dan Patrick, call you a game manager, although 268 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: he might go, yeah, I mean I have to manage 269 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: the game. That's the position. 270 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, game manager sounds like a guy who's middle 271 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 5: of the road, maybe still wears a name tag at work. 272 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 5: But if you said game ceo, that means that guy's 273 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: the boss. You know you can make the decisions. Yeah, 274 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 5: you're right, you're right, game ceo. Gotta come up with 275 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 5: a game ceo. 276 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't catch on. That won't work shop then yes. 277 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: Director captain, Like what the what word could fit there? 278 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: Well, captain, there's already captains on the team. 279 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: But like you're so used to the word manager, but 280 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: it does have that a negative connotation to it, and 281 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: it's gonna always have that unless they come up. 282 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 6: With something else. 283 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: Haircut looks fresh? Thanks, yeah, get that. 284 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: Over the weekend I did my wife did a little 285 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: buzz cut. Went a little too short, but for the summer, 286 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: there's not much to work with anyway. She made some 287 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: kind of silver fox comments, tongue in cheek, whatever, a little. 288 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: Bit of hair, the green light like that, she waved 289 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: your home. Were you guys sitting in bathtubs? 290 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: The walls just fell away and all of a sudden, 291 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: magical forest appeared, and you two walked hand in hands 292 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: toward two bethtubs. 293 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: Are you Are you driving a convertible, a Mustang convertible room? 294 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: Perhaps your hands touched slightly and the look, oh, I like. 295 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 8: Your versions of it as opposed to what actually happened 296 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 8: a lot more exciting the way you guys she said 297 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 8: it with an eye roll and like, you know, tongue 298 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 8: in cheek cut of thing, as opposed to like, hey, 299 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 8: you know, kids aren't here, and silver fox, you got 300 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 8: a nice haircut. 301 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: I just gave you let's ticket to take it upstairs. 302 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: It wasn't like that at all. 303 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: Sorry to hear that, buddy. 304 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: Damn, it's just a haircut. 305 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: Well, she's kind of a game manager though. Yeah he 306 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: really it was only kiss. Yeah, only a kiss. 307 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: I made a sandwich and she went to go watch 308 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 4: Real Fortune or something. 309 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 6: That was really the end of that. 310 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: Uh, Tim in Ohio? Hi Tim, what's on your mind today? 311 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 9: Ok? 312 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 10: How's it going? 313 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 6: Good? 314 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Tim? 315 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 6: Good? 316 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 10: Six feet. 317 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: Falling in? 318 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 10: Say about the lid? All So that's the weekend. That 319 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 10: RBC Canadian Open was awesome. That shot Ryan Fox hit 320 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 10: on eighteen said it was the best shot he ever 321 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 10: hid in his life. 322 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was. 323 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 9: An incredible theater. 324 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 10: But Joaquin Neeman winning the Live Tour was also awesome. 325 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 10: He's won five to he finished top ten in the 326 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 10: last couple of majors. You said that the US Open 327 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 10: was not exciting. It was exciting last year with Roy 328 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 10: McElroy and Bryson D Schambeau. Coming down to it, all, Right. 329 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: When did I say the US Open wasn't exciting? 330 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 10: He said he wanted to be more exciting with it 331 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 10: coming down to here's players that are coming into eighteen 332 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 10: with a plot to win it or lose it. 333 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Oh, but I want more players to challenge Scottie Scheffler, Right, 334 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: But that. 335 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 10: Weren't they challenging him the last year at the US Open. 336 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want more. I want more of it. I'm 337 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: looking at the odds here. Tim Scheffler is an overwhelming 338 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: favorite to win the US Open. I'm I'm hopeful that 339 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: it's a coming down eighteen and they're going toe to toe, 340 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: so I'm rooting for more of that. I brought up 341 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: examples where nobody really challenged Tiger, or if they did, 342 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: it was guys like rock O Mediate and you know, 343 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: Bob may So. That's the point. But thank you for 344 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: the phone call, and I congratulations to Joaque Neman. He's 345 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: a great player. I don't think anybody's denying that. But 346 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: when you went on the live tour, if a tree 347 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: falls in the forest, they were shorts, though, and they 348 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: play music, or maybe they don't do the music anymore, 349 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: they realize how stupid that is. Hey, look at us, 350 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: We're playing some music. Who's having fun? I mean, no, no, 351 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: we are. Who has more fun than us? 352 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 6: No money? 353 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Take a break, Paul fine Bomb of the mother Ship 354 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: coming up next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 355 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. 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That's Covino and Rich. 382 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: Big doings with college athletics. NCAA settlement opens the door 383 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: for schools to pay athletes directly. Paul Finebam, hosts of 384 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the Paul Fine Bomb Show, Voice of the SEC, joining 385 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: us on the program. All right, what does this mean 386 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: for the fan? Let me start out. Let's just say 387 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: college football fan, what is this going to mean now? 388 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: Five years down, ten years down the road? 389 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 13: Dan, It means very little really because this is all complicated, 390 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 13: a lot of legal mumbo jumbo. What I think if 391 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 13: it will really mean though, if you're a fan of 392 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 13: a group of five school, if you're a fan of 393 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 13: a school somewhere in the middle, get ready for hard times. 394 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 13: This is only going to help the richere. You heard 395 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 13: that before the big leagues, the Big ten, the SEC 396 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 13: will more than likely profit because they have so much money. 397 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 13: Women's sports, in my opinion, will be hurt. Olympic sports 398 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 13: will be crushed. Football wins Basketball, Other than maybe the 399 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 13: Big East takes a slight back seat. 400 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: What happens to the NCUBA. 401 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 13: The NCAA is essentially dead, and I know a lot 402 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 13: of people are celebrating, but the damage that has been 403 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 13: done by this organization is incalculable, and it's really about time. 404 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 13: What did we grow up thinking about when we thought 405 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 13: of the NCAA DAN the enforcement part of it, The 406 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 13: big bad NCUBA is coming to your town. They don't 407 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 13: even have any jurisdiction for that anymore, by the way, 408 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 13: not that they have in about the last five years. 409 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: They've been completely ineffective. 410 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 13: So if you're the NCAA president who happened to be 411 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 13: Charlie Baker, you get the fly around on a luxury plane, 412 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 13: you work in a taj mahal, you stay at five 413 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 13: star resorts, but essentially you have absolutely nothing to do 414 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 13: but try to look busy. 415 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Is Division one too big? 416 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: Yes? Right now? 417 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 13: In college sports. Piggybacking off of what I said in 418 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 13: the preamble, it's really about the top it's pyramid, and 419 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 13: the idea that a college basketball tournament, which used to 420 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 13: be one of the greatest moments on the calendar, has 421 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 13: now been reduced to a battle of the elite is 422 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 13: really unfortunate. But there's no way if you're a small 423 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 13: college basketball program like a Butler ten years ago or 424 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 13: some of these other programs that have just been so exciting. 425 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 13: Davidson making a run with Steph Curry. You really don't 426 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 13: have a chance. And I know that sounds deflating, but 427 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 13: and even if you are good, if you have a 428 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 13: junior or a sophomore, he's going to one of the 429 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 13: top teams for his final year, he's not sticking around. 430 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: A couple of things that came to mind is an il, 431 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: the transfer portal, signing contracts that might make it tougher 432 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: to transfer, Can schools buy out a player from his 433 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: and I I mean, I don't. It's the wild while West. 434 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: So these are all these questions that I had, So 435 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: pick one of those if you've got a juicy answer. 436 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, right now, the biggest issue in college 437 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 13: athletics is the portal. That's what coaches scream about because 438 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 13: they're constantly on the go having to re recruit their roster. 439 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 13: So I think that's really where the action is. I'm 440 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 13: not sure this agreement is going to affect that, and 441 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 13: I don't mean to be one of those guys that 442 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 13: says it's actually going to get worse in some regard, 443 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 13: but there are going to be more lawsuits, and I 444 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 13: think you're going to see Title nine lawsuits about where 445 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 13: does I mean, right after we've had the greatest explosion 446 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 13: of women's sports, especially in basketball, women's softball. 447 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: Now it's going to be curtailed. 448 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 13: What is really going on, and it's very much out 449 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 13: in the open, is the commissioners of college sports on 450 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 13: federal intervention. It's interesting Dan that yesterday up in New Jersey, 451 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 13: the athletic director and Notre Dame who used to be 452 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 13: in the PGA, so he knew the president very well 453 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 13: from his days there, and the commissioner of the Southeastern Conference, 454 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 13: Greg Zenki, played golf with Donald Trump with the idea 455 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 13: of trying to get him to do what Congress has 456 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 13: not done in four or five years. Despite a lot 457 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 13: of smoke. And I'm not a political analyst, this president 458 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 13: has quite a bully pulpit, and he does seem, at 459 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 13: least for the time being, to be very interested in 460 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 13: college athletics. And some of that is because he's a 461 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 13: sports fan. He's gone to a number of games, he 462 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 13: likes the arena, so he could help in the short term. 463 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 13: But from a legal standpoint, almost everything will be challenged 464 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 13: at some point. But the idea of Congress making, you know, 465 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 13: giving college athletics an anti trust exemption limiting college athletes. 466 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: In terms of what they can make. I think it 467 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: was still remains fairly slim. 468 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: Paul Fine Baumb of The Mothership, The Paul Fine Baumb Show, 469 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: The Voice of the SEC. Also, schools are going to 470 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: get twenty and a half million dollars to play with. 471 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: And where does that money come from. 472 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 13: It comes from the same place that it's always coming from, 473 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 13: donations boosters. I mean, that's all. I saw Kirby's mart 474 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 13: the other day. He was on his way to a fundraiser. 475 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 13: That's all they do. They recruit and fundraised. They don't 476 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 13: do a lot of coaching in the off season, and ultimately, 477 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 13: if you have fat cats. 478 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: And in some ways they. 479 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 13: Believe that this new agreement is going to cut the 480 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 13: billionaire booster like the one in Miami a couple of 481 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 13: years ago, the one that Texas take out. I don't 482 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 13: think so, Dan, You're never going to cut those guys out. 483 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 13: And the idea that they hired an ex Major League 484 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 13: Baseball official who was a former US attorney. He's going 485 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 13: to be in charge of enforcements. Please, that's not going 486 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 13: to happen every school. We will challenge anything that comes 487 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 13: down the pipe like like we've seen in recent years, 488 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 13: and there will be no enforcement whatsoever. 489 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: The transfer portal thing is I think what that's what 490 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: drives coaches crazy. And I mean you're poaching guys, you 491 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: know when they were playing in you know, the playoffs 492 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: college football playoffs. There were two players that I was 493 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: told they're negotiating to play someplace. Having that window we've 494 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: talked about, is there a way to make the transfer 495 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: portal the window smaller to be fair to those playing 496 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: in playoff games, to these coaches as well. 497 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 13: Yes, I mean there's two transfer portals right now. The 498 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 13: second one is not particularly important, that's that one just 499 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 13: ended a couple of weeks ago. But the one right 500 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 13: after the season is. And the problem is that it 501 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 13: where do you put it right now? It lands right 502 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 13: after the championship games, but before the bowl in playoff games. 503 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 13: And the story is pretty famous about the backup quarterback 504 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 13: at Penn State last year just he decided to leave 505 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 13: and you know they didn't need him, but ultimately it 506 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 13: could have been a disaster. So I don't think there's 507 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 13: anywhere to put that, because nowadays you don't want to 508 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 13: wait to right now to get your your seniors on 509 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 13: your campus. You will all the great programs get the 510 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 13: best players in December before that's in December of their 511 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 13: senior year, Dan, not not afterwards, And so the portal 512 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 13: has to be there, and I don't think they can 513 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 13: do much about it. 514 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: It just feels like we're eventually going to get to 515 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: fifty schools, right, that's where we're headed, right. 516 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 13: Right, And we're also going to get collective bargaining at 517 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 13: some point. I don't know why college administrators just don't 518 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 13: want to. It's that they're paying the players. But as 519 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 13: soon as I say this, and it's and we know 520 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 13: everything that has happened, you'll get You'll get an athletic 521 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 13: director on your show next week or a coach and 522 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 13: he'll use this phrase, Dan, you know the student athletes, 523 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 13: please don't face because that's the most laughable uh statement 524 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 13: and word, well, not the most laughable, but at least 525 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 13: in the college sports parlance right now. But they they're 526 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 13: stuck on it, and they just want to act like 527 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 13: this isn't really going on around them. It reminds me 528 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 13: of the piano player in the House of Bill reputed 529 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 13: as people are as businessmen are walking up and down 530 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 13: they're just playing the piano. 531 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: I think, like they're not seeing a thing. 532 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: I want to centralize college football office scheduling. 533 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: Good luck, can we? I mean, I like what you're going, 534 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: where you're going. 535 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: Dan. 536 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 13: The problem is that you have these four power four 537 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 13: commissioners and they are essentially like the bosses of the 538 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 13: of the of the New York families back in the day. 539 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 13: The Brooklyn's not giving into Staten Island and Manhattan's not 540 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 13: giving into Queens. They meet twice a year at the 541 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 13: best Italian restaurant in Little Italy, and that you hope 542 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 13: nobody gets killed. 543 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: But it's all about money, Paul, and there's more money 544 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: to be made. They love making their money. So at 545 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: some point in my lifetime, I think, we get to 546 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: fifty colleges and you are playing, and then there's everybody else. 547 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: I just think, and there's gonna be some schools that 548 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: might go, you know what, We're gonna drop football. It's 549 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: we don't want to spend money or you know, these 550 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: these these are strange, so maybe you do, you know, 551 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: drop divisions. 552 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 13: But the one thing I'll say, and I'm not a Pollyanna, 553 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 13: but you know, come September on a Saturday night when 554 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 13: we're watching Ohio State and Texas and arch Manning has 555 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 13: the ball on fourth and one with the goal on, 556 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 13: we won't care about any of these things. The games 557 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 13: are fantastic, just like everything that you're watching in hockey 558 00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 13: and basketball. 559 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: But the offseason is just brutal. 560 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 14: Yeah. 561 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: But when it's November eighth and it's Georgia versus Mercer, 562 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: then I have a problem with that, Paul. 563 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: I agree. 564 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 13: But nowadays, because the playoff remains as convoluted as ever, 565 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 13: we're going to get at least three of the two. 566 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 13: Every every program at least and is going to is 567 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 13: going to have at least two. 568 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: Of those games. I mean, look at some of the schedules. 569 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 13: Penn State has an embarrassing non conference schedule this year, 570 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 13: and they're one of the favorites to win the national championship. 571 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, Paul, as always, thanks for 572 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: joining us. 573 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. 574 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: That's Paul Finbaum, The Mothership, The Paul Feinbaum Show, Voice 575 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 1: of the SEC. He's right, I mean, that's what I 576 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: want to know for us the college fan. What's it mean? 577 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: Does it mean anything? 578 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 6: All? Right? 579 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: Maybe less transfer portal? I think that would be fair 580 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: to the game coaches. You know you're team as opposed 581 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: to the team you're joining. I'm all for the athletes 582 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: making money whatever you want to make great, but please, 583 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: you know we frame this as student athletes that came 584 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: up back in the seventies by Wald Buyers who ran 585 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: the nc DOUBLEA. It was brilliant. The student athlete, Oh, 586 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: the student athlete. It's the athletics student. Let's be honest here, 587 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: the athletics student. Okay, take a break, last call for 588 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: phone calls. What we learned, what's in store tomorrow? Right 589 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: after this, be sure to catch the live edition of 590 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six 591 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 592 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: One of the great shooters of all time, Ray Allen, 593 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: will join us on the program tomorrow, sneaking a couple 594 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: more phone calls this day in sports history. Also, I 595 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: do hear this a lot with the NCUBA, where all 596 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden they're going to limit scholarships, and hey, 597 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: some of these programs are going to go away, the 598 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: swimming team, or the volleyball team, or women's softball, whatever 599 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: it might be. If a school would really want to 600 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: keep those programs, they can't. How much money would it 601 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: cost to keep the women's volleyball team, How much would 602 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: it cost to add money to the women's basketball program? 603 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: How much? But we always use that as well, Hey, 604 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: you're going to have this, and that means these programs 605 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: go away. You're gonna have to do away with all 606 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: that if you really like, what do you do with 607 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: your endowment? Feels like you just you know, you're reinvesting, 608 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: or you're putting it into stocks, or you're building buildings 609 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: or you know, do you want your volleyball team or 610 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: women's softball team, your football team. Do you still want 611 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: it to be recognized? You can do it. The question 612 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: is do you want to spend that money because it 613 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: feels like all of these schools have an endowment that 614 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: if you wanted to do this, you could. I don't 615 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: want them, these schools. 616 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 6: To go out. 617 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to get rid of these programs. Don't 618 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: use that as an excuse. Yes, yeah, I mean I 619 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: get the purpose of an endowment. And you're sort of 620 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: ensuring the long term viability of the school right that 621 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: it's going to stay open and keep operating. In your 622 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: many many years in advance. But those are a lot 623 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: of times those are It's the endowment is really an investment. 624 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: It's in stocks and bonds and real estate and you know, 625 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, venture capital or private equity, all of 626 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: those things. It feels like you could peel a little 627 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: bit of money away from that and set up some 628 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: type of fund within the endowment to ensure that those 629 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: other Olympic sports stay active. Yeah, I would guess. Yeah, 630 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm hoping Stanford doesn't have I mean, I'd invest in that. 631 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: My Olympic sports there, track, team, swimming, whatever it might 632 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: be with Stanford. I mean that people, it's not your 633 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: football program, although Andrew Luck is there now, and maybe 634 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: they're going to reinvest in. 635 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 5: Ah, reinvest to devidends dedends. 636 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to get with get rid of swimming. 637 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: And I mean, how much money does it cost to 638 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: run a swimming program or lacrosse or whatever. Oh, I'm 639 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: get off my lawn mood today, This day in sports history, 640 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: Paul I. 641 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 5: Got a bunch for you, Dan, old school ones which 642 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 5: would be redundant because it's sports history. Nineteen fourteen, Honus 643 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 5: Wagner second player in MLB history to get three thousand hits. 644 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 5: Nineteen seventy three, Secretariat won the Belmont by thirty one 645 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 5: leans hikes. Those other short horses should be embarrassed to 646 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 5: show their faces. Nineteen eighty four, the Pittsburgh Penguins use 647 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 5: the first pick of the draft to select Mary Leo 648 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 5: Gott to call that when it worked out a little bit. 649 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 5: Eighty five, the Lakers won the NBA title, beating the Celtics. 650 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 5: Kareem had twenty nine in the final game. Monica sellis 651 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 5: second youngest youngest winner in French OPN history, beating stephie 652 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 5: Graff in nineteen ninety. Patrick wah two thousand and one, 653 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 5: three straight con Smyth trophies. 654 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: Patrick, I used to host this show, the NBA on ESPN, 655 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: and I bring this up because I watched the show 656 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: last night at halftime with the mother Ship. Three guys 657 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: talking at once is not good TV. Listen to your host, 658 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: let your host direct. But it's not good TV. It's 659 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: just not and it can be. But we have this 660 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: philosophy now of louder is better. I'm just gonna keep 661 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: yelling louder and then maybe you'll trail off and then 662 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: I'll take over you don't have that much time at 663 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: halftime because there's always a promo and commercial, so then 664 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: you get sixty seconds. Be strategic. Not everybody has to talk, 665 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: Not everybody has to have a hot take. How about 666 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: you just have something where you go, you got fifteen seconds, 667 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: you got fifteen, you got fifteen, make the best of it. 668 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: And this is any show that I've ever been on 669 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: as a host. My job was always to be John Stockton. 670 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: I wanted you to look good, sound good, but you 671 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: got to listen to me, and I think making sure 672 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: you have direction. But at one point you have three 673 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: people talking. It's just not good. 674 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 6: Not good. Yeah. 675 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 2: See, I've noticed a similar thing happened too with like 676 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: morning radio, and it drives me crazy because there are 677 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: sometimes that, like say a debate format works or like 678 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: high ended, like all of those things work, and then 679 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: there's other times a day that it really doesn't work 680 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: at all. And there are times that like I'll be 681 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: driving into work and I could just hear people already 682 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: like arguing with each other, and it's like, you know, 683 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: do you know how many people are going into work 684 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: that day, probably to a job that they don't like, 685 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 2: with coworkers that they don't really like and all they 686 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: want to do is just get through their commute without 687 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 2: having to listen to people argue. 688 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: And already it's bus is not a good sports town 689 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: or you kidding, But now you've really got me going. 690 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: Now you've really take me off. Bus is not a 691 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: good sports down really, and go dude, it's six forty 692 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: five in the morning. I haven't even had a cup 693 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 1: of coffee yet. Chill out, dude. Why are we yelling 694 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: at each other. Nobody wants to hear you. I mean, 695 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: you're telling me Phildelphia it's a better sports down than 696 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, just stop, bro. And I think 697 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: that we've got into this culture now where we have 698 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: to disagree, and you know, having been on the inside 699 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: at the Mothership, there would be times when I would 700 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: do Sports Center and you go, all right, who's going 701 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: to take that side? And then who's going to take 702 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: that side? And then you'd have somebody say, well, I 703 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: agree with that side, but I'll take the other side. 704 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 6: Just to argue. 705 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: I'll go okay, And we feel like that's you know, 706 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: Michael and Tony on part of the Interruption. They did it. 707 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: They created, you know, an art form to that. Now 708 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: they do argue sometimes, but you know, sometimes you can 709 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: create a blueprint. Oberman and myself created a blueprint for 710 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: sports Center. Okay, it was unique, unique to the time, 711 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean everybody should try to emulate that 712 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: part of the interruption. Not everybody should try to emulate that, 713 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: Or if you want to try to emulate it, then 714 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: try to do it the way they are instead of 715 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: yelling back and forth and scream because it just your 716 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: point never gets across the way you wanted to. You're 717 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: just trying to win by wearing somebody down. And I 718 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: know we're supposed to embrace debate, never did and I 719 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: never will, not in this form. And if that's debate. 720 00:37:53,760 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: Last night, at halftime of the NBA Finals, get a beer, 721 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: uh Nick and Irvine? Hey Nick, what's on your mind today? 722 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 6: Hey Dan? I got the best and the worst and 723 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 6: then one other thing. 724 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 15: So worst of the weekend definitely Dodgers run support. 725 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 6: Why do they have show? Hey leading off? 726 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 15: He's gonna have more home runs than the RBIs if 727 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 15: they don't. 728 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 6: Put him in a third or second. Best was the 729 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 6: Nation League Final yesterday. 730 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 15: That was a heck of a game from the very 731 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 15: beginning very entertaining, and I think it's a kind of 732 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 15: an aberration. 733 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 6: But I think both of those teams are so. 734 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 15: Good they would have beaten the champion League PSG the 735 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 15: champion league team. 736 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 6: Usually it's the other way. 737 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 15: Around, and you were talking about what's better watching the 738 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 15: game or app chopping it up afterwards watching the game, 739 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 15: especially like let's say Dodgers Yankees in the World Series 740 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 15: last year. If you're a Dodger fan or Yankee fan, 741 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 15: you're so invested it's painful. It's it's hard to enjoy 742 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 15: it in the moment. But you know when I see 743 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 15: a guy wearing a Yankee hat walking around like that, 744 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 15: walking around town, and I say, hey, how about them 745 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 15: Dodgers or Celtics fan, And I'm like, no childer today, 746 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 15: And you know, how about them Lakers? 747 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 6: Game seven? 748 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 14: That's so much better, so satisfying, well, only after you've won, 749 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 14: because when they win and then they say something to you, 750 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 14: then it's not as satisfying. 751 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: Jim in Michigan, Hi, Jim, what's on your mind today? 752 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 9: I made parallel of a comment you made earlier. This 753 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 9: is about Scotti Scheffler. I've kind of backed away for 754 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 9: golf but I would in years gone by, I would 755 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 9: devote a lot of time to watch TV, watch any 756 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 9: tournament on TV. But it's gotten to the point. I 757 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 9: was watching the memorial and if Scotty's up by three 758 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 9: or more, it's almost a yawn. I respect him as 759 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 9: a player, and it's family and all that, but it's 760 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 9: it's not that exciting, and it's frustrating when I could 761 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 9: just see they turn it off and go out and 762 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 9: cut the grass, versus watching watch him hold on to 763 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 9: a lead. 764 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 6: That's my comment. 765 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: No, I get it, I get it. There's no wow 766 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: factor there. Tiger had wow factor, Jack Nicholas had wow factor, 767 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, but there's very few that moved the needle, 768 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: you know. Rory's got wow factor, Deshambo's got wow factor, 769 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: Michelson had it because you're never quite sure what you 770 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: were going to see. I like Brooks Koepka. I mean, 771 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: he's not a dynamic personality and I don't know if 772 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 1: he'll win again, but you don't know once he got 773 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: five majors. Yeah, I mean, it's it's tough to have 774 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: that tune in factor because you're following that the guy 775 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: who gave us tune in factor on a golf course 776 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: in Tiger because you didn't want to miss it, because 777 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: you knew there was something. You know, A six iron 778 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: out of the bunker over the water at the RBC 779 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: many many, many many years ago. Yes, Mark the Scotty's 780 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: a great player, but not a star. He's like Sga. 781 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: He just damn he gets it done. He's efficient. What'd 782 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: you learn today, Todd? 783 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense for the Knicks to hire Jason 784 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 4: Kidd unless they can reunite him with Giannis and not 785 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 4: give up too much in return. 786 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: See no O'Connor. The NCAAA is essentially dead. Marvin Sga 787 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: and Lou Dort roommates Paul. 788 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 5: A lot of Jerry Curl talk. 789 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 1: What did I learn? 790 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 4: Tom The Rams paid their backup qub more last season 791 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 4: than the Raiders paid all their quarterbacks combined. 792 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: What We'll talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day.